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Conference vmsnet::car$note:carbuffs

Title:Carbuffs
Moderator:DASXPS::NASEAM::READIO
Created:Tue Dec 13 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:632
Total number of notes:88145

302.0. "Speedometers/odometers" by MILKWY::MORRISON (Bob M. LMO2/P41 296-5357) Tue Oct 10 1989 18:45

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302.1or, for more $$, use I-90.TEKVAX::KOPECI'm not.Wed Oct 11 1989 08:518
302.2Other Official Measure DistancesRAB::SUNGA waste is a terrible thing to mindWed Oct 11 1989 11:169
302.3One thousand revolutions per mileABACUS::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Oct 11 1989 11:3533
302.4a dealer can do it for youSPGBAS::STUDIVANThu Oct 12 1989 13:488
302.5you sure ALL?...MYVAX2::ALDRICHFri Oct 13 1989 11:536
302.6Just relaying what I was told by the inventorABACUS::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Oct 13 1989 12:0611
302.7Odometer error == Speedometer error?A12::GOEKEIf I only had a brain ...Mon Jan 22 1990 00:579
302.8NoACTION::AUGENSTEINMon Jan 22 1990 08:510
302.9No, but sometimes it's yesMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Jan 22 1990 09:2724
302.10Inaccurate speedometersNETMAN::SEGERthis space intentionally left blankWed Sep 12 1990 17:3118
302.11KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Wed Sep 12 1990 17:407
302.12I would think so alsoCNTROL::STECKOIt looks good on you.Wed Sep 12 1990 17:479
302.13COMET::RUTHERThu Sep 13 1990 00:3212
302.14update...NETWMN::SEGERthis space intentionally left blankMon Sep 17 1990 11:1329
302.15MILKWY::SLABOUNTYHemorrhoid from HellMon Sep 17 1990 14:2612
302.16who can do a calibration?NETMAN::SEGERthis space intentionally left blankMon Sep 17 1990 16:026
302.17MILKWY::SLABOUNTYHemorrhoid from HellMon Sep 17 1990 17:058
302.18VIRGO::CRUTCHFIELDWhere Angels fear to tread...Tue Sep 18 1990 13:0517
302.19The other way 'round.ACTION::AUGENSTEINTue Sep 18 1990 13:404
302.20taxi's must be �1%JUPITR::FERRAROThu Sep 20 1990 16:2310
302.21Speedo acting up...ARCHER::PRESTONPee Wee's role modelTue Nov 27 1990 11:5216
302.22MILKWY::SLABOUNTYHeather Locklear's love slave.Tue Nov 27 1990 12:159
302.23double check itASDS::COHENNothing is EVER easy...Wed Dec 19 1990 13:348
302.24Accurate Speedometer ServiceBAYES::DCRAMMWed May 15 1991 14:006
302.25more on Accurate...BAYES::DCRAMMThu May 16 1991 10:5713
302.26maybe I'll let the car stay youngGOLONG::JUITTEt tu, Pal?Wed Jul 31 1991 11:548
302.27Digital speedo problemELWOOD::MONDOUFri Aug 02 1991 11:0311
302.28Gets covered on the back of the titleMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Aug 06 1991 10:576
302.29MILKWY::SLABOUNTYExit light ... enter night.Tue Sep 03 1991 09:447
302.30repair a speedometer/odometerXAXXON::BUTTONbe EXCELLENT to each other....Mon Mar 30 1992 18:169
302.31JPLAIN::FRITZTue Apr 14 1992 12:486
302.32OASS::BURDEN_D'24 Stude - The only way to TourTue Apr 14 1992 13:203
302.33kilometers x .625 approximatelyMSDOA::BEAZLEYTue Apr 14 1992 14:407
302.34TOOK::M_SAWYERMark Sawyer by Tom TwainWed Apr 15 1992 11:5912
302.35Kms vs. MilesBTOVT::MCDONOUGH_FPleasant under glassWed Apr 15 1992 13:0115
302.36Low reading on Speedometer on CaravanAIAG::ADLERMark R. Adler - Digital Services Research GroupTue Dec 01 1992 10:1819
302.37NOVA::FISHERRdb/VMS DinosaurTue Dec 01 1992 16:153
302.38The only Plus in a 2.2l VoyagerSNKERZ::SOTTILEGet on Your Bikes and RideWed Dec 02 1992 07:185
302.39NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Dec 02 1992 08:006
302.40I think the Voyager's speedo is badNOVA::FISHERRdb/VMS DinosaurThu Dec 03 1992 04:3914
302.41Help needed with Speedometer questionPARITY::ESULLIVANFri Mar 12 1993 07:386
302.42Probably broken cableLEDS::LEWICKEIf it ain't broke, don't buy it.Fri Mar 12 1993 07:4211
302.43who died?RPSTRY::CDDREP::LEGERLOTZAlan Legerlotz: Repository EngineeringFri Mar 12 1993 08:207
302.44Nissan SE V6AIMHI::DECARTERETThu Apr 29 1993 23:4110
302.451986 Buick Skylark digital quitsRICKS::PHIPPSBetter plant some more treesTue Jun 28 1994 12:2423
302.46Ain't electronics great???NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Jun 28 1994 13:1112
302.47Where did I put that set of spin-tights?RICKS::PHIPPSBetter plant some more treesTue Jun 28 1994 22:1142
302.48Probably cableLEDS::LEWICKEhe is my painWed Jun 29 1994 10:0713
302.49Now which one of these...RICKS::PHIPPSBetter plant some more treesWed Jun 29 1994 11:3016
302.50Pickup is on the transNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Jun 29 1994 12:5915
302.51AgreedRICKS::PHIPPSBetter plant some more treesWed Jun 29 1994 22:401
302.52...and that's the cheaper area, tooNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Jul 01 1994 09:293
302.53Digital Ratio Adapter Controller (DRAC) jumper settings?NACAD2::GAUDETThu Jul 07 1994 11:2531
302.54Trial and errorLEDS::LEWICKEFOR CONGRESS!!! (again)Thu Jul 07 1994 11:305
302.55Are the circuit schematics generally available (even for a price)?NACAD2::GAUDETThu Jul 07 1994 12:4317
302.56maybe get the one that's already set up...PROXY::ALLENWhen all is said and done, there's nothing left to say or do.Thu Jul 07 1994 12:563
302.57That's plan BNACAD2::GAUDETThu Jul 07 1994 14:076
302.58Think of the pluses to this set up!MIMS::STEFFENSEN_KOwner of the Barge - '73 Buick CenturionThu Jul 07 1994 14:388
302.59maybe they don't tell you because....BABAGI::VIDIOT::PATENAUDEPinball, PC's an more...Thu Jul 07 1994 18:235
302.60Progress report ... I'm getting closeLEVERS::GAUDETMon Jul 11 1994 13:3956
302.61I bet it's binaryLEDS::LEWICKEFOR CONGRESS!!! (again)Mon Jul 11 1994 13:5810
302.62ribbon cable available at You Do It, Radio Shack, etcPONDA::64423::BELKINwhen they come to take you downMon Jul 11 1994 16:555
302.63No tires on boats!KAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Mon Jul 11 1994 17:1813
302.64Problem solvedRICKS::PHIPPSBetter plant some more treesTue Jul 12 1994 12:352
302.65Living with a 1.7 mph delta for nowLEVERS::GAUDETWed Jul 13 1994 13:2915
302.66Common gearsUSHS01::HARDMANMassive Action = Massive ResultsWed Jul 13 1994 13:469
302.67Does the library keep old copies of the 4WD mags?NACAD2::GAUDETThu Jul 14 1994 16:2811
302.68RE: 265.67OASS::HEARSE::Burden_dKeep Cool with CoolidgeThu Jul 14 1994 17:257
302.69If you've got 20 minutes to check, that'll be GREAT!KALI::GAUDETSat Jul 16 1994 09:5544
302.70Back to knowing how fast I'm really goingNACAD2::GAUDETTue Aug 23 1994 13:2320
302.71Easy if you know how.RICKS::PHIPPSDTN 225.4959Tue Nov 22 1994 07:0915
302.73WLDBIL::KILGOREMissed Woodstock -- *twice*!Thu Jan 26 1995 11:1213
302.74BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Thu Jan 26 1995 11:179
302.75BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Thu Jan 26 1995 11:1911
302.78WLDBIL::KILGOREMissed Woodstock -- *twice*!Thu Jan 26 1995 12:386
302.79BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeThu Jan 26 1995 13:444
302.83Another bad appleSALEM::GIONETFri Sep 29 1995 09:379
302.84isn't that a big no no!SALEM::SHAWFri Sep 29 1995 10:086
302.85AG OfficeUSDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaFri Sep 29 1995 11:232
302.86Dealer didn't necessarily do it, it's usually before auctionTIEFLY::ANDERSENFri Sep 29 1995 11:316
302.87Trade inSALEM::GIONETFri Sep 29 1995 11:415
302.88Any other cars on the lot you like ;-)SALEM::SHAWFri Sep 29 1995 12:119
302.89BUSY::SLABOUNTYA swift kick in the butt - $1Fri Sep 29 1995 12:343
302.90It ain't blackmailVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyFri Sep 29 1995 17:1810
302.91BUSY::SLABOUNTYA swift kick in the butt - $1Fri Sep 29 1995 17:3317
302.92No not blakmail but get what you paid forSALEM::SHAWMon Oct 02 1995 07:3714
302.93take this as a friendly warning/adviseNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Oct 02 1995 11:2815
302.94updateSALEM::GIONETMon Oct 02 1995 12:3411
302.95Odometer tampering?SALEM::GIONETMon Oct 02 1995 12:388
302.96Dealer Can Pin It on Previous OwnerPOWDML::SELIGMon Oct 02 1995 12:4618
302.97have to remove to check most timesNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Oct 02 1995 12:5914
302.98Not surprised at all...KAHALA::SUTERand now for something you'll really like!Mon Oct 02 1995 13:2629
302.99short term memory lapse...BABAGI::VIDIOT::PATENAUDEPinball, PC's, Storage an more...Mon Oct 02 1995 15:2810
302.100BUSY::SLABOUNTYA swift kick in the butt - $1Mon Oct 02 1995 16:207
302.101AIMTEC::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatMon Oct 02 1995 17:157
302.102Triple Damages if Guilty?POWDML::SELIGTue Oct 03 1995 08:275
302.1031990 Dodge Shadow SpeedometerMSE1::OBRINGERWed Mar 20 1996 08:1211
302.104BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Mar 20 1996 08:328
302.105No-odometer doesn't workMSE1::OBRINGERWed Mar 20 1996 09:241
302.106parts guys are real helpfulANGST::BURTONJim Burton, DTN 381-0272Wed Mar 20 1996 09:356
302.107Look in the chrysler note...30607::DELMONICOJim --<Philippians 4:4-7>--Wed Mar 20 1996 11:1213
302.108switch the key of and on and watch the check-engine lightNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Mar 20 1996 14:108
302.109RE: .103 Speed sensor badMSE1::OBRINGERMon Mar 25 1996 08:096
302.110Balky/dead odometer?STAR::CHALMERSMon Oct 14 1996 14:3221
302.111cable loose?CPEEDY::BRADLEYChuck BradleyMon Oct 14 1996 18:329
302.112CSC32::KINGMon Oct 14 1996 18:5110
302.113"Electronic" Speed DetectionMKOTS3::VICKERSTue Oct 15 1996 10:498
302.114check the trip meter reset buttonNETCAD::ROLKEWhat "Year 199: problem" ?Tue Oct 29 1996 16:256
302.115Mine tooRG500::MOSSWounded, Old and Treacherous...Wed Oct 30 1996 16:382
302.116CSC32::J_KALINOWSKIForget NAM?....NEVER!Wed Oct 30 1996 16:547
302.117It's working again, but why?STAR::CHALMERSWed Nov 06 1996 12:3116
302.118APACHE::KEITHDr. DeuceWed Nov 06 1996 12:346
302.119Too dammned complex!MKOTS3::VICKERSThu Nov 07 1996 05:178
302.120Noisy jumpy speedometerMILKWY::UTTLEYIt's what? Too Loud? Aw c'mon!Mon Dec 23 1996 15:0312
302.121CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Dec 24 1996 09:328
302.122BUSY::SLABFUBARTue Dec 24 1996 11:537
302.123gearsMILKWY::UTTLEYIt's what? Too Loud? Aw c'mon!Thu Dec 26 1996 07:368
302.124Don't use WD-40 on a speedo cableCSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Dec 26 1996 11:3646
302.125Disassembly of an AC speedoMILKWY::UTTLEYIt won't mean a thing in 100 yearsWed Mar 12 1997 11:2512
    Has anyone actually taken an old AC Speedometer apart?  I have gotten
    quotes of $100.+ to rebuild mine.  Sounds like a lot.  I was surprised
    when I removed it from the dash what a simple little thing it is.  I
    believe the only problem is the 30 year old grease has turned to dust. 
    The bushing on the input does not feel sloppy or anything, so I'm
    figuring if I just take it apart, clean it, and relube it, all should
    be fine.  The problem is, the needle has to come out to remove the face
    to get at the screws in the head, but there is no apparent way to
    remove the needle!  There has got to be some little trick to this that
    I'm missing.  Does anyone know what that might be?
    
    Dave
302.126BUSY::SLABCandy'O, I need you ...Wed Mar 12 1997 13:096
    
    	I seem to recall reading the procedure in a magazine recently.
    
    	Darn, what was the name of it?  If I remember I'll let you know
    	and you can pick up a copy.
    
302.127Success!MILKWY::UTTLEYIt won't mean a thing in 100 yearsThu Mar 13 1997 11:0611
    I found the trick.  The needle is fastened (permanantly) to a little
    sleeve, which is then press fit onto the shaft.  It comes apart with a
    little careful work.  I got the whole unit apart.  I never realized
    what a simple device a speedometer is.  The problem was just as I
    thought, the lube was all dried out.  I cleaned everything in alcohol
    then put it back together with some molybdenum disulfide grease, and it
    looks great.  I bench tested it using an electric drill to spin it.  It
    is now nice and quiet, and the needle moves smoothly like it should.  
    Looks like I just saved myself $100.00.
    
    Dave
302.128LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionThu Mar 13 1997 11:326
    The real test will be to see if it is still calibrated....
    
    Make sure you test it before you hit the next speed trap.
    
    Chris
    
302.129PEAKS::OAKEYThu Mar 13 1997 12:048
Re: <<< Note 302.128 by LEFTY::CWILLIAMS "CD or not CD, that's the question" >>>

>>    The real test will be to see if it is still calibrated....

The easiest way to do this is with a GPS (Global Positioning System) that shows
speed; it will show your speed accurately within a couple of miles per hour...

                             Roger
302.130Another way, but not the cheapest ;-)..NETCAD::NPAREThu Mar 13 1997 12:3218
>>                      <<< Note 302.129 by PEAKS::OAKEY >>>

>>Re: <<< Note 302.128 by LEFTY::CWILLIAMS "CD or not CD, that's the question" >>>

>> >>    The real test will be to see if it is still calibrated....

>>The easiest way to do this is with a GPS (Global Positioning System) that
>>shows speed; it will show your speed accurately within a couple of miles
>>per hour...

>>                             Roger

	Or even simpler, zip by an officer and his trusty radar. He will
 write down your speed on a little piece of paper so you do not forget. ;-) ;-)

	Norm

 
302.131Easy cal checkMILKWY::UTTLEYIt won&#039;t mean a thing in 100 yearsThu Mar 13 1997 12:499
    Actually, I still need a speedometer drive.  The one that is in the car
    now is the wrong one for the gears in the rear end.  I figured after I
    change the drive, I can do a quick calibration check by comparing the
    speedo and the tach.  I calculated that the engine should be turning
    3341 RPM at 65 MPH.  If the two guages are close to being in
    calibration, I should know right away by whether or not these numbers
    match up.
    
    Dave
302.132better send it out for calibrationCSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith &amp; Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Apr 07 1997 16:3610
A speedometer is calibrated by degaussing the assembly then re-magnetizing 
the pole piece to a specific strength.

The air gap and return spring tension are checked/adjusted and the assembly 
is bench tested.

1000 rpm should indicate 60 mph, 500 rpm = 30 mph, etc.