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Conference pasta::flex

Title:Bodybuilding and Weight Training
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Moderator:PASTA::PIERCE
Created:Tue Jul 14 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1336
Total number of notes:22127

193.0. "Routines: Questions" by WAV12::WATERS (Possibly the true MASTER BLASTER?) Wed May 11 1988 23:45

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193.1Looks Good to MeAIMHI::RAUHThu May 12 1988 13:4611
193.2WAV12::WATERSPossibly the true MASTER BLASTER?Thu May 12 1988 20:0417
193.3WAV12::WATERSPossibly the true MASTER BLASTER?Thu May 12 1988 20:073
193.4More IronmanAIMHI::RAUHFri May 13 1988 11:4117
193.5Believe half of what you read.TSECAD::HEALYLife is Perfectly Fair.Fri May 13 1988 12:4714
193.6AIMHI::RAUHFri May 13 1988 13:0510
193.7Yes...No...MaybeWBC::MOORENO Joe Weiders!!!Fri May 13 1988 14:2543
193.8AIMHI::RAUHFri May 13 1988 14:5910
193.9LET ME EXPLAIN!WAV14::WATERSPossibly the true MASTER BLASTER?Fri May 13 1988 21:3937
193.10More StuffAIMHI::RAUHMon May 16 1988 10:5125
193.11more thoughtsRUTLND::BURTMon May 16 1988 13:3139
193.12BGSBNY::STJOHNHYEND::SSTJOHNMon May 16 1988 15:3514
193.13More StuffAIMHI::RAUHMon May 16 1988 18:0110
193.14Light headed, heh?RUTLND::BURTTue May 17 1988 08:087
193.15Wants to hear what he wants to hear.TSECAD::HEALYLife is Perfectly Fair.Tue May 17 1988 11:218
193.16LIGHTEN UPWAV14::WATERSPossibly the true MASTER BLASTER?Tue May 17 1988 23:4516
193.17I'd like to know the routineBRAT::SMITHNever say never, I always say.Wed May 18 1988 18:5912
193.18LEG PROGRAMWAV12::WATERSPossibly the true MASTER BLASTER?Wed May 18 1988 21:4828
193.19Regarding the Leg ProgramWHYVAX::AITELEvery little breeze....Thu May 19 1988 10:155
193.20WAV12::WATERSPossibly the true MASTER BLASTER?Thu May 19 1988 20:153
193.21Training / Wheels ?!SNOC01::LINCOLNNo Pain, No Gain...Thu May 19 1988 22:4910
193.22aerobic activity that won't break down legsLDP::CARTERRoger M CarterFri May 20 1988 14:1520
193.23Mashers and Spinners on bikesBRAT::SMITHNever say never, I always say.Fri May 20 1988 20:1119
193.24mash sizeSALEM::HEATHFri May 20 1988 22:3312
193.25bike thoughtsRUTLND::BURTMon May 23 1988 08:1119
193.26Mash it!AIMHI::RAUHThu Jun 09 1988 09:485
193.27Since we're talking about leg training...GLDOA::PENFROYPaul from M!ch!ganTue Jun 21 1988 15:3412
193.28GLDOA::PENFROYPaul from M!ch!ganWed Aug 31 1988 08:5522
193.29Best home for this questionTARGON::DRUEKETue Mar 20 1990 12:5023
193.30ExperimentTAUGHT::PATDI made it myselfTue Mar 20 1990 17:0615
193.31Stress Good Form!LDYBUG::OSSMANLive in day-tight compartmentsWed Mar 21 1990 09:468
193.32...and confused is UNDERstating it GREATLY...ISTG::KLEINBERGERWill 8/4 *ever* get here?Sun Jun 10 1990 20:5844
193.33i hope this helps AIMHI::GANCARZMon Jun 11 1990 10:1638
193.34NOBOZO::PELLERINImage Systems Eng. MK02/2K3Mon Jun 11 1990 10:5732
193.35service with a smile!LEZAH::BOBBITTfantasiaMon Jun 11 1990 11:128
193.36VLNVAX::ALECLAIREMon Jun 11 1990 11:5615
193.37A Little ThoughtVLNVAX::TCLOWARDWed Jun 20 1990 10:5515
193.38GYMRAT::OUELLETTEWed Jun 20 1990 11:554
193.39DELNI::OTAMon Jun 02 1997 12:3012
    As usual using the treadmill, I was reading an article in M&F by
    Metzner talking about speed and weight being better muscle growers
    than heavy weight lifted tradtionally.  There was some formula and
    stuff in the article but basically the example they used was a person
    doing pyramid benching 10 sets 6-10 reps increasing weights between
    sets done in 10 minutes is far better than doing 3 kinds of benches, 4
    sets with 6-10 reps pyramiding done over say 20 minutes.  The theory
    was intesity and muscular stress occurs better in shorter duration
    focused lifts verses the tradional lifting routines.  Anyone else read
    this and has anyone tried this?
    
    Brian
193.40Interesting, any more?HOTLNE::CORMIERMon Jun 02 1997 12:364
    10 sets in 10 minutes?  Can you try to elaborate a little? Did he start
    very low and pyramid up quickly?  Any concern about sloppy form when 
    lifting at that speed?  Is it effective for all muscle groups?
    Sarah
193.41DELNI::OTAMon Jun 02 1997 14:378
    Sarah
    
    I have to admit, I read the article rather quickly and really didn't
    pay detailed attention to it, which is why I asked if anyone else had
    more info. If I can find that mag tomorrow, I'll try and read it again. 
    It was something that fast though.  
    
    Brian
193.42exitHOTLNE::CORMIERMon Jun 02 1997 17:139
    Thanks for re-checking for me, Bri.  I confess to being totally amazed
    at some people in the gym who do their reps at a furious pace. I always
    wonder what, exactly, they are getting out of it, since momentum seems
    to play a big part in the lifts.  I'm having trouble figuring out how
    to lift that fast without using momentum to 'cheat'.  Hmmm, maybe if
    they use momentum, they can go a bit heavier and still get the same
    benefit?  And then you can add in some aerobic benefit if you are
    REALLY fast with the change-ups.  Hmmm, ponder, ponder, ponder...
    Sarah
193.43exDELNI::OTAMon Jun 02 1997 17:5516
    Sarah
    
    I know that in some excercises that I intermingle, speed and number is
    the key.  For instance Stripping.  Thats benching starting with more
    weight than you ever lifted and pumping 1-2 then without rest having a
    partner strip off 5 lbs a side then do as many as you can pause strip
    off 5 more etc etc.  You keep going till the bar hits your chest and
    you can't go anymore.  Then there are 21's for biceps, I have also been
    known to start at the beginning of the dumbbell rack and work my way up
    without pause.  These though are random lifts that I intersperce very
    infrequently when I need to shock myself into more intensity.  But to
    use such intensity on a weekly or even monthly basis would be too much. 
    I agree with you, under these circumstances one can easily cheat and
    allow the momentum to get you up for a bunch.
    
    Brian
193.44ASGMKA::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaWed Jun 04 1997 10:115
    I have read Mikies stuff. Its good. You have to be heavy to begin with.
    I think allot of his stuff is for super setting, or for those who are
    Weeeeder fans, huge and humgous setting.:)