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| 1260.1 | CHECK WITH BOB HOLMAN..... | UPWARD::CASEYA | THE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8) 551-5572 | Thu Oct 25 1990 11:02 | 18 |
| Re: .-1, Jerry,
Yeah, I hear you regarding the price of the Proctor Albatros kit. The
kit contains a LOT of value, i.e. all the scale detailing parts for
engine, guns, etc. but it's still tough to shell out that much dinero
at one shot.
The best thing I can suggest is to check with Bob Holman'a plan service...
he carries hundreds of 'em and I'd be amazed if he didn't have
something on the DV-A. I don't have anything here with Bob's address/
phone number but I know several noters have his catalogs and can supply
same. How 'bout it, Kay....??
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| 1260.2 | Another place to check | ZENDIA::REITH | Jim Reith DTN 226-6102 - LTN2-1/F02 | Thu Oct 25 1990 11:44 | 1 |
| Check a Cleveland plan catalog also
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| 1260.3 | CLEVELAND GREAT RUBBER MODELS BUT....... | UPWARD::CASEYA | THE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8) 551-5572 | Thu Oct 25 1990 12:27 | 32 |
| Re: .-1,
Onliest problem with Cleveland is they were/are stick-type construction,
tissue covered and intended for rubber or 1/2A gas power. They were
primarily free flight designs (modifiable to U-control) and, as such,
were lightly built and either compromised scale outline and/or omitted
detail so as to make them more flyable.
Cleveland kits were the state-of-the-art for flying scale in their day
but are not that adaptable to today's RC application. They tend to be
too small and require substantial beefing up...the end result remaining
a model of somewhat less scale integrity than is normal nowadays. Ask
Bruce Bretschneider about his project trying to RC a Cleveland design...
I think Bruce'll concede that starting from scratch might've been less
work.
By all means have a look at Cleveland but I think you'll get more what
you're seeking from Holman's catalog. All his plans were designed
specifically for RC and, in many cases, Bob has accessories available.
Also, Bob can blow the plan up for you if you'd like it larger than the
original design. A caveat here, I doubt _anyone_ sells a kit or plans
with better fidelity to scale than Proctor; no doubt some concessions
to airfoil and/or stab area will have been made but, unless you plan to
seriously compete the model, it'll look just fine. As my buddy, DAn'l
Parsons is fond of saying, "You'll never tell the difference looking at
it in a low pass at 75mph from the back of a galloping horse."
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| 1260.4 | ATTN: MR. MODERATOR....! | UPWARD::CASEYA | THE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8) 551-5572 | Thu Oct 25 1990 12:31 | 8 |
| Alton, perhaps this entire topic should be moved to the scale topic,
271.* - what'cha think.....??
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| 1260.5 | | SA1794::TENEROWICZT | | Thu Oct 25 1990 13:18 | 4 |
| I know that Holman and Scale model research list plans for this
aircraft.
Tom
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| 1260.6 | So far so good. | SVCRUS::EVERS | | Thu Oct 25 1990 13:19 | 13 |
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As Al pointed out I am looking for the plan for the DV-A. One
of my friends here at PKO has a Cleveland catalog dated 1987.
The only problem is they don't carry a 1/4 scale plan. So Im
going to order a new catalog to see if anything has change except
prices which probably have. If anyone has an address or phone number
of the company Al was talking about I'd appreciate it. Also if
Mr. Moderator wishes to move this topic it is all right by me I
wasn't sure if it should have gone in any specific topic.
Thanx
Jerry Evers
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| 1260.7 | What is a Stropp? | KAY::FISHER | Stop and smell the balsa. | Thu Oct 25 1990 13:23 | 55 |
| > OK guys, I'm in search of a set of plans and or a kit of a
> WWI Albatrose. I have check out the kit from Proctor but the
> wallet can't swing that kind of cash in one hit. So I think
Jerry - plans are available from
Scale Plans and Photo Service
3209 Madison Avenue
Greensboro, North Carolina 27403
(919)292-5239
They also have 3 different sets of documentation pictures
available.
71" Span Albatros D5a (1917) 1/5 scale $27.00
89" Span 1/4 scale $35.00
Page 9 of his catalogue
I couldn't find one in the Holman catalogue but
He has several unrelated catalogues and I
don't have them all at work.
but call and ask - he is at
Bob Holman Plans
P.O. Box 741
San Bernardino, CA 92402
(714)885-3595
Also Scale Model Research has 4 different sets of
documentation pictures available at
Scale Model Research
2334 Ticonderoga Way
Costa Mesa, CA 92626
(714)979-8058
Now for some free advice - no doubt worth just what you paid for it.
1. Tom Tenerowicz says "Never build anything you can get in kit form".
If you think you will save money - look at my BJ note and you will
see that in the long run the Proctor kit is cheap.
2. Get the plans catalogues first ("Bob Holman's" and "Scale Plans and
Photo Service"). You may change your mind and decide to build a different
airplane.
3. Get the documentation before the plans or kit. Be sure you can find
a color scheme that you can document and that you will like.
Bye --+--
Kay R. Fisher |
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| 1260.8 | How about Proctor | LEDS::WATT | | Wed Oct 31 1990 13:27 | 10 |
| Jerry,
I've seen the Proctor kit and the 10 foot plans - very detailed! I
know you can buy an extra set of plans with the kit for something like
$50, so maybe you could get those plans. Tom Kozewski (sp wrong for
sure) in the CMRCM has the Proctor kit. I'll bet you could get him to
order a set of plans for you if they require that you've bought a kit.
Charlie
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| 1260.9 | Proctor sells plans to anyone | AKRON::RATASKI | Veni, Vidi, Vomui | Thu Nov 01 1990 10:45 | 12 |
| re:-.1
Anyone can buy plans for any of the Proctor kits. They have them all
listed in the last catalog I got from them.
I have been toying with the idea of buying a set of plans for the
D5a myself.
If you need prices, I can post them tonight or tomorrow.
Let me know.
-TomR-
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| 1260.10 | I use the term "SCALE"lightly | SVCRUS::EVERS | | Thu Nov 01 1990 15:18 | 17 |
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Charlie I know Tom and I've been to his house and saw the kit,
that is why I'd like to build. The kit is excellent but like I
said before it is a little out of my price range. The kit is so
detailed the wing ribs are even built to scale. Thats another
reason I don't want the kit because after you cover the wings
who's going to know wether they are scale or not. I'm not THAT
picky went it comes to scale. I think that's why the kit costs
so much because every piece in the kit is scale. I would like
to compete in a scale competion but for a first timer I'd want
it to look scale rather than it being built to an exact replica.
To the gentleman in reply 9 could you post the address of
Proctor Co. just so it's there if anyone else needs it.
Thanx
Jerry Evers
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