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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

1525.0. "Low speed idle" by SALEM::DEAN () Wed May 26 1993 16:03

    Can anyone provide an explanation of how the low end idle works on 2
    stroke engines. Like what should it run at, how to adjust, what happens
    if its not adjusted right. What is a good low speed idle? etc. etc.
    
    Thx
    Dennis
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1525.1Try thisWMOIS::WEIERWings are just a place to hang AileronsWed May 26 1993 16:3443
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
      I'll give it a shot: 
    
    
      1. Set your high end needle valve.
    
      2. Adjust the low end needle valve ( if needed ). 
       
            -  Only make adjustments a 1/4 turn at a time. Remember where
               you started form, in case you need to go back!
    
            -  Richen by turning the screw out counterclockise, lean it by
               turning it in clockwise (exception: an airbleed carb, then
               it is just the opposite. You can identify if you have an
               airbleed carb by checking for a tiny hole in the front of
               the carb. If there is a hole, it is an airbleed. Ex: an O.S.
               40 FP IS an airbleed carb. )
    
        
       Regarding how fast the engine should idle at, I can't remember an
    exact RPM, but usually its the lowest speed the engine will run
    reliably at, and throttle up without quitting ( once the low end is
    set ). Higher nitro fuel will also smooth out the idle a bit.
    
       Symtoms:
    
          Once the high end needle is set, bring the engine to idle, and
      then throttle up fairly briskly. If the engine quits while throttling
      up, generally, the low end mixture is too Lean. If it stumbles, but
      doesn't quit, it is generally too rich.
            
    
                                                         Good luck,
1525.2FWIW.CSTEAM::HENDERSONCompetition is Fun: Dtn 297-6180, MRO4Wed May 26 1993 18:027
    3000 rpm is an acceptable idle, (tick-over - for the Brits..).
    
    Most carbs are affected by the bottom end adjustment so if you change
    the low end ALWAYS retest and set the top end last.
    
    
    E.
1525.3Fuel flow?SALEM::DEANThu May 27 1993 09:133
    Can the low end idle affect the ability of the engine to siphon fuel
    from the tank?
    
1525.4NOLEDS::WATTThu May 27 1993 09:222
    No
    
1525.5What about...GAUSS::REITHJim 3D::Reith MLO1-2/c37 223-2021Thu May 27 1993 09:323
But (not that I qualify to correct Charlie) it can reduce the pressure 
in the tank due to the drop in frequency of the pulses from the muffler.
That would affect fuel feed (albiet not exactly suction)
1525.6Questions within questions!.CSTEAM::HENDERSONCompetition is Fun: Dtn 297-6180, MRO4Thu May 27 1993 09:508
    If the carb is not holding the fuel in the line it is the carb design.
    (I have often seen this in Magnum and ASP's).
    
    It will not draw fuel if the throttle is closed. Usually you open up
    1/8 to get fuel through the line.
    
    E.
     
1525.7Talk about an openingSNAX::SMITHI FEEL THE NEEDThu May 27 1993 09:515
    BOY could I do something with Jim's note...........
    
    But, I'd give Eric palpatations so I'll be good. 8^)
    
    
1525.88^)GAUSS::REITHJim 3D::Reith MLO1-2/c37 223-2021Thu May 27 1993 09:571
Such restraint for a thursday. I'm impressed
1525.9ANGLIN::BEATTYThu May 27 1993 11:3922
    The method described in .1 will work just fine.  I would add a couple
    of points.
    
    You are looking for good low end to full throttle response.  I have
    always used this as a que that I am getting close to the desired idle
    setting.  It is important that you readjust the high end needle valve
    setting every time you adjust the idle setting.
    
    I would strongly recommend that you stop the motor between adjustments
    of the idle setting.  I have seen people adjust the idle setting with
    the motor running.  Risky.  
    
    I would also recommend waiting until the motor is fairly well broken in
    before you try to get too precise on the settings.  They will change
    slightly as the motor breaks in.
    
    When you have it set correctly it should, once warmed up, rev from idle
    to full throttle as quickly as you can move the throttle arm.
    
    Will
    
    
1525.10Give it Time to Respond to ChangesLEDS::WATTThu May 27 1993 12:5010
    Another key point is to give the engine plenty of time to adjust to a
    change in setting.  Go to full throttle, adjust the needle, then go to
    idle.  Let it idle at least 30 seconds then throttle up smoothly and
    quickly.  If it keeps slowing down at idle, the idle mixture is still
    too rich.  If it dies when you throttle up, the idle mixture is too
    lean.  When it's right, you should get very quick throttle response and
    a consistent idle that will hold for at least a minute.
    
    Charlie