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Conference krakar::f1

Title:F1
Notice:All about F1
Moderator:WOTVAX::GILLILANDP
Created:Wed Dec 14 1994
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:159
Total number of notes:8085

41.0. "FERRARI" by EVTSG8::STURT (Totally wired) Thu Apr 13 1995 16:51

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41.1RDGE44::ALEUC8Thu Apr 13 1995 17:013
41.2!WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Thu Apr 13 1995 17:053
41.3MKTING::WILSONThu Apr 13 1995 17:0711
41.4PLAYER::BROWNLAn Internaut in CyberSpaceThu Apr 13 1995 17:345
41.5LARVAE::LINCOLN_JThu Apr 13 1995 18:0316
41.6VANGA::KERRELLDECUS - Coventry May 15-18 1995Thu Apr 13 1995 18:195
41.7LARVAE::WILLIAMS_KThu Apr 13 1995 18:269
41.8KAOFS::M_NAKAGAWAFri Apr 14 1995 00:246
41.9MKTING::WILSONFri Apr 14 1995 12:2210
41.10Go Alesi, Go!CVG::WASILAKFri Apr 14 1995 19:5812
41.11Beautiful ODIXIE::CERASOTue Apr 18 1995 01:4617
41.12TOTALLY TIFFOSICHEFS::MOLINARI_MPASTA TWISTA RACING 70 DUSTERTue Apr 18 1995 09:5213
41.13VANGA::KERRELLDECUS - Coventry May 15-18 1995Tue Apr 18 1995 11:235
41.14LARVAE::WILLIAMS_KTue Apr 18 1995 11:551
41.15Coca ColaRDGENG::BURGESSShe loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah.Tue Apr 18 1995 13:0315
41.16ESBS01::HAYCOXDNA Fingerprint: caggtacgtaggatcagtcaccagttatchacthaTue Apr 18 1995 14:388
41.17LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Tue Apr 18 1995 15:429
41.18One whinge...IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttTue Apr 18 1995 18:126
41.19GEMGRP::gemnt3.zko.dec.com::winalskiPLIT happens...Tue Apr 18 1995 22:1914
41.20VANGA::KERRELLDECUS - Coventry May 15-18 1995Wed Apr 19 1995 08:575
41.21LARVAE::LINCOLN_JWed Apr 19 1995 10:127
41.22No engine development just a change in builder.MKTING::WILSONWed Apr 19 1995 12:0013
41.23DIYEVTSG8::63100::STURTTotally wiredWed Apr 19 1995 12:383
41.24MKTING::WILSONWed Apr 19 1995 13:5210
41.25component manufacturerSALES::DSKARZENSKIWed Apr 19 1995 14:015
41.26MKTING::WILSONWed Apr 19 1995 14:3812
41.27LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Wed Apr 19 1995 15:038
41.28MKTING::WILSONThu Apr 20 1995 14:425
41.29Non-red Ferrari??POLAR::THIMOTThu Apr 20 1995 15:427
41.30Lots of different colors but mostly red.OTOOA::LAVIGNEThu Apr 20 1995 16:0413
41.31A TRIVIA entry in the Ferrari note.MKTING::WILSONThu Apr 20 1995 16:1917
41.32MKTING::WILSONThu Apr 20 1995 16:307
41.33LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Thu Apr 20 1995 19:134
41.34MKTING::WILSONFri Apr 21 1995 09:173
41.35Can't wait for the fast tracks...CHEFS::GRIFFITHSRFri Apr 21 1995 13:115
41.36you aint seen nothing ....LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Fri Apr 21 1995 13:4011
41.37TOTALLY TIFFOSICHEFS::MOLINARI_MPASTA TWISTA RACING 70 DUSTERWed Apr 26 1995 14:266
41.38YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!ODIXIE::CERASOFri Apr 28 1995 01:231
41.39Track recordEVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredTue May 02 1995 16:333
41.40V12 -2?EVTSG8::62883::EdwardTotally wiredFri Jun 09 1995 09:096
41.41MKTING::WILSONFri Jun 09 1995 10:073
41.42LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Fri Jun 09 1995 11:236
41.43KAOFS::M_NAKAGAWAFri Jun 09 1995 19:506
41.44KAOFS::M_NAKAGAWASun Jun 11 1995 23:064
41.45EVTSG8::62883::EdwardTotally wiredThu Jun 22 1995 10:027
41.46EVTSG8::62883::EdwardTotally wiredWed Jun 28 1995 14:476
41.47PLAYER::BROWNLTyro-Delphi-hackerWed Jun 28 1995 15:584
41.48MKTING::WILSONFri Jun 30 1995 10:2114
41.49RIOT01::KINGMad mushroomsFri Jun 30 1995 10:298
41.50WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Fri Jun 30 1995 10:459
41.51UNTADI::SAXBYFri Jun 30 1995 11:174
41.52I'd have the 250LMESBS01::WATSONWhat do you want ?Fri Jun 30 1995 11:226
41.53WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Fri Jun 30 1995 11:2813
41.54UNTADI::SAXBYFri Jun 30 1995 11:357
41.55WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Fri Jun 30 1995 11:518
41.56Coult for pole!MKTING::WILSONFri Jun 30 1995 11:543
41.57Nowt so blind...UNTADI::SAXBYFri Jun 30 1995 12:006
41.58Ah ! the Miura (my preferred road car)LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Thu Jul 06 1995 14:1918
41.59....unless my Lottery numbers come up !WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Thu Jul 06 1995 14:298
41.60EVTSG8::62883::EdwardTotally wiredTue Jul 18 1995 13:405
41.61:-) and all thatESBS01::WATSONWhat do you want ?Tue Jul 18 1995 14:504
41.62VANGA::KERRELLDECUS Dublin 11-15 September'95Wed Jul 19 1995 08:534
41.63Lambo triviaLEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Thu Jul 20 1995 16:306
41.64AIMTEC::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatThu Jul 20 1995 17:116
41.65Wine? or...KAOFS::M_NAKAGAWAFri Jul 21 1995 06:034
41.66LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Fri Jul 21 1995 18:1810
41.67More wine triviaIOSG::DUTTNigel DuttFri Jul 21 1995 19:502
41.68guess ...LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Mon Jul 24 1995 19:321
41.69LARVAE::WILLIAMS_KWed Jul 26 1995 15:474
41.70Ferrari admit contactMILE::JENKINSThu Jul 27 1995 15:179
41.71MKTING::WILSONThu Jul 27 1995 15:484
41.72EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredThu Jul 27 1995 17:253
41.73LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Fri Jul 28 1995 16:168
41.74OuiIOSG::DUTTNigel DuttMon Jul 31 1995 10:482
41.75Alesi to JordanXSTACY::GHARTNETTMon Jul 31 1995 13:173
41.76RubbishEVTSG8::62883::EdwardTotally wiredWed Aug 02 1995 10:5116
41.77why is this happening ?LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Thu Aug 03 1995 11:4315
41.78JGO::AMERSFOORTThu Aug 10 1995 13:395
41.79Agnelli says . . .SALES::DSKARZENSKIFri Aug 11 1995 17:557
41.80KAOFS::M_NAKAGAWAFri Aug 11 1995 22:507
41.81MOEUR8::VIPONDMon Aug 14 1995 11:134
41.82Bad to worseEVTSG8::62883::EdwardTotally wiredWed Aug 16 1995 10:0515
41.83PLAYER::BROWNLTyro-Delphi-hackerWed Aug 16 1995 10:147
41.84EVTSG8::62883::EdwardTotally wiredWed Aug 16 1995 10:194
41.85UNTADH::SAXBYWho needs a life when you've a PN?Wed Aug 16 1995 10:578
41.86PLAYER::BROWNLTyro-Delphi-hackerWed Aug 16 1995 11:093
41.87EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredWed Aug 16 1995 11:213
41.88BAHTAT::HILTONhttp://blyth.lzo.dec.comWed Aug 16 1995 11:213
41.89KUNTADH::SAXBYWho needs a life when you've a PN?Wed Aug 16 1995 11:478
41.90Yes but it'll be funWOTVAX::ROWEMFrank Gamballi's TrousersWed Aug 16 1995 13:115
41.91Larini?YUPPY::PATEMANCuore SportivoWed Aug 16 1995 13:168
41.92And Coulthard's almost an Englishman!UNTADH::SAXBYWho needs a life when you've a PN?Wed Aug 16 1995 13:255
41.93Details, Details, DetailsYUPPY::PATEMANCuore SportivoWed Aug 16 1995 13:274
41.94Like Belgians and Frenchmen.UNTADH::SAXBYWho needs a life when you've a PN?Wed Aug 16 1995 13:3611
41.95The BP of F1?EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredWed Aug 16 1995 14:149
41.96Wouldn't need the German market then!UNTADH::SAXBYWho needs a life when you've a PN?Wed Aug 16 1995 16:099
41.97with complimentary concrete footwearLJSRV2::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOWed Aug 16 1995 16:578
41.98AIMTEC::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatThu Aug 17 1995 16:254
41.99RDGENG::GREIDAll that is, was and will be...Thu Aug 17 1995 16:345
41.100LJSRV2::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOFri Aug 18 1995 00:107
41.101Berger interviewODIXIE::CERASOFri Aug 25 1995 03:00129
41.102EVTSG8::62883::EdwardTotally wiredMon Aug 28 1995 10:096
41.103EVTSG8::62883::EdwardTotally wiredTue Aug 29 1995 10:358
41.104it's the last chanceLEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Tue Sep 19 1995 13:5616
41.105HypeMKTING::WILSONTue Sep 19 1995 15:189
41.106BAHTAT::HILTONhttp://blyth.lzo.dec.comTue Sep 19 1995 15:473
41.107Al�si's angerEVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredMon Sep 25 1995 11:0512
41.108RE: Al�si's angerVNACO1::KARASEKThomas KARASEK @AUIMon Sep 25 1995 11:319
41.109LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Mon Sep 25 1995 18:508
41.110Stalinissimo!CHEFS::mepc61.evo.DEC.COM::EdwardTotally wiredWed Sep 27 1995 09:469
41.111CHEFS::WILLIAMS_KWed Sep 27 1995 12:343
41.112MKTING::WILSONWed Sep 27 1995 13:4912
41.113CHEFS::WILLIAMS_KWed Sep 27 1995 14:004
41.114Coulthard - Saviour of the PlanetYUPPY::PATEMANCuore SportivoWed Sep 27 1995 14:2711
41.115MKTING::WILSONWed Sep 27 1995 14:507
41.116Rat Hole AlertYUPPY::PATEMANCuore SportivoWed Sep 27 1995 15:0311
41.117Master(s) of understatementMILE::JENKINSWed Sep 27 1995 15:199
41.118MKTING::WILSONWed Sep 27 1995 15:296
41.119Ferrari V10CHEFS::16.188.0.99::EdwardTotally wiredWed Oct 04 1995 15:5414
41.120EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredMon Oct 16 1995 16:156
41.121The come=back kid!BRSTR1::SCHOOFSMon Oct 16 1995 17:2912
41.122WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Mon Oct 16 1995 17:408
41.123LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Mon Oct 16 1995 18:5420
41.124IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttMon Oct 16 1995 19:002
41.125TURRIS::gemnt3.zko.dec.com::winalskiPLIT happens...Mon Oct 16 1995 20:499
41.126Wunderkind?EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredMon Oct 23 1995 10:2511
41.127Ja, ja.....IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttMon Oct 23 1995 17:017
41.128SHOULD win ALL, so maybe WILL win SOMESALES::DSKARZENSKITue Oct 24 1995 12:4319
41.129LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Wed Oct 25 1995 11:183
41.130WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Wed Oct 25 1995 11:354
41.131CHEFS::WILLIAMS_KWed Oct 25 1995 15:192
41.132 Concerned about Benetton's futureLEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Wed Oct 25 1995 15:4217
41.133COL01::LINNARTZWed Oct 25 1995 17:1012
41.134EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredThu Nov 02 1995 14:546
41.135IOSG::breez.reo.dec.com::FREERFri Nov 03 1995 17:157
41.136Not so bad...IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttFri Nov 03 1995 18:252
41.137Arrivederci Jeannot!EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredMon Nov 13 1995 16:2410
41.138New blood at FioranoEVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredFri Nov 17 1995 10:269
41.139COL01::LINNARTZSat Nov 18 1995 13:0510
41.140THIS is also an exciting seasonSALES::DSKARZENSKIMon Nov 20 1995 18:054
41.141WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Tue Nov 21 1995 09:418
41.142LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Thu Nov 23 1995 17:044
41.143Ferrari home pageEVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredMon Nov 27 1995 12:129
41.144COL01::LINNARTZTue Jan 02 1996 22:144
41.145COL01::LINNARTZTue Jan 02 1996 22:2453
41.146LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Fri Jan 05 1996 14:383
41.147COL01::LINNARTZFri Jan 12 1996 18:3912
41.148Gustav goneSALES::DSKARZENSKIWed Jan 17 1996 03:386
41.149LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Fri Jan 19 1996 18:018
41.150EVTAI1::alesi.fms.evt.DEC.COM::EdwardTotally WiredFri Feb 16 1996 08:514
41.151On the wwwIOSG::DUTTNigel DuttFri Feb 16 1996 10:014
41.152Ferrari web sitesEVTAI1::alesi.fms.evt.DEC.COM::EdwardTotally WiredFri Feb 16 1996 12:446
41.153F310 has problemsIOSG::DUTTNigel DuttTue Feb 20 1996 11:167
41.154Latest from EstorilEVTAI1::alesi.fms.evt.DEC.COM::EdwardTotally WiredWed Feb 21 1996 10:4011
41.155F310 = F92 ?LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Fri Feb 23 1996 17:089
41.156COL01::LINNARTZMon Feb 26 1996 09:0313
41.157LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Mon Feb 26 1996 14:087
41.158Great startSALES::DSKARZENSKIFri Mar 15 1996 01:5315
41.159Slightly less red glasses (pink?)MOEUR8::SMITHFast as a Mamba, Brave as a Lion!Fri Mar 15 1996 08:1413
41.160ELIS::HOOGOn error then RTFMWed Mar 27 1996 08:4932
41.161Hybrid F310IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttThu Mar 28 1996 13:425
41.162COL01::LINNARTZMon Apr 22 1996 15:1119
41.163What did they expect? Micracles?MILE::JENKINSTue Jul 02 1996 12:1911
41.164IRNBRU::61549::SpikeYes it does, dosen't it?Tue Jul 02 1996 12:5222
41.165CHEFS::LINCOLN_JTue Jul 02 1996 13:353
41.166LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Tue Jul 02 1996 17:1014
41.167TURRIS::lspace.zko.dec.com::winalskiPLIT happens...Tue Jul 02 1996 20:5812
41.168WOTVAX::WILSONJOTue Jul 02 1996 21:3321
41.169More rain on Ferrari's paradeIOSG::DUTTNigel DuttWed Jul 03 1996 10:474
41.170Ferrari hits new lowCHEFS::LINCOLN_JMon Jul 15 1996 13:2411
41.171Schu's freebie...IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttThu Sep 12 1996 18:486
41.172Faster F310IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttFri Sep 13 1996 15:527
41.173you missed a 5OTOOA::LAVIGNEFri Sep 13 1996 17:595
41.174WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Wed Nov 06 1996 10:517
41.175UTRTSC::WDEBAKKERFeed your headThu Nov 07 1996 09:356
41.176Ferrari appointmentsIOSG::DUTTNigel DuttWed Nov 27 1996 17:489
41.177post-Barnard era ?LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Mon Dec 02 1996 08:584
41.178New Ferrari launchedIOSG::DUTTNigel DuttWed Jan 08 1997 09:356
41.179Seeing redIOSG::DUTTNigel DuttTue Jan 14 1997 09:384
41.180LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Tue Jan 14 1997 13:3410
41.181 Re-united at last !CHEFS::CZERESMTue Feb 11 1997 15:0016
    
    Ferrari press anouncement ; 
    
    Rory Byrne will take over as Chief Designer from
    John Barnard from the 17th Feb.
    
    He will join his old mucker from Benetton Ross Brawn
    who was appointed the Technical Director in jan. .
    
    These two were seen as the creative force at Benetton
    bringing them much success in recent years.
    
    cheers
    
    mark
                       
41.182PGP in formationLEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Tue Feb 11 1997 17:565
    .181�    Rory Byrne will take over as Chief Designer from
    .181�    John Barnard from the 17th Feb.
    
    That seems to confirm that Barnard will soon join his old friend Alain
    Prost.
41.183Old boys' club?IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttTue Feb 11 1997 18:353
    Just needs old Niki Lauda to move his "consultant role" from Ferrari to
    Prost and it'll be just like old times. Now I wonder of they'd give old
    Nige a job for old time's sake....
41.184More on Barnard's futureIOSG::DUTTNigel DuttTue Feb 11 1997 18:4812
    ...a bit more from the Ferrari website.
    
    Barnard stays in charge of "Ferrari Design & Development" in Guildford,
    and this will operate as an atonomous facility specialising in
    "specialist design and manufacture". Ferrari will use them as a
    supplier "only in the production field". This is part of the plan of
    "concentrating in Maranello all the team's activities", which seems
    pretty sensible to me. They say that "subject to final agreement, it is
    the parties' intention to implement this project within the next 2
    months".
    
    I wonder if that would allow Barnard's facility to design for Prost....
41.185Yesterday's testingIOSG::DUTTNigel DuttWed Feb 12 1997 16:214
    Ferrari say they successfully did a full GP simulation at Estoril
    yesterday with the new car and engine. Eddie Irvine did the driving and
    recorded a best of ! 21.00. Schumacher was doing a lot of set-up work
    and recorded 1 20.019. No problems with either car.
41.186chances?CHEFS::16.37.11.21::keating_Bthere's one in every village!!!!Thu Feb 13 1997 09:5310
On BBC1 Teletext last night, Michael still thinks there is a lot of work to 
be done to make the car competitive and for him to be in the running for 
the championship.

Methinks he's sand bagging and will win a few more than last year.



Brian
41.187A bit fasterIOSG::DUTTNigel DuttFri Feb 14 1997 10:487
    Ferrari ended the test at Estoril with a time of ! 19.6 odd by
    Schumacher, which just about equalled the best time set by McLaren
    earlier in the week.
    
    Autosport reckoned that disappointment with the new car was the last
    straw for Ferrari with respect to John Barnard. Williams agrees with
    Brian in reply -.1 and doesn't believe a word Schu is saying.
41.188Ferrari runs at 500MHz nowSAPEC3::TRINHSAP Technology CenterThu Mar 20 1997 18:1779
    Now they've got someone to blame.
    
    Hung
    
    
From:	NAME: RICCARDO SIMINO @MLN          
	FUNC: H.P.T.C. Mktg                   
	TEL: 793-8490                         <SIMINO AT A1 @ITGATE @MLN>
To:     See Below
CC:     See Below

    We are really glad to inform you that, after a long, strong and in a 
    few moments dramatic negotiation, we defeated Silicon Graphics in 
    Ferrari Racing. The win of this bid practically allows to us to throw 
    SGI out from one of their most defended fortresses.
    
    The success story began about 1 year ago, when for the first time We 
    beaten SGI selling an architecture based on a  Alphaserver 8200/5/300 
    3CPUs 1GB RAM + 2 Alphastations 255 + Alhpastation 600 against a SGI 
    Power Challenge XL 4 CPUs + Indigos. This architecture linked via FDDI, 
    was devoted to run FLUENT (30% faster on the 8200 than PowerChallenge), 
    and Nastran/Patran. The business value was about 600K$.
    
    After this first break, a new request came from Ferrari to achieve a 
    computing environment devoted to run Mark Mentat, Star CD, Pro 
    Mechanica IDEAS, and Nastran in SMP environment.
    
    This bid has been very difficult because of the tremendous aggressivity 
    of SGI who didn't want to loose the last opportunity to stay in one of 
    its customers and because of the continuous difficulties tackled to 
    provide reliable versions of the ISV applications on our platforms.
    
    Despite that our need to win at any cost the bid gave us the knockoff 
    to beat SGI and Ferrari Racings chosen Digital instead SGI.
    
    Our offer is based on:
    
    1)	 An Alphaserver 4100/5/466 2CPUs 2GB RAM
    2)	 4 Alphastations 500/400
    3)	 2 Alphaservers 4000/5/466 1CPU
    4)	 Upgrade of the Alphaserver 8200 based on:
    	 A) Replacement of the 3 CPUs 300Mhz with 2  CPUs 440Mhz.
    	 B) 2GBytes add-on
    
    Total business value about 600K$
    
    	 The solution based on a distributed architecture and on the 
    improvement of the Alphaserver 8200, allowed us to put in difficulty 
    SGI.
    
    Please join us in congratulating with Sergio Poletti who did a "magic" 
    job as technical support, and we want to thank all the Corporate and 
    European Resources Technical and Marketing who helped us on this long 
    bid.
    
    	 Anyway, this win  must be considered like a point to start more 
    committed than ever for Ferrari. Ferrari believed in Digital and we 
    must not disappoint them.
    
    	 Nastran, Mentat, Star CD, not yet do run optimized on our SMP 
    systems and not yet in reliable way. We expect that the the Corporate 
    SPG and SPE groups should spurred by this success to resolve the 
    problems of these applications in the timeframe that the Ferrari  does 
    expect.
    
    	 We have now a great opportunity to build an important world wide 
    success story and reference of the Digital HPTC solutions in the 
    manufacturing and engineering Let's try to take advantage from it 
    and let's satisfy the confidence that Ferrari (any many other customers 
    where we can win) are putting on Digital.
    
    	 Best Regards
    
    	 Fulvio Jugo 
    	 (Account Manager Ferrari)
    
    	 Simino Riccardo
    	 (HPTC Program Manager) 
    
41.189WOTVAX::STONEGMagician Among the Spirits.........Fri Mar 21 1997 10:524
    Great News ! does this mean we get a DIGITAL logo on the car ?
    
    Graham
    
41.190Do we have Marketing?SAPEC3::TRINHSAP Technology CenterFri Mar 21 1997 13:354
>   Great News ! does this mean we get a DIGITAL logo on the car ?
    
    Don't know. I don't think so. But as soon as we have a Marketing
    organisation...    ;-)
41.191Would cost at least the $600K orderBRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @17.5K music to my earsFri Mar 21 1997 14:154
    I would think we would have to give away the $600K if not more to get
    the LOGO on the nose again.
    
    Fred
41.192Ferrari long time digital userCHEFS::LINCOLN_JFri Mar 21 1997 15:224
	Ferraris have carried the Digital Logo many times in the past.
	In those days only suppliers could be identified on the cars.

	-John
41.193WOTVAX::STONEGMagician Among the Spirits.........Fri Mar 21 1997 15:346
    
    That's what wa referring to. The thing is, in the days when we had as
    logo on the car as a supplier, was it because we gave the kit for free
    ?
    
    G.
41.194wrong car (or wrong logo?)LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Thu Mar 27 1997 12:082
    There is one problem: the color of our logo. In the days of the blue
    logo it was visible. How can you see a red logo on a red car?
41.195WOTVAX::STONEGMagician Among the Spirits.........Thu Mar 27 1997 12:333
    Put it on a white background ?
    
    G.
41.196Much better than redBRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @17.5K music to my earsThu Mar 27 1997 14:003
    We should get the whole car painted DIGITAL purple ;').
    
    Fred
41.197CTHU22::M_MORINMario Morin, Hull CSC - CanadaMon Apr 14 1997 18:498
Ferrari are reportedly in negociations with Bridgestone for
a possible tire change during the season.

Good Year are saying no way, contract is cast in concrete.

Would this be possible during the season?

/Mario
41.198OTOOA::LAVIGNETue Apr 15 1997 00:573
    If it's as valid as a drivers contract.....we all know what that is
    worth.  I think Ferrari want at least the Constructors title and I
    think having the Bridgestones would be better than the GoodYears.
41.199Too soon to jump off the BLIMP !BRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @17.5K music to my earsTue Apr 15 1997 15:1614
    I think ferrari would be jumping ship a bit too soon.
    
    Goodyear have been around for a long time and have won all these
    tire/tyre battles on both sides of the ocean.
    
    If Ferrari changed the first season they could be left in the cold next
    year when BS gives up on the great cost of the overall program.
    
    However this said F-1 seem to be a jump ship type of people with no
    loyalty so anything can happen.
    
    I'd wait for the next generation of Goodyears.
    
    Fred
41.200LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Wed Apr 16 1997 13:4415
    If I read the lips of the various Ferrari people interviewed during the
    last week-end: they will have Bridgestones next year and they would
    very much like to have Bridgestones asap.
    
    Now, the formidable performance of Olivier Panis does not only hinge on
    Bridgestone tyres:
    
    - Panis is good
    - the Prost (ex-Ligier) JS45 is good too
    - Prost GP is the development partner team of Bridgestone, so they get
      special treat
    
    Will Ferrari have Bridgestones ? Definitely
    When ? as soon as Bridgestone can supply IMHO
    Are Bridgestone tyres better? obvious answer
41.201Why ?BRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @17.5K music to my earsWed Apr 16 1997 21:1711
    Patrick, why does Ferrari want to move to BS ? Do they have some reason
    other than BS are the best today.
    
    I thought Good Year and Ferrari went way back. Good Year will have a
    better tire soon and they'll wish they were back with GY.
    
    Has BS had some breakthru that will sideline GY. On top of the cost to
    break the contract and hard feelings.
    
    I can't see it.                      
    Fred
41.202CTHU22::M_MORINMario Morin, Hull CSC - CanadaWed Apr 16 1997 21:3010
I remember hearing a top mgmt at Good Year before the F1 season 
started this year.

He said that it was never a good thing for GY to have the 
monopoly on F1 tires because, as a result, their R&D budgets
got frozen and/or cut.  They were actually quite happy to see
BG come into F1 so that they can justify more R&D funding in
the future.

/Mario
41.203EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredThu Apr 17 1997 22:086
    Re: last.
    
    I agree. Nothing breeds complacency like a monopoly and the inevitable
    "success" it brings.
    
    Edward.
41.204Procrastinate and LoseCHEFS::LINCOLN_JFri Apr 18 1997 10:5211
	Next year is after all next year and apart from anything
	else tyres will then have grooves in them. If Ferrari
	or any other top team want to take advantage of the current
	advantage that Bridgestone have the time is now, right
	now.

	Ferrari, in particular, are desperate to win. They've bought
	the best of everything and now when a relatively cheap 
	advantage comes along they can't have it (or can they?).

	-John
41.205LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Tue Apr 22 1997 11:5022
    .201� Patrick, why does Ferrari want to move to BS ? Do they have some reason
    .201� other than BS are the best today.
    
    No, basically that's enough as a good reason.
    
    .201� I thought Good Year and Ferrari went way back. Good Year will have a
    .201� better tire soon and they'll wish they were back with GY.
    
    True, Ferrari have been using Goodyears for a while. But remember back
    in the days of multiple tyre suppliers they have been using Firestones
    and others, with success.
    
    .201� Has BS had some breakthru that will sideline GY. On top of the cost to
    .201� break the contract and hard feelings.
    
    IMHO, Bridgestone have the same performance advantage in F1 as they
    have for road tyres. Also, listening to Olivier Panis, they are working
    hard with their development team (ProstGP) to supply tyres that are
    best adapted to the local track conditions. For instance they have made
    special tyres for the Buenos-Aires track which was very dusty. Watching
    the in-car shots of Panis, it was obvious that he was on rails, unlike
    the Ferraris, Benettons, etc ... which were all over the place.