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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

1643.0. "Winter '95 projects" by NCMAIL::BLUMJ () Thu Dec 01 1994 15:08

    Well it's winter here(snow on the ground,cold,etc.) so I thought I
    would start off the "Winter '95 Project " note.
    
    First project:
    
    Senior Telemaster - Scratch built with fiberglass fuselage and 9 ft.
                        wingspan.  Power- ST3000, ST4500, OS BGX1 or
                        Quadra 38/45, will decide when airframe is
                        complete.
    
    Second Project - 1/4 scale Roke ASK18 sailplane. Fiberglass fuselage,
                     162" wingspan.
    
    
    What's everyone else got on the building board for '95?
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Jim 
    
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1643.1oundsoWMOIS::WEIERKeep those wings spinning!Thu Dec 01 1994 15:2914
    
    
             1. Finish rebuilding the X-cell that crashed
    
             2. Finish building the Gremlin I was building when the
                X-cell crashed
    
             3.Finish building the UNIC I bought from Dan Snow
    
             4. Build a pattern Ship (LA-1 or Boxer)
    
    Now.... I think the other half of the deal is to do a check-in, say....
     about April to see how everyone did against their plans! :)          
    
1643.2VMSSG::FRIEDRICHSI'd rather be flying!Thu Dec 01 1994 15:3119
    
    Sigh..
    
    	Repair (JR modified :-) Eindecker
    	Repair Oly-II
    	Repair Cub
    	Repair Junkers
    
    So, by *1996*, I should be able to get to the rest of the list...
    
    	Build Taube
    	Build Chuperosa
    	Build Nieuport-11
    
    I hardly remember what a new kit looks like!
    
    Cheers,
    jeff
    
1643.3Hours to go before I sleepMKOTS1::YATESThu Dec 01 1994 15:5812
    Winter projects are as follows:
    
    Ford Tri-motor
    
    Have completed the building process (after 1100 hours) and I estimate
    it is half built with the detailing still to come.
    
    So, as Jeff said, by 1996, I should be able to start on the Storch.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Ollie
1643.4RANGER::REITHThu Dec 01 1994 16:1110
Look back in my entries in the late 1990 timeframe and you'll see a reference to
a P-38 that I have the plans and fiberglass parts for.

Then look in the what did I get for Christmas 1992 section and you'll see the
US60 that it half built.

Then look at the "so you want to fly gliders" topic and you'll find reference to
the need to build an open class glider.

What am I doing this winter? Probably trying just to keep up with repairs 8^(
1643.5winter projectsDNEAST::MALCOLM_BRUCThu Dec 01 1994 16:3817
    
    Winter projects, Hmmmmm?
    
    1. Complete Royal Pitts S2B 99.8% done.
    
    2. Build the Rutan Long-EZE
    
    3. Complete my U-2 Mitchell Superwing Ultralight
    
    -3 May take more than the winter....8^)
    
    
    Hi, Jim R.!!
    
    
    Bruce
    
1643.6Plane #3 for me..AD::BARBERThere is no dark side of the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's Thu Dec 01 1994 16:388
    For me, I've decided on a US60 with retracts.  Probably add a nice
    reliable OS engine (2 stroke).  I'll have to check out what tower
    offers with the plane.  Anyone know offhand?  That's it for me.  oh
    yeah, and _maybe_ I'll finish my gremlin.  Just needs glue and a new
    carb.  On that subject, any know of any aftermarket carbs that will fit
    a K&B .28?
                                                         
    
1643.7An ARF Christmas?NCMAIL::BLUMJThu Dec 01 1994 16:4950
    re: -1
    
    Jim,
    
       Your situation is more the rule than the exception.  Most modelers
    have more kits or plans/materials stacked up than they'll ever get to
    in a lifetime.  Receiving a box of balsa and a plan(typical USA kit) is
    almost a curse!
    
    Although most modelers don't believe it, I contend that you are better
    off purchasing a quality ARF kit if you can find one that suits your
    taste.  The chances of it actually being finished and used are much
    greater than if you purchase a kit or plans amd materials.  What
    happens to all of us is we purchase additional kits or plans/materials
    while the original project remains unfinished.
    
    I have spent at least as much money on plans, materials(Epoxy,
    fiberglass, kevlar, carbon, balsa, spruce, ca, foam), and building
    equipment(power supply to hot wire, wing press, clamps, building jis,
    etc) to cover the cost of at least one if not two ARF 1/4 scale gliders
    that would be in the air flying rather than laying in the cellar!
    
    Al Casey sort of echoed this by advising not to scratch build if a
    suitable kit was available.  My friend Robin goes one step further and
    advises that the most complete ARF be purchased whenever possible.  If
    you have a life outside of R/C (ie job, family, other interests, etc)
    this advice will hit home.
    
    My father is the cheapest SOB when it comes to modeling, refusing to
    even buy a kit - everything is scratch built!  I'll bet he has enough
    plans and materials that he'll never use to have purchased 4 or 5
    beautiful airplanes that he could actually have enjoyed flying.
    
    I am not in any way attempting to discourage kit builders or scratch
    modeling.  We all know that there is joy and satisfaction to be had
    here.  Some kits absolutely have to be scratch built because there are
    no alternatives.  But for many of us it would make more sense to have
    purchased an ARF type model.  The time and money saved are rewards in
    themselves, plus you actually get to fly the thing!
    
    An unbuilt model or pile of materials represents no value regardless of
    what you paid for it!  So treat yourself to a quality ARF if you can
    find one or buy a nice pre-built kit at an auction.  If you can stop
    buying kits and materials you will not be financially worse off.
    
    Comments?
    
    Regards,
    
    Jim 
1643.8My winter projectsODIXIE::HOWERon Howe - Project Manager - DTN 343-0065Thu Dec 01 1994 16:5810
    My friend Bob and I fly down here in Atlanta (ALF).  We built a 95inch
    telemaster over Thanksgiving week end.  The purpose of this plane is
    to launch his 76 inch glider from atop the Telemaster.  I will pick
    up 5 rolls of centry 21 cloth to cover this monster this week end.
    We hope to film and test this experment before Xmas.  We have seen this
    done at a near by RC air field.
    
    During Xmas week, we will build a F15 kit by great planes.
     
    Wish us luck.
1643.9RANGER::REITHThu Dec 01 1994 17:052
I won't list the 20+ kits I have in boxes in and around the house. I look at
those as my inheritance when I retire (real soon now 8^)
1643.10NCMAIL::BLUMJFri Dec 02 1994 09:2016
    Another problem I have found with letting kits pile up is often when
    you get some time the kit you bought 4 years ago is no longer of
    interest to you.
    
    I have this situation now.  I have switched my efforts to wet power
    planes and scale gliders so the following electric stuff is gathering
    cobwebs:
    
    1) Trabi F3E fuselage - needs wing cut and pressed
    2) Cad Cat Pylon racer - needs wing cut and pressed
    3) Easy Built Hurricane - built up kit in box
    4) Jerry Slates Fuselage waiting for wing and tailfeathers, paint, etc
    
    I don't have enough time to do glo, electric, and gliders, so when I
    get time I hope the above still interests me because it represents
    close to $1000 with motors and speed controllers.
1643.11RANGER::REITHFri Dec 02 1994 09:222
Gee, being an optimist, 4 planes represents my "short" queue 8^)

1643.12No SweatMKOTS3::MARRONEFri Dec 02 1994 12:3721
    Well let's see ....
    
    Its a really big queue this year.
    
    	First, bebuild the Extra 300
    	Then, rebuild the Taube
    	Find time to repair the club plane (which crashed while I was
    		flying it.  Lucky me)
    	Complete 6 Taube kits that are half done and get them into the
    		hands of six other builders with no time ;-)
    	Build a NIB Sukhoi
    	Finally, if time permits, finish a half built P-51D
    
    I'm not even going to think about rebuilding the Fun One!!
    
    
    Piece 'O' cake
    
    Regards,
    Joe
       
1643.13My listNETCAD::WFIELDWayne Field,LKG2-2/BB7Fri Dec 02 1994 12:388
	1) Finish the Stinson Reliant that I started building in 76 :^)

	2) Goldberg Sukhoi


	I'm pretty sure I'll get to the Sukhoi, but it might take a
	while longer to get to the Stinson. I don't like to rush things :^)
1643.14VMSSG::FRIEDRICHSI'd rather be flying!Fri Dec 02 1994 12:537
    Boy, wouldn't Jim C be tearing into all of us about now!!
    
    Something about balsa slow... :-)
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    
1643.15Gone but not forgottenSNAX::SMITHI FEEL THE NEEDFri Dec 02 1994 14:0254
Never underestimate the BALSA SLOW KING.........
    
    A message from Jim Cavanagh.......
    
    
From:	CRL::"Jim=Cavanagh%IS=MIL5A%[email protected]"  2-DEC-1994 13:59:20.92
To:	snax::smith
CC:	
Subj:	re:read last reply first



  Hi Steve,

  I knew my ears were buring for a reason!  :^)

  If you want a list of my winter projects...well just go back to my last
one (from the Winter 1993/1994) topic and repost it.  :)

  Seriously...I haven't gotten a dang thing finished in a llooonnnggg 
time.
I still have the Ultra Sport 40 and the Boxer on the bench.  I've just 
been
too busy to even think about working on them.

  But maybe with the cold weather upon us I'll be able to make more time
down in the basement and do some building (gee...where have I heard *that*
before???  :)

  I do hope to be able to put more $$ into the hobby as my new job pays
a *lot* more than my old one!  :-)  So I should be able to pay Charlie to
build the rest of my Boxer!...beer isn't cheap you know!  :-)

  Oh yeah....I want to invite everyone over to my house sometime in 
January
for an HTA beer and pizza, show what you got for Christmas, party.

 Anyone interested?

     Gotta run...they actually make me work (a 4 letter word) here!  :-)


                Jim

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1643.16RANGER::REITHFri Dec 02 1994 14:093
No mention of a certain L-4 8^)

Balsa-slo King, indeed!
1643.17What do you think?NCMAIL::BLUMJFri Dec 02 1994 14:123
    I wonder if more than 50% of all the kits sold ever fly?
    
    Comments?
1643.18The original wording could have been misconstrewedRANGER::REITHFri Dec 02 1994 14:509
>    I wonder if more than 50% of all the kits sold ever fly?

No
    
>    Comments?

I think the actual percentage is lower.

I also think that even fewer still fly twice!
1643.19CXDOCS::TAVARESHave Pen, Will TravelFri Dec 02 1994 15:567
Well, when it comes to slow, I may be a contender.  I'm still working
on a Mark's Models Sunny Bipe that I started two years ago.  That is a
very small airplane.  But it should be neat; I've covered it in silver
and applied some markings off a NASA decal sheet, though it took 3
sheets to do the job.  All that's needed now is a flame job on the
nose and a test flight.  Maybe this Spring, if I can get my work
situation settled by then.
1643.20 :)GLR02::SNOWFri Dec 02 1994 16:198
    My winter '95 project is to keep a path wide enough down the basement
    to get from the bottom of the stairs to the washer/dryer and back with the
    laundry basket without knocking into any of Dan's "Winter projects" !  
    
    :) :) :) :) :)
    
    Lin
     
1643.21Winter projectsGAAS::FISHERBXB2-2/G08 DTN 293-5695Mon Dec 05 1994 09:5416
I guess one of my winter project will have to be a Gremlin since
I seem to have one less today than I had last week - details
in another note.

I will finish two submarines.

I hope to finish one tug boat - but no promises.

I got a zillion airplane kits backed up waiting for me to
clear off work benches.

Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
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1643.22I can be real procratinatic!CGOOA::MALONEPleasantly ObtuseTue Dec 13 1994 18:3614
    you wanna talk slow.....I finished (except for balancing and test
    flight) of a Top-Flite P-39 back in 1978!....Tore it down 2 years ago,
    and rebuilt it as a P-63 racer (Tipsy Miss...sure is red).  All I have 
    left is some detailing, balance and test flight...maybe this coming
    spring..that way it will be a full 17 years old...and never been
    finished or let out of the house!
    
    Others...finish my Golberg Chipmunk...all it needs is balancing and
    test flight...probably in 2012.
    
    Complete Liberty Sport Bipe...started fall of 89'
    
    
    Rod
1643.23RANGER::REITHWed Dec 14 1994 09:074
There is hope... two years ago I "tried" to fly an overweight Dave Platt
Spitfire I built around 1970. One word of warning... check your old glue joints.

Jim
1643.24The glide ratio of "An Anvil strapped to a Manhole cover"CGOOA::MALONEPleasantly ObtuseTue Dec 20 1994 20:3620
    re .23
    
    	The converted P-63 is an old Top Flite kit...I believe that it used
    screws, rivets and gang-nails for construction.  Then you were to
    finish it up in 5 lb fiberglass cloth, and spray on a couple of coats
    of colored liquid resin.  Of course this requires beefing up the old
    landing gear, but I found a couple of 3/4 ton truck door hinges that
    seem to be able to stand up to the task...all you gotta do is hook them
    up to a couple of screen door cylinders, and ratchet the whole thing
    down with high tensile bolts...couple the hinges back to a power take
    off from the 10 horse Briggs and Stratton, and you got yourself a real
    plane!
    
    ...Thanks for the tip on glue joints though, I actually neglected to
    check them over real well, might be worthwhile spending some time hosin
    down the joints with ACC.
    
    P.S.  Anyone got any leads on really light 12 volt car batteries?
    
    Rod