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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

953.0. "frequency pins via Postscript" by --UnknownUser-- () Mon Apr 10 1989 10:23

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953.3Easy CRRC Pins that look GREATROCK::MINERElectric = No more glow-glopTue Apr 11 1989 16:41141
>                Now for the  really, really serious stuff.  You will have
>        to bring a CRRC  regulation frequency pin. 
        
    If you have a PostScript printer, here's a real easy way to get an
    official size, NICE looking, CRRC frequency pin:

    1) Extract this note:      Notes> extract CRRC_PIN.PS 

    2) Edit the file CRRC_PIN.PS with your favorite editor; 

        - remove all lines up to and including the "Cut-Here" line
        - change my name and AMA number to match yours  (Do _NOT_
            remove the "( )" characters around your name & AMA #)

    3) Exit your editor and print the file to a PostScript printer.

    4) Cut out the appropriate channels and using clear packing tape,
        tape the paper pin to a piece of 1/16" plywood (or 1/8" balsa).

    5) Glue a clothes pin to the back so the "clamp" part points away
        from the end with your channel number on it.

                       _____
                      |     \
                      |      \                          Silent POWER!
      _        ___________    _________   |            Happy Landings!
     | \      |           |  |         |  |
     |--------|-  SANYO  + ]-|  ASTRO  |--|              - Dan Miner
     |_/      |___________|  |_________|  |
                      |       /           |     " The Earth needs more OZONE,
                      |      /                       not Caster Oil!! "    
                      |_____/

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%  (Cut-Here) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%!PS-Adobe-1.0
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
% Frequency pins for CRRC club
%  Change the following two lines for your name and AMA number...
%  (And NOTHING else...)
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
/name (Daniel Miner) def        % Do NOT remove "( )" characters!!!
/ama  (AMA 227070) def          % Do NOT remove "( )" characters!!!
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%
/inch {72 mul} def
/box_width     5.0  inch def
/box_height    1.0  inch def
/name_typesize 0.3  inch def
/chan_typesize 1.14 inch def
/chan_width    1.0  inch def
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/chan_y 0.1 inch  def
/name_y box_height name_typesize 2 mul sub 3 div  def
/name_x box_width chan_width 2 mul sub  def
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/leftnum
{   /Helvetica-Bold findfont chan_typesize scalefont setfont
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        chan_y moveto show
    dup stringwidth pop chan_width exch sub 2 div chan_width add 
        chan_y moveto show

    /Helvetica-Bold findfont name_typesize scalefont setfont
    name dup stringwidth pop name_x exch sub 2 div chan_width 2 mul add 
        name_y 2 mul name_typesize add moveto show
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        name_y moveto show

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953.5NeatoLEDS::WATTWed Apr 12 1989 09:086
    These numbers are not for the transmitter, they are for a pin that goes
    on the frequency board.  The AMA doesn't specify size on these.
    Dan, these are great. Now I have to learn what a postscript printer is.
    
    Charlie
    
953.6other fonts ?ESASE::CULLENWed Apr 12 1989 09:489
    Hi,
    
    These look great !! Is there a font that is similar to the designations
    put on mil / commercial aircraft - the straight edged / corners
    cut off type ? 
    
    Regards,
    
    Eric();
953.8try this for sizeESASE::CULLENWed Apr 12 1989 11:207
    I got it work with ...
    
    print/queue=ln03r$post/notify filename.ps /form=lps$ln03r$form
    
    Regards,
    
    Eric();
953.10Wrong topic again, but...ROCK::MINERElectric = No more glow-glopWed Apr 12 1989 15:2054
RE: .4

    As Charlie said in .5, Yes, they are for the freq. board and that is
    why some numbers are on the left and some are on the right. 
    (Numbers on the left are for pins that clip on the left side of the
    board, etc.)

RE: .5

    Charlie, if you want to become an official "PostScript hacker" go to
    a bookstore and buy the two books:

        "PostScript Language Tutorial and Cookbook"  and
        "PostScript Language Reference Manual" 

    both are published by Addison-Wesley and are written by Adobe
    Systems Inc. - the developers of PostScript.  Both of these books
    are very good.  (That is, if you want to learn PostScript.  :-)

RE: .6

    Eric C., there probably is a way to get the military-type font, but
    I don't know how.

RE: .7

    Dave, if you know the name of your LPS40 queue (for example
    ANSI_LPS40 or LPS40$ANSI where "LPS40" is the "node name" of the
    LPS40), try to do a   
        $ show queue *LPS40*
    Look for the queue name that has "PS" or "POST" or "POSTSCRIPT" in
    it.  (Or something similar...)  Then try:
        $ print/queue=(queue name from above)  filename.ps



    To everyone: Thanks for the compliments.  This is how I made my
    freq. pin over a year ago and I was not able to generate ANY
    interest in the CRRC club - where everyone else has made theirs by
    hand.  Gee, I guess people who work with computers everyday can
    appreciate this more, huh?  :-)  :-)

    I even offered to print one out for anyone that wanted one...

                       _____
                      |     \
                      |      \                          Silent POWER!
      _        ___________    _________   |            Happy Landings!
     | \      |           |  |         |  |
     |--------|-  SANYO  + ]-|  ASTRO  |--|              - Dan Miner
     |_/      |___________|  |_________|  |
                      |       /           |     " The Earth needs more OZONE,
                      |      /                       not Caster Oil!! "    
                      |_____/
953.24Postscript poopLEDS::COHENThu Apr 13 1989 14:1812
>RE: .6
>
>    Eric C., there probably is a way to get the military-type font, but
>    I don't know how.

    No, LPS40's and LN03's don't have such a font.  They are limited to a
    choice of, I believe, a Helvetica like font, a Times like font, and one
    or two others.  Postscript printers can usually have downline loadable
    fonts.  I don't believe that DEC has software to suport this ability.
    If you request a font in a PS file that doesn't exist, the printer
    will try and substitute what it believes to be a close approximation.
    Some times, the substitution is quite poor. 
953.25EXTRACT FREQ_PIN.COM and @FREQ_PIN Have FunEARRTH::ALLENMon Oct 09 1989 21:05112
$ READ/PROMPT="Name: " SYS$COMMAND NAME
$ READ/PROMPT="AMA Number: " SYS$COMMAND NUM
$ READ/PROMPT="Output File <FREQ_PIN.PS>: " SYS$COMMAND FILE
$ IF FILE .EQS. "" THEN $ FILE = "FREQ_PIN.PS"
$ COPY/NOLOG SYS$INPUT: 'FILE'
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$ OPEN/APPEND OUT 'FILE'
$ WRITE OUT "/name (''NAME') def"
$ WRITE OUT "/ama (''NUM') def"
$ CLOSE OUT
$ APPEND SYS$INPUT: 'FILE'
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/chan_width    1.0  inch def
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/name_y box_height name_typesize 2 mul sub 3 div  def
/name_x box_width chan_width 2 mul sub  def
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953.26CMRCM frequency control pinsRGB::MINERDan Miner, DTN:225-4015, HLO2-1/J12 (@ H11)Tue Apr 23 1991 16:05216
RE: Note 953.3 by ROCK::MINER

    At the request of Jim Rieth (note 1274.11), here is the newest
    version of the PostScript pin generating program.  This is the one
    that was used to generate the sample pins in the recent CMRCM
    newsletter.  Main improvements are more pins per page and the
    assoiated 2IM channel is added in small print.

    If you have a PostScript printer, here's a real easy way to get an
    official size, NICE looking, CMRCM frequency pin:

    1) Extract this note:      Notes> extract CMRCM_PIN.PS 

    2) Edit the file CMRCM_PIN.PS with your favorite editor; 

        - remove all lines up to and including the "Cut-Here" line
        - change my name and AMA number to match yours  (Do _NOT_
            remove the "( )" characters around your name & AMA #)

    3) Exit your editor and print the file to a PostScript printer.

    4) Cut out the appropriate channels and using clear packing tape,
        tape the paper pin to a piece of 1/16" plywood (or 1/8" balsa).

    5) Glue a clothes pin to the back so the "clamp" part points away
        from the end with your channel number on it.

                       _____
                      |     \
                      |      \                          Silent POWER!
      _        ___________    _________   |            Happy Landings!
     | \      |           |  |         |  |
     |--------|-  SANYO  + ]-|  ASTRO  |--|              - Dan Miner
     |_/      |___________|  |_________|  |
                      |       /           |     " The Earth needs more OZONE,
                      |      /                       not Caster Oil!! "    
                      |_____/

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%  (Cut-Here) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%!PS-Adobe-1.0
%
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% Frequency pins for CMRCM club
%   Ex:
%   /name (Daniel Miner) def
%   /ama  (AMA 227070) def
%
%  Change the following name and ama lines with your name and AMA number...
%  (And NOTHING else...)
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/ama  (AMA ______) def
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%
/inch {72 mul} def
/box_width     4.0  inch def
/box_height    1.0  inch def
/box_sep       0.05 inch def
/name_typesize 0.3  inch def
/chan_typesize 1.14 inch def
/ham_typesize  0.90 inch def
/chan_width    0.7  inch def
/margin        0.1  inch def
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/name_y box_height name_typesize 2 mul sub 3 div  def
/name_x box_width chan_width 2 mul sub  def
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/Helvetica-Bold findfont name_typesize scalefont setfont
/leftnamex box_width name stringwidth pop sub margin sub def
/leftnamey name_y 2 mul name_typesize add def
/leftamax box_width ama stringwidth pop sub margin sub def
/leftamay name_y def
/rightnamex margin def
/rightnamey name_y 2 mul name_typesize add def
/rightamax margin def
/rightamay name_y def

%
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/leftnum
{   /Helvetica-Bold findfont chan_typesize scalefont setfont
    exch dup stringwidth pop chan_width exch sub 2 div 
        chan_y moveto show
    dup stringwidth pop chan_width exch sub 2 div chan_width add 
        chan_y moveto show

    /Helvetica-Bold findfont name_typesize scalefont setfont
    leftnamex leftnamey moveto name show
    leftamax leftamay moveto ama show

    chan_width 2 mul margin add leftamay moveto show        % show 2IM channel

    nextbox
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{   /Helvetica-Bold findfont chan_typesize scalefont setfont
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    /Helvetica-Bold findfont name_typesize scalefont setfont
    rightnamex rightnamey moveto name show
    rightamax rightamay moveto ama show

    dup stringwidth pop box_width chan_width 2 mul margin add sub exch sub
        rightamay moveto show        % show 2IM channel

    nextbox
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    0 chan_typesize ham_typesize sub chan_y add 2 div moveto show

    /Helvetica-Bold findfont name_typesize 2 div scalefont setfont
    (MHz) show

    /Helvetica-Bold findfont name_typesize scalefont setfont
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953.27format questions?POBOX::KAPLOWSet the WAYBACK machine for 1982Tue Apr 23 1991 19:4212
        I just printed this out and have a couple questions. Forgive me if
        I've missed some of the deleted replies, or the groundwork behing
        this project.
        
        1) Is there some significance to the "left handed" versus "right
        handed" pins?
        
        2) Many pins are missing. Is this because you've customized it for
        your field rules, and eliminated the channels that have
        interference? Is there some other reason?
        
        Thanks
953.28Nice hack.ZENDIA::REITHJim Reith DTN 226-6102 - LTN2-1/F02Wed Apr 24 1991 08:469
    1) field sign has a left and right side P^)
    
    2) field rules disallow odd channels above 34 and the new even channels
    (I'm not as sure about this part)
    
    Thanks for the upgrade Dan. Nice, simple, easy to understand, Forth...
    I mean postscript. I was able to go to the bottom and create an entire
    sheet of pins for the two channels I own and avoid printing the two
    pages I don't use.
953.29Reasons for missing channelsRGB::MINERDan Miner, DTN:225-4015, HLO2-1/J12 (@ H11)Wed Apr 24 1991 11:0216
RE: Note 953.27 by POBOX::KAPLOW

    1) As Jim mentioned in -.1, this is because our freq. board is set
    up this way.  The non-obvious arrangement of frequencies is to help
    eliminate 3-IM.

    2) The pins that are missing are for 3 reasons:

     A) the odd channels above 34 are not allowed to accommodate anyone
        who may still have a wideband (silver sticker) Tx in that range.

     B) the channels above 56 are not allowed to reduce the complications
        of the 2-IM combinations they would cause.  See note 1274.10.

     C) at our field, we have TV channel 4 nearby and thus, can't use RC
        channels 20 and 21 for 2-IM reasons.  
953.31Frequency pins for ALL channelsRGB::MINERDan Miner, DTN:225-4015, HLO2-1/J12 (@ H11)Thu Apr 25 1991 11:07279
    Note 953.30 accidentally had the same program as the earlier note.  
    This note now contains the correct file.

    In .27, Bob implies that some people may have different field rules
    than the CMRCM has and may in fact be able to use all 50 of the new
    channels.  Sooooo... Here's a set of pins that include all 50 of the
    new channels (plus ham freq.).  All 2IM combinations are taken in to
    account also.  

    *******************************************************************
            NOTE: if you have a TV channel 4 transmitter in your
            area, channels 20 and 21 should be banned for RC use.
    *******************************************************************

    The choice of whether the pin points to the left or right is based
    on this frequency plan (to minimize 3-IM):

Station 1	Station 2	Station 3	Station 4

    11		    12		    13		    14		
    18		    17		    16		    15		
    19		    20		    21		    22		
    26		    25		    24		    23		
    27		    28		    29		    30		
    34		    33		    32		    31		
    35		    36		    37		    38		
    42		    41		    40		    39		
    43		    44		    45		    46		
    50		    49		    48		    47		
    51		    52		    53		    54		
    58		    57		    56		    55		
    59		    60		

    Where the boards for stations 1 and 3 are on the left; 2 and 4 are
    on the right.  Like this:


            +-----+         +-----+
            |     |         |     |
            |  1  |   Tx    |  2  |
            |     | Impound |     |
            +-----+   in    +-----+
            |     | Middle  |     |
            |  3  |         |  4  |
            |     |         |     |
            +-----+         +-----+


    If you have a PostScript printer, here's a real easy way to get an
    NICE looking, frequency pin:

    1) Extract this note:      Notes> extract ALL_PINS.PS 

    2) Edit the file ALL_PINS.PS with your favorite editor; 

        - remove all lines up to and including the "Cut-Here" line
        - change the "___" name and AMA number lines to match yours  
            (Do _NOT_ remove the "( )" characters around your name & AMA #)

    3) Exit your editor and print the file to a PostScript printer.

    4) Cut out the appropriate channels and using clear packing tape,
        tape the paper pin to a piece of 1/16" plywood (or 1/8" balsa).

    5) Glue a clothes pin to the back so the "clamp" part points away
        from the end with your channel number on it.

                       _____
                      |     \
                      |      \                          Silent POWER!
      _        ___________    _________   |            Happy Landings!
     | \      |           |  |         |  |
     |--------|-  SANYO  + ]-|  ASTRO  |--|              - Dan Miner
     |_/      |___________|  |_________|  |
                      |       /           |     " The Earth needs more OZONE,
                      |      /                       not Caster Oil!! "    
                      |_____/

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%!PS-Adobe-1.0
%
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% Frequency pins for CRRC club
%   Ex:
%   /name (Daniel Miner) def
%   /ama  (AMA 227070) def
%
%  Change the following name and ama lines with your name and AMA number...
%  (And NOTHING else...)
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
/name (____________) def
/ama  (AMA ______) def
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%
/inch {72 mul} def
/box_width     4.0  inch def
/box_height    1.0  inch def
/box_sep       0.05 inch def
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/ham_typesize  0.90 inch def
/chan_width    0.7  inch def
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/rightnamex margin def
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953.322-IM frequency board which allows all channels if no Attacks are presentHANNAH::REITHJim HANNAH:: Reith DSG1/2E6 235-8039Wed Jul 15 1992 12:1578
I started from the board in .31 and have come up with the following system to 
allow all channels when an Attack radio isn't in effect. I'd like some comments
before I submit this in about a week.

Here's a description of the problem and solution:

The Futaba Attack radio is susceptable to 2IM (as discussed in the Beginner 
Electric topic). This is a design defect that several clubs have worked around 
by combining channels on the same pin (channels 23 apart share a pin). This
disallows fliers 23 channels apart from flying together when an Attack is NOT
in use. The following is an attempt to allow this.

The double lines separate the channel blocks 23 apart that currently share a 
pin. The single lines separate individual channels. There will be an indicator
at the top of the board as to whether an Attack is in use and this will 
determine the grouping used by fliers. When an Attack is in use this indicator
will be set and only the double line groups will be allowed. This is the 
responsibility of the Attack flier and will hopefully discourage the use and 
buying of Attack radios without outright banning them (which was discussed).
When the indicator isn't set, channels 11 and 34 may fly together (the single
line separators are in effect). An Attack user needs to wait until only double
line groups are in use before taking the pin and setting the indicator. The
Attack pins will have an annotation on them so that it is clear when the 
indicator may be unset (in case multiple Attacks are active at a time). This 
will also give the Attack owners a little notoriety which may discourage use.
There is still the safety issue of a pager combining with an RC Tx 22.5 channels
away or the unfortunate field that has 2 local pagers 460kHz apart. ch20/21 may
be flown in the "No Attack" mode in the TV4 area!

Once this is finalized I intend to modify the pins at the end of .31 to reflect 
the new left/right configurations, a Station number and Attack indicator.

Station 1	Station 2	Station 3	Station 4

==========================================================
    11		    12		    13		    14		
----------------------------------------------------------
    34		    35		    36		    37
----------------------------------------------------------
    57		    58		    59		    60
==========================================================
    18		    17		    16		    15		
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    41		    40		    39		    38
==========================================================
    19		    20		    21		    22		
----------------------------------------------------------
    42		    43		    44		    45
==========================================================
    26		    25		    24		    23		
----------------------------------------------------------
    49		    48		    47		    46
==========================================================
    27		    28		    29		    30		
----------------------------------------------------------
    50		    51		    52		    53
==========================================================
		    33		    32		    31		
----------------------------------------------------------
		    56		    55		    54
==========================================================
    Ham		    Ham		    Ham		    Ham
==========================================================

    Where the boards for stations 1 and 3 are on the left; 2 and 4 are
    on the right.  Like this:


            +-----+         +-----+
            |     |         |     |
            |  1  |   Tx    |  2  |
            |     | Impound |     |
            +-----+   in    +-----+
            |     | Middle  |     |
            |  3  |         |  4  |
            |     |         |     |
            +-----+         +-----+

953.33More than just Attack radiosRGB::MINERDan Miner, DTN:225-4015, HLO2-1/J12 (@ H11)Wed Jul 15 1992 14:2122
    Jim,

    It is NOT sufficient to force the 2-IM combos ("double line" mode)
    for Attack radios only.  Anyone with older receivers that are single
    conversion will also be effected.

    Since most R/C fliers have no clue if they are flying with 2-IM
    resistant receivers or not, I suggest having the double-line mode in
    effect at all times.  

    If people complain, tell them to write the AMA and have them change
    their rules to ban all receivers that are not resistant to the 2-IM
    mode of interference...

    If you go ahead with the "single / double converstion" mode receiver
    pin, someone will mis-understand and screw it up...  It's too easy
    to be confused with "Sometimes you can fly 11 and 34 together and
    sometimes you can't."  Just say you can never fly these together.

    That's my 2Hz.  :-)

                                - Dan M.
953.34AMA listed Rxs only (which should limit it to the Attack)HANNAH::REITHJim HANNAH:: Reith DSG1/2E6 235-8039Wed Jul 15 1992 14:3811
We're a narrow band only club these days so the Rx must be on the AMA (soon to 
be discontinued) list to be used. Anyone not conforming to that won't bother 
following the frequency board rules. I believe the Attack Rxs are the only ones
that give us 2IM problems off the AMA list. The other option is to ban the Attack 
totally. It will probably come to that soon. Pagers present too big a risk in 
this situation.


BTW: I noticed a couple of Attack radios at the Nats but didn't see anything 
special being done towards them. Did anyone else notice anything done to avoid 
2IM?
953.35No Restrictions at NatsLEDS::WATTThu Jul 16 1992 13:107
    All frequencies were in use at the Nats between all of the various
    events.  I did not see any restrictions.  We did have to sign a paper
    that said we were using a 1991 approved narrow band receiver.  The
    Attack AM would qualify for this in the eyes of the AMA.
    
    Charlie