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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

1295.0. "possible 120fs size airplanes" by CSC32::CSENCSITS () Mon Feb 25 1991 21:29

    Does anyone have a suggestion for an airplane in the 120 four stroke
    size?  What I'm looking for is a plane that will do all aerobatic
    maneuvers including knife-edge.  Size not really a problem.  Prefer
    not to be a bipe.
    
    Let me know your suggestions,
    
    John C-on the hunt again
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1295.2My 2 centsWMOIS::WEIERWings are just a place to hang AileronsTue Feb 26 1991 08:1010
    
       If the only hangup regarding a Biplane is the building, you may want
    to consider the Goldberg Ultimate Biplane. All the reports I have read
    have said it is quick to build, and he has a foolproof alignment system
    to mount the wings straight. With a 120FS, this plane is capable of all
    manuvers including knife edge loops. Best of all, the kit can be had
    for as little as $99. It would be a lot more work than the Diatol, but
    its also a lot cheaper.
    
                                                        Dan Weier
1295.4More info please!!!!CSC32::CSENCSITSTue Feb 26 1991 22:5413
    Thanks Dan and Dan,
    
    I would like more info on the Diaotel (sp).  Does it come in a less
    pre-built form?
    
    As for the Ultimate Bipe.  I heard allot of good things about the
    Ultimate.  I'm just not a big fan of bipes.  I've built two and still
    prefer low wing styles.
    
    Any other suggestions?  Is it me or is there just a limited supply of
    120 size designs?
    
    John 
1295.5DOES IT HAF'TA BE SCALE....??UPWARD::CASEYATHE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8) 551-5572Wed Feb 27 1991 09:2913
    John,
    
    Are you looking specifically to scale?  If not, there are a host of
    sport designs intended for .90-to-1.5 and larger engines.  Two that
    come to mind are the Super Sportster .90 and the large Bingo, both of
    which look like they'd be a lot of fun for general sport and aerobatic
    flying.
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1295.7Pattern ship?WMOIS::WEIERWings are just a place to hang AileronsWed Feb 27 1991 13:036
    
        Have you chacked out any Pattern ships? Most of the pattern ships I
    see call for a 120 FS. I have been looking at your problem from the
    other side of the coin. I have seen so many designs that call for a 120
    FS, that I am contemplating purchase of a 120 FS just to be able to
    take advantage of all the planes available for them.
1295.8SA1794::TENEROWICZTWed Feb 27 1991 14:3316
    There are a number of pattern designs designed for the 120 sized four
    stroker.  However I caution anyone contemplating purchasing a pattern
    kit to really understand what you're getting yourself into before you
    plank down a bundle of money.  Most kits and really semi-kits.  These
    are the basic kit containing a fiberglas fuse shell and a set of foam
    cores for the fings and for the horizontal stabs.  Instruction are
    usually a set (or one) print. Very limited data, wood sized and
    incidence data.  Everything else is assumed.  All this for the usual
    price of 150.00 - 240.00 US.  Not exactly your Goldberg Cub.
    
    
    Tom
    
    P.S. How about the Dragon Lady from Indy models? Or the framed cub
    from Indy? 
                                        
1295.9ZENDIA::REITHJim Reith DTN 226-6102 - LTN2-1/F02Wed Feb 27 1991 15:045
    Didn't Charlie Watt just get a Big HOTS recently. Maybe he can comment
    about that?
    
    It really depends on what you're planning on doing with it. Do you want
    a big sport plane or a big scale plane or a big competition plane?
1295.10Pattern or War birdsCSC32::CSENCSITSWed Feb 27 1991 18:568
    Basically I'm looking for one of two styles, either pattern or scale
    war planes.  I'd like to find a 120 size Corsair and P51.  I just had a
    Super Sportster120.  Nice looking plane, not a very impressive flyer.
    
    If pattern ships weren't so expensive, I'd go with them before the war
    birds.
    
    John
1295.11I like My SS90/120LEDS::WATTThu Feb 28 1991 14:339
    I'm very happy with the way my Super Sportster 90/120 flies.  It does
    not have the fuse area to knife edge well though.  The Ultra Hots I
    just bought is too much plane for a 120 if you want spectacular
    performance.  Modeltech makes a couple of low wing sport planes that
    are in the size range for a 120.  The Draggon Lady flies very much like
    the Super Sportster.
    
    Charlie
    
1295.12SOMETHING BETWEEN .60 AND ULTRA.....???UPWARD::CASEYATHE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8) 551-5572Thu Feb 28 1991 16:059
    Charlie,
    
    Don't they make a next-size-down Hots for .90 engines?
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    |_|_|        (O>o		|\)____/___|\_____|_/	   Adios amigos, Al
      |     \__(O_\_	        |	  |___/	 o	   (The Desert Rat)
1295.13How does it compare to?CSC32::CSENCSITSMon Mar 04 1991 20:186
    Charlie,
    
    Would you compare the SuperSportster to say a very responsive Super
    Chipmunk?  How would you compare it to a Sunbird 120?
    
    John
1295.14I can't Compare ThemLEDS::WATTWed Mar 06 1991 10:1013
    John,
    	I've never flown a Chipmunk or Sunbird so I can't compare them. 
    From what I've seen of the Chipmunk, I'd guess that the Sportster is a
    little easier to fly.
    
    	Al,
    I think that they make a bigger hots that is 91 inch span.  The one I
    got is 81 inches.  I know they have a 60 size one but I've never seen
    one in the 90/120 size range.  That don't imply that there ain't one
    though.  The Hots is not that popular at the fields I fly at
    
    Charlie
    
1295.15Big Hots --- isn't it too big for the 120fs?BRAT::RYDERperpetually the bewildered beginnerThu Mar 07 1991 00:3917
re .-1 by Charlie Watt
    
>>  I think that they make a bigger hots that is 91 inch span.  
    
    Page 39 of the April R/C Report --- new product section.
    
    Big Hots.  All balsa.  Wingspan 91", area 1900 sq.in., length 77", 
    weight 14 to 35 lbs, 4 channel, engines 1.8 c.i. and up, $300
    
    Re-engineered from the original.
    
    Dan Santich Models
    Rt 2  Box 293
    Pinnacle, NC   919-368-4414