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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

1454.0. "Gentle Lady and Kadet MKII Beginner questions" by STAR::LEMIEUX () Wed Sep 09 1992 15:12

	After maaannnnyyyy years of wanting to fly RC models I finally 
	purchase Gentle Lady to start with.

	I notice the STAB and FIN are stick assembly. I expected the
	wing to be this way but did not expect the Stab and Fin to be
	done in this fashion. So be it...

	I would like opinions on the Monokote hinge technigue use on 
	this model.

	Also suggestion of how I can sand the Dihedral angles...?
	one is 3.5 degrees! What is the tolerance for error...?

	What Servos should I use. FUTUBA NBF is what I am ordering...

	I am new at this and would like some pointers..

	My next Model I am considering is the Sig Kadet MKII. Is this all
	stick build or is the stab/fin made from 1/4 sheet stock?

	Engine considerations.

		Magnum	40's, 45's  (BB,SF,FP, etc ) 		Experience...
		Fox	
		OS
		Enya
		Royal
		Saito
		RJL
		K&B
		Tigre

	I know I am asking a lot.. But I have a lot of questions..

	Anything will help....

	Arthur

	
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1454.1UNYEM::BLUMJWed Sep 09 1992 15:3216
    Arthur,
    
          The built-up rudder and stab on the Gentle Lady will result in
    a lighter structure than a solid balsa sheet.  This means you won't
    have to add as much weight in the nose to achieve the proper center
    of gravity.
    
    I have had good luck using Scotch transparent tape for hinging, I think
    it might be a little easier to apply than monokote hinges.
    
    Use whatever servos come with the radio you purchase.  The GL does not
    require micro servos or anything special.
    
                                                   Good luck,
    
                                                   Jim
1454.2N25480::FRIEDRICHSOrganizationally ChallengedWed Sep 09 1992 16:1010
    Arthur, please be sure to take some time and read through all of the 
    beginner topics in here. There is lots of good info!
    
    Check out the keyword directory in 11.*.
    
    Where do you plan on flying??  Have you joined the local club yet??
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    
1454.3SuggestionsQUIVER::WALTERWed Sep 09 1992 22:1038
    Regarding building in dihedral:
    I cut a dihedral gauge out of cardboard. The gauge should have an angle
    of 90 degrees plus 1/2 the dihedral angle of the two surfaces. So if
    the specified dihedral angle is 5 degrees, the gauge should have an
    angle of 92.5 degrees. When you glue in the root rib, use the guage to
    position it to the correct angle. That way there isn't much sanding to
    be done.
    
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    Regarding built up tail:
    Light is good!
    
    Regarding Kadet MkII:
    That was my first power plane. It's rugged. The wing is as strong as
    they come. I tested it several times. The stab is fully sheeted built
    up, also quite strong. Fuse is solid sheeting. There's lots of sanding
    to be done around the nose area, but again, it's STRONG.
    
    Problem: all that strength comes at a cost. It's a bit heavy. Mine flew
    fine, but I've flown other trainers since then that were much lighter
    and didn't land quite so hot. If you're learning on the power plane,
    another possibility is the Kadet Seniorita. It's mostly sticks, very
    light, MUCH more forgiving. The Midwest Aerostar is another popular
    trainer that flies quite well.
    
    Just my opinion...
    
    Dave
    
1454.4better late than never.HANNAH::REITHJim HANNAH:: Reith DSG1/2E6 235-8039Mon Sep 14 1992 11:4810
The monocoat hinges work fine. After trying several types, I've gone back to 
that style on my 4.5 pound, 121" Alcyone. They work well.

Radio: go the extra $20 and get the FM system. You might want to consider 6ch 
now before you actually need it. That way you can use the radio longer into 
the future. Again, most of this is covered in the beginner topics pointed to 
by the directories in 11.*

dir/title=begin 11.* will get you the ones to start with (keywords are your 
friend 8^)
1454.5Trainer AdviceLEDS::WATTWed Sep 16 1992 11:5915
    I can think of several trainers that are better than the Kadet MkII.
    
    
    	Midwest Aerostar - excellent kit good flyer
    
    	Goldberg Eagle II - excellent kit - very light - good flyer
    
    Both are 40 size planes with excellent building instructions.  I would
    recommend the OS40FP for your first engine.  It's simple and reliable.
    
    Join a club before you go too far.  Clubs are a great source of advice
    and instruction is a must!
    
    Charlie
    
1454.6Try the Telemaster 40POLAR::SIBILLEThu Sep 17 1992 08:3220
    As a power trainer I used the Telemaster 40. I whas very pleased with
    it. It is very responsive and yet so easy to fly. You can add flaps to
    it which is really great for slow flying. Mine took a lot of punisment
    the last two years.
    
    To show you how well the plane fly's check this: I whas flying low
    trying to stay about 6 inches above high weeds when they decided to
    grab my plane. The right wing touch the weeds. I manage to get the
    plane up, It would not turn right anymore as I had to get all controls
    on the right just to keep it straight. Also the plane looked kind of
    funny. Well comming back for a landing on the field whas out of the
    question so I gently turn left into so very high weeds and gently
    landed the plane there. When we got it we saw what had happen. the wing
    whas turn 30 degrees with the body and all elastic band from one side
    where gone which made the body dangling from the wing. The flaps where
    jam by the body so that one whas down and the other straight. I still
    wonder today how the plane manage to stay in flight because it whas
    surely not my skills.
    
    Jacques