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845.1 | Doing the Figawi? | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon May 23 1988 14:39 | 13 |
| What the heck, I'll start. Seems the question everybody that knows
the slightest bit about racing is asking this week is if we are
doing the FIGAWI? No.
Having done it three years in a row it seems to be a great way to
freeze your butt off while subsidizing the early season economy
in Nantucket while getting extremely drunk. Notice no mention of
sailing. That's because it simply is not that important.
Even Monhegan is better than FIGAWI.
Dave
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845.2 | Had to settle for the JFK regatta | GRAMPS::BAILEY | Summertime gonna come & go my oh my | Mon May 23 1988 17:20 | 33 |
| RE .1
> freeze your butt off while subsidizing the early season economy
> in Nantucket while getting extremely drunk.
I know people who think that's the DEFINITION of sailing.
Of course, the FIGAWI is so popular for just those reasons. And
it is popular. I know, we sent in our application almost two months
ago and were told they were BOOKED! I liked the clause about the
skipper being responsible for the actions of his (or her) crew. Must
be expecting some wild times, and who knows, maybe even a little SAILING!
Well, as I mentioned in a previous entry, the JFK regatta is this
week-end down in Boston. I for one am really psyched for psome
pserious psailing (well, psemi-pserious anyway) ...
On another note, I noticed the cut-off rating for A fleet this year
is 90. Anybody out there have any thoughts about how this is going
to affect tactics (i.e. fewer boats at the starting line, etc.).
I guess what it means is that production boats are a lot faster
than they used to be, or PHRF ratings have made it seem so.
I can remember when our boat, with an 84 rating, used to be the
scratch boat for most races. Now we're up near the cutoff point.
This means we'll be able to follow most of the A fleet around the
course, let *you* guys find the holes, and still have a shot at
doing well.
Best of luck to all, see ya on the starting line ...
... Bob
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845.3 | Maybe I'll go one-design | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon May 23 1988 18:21 | 16 |
| According to Jim Taylor, the class A is forecasted to be bigger
than ever even with the cutoff at 90. I applaud the change. At
60 it is bad enough having to give 30 seconds to the bottom of the
fleet. There is a new Taylor 40 in the class as well.
This is no place to start this discussion, but in general Marblehead
PHRF is not known for its rationality. You can bet that the Taylor
will not be severely penalized (Jim being on the committee). Nor
will any new boat Sailboats Northeast wants to push (Bump Wilcox
also being on the committee). Take for example the Express 34 last
year. Ridiculous.
Sorry.
Dave
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845.4 | FIGAWI is for fun, Block Island is for Racing | PALMER::PALMER | half a bubble off plumb | Tue May 24 1988 09:45 | 20 |
| The Hyannis Yacht Club limits the number of boats in the FIGAWI
to keep the people of Nantucket happy. There have been a few problems
the past few years with rowdy people, which is why the regulations
have stiffened up. I've got a few friends on the FIGAWI committee
and believe me it takes a lot of work to get this race off. Remember
that the FIGAWI Committee is non profit and all the profits go to
a local charity. The FIGAWI is named after the Indian god of
navigation often prayed to while lost ( Where the F**K are we! :^)
). If you're sailing in the FIGAWI, give a shout to the MAD MAX,
a gray J37.
If you got closed out of the FIGAWI you might want to consider
the reverse FIGAWI, jokingly referred to as the FIGAMI. It is after
Labor Day, runs the same course, but has fewer boats. The highlight
is the awarding of the Blasted Hope Award, to the sailor who has
pulled the biggest bone head stunt of the year.
Is anyone else sailing Block Island Regatta June 20-24? I'll
be crewing on the MAD MAX.
=Ralph=
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845.5 | ex | DELNI::FACHON | | Tue May 24 1988 10:24 | 25 |
| Didn't know about the class A cutoff change. Hope it does
bring more boats to the line. As for the vagaries of the
the PHRF, &%!!#*! I'm afraid to ask my skipper if our rating has
changed. See note 635 (I think) for some earlier discussions on
PHRF.
"Bodacious" will be at Block Island. We're anticipating a
HUGE J/35 fleet and some outstanding competition. Unfortunately,
we'll only have a few weekends worth of practice going into
the series, but fortunately, the crew is 100% repeat. The boats
coming over from Egg-head Town Race Week should be looking pretty
sharp. Anyone doing both? We'd love to, but there's only so
much vacation to go around, and so many races we want to do!
We're in the Monhegan again, but otherwise we're doing mostly
local buoy stuff until the J/35 regionnals, and hopefully nationals.
About the rep of the "FIGAWI," do a lot of IOR boats compete?
I mean, sounds to me like a typical grand-prix venue. Seriously.
I never saw such a bunch of racing/drinking fools as the "rock-stars"
in the SORC several years ago. Did I have some fun then. Of course,
I can't remember all that much, but...
;)
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845.6 | Ramblings | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue May 24 1988 12:50 | 31 |
| Re. Block Island. It takes place almost a month before Edgartown
Race Week (July 18-23) so everybody should be in about the level
of practice unless they have been doing some warm weather sailing
over the off season. Block this year is the Yachting magazine version
and heavily oriented towards one design offshore. Perfect for J-35s
and the like but no good for us. It really is a good time if the
weather holds.
Re. Figawi. The venue is definitely not "grand prix". That's not
to say some very hot boats aren't there (Matador, Pioneer, Buckaroo
etc.), but the average entry is just your normal, mortal club racer.
The weekend has the potential to be lots of fun but the weather
is always lousy focusing the action on the drinking tent which is
in the only industrial area of the island.
Re. class A. What do J-35s rate in PHRF. I believe I heard that
the new cutoff puts them into class B. Is that right?
Re. Edgartown Race Week. The difference between E-town and Block
is enormous. There are many more official post race activities
at Block and the E-town Yacht Club has the reputation (well deserved)
for being as friendly as an IBM executive at Decworld. However,
the weather and the venue have a lot over Block. Also if you're
into distance there is a 'round the island that goes over night.
Our crew got together one snowy January night and voted to do E-town
and not Block, but if I had a one-design Block would definitely
win out.
Dave
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845.7 | J/35's definitely an A boat... | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Tue May 24 1988 15:03 | 10 |
| What do J/35's rate?? Even I can answer that one, last year they
rated 72 in Marblehead. Maybe Dean should get on that committee
you were talking about. Bodacious is definitely an A boat. I know,
we spend a lot of time looking at her stern last year as she was
sailing off into the horizon. Almost caught up with her in the
Berringer though, till the wind died. Ah well, thems the breaks.
... Bob
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845.8 | And they're off!!! | DELNI::FACHON | | Tue May 24 1988 16:11 | 18 |
| I could have sworn I saw E-town scheduled for June, but
July makes much more sense. And you're right
about the on-shore events, but then there is plenty of
raw material to make your own fun.
Yep, we rated 72. With a cut off at 90, class A will be
huge. No? We'll be seeing some much longer starting lines -- I
hope. Larger fleets will put a real premium on starting
tactics. Should also make for more intersting work on the course.
If anyone's out practicing off Mblehead this weekend, we'll
be out there too. Give us a holler if you want to do some
sparring.
;)
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845.9 | Tilting at windmills | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue May 24 1988 16:57 | 12 |
| We'll be out practicing this weekend. Serious practice on Saturday,
drinking practice on Sunday 8^). However, given the sorry state
of our crew, our blown out sails, our orange peel bottom, and our
ridiculous rating, I don't know why we bother. Hell, any j-24 should
be able to kick our butts.
Please pass this information on to the rating committee.
Dave
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845.10 | What about the rest of the competition ?? | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Tue May 24 1988 21:20 | 26 |
| Well, howzabout sizing up some of the rest of the competition?
For instance, what do you guys think about KLADDAGH's showing last
year? If I remember correctly, those guys had a 77 rating last
year, and they kicked *ss a few times against boats with much lower
ratings. Those guys seem to have more chutes on that boat, and
they seemed to make good use of them as the season went on. Don't
know anything about this boat or it's crew, except that they impressed
me toward the end of the season. I can remember one race, I think
it was in the Manchester fall series, when nobody else in fleet
was carrying a chute, but they were. Seemed to have the thing nailed
to the rail, and they were pulling away from JAZZ, which if I'm
not mistaken, has a rating somewhere in the low 60's. So what's
the secret? Surely they don't have somebody on the committee giving
them a little help with the PHRF rating, do they ???
And what about the Soverel 33's. Last year their rating dropped
from 90 to 84. They didn't clean up like the year before but they
still did pretty well. The high point of our season I thought was
beating AMBUSH across the line in the Berringer. The skipper seemed
real P.O.'d as they crossed the finish line only to see us sitting
there eating breakfast and wishing them a good morning. Really,
some people don't have ANY sense of humor ... maybe they'll be trying
to get that rating raised again this year.
... Bob
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845.11 | '87's big "hitters" ;) | DELNI::FACHON | | Wed May 25 1988 10:45 | 30 |
| Kladdagh is a good boat, and sailed pretty well most of the
time. Were it not for some ripped sails in a couple of races
last year, she might well have taken the overall championship.
Her rating does seem slightly too high, as we rarely have better
boat speed than her, and at 72 we ought to. Give them a 75 and
us a 74 and I'd feel comfortable.
Ambush. You like them too, huh? They sure ambushed us last
year -- "T-boned" on a Wednesday night race. We'd just as
soon ignore them, but I expect they'll mix things up fairly
often. Suffice it to say, I'm not impressed with their finesse.
The boat we most love to hate is Celeste. They were so pesky
the first part of the season, and I give them credit for sailing
some smart races. Unfortunately for us, a new main arrived a few
races too late to offset the aces they were flying. By the end
of the season, though, we had our good stuff. I remember one
episode that was particularly amusing -- without meaning to, we
found ourselves in a position where we were driving them away from
the starting line. We wouldn't let them move an inch either way.
They were fuming -- plenty of explitive deleted kind of stuff.
We ended up spinning a few seconds late, but they were 10 seconds behind
that and got buried where we got clean air and smoked away.
The next race they came after us BEFORE the 10-minute gun and
luffed us up! We really had a good chuckle over that.
They never recovered. Too bad. ;) I look for them to be real
tough again this year; they're already sailing, and they'll come
out the blocks fast. And all kidding aside, we enjoy sailing
against them.
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845.12 | The Goose is loose! | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Wed May 25 1988 10:47 | 13 |
| We never worry too much about Claddagh (Gladbag, Clad-dog). True,
they did better last year than in the past. One fall series race
they tried to carry a chute when nobody else did and ended up leaving
skid marks all over the ocean. They were totally out of control.
The boat to worry about is Loose Goose. They are good sailors and
just got a rating change from 69 to 72! A C&C 41 @ 72!
These sort of discussions get me all worked up. Maybe I'l take
up a less stressful sport like chainsaw juggling.
Dave (of the garbage scow Fat Tuesday)
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845.13 | | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Wed May 25 1988 13:54 | 43 |
| RE .11
Celeste used to be one of our favorite competitors, before we lost
most of our "experienced" crew and got a new main that refused to
look anything like an airfoil. Well, we've supposedly fixed both
problems for this season and look forward to some good one-on-ones
with those guys again. Actually, there's almost enough J/36's out
there for a one-design race nowadays. It should be a lot of fun.
Incidentally, your observation about fixing ratings to sell boats
is a correct one. WAGS was the first J/36 to come north of the
Cape, and it's rating that first year was 102. And Skip White came
north with the boat to win some races, just so they could line
up a few more sales. Of course, it got a little tougher the next
year, when the rating dropped to it's present 84. But by then they'd
made their point.
RE .12
Loose Goose at 72 ??? Holy schlamoly batman, who do THEY know?
Those guys should be unbeatable with a rating like that, ESPECIALLY
because they DO know what they're doing.
Yeah, some of the fall races last year were real hum-dingers. And
just about everybody had trouble carrying their chutes. Saw a couple
of real expensive sails get burst to smithereens, fortunately not
on our boat. But last year we didn't have the crew to carry our
chute sometimes when we should have been able to.
I like the nicknames. We've got some for the racing boats in our club
too. Like SLICKBREEZE (Suckbreath), WHIPLASH (Snideley), VAPOR TRAIL
(Vapor Lock), and Campbell's Sloop (yup, Campbell's Slop). And I
won't mention what we call Eighty-Six, but it's a number. The crew
will get a kick out of Glad-bag.
Won't even talk about some of the nicknames I've heard for WAGS.
But it's been mentioned that it has something to do with the way
we steer the course. Hey, a little humor goes a long way sometimes
amid all that seriousness out there. It's supposed to be FUN, after
all, right?
... Bob
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845.14 | | MILVAX::HO | | Wed May 25 1988 14:21 | 8 |
| A few nicknames of boats I've sailed on.
Voyager Voyeur
Touche Tushy
Syzygy Ah, er...ssss...zzz...ahem... sail number 4746389
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845.15 | | DELNI::FACHON | | Wed May 25 1988 14:40 | 26 |
| GOOSE AT 72??!!! They win.
I think I'll call Jon and let him know he can cancel the sails.
That's unbelievable. Absolutely. Goose is ALWAYS faster
than us. If she does enough races she's got our butt
kicked (well, maybe we'll still put up a fight, but..;).
I haven't seen the rating sheet yet, does anyone know if
Bodacious was bumped? I half expect them to give us a 70.
Sounds like death by bunda to me.
Dean
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845.16 | The good ship Raging Queen | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Wed May 25 1988 14:53 | 20 |
| Yup. The Goose got 72. Funny thing, I was talking to her owner the
other day and his comment was that most poeple were saying that
was what they should have been all the time! He's a good guy but
has a little imagination. We owe them 12 seconds/mi. Over twenty
miles that is 4 minutes! All we can do is try.
Speaking of nicknames, when we brought our boat up from New Orleans
it was named Detente. There is a story behind that that applied
to the previous owner, but not to us. So we decided to rename it.
There is a sister ship named Creole Lady so we thought of calling
her Cajun Queen. That idea was quickly killed when reminded of
the old Saturday Night Live skit about a ship of homosexuals called
the Raging Queen. Too close for comfort! So Fat Tuesday it is.
One name I've heard for us is Fat Chance. I' sure there are others.
One scheduling question. Are the PHRF New Englands and the Chandler
Hovey the same race this year?
Dave
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845.17 | I believe they've been combined ... | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Wed May 25 1988 15:51 | 22 |
| RE .16
Dave,
I do believe the Chandler Hovey and the PHRF N.E. Championships
are indeed the same race this year. In fact, weren't they also
the same race last year ?? (with the season we had we didn't do it).
From what my skipper told us earlier this year they decided to combine
them last year (I believe this was hosted by Cottage Park).
Looking at the YRUMB schedule it sure looks that way. And who's
hosting anyway, the schedule simply says MBHD, which I assume stands
for Marblehead. Fine, better than Scituate two years ago, that
was one of the most pathetically run regattas I've ever been to.
Hopefully we'll be there, but we're doing the N.O.O.D. race in Newport
the previous week, and may decide to spend a few days and take the
long way home.
... Bob
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845.18 | The old goose still gets the tin | PALMER::PALMER | half a bubble off plumb | Thu May 26 1988 09:36 | 19 |
|
RE: Loose Goose
Is this the Loose Goose that is sailed out of Hyannis Yacht
Club, owned by Scott & Rick McKensey? It blue-green in color
with name painted down the side in red.
The Loose Goose I'm thinking of have done quite well over the
years, especially at Edgertown. The reason the rating was changed
is that it is an OLD boat. I believe the rating system has a provision
for 'old age discounts'.
You bet they know what their doing, Scott is one hell of a sailor
(and a nice guy). I took three years of racing lessons from him
when he was an instructor at the Lewis Bay Yacht Club. The 'Goose
still manages to do great even though it is sporting some fairly
old 'rags.
I like to see the 'Goose bring the tin to the HYC, my home club.
Especially now that he is not in our division :^)
=Ralph=
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845.19 | Cooking the wrong goose | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Thu May 26 1988 10:01 | 11 |
| No, that is the wrong goose. That boat used to belong to the same
guy (Mike Fregard). The goose I'm talking is Mike's newer boat,
a C&C 41 out of Marblehead. The goose you mention does the Figawi
each year too. It's an old Bob Evelyn design. He does do well.
The point is that now that IOR is all but dead locally, and IMS
has yet to fill any void, the only game in town is PHRF and the
boys who run the ratings locally seem determined to kill this too.
Dave
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845.20 | The "Goose" was cooking all right ... | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Tue May 31 1988 08:25 | 10 |
| Well, true to prediction, guess who won A fleet honors at the JFK
regatta. I met Mike Fregard over at the JFK library just before
the skippers meeting. Seems he knows one of our new crew members.
All I can say is he seems like an uncommonly nice guy as skippers
out of the Marblehead fleet go. So I congratulate him on a well
sailed regatta.
... Bob
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845.21 | | DELNI::FACHON | | Tue May 31 1988 09:18 | 12 |
| .8 correction: 90 cutoff is lower, but evidently there
are a few new boats that will make the class A cut, so "they"
decided to give B some new blood.
Saw "Fat Tuesday" on Saturday. We were rig tuning as you
guys zoomed by about 400 yards to weather of of us. A bit too
far to holler over.
Sunday was some day! I could race in conditions like that
all year. We hit the line for the first time next Sunday.
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845.22 | JFK is turning in his grave !! | LEDS::LAMOUREUX | | Tue May 31 1988 10:35 | 27 |
| I'm a Narragansett Bay/Long Island/Block Island sailor who guest
crewed this weekend on my favorite part-time boat Jasmine. It's
a Wiggers 38 with a lot of class. Anyway, I just did the JFK
regatta and I hope that this is not what racing in Massachusetts
is all about !!! The courses for the two days were horendous !!!!
Day 1 consisted of 2 miles upwind and then a huge parade THROUGH
the islands of Boston Harbor. I guess the race committee's brother
owns the salvage operation in the Harbor! That leg was followed
by a jibe-takedown-reaching leg to the "leeward mark" where we turned
and fetched the finish in a dying breeze !!! Day 2 saw more promise
as they sent us on what would have been a 7 mile windward leg. (Guess
they heard us bitchin' the night before) Unfortunately, they obviously
didn't watch/listen to the weather predictions which accurately
predicted a low system to swing in and send the breeze clocking
180 degrees. So instead of a tactical long weather leg, it was
one tack and fetch the mark (7 miles away !!) Our helsman's head
is now permanently titled to port looking upward at telltales !!
On PHRF : Being on the Narragansett ratings committee, I thought
Narragansett had the worst reputation for puttin' in the fix !!
However, after watching us get slapped 3 seconds at the last minute
and then seeing a C&C 41 take the gold with a 72(!) I think the
PHRF team up here has claimed the booby prize.
Oh well, maybe next time ...
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845.23 | Ouch | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue May 31 1988 11:42 | 23 |
| So, now you see the impact of our great rating committee! Spoke
to Mike (Loose Goose) yesterday and they were pretty happy about
JFK. There is definitely something wrong. No hard feelings toward
Mike at all. Heck, I'd take that gift too!
Re: The reaching courses. Always a complaint up here. Boston harbor
is also not the best place to race boats. We've bumped too many
times there.
Re: Mr. Fachon. Sorry, never saw you. We had a fairly serious
injury on board and may have been busy tending to that. Our trimmer
got lazy and hung his left leg out across the genny car track and
propped his foot on a stanchion. The coarse adjustment line on
the genny car blew out of its cleat. We had a no. 2 up hard on
the wind. The car shot back along the track right into his lower
leg. We were quite sure it was broken but subsequent x-rays showed
only a deep bruise and possible chip. The guy was really in pain
and mild shock. Forces like that are not to be messed with!
Next Sunday, be there, aloha!
Dave
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845.24 | On the nose | DELNI::FACHON | | Tue May 31 1988 11:48 | 9 |
| re .22
Yep, we get a lot of courses with minimal windward work.
This is a chronic problem. All we can do is keep
telling the RCs to get there act together.
What do C&C 41s rate on the Bay? At 72 around here, there
sure won't be many passing lanes.
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845.25 | Everybody likes a parade on Memorial Day ... | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Tue May 31 1988 14:28 | 36 |
| RE .22
Whatsamatter, don't you like a parade? It was Memorial Day after
all.
I agree Saturday's course wasn't much of a race for the tacticians,
but I don't blame the committee for setting a bad course on Sunday.
First of all, when was the last time NOAA predicted wind conditions
accurately? Certainly their batting average is well below .500, so
I don't blame the committee for not believing them. Secondly, the
wind started clocking around after the 5 minute gun went off, and
we all know you can't change the course after that. So we were
stuck with what we got.
Also, my experience in reach-around races is that boats with higher
PHRF ratings usually make out, since you really need a beat to live
up to your rating. And the lower your rating the more of a problem
you have making enough time to win corrected. So this sort of a
course should have favored the boats at the high end of the fleet,
of which JASMINE was one. (Incidentally, it was fun finally meeting
you guys on the course ... real nice boat).
I also think that a C & C 41 deserves a lower rating than 72, but
who wouldn't take a favorable rating if offered one. And this was
a race course which I believe minimized the impact of that favorable
rating. So give the crew of LOOSE GOOSE VI a little credit for
sailing a good race. The course didn't favor them any more than any
of the rest of us.
Incidentally, I don't know about JFK turning in his grave, but I
bet EMK was a little P.O.ed that nobody stopped talking while he
was trying to give his little speech at the reception Friday night.
Man, the acoustics in that place are AWESOME!
... Bob
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845.26 | Do style points count? | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Jun 01 1988 10:14 | 11 |
| Bob, you bring up a very interesting point. Mike, the owner of
Goose is indeed a VERY good sailor. He's been sailing local waters
for many, many years. The question I have is, should PHRF ratings
take into account the skill of the skipper? My first reaction is
that the answer is no, and that would be consistent with Mike's
rating change. However, appeals are made to the committee based
upon performance and that would seem to be dependent on skipper
and crew. Just a thought.
Dave
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845.27 | See earlier note... | DELNI::FACHON | | Wed Jun 01 1988 10:26 | 7 |
| Dave, see note 635 (or so) for discussion on
PHRF. From the comments there, it's seems
that skipper/crew performance are indeed factored into
the rating.
Dean
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845.28 | What you know should count, who you know shouldn't | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Wed Jun 01 1988 13:19 | 19 |
| What considerations are used in the Marblehead Wednesday night series?
Our boat hasn't done this series since I've been sailing on it,
but I hear you get penalized for winning too often. How does that
work out? I know in the Jubilee Thursday night series the only
penalty for winning is that you get to sit out there and take everybody
else's times while the rest of the fleet heads to the club house
for drinks and a good time.
Seriously, though, I don't think you should be penalized for having
greater sailing skills/knowledge than the competition. Personally
I think if you did that there wouldn't be any incentive to increase
your skill set or knowledge of local waters. That would seem like
you're taking the sport out of it. On the other hand, PHRF ratings
do seem entirely too political from another perspective, namely
that if you want to make out, join the rating committee.
... Bob
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845.29 | Races and ratings and rides, oh my ... | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Jun 06 1988 08:19 | 23 |
| Got ahold of a YRUMB 1988 Yearbook this week-end and looked up the
Chandler Hovey race. It is definitely the same race as the PHRF
New England Championships. It's hosted by Eastern Yacht Club.
Also looked up some N.E. base handicaps for some boats discussed here.
The base N.E. rating for a C&C 41 is 72, unless it's a 1983 Limited
Edition, in which case it's 69. Doesn't seem like Loose Goose's
rating has anything to do with catching a break from the Marblehead
committee. Also, the base rating for Jasmine (Peterson/Wiggers
37) is 87, so you guys are catching a break down in Narragansett
Bay with a 93 rating (90 in the Boston area).
So, who raced yesterday? Wasn't it a great day for a sailboat race,
what with all that wind and all? Saw a couple of boats flying their
chutes like giant burgees off the top of their mast rounding one
of the marks, but we were too far behind the pack to make them out.
I know at least one of them dropped out of the race, but we were
a little busy at the mark, so I didn't have time to look over and
see who it was. What a ride though ... I just LOVE it when the
wind blows like that and you don't get rained on.
... Bob
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845.30 | A day at the races | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 06 1988 11:42 | 38 |
| Good thing you couldn't see it was us flying the worlds largest
burgee at the leeward mark the second time around. Yup, we lost
our chute just at the take down when a good size gust came up.
We recovered it though, and were not the boat to drop out. Didn't
help too much though.
Speaking of dropping out, the Goose had a tough day. First they
snagged a (I swear) Christmas tree (ornaments and all) in their
rudder. The they parted a halyard and then split their #3. Decided
karma was not in their corner and dropped out.
Two questions. First, we read the second mark as a "3" not an "8".
As we saw it the three had another three behind it facing the other
side and showing through to kind of make it look like an eight.
Three is off Manchester and eight is M'head bell. Big difference.
So off we go to Newcombs and all is well. We get to the mark first,
ahead of Cara, Arabella, Goose, Claddagh. We reach to Manchester
only to see everybody else harden up to M'head. Oh S---! Anyway,
some of the B and C class went to three also. Which was right?
Secondly, explain why we had to round Tinkers (the starting bouy)
to starboard the second time around. Cara took right off towards
Newcombs after rounding Pig Rocks leaving Tinkers to port by miles.
We were right behind her (having clawed back from our first
navigational fiasco) and started doing the same thing. Our crew
of MIT and Harvard collegiate sailors say we are doing the right
thing since we left it to port at the start. I see everybody going
to Tinkers and say I am tired of being the maverick and jibe over
to round it to starboard. I am now convinced they, my crew, and
Cara were right and I ( as well as most of the A fleet ) was wrong.
Anyway, a great day to work out the kinks.
Where the hell did Claddagh get that speed?
Dave
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845.31 | | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Jun 06 1988 13:49 | 52 |
| RE .30
Hi Dave,
I thought that might have been you guys, but as I said we were well
in back of the pack. Who was the second boat to lose it? From
where I was it looked like it might have been a J/35 (Dean, you
out there??). Incidentally, WAGS didn't race, I was on SLICKBREEZE
for this one. Lotsa rust to work out of that crew, but Tom Root
is a helluva good skipper to sail for, and after the race that J/36
turns into a floating delicatessen.
To answer your first question, it was an "8", but it was a funny
signal. It looked like they had taken either a "B" or a "3" signal
and used duct tape to make it look like an "8". The only reason
I'm sure of what it was is that were were about 20 feet from the
committee boat when the gun went off, having gone in close to ascertain
what the correct signal was. We were to "A" mark before my ears
stopped ringing.
In answer to your second question, I interpreted things such that
we were supposed to leave Tinkers to starboard, which we did. Most
of the fleet didn't bother though, and I only saw one protest flag
go up (AMBUSH, who else?). Didn't go back to M'head after the race
(why bother when you finish near the back of the fleet) so I don't
know how it turned out. But it wouldn't make sense to make it a
mark if you were going to leave it to port since you wouldn't have
to go anywhere near it. So I suspect you were right, though in
this case being right didn't help your standings it seems.
Incidentally, did you notice the finish BUMPA had in B fleet? They
finished ahead of about 4-5 A boats, and at least a mile and a half
ahead of the next B boat. They were the only boat I saw carrying
a chute on the last leg. But their skipper seems like a first-class
*sshole. Hollered over a congrats after the race and he responded by
rounding up and forcing us to tack (the race was OVER for christ
sakes!!). Almost spilled my beer getting to the jib sheets.
Whattaguy. Next time, I come prepared with WATER BALLOONS.
Now about CLADDAGH, see, I told ya. Those guys seemed to have figured
out how to make it go fast toward the end of last year. Don't seem
to have forgotten anything in the off season either.
Anybody doing the Scituate overnighter next week-end? I'll be down
there on SLICKBREEZE, and then back on WAGS for the Lambert race
on Sunday. See y'all on the starting line. I'm the big guy with
the beard and the Hawaiian print hat, usually in the cockpit. Holler
over and say HI if you're not too busy. Always happy to meet fellow
DECies.
... Bob
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845.32 | Glad Bumpa's in B fleet | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 06 1988 14:18 | 20 |
| The skipper on Bumpa is either John Collins (our local PHRF rater)
or if he had blond hair it was Bob (Bump) Wilcox, of Sailboats
Northeast which sells those Express 34's with the bogus rating.
If it is Collins (dark hair, portly) he is exactly as you say,
somewhere towards the bottom of the food chain.
Don't know how BYC is going to know who honored Tinkers rightly
or wrongly as they had no stake boat there. Typical.
No, we're not doing the Scituite race, staying local. Good luck
on Suckbr.., er, Slickbreeze!
You definitely were right on about Claddagh. Might be time for
some clandestine underbody work on her. Epoxy a lobster pot to
her keel or something.
Didn't see Bodacious out there and I looked, too.
Dave
|
845.33 | Better Late than never | LEDS::LAMOUREUX | | Mon Jun 06 1988 16:27 | 48 |
| Some final stuff on JFK race course etc. now that I have found the
write-enabled conference !!
re Loose Goose. I have heard from numerous sources that Loose Goose
IS well sailed and her performance in the JFK attested to that.
By the way, C&C's rate 66 in Narragansett with other boats having
the same rating as they do up here !?!?!
re: higher rating boats do better in reaching races !
I would love for this MYTH to finally end and I hope this will be
the summer it does. Lets start with a few assumptions. ASSUME that the
ratings committee have done a PERFECT job and assigned boat A a
60 PHRF rating and boat B a 90 rating. On a race course that is
nothing more than a reach-around, boat A and boat B should tie each
other on corrected time. The only variables introduced in such
a race are the ability of the helmsman and the lone genoa trimmer
to concentrate for 4 hours and any local wind patterns due to the
separation of the two boats. CREW WORK and TACTICS are eliminated
from the equation !!!! On a well organized boat such as Jasmine,
(I'm only a guest hand, the kudos are meant for the regulars)
this is her main weapon when racing at the bottom of the ratings
scale. So it is a myth to state that in a reach around race, the
boats at the bottom of the class have an advantage. Also, one
advantage the hot boats (60-75 PHRF) have in a good windward race
is that they point higher and therefore travel less distance. But
if both boat A and boat B tack in the same angles and boat B followed
boat A around the course, even in a 10 mile windward leg, they would
be "tied" at the weather mark. (This assumes of course, that robots
are sailing both boats and tack equally well.)
I guess my point is that when racing at 90 against boats at 60,
you need a race course that tests ALL of your weapons, including
boat handling as well as tactics. With a 30 sec/mile spread, you
KNOW you're going to be in different conditions over the race course.
(case in point : Loose Goose had Jasmine by 7 minutes at the "leeward"
mark but crossed the line 9 minutes ahead thanks to a dying breeze).
Oh well, I'll climb off the soapbox (for the last time). I've beat
this subject to death enough. But I'll honestly say that I'm tired
of being on the dock after a race when I crew on one of the higher
rating boats and have someone say "Well ya' did good cuz' it was
a reacher" or " what happened, this was your kinda race ""
AAAARRRRGH !!!!!
|
845.34 | | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Jun 06 1988 17:50 | 40 |
| RE .32
Yup, Collins was the guy. Like I said, hope he's not averse to
a few well placed water balloons next time I see him. Who knows,
just might wash some of the slime off.
Now ya got me thinking. I'm pretty sure I saw BODACIOUS on the
scratch sheet for the race, but I'm not sure I actually saw the
boat at the starting line. I saw you guys, but I was fairly busy
trying to learn a different deck layout and sails that I'm not used
to. So I didn't have a lot of time to look around.
RE .33
You're entitled to your opinion of course, but my experiences during
the last few years of racing what seem to be a lot of reach-around
courses support the "MYTH". Also, I've seen just as many races where
the wind fills in from behind the fleet or builds toward the end of
the race (like Sunday), which would seem to favor the boats toward
the back of the pack, as I have races where the wind dies at the
end of the race (like last Saturday during JFK). That's just the
capriciousness of ol' Ma Nature and nobody can really count on that
to support or disprove a theory one way or the other.
But I don't want to seem like I'm knocking the boat you sailed on,
especially since Tony's probably going to read this note, and I just
might want to bum a ride on JASMINE one of these days. You guys seem
like a fairly together crew, and it is a nice boat, and I appreciated
the congeniality of your skipper last week-end.
I just don't like people trying to flame the race committee
for where they end up in the standings when the race is over.
I feel for anybody trying to predict the wind even a few hours in
advance out in Mass. Bay. Sometimes we get lucky and things work
out for a fine race, and other times, well ... And besides as
you seem to indicate, a well trained crew can make up for a lot
of local politics as far as ratings go.
... Bob
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845.35 | What goes around, comes around | LEDS::LAMOUREUX | | Tue Jun 07 1988 10:36 | 54 |
|
re: .34
Obviously you missed my point. I realize the fickleness of Mother
Nature can either hurt you or help you. My point was that at the
"leeward" mark, we were exactly where we should have been, no better,
no worse. This time the dying breeze caught us. However, I was
saying that IF there was enough windward work, then tactics and
crew work may have put the boat close enough to the leaders to be
in the same air, which effectively neutralizes the Mother Nature
effect.
re: slamming the ratings committee
I reserve the right (rather pigheadedly) to slam any race committee
that sets up a course with only two miles of windward work and a reaching
leg THROUGH unknown islands. It only takes a little more effort
to take the time and make it challenging for everyone. Especially
for the guys who spent 12 hours delivering a boat from other areas
who want a little more than a test of their barber-hauling skills.
why couldn't they re-hoist their "LIMA" flag and move out another
2 miles ??
re: .25 < ..the wind shifted after the 5 minute gun and we all
know you can't change ...>
I have been in dozens of races where the race committee has signalled
postponement AT the starting gun !! As a matter of fact we were
expecting a postponement while they at least re-squared the line!!
Here my real point was not that the race committee should be god-like
and know exactly what the wind will do. BUT, if they had heard
that it MAY move considerably during the day, I felt that a seven
mile windward leg is just begging for trouble. Make it a shorter
triangle like course (using the gov't marks they had) and at the
first leeward mark, reset the next windward mark)
We should all demand excellance from every race committee and not
just take what they give us. The squeaky wheel may piss some people
off but I am interested in making it challenging for EVERYONE,
including the competition.
By the way....
I too have noticed that boats with higher ratings 'seem' to do well
in reach arounds. That is because the course has favored their
best point of sail. Which is exactly my point. A proper combination
of course legs neutralizes this advantage. I also resent the
implication that my bitchin' is due to where Jasmine happened to
finish in the JFK regatta. I am interested in the sport of sailboat
racing NOT Jasmine racing. My comments were intended to benefit
all. I hope you weren't suggesting that if Jasmine had done well
I shouldn't say anything about the course or the race committee?
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845.36 | Checking in... | SPIDER::FACHON | | Tue Jun 07 1988 11:38 | 21 |
| Hi guys. I'm transitioning to a new organization,
so things have been a bit hectic.
No, Bodacious was not on the course. We had
an injury which prevented racing -- skipper. Nothing
too serious, and we hope to be out next weekend.
We did sail on Sunday -- fell in with the fleet for a mile
or so on the second windward leg. It was honking. Actually
glad we didn't race -- too much wind for a skake-down, and we
still haven't gotten out for a full-crew practice. We've got
some catching up to do -- but we'll do it. ;)
About reaching legs, they do favor longer waterlines, as
hull speed is directly related to length. Nothing worse
for a J/35 than to play follow-the-leader around a reaching course.
We'd never have a chance against boats like Goose or Fat Tuesday.
See you,
Dean
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845.37 | ... and it's coming around again ... | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Tue Jun 07 1988 13:49 | 29 |
| RE .30
I looked up the racing rule in the YRUMB Racing Yearbook (section
8) about mark roundings. It states "All marks shall be left on
the side farther from the next mark." As regards to Tinkers the
second time around, this seems to indicate that leaving the mark
to starboard was the correct thing to do. All those boats who rounded
to port should have been protested.
RE .35
Bob, please calm down. I'm not trying to piss you off or imply
anything unsavory. It just seemed to me from the tone of your first
reply that you were blaming the race committee for giving the boats in
front of you an advantage. Granted the RC could have done a better job
setting up the race, but we all had to sail the same course. And
before you say it, yes, this probably did favor some boats over
others. But if you really want to do something about it, get on
the race committee.
You may have some valid points, but for christ sakes, it's JUST a
sailboat race. Not worth getting all worked up about. Sorry I got
ya riled, just trying to offer a different viewpoint. Let's try to
discuss things without all this emotionalism and resentment, OK ???
Nothing personal, sorry if ya took it that way.
... Bob
|
845.38 | Just local racing events trivia ... | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Sun Jun 12 1988 22:53 | 36 |
| Finally saw that Taylor 40 (named COALITION) down in Scituate
for the Chapman Bowl overnight race. It rates 63, which probably
isn't all that bad a rating, unless the crew was sandbagging or
something. I mean, in a 90 mile race, this boat was duking it out
with an Express 37 (66 rating) over most of the course.
I'm not sure, but CLADDAGH may have just won this race. If that
boat has an Achilles heel this year it's light winds. Most of the
night was a drifter, and by the time we turned the second mark we
were almost 12 minutes ahead of her. Then the wind freshened up
and CLADDAGH turned on the turbos and passed us, and then started
gaining on the Express and the Taylor, which were 21 and 23 minutes
in front of us respectively at the second mark. I swear, if the
race course had been 10 miles longer I think CLADDAGH would've taken
the gun. At 77, I really think she's begging for a rating change.
Dave, I found out who the other boat was that lost their chute last
week-end. It was one of our own (Jubilee boat), EIGHTY-SIX. They
not only lost their chute, but Judy Fox, the skipper's wife, was
dumped in the water in the process, which is why they dropped their
sails and discontinued the race. She said we passed by within 100
feet of her and we didn't even see her. Goes to show what can get
overlooked when you're busy in a stiff breeze. But she's OK and
off to do the Bermuda race next week.
What'ya think of that course in the Lambert Cup race? Two beats
and two runs. No reaches. Now THAT doesn't happen very often around
here. I thought it was great. Especially 'cause we finished in
front of the other two J/36s out there. But something bad must've
happened to CELESTE. I'm not used to seeing that boat finish with
B fleet.
... Bob
... Bob
|
845.39 | Landlocked Weekend | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 13 1988 09:44 | 20 |
| I regret to say I didn't race this weekend. I was up in Vermont
feeding the blackflies with hunks of flesh from my legs. First
thing I did when I got back was call my crew to see what happened.
The course sounded pretty good, but the wind report was that a 45
degree shift hit up the second weather leg. Staying left supposedly
paid off while the crew of Tuesday went right. Some moron (probably
me) left the battery switch on all week, and we had no engine,
instruments, etc. Oops.
Claddagh is flying this year. The tin can does need wind though
to really go. I thought that it was Eighty-Six that lost her chute.
It's funny, but we almost lost a guy over during the process too.
Makes you think about takedowns at night.
I will be out there Wednesday and Sunday and will never make the
mistake of hiking in the woods during sailing season again!
Dave
|
845.40 | Check for pedals underwater ! | LEDS::LAMOUREUX | | Mon Jun 13 1988 11:58 | 47 |
| re: .38
Bob,
Dont take this personally, but why are you suggesting that because
CLADDAGH started flying, a ratings change is called for. Is it
not possible that the skipper and crew are getting 110% out of their
boat by using their superior sailing ability. I think the whole
problem with PHRF is the attitude that if the boat does well, change
the rating!! We had a class A problem 2 years ago on Narragansett
Bat with the Frers 33. On paper, the boat rated somewhere between
95 and 105. On water, with Moose McClintok on board, the boat was
beating C&C 41's BOAT-FOR-BOAT !!!!! What to do ??? Change the
rating of a 33 footer to 66 (C&C ratings at the time ??) Especially
compound the problem when Joe Average goes out and sails the boat
to a 150 rating !!!! I'm pretty sure you were kidding when you
mentioned changing CLADDAGHS rating.
Also, about JASMINE catching a break in Narragansett. Let me tell
you the INSIDE story. For three years prior to 1987, EVERY racing
boat skipper on Narragansett Bay bitched about how their rating
was 3 seconds/mile BELOW New England PHRF. However, what they failed
to realize was that EVERY boat registered in Narragansett was 3
seconds/mile below !! Also, local race organizers were finding
it hard to attract outside competition because when the skippers
found out they would be sailing with a 3 second knock, assumed it
was just their boat. So Carl Bradshaw (coincidentally, JASMINE
skipper), PHRF chairman had a stroke of genius. After receiving
his third death threat, he said " Hmmm... lets raise EVERYONES rating
by 6 seconds/mile. Now we will be 3 seconds ABOVE New England PHRF
and I can lose this fake nose and eye-glasses !!" Now, he gets
no more phone calls at 2am suggesting impossible physical acts with
his stuffing box !! Therefore, ALL boats on the Bay are getting
a 3 second "gift" not just JASMINE. You see, the strategy worked
even on YOU ! You only looked at JASMINES rating for New England
and Narragansett. You failed to look at all the other boats that
JASMINE races against and notice that they ALL are 3 seconds "slower"!
Gotcha !
Off Soundings went off last weekend without a hitch. B-E-A-U-tiful
sailing weather around Long Island Sound/Block Island. JASMINE
finished 5th out of 23 on Friday. Saturday's results are unknown
yet as we left the island before the results were in. The breezes
were a little fickle but it was SUPER sailing (conditions &
competition).
|
845.41 | OK, if it really matters, you got me ... | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Jun 13 1988 12:20 | 33 |
| RE .40
Nah, personally I don't care if CLADDAGH takes every race this season.
I've watched this boat come up the ranks in the last two years from
not very competitive to clobbering boats that owe then 10-12 seconds
a mile. And I think the crew has worked hard to get that boat smoking,
so they deserve to win. I was just thinking that the PHRF is based
on boat performance, and since CLADDAGH is a converted IOR boat
they are the only one of their kind in the greater Marblehead area.
Therefore they are the sole boat on which to base a performance
handicap. So if they go out and win every race this year they
will probably get hit with a rate reduction next season. That's
usually the way it works (theoretically speaking) with PHRF, right?
About the ratings I mentioned earlier, I based my comments on the
PHRF New England Base Handicaps, which, as the title suggests, are
used as a basis for handicapping boats all over the N.E. area.
The Peterson/Wiggers 37 rated 87 on this sheet (3 seconds/mile lower
than JASMINEs rating), while the C&C 41 was listed at 72 (6
seconds/mile higher than you said they are rated down there). So
I don't really see the consistency. Of course, there may be other
factors involved. Like maybe C&C 41's were clobbering everybody
else down there at the base rating. Since I don't race in the
Narraganset Bay area I can't really say. But that's usually
what causes your performance handicap rating to be lowered, right?
Personally, I'd like to see the IMS system implemented. Seems to
be a lot less politically oriented. But I'll bet the folks who
sell hot boats would prefer to keep things the way they are, at
least till they find a way to beat the IMS rules.
... Bob
|
845.42 | Climbing.... | MANTIS::FACHON | | Mon Jun 13 1988 14:00 | 15 |
| Who won the Lambert? Must have been Spirit. Maybe Goose.
A Taylor 40 rates 63? How does Spirit, a Taylor 37, get a 90?
That much difference between them?
Personally, I can remain civilized about Goose at 72, but
Spirit at 90?
Lambert Cup was a nice course. We smoked upwind, but off
the breeze we seemed to be dragging a bucket. More practice.
Who is going to Block Island? Sorry if I asked this before,
but I just wanted to get a final head-count. Want to get
together at the "Kitten" or some such one evening?
|
845.43 | What happened to the 'sorry if I offended'? | LEDS::LAMOUREUX | | Mon Jun 13 1988 14:23 | 17 |
| re: 41
No, boats should not get their ratings adjusted based on standings.
The "performance" part of PHRF stands for 'analytical prediction
of the boat's potential performance' NOT performance in races.
So no, the boat should NOT be adjusted simply because it has done
progressively better. Unfortunately, it probably will. And yes,
that is the [P]roblem with the [P]olitically Handicapped Rating
Formula.
And no, C&C's now rate 72 seconds a mile. I guess I have to explain
things again. Thats OK, some of us do seem a bit slower than others.
The C&C 41 now rates a 72 in an area that I already said was 3 SECONDS
A MILE ABOVE New England. So if C&C's rate 72 in New England and
C&C's rate 72 in Narragansett, why does a Wiggars 37 rate 90 in
New England and 93 in Narragansett. Catchin' on yet ?????
|
845.44 | Easy now... | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Mon Jun 13 1988 16:25 | 15 |
| To judge the PHRF, all you can do is make an "objective"
rationalization based on some known "constant." For instance,
I know Bodacious does pretty well realtive to other J/35s
that we've raced in one-design events. Consequently, I infer
that we are a fairly well sailed boat. When a boat like Spirit
wins the majority of races she enters -- as happened last year --
I have to believe there's more to it than just their superior skill.
Maybe it's their Dacron sails?!
No, I do not believe that a well-sailed boat should be penalized,
but neither do I think it's possible for a fairly rated
boat to win just by crossing the line. I think PHRF tries to
adopt that viewpoint as well -- with greater or lesser success from
fleet to fleet.
|
845.45 | My FINAL word to this "discussion" | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Jun 13 1988 17:48 | 50 |
| RE .43
As to PHRF ratings, I'm not referring to what should be, I'm referring
to what seems to be. As previously noted this is discussed elsewhere.
My comments are based on what I've seen happen to successful boats
in the past, and have NOTHING to do with my personal view on the
subject. Let's not beat a dead horse, OK??
> And no, C&C's now rate 72 seconds a mile. I guess I have to
> explain things again.
You're the one who said they rated 66 seconds a mile. Don't hold
me responsible if you provide erroneous information through this
entry.
> That's OK, some of us do seem a bit slower than others.
So now who's being offensive ??
> The C&C 41 now rates a 72 in an area that I already said was
> 3 SECONDS A MILE ABOVE New England.
If it rates 72 down there, then it's RIGHT ON with the New England
rating, based on the New England Base Handicap listing, which is
published and available to any interested sailor.
> So if C&C's rate 72 in New England and C&C's rate 72 in
> Narragansett, why does a Wiggars 37 rate 90 in New England and
> 93 in Narragansett.
I don't know, I'm not on the ratings committee. However, I've already
said twice that the New England base rating for that boat is 87, NOT 90.
> Catchin' on yet ?????
No, not really. It seems to me that you've contradicted yourself.
But then again, some of us are just slower than others, right?
Bob, if you're going to get all steamed, why don't you and I just
drop this conversation. It's getting tedious. And I'm sure there
are more interesting things to talk about relative to the sport
of sailboat racing. Besides, I don't really follow you. And I
really don't think it's because I'm slow. If you think I offended
you why don't you just walk on over to my office (about 100 feet
from yours) and explain to me how, and if an apology is in order
it'll be quickly forthcoming. Now, let's not bog this entry down
with any more of this nit-picking nonsense.
... Bob
|
845.46 | Easy it is..... | LEDS::LAMOUREUX | | Mon Jun 13 1988 17:56 | 16 |
| Absolutely. I have been trying to present an objective, rational
viewpoint all along. It seems that there has been some pokes in
my direction ever since I took issue with the JFK race committee.
I apologize to the rest of the notes conference for being a bit
pointed. I shouldn't let myself get 'goated' like that.
PHRF does a very good job of identifying a range of ratings where
the boat should be based simply on the numbers. I know of several
committees, (New England included), that go out of their way to
stay within those bounds. That is the best we can ask for. Once
a boat looks like it should get moved out of that range, it should
take a major act to make it happen.
See you at Block Island.
|
845.47 | Can't wait for Rambo IV! | DECWET::OMEARA | | Mon Jun 13 1988 18:19 | 2 |
| Wow, I love it when you guys get violent (pant, pant)!
|
845.48 | See BI Rendezvous... | MANTIS::FACHON | | Tue Jun 14 1988 11:01 | 7 |
| To get the attention of people who might not be following
this note, I'm going to start a new note to set up a
"rendezvous" on Block Island next week.
Let's see if we can come up with a plan to get together
at one of the sponsor parties or whatever...
|
845.49 | Rambo returns one more time (sorry) ... | GRAMPS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Tue Jun 14 1988 11:03 | 91 |
| Sorry, I wasn't going to do this, but I gotta get it said ...
RE .46
> I have been trying to present an objective, rational viewpoint
> all along. It seems that there has been some pokes in my
> direction ever since I took issue with the JFK race committee.
Bob, I'm not trying to poke, I'm trying to make a point that it's
one thing to present an objective, rational viewpoint. It's another
entirely to flame people for disagreeing with you. Now, let's take
a look at some of your objective, rational viewpoints.
Relative to PHRF ...
RE .22
> On PHRF : Being on the Narragansett ratings committee, I thought
> Narragansett had the worst reputation for puttin' in the fix!!
> However, after watching us get slapped 3 seconds at the last
> minute and then seeing a C&C 41 take the gold with a 72 (!) I
> think the PHRF team up here has claimed the booby prize.
RE .40
> I think the whole problem with PHRF is the attitude that if the
> boat does well, change the rating!!
RE .43
> that is the [P]roblem with the [P]olitically Handicapped Rating
> Formula.
RE .46
> PHRF does a very good job of identifying a range of ratings where
> the boat should be based simply on numbers. I know of several
> committees, (New England included), that go out of their way
> to stay within those bounds.
- Doesn't sound too consistent to me.
Relative to ratings ...
RE .33
> By the way, C&C's rate 66 down in Narragansett with other boats
> having the same rating as they do up here !?!?!
RE .40
> Therefore, ALL boats on the Bay are getting a 3 second "gift"
> not just JASMINE.
RE .43
> And no, C&C's now rate 72 seconds a mile.
- Bob, you're contradicting yourself.
Relative to reach-arounds ...
RE .33
> re: higher rating boats do better in reaching races !
> I would love to see this MYTH finally end ...
RE .35
> I too have noticed that boats with higher ratings 'seem' to do
> well in reach arounds. That is because the course has favored
> their best point of sail.
- No, it's because a 37 foot boat with a 90 rating will go faster
boat-for-boat than, say, a 35 foot boat with a 72 rating. As
previously noted, reaches favor hull speed, which is a factor
of waterline length. The best point of sail of any given boat
will depend on many factors, such as type of rig, overall weight
of the boat, hull shape, etc. It has little to do with the boat's
PHRF rating.
Relative to Narragansett ratings ...
RE .40
> So Carl Bradshaw (coincidentally, JASMINE skipper), PHRF chairman...
RE .43
> why does a Wiggars 37 rate 90 in New England and 93 in Narragansett.
- Why not ask your skipper, since he sets the ratings ...
So my point in all this is not to take personal pot-shots, but to
point out that you have no reason to get all upset if someone takes
issue with inconsistant statements on your part.
Now, can we save all the emotionalism for the race course please?
... Bob
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845.50 | More upwind work! | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 20 1988 10:21 | 16 |
| Wow! What a day for racing yesterday. The CYC did a good job setting
the windward mark instead of relying on gov't bouys. Only regret
is that the course wasn't a gold cup with an additional
windward/leeward.
On a different subject, it seems the PHRF rating committee in M'head
has gotten wind of some of the comments made in this note and are
somewhat less than pleased. For the record, while I personally
have a problem with the attitude of one of the members, and while
I certainly have difficulty making sense out of some of the ratings
that come out of that committee, I don't think anyone in this note
file thinks that they are intentionally stacking the odds in anybody's
favor.
Dave
|
845.51 | Windard work's great, providing there's wind... | MPGS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Jun 20 1988 11:41 | 25 |
| RE .50
Sounds like you guys didn't lose your wind like we did. We did the
Jubilee Chowder Cup race yesterday. This is a "fun", cruising type
race (no spinnakers) where everybody in the club comes out and races
around a 12 mile course. Lost our wind twice, once by Bakers Island
and once at the end of the race. Aggravating as hell to get within 1/2
mile of the finish and then stop dead and watch the whole rest of the
fleet catch up to ya. Imagine a J/36 nearly getting beat boat for boat
by a J/24 and a Winger 28. EMBARRASSING !! Ah well, sh*t definitely
happens. Besides, it WAS a fun day. And the best part is the free
chowder and beer afterwards. Next week it's back to the serious stuff
(Patton Bowl). Hope to see ya out there ...
By the way, I'll put in my $.02 about the M'head ratings committee. I
have fewer problems with the ratings of our competitors than I have
with some of the skipper's attitudes (particularly before and after the
race is over). And I'd hesitate to criticize anybody who volunteers to
do a job that I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot spinnaker pole (setting
ratings for all those boats). Hope it wasn't anything I said that they
took exception to. (And how'd they get access to this Notes conference
anyway???)
... Bob
|
845.52 | Wednesday races/Thursday hangovers | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Jun 21 1988 16:34 | 12 |
| Anybody out there doing the Wednesday night series? Fat Tuesday
is doing it and I'm going to be out there as often as possible.
It's good fun and a way to get your crew's spouses/girl(boy)friends
out for some casual racing.
I don't know how the PHRF committee heard what was being noted about
them. We have a rule on Fat Tuesday called "Canadian Rules" (long
story) which basically states that all that happens or is opined
onboard stays onboard. That rule has served us well.
Dave
|
845.53 | General George would've loved this one ... | MPGS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Jun 27 1988 08:47 | 24 |
| Wasn't Saturday a real scream? Did the Patton Bowl race this week-end,
although on our boat I think it should have been called the "Murphy
Bowl". Only cost us two halyards, a headfoil, and two crew casualties
(one minor, one requiring stitches). Ah well, I guess we all have bad
days.
Dave, I know you were out there. Maybe you can explain Saturday's
course. I know they displayed a twice around flag, but what was the
extra upwind/downwind leg between Newcomb's and Gale's all about? Did
I miss a flag or something? Damned good thing we had boats in front of
us to watch or we probably would've headed right back up to Eastern
Point. Also, can anybody explain why they'd have such a long course on
Saturday and such a short one on Sunday? Christ, we were so beat after
Saturday's race I thought the crew was going to mutiny and not show up
for Sunday. Then yesterday's race just whetted our appetite for a good
sail, since the wind and weather were more reasonable. We went for a
three hour cruise after the race just because it was a nice day and the
race ended so early. Just can't figure that one out.
Also, any idea why CELESTE dropped out? They don't seem to be off to a
very good start this year.
... Bob
|
845.54 | S--t Happens | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 27 1988 12:39 | 33 |
| That's right, we were out there, but didn't finish a race all damn
weekend! On Saturday we recovered from a mediocre start to round
second at the windward mark behind the new Coalition. At the jibe
mark we had almost caught them. On the third leg back to Gales
we passed them to leeward. They were pissed! I would be too if
I just spent $250+k and a boat with an identical rating walked by.
He had the builder and sailmaker on board too. We felt pretty good.
Just after rounding the Gales and starting the second weather mark
we were burying them when , BANG, the main halyard let go. I almost
started crying. Just parted at the crane. We were going so well.
Obviously, it was the end of our day. The boys on Coalition were
visibly relieved.
The course was shortened on Saturday. It was a Gold Cup course,
twice around. The Gold Cup flag was flying right next to the Tango
flag. The final windward/leeward was eliminated in a course shortening
action.
Celeste dropped out because they ripped thier #2 and they were (I
swear) "cold and wet". Couldn't get much else out of them. They
were in no mood to talk.
Sunday we had the wrong chart with us so the course looked about
the size of a quarter when plotted out. As a consequence, we went
the wrong way to the second mark after rounding the first mark well
in front of the fleet. Sailed too low. By the time we noticed
we were out of it so we dropped out. Pretty demoralizing after
working to fix the boat after Saturday's survival race.
WE WILL BE BACK.
Dave
|
845.55 | All in all a very forgettable week-end ... | MPGS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Jun 27 1988 15:32 | 49 |
| Sorry to hear about your mishaps Dave. I just figured you guys were
somewhere way out in front of us. Doesn't look like Coalition's
going to be the hot boat to be feared this year after all, but I'm sure
you guys would really like to have crossed the line in front of her.
Hell, there's always next week though.
I can't believe CELESTE would drop out simply because they were "cold
and wet", and because of a torn headsail. I'm starting to feel a little
better about our "Murphy Bowl" effort. I mean, we were "cold and wet"
too, and some of us were bleeding, and some of us were seasick, and some
of us were cramping up from the cold and wet and effort. And if we kept
track of our screw-ups we'd have needed a damn computer to sort 'em all
out for us. But we crossed the finish line, almost in one piece.
Dave, did you say SHORTENED COURSE ?!?!? Can ya give me that in
English please? We did Gales (starting line) to Newcombs to Eastern
Point to Gales to Newcombs to Gales to Newcombs to Eastern Point to
Gales. Ain't nothing short about that course. I was ready to ram the
committee boat by the time we crossed. Hope that was the real course,
but CILISTE and WHIPLASH were behind us (as well as B fleet, BUMPA took
the gun about 2 minutes behind us) so I don't think we screwed up.
Guess it was a "Murphy Bowl" for a few of the boats out there. I noticed
BAD COMPANY didn't come back out on Sunday either. And we weren't the
only ones spending time at the top of the mast Saturday evening. One of
the other boats in our club "TOOT SWEET" lost a shroud, and dropped out
of the race before they lost their mast.
Sunday's race was a real disappointment for us too. Maybe you didn't
notice, but we were in pretty good shape right after the second leg.
But our naviguesser was the one who got hurt worst on Saturday (she had
to scramble up the mast to release a stuck halyard and ripped her
finger up pretty good on flogging hardware) and wasn't there for Sunday's
race. We spent most of the race guessing where we were supposed to be.
Didn't miss any marks, but ended up on the wrong side of the course a
couple of times, which hurt us big time. We were counting on using our
computer for navigating the course, but it doesn't handle portables too
well. Took us longer to figure things out than we had time for on
those short legs. And the damned headfoil was damaged from Saturday, so
every time the wind puffed up the jib luff started coming out of
the track.
Captain Wagner just kept a cool head though, and let his crew work
things out as best they could. Can't help admiring a guy that can
watch his hard earned $$ flying away like that without getting upset
about it. Guess that's why we let him steer the boat.
... Bob
|
845.56 | Shortened it was | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 27 1988 15:53 | 25 |
| Yeah, the Saturday course was shortened. It was supposed to be
gold cup (triangle, windward/leeward) TWICE! That would have been
what you sailed plus a Gales to Newcombs and a Newcombs to Gales
leg. Original course length was just over 35 miles. I must say
we had advanced word that they were going to try that. The reason
they shortened was not that it was too long but they started worrying
about the smaller boats rounding Gales as bigger boats were finishing.
A reasonable concern indeed!
Coalition sure looks hot, but like you say, did not live up to its
rap. Once again Clad-dog saved their time. Unbelievable!
Sorry you had such a damaged boat on Sunday. We haven't had any
wind instruments (direction, speed, etc.) all season because of
a short in the Ockam box. Like sailing a dinghy! Actually it has
sharpened the crew not to rely on the numbers. Now if I could only
learn to read a chart correctly...
Dave
|
845.57 | "Trip Report, Block Island" | SPIDER::FACHON | | Mon Jun 27 1988 17:15 | 23 |
| Report from BI.
A difficult week. Lots of fog forced a 1st race
cancellation. Auspicious beginning! Other races delayed 3 and 4 hours.
Some good water-balloon fights on Friday. Although a surely lot,
the race committee did a good job given the conditions. They did set
one crazy line though -- Friday's B start saw the committee boat
favored by some 50 or more yards!!
Bodacious did not fare well at all. Suffered one injury -- a shoulder
separation. Yours truely. Didn't make any difference to racing,
though, as it happened Friday afternoon while horsing around. At any
rate, the competition was outstanding. One design is very intense.
Wish there were half-a-dozen 35s in M'blhead.
"Thunderdome calling MAD MAX, come in." Ralph, sorry we never
hooked up. Didn't you hang out for any of the parties? I certainly
drank my share or Myers. Did you take any of the Audis for a ride?
How about that simulator!? Pretty silly contraption, no?
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.58 | The 4th | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Jul 01 1988 10:23 | 10 |
| Anybody doing the EYC regatta the 4th ? It's a good time, and the
committee has plenty experience in one design courses so it's usually
a pretty good race. This is the last race before the Corinthian
200 so it's a good tuneup. Fat Tuesday will be there to avenge
our shameful performance of the prior weekend.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Dave
|
845.59 | | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Fri Jul 01 1988 15:01 | 5 |
| Bo will be there. How about rafting up after to
vidi the fireworks?
Just a thought. ;)
|
845.60 | More the merrier | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Jul 01 1988 15:33 | 12 |
| Not sure we will be on board continuously after the race until the
works, but will be back in time to watch the show. Ofcourse you're
welcome to raft up to us if you don't have a mooring in the harbor.
We are at the opening of the harbor and easy to find. Also a good
spot to exit from when over. Give a shout on Monday at the line.
See you there!
Dave
P.S. Bob Bailey came out racing with us last Wednesday. He has
a hot hand on genny trim.
|
845.61 | Knee high by the 4th of July | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Jul 05 1988 12:50 | 12 |
| What a weekend for racing! Is it my imagination, or are the committees
infinitely better at setting courses this year? Had several gold
cup courses already. Class A is getting pretty competitive again.
All of the class finished within a six minute span on corrected
time yesterday.
Looking forward to the Corinthian 200 this next weekend. Anyone
else doing it? Dean, thanks for saying hi. Never saw you after
the race, though. How'd you guys do?
Dave
|
845.62 | | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Tue Jul 05 1988 12:52 | 11 |
| Nice job Dave. Fat Tuesday looked lean and mean.
You did win, yes? Would like to think you saved your
time on Spirit.
We ended up rafting with Combat Zone -- way up next to
the beach. What a beautiful night!
Corinthian this coming weekend. Anyone going?
Dean
|
845.63 | 200 can seem like 2000 | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Jul 05 1988 13:01 | 8 |
| Guess we crossed notes, Dean. Yeah, we won and saved our time on
Spirit. So did Coalition. Nice looking boat! See you Friday.
I hate the thought of anything to do with Monhegan Island, but we'll
be there!
Dave
|
845.64 | Lookin' forward to the week-end ... | MPGS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Tue Jul 05 1988 14:32 | 9 |
| Sounds like we missed a good race yesterday. WAGS is still recovering
from last week-end, with a couple of our sails still in the "repair
shop". So we decided to bag yesterday's race and just go for a nice
leisurely cruise.
I'll be there Friday, on FAT TUESDAY (thanx for the invite Dave). See
ya then ...
... Bob
|
845.65 | Corinthian. Which way did you go? | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Mon Jul 11 1988 13:29 | 27 |
| We went left -- hit the Monhegan parking lot around 1 am.
Wind clocked all the way around in 30 seconds. Fun to be sailing
backwards with the chute draped in the shrouds and lightening
flashing all over the place. Having been through that before --
and doing about 6 hoists in half an hour, we "white sailed" it
until things settled down.
Nice weather leg, huh!? Played the middle -- lots of dramatic
shifts. Seas very mixed up -- a challenge to drive. Going left
seemed to pay. More wind, or better angle? We had it on the
nose all the way.
Saw Pioneer running home when we were still 30 miles
out! What happened in A fleet!? Sure would have been nice
to finish that quickly.
In all, a pretty tough race. Small victories made it
worthwhile, though: For instance, Claddagh passed us on her
return from the bottom mark when we were still 3 miles out.
Didn't do much for our psyche. But somehow we beat her. Gear
failure? We saw them drop their main and hoist someone to the
top for about 15 minutes. Very heroic! They must have parted
a halyard. At any rate, we never ran completely out of gas on
the weather leg. Would not have been pretty out there if we had.
Dean
|
845.66 | We stayed outside the rhumb line - both ways | MPGS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Jul 11 1988 14:20 | 29 |
| Hi Dean,
Sounds like we were a little luckier than you. We got our chute down
before the wind shift. Then we did a few sail changes during the next
half-hour too. When did you round Monhegan? We rounded around 3 AM
(not sure of the exact time, I was in the rack at the rounding). Our
strategy was to stay outside the rhumb line going downwind, just in
case the wind died inside during the night. Must've paid off, we beat
the boats we saw inside us during the downwind leg.
Coming back we stayed left of the rhumb line most of the way, till we
could tack and aim for Cape Ann. Gotta admit, the waves were a little
easier in close, and the wind stayed right up there. Didn't see too
many boats all day Saturday. None from our fleet. We crossed a couple
of B-fleet boats early afternoon, and passed a C-fleet boat (apparently
the first one across the line) out around Thatchers Island.
I didn't come back on Sunday to get the final results, but I suspect
COALITION won. She finished a couple of hours in front of us (bummer).
We crossed the finish line just after 11. The entire race took us just
shy of 35 hours. When did you guys cross? When did the first Az boat
cross? Who won in the Az fleet??
All things considered I thought it was a really good race. Conditions
couldn't have been much better, as the wind never really died and the
weather never really got bad. Had loads of fun sailing on FAT TUESDAY.
... Bob
|
845.67 | I still hate Monhegan Island | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jul 11 1988 15:04 | 21 |
| Okay, how did Bailey know what happened? All he saw was the bottom
of the bunk on top of him! Just kidding, Bob.
Coalition did win A fleet. After the finish list was exactly in
order of size (Pioneer, Seahawk, Cara, Rumours, Eighty-Six, Fat
Tuesday). Coalition rounded Monhegan a half hour ahead of us.
We should have followed her down the windward leg. We might have
had a chance. Oh well.
The boat developed a leak that made life below a little uncomfortable.
As it turned out we could have fixed it in about five minutes.
Just a leaky drainage hose getting backwash when the stern was down
in the water (all the time).
All in all it beat a drifter, and the lightning show was spectactular.
I still prefer sailing while the sun's up.
On to Edgartown and revenge over Coalition!
Dave
|
845.68 | | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Mon Jul 11 1988 15:47 | 15 |
| Tough to know for sure, but things seemed
to reverse for our fleet. Inside boats on the
downwind leg did real well. Outside on the
return, however, did better. Argonaut won Az.
We rounded the bottom mark about 5 miles
in front of her, but she was one of the pack that
came reaching in from outside at the finish.
We passed her again about 100 yards from the
line.
Dave, have fun in Egg-head town! See you at the
Mid-summers?
|
845.69 | BODACIOUS wins both days at the Mid-Summer's | MPGS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Jul 25 1988 09:07 | 9 |
| Nice going Dean.
You guys looked like you knew what you were doing out there. I especially
liked that spinnaker set out by Gale's yesterday. :^) :^)
Congrats ...
... Bob
|
845.70 | HYC Regatta, July 29-31 | PALMER::PALMER | half a bubble off plumb | Mon Jul 25 1988 09:16 | 7 |
| Is anyone heading out to the Hyannis Regatta on July 29, 30
and 31? It is not in the same league with Edgertown or Block Island
but there should be a fleet of 50-60 PHRF boats in 3 divisions.
If you're there check out the MAD MAX and the end of the HYC pier
and give me a holler.
Ralph Palmer
|
845.71 | | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Mon Jul 25 1988 12:30 | 19 |
| Thanks Bob.
Yeah, that set was a beauty! Actually
filled and was drawing! We screwed up by dousing it
early though -- should have gone with a peel. ;)
Did you swing by the Corinthian? We were late.
Ralph, good luck in Hyannis!
Dave, trip report. You had some very good press
from what I hear -- almost took the whole thing?
Berringer in two weeks....
|
845.72 | Edgartown trip report | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jul 25 1988 14:10 | 77 |
| What a week! Great sailing, great committee work, and the weather
wasn't as lousy as up in Boston.
The racing was Sunday thru Friday with a layday on Wednesday after
the 'Round the Island race on Tuesday. Sunday and Monday were the
Osborne series and Thursday and Friday were the Regatta series and
the Island Race was seperate. We opted to do the whole thing.
The trip down began Friday before race week. My partner was doing
that with some of the crew as I had to work. Around 3 in the afternoon
I get a call from the boat that they couldn't get the engine to
work and were turning back to Marblehead. Can't go through the
canal without an engine. From this end I get a mechanic to be at
the boat by 8 the next morning. The problem was more extensive
than we thought and by the time we had it going it was mid afternoon.
So, with the first race starting at 11 the next morning, we leave
Marblehead at 4:30 in the afternoon for the roughly 100 mile trip
to Edgartown. Fortunately we had plenty (22-25 knots) of air for
the long haul to the canal. At the canal it was right on the nose
so we motored thru. I went down to snooze. All of a sudden I hear
something that isn't quite right. Swing my legs out of the bunk
and into 6 inches of water above the floorboards. Panic is a mild
term for what I felt. We very shortly found that the hose had come
off the water pump (again) to the diesel cooling system. East fix
but a bitch to pump out that much water.
After a wild ride thru Woods Hole, we pull into the town dock in
E-town at 8 Sunday morning. A quick unloading and gathering of
the rest of the crew and we're off to the races!
Sunday. Perfect day. Triangle course twice around with brisk wind.
We win our class which astounds us since we're exhausted. We
established a rule banning sunglasses for the day since no one can
tell if you're sleeping behind shades!
Monday. Refreshed, we go off to a very light air race. Our tactician
smells wind to the left and we jibe over. We pass the entire IMS
fleet which started 10 minutes ahead as well as most of the IOR
fleet including Infinity and Gem (two hot Fifty footers). We win
big and lock up the Osborne cup both in class and fleet.
Tuesday. The Around the Island race. Plenty of wind but no
visibility. Short tacking the beach (up to the breakers and tack)
is nerve racking but to do otherwise puts us smack into foul current.
Visibility lifts around sunset just in time to blast downwind up
Vineyard Sound inside the middle ground shoals in pitch black.
I was scared. We were going 9.5+ through the water with 2.5 of
current with us through increasingly narrow channel with the added
bonus of a rock at the end of it off West Chop marked with an unlighted
can. Great. Somehow our navigator brought us through (maybe my
swearing to maim him if we tagged any rocks helped). We finished
about midnight and won our class.
Wednesday. Layday. Rain. Yuck.
Thursday. Fat Tuesday met her match. With a steady 20-25 knots
of air a Swan 51 walked away from us and nothing we could do seemed
to help.
Friday. Began as a repeat of Thursday with 30 knots blowing at
the start. Wind moderated to low 20's for five of the six legs.
Again, the Swan was walking on us. At that point we were ten points
ahead of the next boat for overall fleet honors for the week. A
nice conservative race would wrap it up. But no, not us. The wind
died and we saw a chance to catch the Swan. We went right to find
wind and the wind came from the left. Whoops! Overall goes right
down the drain. We were not happy campers and our tactician felt
like Whale doo-doo. Had to settle for second.
This report is a bit (!) long winded, but the point is that the
regatta is a fantastic event and I would encourage more participation
from the racing DEC types.
Dave
|
845.73 | Thanks Dean! | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 08 1988 10:19 | 25 |
| If you had to design an overnight race that was interesting,
comfortable, with plenty of wind and variation to keep things
interesting, you would be hard pressed to beat last Friday's Beringer
race. Basically a figure eight course twice around (about 90 miles).
Actual distance sailed 117 miles.
We tanked and let Claddagh slip by, but still had a great time.
We were bemoaning the fact that a 41 footer like Claddagh has that
incredible rating, but really feel for the J 35's that owe her time.
At least we have a chance to beat her on time. Can imagine very
few situations in any distance where a J 35 has a prayer. Must
be frustrating Dean.
Special thanks to Dean and the crew of Bodacious for giving us a
copy of the mark list as we left ours ashore. Very sporting!
One disadvantage of the course with its many relatively short legs
was that it made it difficult to sleep at all. Most of our crew
went the whole night without so much as a cat nap. And these guys
are real sack hounds! Made for a wierd Saturday.
From now on we race while the sun's up!
Dave
|
845.74 | | MANTIS::FACHON | | Mon Aug 08 1988 11:45 | 28 |
| Well Dave, you're welcome. We race to win,
but that doesn't preclude civility, or for that
matter enjoying a friendly relationship with
the competition. Speaking of which, we enjoyed Bob
Bailey's company VERY much. Of course, he was awfully
busy with his spy camera, but he did lend a hand now
and then... ;)
As for the Berringer, no pity, please. You win some
and you loose some. At the weather mark we'd clawed
our way back into a pretty nice position -- only Claddagh had
us, and we knew she could go "lower and faster" on the
run, so we went outside for the angle. Looked good for awhile,
but the wind died on us while the inside boats got away. We failed to
cut our loses and that was the race. But give credit where
credit is due; we were smoking to weather.
It is somewhat frustrating to owe Claddagh time, but we
have beaten her a few times this year, so it's not hopeless. What we
can't do is give other boats up for the sake of beating her.
Know what I mean... ;)
Monhegan next week -- ugh! Only consolation is there's
usually a large J-35 contingent. N.E. PHRFs in three
weekends. Should be competitive!
Dean
|
845.75 | Try the MS regatta | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 08 1988 12:38 | 16 |
| No pity intended. Just glad it's you instead of us! Bob is fun
to sail with. Just have to keep him awake :>).
Have fun in Maine. Won't see us there! If you stay up there, the
next weekend is a truly great regatta. The MS people in Portland
put it on. It is run out of Handy Boat. The course is in Portland
harbor three times around. The charity side of it is super but
the parties are lots of fun. We did it last year and, truthfully,
are sorry to miss it this year.
If you are interested (or anybody else for that matter) call Martin
Oliver at Handy Boat (207) 781-5110 for information. They usually
have more sponsers than boats. Racing is casual but exciting.
Dave
|
845.76 | | MANTIS::FACHON | | Mon Aug 08 1988 14:03 | 27 |
| Thanks for the tip on the following weekend.
I'll pass it on -- although now that I think
about it, Jon (skipper) did mention he was feeling
tired and was wondering if he really wanted to
do another over-nighter so quickly. We may end
up racing local.
What do you mean, "glad it's you instead of us?" How
often has Tuesday beaten Claddagh this year? Hmmmm?
FYI: Loosing to Claddagh is more than frustrating,
it's annoying. Those guys can be real d__ks. Seems
they haven't gotten over our having protested them out
of a race last year (cost them dearly, but they screwed
up, not us) so they tend to be very obnoxious whenever
we cross paths on the course. For example, while still
running down the first leward leg of the Berringer, they
passed us on the return -- a mile ahead -- and were extremely
snide. I'd like to have seen their expression when they
saw us right behind them at sunrise. Of course, they had
the last laugh, but our windward speed should give them
as much cause for concern as their downwind speed confounds us.
The smarter boat will come out ahead for the season.
;)
Dean
|
845.77 | | MPGS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Aug 08 1988 14:43 | 10 |
| RE .75
Aw c'mon Dave, you're gonna give people the (yawn) mistaken impression
that I zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ..... uh (ahem) race the same way
Ronald McReagen governs (snooorrre) ...
... Bob
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845.78 | Curb your dog | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 08 1988 17:32 | 12 |
| Re.76 You're right about Claddagh. Not nice guys. Since we call
them Clad-dog, when we're moving on them we say we're "walking the
dog". You're also right, we haven't beaten them a lot. Just the
Summerset and 4th of July regattas and we won those. My point is
that if they were really good a J should rarely beat them boat for
boat much less on corrected time. The fact that you do impresses
the heck out of me.
Also, stay local, there's a pretty good race this Sunday (CYC summer).
Dave
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845.79 | Staying local... | MANTIS::FACHON | | Tue Aug 09 1988 11:30 | 12 |
| We're sticking around here -- on the heels of the
Berringer, the delivery is just too much to deal with,
not to mention the mere prospect of the Monhegan parking
lot gives me a headache.
As for "Clad-dog," hopefully we'll improve faster than them.
And then there's this "Fat Tuesday" boat that we've yet to
set straight.
;)
Dean
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845.80 | Skinning chutes | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Aug 09 1988 16:40 | 27 |
| Good to hear you'll be around. Maybe you can punish us this time
:^) . You guys are pesky upwind.
On a different note, Bob Bailey and I were talking this morning
and he said he learned a lot about peeling chutes with you last
weekend. One technique we have been fooling around with is
substituting the changing strap with a snatch block. Put the foreguy
into the block and hook the clew of the chute to the snap shackle.
When the sail is raised the block rises up the foreguy to the pole.
The advantage is that you can raise the new sail while keeping the
pole square to the wind. To blow the old sail you can either quickly
send the afterguy forward to the headstay and have the bowman blow
it there, or, as we do, honk down on the foreguy to make sure it
is very tight and send the bowman out on the foreguy to the end
of the pole (over the water) and release the old chute there. The
new clew is right there to hook up to the afterguy. If you want
to keep the pole square on a dead down run you send the bowman out
on the foreguy (as mentioned) disconnect the lazy sheet from the
guy, hook it up directly to the pole, and tension the lazy sheet
to keep the pole in place while hooking up the guy to the new sail.
This all sounds more complicated than it is, but we have found it
to be a much faster method as well as keeping the forestay clean.
Just an alternative...
Dave
|
845.81 | | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Wed Aug 10 1988 15:55 | 25 |
| Yep, that's how the BIG boys do it. We use a
bridaled foreguy, however, so the technique wouldn't
work for us unless we changed that. We have tried other
methods of accomplishing the same thing, but when properly
done you loose very little by bringing the pole forward,
and there's less risk of dropping a body. Of course, with
an ample supply of gorillas like yours, there's no
shortage of talent. ;)
Admittedly, we've had our share of muffed legs downwind
-- no reading between the lines, Bob -- but that's got
more to do with struggling for optimum speed than it
does with peels. We just can't afford to run square
in anything short of surfing conditions. Consequently,
we end up working the targets -- we're finding that to
be much more difficult down the pike than up.
Ironically, this is not a problem when we sail one-design.
There, we rely much more on boat-against-boat tactics.
At any rate, see you Sunday -- we'll do our best to
give you your money's worth.
Dean
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845.82 | I HATE when that happens | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Aug 10 1988 16:22 | 11 |
| re:80 I forgot to mention that the bowman has a Lirakis harness
on so if he loses his grip he just slides back down the foreguy
and slams into the boat (hopefully headfirst so he won't hurt himself).
Incidentally we did it that way on our Express 37 but it didn't
have a bridle style foreguy.
We, too, should pay more attention to our polars. That's how Claddagh
got us last weekend.
Dave
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845.83 | 8/14 Corinthian | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Mon Aug 15 1988 11:56 | 27 |
| Well, since we didn't do Monhegan I guess a little bit
of Monhegan decided to "do" us. Great wind-shifts, and
a lovely little tunda-bumpa. One hit was awfully close to
the A-fleet -- like being in a giant flash bulb with an
F-16 swooping the masthead at mach 2! Close as I need to
come for inspection. ;)
Seems Claddagh took the cake again, although there was
evidently a protest between her and Lightning. Dave, do
you know what happened? How did you do? Looked like
the leaders all crossed fairly close. Sorry we didn't
press you too much, although you looked vulnerable on
the approach to the weather mark -- that was when we had
6.5 knots on. But then the wind went light. You showed a lot
of discipline in waiting out the shift that brought you
up to the mark. We ended up over-standing big time.
Would have rounded with Claddagh had we been more aggressive.
NE PHRFs in two weeks. We may get four races. Also,
expect some "out-of-town heavy-weights."
|
845.84 | Need a leash law... | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 15 1988 12:31 | 27 |
| What a waste of a day! We came in third behind Claddagh and Smoke.
Smoke made out by going to the far side of halfway rock and getting
the wind before us or the "Dog". By the way, the protest was on
us. We tacked in front of the on the first leg. Plenty of room
and no way too close, but they insisted it was. Funny as hell to
watch them drop back and to leeward like they had a sea anchor out.
They added to their reputation by yelling that we "don't know how
to sail our boat". I almost had to physically restrain our crew
from responding. If I had a 41 foot boat with their rating, I think
I would go out of my way to NOT piss people off. The nice guy routine
is the way to keep a bogus rating.
We never saw lightning during the storm. Heard a few cracks and
got wet, but that's all. Made four sail changes in ten minutes
as the wind decided to spin around. Our bowman was not a happy
guy. Speaking of lightning, the boat Lightning hasn't been any
threat yet. Can't believe it. You guys had great speed coming
into the first mark. All of a sudden there you were! We spend
too much time worrying about Clad dog. Sometime soon the rest of
the fleet is going to get away from us if we're not careful.
We, too are looking forward to the NE champs. With no race this
weekend we're worried about becoming rusty. Wish they hadn't shortened
the race yesterday.
Dave
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845.85 | not so safe racing? | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Mon Aug 15 1988 13:44 | 30 |
| We sailed offshore from Rockland, Maine, to Marblehead this past weekend.
Sometime after dark on Saturday we sailed across the path of a fleet of
sailboats running downwind under spinnaker toward Monhegan. As far as we
could tell, perhaps two of the thirty to forty boats were displaying the
correct running lights. All of the boats had the to be expected red and
green bow lights and white stern light. However, virtually all of
the boats appeared to have their masthead anchor lights on also (why, by
the way?). Thus, from ahead, we saw either a red or green light and a
white range light -- the lights to be displayed by a vessel under power.
From astern, we saw two white lights, one above the other (I'm not sure
what these lights are legal for -- perhaps a very large anchored vessel
-- I haven't checked my copy of the navigation rules). At best, the
boats were displaying illegal and/or improper navigation lights. At
worst, an oncoming power vessel would correctly assume, seeing a green
bow light and a white range light, that it had right of way. If there
were a collision, I wouldn't bet on the captain of the power vessel
being found completely at fault.
Hey guys, it is difficult and dangerous enough sailing the New England
coast at night with all the fishing boats and other vessels around. Why
make it more difficult and endanger yourselves, your crews, and others?
Many if not most sailors judge the distance of lights at night by their
brightness. Dim lights look far away. Some of the boats that we passed
quite close to had lights so dim that they looked perhaps a mile away. I
don't recall seeing any of the racing boats using a bright masthead
tricolor light.
Alan
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845.86 | We racers are dim | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 15 1988 14:46 | 34 |
| Alan, what you had the misfortune to pass thru was the fleet doing
the annual Monhegan Island race. The reason for the masthead light
is to allow the helmsman to see his windex for apparent wind angle.
This would be especially important going down wind. Had they been
going upwind you would have seen flashlights attached to the lifeline
stanchions focused upon the telltales on the headsails. A pretty
eerie sight too. The practice of lighting a masthead light is
universal in racing and I confess I did not know it to be less than
legal. As for the tricolor on the masthead, it is required in the
UK for racing (or so our Scot tells us). Trouble is that it makes
it hard to judge where the bow of the fellows boat is in close crossing
situations. I know that those aren't supposed to happen at night,
but the fact is that with large fleets close to marks they do.
The dim nav lights are a result of the poor battery systems most
racing boats have. Ours are like spotlights, lioghting up the ocean
around us.
Just as a side note. When we bought the boat (Fat Tuesday) we noticed
to "speaker controls" reostats next to the nav station. Since they
they didn't hook up to the speakers I called the previous owner
to ask what the heck they were for. He had them hooked to the running
lights. Said that nothing was more disconcerting to the competition
than slowly dimming your lights after passing them. Makes it look
like you've simply sailed away! As that is clearly illegal, we
reconnected the speakers to the controls.
At the same time, no one ever claimed racers were bright. If they
were smart why would they stay up all night only to end up in the
same place they started from ;^) ?
Dave
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845.87 | oh | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Mon Aug 15 1988 15:20 | 30 |
| Ah so. I thought maybe the anchor lights were on to make judging
relative positions easier.
Well, a masthead tricolor light illuminates a Windex just fine (at least
mine does). Two ideas: Don't use your anchor light to illuminate your
Windex, but instead use a small, separate light that is shielded so that
the light only shines upward. Or, use a masthead tricolor light when not
near other boats and switch to the deck level lights near turning marks.
Three more reasons for using a masthead tricolor: If there is more than a
small sea running (say more than 3') deck level lights can be obscured
by the waves, especially when seen from another small boat. Second, the
separation between the colors (red, green, and white) is excellent with
a tricolor light. With separate deck level lights there is often overlap
(ie, you can see both red and green simultaneously) or gaps (no light).
Third, our masthead tricolor uses a single 25W bulb. Our deck lights use
two 25W bulbs and one 10W bulb. Our anchor light is 10W. So you could
reduce your electrical current consumption by 35W (3 amperes) by using a
masthead tricolor (or by 45W or almost 4 amperes if you also use your
anchor light to illuminate your Windex). I can recommend the Aqua Signal
tricolor/anchor/strobe light. Of course, it does add a couple of pounds
to the masthead, which might not be acceptable to fanatic racers. Still,
any lights are better than no lights.
Alan
BTW, we actually saw two fleets, one before dark and one after. A J24
was in the middle of the first fleet, well ahead of some much larger
boats.
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845.88 | more Monhegan/tricolor bits | CLT::FANEUF | | Mon Aug 15 1988 19:33 | 14 |
| From one of Alan's watchkeepers -
We saw 3-4 boats with a masthead tricolor only. They were always
the easiest to distinguish and identify (there were at least two
power boats mixed in out there; confusing).
We also spent two hours on my watch 'enjoying' lightning strikes
from major thunderstorms back toward Monhegan, right where the fleet
went. Did you guys have a lovely time? And did you have any wind
next morning (we didn't).
Ross Faneuf
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845.89 | Night Lights... | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Tue Aug 16 1988 11:04 | 25 |
| Ross,
Hooo Boy! Sounds like the Monhegan was another
classic! Really happy to have passed on it this year!
Every time I've done that race there has been thunder-storms
near the island and no wind in the wee hours. Not unusual
for some smaller boat to slip out ahead. We did the same thing
on a J35 three years ago.
Dave,
I was going to mention that bit about unscrupulous racers
using dimmers on their lights. Happy to hear you rewired
yours.
Alan,
What are the approximate dimensions of the masthead
tri-color you mentioned. Shape? The ones I've seen are
somewhat ungainly, and would require quite a stalk to
keep them clear of other masthead gear. The power savings
sounds worthwhile, however, and it might be possible to
rig up a detachable unit so you wouldn't carry the weight
and windage around the buoys. Sound feasable?
|
845.90 | | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Tue Aug 16 1988 12:24 | 12 |
| My Aqua Signal tricolor/anchor/strobe light is 3.5 inches in diameter
and 10.75 inches tall. The tricolor only version is several inches
shorter. All of the Aqua Signal masthead lights have a quick release
mounting socket -- they can be removed from the socket and the socket
cover installed in about 30 seconds. It would be quite easy to make a
mounting post that would get the tricolor above the other masthead gear.
I think that the increased visibility of a masthead light is sufficient
reason alone to use one.
Alan
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845.91 | Corroborating testimony | EXPERT::SPENCER | John Spencer | Wed Aug 17 1988 09:46 | 21 |
| As another of Alan's watchkeepers Saturday night, I too found the plethora
of "extra" lights confusing (as well as technically illegal.)
Re: masthead tricolors, in June I was part of the Annapolis-Newport
multihull race, in which every boat had and used their masthead tricolor.
(All had deck-level running lights in addition, but didn't use them --
using both is also illegal.) They are specifically designed to illuminate
a masthead wind indicator, and with a 25w bulb up there instead of only a
10w anchor light bulb, the helmsman's eyestrain was minimal. We were
actually happier to have the loom of the running lights way up there,
rather than occasionally glinting off a wave at deck level or lighting up
any slight mist in the air. And in areas of traffic, a masthead light
commands much more attention sooner from non-racing traffic than the
typcial deck-level lights.
Though crossing situations occurred only in Chesapeake Bay, when needed we
illuminated our jib with a handheld flashlight from the cockpit to
establish the boat's physical presence.
J.
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845.92 | Back on the right side of the law | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Aug 17 1988 10:05 | 10 |
| For a lot of the reasons mentioned in this note, we are going to
go to masthead lights next year. No more night races this year!
The deciding factor is the relative ease of removing it for day
racing when you really don't need the weight aloft. Another factor
was the fact that it removes all distracting deck level lighting.
Our current runners reflect off everything. Less current draw too.
And we will be legal! Yeah! I feel better now.
Dave
|
845.93 | | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Wed Aug 17 1988 10:12 | 12 |
| I'm glad you've seen the light ..... :-)
Seriously, does an extra couple of pounds at the masthead really make a
noticeable difference in your boat's performance? I find it a bit hard
to believe. Loose Goose has been mentioned in these notes as a
competitive boat, and she now has a radar radome at the spreaders. Such
radomes weigh, what, twenty or thirty pounds? (True, a pound at the
masthead has twice the effect of a pound half way up the mast.)
Alan
|
845.94 | Radar Illegal? | CASV05::THOMAS_E | short!! | Wed Aug 17 1988 10:50 | 4 |
| Can racers use radar? I thought it was illegal.
Ed
|
845.95 | Monhegan + Radar | OBLIO::STONE | | Wed Aug 17 1988 16:24 | 16 |
| re: .94
There was discussion at the skipper's meeting before the Monhegan
Race regarding radar. The sailing instructions stated that electronic
navigation devices including radar were allowed. At the skipper's
meeting, the chairman of the race committee verbally asked that
radars be used only to insure safe passage.........*Right, how do
you verify this?*
The race itself was very good. Plenty of air until 2:00 AM (as
usual), but it filled in around 8:00. Excellent finish line this
year-outside the Hussey!
I have results if anyone wants them.
Joe
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845.96 | Please, results! | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Aug 18 1988 10:31 | 14 |
| Re .95 Yes, I'd be interested in results. If you could publish
the top three finishers in each class in this note it would be good.
Thanks.
Took my boss out on a Marblehead Wednesday night race last night.
Very light winds. Too light for Claddagh. They decided not to
race and instead motored around with the leaders (us and a Soveral33)
in general taunting and being a pain in the a--. Being as they
are an aluminum boat, I wonder how long it would take to self destruct
if their Zinc mysteriously disappearred? Not that we would do that.
No, but maybe...nah.
Dave
|
845.97 | Monhegan Race Results | OBLIO::STONE | | Thu Aug 18 1988 12:33 | 71 |
| re:96 Ok Dave, here we go. Monhegan Results.
Class A
Pioneer 17:38:15
Cara 18:03:15
Matriarch 18:08:28
Reindeer 18:11:03
Rampage 18:23:03
Scaraamouche 18:51:02
Bandito 19:40:47
Hetairos 22:54:19
Dancing Bare DSQ (Collision rounding 2CP)
Class B
Loose Goose 18:22:51
Revolution III 19:04:31
Legends 19:23:53
Arbella 19:44:24
Airwaves 20:36:10
Heitorik 21:19:45
Widgeon 21:40:54
Capella 21:50:22
Evelution 21:51:15
Serenity 22:05:48
Aurora 22:06:57
Elusive 22:15:58
CS Payson 22:30:10
Class C
Sae Winds 19:08:41
Abracadabra 19:44:48
Rosie 21:07:37
Hawk 21:34:00
Electra 21:37:59
Windancer 21:54:95
Cutaway 22:19:43
Class D
Cilista 20:18:45
Dutch Connection21:33:16
Expression 21:48:50
Blitzen 21:49:37
Avatar 21:50:26
Victoria 22:21:47
Emotional Resc. DNF
Irish Mist DNF
Illusion DSQ (The other boat in the collision with Dancing
Bare)
Class E
Great Owl 21:01:04
Cailin A Mara 21:14:57
Altered States 21:22:50
Moondance 21:23:22
Loki 21:23:53
Probe 21:26:47
Revolution 21:30:11
Shamrock 21:39:41
Fiesta 21:42:05
Arbicia 22:29:24
I didn't add the Manana or Seguin races, but will if requested.
Joe
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845.98 | | MANTIS::FACHON | | Thu Aug 18 1988 14:10 | 8 |
| Thanks for the race results!
FYI: I plan to lobby for a detachable tricolor
aboard Bodacious.
Claddagh was being a deliberate nuisance
on the race course?!!
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845.99 | Like a mosquito in your ear | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Aug 18 1988 17:01 | 6 |
| I don't know if they were trying to be in the way, but that was
the effect. Just an unneeded irritant when trying to maintain
concentration in very light winds.
Dave
|
845.100 | Tricolor shot down: | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Fri Aug 19 1988 09:47 | 16 |
| Evidently, tricolor lights have actually caused some problems.
When used exclusively, they often go unnoticed because they
are so high up, and it's next to impossible to judge range when
nothing illuminates the hull of the boat. It's illegal to use normal
running lights simultaneously, and there is no proscribed
"legal" method for lighting the hull. You could switch back
and forth, but I can imagine many instances in which it would
be difficult to know which lights were most effective, not
to mention that under dire circumstances one might also forget.
From what my skipper tells me, the Coast Guard has actually
considered banning tricolors -- I beleive Jon, as he
is up on this stuff, but I do not know the context.
Alan, can you address this?
|
845.101 | Strobes? | CASV05::THOMAS_E | short!! | Fri Aug 19 1988 10:09 | 7 |
| I wonder if the Coast Guard is thinking of acting against the use of
masthead strobes. As I understand it, strobes are illegal under all
conditions yet I think some of the masthead combination lights have a
strobe option.
Ed
|
845.102 | | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Fri Aug 19 1988 10:18 | 7 |
| Definitely referring to tricolor lights, exclusive
of any strobe option.
Masthead strobes have been illegal for a dozen or more years.
Dean
|
845.103 | | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Fri Aug 19 1988 14:56 | 31 |
| I have heard nothing about banning masthead tricolor lights. Properly
shielded running lights (deck level or otherwise) do not illuminate the
hull. I agree that, when close to another boat, you may not notice
another boat with a masthead tricolor. I don't use my masthead tricolor
in harbors for that reason. However, at a distance and especially with
any sea running, a masthead light is much, much more visible. The idea
is to be seen as soon as possible. Once seen, there should be no
difficulty with the height of the light. A good masthead tricolor light
is visible at over two miles even in a big sea (in fact, a masthead
light at two miles actually appears very close to the horizon). Lights
appearing and disappearing behind waves are not as likely to be noticed,
and, if they are, may be interpreted as being lights dipping below the
distant horizon. Large vessels need a lot of room to change course -- I
prefer to give them every possible chance to see me and avoid me.
I have no objection to racing (I've raced on occasion). I object
strongly to racers doing things like displaying illegal navigation
lights that needlessly and unnecessarily endanger me and my crew. The
Rules of the Road are international law. If you fail to follow them, and
someone is hurt or killed or a boat is damaged or sunk, you will
quite likely find yourself financially liable. Please remember that the
crews on cruising boats are often small (in my case usually only one on
watch). Anything you can do to make it safer for everyone is appreciated.
Masthead strobe lights are legal, but only as distress signals (last I
heard anyway). They are not legal for collision avoidance or for finding
your anchored boat in the fog or anything other than as a distress
signal.
Alan
|
845.105 | working on some official poop | CASV05::THOMAS_E | short!! | Fri Aug 19 1988 16:01 | 10 |
| The cavalry is on the other side of the hill!! I talked with several
people in the Coast Guard about prospects for tricolor lights and
finally was pointed to a Mr Palmer in Washington. He's on vacation
this week but his secretary said he'd call me next Tuesday with
an answer to my question. See if we can't get some "OFFICIAL" word
on this!! :-)
Ed
|
845.106 | Racing in the NOOD | MPGS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Aug 22 1988 09:24 | 77 |
| RE: last several
So what about those boats that turn off ALL their lights during night
races. I asked one skipper about this practice, and he claims that ANY
lights destroys his night vision. I claim he's an idiot.
Getting back to racing, I just returned from the NOOD (National
Offshore One-Design) Regatta which was held in Newport this past week.
It was QUITE an experience. For those of you who have never done
one-design racing in big boats, it's a lot different than your average
week-end PHRF regatta.
There were well over a hundered boats there. Classes were J/24, J/30,
J/35 (VERY large fleet), J/36, Soverel 27, Soverel 33, Frers 33,
One-ton, and 3/4 ton. And I'm sure I left out a couple, because I also
saw a J/27 and a Frers 41 milling around the starting line.
There were five races in three days. Two were olympic courses, and the
other three were upwind, downwind, upwind short courses. The racing
was very competitive, with close finishes and lots of tacking duels,
and lots of protests, and a few collisions.
There were also lots of "rock stars" around, the most notable was Tom
Blackaller. He was there representing Mellon Bank, who was one of the
sponsors. Each day Tom was "raffled" off to a boat for a race. On
Friday we had the experience of racing against him as another J/36 won
the raffle for that race. My most memorable experience of the event
was coming up the last windward leg of an olympic course and crossing
about twenty feet from his stern (after trailing by about 1/2 mile at
one point), and hearing Tom exclaim "Where did that striped boat come
from?" I'm surprised he didn't tack to cover us, as I had told him if
we beat him I was having crew shirts made up that said "We beat Tom
Blackaller". But unfortunately he crossed the line about 100 feet in
front of us, so no shirts.
We didn't finish all that well overall, but we had some good races.
And we did pretty good against CELESTE and HIGH ZOOT. In Friday's race
we were in this terrific tacking duel with HIGH ZOOT which lasted most
of the final windward leg. I swear it helped both boats make time on
the rest of the fleet.
After racing, sponsors like Guiness, Bass, Mount Gay, and Kahlua helped
create a hell of a party under the big tent. I've never seen so many
drunken sailors in one place before. There were lots of exhibits and
new product announcements by several marine product manufacturers, and
most of the major sailmakers had booths there. Dean, there was a
fantastic shot of BODACIOUS in the Doyle booth from Block Island a
couple of years ago.
Gene Ho came down and sailed with us. For those of you who haven't met
Gene, he's a hell of a good sailor, and he helped our effort
tremendously.
Also interesting that we had to travel all the way to Newport to
finally party with the HIGH ZOOT and CELESTE crews. The crew from
"ZOOT" are especially fun, and we had a wild water balloon battle
before the first race on Saturday, while waiting for some wind so we
could race.
I'm not sure they'll let us in the Newport Yacht Club again next year
though. After the races were all over we decided that since we were in
the NOOD regatta, we should get NOOD and have some crew pictures taken.
Well, we tempered our inhibitions a bit, but still got some funny looks
from the folks sitting up on the porch as we all stripped to various
stages of NOODity and posed behind the boom while the NYC launch
operator took some pictures for us. I think I saw them out there
repainting the NO WAKE signs to read NO WAGS. Ah well, next year we
probably will end up on a mooring.
All in all it was definitely the high point of the racing season for
us. I'd highly recommend the experience for anyone, and seriously
hope they do it again next year.
... Bob
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845.107 | PHRF "Championships" | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Thu Aug 25 1988 12:32 | 10 |
| Has anyone heard specifics about this weekend's PHRFs
in Mrblhd? Aside from hearing that there should be a lot
of out-of-town competition, I've heard nothing more.
Is a preliminary scratch sheet available? Anyone other than
the usual correspondants in this note planning to participate?
Anyone want to meet somewhere Saturday evening for a pop?
Jacob Marley's? Could be a mad-house, but fun.
I know, let's have a party on Fat Tuesday! ;)
|
845.108 | Don't miss the skipper's meeting ... | MPGS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Thu Aug 25 1988 14:03 | 14 |
| Dean,
Whilst in Newport I heard a lot of out-of-towners mention that they
were going to be there. I expect you guys will have an extra J/35 or
two to race against (I think SILLY RABBIT's coming, but things were
getting kinda fuzzy by the time I talked to those guys).
Not much info to be had, not even starting times. Skippers meeting is
tomorrow night, and from what I heard it's MANDATORY (i.e. if you want
to race somebody from your boat better be there). That's all the dirt
I have.
... Bob
|
845.109 | Masthead tricolors will be around for a while. | CASV05::THOMAS_E | short!! | Thu Aug 25 1988 15:17 | 13 |
| re tricolor futures
I talked with a Peter Palmer of the Coast Guard's Navigation Safety
Office in DC about the possible elimination of tricolor navigation
lights. He said, "No way, absolutely not." He's not aware of any
changes under consideration for boats under 20 meters. He said the only
things in the works were some rule clarifications.
Ed
|
845.110 | Early to bed, early to rise... | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Aug 25 1988 15:38 | 22 |
| Yes, the PHRF NE's are here. Big regatta. We are taking this VERY
seriously. No ringers, (except Tim Woodhouse, president of Hood,
and he's just along for the ride) but we will have our A team out
there. Should be great competition.
Sorry, the bar on Tuesday will be stripped down to racing weight
:^), but Marley's or even (dare I say it) Matty's (sp?) sounds good.
We're counting on hitting the bars early for an early face plant
into the mattress.
Just for info, Dean, if you guys are looking to leave Bo' in the
harbor Saturday night, the mooring next to ours is usually empty.
Belongs to J. Bildner and he's been too busy staying in business
to launch the boat this summer.
Yes, the skipper's meeting is absolutely mandatory. That is the
only place any info will be given out.
Looking forward to a great weekend!!! See all you out there!
Dave
|
845.111 | | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Thu Aug 25 1988 16:16 | 10 |
| re .109:
Ah, good news, you've brightened an otherwise dull day. Since tricolors
are specifically allowed under the international rules, I'd think that
the Coast Guard couldn't unilaterally ban them anyway. Now if only
everyone would use one .....
Horrible thought: Imagine using a kerosene tricolor masthead light.
|
845.112 | ex | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Fri Aug 26 1988 11:48 | 20 |
| Re .109 -- Thanks for taking the trouble. It will
be interesting to see what "clarifications" are made.
Re Alan and your earlier lecture -- I did want to mention
that the implication that I or anyone else in this note
takes the safety or others less seriously than yourself
was uncalled for. FYI, we don't have a tricolor, but we
display the correct lights.
Re You "Wag"ish "Fat Tuesday" types, thanks for the scoop.
I may see you at the meeting. I guess we won't be racing
against your boat, Dave, so I can wish you an unreserved helping
of good luck. But if we are in the same class, why then,
I hope you have just slightly less luck than we do. Same to you Bob.
;)
But seriously, let's hope the local boats put in a good showing!!
|
845.113 | | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Fri Aug 26 1988 12:23 | 18 |
| re .112:
>>> Re Alan and your earlier lecture -- I did want to mention
>>> that the implication that I or anyone else in this note
>>> takes the safety or others less seriously than yourself
>>> was uncalled for. FYI, we don't have a tricolor, but we
>>> display the correct lights.
I did not intend to imply that any particular person, crew, or boat
owner does not take safety seriously or that any particular boat does or
does not display the correct lights. However, the majority of the boats
I observed in the Monhegan races were displaying illegal navigation
lights. This does show a disregard for the safety of others, and I
strongly object to such disregard by anyone.
Alan
|
845.114 | Oh no! No Bo'? | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Aug 26 1988 12:55 | 22 |
| Re .112 Why won't you be racing against us? Aren't you class A?
Are they dividing up the classes? Fill me in.
Re .113 I had a thought about all that tricolor stuff. Your major
point was that other boats might be lightly crewed and not keeping
a good watch and therefore it made sense to give the other boat
enough time to spot you with the masthead tricolor. Well, when
racing we have to keep diligent watch just to not hit our competition.
Any commercial gets a wide berth, and any cruising vessel will be
accorded the same treatment as other racers, but they will be seen.
So, I guess that while some have a point that windex lights should
shine up only and not 360 degrees, I don't see a risk in deck level
lights for racing purposes. Ofcourse this argument would only hold
up for relatively short, coastal racing. Offshore I would demand
a tricolor at the masthead.
Alan, if you ever feel like it, we'd be glad to get you out racing
with us some time. We'll try to keep the mast up for the whole
race ;^) .
Dave
|
845.115 | | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Fri Aug 26 1988 13:01 | 6 |
| re -.1:
Sure, I'd love to join your crew sometime. Thanks for the offer.
Alan
|
845.116 | | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Fri Aug 26 1988 13:46 | 10 |
| Re Dave -- I'm assuming that if enough big boats show
up, they'll split classes like they did for the Corinthian.
Maybe not. Kind of hope they do though -- no fun getting
run over by 50 footers. We'll know tonight.
Alan, do take Dave up on his offer -- I've been looking
for that extra insentive to break out the funnelator.
;)
|
845.117 | | MPGS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Fri Aug 26 1988 15:18 | 18 |
| RE .116
Did you say funnelator? NOW you're talking. Gotta remember to
re-stock our water baloon supply, the NOOD depleted our resources
severely.
Allen, I'd also recommend taking Dave up on his offer. Maybe if you
got out there a couple of times you'd get a different perspective on
things. And Dave and his crew of racing "heavies" know their business.
I also hope they split the class. Not fun looking at the leaders cross
the line so far ahead that you can just make out their sails through
binoculars.
See y'all at the skippers meeting tonight.
... Bob
|
845.118 | Roll tack! | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Aug 26 1988 16:35 | 11 |
| Won't see me at skipper's meeting. My partner, Denis and our navigator
are going. Most of our crew, including me, are going to play with
the MIT Tech Dinghies on the Charles river tonight. Those things
are a blast and it's amazing how hard they are to sail fast. Anyone
who is any good leaves me in the dust. Last week our foredeck guy
and I were fighting for last place in one of these races when he
looks across to my boat and says "think it would impress 'em if
we told 'em we're ocean racers?" Nope, not a bit.
Dave
|
845.119 | | MILVAX::HO | | Fri Aug 26 1988 16:48 | 6 |
| re [-.1]
Is there now a Friday night series too? Used to be Tuesdays and
Thursdays. I used to race in these to recruit crew but when they
saw what a poke I was, no one wanted to come.
|
845.120 | Amateur night | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Aug 26 1988 16:57 | 5 |
| Mondays, Wednesday, Friday are novice nights. Tuesday and Thursday
are for those who know what is going on. Not me!
Dave
|
845.121 | The PHRF New Englands, exciting, yes ? | LEDS::BAILEY | | Mon Aug 29 1988 08:51 | 50 |
| Well now, wasn't that FUN ??? Thirty nine boats in A fleet ! After
all the postponements and general recalls we finally got a little
racing in. I REALLY wish they'd split up a fleet that size, it
was a little dangerous out there on the starting line, and at the
first windward mark.
It's really amazing to me how many people were in flagrant violation
of the basic rules this week-end, and how many of them got away
with it. I think they should adopt a rule that collisions caused
by such flagrant violations should result in the offending boat
being barred from racing for a season, or something along those
lines. Somehow a DSQ for the race just doesn't seem sufficient.
Wonder how that poor guy from HOT SPUR who got his collarbone broken
in the collision with ARCADIA feels about it.
Dave, you guys really looked hot out there. Maybe it was the safety
thing too, eh? Figured you'd get out ahead of everybody where you
weren't in danger of being T-boned. How'd you guys make out yesterday?
We dropped out of the last race at the first windward mark. Nearly
got ourselves T-boned by SHEHERAZADE when they came roaring into
the pack on port tack. We had rights, but if we had maintained
our position we would've ended up like HOT SPUR. So we bore off
big-time and missed the both SHEHERAZADE and the mark. Then, when
we gybed around to go back to the mark we got blanketed by a solid
wall of sails to windward and went into irons. Talk about getting
gassed! There wasn't enough air in there to breath comfortably,
forget about filling a sail. And the tide was carrying us right
into the mark! So as the rest of the fleet roared up on starboard
we counted about six boats telling us we were protested for not
getting out of their way (as if we could with no air and no steerage).
After the entire fleet passed we finally got some air, and went
over and informed the committee boat we were dropping out of the
race. Too bad too, we had finally gotten a good start and had a
reasonably good windward leg. Oh well, as Dave says, "That's yacht
racing".
I guess if you're going to go out and play with the big boys you have
to decide that you're going to risk life and limb in order to maintain
your rights. For us it's not worth it. We like our boat and want to
keep the crew healthy. Saw too many big boats go bump this week-end.
Fortunately this doesn't happen too often. I think if they'd split
the fleet it wouldn't have happened so much this year.
I suspect Wagner won't want to risk his boat in this event next
year. We'll probably do something a little less risky, like cliff
diving maybe.
... Bob
|
845.122 | Bumper boats | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 29 1988 10:30 | 38 |
| Contact sailing is alive and well off of Marblehead. Forty competitive
boats trying to get to one end of a starting line makes for a lot
of fun. We had two minor collisions the first day. The first was
when Brigadoon was sitting head to wind at the line when her jib
backed and put her onto port tack and a domino effect that caught
up to us seven boats away. Nowhere to go and Full Tilt Boogie bounced
off us. No problem.
The incredible number of general recalls made for some great starting
line clinics. One problem was the mixing of very serious and not
so serious racers and the disparate knowledge of the rules. Can't
be teaching rights in those circumstances.
We had a third on Saturday, and a second and a third in the two
races Sunday. Would have given us a second for the series if Taylor
Anne, a Frers 41 hadn't protested us for tacking too close. Hey,
guys,you still got first that race, no gelcoat involved, and this
is racing. They were an Eastern YC boat with an EYC jury and an
EYC committee member as a witness. We was screwed. But that's
yacht racing. All we could do was beat the pants off them on Sunday
and we did. Felt good.
I, too, believe that all would have been served better with a split
A fleet. The smaller boats never had a chance. The courses were
short and they had to race the whole time in the larger boats' bad
air. The starts would have been much safer too. There was also
a lot of wind sheer giving the taller rigs a huge advantage.
The last start had Bodacious called over early. We couldn't believe
the committee called two boats over when the whole bloody fleet
was over! We pictured them going "the hell with it. Start these
maniacs."
Overall the best and most competitive racing we saw this summer.
I could do that every weekend!
Dave
|
845.123 | Wild Weekend | OBLIO::STONE | | Mon Aug 29 1988 10:41 | 13 |
| re. 121
Boy, was it wild. I agree, the fleet should have been divided-the
rating spread could have even allowed 3 fleets. The amount of contact
was unbelievable. Does anybody know how many boats got DSQ'ed?
The amount of recalls were excessive. I can't help to wonder if
the race committee was trying to minimize the chance of one of
the "big boats" being tossed out. In all, I'd rate the management
of this regatta a C+/B-. I heard that Portsmouth is working to
host this event next year.
JS
|
845.124 | "The rich get richer..." | MANTIS::FACHON | | Mon Aug 29 1988 13:04 | 24 |
| Hi guys,
Sorry to see your DSQ Dave. Bob, also sorry to see WAGS get
wasted in the third race. We saw you floundering in there
as we rounded. You looked REAL good up to that point, and overall,
it certainly did seem that the NOODs benefited WAGS. I would
like to know, though, how you figured you had rights coming into
a weather mark on port -- I can imagine VERY few instances when
that would be true. Might make a good discussion in the "Protest
Room" (869).
We had a tough weekend too. Went from bad to worse when
we let 6 boats off the hook in the last 1/2 mile of the last
leg of the first race -- one of which was Claddagh. The second
race was a matter of going left for the lift. We waffled around
in the middle. For that last start, we new we were close, but as Dave
mentioned, it looked like everyone would get called if anyone got
called.
In all, I was impressed with the turn out, but with courses
so short the big boats had quite an advantage in the hunt for
clean air. I too hope they'd split the fleets even further
next time.
|
845.125 | ... and the rest of us get wiser ... | MPGS::BAILEYB | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Aug 29 1988 13:51 | 50 |
| RE .124
Hi Dean,
No we knew we didn't have any rights by the time you saw us. What
happened was that we were on starboard tack coming up to the weather
mark, as were most of the fleet. SHEHERAZADE was on port tack, coming
right at us broadsides. When we realized they were not going to duck
us we had to bear off about 90 degrees to avoid a collision, thereby
missing the mark as well as their boat. We then tried to gybe around
to make the mark, seeing a small hole between the first batch of boats
to round and the second, which were coming up on starboard in a hurry.
Unfortunately, we didn't count on being so completely blanketed by the
boats to windward, and we couldn't get ANY boat speed. Once we were in
irons we knew it was all over. But we figured we'd just sit there and
watch the fleet go by then round. Unfortunately, we ALSO didn't count
on the tide pulling us into the mark (we were only about two
boatlengths away when we gybed). So there we were, helpless to move
without any wind in our sails, and helpless to steer out of the way
when the rest of the fleet roared up.
The thing is, we could have protested SHEHERAZADE. But what was the
point after letting about 25 boats go by, at least 6 of which were
going to protest us. The only thing that hurts is that they got away
with it. Those guys could've killed somebody if we'd decided to hold
our course when we were on starboard. It was EXACTLY the same
situation as what happened the previous day with ARCADIA and HOT SPUR.
In that case HOT SPUR was in the right, but they were the ones that
suffered the serious damage to their boat, and ended up with a
seriously injured foredeck person. And both boats suffered the same
penalty of not finishing the race. I couldn't see the point of holding
our course if it meant damage and injury.
Hey, we did hold our own in the first two races though. We also felt
the NOOD helped us get our act together. Overall we feel pretty good
about the progress we've made this year. We did very respectably
against the other boats that rate the same as us, and those with
ratings in the +/- 5 mi/sec range. So there were some positive things
to think about while we were heading home, although most of the crew
was pretty down after getting (what we felt was) shafted like that.
But we also had a lot of fun during the delays with the water balloon
fights against DEFIANCE. I just wish those guys would have been
considerate enough not to start heaving them when we were going into
our 10 minute starting sequence. They found out though how fast we can
change modes when the delay flag went up. Who needs a funnelator?
Just batten down the hatches and rev up the engine !!
... Bob
|
845.126 | Blue sails in the sunset | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 29 1988 16:03 | 19 |
| Dean asked me why I recommend Spectra (as mentioned in an earlier
reply). The answer is that it has a lot of the qualities of kevlar
(low stretch, good shape holding ability) with none of the problems.
Folding it does not break it down any faster than dacron and flogging
it isn't fatal. The material is also easier on the hands and knuckles
than kevlar.
The distinctive blue shading is not the spectra threads, but the
polyester cross weave. Hood decided to do it blue simply as a
marketing ploy. They now give a choice of blue or white. Most
people pick the blue because the white (which I would choose) looks
too much like dacron! Tim Woodhouse told me some people have requested
it in tan like kevlar. Isn't that incredible?
Other sailmakers are playing with newly available supplies of the
stuff and I bet you'll see a lot of it soon.
Dave
|
845.127 | Spectra..see May Sailing World | OBLIO::STONE | | Mon Aug 29 1988 16:34 | 13 |
| re.126
The only problem with Spectra is creep. The Spectra fibers are
"slippery" (or more smooth than kevlar) and tend to move under the
laminate over a period of time-especially under high loads. As
such, the sails do loose their shape though not due to the fibers
stretching. Although Allied Signal (the manufacturer of Spectra)
is making it more available, I think that you will see more of it
in lines and halyards than in sails. The blue is distinctive though.
FYI: The 12 meter worlds are on ESPN tonight at 9:00, I think.
JS
|
845.128 | %\ | MANTIS::FACHON | | Mon Aug 29 1988 16:52 | 19 |
| Oh Bob! You should have protested!! A flagrant rule-violation
like that!? You owed it to yourselves and to anyone else who
might one day get creamed by that moron. Did any boats
witness the incident? Someone must have. And you
hailed "STARBOARD" loud enough to be heard? Can't imagine you didn't.
In an instance like that, not only would the race committee throw the
other boat out, but they might very well have adjusted your time to
compensate for being buried. I don't believe the boats hollering at
you had grounds for protest if you demonstrated you were making every effort
to stay clear -- which you were. As for hitting the mark, all you
needed to do was re-round. But all that aside, you should have
taken the guy out of the race because he didn't deserve to be there.
I know, I know, easy enough to say when I wasn't right there.
Fair enough. And a good thing I wasn't there, too. I would
probably have hurled a winch handle at them. When we rounded,
we all just looked at each other and said "What
the "F" is WAGS doing there?!!!?!??"
|
845.129 | No respect, I tell ya | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 29 1988 18:42 | 13 |
| Re.-.1 I talked to Wags's foredeck woman about the incident last
night and had the same response. I was amazed. We all know what
Bob is like when he's mad ;^). Scheherazade has some yahoos onboard
and I can just see them doing that. Wags also protested Scaramouche
for a windward/leeward situation and got no satisfaction in a pretty
obvious violation. Sounds like Wags was the Rodney Dangerfield
of the fleet. They had a GREAT start the last race, too.
Still, sailing in that kind of fleet is the most fun you can have
with your clothes on.
Dave
|
845.130 | Justice WILL be served ... | MPGS::BAILEYB | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Tue Aug 30 1988 08:37 | 25 |
| Not to worry, we're going to get some satisfaction in our own way. We
see those yahoos a few times a year, and the next time (even if it's
not till the JFK next year) we're going to prepare some special
"protest" balloons for them. Red, and filled with recycled beer!
They're going to know we were p*ssed off!
Seriously though, after spending all those hours waiting around to
protest another flagrant violator the day before, only to have the damn
thing thrown out because of a technicality, we just weren't up for it.
We were hoping one of the other boats in the vicinity (BODICEA also had
to alter course, though not with the same disastrous results) would
protest them, but I guess not.
Most of the boats we race against regularly (those who see us during a
race anyway) know that we don't like protests, and usually go out of
our way to avoid them. We're out there to SAIL after all. So we
sometimes get rolled. But that's changing. There are a couple of us
aboard now who know the rules well enough to go into a protest room
with our homework done. But we'd really rather do it on the race
course. And besides, as those yoyos are going to find out, "ve haf
our vays" of getting revenge ...
... Bob
|
845.131 | | MILVAX::HO | | Tue Aug 30 1988 15:10 | 4 |
| Would anyone care to post the results, at least for the first couple
of finishers in each class. What happened to the Wags protest on
Saturday?
|
845.133 | Some results | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Aug 30 1988 15:54 | 20 |
| Only have class A:
Saturday Sunday I Sunday II
1st Taylor Anne Wired Rampage
2nd Scaramouche Fat Tuesday Scaramouche
3rd Scwalag Scaramouche Fat Tuesday
^
|
|
Should have been
Fat Tuesday--Protested
The protest that Wags had on Scaramouche was disallowed on the
technicallity that Scaramouche claimed that they were not informed
promptly. As Wags tells it they chose not to listen.
Dave
|
845.134 | | ULTRA::WITTENBERG | Secure Systems for Insecure People | Mon Sep 05 1988 19:02 | 12 |
| Re: Wags v. Scaramouche
You don't have to inform them, you only have to make a good effort
to inform them at the first reasonable opportunity.
I wouldn't recommend the recycled beer water balloons. A couple of
years ago a skipper got barred from racing for a year because his
crew poured beer down the hatches of one of their competitors when
the boats were sitting at the dock.
--David Wittenberg
|
845.135 | BYC, Not a good show | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Sep 06 1988 15:39 | 18 |
| Well, the Boston Yacht Club really out did themselves this weekend.
Not one race complete race in two days. With 6-7 knots of breeze,
they sent the fleets off on a 21 mile goose chase with a 6.5 hour
time limit. Shifts were rampant as the varying positions at the
marks attest to. We went from 3rd, to 1st to 4th to DFL before
the race was abandoned. Bodacious looked good most of the time.
I guess the brunch at the BYC was too good to miss for the race
committee. They had ample opportunity to shorten course, but dropped
the ball. Absolutely no excuse.
The next day was so foggy they couldn't find Tinkers gong in time
to shoot the postponement guns on station! They did have the good
sense to cancel before even trying to get off a start. What a waste
of a weekend. I hope the Jubilee committee hears about this and
stays on station next weekend.
Dave
|
845.136 | Not even a good excuse ... | MPGS::BAILEYB | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Tue Sep 06 1988 16:25 | 19 |
| Not to worry, one of the JYC race committee was out there this week-end
(Jerry Fennessey, skipper of BRIDGET). He was mighty P.O.ed, I tell
ya. I suspect they'll do everything possible to make sure they don't
repeat the performance.
Question, is there ANY possible (good) reason why the BYCRC couldn't
have been out at the monster bouy to end the race there? I can forgive
them for setting the course they did, given the fact that the weather
reports were for 8-16 SE. But it was pretty obvious by 2 or 3 PM that
is wasn't going to happen.
It was a shame the race didn't count. Particularly if you were on
APPARITION. Those guys really made up a lot of distance between
Newcombs and the monster bouy, and deserved to (finally) win a race.
See y'all this week-end.
... Bob
|
845.137 | | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Wed Sep 07 1988 11:48 | 21 |
| Now Bob, if they ended the race about a mile after rounding
the buoy, we'd have won. You should think of these things!
;)
As for Fat Tuesday, Dave, you guys were terrific! I can't
tell you how bored we'd have been had it not been for your
wind-seeking antics. I don't know how many times we said,
"Look at Fat Tuesday!!" I do know that by the last leg, we
really hoped your flyer would pay off so we could finish the race.
Sure did seem the RC droped the ball. I don't think we
should even have started. With half an hour delay
they might have realized the wind would stay fickle and
acted accordingly. Sunday was amazing. That they couldn't
postpone the "harbor start" was irresponsible. The conditions
were hazardous, let alone unfit for racing. Waste of time all
the way around.
See you this weekend.
|
845.138 | Please,please,please | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Sep 09 1988 15:04 | 8 |
|
Could either Bob or Dean pick up an extra scratch sheet and course
instructions at the skippers meeting tonight? No one from our crew
can make it to the meeting and apparently you need the course
instructions to understand what's going on. Thanks!
Dave
|
845.139 | Great series! Rating debate. | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Mon Sep 12 1988 12:03 | 39 |
| Full marks to Jubilee! A nicely run series. The weather
certainly cooperated, but I was especially impressed with the
course on Sunday.
Bob, I expect to see you guys a lot closer on our heels in
the future -- you're looking good. Dave, you guys are tough --
I'm even thinking a little too tough. When you think about it,
the rating splits between Bodacious, WAGS, and Fat Tuesday are pretty
nuts. As things stand, we're closer to you than WAGS is to us,
and yet I'd think all parties would agree there's a bigger difference
between your boat and Bodacious than there is between us and WAGS.
Yes, we do have strong points that help us keep it close on some legs,
but those strengths are far outweighed by your overall speed advantage.
I also think it's pretty apparent that Claddagh's rating is due for
a change. Those guys are sailing well most of the time, but not THAT
much better than us.
I don't know how these discrepancies should be resolved, or if they'll
even be addressed, but I'd like to see a combination of changes that
puts at least a few more seconds between Bodacious and Tuesday, puts
at least some time between us and Claddagh, and also puts some time
between us and the C&C 41s.
Something like:
Fat Tuesday 63
Claddagh 73
Goose 72
Bodacious 74
WAGS 84
I've tried to be objective, but of course, I'm using my boat as
a bench-mark. What do you guys think? If we are reasonable
and remain as objective as possible, our discussion might formulate
the basis for an appeal to the PHRF committee.
Dean
|
845.140 | Why am I standing in water? | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Sep 12 1988 13:50 | 42 |
| Okay, here's my report. Great weekend! The problems with the course
on Saturday were unnecessary, but easily understood by any navigator
worth his salt. I think it's interesting that of twelve boats in
class A the only three that went around the right way were F.T.,
Wags, and Bodacious (and Claddaugh did eventually turn around and
re round correctly). We were also involved in a protest with Arbella
at the start on the same subject that was in the notes file last
week, namely luffing after the gun but before crossing the line.
Having fresh knowledge of the rules played a major role in our success
as I stated clearly in front of the committee boat that we had to
sail below proper course to allow Arbella room. With Jon, the skipper
of Bodacious as a witness we prevailed. All the boats that rounded
the first mark to port were tossed.
Sunday was wild. Lightning, a Frers 40 lost their rig before the
start. Made quite a good show, nobody hurt. We broached in a gust
while jibing and were pinned with our spreaders in the ocean for
about a minute. Filled our cockpit. Our leeward grinder was totally
under water and holding on to the winch handle for dear life!
Everything on the port side of the boat ended up on the starboard
side stacked to the coachroof. Not fun. I was pretty sure we were
going to lose the spar but it held.
As for ratings, I do agree that the spread between J35's and us
is too small for heavy air or large fleets. I won't be surprised
to see our rating go back to 60. However this goes back to the
argument as to whether we should be punished for working hard on
a good crew. We didn't win anything to speak of last year. Same
boat, different crew. Claddaugh is living on borrowed time with
their rating. They should rate even or lower than a J35. Hell,
they're 40 feet long. We couldn't shake them all day yesterday.
I think the C&C 41 should be 69, not 72.
All in all, Jubilee ran a heck of a regatta and serves very good
drinks for very little money! Dave, the race committee chairman
is one of the most reasonable, unstuffy I've come across. He deserves
a lot of credit.
Dave
|
845.141 | The debate goes on ... | MPGS::BAILEYB | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Sep 12 1988 13:53 | 52 |
| RE: Rating Changes ...
I agree that Claddagh needs a rating change. I've seen them walk on
too many boats this season that owe them megaminutes for a given race
(ala ... COALITION, SCALAWAG, BODACIOUS, LOOSE GOOSE, and occasionally
FAT TUESDAY). Check out my replies to this entry at the beginning of
the season and note ... I TOLD YOU SO!
Now granted, those guys are good sailors, and know how to get the most
speed out of their boat. But so do the crew of the above mentioned
boats, all of whom are pretty competitive if you look at their racing
history over the last two or three seasons. I think CLADDAGH is
getting an advantage out of the fact that they are a converted IOR boat
and there isn't another one like them around (also it's a pretty old
boat as racing boats go, even if they don't suffer the same type of
degradation as fiberglass boats do with age).
As to the rating changes you mentioned Dean, I'd agree with most of it.
Except that I think CLADDAGH should be knocked more than that. I think
they should be down around 70 somewhere. Even with that rating they'd
stand a pretty good shot at taking the Salem Bay series again next
year. The "Goose" is a tough call. Lately we've been sailing a lot
closer to them than to you guys. But this might have to do with
something other than boat speed because in the early part of the year
they were pretty tough.
If I hadn't sailed on your boat I'd say you're right where you belong
based on your finishes. But now that I've had a chance to race with
you guys I have to consider that you do so well because the crew
work is so good (thanks for the many little "tips" that I brought back
to WAGS, you notice it's helped us). I keep hearing that J/35s rate 75
elsewhere. So perhaps your rating should be bumped up a little. But
this is Marblehead, where they want Taylors and Expresses to do well.
If you want a favorable rating for a J, I'd think you have to be racing
in Newport to get one.
As for the J/36, our rating hasn't changed since 1983, and probably is
right where it should be (even if Dave Campbell thought it was 90. At
least now you know we're an honest sort, and won't take a break even
when handed one unless we earned it.)
The debate will go on I'm sure. Very few skippers who race PHRF are
happy with their rating unless they're winning every race.
RE: The Jubilee Regatta
I'm biased of course, but I think for the second year in a row JYC put
on the best regatta in the Salem Bay series. Dave Campbell and company
deserve credit for a well thought-out, well executed series.
... Bob
|
845.142 | | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Mon Sep 12 1988 15:41 | 17 |
| I had thought that I was the first one to mention
that Claddagh would be tough, but no, Bob deserves the
credit.
As for ratings, the only way to make them more equitable is to
fine-tune several boats, not bomb one or two. Giving
Fat Tuesday at 60 would only make you guys as paranoid
as we are on Bo. Not good -- we're nearly burned out.
One more race -- maybe two -- next weekend, and we hang
up our sails. Phew!
I might be available for a fall race if anyone needs
some rail-beef -- that's about all I'll be good for.
;)
|
845.143 | | MPGS::BAILEYB | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Mon Sep 12 1988 15:58 | 7 |
| Dean,
If you guys aren't doing the JYC Last Race (Oct. 2) you're welcome to
sail with us.
... Bob
|
845.144 | Fall series = guest appearances | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Sep 12 1988 18:25 | 15 |
| Dean, or us ;^). Seriously, we are doing the Hodder, probably going
to skip the Manchester Sunday race, do the Manchester fall series
the 24th & 25th (with guest appearance by Bob Bailey) and the last
race Oct 2. THINKING about the Manhasset fall series in L.I. Sound
by NYC. Such a pain to deliver the boat back at the end of October,
though. Did it two years ago and it was COLD. Great regatta, though.
The amount of times we have sailed by Coalition and Arbella with
Jim Taylor aboard, we will probably get hit unless he raises the
Taylor 40 ratings. I'd rather see the T40's raised, but we'll see.
Wouldn't mind seeing the J35's go to 75. I just know something has
to give.
Dave
|
845.145 | | MANTIS::FACHON | | Mon Sep 19 1988 12:57 | 17 |
| What a way to end the season -- watching Claddagh HJ the
fleet. Still, a fun race, and a wonderful day to be
on the water.
Looks like the following for the overall Mrblhd standings:
1st Claddagh
2nd Fat Tuesday
3rd Bodacious or Loose Goose
Bob, how did WAGS make out in the match race?
What's the Fall party schedule?
;)
|
845.146 | What a pig! | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Sep 19 1988 17:32 | 11 |
| What's this "end the season" stuff, Dean? Still several more races
to go. Anyway, the day was beautiful, but no fun on Fat Tuesday.
We could not make the boat go at all. Very frustrating to watch
Loose Goose and Claddagh sail right past us. We tried everything.
Checked the prop and for snagged debris. Nada. Oh well, hope the
boys on Claddagh had a good laugh.
And then again, maybe we were sandbagging for the PHRF rating boys.
Dave
|
845.147 | Can I Play Too ? | NBC::CARVER | John J. Carver | Mon Sep 19 1988 18:25 | 14 |
| If the "real" racing season is just about over... I was wondering
what my chances might be to crew in a race ? Having only a few seasons
experience, I don't know how much help I can be ( I do weigh 140
lbs though).
I gotta believe that there is lots to learn from you racing folks
on sail trim, navigation, water balloon tactics, etc., etc., etc.
Thanks in advance.
JC
|
845.148 | Anyone can play! | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Sep 19 1988 18:34 | 6 |
| John, I believe we're booked up as far as crew, but if that should
change I'll let you know. We like to have interested if less
experienced folks every now and then. Actually, we do that more
on the Wednesday night series during the summer. I owe Alan a ride
too. If we could only put off winter a few months...
|
845.149 | Oh no, PAO'S CAT is catching us again ... | MPGS::BAILEYB | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Tue Sep 20 1988 09:15 | 19 |
| So you think you had a bad day Saturday Dave? You shouldda seen us
(well, maybe I'm glad you didn't). We couldn't even get past a Tartan
41 that we owe 23 seconds a mile to! Needless to say, we didn't beat
the other J/36 out there with that big old Tartan sitting on our air
for most of the race.
But it was a beautiful day to be on the water, and with the season
drawing to a close I'm up for appreciating being out there, win or
lose.
These inter-club rivalries are interesting though. We crossed the line
second (behind SLICKBREEZE), with the next boat more than 6 minutes
behind, and the boat that took first place honors more than 30 minutes
back. ON A 14 MILE COURSE !!!
Sometimes it PAYS to be racing on a cruising boat...
... Bob
|
845.150 | | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Tue Sep 20 1988 10:29 | 12 |
| Re. "sandbagging..."
It certainly looked like it, but then, you guys were
on the wrong side of the "fence." There was a distinct
wind line that divided the course just about down the
rhumb line. If you stayed left, you got an extra
knot of breeze -- on average. Claddagh stayed just
inside on the left the entire way down. Fat Tuesday was
at least 6 boat-lengths too far to the right.
Talk to you later
|
845.151 | | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Fri Sep 30 1988 11:46 | 3 |
| Congratulations to WAGS for winning
the Jubilee YC's Thursday night series!
|
845.152 | A NOTEable season indeed ... | MPGS::BAILEYB | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Fri Sep 30 1988 14:52 | 32 |
| Well it ain't the Salem Bay series but we'll take it ...
It's been a good year. And there's a few fellow NOTErs who have really
contributed to our cause. This NOTES file has been very useful as
far as meeting fellow DIGITs who sail. Ironically some of us have been
sailing in the same fleet for several years and never even knew it.
Personally I think NOTES should be given mention in the employee
benefits booklet. I'd like to say thanks to those who I've sailed
with this year as a result of meeting through this NOTES file.
Thanks Dean and Dave for inviting me out on BODACIOUS and FAT
TUESDAY. During the past few seasons we've asked ourselves many
times "What do those Marblehead guys know that we don't?". Well,
now we know. Look out next year ... :^)
Thanks Gene for coming down and sailing the NOOD with us. Finally,
somebody aboard who understands our main. We still trim it the way
you showed us. Looks like hell but it's fast. Did you ever show
your wife those crew pictures ??
Thanks Lawrence, John Kalinowski, Gene, and Dean for helping us win
on Thursday nights. Now you know why we call these "fun" races (and
why we named the boat WAGS).
And thanks Sue and Chet (and Paul and Julie who won't read this),
who I found through this NOTES file to crew with us all season.
I'll see most of you on Sunday, for the LAST RACE. It really has been
a NOTEable season ...
... Bob
|
845.153 | It's really over! | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Oct 03 1988 15:04 | 16 |
| The Last Race was lots of fun, but also very sad. Now it truly
is over until next year. What a spectacular day for sailing!
Unfortunately, the course was such that of a 22 mile course, only
5 were upwind. Ohter than that, great!
I'd also like to say that this year was enhanced by the noters met
throuhg this file. Hope to get more involved next year!
Also would like to put in a good word for the Jubilee YC. Well
run, level headed races and cheap drinks. Now you can't beat that
can you!
Dave
P.S. Three weeks of cruising and then the fat lady sings.
|
845.154 | | LDYBUG::FACHON | | Fri Apr 14 1989 11:39 | 9 |
| Wake up!!!! The ten-minute gun is about to go off.
Who's who in this year's fleet? Dave, your new Farr
will create the most excitement. I've also heard that
there will be several other new boats in Mrblhd class A,
and that the cut-off this year is 72. Any truth to
that?
Dean
|
845.155 | so we give you guys a five minute head start now ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | too much of everything is just enuff | Fri Apr 14 1989 12:58 | 20 |
| Dean, the cut-off is 81. WAGS is a B boat! And to think, five
years ago we were the scratch A boat for most races. How times
change.
I was just talking to one of Bump Wilcox's crew. Apparently BUMPA
has been sold, and Wilcox has purchased a C&C 37 something-or-other
that rates 76. Another new boat for you guys to watch out for.
Ah well, what with new sails and a different fleet, maybe we'll
be in a position to get the gun again. It's been a few years since
that's happened on a week-end race.
We go in May 7. How 'bout you guys? Anybody else doing the JFK
this year? It'll probably be our first regatta of the season.
Looking forward to getting back on the water ...
... Bob
|
845.156 | Countdown | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Sat Apr 15 1989 01:32 | 31 |
| Three, two, one, BOOM! Get psyched! Almost time! I'm in Hong
Kong where it's 75 degrees and going sailing tomorrow. The bad
news is that our boat "Wildside" has received its new paint and
I haven't seen it yet. Just turned in our PHRF application and
we'll have to see how they rate us. Should be 69, but you never
know.
We're sailing it up to M'head from Newport hopefully the weekend
of the 29th of April. Then it's practice, practice, practice.
The first race is the 14th of May. We won't do the JFK. Too much
tide, rocks etc. We're thinking of doing Block Island, and are
definitely doing Edgartown in July. This "class 40" is sending
us a lot of literature. They must think we're made of money. The
schedule would cost a fortune to do. Plus it would be hard to hold
a job and do it. Too aggressive in my opinion.
As far as crew, we lost our maintrimmer to a full time Olympic Finn
program. Those guys are nuts. Our foredeck guy's wife is having
a baby of all things in July so he's had to grow up and drop out.
Fortunately, we picked up a couple of guys last fall who are at
least as good and probably better. Again, we made a huge effort
to keep the crew cohesive over the winter by doing lots of social
things together as well as sending them constant updates on how
the new boat was coming along. Can't emphasize enough how important
that is.
There is a PHRF spring meeting the night of the 25th. We'll get
an idea of fleet competition then.
Dave
|
845.157 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | too much of everything is just enuff | Wed Apr 26 1989 09:29 | 15 |
| Ran into the skipper of CLADDAGH at Jubilee this past week-end.
According to him, there's a lot of controversy going on in M-head
about the new A fleet cut-off. Also, some of the ratings changes
(including theirs) are being challenged. To quote him, "nothing's
definite yet." Well, it better get definite soon. The first race
is in less than 3 weeks.
Maybe they should hire a good lawyer and take it to court. It worked
for Fay. :^)
Let the "games" begin ...
... Bob
|
845.158 | Correction | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Apr 26 1989 14:51 | 13 |
| Re:-.2
Correction. The PHRF meeting is the 27th of April at the Boston
YC in Marblehead. 7:30 planned starting time.
Re:-.1
Ofcourse Claddagh want to challenge their rating change. Wouldn't
you? If all you had to do was sail around the course the right
direction and stay out of trouble to win, you'd not want to have
to work for it either.
Dave
|
845.159 | What Happened to IOR | STEREO::HO | | Wed Apr 26 1989 15:00 | 8 |
| What ever happened to IOR racing locally?
All the boats that now race in A fleet would have been in the IOR
fleet a few years ago. Can't be due to lack of $$$$ given the decline
in A fleet cutoff.
- gene
|
845.160 | IOR-B-Dead | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Apr 27 1989 17:52 | 22 |
| A lot of the boats in A fleet would not rate very well in IOR.
An Express 37 couldn't sail anywhere near its rating. The Taylor
40 is another boat not designed to the IOR. I think the same has
happened as elsewhere including the SORC. The kind of boat that
works well in IOR is not appealing to a lot of people. I find that
to be a shame. The idea of a numerical formula with no room for
objective monkeying around is great. In my opinion the problem
is with the formula. Should require minimum interior accomodations
like the IMS rule is attempting to do. Our new boat is an IOR dropout
with a decent interior. If I had a family that wanted to cruise
also I would not have chosen this vessel. Simply requires too many
skilled people just to keep the mast in the boat.
You are right. Money can't be the only issue given the amount people
are spending on the new IMS racers. It is value that is the problem.
The Frers 41 is a case in point. Not cheap and not well laid out
for racing, but a great compromise boat for someone who has a wife
to answer to. Spending all that money on a boat only suited for
racing is extravagant indeed.
Dave
|
845.161 | | DICKNS::FACHON | | Fri Apr 28 1989 14:09 | 21 |
| The 89 SORC only had 8 -- only eight -- entries that
raced the entire circuit. PHRF and IMS drew the most
participation.
Ironically, the IOR has given rise to the "popular"
50 foot and maxi classes in which the competition is
fierce. Other than these hybrid "one-designs," however,
the IOR has run its course. I agree with Dave, though;
the theory is good.
1st race in 3 weeks? I know BO won't be there -- save for
a miracle.
I sure will miss duking it out with you guys this summer.
I hope to make the occaisional party, though, and with
any luck I'll be out for a race or two.
Dave, where is your boat?
Later...
|
845.162 | Spring series, PHRF | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon May 01 1989 16:39 | 43 |
| First race is the CYC spring tune up on May 14 (Sunday). The next
is the 21st (EYC). We'll be there. Brought the boat up from Newport
this weekend. Made the trip from Portsmouth RI to Marblehead in
17 hours fighting the tide through the canal the whole way. It
is now in Marblehead harbor not too far from M'head Trading.
Went to the PHRF meeting last Thursday. (Talked to Jon there, Dean)
and it was wierd. They are scoring all overnight racing 1.5 times
the points scored towards the season total. They said it was to
encourage more participation in the overnights. These were mainly
the older guys with less than competitive boats that have a chance
in the crap shoot that night racing is. I pointed out that this
bucks the national trend towards less night racing and fealt that
they should be scored at 1.0 times not penalizing those who choose
not to do them. They didn't buy it at all.
On the subject of night racing, they will also be enforcing that
ridiculous rule about having no legs over the side after sunset.
This is not safe and a major error that will be corrected by the
ORC in the future. In the mean while, when do you determine sundown
when it is cloudy? If you are in the middle of a fierce tacking
duel and the sun sets how many skippers would be the first to direct
their crews to pull the legs in?
It was also decided that approximately 60% of the races would use
portable marks to ensure at least on true beat per race. Amazingly,
there was lots of sentiment against this!
The B fleet will begin at 81 instead of 91 (last years cutoff).
This puts the Soverals in B fleet, something the exixting B fleeters
weren't thrilled about. A fleet looks very healthy.
The new rules were talked about too. They will not give out copies
of the rules and encouraged all participants to join USYRU. Bully!
Anyway, the meeting was interesting and just reconfirmed just how
diverse the racing fleet is in the Marblehead area. After the
miserable delivery from Newport, we're looking forward to some warm
summer days and good racing!
Dave
|
845.163 | the times they are a'changin ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | too much of everything is just enuff | Tue May 02 1989 09:11 | 38 |
| Oh sh!t, forgot about that PHRF meeting. Meant to get Wagner there
somehow, but we were up north skiing.
So the 'B' fleeters weren't thrilled about the Soverel 33's joining
'B' fleet, eh. Well, what about the J/36's. Toward the end of
the season we were beating both Soverel 33s pretty consistently.
With a little luck, most 'B' fleeters will remember us from seasons
prior to last year, and take us lightly.
SLICKBREEZE has a new owner this season who tells me he plans
to race, so you may be seeing them out there more frequently (the
new owner is from M'head). I hear CELESTE has been sold, so I guess
we won't be seeing them around. Don't know if HIGH ZOOT will be
racing or not, they were pretty inconsistent about it last season
(except for the NOOD regatta).
And, unfortunately, SHEHERAZADE (sp?) also joins 'B' fleet, with
an 87 rating. Hopefully they won't endanger anybody this year
trying to win a race. We still owe those guys for the dirty tricks
they pulled in last year's PHRF New Englands. Hopefully we can
repay them by kicking their butts around the marks this year.
Dave, did you mention earlier that one of the Soverel's was sold?
Which one? Too bad. I enjoyed sailing against both of those boats
last season. Since the J/36s and the Soverel 33s had the same rating,
we could almost race one-design.
Don't know if we'll make the CYC spring tune-up. Would like to,
with new sails and instruments to try out (fully battened Doyle
main + new light #1, and OCKAM instruments). Probably will race the
EYC tune-up though to prepare for the JFK Regatta, which will be
our first serious race of the season.
Gettin' psyched! Guess it's time to hang up the skis ...
... Bob
|
845.164 | The season's underway at last ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | too much of everything is just enuff | Mon May 22 1989 08:58 | 33 |
| Finally got to sail yesterday. It was a nice day for a race, and the
EYC race committee did a good job of setting a course in very variable
winds. I'm going to like racing a lot more if we get to keep doing
Gold Cup and Olympic type courses. With those winds the race could've
been a disaster if they had used regular marks. There was almost 90
degrees difference between the first windward leg and the second.
Using portables is going to be one of the big improvements this season
if they can do it as intelligently as they did yesterday.
I'm also going to like being in 'B' fleet this year. Now we get to
watch the 'A' fleet and figure out the wind shifts and holes during
these light wind legs. At least it works till ya pass them ... :^)
And there's going to be some FIERCE competition in the fleet.
Yesterday there were three boats with identical ratings leading the
pack ... us (J/36), a Soverel 33 (formerly AMBUSH), and a brand new
J/33. We got one good wind shift that put us out in front of the other
two, but they stayed right with us for the entire race and finished
within 1-1/2 minutes of us and within a boatlength of each other.
It's going to be real competitive at the front of that fleet this year.
Dave, nice boat. I'd like a closer look though (like say from the
deck, hint hint). Frac's a little different than you're used to,
isn't it? I'm sure it won't take you guys long to get it cookin'.
Took our first Marblehead win since mid-1984. I guess somebody forgot
to tell WAGS it wasn't an 'A' boat anymore.
It's going to be a good season ... JFK next week-end in Boston.
... Bob
|
845.165 | We tanked... | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon May 22 1989 10:04 | 16 |
| Congrats to WAGS. They sailed a great race. Beat us across the
line and they started 5 minutes behind us! The 70 degree shift
on the first leg caught us owning the right side of the course when
left was the place to be. Oh well. We didn't break anything and
the rig is still vertical. We had moments of great speed but have
a LOT to learn about this beast. We raced with the cruising main
instead of the new main just in case we screwed up.
We aren't doing the JFK next week end. Out list of things to do
and fix is as long as a DEC meeting. Bob, you are welcome any time.
By the way, have you slimmed down? Looks like it! A couple of
other noters swung by on Saturday afternoon too. Always good to
meet the faces behind the names!
Dave
|
845.166 | | HKFINN::FACHON | | Mon May 22 1989 13:35 | 13 |
| Way to go Bob! Wish I could've seen you guys.
Could be the year of the WAGS... ;)
Still haven't seen your boat, Dave, but am
looking forward to it. Keep after the main
and you'll find the groove.
"Bo-bo" should be out there soon. She's in the
drink. Jon just needs to tune-up.
Have fun!
Dean
|
845.167 | Question from a rookie | NETMAN::DRUEKE | | Tue May 23 1989 23:49 | 33 |
|
This may seem like a silly question, however ....
Tomorrow (Wed.) is the 1st night of the Wed night race series off
Marblehead (sounds logical, huh?) and the weather forecast is
for rain. Under what conditions (how much rain) does it make sense
for us to stay haome and not drive the roughly 100 miles to find
out the race is cancelled?
This will be our first racing experience and I know the rules talk
about race postponements, and cancellations etc with flags but
if its pouring cats and WAGS, is the race comm. really gonna go
out and hang up the cancellation signal? I also understand the
potential danger of thunderstorms, went through 12 in one day
aboard TRANQUILITY on the way to Bermuda a couple years ago.
We've put a lot of effort into getting the boat ready, just got
back home after another shakedown and doing some more 'stuff'.
Ok, Ok, its ELYSIUM, a C&C 29 Mark 2, owned by Dave Carter
(of wine drinking fame) crewed tomorrow (maybe) by
John Carver (BEGINNINGS), and myself (along with the wino).
We'll be in C class and hope not to see too many 'C' flags
in front of us. At least we'll be able to see where the
'B' boats go (and maybe some of the 'A's!).
Anyway, we're up for this and don't mind getting wet to get
experience.
What's the answer?
|
845.168 | but consider the comfort factor ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | too much of everything is just enuff | Wed May 24 1989 08:23 | 14 |
| Usually one of three conditions that cause cancellations ...
... no wind
... excessive wind (30+ and building)
... dense fog
A little rain never hurt anybody. But it's a drag steering when the
water's running off the mainsail and down your neck :^) ...
Best of luck ...
... Bob
|
845.169 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed May 24 1989 09:51 | 20 |
| They don't cancel very often. One or more of the following have
to occur:
Committee boat drags anchor.
Race committe members get too seasick to continue.
Far end of starting line not visible due to fog.
In the event of no wind, the time limit occasionally expires but
they'll try to shorten the course to make the race count.
I'd recommend showing up. Some other crazies will be out there.
Remember this is a money making venture for the sponsoring club.
No race, no beer sales.
Good luck and go fast.
- gene
|
845.170 | JFK Regatta was memorable ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing by the tide | Tue May 30 1989 09:05 | 105 |
| If I had to describe the JFK Regatta in one word, it would be
"exciting". There was big wind both days, which made for some fast
racing and some major mishaps. There were a LOT more boats than last
year (something like 170 entries). There were 14 'A' boats, and 25 'B'
boats registered for the race, along with 'C' through 'G' fleets (two
fleets for cruising class). There were also a couple of 12 meter
boats out there match racing. Senator Ted was on one (WEATHERLY). The
other was NORTHERN LIGHTS.
Saturday started out sunny and calm. In fact, it was so calm they
postponed the race for about an hour waiting for some wind. The first
leg was a short beat to a portable mark in the outer harbor. This leg
was essentially in light wind, although the breeze was building to the
point where we were reaching the top end of our light #1. Then we
turned downwind for a long run to Tinker's. This entire leg turned out
to be a very satisfying duel between us and a couple of J/33's for the
lead. During this leg we could see the squall moving in, but we were
engaged in a game of nautical "chicken" with our competitors to see who
would be the first to shorten sail before we got hammered. As it
turned out we managed to round the mark before it happened, one
boatlength behind IO (the J/33 from M'Head) and about two boatlengths
in front of MADRIGAL (the J/33 from Hingham). Just a few boatlengths
behind us was ANNAPURNA, a MIRAGE 338 who won A fleet honors at this
regatta last season.
Just about 5 minutes after rounding the mark, the you-know-what hit the
fan. The breeze suddenly went from a steady 20 knots (true) to the
mid-30's with gusts up to 50. Things got very exciting then. We were
in the hunt for the lead with IO when a gust tore our jib out of the
headfoil. Unfortunately for us the luff rope was stuck in the metal
feeder at the base of the headfoil, and we had to cut it to get the
sail down. So for the next several minutes we had to sail bareheaded
while someone went below to tape the luff so we could get the sail back
up. That cost us, but not too badly, as we had plenty of boat speed
but couldn't point with the fleet. However, I noticed several other
boats in both A and B fleet having similar problems.
Then one of the panels on our new main developed a couple of tears in
the kevlar. At this point we considered dropping out of the race to
save the sail, but decided we were doing too well not to go for it.
Happily the main held up and we crossed the finish line just behind IO
and ANNAPURNA, to take a 4th on corrected time. Not a bad day, even
though we then had to get our main, #3 jib, and .75 chute to the sail
loft for overnight repairs.
Several boats were apparently caught unaware when the squall came in.
One S2.5 didn't get their chute down, or their preventer off the main
and were hit with a gust that literally stood the boat up on it's
stern. The boat sank in seconds. The skipper is a good friend of
Wagner's, and he told us later he and the crew just had time to jump
overboard before the boat went down. They were rescued almost
immediately. To add insult to injury, they wouldn't even serve the man
a drink at the tent later because he had no ID. We took him down to
the boat and made him some of my Irish Coffee's till he was comfortably
numb.
Sunday there was no question about what kind of day we were in for. It
was WINDY out there, with a steady 26-30 knots (true), and gusts up to
40. They decided to cancel all the races except A, B, and C fleets.
Apparently the 12's raced, but they didn't start in the normal sequence
because I didn't see any sign of them out there, and they're kind of
hard to miss.
We got an early preview of how our day was going to go right at the
start. Approximately 5 seconds before the start, the reef line in the
main broke. So we had to do the start with our main flopping around
while one of the crew rigged another reef. Not good. However, we
managed to claw our way through the fleet on the first leg, which was a
3.5 mile beat to a portable mark. We were still the third boat around
the mark, just seconds behind IO and ANNAPURNA.
However, about a mile into the second leg we took a knock like you read
about. We saw the gust coming and I tried to choke down the chute to
minimize the impact. However, when we rounded up I neglected to let go
of the sheet in time and we broached. Then when I finally did let go
the sheet was wrapped around some deck hardware and we got pulled over
on our side so far the winches on the cabin top were under water.
While we were struggling to release the tension one of the crew decided
the water was too close to the companionway and cut the halyard to
relieve the tension on the rig and let the boat come back up. Probably
the right decision, I was getting a little worried about the rig too.
So we winched in the chute and put up the #1 jenny for the rest of the
leg. This really put us out of contention, as most of the fleet had
passed us during our recovery and those behind us that were carrying a
chute passed us on the way to the mark.
The third leg was a close reach, and we managed to pass about half the
fleet. But it was really too little too late, and we took 19th for the
race, and a 10th for the regatta in 'B' fleet.
Overall it was a pretty well run regatta except for the starts, which
got screwed up because the RC didn't do the sequence they said they
were going to do in the skipper's meeting. There were several protests
of the RC among 'A' fleet, particularly by those boats who missed the
start because it happened 10 minutes sooner than advertised. But I
thought they set good courses, making good use of portables to ensure
that we didn't have to sail a reach-around course like last season.
Got to say, I think the week-end served to work ALL the rustiness out
of the crew. It was exciting.
... Bob
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845.171 | What a weekend | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue May 30 1989 17:47 | 17 |
| Anybody out there do the Figawi? We were onboard rewiring the nav
station listening to the pounding rain and howling wind as well
as the NOAA weather reports from various locations on Saturday.
Nantucket was reporting 200 yds visibility and strong squalls.
Another perfect day for that race, I quess.
Our crew member who races Finns now was doing the JFK on Saturday
and pitchpoled his boat. Said it was the closest thing he's ever
had to an "out of body experience" flying over his boat like that.
Nothing hurt but his position in the fleet ;^).
We don't race on Memorial weekend in order to give our crew one
last chance to do non sailing things with families etc. But watch
out next weekend!
Dave
|
845.172 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing by the tide | Wed May 31 1989 13:40 | 21 |
| Couple more thoughts from the JFK ...
... I noticed CLADDAGH managed to get their rating bumped back up to
75. They did very well this week-end, taking Saturday's race after a
protest by WIRED II was disallowed (against the RC for screwing up the
starting sequence). They look like they'll still be "the boat to beat"
in A fleet this year.
... I think IO is going to be "the boat to beat" in B fleet this year.
That boat is very fast. And after racing against those guys three times
in the past couple of weeks, it's obvious to me the crew has raced
together before. They looked real sharp in the JFK.
... I was talking to one of the guys who crewed on NORTHERN LIGHTS on
Sunday afternoon. He was complaining that the crew of WEATHERLY sent a
diver overboard prior to the race to remove the propeller. Is this
fair? Is it legal?
It's definitely "yacht racing" ...
... Bob
|
845.173 | asks he with a grin ..... | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Wed May 31 1989 14:17 | 7 |
| re -.1:
Since when has fair been part of yacht racing? (Sorry, I couldn't
restrain myself!)
:-)
|
845.174 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed May 31 1989 14:19 | 12 |
| There was a photo from the JFK in Monday's Globe of the class B
third place finisher "Pagasus". Looked an awful lot like a J-30.
Have they reduced the J-30's rating to put it in class B?. They raced
in class C at 144 when crewed on one. It was hard not to win at
that rating.
After reading the first hand accounts of last weekend, I don't feel
at all bad about not getting my boat in yet.
- gene
|
845.175 | PEGASUS is a J/29 | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing by the tide | Wed May 31 1989 14:59 | 19 |
| Hi Gene,
PEGASUS is a modified J/29. It rates 114, and sails to that rating
very well. A "standard" J/29 rates 128 and sails in C fleet. I'm not
sure exactly what makes the rating difference. I just noticed when I
saw it on the dock that it has a heck of a long spinnaker pole.
PEGASUS finished about 8 minutes behind us on Saturday, to beat us by
about 30 seconds corrected time. Incidentally, to give you an idea how
competitive B fleet was this week-end, there was less than 5 minutes
corrected time between 1st and 10th place in Saturday's race.
Despite the mishaps, I wouldn't have missed this week-end for anything.
Big wind just makes things that much more challenging and exciting.
And you forget about the discomfort after a hot shower and a drink
anyway.
... Bob
|
845.176 | there are some honest racers out there ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing by the tide | Thu Jun 01 1989 15:26 | 17 |
| RE .173
>> Since when has fair been part of yacht racing?
I think it's always been a part of yacht racing. Unfortunately, only a
small part. There are plenty of people at the level that I race who
would rather lose a race then win it by unfair means. You just don't
hear that much about them because they don't win that often.
I guess asking if "removing a propellor is fair" is kind of an
unecessary question. Not in my mind it isn't. But I thought there
were rules specifically preventing you from removing stuff like that
before a race. Does anybody out there know, one way or the other?
... Bob
|
845.177 | | ASHBY::NELSEN | | Thu Jun 01 1989 17:47 | 9 |
| re removing the prop..
I don't know the applicable rule(s), but a factor would be whether the
rating for the boat were calculated on the basis of the prop there, or
removed. I have the impression that ratings are different if a boat
has a folding vs a non-folding prop.
Don
|
845.178 | | DICKNS::FACHON | | Fri Jun 02 1989 10:42 | 4 |
| 12's weren't designed with props factored into their
formula. Removing the prop brings it closer to its
true rating.
|
845.179 | | ULTRA::WITTENBERG | Secure Systems for Insecure People | Fri Jun 02 1989 10:54 | 33 |
| About the prop: The USYRU rules don't mention it, so the question
is what the class rules or the applicable rating rule specifies.
If they were racing under the 12 Meter rule, removing the prop is
almost certainly legal. If they were racing under IMS, PHRF, or
IOR it depends on how they were rated. The ratings do take into
account the size and type (solid, folding, feathering) of the
prop. If she was rated with a prop, she must sail with it. Another
applicable rule is that most of the "offshore" rules require the
boat to be able to go at hull speed under power, so removing the
prop would violate that rule.
As to "fair" in yacht racing: It used to be part of the sport,
even at the highest levels. Look at Buddy Melges, Elvstrom, or
Dave Perry (who writes about racing and rules for "American
Sailor".) College racing has much less respect for the rules, and
as the college sailors got into bigger boats, the level of
fairness went way down. Sailing is set up as a "Gentlemen's sport"
Enforcement of rules is on the honor system. We don't inspect
boats between races, and measurements are done on the assumption
that one only has to worry about inadvertant errors. When these
assumptions fail to hold we no longer have a sport. This is why
Olympic caliber sailors were suspended for cheating (trying to
hide water bottles that were above the legal maximum in one case
and using 2 jibs in a regatta that limited everyone to one jib in
another).
Reading the rules carefully and finding loopholes (publically) is
fun and part of racing. Outright violations of the rules have no
place in racing, and intentional violators should be suspended
from racing for years.
--David
|
845.180 | OK - I'll ask again! | NETMAN::DRUEKE | | Thu Jun 08 1989 00:29 | 21 |
|
OK, so 3 weeks ago I asked about canceled races off Marblehead and
the basic answer was a)no wind, b)too much wind, c) a variety of
reasons that the committee boat couldn't make it.
So, it was a little wet tonight but the winds were available
and nobody showed!!
What happened?? And how did you guys know not to show up??
We went for a sail anyway, winds were light, the rain subsided, in fact,
quit, and we got to try out the newly acquired drifter. It works great!!
So?......
Ray.
|
845.181 | WIMPS !!! | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing by the tide | Thu Jun 08 1989 08:42 | 13 |
| Ray,
I was there. I couldn't believe they cancelled because of a little
rain. I just stood around the Corinthian and shot the breeze with the
crews from "the Goose" and "the Dog". They were anxious to race.
Must be that the RC doesn't own foul weather gear or something.
See ya tomorrow in Scituate ...
... Bob
|
845.182 | Rain = no show? | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Jun 08 1989 13:00 | 9 |
| We didn't show simply because of work schedules and the lousy weather.
Can't believe the committee cancelled! Wednesday nights are only
really good if it's nice out in my view.
Have fun on the overnighter. Won't see us. We'll be home in dry
bunks. We'll be out on Sunday, though.
Dave
|
845.183 | two out of three ain't bad ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing by the tide | Mon Jun 12 1989 09:33 | 134 |
| Whatta week-end! Ours started Thursday night, when we easily won the
JYC Thursday night race in light winds. Unfortunately, weather-wise
that was no indication of what was to come.
Friday we sailed the boat to Scituate for the Chapman Bowl overnight
race. As usual when going somewhere, that arrow at the top of the mast
served as both wind indicator and destination pointer. 24 miles dead
upwind in building southerly winds and heavy seas. By the time we got
to Scituate, everything on the boat seemed to be wet and the crew was
feeling a little beat up.
About a third of our regular crew couldn't make this race, so we were
joined in Scituate by fellow Digits Dave Carter, Walt Clark, Ray
Drueke, and Lawrence Weiser. As fate would have it, the RC decided to
postpone the race till morning due to impending thunderstorms. It
turned out to be an uncommonly good decision. Given the storm that
passed through during the night it would have been strictly a survival
test. I mean, we had 3-4 foot seas inside the mooring area, and the
rain was coming down in sheets.
Since everybody showed up Friday night expecting to race, we decided
to go out to "test the waters" so to speak. Wonder what our
competition thought seeing us go out into that mess for a "practice"
sail. It turned out to be a short ride though, as we sailed out with a
reefed main, #3 jenny, 9 bodies on the rail, and still were grossly
overpowered. So after about 1/2 hour we decided to turn around and
just wait till morning to do any more sailing.
They decided to shorten the race to about a 32 mile course on Saturday
(about a third of the usual course length). The RC decided on a chute
start, sending us off to a whistle off of Humarock (about 7.5 miles
downwind). We were in 'A' fleet for this race, so our competition was
COALITION (Taylor 40), WIRED II and SCIROCCO (Frers 41's), ARRIGATO
(C&C 41), and MADRIGAL (J/33). LOOSE GOOSE and CLADDAGH both decided
not to race.
SCIROCCO had trouble getting their chute up at the start, and were
quickly behind the rest of the fleet. We never saw them again after
about the first two miles or so. WIRED II looked like they parted a
halyard about halfway up the leg, and fell behind while they recovered.
So by the time we got to the first mark it was a four boat race, with
COALITION about 3 minutes in the lead on MADRIGAL. We were just a
couple of boatlengths behind MADRIGAL, and ARRIGATO was just a few
boatlengths behind us.
The second leg was a 16+ mile beat to an approach bouy out in the
shipping lanes. Early in the leg we passed MADRIGAL, and were actually
making time on COALITION. At one point ARRIGATO passed us, but the
next time we crossed tacks we were in front of them again. About
halfway through the leg the other three boats all decided to go in
closer to shore, presumeably to get out of the big waves. We thought
it was the wrong thing to do, as we were on a lifted tack. So we
stayed out. After a while though we were questioning our own wisdom
and decided to go back and join the party. When we crossed tacks with
COALITION again we were still only about 3-4 minutes behind them. But
we had left MADRIGAL well behind us, and ARRIGATO had lost about 1/4
mile to us by tacking inside. By the time we reached the next mark it
was a 2 boat race, with us just about 4 1/2 minutes behind COALITION.
We made our most major boo-boo at this mark, as the tide and waves were
sweeping us into the mark and we had to make an emergency hitch at the
mark to avoid hitting it. That cost us almost a minute, and by the
time we rounded COALITION was steaming away into the horizon.
The last leg was a 8 1/2 mile run dead downwind to the Scituate Harbor
entrance. It looked like COALITION was going to make their time on us
for a while (they had to beat us by about 11 minutes). But we were on
the opposite side of the course, and when we came back together at the
entrance, it was obvious they had no more than a 5 minute lead. We
timed them around the entrance bouy and were ecstatic to realize they
weren't going to make their time on us.
The finish line was just a few hundred yards from the entrance bouy,
and shortly after we crossed it COALITION sailed by and congratulated
us. ARRIGATO crossed third, about 12 minutes behind us. MADRIGAL was
about 20 minutes back, and we were moored and the boat cleaned up by
the time the two Frers 41's crossed the line.
Ironically, we couldn't wait around for the official results or awards
presentation because we had to get the boat back to Beverly for the
Lambert Cup race on Sunday. So I still haven't seen the official
results. But I would guess that COALITION took 2nd, MADRIGAL 3rd,
ARRIGATO 4th, WIRED II 5th, and SCIROCCO 6th.
Sunday we were back in 'B' fleet. Again there were only six boats
racing in our fleet. This race was about the same as last year, with
the RC setting one leg between two portables. The race was three beats
and two runs between these two marks.
As it turned out, one of our part-time crew was sailing on KATABOTIC
(or KATATONIC, as we have dubbed her). We ended up in a dogfight with
those guys, and virtually ignored the rest of the race (to our mutual
disadvantage) but had a hell of a time in the closest thing to a match
race we've been in this season.
The comedy boat dragged anchor during the starting sequence, and in 'B'
fleet it seemed only us and HIGH ZOOT failed to notice. What was a
square line when we did our checking turned out to be favored at the
pin end by about 25-30 boatlengths by the time the starting gun went
off. So we came roaring in at the boat end, hardened up, and then
realized we were almost shooting the line on starboard tack.
At the first windward mark, we had made up most of our distance, and
were in a dogfight with KATABOTIC, who were about a boatlength behind
us. We popped our chutes almost simultaneously, and sailed
side-by-side virtually the entire length of the leg, with them rounding
the mark just a few seconds in front of us. We passed them again on
the second beat, and were about two boatlengths in front of them at the
second windward mark, but they passed us again downwind. This second
downwind leg was really hairy, as it seemed we were on the verge of
broaching most of the time. We went into the "death roll" several
times, but managed to recover each time. Seems we learned some lessons
from our experience in the JFK. KATABOTIC was about 150 yards from the
mark when their halyard parted, dropping the chute in the water. We
thought that would be our opening, but they recovered very nicely,
getting the chute out of the water and the jenny up in less than a
minute and maintaining a slight lead. We rounded the mark on their
stern and headed back upwind for the finish. They had us nicely pinned
and tacked to cover us each time we tacked. The last 1/4 mile or so
was really exciting, as were were literally side-by-side heading for
the finish line. At the line they beat us by less than 1/2 boatlength.
But it turned out that DARK HORSE took the gun, with ELAN about a
minute behind them, and KATABOTIC and us about a minute or so behind
ELAN. We didn't go to the awards presentation, as most of the crew
just wanted to go home to a hot shower and dry clothes. But I would
hazard a guess that DARK HORSE won. They seemed to have made their
time on ELAN, and both us and KATABOTIC owed them time.
Another fine week-end of yacht racing in heavy weather. Oh what a
feeling.
... Bob
|
845.184 | Sunday's Madness | MEIS::WALKER | Derek Walker | Mon Jun 12 1989 20:40 | 36 |
| We were exhausted after Sunday's race; I can't imagine having tacked
that on top of a schedule like the one you guys had, Bob!
Here's the report from Sunday's 'C' fleet. We started with 13 in class.
With the conditions the way they were, we were too busy to notice the
change in the line, it was still square as of out last sighting, but
by the time we got near enough to notice, we had to take a couple of
tacks to get across. 3 boats were more alert, however and were got a
running start on Port at the pin end. Among these was CELEST, which
shrunk over the winter from a J/35 to a hot new J/27. She's already
a handful.
We clocked the wind as high as 30 knots (steady). It was pretty much
a constant 22+ but there were oscillations caused by the land effect
near shore (and the weather mark). We were third around, and wanted to
gain on the chute-less leaders, so we did an immediate set, and all
h*ll broke loose. We started with a multi-wrap hourglass, which
filled at the top. In that type of breeze, such a thing does not come
out easily! We took a few "death rolls", got it cleared, and appeared
to be stabilizing when a couple of quick gyrations came, followed by
a full, cockpit-filling broach occurred. The topping lift parted, so
that was the end of our kite flying for the day.
The toll in our class was one snapped mast on QUICKSILVER and a blown
out main on DESCENTE, which was stupid, cuz we passed them to weather
on the first leg as they blew to leward of us trying to carry a full
main.
I didn't stay for the results, but we appeared to only lose a boat or
2 during the fiasco. Our course was shortened to 3 legs, to our
relief. It was certainly more exciting than the August doldrums!
- Derek
VIGILANTE Crew
|
845.185 | Gimme Room at the Rail!!! | STEREO::HO | | Tue Jun 13 1989 10:25 | 42 |
|
We had adventures of a slightly different flavor on Touche during
Saturday's one-design races. The boat had gone in the water the
previous weekend without any time for tune-up or any of the usual
pre-race prep. So the game plan was to get out there Friday night
to set the shrouds and stays and calibrate all the running rigging.
When I got there all the boats in harbor were bobbing like corks
and I became slightly nauseous standing on the dock equivocating
on what to do. Decided to bag it. Bob - you and wags must have
downed quite a few at the bar to go for a test sail under those
conditions.
Next morning we got out to the boat only to see the main halyard
twirling around the masthead. The wave action had vibrated the
shackle loose and up it went. After a fruitless search for my seat
harness I remembered that I hadn't put it on the boat yet. Wasted
the better part of an hour with boat hooks and spinnaker poles trying
to retrieve the halyard. Finally got fed up and shimmied up with
the spinnaker halyard tied around my waist to keep me from turning
into deck pizza. Got it down but didn't much enjoy doing it. Still
a bruise on my chest from the jury rigged harness.
Anyone sailing on Saturday should remember the residual 5' swell
and light air. A perfect recipe for you-know-what. We arrived
at the starting line just as the gun went off. At that point the
helmsperson announced that she could no longer steer. After handing
me the tiller she headed for the rail and passed out. I was having
a hard retaining my breakfast which I really wished I hadn't eaten.
Then the foredeck hand announced that he didn't think he'd be much
use up there and proceeded to join the helmsperson on the rail.
Time to head home. But we were a good 4 miles out at that point.
Luckily there were two more crew who were still healthy. They got
us back alive but minus some gastrointestinal fluids. They joked
about calling for a tow but some of us were tempted to take that
seriously. Ironically, the two healthy crew had just called at
the last minute to come out.
We'll try again next week but I heading for the drug store tonight
to lay in a big supply of scopalomine.
- gene
|
845.186 | preparation & medication | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing by the tide | Tue Jun 13 1989 13:15 | 16 |
| RE .185
Gene, as a matter of fact I had just made a round of Irish coffee for
the crew when the subject of a practice sail came up. Everybody
quickly agreed it was worth a shot. Everybody also quickly agreed when
the subject of turning around came up. I've got a lot of faith in the
boat's ability to sail in those conditions, but it was pretty cold and
uncomfortable out there. One of our crew called the RC's decision to
postpone an "admirable" decision. I think that was an understatement.
As a matter of practice I always keep the boat stocked with Dramamine
and Bonine. We went through a lot of them this week-end, and there was
still at least one seasick person on the boat for each race.
... Bob
|
845.187 | | HKFINN::FACHON | | Thu Jun 15 1989 11:34 | 10 |
| re .183/.186
Jeez, will somebody shut this windbag up! Gets a couple
of bullets under his belt and he thinks he's Gary Jobson.
;)
Nice work Bob! I hope to be on the water by mid-July.
|
845.188 | So I'm verbose, sue me ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing by the tide | Thu Jun 15 1989 12:19 | 7 |
| Gary who ?? Sorry, I'm just too excited. Only thing better than
beating COALITION is doing it with a bunch of fellow Sailing Noters on
board. Only wish you coulda been one of them.
... Bob
|
845.189 | | HKFINN::FACHON | | Thu Jun 15 1989 13:04 | 7 |
| Maybe I should've said Jim Kelly...
Come August, save me a spot on the rail
for Thursday nights.
;)
|
845.190 | Summerset Regatta | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 19 1989 08:28 | 25 |
| The Summerset race was yesterday. What a great day weatherwise
and racewise. Class A was like a one design fleet with all boats
rating the same (69) except two (one was 66 and the other 72).
Made for much more fun than normal. Claddagh was mercifully in
Block Island. Anyway, we're finally getting some speed out of our
new boat Wildside. The course was Olympic triangle with three
windward legs. Came down to a tacking duel between ourselves and
an Express 37 tall rig, Jazz on the final leg. Our driver crash
tacked once without the crew being ready and the heavy #1 ripped
at the spreaders about three feet worth. Well Jazz saw this and
started throwing in more tacks to try to get us to rip it all the
way. No way to change sails without sacrificing the race so we
gutted it out. The sail held together enough for us to pull ahead
of Jazz at the last moment and beat them over the line. The bad
news was that while all this was going on Bodacious had taken
possession of the left side of the course and came out of nowhere
to get the gun about fifty yards ahead of us. Great work on their
part. They don't seem to miss Dean at all :^).
Didn't see Wags out there. Where were you Bob? All agreed in A
fleet that it's days like yesterday that keep us all coming back
for more.
Dave
|
845.191 | We were out there ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing by the tide | Mon Jun 19 1989 08:59 | 27 |
| Hi Dave,
You're right about yesterday. It was the best sailing weather of the
season so far. We were racing in the "Chowder Cup" regatta yesterday.
This is an annual Jubilee event which we always look forward to. It's
sort of like a long Wednesday or Thursday night race, no chutes. The
JYC advertises it as a "fun" race to encourage non-racing members to
come out. Actually, it's a "sort-of" race. I mean, they sort of have
a committee boat to start the race (one of the entrants). They sort of
have a course (carefully chosen to be mostly a reach, nobody wants to
work too hard). The first boat across the line gets the honor of being
the official time keeper at the finish line. But it is fun, and the
chowder and drinks back at the club afterwards are always first rate.
Dave, we saw you guys rounding Tinkers. We were about a mile away,
coming from Newcombs, as you were rounding the mark. From where we
were it looked like you were leading. Nice work. It's easy to pick
out that rig, it's the only fractional in 'A' fleet.
Anyway, after the last three week-ends most of our crew were up for a
nice relaxing day on the water. We got what we wanted. Altogether a
great day to be sailing, whether racing or just out for cruise.
Back to real racing next week-end in the Patton Bowl.
... Bob
|
845.192 | Summerset Regatta | GIAMEM::TRAINOR | Dinghy Thingies | Mon Jun 19 1989 09:32 | 35 |
| Dave, you're right, it was a great race. I was sailing on Bodacious
and we couldn't believe our recovery after being called over early.
We were forced to go right, while everyone else went left. A couple
of good lifts later and we were first to the windward mark. Downwind,
I don't think that there are too many boats that are going to sail
with your boat Dave. You guys look light, and with all the sail
area on that tall rig of your's, it's like you're riding on a rocket
sled. Wildside had us by the reach mark, and then at the leeward
mark we could see you shaking your head as we rounded so close behind
you guys, and pointed up inside of you. On the next beat, neither
left nor right was favored very much, so we stayed left, and when
we finally got a visual on the mark, we were on the rumb line, while
Wildside and Jazz, who caught us on the beat, were high. They both
rounded ahead of us, but we stayed close on the downwind leg. On
the final beat we stayed left once again and caught a couple lifts,
while Wildside and Jazz started their tacking duel, but even before
that happened, we figured that we would have finished inside of
the 48 seconds of our handicap, but it would have been close.
Jon kept toying with the idea of going to our #3 as the winds reached
18+mph, and we even started with the #3, but on the first tack after
starting, we put up the #1. We had to dump the chute twice on the
second reach, after we lost tiller control, but we got her under
control again. Actually, we had what we consider a heavy crew with
9 on board, nothing compared to what you guys carry Dave. However,
it just isn't the same without Dean.
We were also glad that Claddagh was at Block Island, but Dave, you
look like you are finding your groove with Wildside.
You're right though, these are the races that bring you back for
more.
Charlie
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845.193 | a thought about the fleets ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing by the tide | Mon Jun 19 1989 09:44 | 17 |
| I think we're going to be seeing a lot more "dogfights" like the one
between WILDSIDE & JAZZ and the one we had a week ago with KATABOTIC.
I think that moving the cut-off rating for A fleet down to 80 made
both fleets more competitive.
In A fleet most of the boats are concentrated in the 63-72 range, and
as Dave pointed out there are a lot of boats with a 69 rating. In B
fleet most boats are in the 84-90 range, with five of us rating 84.
It's gonna make for some interesting races and close finishes this
season. But as we both found out, it's often not advantageous to
get involved in a match race, since your goal is to beat ALL of the
boats in your fleet. But it is exciting, and it sure helps you tune
for speed.
... Bob
|
845.194 | To Match Race, Or.... | MOOV01::TRAINOR | Dinghy Thingies | Mon Jun 19 1989 10:16 | 13 |
| But, Bob.....
Do you avoid a duel and settle for second, or if you are leading, ask
the guy in second to stay where he is, so that you can beat the guy who
is riding the flyer? Or do you duel, pray to come out unscathed, and
then try to get back in the race with the guy that's on the flyer?
It's a tough decision. I don't think that if I were skippering
Wildside, I would have done anything different. How can you take the
chance?
Charlie
|
845.195 | a tough call ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing by the tide | Mon Jun 19 1989 11:47 | 22 |
| You're right. Once involved in a tacking duel, you really have to
stick with it. My observation was that it frequently works out to the
disadvantage of both boats, because while both boats may be cranking
for max boat speed, they're seldom sailing the most efficient race
course. And smart skippers like Jon can usually figure out a way to
take advantage of the situation. Same thing happened last week. Both
DARK HORSE and ELAN slipped by on upwind legs while we were duking it
out with KATABOTIC. Simply put, while we were concentrating on gaining
advantage over each other they were concentrating on sailing the
smartest course to the next mark.
I saw it happen a lot down at the NOOD last year, where tacking duels
were very commonplace. It seems like the best strategy is to avoid
tacking duels if possible except in situations where it's a two boat
race and you've got the advantage.
On the other hand, that side of me that craves excitement however
illogical says "go for it". Tacking duels can be fun, win or lose.
... Bob
|
845.196 | You gotta gamble every now and then | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 19 1989 12:20 | 21 |
| Charlie brings up a good point. In my original note I made it sound
as if we had written off Bodacious on the last beat. Not so. But
when they went left and Jazz went right we had to make a choice.
As the tactician I figured if we split the difference and played
the middle the best we could do was second. One of the corners
was going to beat us. Jazz was showing good speed and the right
had payed off the first two beats so that's where we went. As it
turned out we had a lot of second guessing after the race including
the driver who had mumbled something about not losing Bo along the
way. We gambled and lost. This time. It was fun though.
Wildside is fast off the breeze as long as it isn't a run. Fracs
just don't have the spinnaker area that a masthead does. Our polars
are pretty extreme on a run. Lots of jibing necessary. As I said,
we have lots to learn.
Bob's right about the fleet splits. It is so much more fun to not
have to worry about handicaps to a great degree.
Dave
|
845.197 | | DICKNS::FACHON | | Mon Jun 19 1989 12:54 | 25 |
| This is great, I can find out how my boat does in the "news."
Good on you for making it Charlie. And thanks for the kind
words, but if Bo makes a habit of winning without me, I guess
I'd better keep off. ;)
Dave, from what Jon tells me, when it pipes up, WILDSIDE
can pace Bo on a run -- without a chute.
About Claddagh being there or not, I think you guys should
ignore her regardless. Treat her as an obstacle on the course,
but don't base your tactics on her. We've lost more than one
top-3 finish by chasing her rating -- then 77. I don't
think 75 is sufficient to get real excited. If they have
another season of bullets and get knocked to 73, then it will
be time to get serious about racing her. On the other hand,
I hope she does prove vulnerable at 75. But don't bet the
race on it!
Sorry if I offend the "you can't change the rating just because
they win" crowd. I don't mean to re-open the on-going debate;
I just happen to think their rating is wrong.
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.198 | | GIAMEM::KEENAN | | Mon Jun 19 1989 13:14 | 4 |
| Does anyone know the dates for the NOOD regatta this year?
-Paul
|
845.199 | ex | STEREO::HO | | Mon Jun 19 1989 14:22 | 6 |
|
According to the latest edition of Sailing World, the NOOD will
be held 8/16-8/20 in Newport.
- gene
|
845.200 | Fine points of raising | MPGS::KTISTAKIS | Mike K. | Mon Jun 19 1989 15:23 | 10 |
| I am not a racer,as a matter of fact not even a cruiser yet,but I like
to see sailboat racing and I follow this particular note.Unfortunatly
for me I don't even have the weight to ask for a balast position.You
know,the position that you hang your legs on the side and look that the
boat cannot move without you.
Anyway, all of you the knowlwdgeble racers can learn more about
the fine points of racing,and what can happen during it by reading
note 20.2 of UK_SAILING.
I am still crying from laughing.
|
845.201 | 20/30 chute for fracs ??? | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing by the tide | Mon Jun 19 1989 16:33 | 13 |
| Dave, our friendly neighborhood Doyle sailsman suggested something
called a 20/30 spinnaker. Ever heard of it? From what I gather it's a
.6 oz deep cut with broad shoulders. Supposed to be a good sail for a
fractional when running.
I don't think we'll be laying any money down for any more sails for a
while though. We're extremely happy with the new main. Wish they
hadn't lost the new light #1 we ordered. But we seem to be doing OK
without it. Of course, most of our races so far required the #3.
... Bob
|
845.202 | ex | STEREO::HO | | Tue Jun 20 1989 10:11 | 26 |
|
re. the .6 ounce chute:
SYZYGY (J30 with penalty pole) bought one a few years back from
Doyle. We were very disappointed with the results. Depth and breadth
made for a temperamental sail which collapsed at the slightest whim.
We could fly it on dead run with the pole out at 90 deg but once
we headed up it slowed us down vs the 3/4 reacher. There was no
offsetting increase in speed on the run.
Doyle's best chute for frac's is their .5 ounce reacher/runner. Cut
like a reacher but lighter. Use it when reaching in light air or
gybing downwind on the run leg of a G or O course. Depends on attached
flow for its effectiveness. J's and other light frac's just can't
run and go fast at the same time unless it's survival conditions
out. Even then gybing downwind is faster if you have the nerves
to do it.
I've used both a full cut runner and light reacher on my own boat.
Unfortunately I own the runner an borrowed the light reacher. Wish
it were the other way around.
- gene
|
845.203 | Anybody know when the Red Lobster Cup is this year | STAR::KENNEY | | Wed Jun 21 1989 16:03 | 19 |
| A couple of questions.
1) Does anybody know the date of this years Red Lobster Cup held in
central Florida. I know it is usually in early december but I need
a date. Bettter still an address or phone number of the organizers.
I have to go down to Florida in the next six months and if I could
hit it when the race is going on so much the better.
2) I would like to get some experience in running races. I have read
the USYRU race handbook and helped some last year at a copule of
races. The thing is the poeple running the show knew even less than
I did. Now that I have seen how not to do it I would like to see
how the bigger boys do it. Some of you must know some race
directors who need extra people to help out. Rather than clutter
this note up just send me mail at STAR::Kenney.
Forrest
|
845.204 | This one I'd rather forget about ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Mon Jun 26 1989 11:12 | 58 |
| Once again the Patton Bowl proves to be a memorable occasion for the
WAGS crew. But for all the wrong reasons.
The RC did a pretty good job setting up a course, and the weather was
beautiful for sailboat racing. But we just couldn't get things in sync
on Saturday.
We started out by fouling another boat (KATABATIC) coming off the
start. To exonerate ourselves we did a 720, which pretty much left us
at the back of the fleet heading to the first mark. That didn't seem
to hurt us too much though, as we were still the 4th boat around the
first mark, still in pretty good shape to be competitive.
It was a strange day for reading and predicting wind shifts. One of
those days when you'd pass half the boats in the fleet on one tack,
only to lose it all on the next. At one point we were in the middle of
the course, watching boats on both sides of us getting lifted ... on
opposite tacks. Like I said, it was strange. We finished the race in
a very forgettable 10th place (out of 13).
Sunday was both better and worse. Better because we got off to a good
start and sailed the boat smarter. We were the second boat around the
first mark. Then the first disaster of the day hit. As we popped the
chute the sheet somehow got wrapped around the foredeck cleat. Julie,
our foredeck person, managed to clear the sheet, but got her fingers
caught in the cleat in the process, breaking one finger and bruising
another. So we lose one of our important players for a few weeks now.
Despite the mishap, we managed to pass REGGAE, the only boat in front
of us, and pretty much pulled away from the fleet on the downwind leg.
Then the second disaster of the day happened. When we went to drop the
chute the halyard jammed and we couldn't get it down. Now, we've had
problems with that halyard in the past and usually can clear a jam like
this without too much problem. Not this time though, obviously because
there was an island in the way and we HAD to turn upwind real soon. So
we gathered in as much of the chute as possible and sent someone up the
mast to pop the halyard up at the fractional point. Imagine the thrill
of being suspended 50 feet in the air while going upwind with the chute up.
Not good. During that fiasco we were passed by four boats. We ended
up staying in the race though, and were the 4th boat to cross the line.
However, we took 7th on corrected time.
It was a week-end for the Frers in B fleet. VAPOR TRAIL and REGGAE,
both Frers 33s, did very well finishing in the top 3 both days. DARK
HORSE, a Frers 36, took the gun on Sunday after getting off to a
terrible start and proceeding to sail an extremely fast race to pass
everybody on the 3rd leg.
Both WILDSIDE and BODACIOUS looked real good at points during the A
fleet race. Couldn't really keep track of things, but both skippers
collected hardware at the awards presentation.
This is the third year in a row we've lost crew to injuries during the
Patton Bowl. Maybe we should skip this one next season.
... Bob
|
845.205 | | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 26 1989 14:03 | 25 |
| Like Bob said, Saturday's race was forgettable. We got a fourth
but Lightning won. Lightning normally couldn't win a lottery, so
that says something about the impact of the flukey wind shifts.
Sunday was great! Solid wind, plenty of sun, good racing, but a
short course. We got the gun at the finish. Aurora, a C&C custom
43' was right behind. We thought they rated the same as us so we
had been only loosely covering them concerned only with crossing
ahead of them. Not until we got to Manchester YC at the cocktail
party did we find out we owed them time. They corrected out ahead
of us by 2 seconds. S--- happens. Still, we had the pleasure of
knowing they spent about $8000 yesterday for that win. They were
behind us on the downwind leg when I looked behind and said our
main trimmer "Look, Aurora has a half-ounce chute up. Are they
nuts?" (true wind about 18 knots). The trimmer responded saying
"Maybe it will..." BOOM! The thing blew up before our eyes! I howled!
Later they dropped their 3/4 oz. chute into the water on the take
down and it filled under water and blew up too. Like driving a
Toyota off the foredeck. Gone. Hood sails will be happy, though.
We're getting some speed out of the boat finally and it really is
fun.
Dave
|
845.206 | | TUNER::HO | | Mon Jun 26 1989 14:26 | 35 |
| OUCH!!! I hope Julie's not too badly hurt. Sounds like more than
just a few weeks before she's back on that foredeck. Wish there
were more foredeck persons like her.
The only injury sustained on Touche this weekend was a severe case
of brain damage incurred by the skipper at some point in the morning
prior to the race. In a significantly impaired mental state, he
readjusted the forestay length thereby invalidating all the calibration
marks on the running rigging. These had been laboriously put on
only the week before. Now, instead of saying "put the main on #7"
we had to resort to terms like "fullness", "body", "draft", "fineness",
etc. Great for wine tasters but not for the racecourse.
When we finally got out of the harbor, our four eyed skipper proceded
to sail to the ocean racing committee boat instead of the one design
start. We didn't realize the error until we saw all those kevlar
sails. Etchells don't have kevlar sails. Of course we missed the
start. Since we crossed the line on starboard we figured we just
keep going. There was at least a 50% chance of being right. We
tacked at the corner and, wonder of wonders, we were back in the
middle of the fleet. But trimming uncetainties kept our speed down
and one by one the boats behind walked on us. On the run, the wind
appeared to lighten so I changed to the light jib for the beat back
up. However, I did this about 3 minutes from the takedown mark.
At the mark rounding I still didn't have the new sail up. We had
to sail for another five minutes barheaded. Then the wind picked
up to the high teens. And there we are with a light jib up rated
to only 12 knots. We crossed the finish line on our ear in guess
what place.
The skipper goes in for a lobotomy this week. One more race like
that and a downpayment get made on a stinkpot.
- gene (aka Mr. DFL)
|
845.207 | sometimes it doesn't pay to get out of bed ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Mon Jun 26 1989 15:21 | 25 |
| RE .205
Dave, did I tell you about the 5 foot tear we put in out .75 chute
yesterday? And we did THAT at the mooring!!! Talk about a bad day ...
we've been keeping the folks at Doyle very busy so far this season.
RE .206
Gene, sounds like you've been reading my reply to another note ...
"Take heart amid the deepening gloom that although you finished dead
last, at least you didn't sink".
As a friend of mine is fond of saying, "shifts happen".
Julie will be OK. She's tough. Even with a broken finger she was
volunteering to go up the mast when the halyard got stuck. Needless to
say we sent someone else.
Can't wait till next week-end so we can go out and do it all over
again. Am I nuts or what?
... Bob
|
845.208 | another fine race ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Wed Jul 05 1989 08:45 | 62 |
| Yesterday was the Eastern YC Annual (July 4th) Regatta. Once again the
weather was perfect for sailing and the EYC race committee did an
excellent job of running the race.
The course they set was a gold cup course, with the windward leg being
to a portable mark, then a reaching leg to Newcombs, another reaching
leg back to Tinker's (the starting line), then upwind to the portable
and downwind to Tinker's for the finish.
Mother Nature's capriciousness played a part in the outcome again
due to unpredictable wind shifts. Prior to the start we watched the
wind oscillate back and forth in roughly 10 minute cycles. So we
decided to play the oscillations. At the B fleet start, we crossed
the line and immediately tacked to get to the right side of the course,
which was headed, but we figured the wind was due to shift back any
time now. As fate would have it, the oscillation never came. And by
the time we decided to bite the bullet and get back with the fleet we
were about 3 minutes behind the leaders (less then five minutes into
the race!!!).
There were 11 boats in 'B' fleet, and 5 of us rated 84 (two Soverel
33s, KATABATIC & BODICEA; two J/33s, IO and MADRIGAL; and us). By the
time we rounded the windward mark, the other four were lined up like a
parade, with only about a boatlength or two between each. Trailing
that pack was DARK HORSE (Frers 36), ALIBI (C&C 40), then us. Shortly
after rounding the mark we passed ALIBI, along with the trailing A
fleet boat, SMOKE (Soverel 36?). The fleet leaders pretty much held
their positions for the next three legs. DARK HORSE made a good move on
the second beat, going wide left and catching some fresh breeze to edge
out both Soverels at the windward mark. At that point IO was ahead, as
she had been since the start of the race, with MADRIGAL and DARK HORSE
close behind. Upon rounding the mark, the three leaders decided to
follow A fleet to the left side. We went right, along with both
Soverels, looking for better wind and a favorable shift. We got it.
On the last leg we passed both J/33s, DARK HORSE, a J/35 (sorry 'Bo),
and a J/40. The two Soverels beat us across the line, with KATABATIC
taking the gun, and DARK HORSE made their time on us by less than 30
seconds. So we ended up with a 4th.
Earlier in the season I predicted that IO would be the boat to beat
this season in B fleet. Now I have to revise that. KATABATIC is
making a strong showing, and DARK HORSE is always tough. In fact, it
appears that DARK HORSE is becoming to B fleet what CLADDAGH is to A
fleet. She's consistently sailing with boats that owe her time. But I
give them credit for sailing smart and finding the wind when nobody
else can. At one point, when the wind nearly died on the second
windward leg, I wrote them out of the race because of their move left.
But then the breeze filled in for them first and they came out smelling
like a rose.
We congratulated our competitors right after the race, and blew off the
awards presentation. Dave, I assume STARLIGHT EXPRESS made their time
and took A fleet honors. Boy that boat (Santa Cruz 70) is a thing of
beauty to watch going by under chute. Imagine living with a -66 rating
though.
Another memorable day to add to what's shaping up to be a good racing
season.
... Bob
|
845.209 | Got the fleet right where we can see 'em | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Jul 05 1989 10:43 | 27 |
| Can't believe the same thing happened to us as to Bailey. We went
right at the start and waited for the shift to come as it had been
doing for the last hour we had been taking wind readings. And waited.
And waited. Oh s--t, no shift. I have never fallen so far behind
so fast in my life. The leaders were six minutes ahead at the first
mark (not including Starlight Express, the Santa Cruz 70 who was
GONE). We were a pretty dejected crew. Then we decided to just
see how many of the sixteen in our class we could win back. At
the jibe mark we were in 14th out of 15th place with only the hapless
Smoke behind us. On the reaching and second upwind leg we got back
three boats and on the final run we got back five more and finished
right up there in the pack again, getting a seventh out of sixteen.
Another mistake was that we ended up carrying 13 crew, about four
more than necessary, adding about 800 lbs to the boat. Found out
we are very weight sensitive and just can't do that without a huge
degradation in speed.
The Taylor 40's were conversing on the radio during the starting
sequence on what headsail they were using (light vs heavy #1).
Is this legal? I couldn't find anything that specifically rules
it out. The Taylor 40 Sheherezade is pretty damn fast, I must say.
All in all, I didn't think it the perfect racing day Bob did, but
not bad all around. No more racing until Edgartown.
Dave
|
845.210 | | HKFINN::FACHON | | Wed Jul 05 1989 11:08 | 15 |
| Hi guys,
Hate to admit that I was out there yesterday -- unofficially.
Out once before too, but keeping a profile -- except for
low
tactical input! Yesterday, Bo had the worst race of her
career. Not only did we consistantly sail the wrong side of
the course, but we had some fouled up sail-handling. Not that
it mattered. There were some unhappy campers aboard. The phrase
"Fachon shift" became the curse of the day.
I'll say hi next time I'm out -- 1992 or thereabouts...
;)
|
845.211 | shifts happen ... constantly | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Wed Jul 05 1989 12:11 | 18 |
| RE .209
Dave, you're complaining about too many crew? Did you see what we had?
16 people showed up to race. We farmed out 2 to another boat and raced
with 14. I think the same way you do, too many people in light wind
slow you down. But the skipper disagrees, claiming it won't hurt if
you distribute the weight properly. Maybe a good subject for a Notes
discussion ??
RE .210
Dean, glad to hear you're sailing again finally. Too bad it had to
begin on such a low note but there's a lot of season left and you guys
are sure to have some good days coming up.
... Bob
|
845.212 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed Jul 05 1989 12:21 | 45 |
|
It finally happened. TOUCHE finished out of the cellar for the
first time this year. With our veteran crew, Chris Nolan's inspired
analysis we finally figured out how to get speed out of our new
Wave jib. Tacked lower, with the lead block back an inch to open
up the leech and a bit less backstay we developed the drive we had
been lacking to power through the chop. All of our weekend races
have been in chop while the thursday nights had been on smooth water.
Plenty of speed in the smooth stuff but until now, light air and
chop had us baffled.
Those ten degree oscillations that everyone mentioned perplexed
the race committee as much the sailors. They kept changing the
windward leg right up until the last minute before the start. First
one side of the line was favored then the other. The fleet kept
moving like a swarm of bees from one end to the other. But we got
a start of with just one general recall. On saturday it took three
recalls before we had a clean start.
After an acceptable start we lost as much as we gained on the shifts
arriving at the windward mark with big contentious cluster of boats.
Much interboat advice was exchanged as we jockeyed for position
on the first reach. After the gybe, the second reach was a tight
one with #711, named ROLL'EM about to do just that to us. The wind
and waves had built by this time and we were moving at a good ten
knots. Just as ROLL'EM surfed to within 10 feet of our stern we
caught a large wave ourselves and went ballistic. ROLL'EM disappeared
in our rooster tail. Conditions conducive to this don't happen
that often but when they do, there's nothing like planing an Etchells.
We gained a few and lost a few on the remaining legs to finish in
an OK position.
On the run home after the race, only 2 out of the 24 boats set chutes
- a sure sign of crew exhaustion. The last leg was windy and wet
with a lot of short tacking. We were all soaked to the skin. At
that point we were envious of you guys in the big boats with dry
cabins and gentlemanly three speed winches. We ended the day with
considerably less skin on our hands than we had when we started,
Dave: if any of your 800 lbs. spare crew know what a spinnaker if
for, I'd like to talk to them. We're a bit shy on that kind of
expertise (and beef) on Touche.
- gene
|
845.213 | Fat is slow | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Jul 05 1989 14:12 | 25 |
| Re: -.1 Sure, some of guys are intimate with spinaakers. As for
sailing an Etchells, I'd like to join you some time. We could work
a swap.
Bob, I can tell you that too many guys hurt a ton. Just imagine
adding 1000 lbs of lead. Sure, your stability increases but your
wetted surface goes way up too. We normally don't let guys take
their seabags on board if it looks to be nice all day. We keep
our tanks empty and any (and I mean all) non essential gear on the
beach. All this to save weight. And then I get soft hearted and
let half the town of Marblehead sail with us on the fourth, because
all of a sudden our entire circle of crew are available at the same
time. Between yesterday and the prior Sunday when we had eight
guys, we added that 1000 lbs. The boat felt constipated. Sluggish
and impossible to get really moving. NEVER again. Those crew with
the best attendance record get first crack in those situations from
here on.
Dean, we were going nuts trying to pass you guys for a lot of the
race. Only on your excursion to the right on the last upwind leg
did we lose you, and that was due to shifts. Didn't look for you
to be on board so I didn't say hi. Next time I'll look.
Dave
|
845.214 | | HKFINN::FACHON | | Thu Jul 06 1989 13:33 | 14 |
| re -.1
Like I said, I was trying to keep a profile.
low
In keeping with that, I'm sure the crew was ready to strap
me to the bottom of the keel by the end of the race.
Wildside is a very pretty boat, and it's evident there's
some real speed potential there. Good luck in Egg'head Town.
Dean
|
845.215 | on a slow week-end ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Mon Jul 10 1989 09:03 | 19 |
| Went out to watch the start of the Halifax race yesterday. Couldn't
believe all the hundreds of spectator boats out there. You'da thought
it was the America's Cup. Never saw a race start by beating up a
"corridor" between hundreds of boats like that before. Those guys
musta been gasping for air in there. Dave, WILDSIDE looked like a
floating Bud Light commercial with all those people on board.
Lots of large expensive toys in that race. Anybody know what that big
(70'+) boat with the dark blue hull and the quad spreader rig was??
Other than impressive, I mean.
Yesterday's wind shifts, combined with the spectator crowds, must have
made for some very interesting starting tactics for those guys.
Wish I'da been on one of those boats ...
... Bob
|
845.216 | A fun Sunday | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jul 10 1989 09:22 | 20 |
| Bob, we had 19 on board, not the eightenn I told you. Had some
fun watching the start. The big blue you saw was a custom Swan
80 footer. The starts were incredibly sloppy with some guys not
starting until minutes after the gun. Don't know what Starlight
Express' strategy was. At the start they ran down the line to the
leeward, not crossing even though the gun had gone off, and then
crossed at the leeward end. I think the purpose was only to ensure
that they sailed through the spectator fleet.
I saw Gene out there among the hordes. I don't know about you,
Bob, but the part I liked best was just knowing I'd be coming in
and going home to a dry, stable bed. If you've ever been to Halifax
you know it's not a place to spend a lot of effort getting to.
Then somebody has to beat all the way back. No thank you.
We are being hauled today to fix a cracked strut that holds the
cutlass bearing. Down to E'town Friday night.
Dave
|
845.217 | | STEREO::HO | | Mon Jul 10 1989 10:31 | 42 |
|
Definitely a change of pace to be out there on a non racing day.
First time we've done that on touche this year. Forgotten how pleasant
it can be. Bob, we saw WAGS heading back in as we were beating
out in that light slop by the Cat Island bell. We waved but I think
you were too far away to see. Dave, tell the truth. Did you have
19 life jackets aboard? I had 8 on the Etchells one year and the
coast guard made us hold up all our life jackets. We were shy one
but I guess they couldn't tell from looking. There were actually six
Etchells out there NOT racing. Those owners are usually so hard
core they never sail their boats unless racing for fear they'll
wear out their sails. Some of them even had their families on board.
Unprecedented. Must be getting mellow.
The one-design fleets raced on Saturday. They brisk wind of the
early morning stirred up a bit of chop but the velocity didn't hold
through the afternoon. That made for a difficult call on the sail
of the day. Conditions were borderline light-heavy. I called
for the heavy but the wind never really made it into the optimum
range for the sail. Not normally a problem but we couldn't quite
re-set our thinking from trim required for the light chute which
has radically different characteristics. Dave Wittenberg was on
board triming main and calling tactics. After my pathetic wimp
out of start Dave found the headers and got us back into the race.
We rounded the windward mark with some boats behind only to hourglass
the chute. Some quick foredeck work by Dave and it was out and
flying. Did the same thing on the next set. Still trying to figure
out the topology on that since we roll the chutes carefully before
the race in such a way to preclude that from happening. Picked
up a few more boats on the last leg only to lose them again on a
slow tack. It was close though. Thought we could get them back
by trying one of David's college racing tricks. Touche's on port
with a boat to weather and there's a starboard tacker that can't
quite cross. We elect to tack and hail the weather boat. The theory
is we lee-bow the starboard tacker and roll over the weather boat.
It almost worked but we couldn't quite carry enough momentum through
the tack. Got sandwiched and gassed. Fun trying though. Still
managed to put some boats between us and the cellar. After seven
years I'm still learning something new every week.
- gene
|
845.218 | Plenty of float | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jul 10 1989 10:44 | 8 |
| We had 22 lifejackets and two horseshoe rings onboard. We were
sure the Coasties would stop us, but they never did.
Dave
Only thing we didn't have enough of was toilet paper. I guess we
never had that many women on board before :^).
|
845.219 | confused coasties ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Mon Jul 10 1989 12:24 | 19 |
|
Dave the coasties probably thought you were in the race. When we were
sitting out by Tinkers they circled our boat and told everybody but us
to clear the area. Claimed they were in the starting area, which was
B.S. 'cause the leeward comedy boat was a good 50 yards to windward of
our position. In any event, they cleared out boats on both sides of us
and never bothered us at all. We just figured they probably thought we
were participants or something.
Funny how they cleared out the area below the starting line like that
and never bothered the boats to windward of the line and the course.
Guess you can't expect a bunch of government stink potters to
understand it's the boats *upwind* of you that disturb your air flow
and mess up your start. Who cares what the boats downwind are doing.
... Bob
|
845.220 | | MOOV01::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Wed Jul 12 1989 13:17 | 6 |
| Is anyone racing in the Volvo Regatta in Newport this weekend?
I'm really looking forward to getting my butt kicked by sailmakers
from all over the US.
-Paul
|
845.221 | ex | STEREO::HO | | Fri Jul 14 1989 11:09 | 5 |
|
Are there any results from the Halifax race?
- gene
|
845.222 | Posted at Boston Yacht Club, partial results in The Globe | WAY2GO::WALKER | Derek Walker | Fri Jul 14 1989 12:09 | 16 |
| Gene,
The unofficial results were posted at the Boston Yacht Club
when I was there on Wednesday. There was also a segment in
The Globe on Monday or Tuesday with information about the
first boats to finish; it was mentioned that more info would
follow, but I haven't seen it yet.
Starlight Express (Santa Cruz 70) was the first to finish for
the monohulls, in record time. The skipper noted that they
had sustained 45 knot winds toward the end of the race.
The Fomula 40 was first to finish in the multihull class.
- Derek
|
845.223 | Confusion was everywhere | CIMNET::CREASER | Auxiliary Coxswain | Fri Jul 14 1989 16:42 | 17 |
| re. 19
Yah But.... wasn't it nice that the race got off to such a nice start!
When you consider the number of spectator craft (estimated 500), the
number of racing craft (estimated 150) and the Intruders (estimated
50), I thought the Committee, the Coast Guard and Coast Guard Auxillary
did a great job keeping it safe for everyone!
I was there, on an Auxilary boat, cann't see how taking "jabs" at the
folks who give the time and energy to make event like the Marblehead to
Halifax Race possible, really adds anything to the sport or
sportmanship!
Jerry
|
845.224 | Re .219 not .19 | CIMNET::CREASER | Auxiliary Coxswain | Fri Jul 14 1989 16:45 | 4 |
| Correction! My reply (-1)
was in reference to reply .219.
|
845.225 | Weight impact | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Jul 14 1989 17:27 | 11 |
| I just got my June Sail mag. Don't know what happened to it, but
I did notice an excellent article on crew weight written by John
Collins. For me to compliment him on anything is sign that I was
really impressed. Wish my mag had come on time. Would have saved
me endless grief two weeks ago.
Leave for Etown tonight! Going to try to break last years transit
time. Shooting for 12 hrs.
Dave
|
845.226 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Fri Jul 14 1989 17:31 | 18 |
| RE .223
The race got off to a start, not a particularly nice one. As Dave has
already observed, some boats started many minutes behind their fleets.
Part of that was due (from my observation) to the mass of spectator
boats behind the line where the fleet was trying to maneuver. There
was nothing even resembling clear air at the starting line. Many boats
just port tacked after the start and weaved through the windward mass of
spectator boats to clear air, so they didn't have to sail through a
half-mile or so of turbulance from all those masts to windward.
You're right though, confusion was everywhere and it wasn't really the
fault of anybody who was trying to help out. I'm sure the RC and the
participants appreciated the help. It would've been total pandemonium
without it.
... Bob
|
845.227 | | STEREO::HO | | Mon Jul 17 1989 09:43 | 6 |
| In past Halifax races they had a fireboat that would cruise in front of
spectator fleet and spray any one that strayed into the starting
area. Discipline was very easy to maintain after a few hosings.
- gene
|
845.228 | The Volvo Regatta | MOOV01::TRAINOR | Dinghy Thingies | Tue Jul 18 1989 11:23 | 73 |
| This past weekend was another one of those interesting regattas, complete
with, "bash those big boats," conflicts. While racing with Paul Keenan on
his J24 in Newport in the Volvo Regatta, we managed to make contact with
four other boats and had to alter course on the "first place overall" boat
in a clear-cut Port Starboard protest with a witness. There was also a near
record crowd of entrants in the J24 class alone with 85 on the same
starting line.
Friday was a great day for racing. There was a slowly building
South-westerly and the threat of storms. The first race was an Olympic
Triangle. We had two great starts only to have them recalled in general
recalls. After the second recall, by the time we could look down the line
to see if there was a recall the race committee had already initiated
another 5 minute starting sequence. It took us a good 3 minutes to get
back to the line and another 1 plus minutes to crack a hole in the
starboard tack freight train, to get to a clear start. This time we must
have been last off of the line, because there just wasn't any air behind
the wall of sails. By the end we managed to claw our way ahead of about 10
boats and with all of the premature starters, we finished in the low 60's.
As we got back to the starting area the skies let loose their wrath, with
thunder, vivid lightning, and buckets of rain. The race committee in their
infinite wisdom, decided to cancel races for the day.
Saturday was one of those days when you sit out there and wait for the wind
to arrive before you race. The North-westerlies on the back side of the
front that went by on Friday didn't have a chance against the warm air
rising in the bright sun. Finally around 12:30 the sea breeze built in,
too late for one of the crew, who fed the fish for the rest of the day.
We decided to get aggressive and started on the comedy boat end of the
line, so that we could get to the favored right side of the course first.
We were the most windward boat as we approached the line on a close-hauled
course with no room for any other boats in there. With less than 5 seconds
'til the gun, a boat of 5 bow beauties called Private Idaho (I Don't Know),
decided that the fiberglass on our boat would stop a beam reach better than
the wood of the comedy boat. To make matters worse, they stayed attached
as best they could until Paul managed to bear off clear the end of the next
boat to leeward, gybe and recross the line, by which time it was catch-up
again. They did doughnuts and finished about 15 minutes after the rest of
the fleet. The right side was favored and we managed to catch the 10 boats
that went left for that race. Again low 60's with the PMS's.
The second race we started down the line about one-third rounded the
windward mark about in the middle of the fleet tried to round inside of a
boat that we didn't have rights over on the leeward mark, made contact, did
a 720 and finished in front of about 12 to 15 boats. With PMS's and DSQ's,
maybe the mid-50's.
Sunday was the around Jamestown with strong Southerlies. We had a good
clean start pretty close to the favored right side. This time the boat
which was #1, Salsa tacks over on top of us to get to the right side first.
We were forced to duck him, yelled protest, he returned with obscenities,
we called to the boat next to us, which happened to have a woman skipper,
for a witness, at which point she replied, "Oh ya, I saw and heard it, I
will be your witness." We continued the race in pretty good condition,
considering Paul was a local to the area and knew how close we could
approach the shores. We rounded the dumplings in about the same place that
we rounded the windward mark in Saturday's second race, but proceeded to
loose boats due to the conditions of our sails, which definitely were not
up to snuff with the rest of the fleet's. Four hours and twenty-five
minutes later, we crossed the finish line with about 10 to 12 boats behind
us. Paul dropped another crew member and myself off in Newport and headed
back to Portsmouth. He logged the protest yesterday. The race committee
charged $30 for the protest in the interest of limitting the number of
hearings that they conduct. The entry fee was $50 and they are trying to
attract the family racers? This caused us to hesitate at lodging the
protest earlier, however, we felt that it wasn't fair for Salsa to finish
first when we had a witness.
For those who have never sailed on one, a J24 is just a big dinghy.
Charlie
|
845.229 | you gotta be kidding ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Tue Jul 18 1989 11:57 | 9 |
| 85 boats on the same starting line ?!?!? That RC should get their
collective heads examined to see if there's anything like sanity in
there. And I always heard they knew how to run races down in Newport.
It's a wonder it was just fiberglass got crunched in a pack like that.
... Bob
|
845.230 | Fiberglass Termites!!!!! | MOOV00::TRAINOR | Dinghy Thingies | Tue Jul 18 1989 12:25 | 9 |
| It was amazing!! We heard lots of that sound of crunching stuff, you
know, kind of like termites eating wood, but there weren't any
protests. I guess those fiberglass devourers are viscous this year.
Paul got the call this morning. Another protest disallowed. Filing
deadline was 2 hours after the finish of each race.
Charlie
|
845.231 | Crash, Bang, Smash 'em up | MOOV01::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Tue Jul 18 1989 12:44 | 15 |
| It's very important in starts like that to tell the crew:
"No matter what - don't fend off. Dings and holes can be fixed, hands
and feet can't."
Good recap Charlie. I'm glad you can remember, it's all a blur to me.
When my brother and I bought the boat last year, we tried to convince
ourselves that the sails were competitive. Probably so because we were out
of money! But the way we were walked over this weekend leaves no doubt.
If we want to compete in big regattas we need new sails.
Can I put my son to work if he's only 8 months old? ;)
-Paul
|
845.232 | protests are a science ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Wed Jul 19 1989 09:48 | 42 |
| RE .230 & .231
Too bad about the protest. As we have found out over the course of the
last few seasons, there's a science to protests. And he who hesitates
almost always loses.
Some basic rules we follow now are ...
1. Always holler over and inform the offending boat that you are
protesting them. If another boat's nearby make sure they heard
you do the informing. Sometimes the protest will be disallowed
if you do not do this, as you did not allow a chance for exoneration.
2. Always inform the committee boat at the finish line of your intent
to protest, providing BOTH the name and sail number of the boat you
are protesting.
3. Always dig through the rules and make sure you apply ALL the
relevent ones. Sometimes you can make a better case with a rule
other than the one you had in mind when you decided to protest.
Besides, protest committees are impressed with preparedness.
3a. Always carry a copy of the USYRU rulebook (complete with protest
forms) on your boat. Fill out a full report of the incident as soon
as the race is over.
4. Always drop off a crew member at the host YC to lodge the protest
right after the race. There are usually 2 hour limits for protests,
so the committee can get on with calculating results and awarding
trophies. And sometimes it takes most of that 2 hours just to get
back to the YC from the race course.
Each of these little rules came about as a result of our losing a protest
due to a technicality. And I'm sure the list will grow with experience.
Paul - If you're gonna look into new sails check out Doyle. They've
put some very competitive sails on a lot of J's, including WAGS &
BODACIOUS. I'd recommend staying clear of Shore. We wasted thousands
on a couple of flat lumpy Shore sails that were never competitive.
... Bob
|
845.233 | | MOOV01::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Wed Jul 19 1989 10:31 | 32 |
| Re -1
You've listed some very good rules to follow. I've had my last two
protests thrown out by breaking every one of them!
On sails, Shore, North, and UK are the leaders in the J/24 class. Shore
sails are probably the fastest. Both Doyle and Hood are trying to break
in. A rep from Doyle met me at Ft. Adams in Newport when I dropped in
the boat this year and gave me some good racing trim tips.
With Shore, you have to fight off the temptation to make them look "pretty"
In most conditions they are fast when they look "ugly".
For example, on a J/24 in moderate
wind the champions sail with: *A little sag in the headstay
*Wrinkles in the Jib luff
*The foot of the Main pulled nearly to
the limit
*One to two feet of backwind in the
main
*Diagonal wrinkles in the luff of the
Main pointed towards the clew.
Also on a J/24, the upper and lower shroud tension is critical. Since
the J/24 is fractional, the lower shrouds control the ratio of draft
reduction (or flatness) between the Main and Jib as you add backstay
tension.
Do any of these things apply to the J/36?
-Paul
|
845.234 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Wed Jul 19 1989 12:21 | 57 |
| Paul,
Your list applies to J/36s too, for the most part. Remember, we're a
fractional rig also.
Sometimes we have so much headstay sag people feel the need to mention
it to us (after the race of course) and we have to explain that it's
intentional.
Wrinkles in the jib luff only in light winds. The heavier the wind
blows, the tighter you want that sucker.
The main's almost always backwinding a little on a beat. If we trim to
eliminate the backwinding we either have to bear off or slow down.
Foot tension varies depending on wind conditions particularly with the
new main. The old Shore main was so flat at the foot that tightening
the outhaul sometimes didn't have any visible effect.
Shroud tension is critical, just like the J/24, for the same reasons.
Another "trick" we use is on downwind legs. After popping the chute and
getting the deck all squared away, take a spare halyard and attach it
to the headstay base. Then crank enough tension on it to literally
straighten the mast out. Can't tell you exactly why it works, but we
get an extra .2 to .4 kts of speed out of the maneuver. I'd be
interested in knowing how this works on a J/24 (and for that matter, on
a Farr 40).
Relative to the "leaders" in the J/24 class, don't you think that's at
least partly a function of location? I mean, they're all located right
there in Newport, along with J-boats. Shore is a leader because of Ken
Read, more than because of their sail plan. I don't know how their
J/24 mains are cut, but our J/36 main was 7 degrees flatter in the
draft for the same trim conditions than our Doyle main is. It was OK
in winds in excess of 10 kts., on a beat. But in light winds or off
the wind we just couldn't get any power out of it. What upset me most
about Shore was that they refused to do anything about the lump running
down the back third of the sail, just behind the draft. There's no way
they can convince me that it was fast. Even their "rock star" rep, who
came up to show us how to trim the thing, couldn't make it keep up with
other boats with similar ratings. All excuses aside, when we got our
Doyle main, we were suddenly very competitive again. Draw your own
conclusions.
I will give them this, they seem to have created a fast #1 genny. We
do like the Shore genny when there's 15-20 kts of wind and we have
enough crew to carry it. It's heavy, relatively flat, and will point
with the best of them. We decided that a big part of the reason we won
the Chapman Bowl was because we were able to carry this heavy #1 while
most of the other boats had to carry a #3. I don't think you'd get the
same advantage on a J/24 though because you can't pile the bodies on
the rail in a good blow like we can.
... Bob
|
845.235 | | MOOV01::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Wed Jul 19 1989 12:54 | 16 |
| I really like that idea about straightening the mast with the jib
halyard. I'm going to give it a try tomorrow night.
Yes, it's true that Ken Read is just about unbeatable with any kind
of sails. But Shore is really a small boat outfit that performs well
when they can support a big local fleet. They put alot of effort into
J/24's. The Main they sell is really quite full.
It's not surprising that you're main was a dog. Back in the early 70's
when Bill Shore was first starting up in Newport, a popular class was
the Ensign. Every time it blew hard the clews and heads of Shore sails
would rip out! A friend of mine bought Bluejay sails that literally fell
apart. They've come along way, but I wouldn't trust them for anything
but high volume - proven sails.
|
845.236 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed Jul 19 1989 13:51 | 26 |
|
re. "the trick"
I can confirm that the halyard trick works extremely well. So well,
in fact, that the Etchells class has outlawed it. Check the J-24
regs to make sure it's legal in your class. As far as whose sails
to buy - go with whatever the current world champion uses. More
often than not, that person is a sailmaker who has invested more
time in perfecting his sails than anyone else. Quality and workmanship
don't count for all that much in one-design sails. Speed is the
first priority, longevity is a distant second. They're only supposed
to last long enough to win a regatta. I'm told that a season out of
a J-24 genny is about a month longer than it's actually good for.
Competitive sailors try to plan their purchases just before major
regattas to have the most pristine sailshape available. If it's
a heavy air venue, the sails will deteriorate visibly each day.
In the Etchells class, Dave Curtis used to make middle-of-the-road
sails that were a compromise between speed and longevity. But the
competition discovered that lighter, fuller sails went faster.
Now the consensus sails use cloth an ounce lighter than before and
condiderably fuller. They work as advertised but every time it
blows out I get this awful ache in my wallet.
- gene
|
845.237 | | STAR::KENNEY | | Thu Jul 20 1989 11:32 | 20 |
|
>Another "trick" we use is on downwind legs. After popping the chute
>and getting the deck all squared away, take a spare halyard and attach
>it to the headstay base. Then crank enough tension on it to literally
>straighten the mast out. Can't tell you exactly why it works, but we
>get an extra .2 to .4 kts of speed out of the maneuver. I'd be
>interested in knowing how this works on a J/24 (and for that matter, on
>a Farr 40).
Funny How things work out I was just rereading "Dinghy Helming" by
Lawrie Smith. In it he talks about making sure that you straighten the
mast up on the run. To quote from the book. "This increases the
effective sail area by adding height to the rig. The balance of the
boat will not change whatever with mast rake, so it is obviously an
advantage to keep the mast upright." Seems to me that is should work
for a larger boat as well.
Forrest
|
845.238 | | MOOV01::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Fri Jul 21 1989 14:12 | 27 |
| Bob,
I checked my class rules and the trick might be illegal.
No "use of a foresail halyard or mechanically adjustable device to
vary the measured length of the headstay".
I'm not quite sure how to interprete this. They might just be talking about
hooking the top end of the headstay to a spare halyard - not the same
as sagging the headstay with the halyard.
Gene,
What are the minimum sail cloth weights for the Etchells class? For the J/24
it's:
Main 240 grams per square meter (dacron)
Genoa 200 grams per square meter (dacron)
138 grams per square meter (mylar)
If there is a very limited life to the sails at this weight, wouldn't
it be in everyone's interest (except the sailmaker) to raise them up?
Shore does sell a heavier weight "Duro" main, it would be nice to
know the speed penalty you have pay.
-Paul
|
845.239 | CYC Midsummer Regatta ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Mon Jul 24 1989 09:21 | 69 |
| This past week-end was the Corinthian YC Midsummer Regatta. This
season they made it a part of the Marblehead Race Week event.
Saturday was a great day for a sailboat race, with steady breezes and
flat seas. The RC set an olympic course, length 16.24 mi. As has been
the case most races this season, we had a dogfight on our hands for
virtually the entire race. There were six entries in B fleet, and
three of us rated the same.
We came off the starting line in pretty good shape, but IO was just to
windward of us. And right after the start she rolled us for the first
time of the race. So as soon as we started eating her gas we tacked
away. About 30 seconds later, KATABATIC tacks to cover us, and we're
eating bad air again. Somehow we managed to pass her to leeward, and
that was the last we saw of them all day.
We spent the rest of the leg crossing tacks with both IO and DARK
HORSE, and almost every tack somebody was passing somebody among
the three boats. Around the first mark it was DARK HORSE, IO and
WAGS, respectively, with each boat about 4 feet off the stern of the
boat in front. We stayed pretty much in that order down the first
reaching leg, and we managed to pass IO right at the gybe mark.
At the leeward mark we passed DARK HORSE as they had a little trouble
getting their chute down. IO rounded right behind us and tacked in
while we and DARK HORSE went out. When we crossed tacks again IO had
about a 4 boatlength lead. This upwind leg was like a one-design race
between the three of us, with every advantage being earned the old
fashioned way and each boat getting the chance to take a temporary lead
at least once. At one point we tacked to cover IO only to have DARK
HORSE tack to cover us. We rounded the windward mark and popped our
chutes side-by-side-by-side.
Coming up the last windward leg, IO found some extra speed somewhere
and put about two minutes on us and DARK HORSE. IO took the gun, but
was edged out by DARK HORSE by 8 seconds corrected time. Furthermore,
VAPOR TRAIL, who crossed some six minutes back, edged IO out by 5
seconds to take second. We took a distant 4th, almost two minutes
behind. KATABATIC took 5th, and MYSTERY took the DFL.
Sunday's race was a completely different affair. They sent us on a
16.3 mile, two-legged race up to Eastern Point and back to Marblehead
bell. The starting line heavily favored the pin end. But when we saw
the rest of our fleet going down there we decided to stay close to the
boat for clear air. After all, what does 100 feet mean in an 8.5 mile
leg. Turns out a favorable wind shift made our decision look like a
stroke of genious five minutes into the race we were 2 minutes ahead of
the next two boats (yup, IO and DARK HORSE).
Halfway to Eastern Point the wind lightened up and downright died.
KATABATIC made a run here, as she's a very good light wind boat. She
managed to pass everybody but us by finding the zephyrs and being on
the correct side of the course when the wind filled in. Sometime
during the lull we managed to put our light #1 genny through a
spreader. I suspect it had something to do with the sails flogging in
the powerboat wake. But we looked up and saw this big hole and our
hearts sank. Now we had to hoist the heavy #1 in light air. But Ol'
Ma Nature smiled on us and by the time we got the sail on deck the wind
started building. By the time we got it hoisted and the light #1 down
it was the correct sail to have anyway. Wow, two breaks in one day.
This was our race! And it was. We rounded the windward mark, popped
the chute, and steamed home (passing some A boats on the way). We took
the gun, the race, and the regatta.
Oh, what a feeling ...
... Bob
|
845.240 | | STEREO::HO | | Mon Jul 24 1989 10:53 | 33 |
| Nice sailing Bob! If you have any surplus speed, put it in a bottle
and send it to me. I could definitely use some of it.
re .238
Paul: the minimum weights for Etchells sails are:
Main - 220 gm/sq. mtr (5.0 oz)
Jib - 238 gm/sq. mtr (5.5 oz)
No one uses a 5.0 oz. main. It's either 6.5 oz in the heavy air
fleets or 5.5 oz. in light air regions. The 5.5 oz is faster locally.
Jibs are mostly 6.5 oz. for both the light air and heavy air models.
The difference between the two is the amount of draft built into
them. The light air model, called the wave jib is much fuller.
Some people use a Doyle 5.5 oz. jib. This is very fast but notorious
for its short life.
Locally the rule of thumb is 1 1/2 to 2 seasons for a set of sails
to be fully competitive. The 6.5 oz. mains can go longer. In
Australia they go through two heavy jibs and one main every year.
For J24s, I'm told the key sail is the genoa. The light weight
combined with the abrasion when being tacked makes for an inherently
short life. But before writing a big check, make sure your tuning
and trim are consistent with the latest thinking. That makes a
big difference in one designs. It's worth speed checking with another
boat in a non racing situation to isolate the source of the speed
problem. You'll be surprized what a difference small adjustments
make.
- gene
|
845.241 | No Neon | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jul 24 1989 15:16 | 73 |
| Just got back from Edgartown Regatta. What a letdown! The yacht
club is determined to kill that regatta and then bitch about it.
The set up is that there are two two-day series seperated by the
round the island race. We had some great competition in PHRF A.
Had the old Sprint, now Idler, that won the SORC 2 years ago, and
the Admirals cupper Sidewinder as the top of the fleet. Our main
problem was another one tonner from Long Island sound with a New
York rating certificate that we owed 9 seconds a mile to. Nine
seconds! Bogus!
Anyway, we, Idler and Scamp did well the first race (we got second,
changed to third based on the rating issue). The second race on
Monday was cancelled due to a freak nor'easter that had 60 knot
winds. We elected not to do the round island race, but two of our
crew did it on other boats. Fast race for most, but foggy and soggy.
Thursday's race counted double due to the cancellation of Monday's.
We (the racers) couldn't convince the committee to hold two short
races on Thursday instead. To make a long story short, it turned
into a drifter and a shortened course. Then to add insult to injury,
the committee set the finish boat on the wrong side of the mark.
To finish properly required sailing around the line and cross from
the back. In the extremely light light wind and the heavy current,
this took a while. Well, those who did finish properly protested
those who followed the committees cue and finished wrong. The race
committee couldn't very well have this kind of protest on the day
a race counted double, so they scored everybody no matter which
way they crossed the finish. Again, bogus.
During the protest Klee Dobra, the commodore and race committee
chairman, said in justifying the setting of the line, "we are basically
there as a courtesy to the finishers as there is provision in the
instructions to take their own time". A courtesy! Then he went
on on how they would really like not to have PHRF racing at all
in their regatta and how they can not have any responsibility to
ensure all certificates are valid and comparable.
I have been going to this regatta for a long time and have been
a real booster of it. Well, forget it. Until they spend some of
the 20 grand they take in from entry fees on a professional race
committee and get the socialite ladies off the launch, it just isn't
worth the aggravation.
Friday's race had a large number of us start with our protest flags
flying as a general message to the committee about our impression
of their skill and professionalism. Really rattled them, but don't
think they give a hoot. People have already started voting with
their wallet, however, and entries were only 65 this year, down
from more than 125 two years ago. They won't get 50 next year.
Too bad. Great venue and fun place to be.
Oh, we ended up fifth out of twenty in our class, even with the
screwy race on Thursday.
We delivered the boat back on Saturday so we could race in the
Marblehead Race Week PHRF race on Sunday. Sunday's race was trouble
and we knew it would be when the flag indicated the beat was to
Eastern Point off of Gloucester in a fickle breeze. The A fleet
got into a huge hole two thirds the way to the mark. How you finished
depended upon where you were when the wind filled. One boat went
way out on huge flyer and got the breeze first. They finished twenty
minutes ahead of the next boat. Not much of a contest of sailing
skill. Dean was was spotted out there again. Bo didn't have a
great time of it either.
Thinking of taking up bowling.
Dave
P.S. Who told all these people that neon clothing looks good? Dpn't
they have mirrors?
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845.242 | Great sailing weekend | MEIS::WALKER | Derek Walker | Mon Jul 24 1989 15:32 | 23 |
| Vigilante had a great weekend too. Saturday's seabreeze filled in
just beautifully. 'C' fleet was extremely tight, with about 8 boats
in contention for much of the race. We were in second or third position
until the final 2 legs where we were able to climb up on the leader,
SEAHAWK, and outpoint her in the building SW breeze on the final leg
to take the gun by 2 minutes. Unfortunately DIFFERENT DRUMMER was
able to catch us on corrected time (we owed her 5 min., beat her by 4),
So we were second on Saturday.
Sunday had a discouraging start as the light NE didn't show much promise,
and there was no sign of the seabreeze returning. We watched as the
shift came through on the 'B's, and decided to start at the boat end.
Unfortunately, about 1 mi. up the course, the wind died. Just when we
were thinking this would not be our day, the NE freshened, and we had
a whole new race. We got a great view the 'A's and 'B's returning
under spinaker including close views of both WILDSIDE, to leward ;-) and
WAGS, to windward ;-(. Would have been a great day to have a camera
aboard. We couldn't catch CELEST, as she got a head start out of the
holes, but finished second, and corrected to third.
Overall, we came out on top. This was a great 2 day series, and a
good tune-up for the New England's.
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845.243 | | HKFINN::FACHON | | Mon Jul 24 1989 16:32 | 34 |
| Congrats to Bob And WAGS. Keep it up and you're sure
to capture overall B-fleet honors and most improved boat
in Marblehead PHRF to boot!!
Bo's Saturday race started just fine until we had a
port/starboard confrontation with Lightning. Admittedly a close
crossing, but even though they cheated up to try and nail us we
cleared by several feet, then they dropped 5 degrees down
to course -- you could see the hard angle carved in the water --
and hollered protest. With no witness to save us, Jon
elected to "720" and be done with it. It was all downhill
from there. Although that protest would have been tough to beat,
in the future I'd elect to stick by my guns -- try to talk them out
of it but never knuckle under. I told Lightning the next day it
was a bogus call and got a limp wave of aknowledgement.
Sunday we started off just fine too, but with the wind going
light I must confess I took us inside. The cruisers close to shore
had breeze, and I couldn't see any evidence of the on-shore filling
in, so in we went. Never thought the forecast would be right?
And I mean RIGHT. We had one chance to consolidate and
stick close to the leader-pack, but you know how tough it can be to
change strategy when you're committed.
There were audible calls for my scalp. Definitely feeling
a bit jinxed.
Beringer next -- I'll go because I'm the only other guy who can
drive. Wish me luck, or I'll be thumbing the next time you see
me...
;)
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845.244 | Coalition Sinks | 32543::HO | | Wed Jul 26 1989 10:09 | 18 |
|
There was an interesting article in the 7/25 Boston Globe about
a local boat en route to the Edgartown Regatta. Coalition (Taylor
40?) was going through Woods Hole when the helmsman tried to shave
one of the bouys a bit too close. The keel struck the ledge below
and partially separated from the hull. Responding quickly to thier
Mayday call, the Coast Guard tried to pump her out but Coalition
sank on the spot in about 30 ft. of water with only her mast showing.
The next day a commercial salvage outfit raised her and towed her
to drydock.
The surprising thing was that the Coast Guard spokesperson said
30+ boats had been lost in Woods Hole last year. Very Sobering.
Every time I've gone through there has been a nervous experience.
There appears to be a good reason for that.
- gene
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845.245 | | 38597::GERMAIN | Down to the Sea in Ships | Wed Jul 26 1989 10:33 | 8 |
| I was scanning an article in Soundings, and it mentioned some of
the problems in Woods Hole ranging from the shoals "clogging" passage
to boaters confusing themselves over red-right-return - the article
says that they seem to forget that returning is defined by passing
from a large body of water to a smaller one.
Gregg
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845.246 | Let's see, port is left and... | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Jul 26 1989 11:00 | 34 |
| It's true, Coalition did sink, but in near perfect conditions to
transit Woods Hole. It seems that they (the delivery crew) had
nearly completely completed the trip from Buzzard's Bay to Vineyard
Sound when the more experienced crew member went down below to plot
the course to Edgartown and plug into the Loran. At the end of Woods
Hole one can go to the right or to the left. In between is a rock
pile. The guy on deck aimed for a bouy marking the left exit while
the intent was to go right. Oops. On the bricks at eight knots.
They Coalition guys had less than glowing reports about the Coast
Guard. Seems that once Coaltion went down she was deemed to be a
hazard to navigation. The "guys from Iowa" (as they referred to
the Coasties) dragged her across the bottom to get it out of the
way which is when the most severe and irreparable damage was done.
I went to see her in Falmouth on the way back from the Vineyard.
Looks like somebody took a giant can opener and just peeled back
the port side from the bow to the chainplates.
Two points here. First is that we never allow deliveries without
at least one owner on board. I don't care how much the delivery
crew is being paid, they just don't care as much as the owners.
Second is that Woods Hole is a very clearly marked passage that
I've transited more than I can recall, but it is totally unforgiving
if you screw up. Have a plan to bail out if the tide is too much
to handle and take time to fully study the chart before going into
the Hole.
We're very sad to see a great boat like Coalition in such a stupid
manner. I'm sure Brian (the owner) will be back with another tough
program.
Dave
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How's this for frustrating? I participated in the Lake Champlain
race this weekend on a C&C 33. Despite having broken my wrist
the week before the skipper still wanted me along for steering
and other small duties as the rest of his crew would be
relatively less experienced. The frustration of a broken wrist was
in not being able to participate in everything. This was not a
problem and certainly not as frustrating as the finish would prove
to be. The race is over a 120 +/- mile course and typically takes 1.5
to 2 full days to complete, if we finish at all. Champlain has light
and variable winds this time of year at least from my experience.
The past two years we quit for lack of any wind for several hours
and over half the race to go. At any rate, the weather this year
was perfect, almost. We were doing great until 3:00 AM Saturday
when the entire fleet hit a hole and died right on schedule.
This is an annual event. It's pretty funny to wake up at dawn and
see 20-30 boats from all three fleets pointing in every direction
with slack sails. We caught the first hints of breeze and were
"steaming" along at 1.5 - 2 kts with only a J24 (AKA Lake Lice :-) )
keeping pace. Having them close to us at all put them way in front
since we owed them 30 seconds per mile. We left the rest of the
fleet in the hole behind and duked it out eventually gaining some
ground. We rounded the mark at the southern end of the lake and
waved to the rest of the boats on their way down. At the same point
in the lake, the wind again died (possible cue here?) and our J24
friend caught back up. They promptly sailed into hole and we never
looked back! We eventually got so far ahead that we could no longer
discern spinnaker colors. I believe this is called a horizon job?
Even though we had about 6 more hours to go (or so we thought) we
felt confident of our position because we had about 2 hours on the
nearest competitor who we did not owe any time to. At about 11:00
PM on Saturday I asked the question of the skipper, "Is there much
fog on Lake Champlain?" I got a very confident no, never, absolutely
not, light haze, morning mist etc. etc. trust me. Certainly never
any fog like on the ocean and never so that visibility is greatly
impaired. This turned into a small discussion about fog and what
nasty stuff it can be blah, blah,blah. Yawn, yawn I go below for
a snooze confident that it is only a matter of finishing since
clearly all the other boats would certainly quit if they were
becalmed or that far behind. They apparently never heard the fat
lady singing as we did! We were actually part of the chorus and
sang right along with her! Our mood was ecstatic and confidence
was high to the point of already enjoying such an obvious victory.
The weather was clear, the moon rose bright, visibilty was great,
no sweat. We rounded the last point of land on Providence Island
and were heading to the finish about 1/3 to 1/2 mile away in Mallet's
Bay and whammo! We sailed into a wall of fog so thick that visibility
was effectively cut down to less than 50 yards. Hey no problem, we
just sail the recoprical course until we are clear again, take a
bearing, plot the heading to the line and sail onto our well deserved
victory, glory and major club side gloating. Imagine our surprise to
find the fog had covered the whole lake. I was rudely awaken to the
swearing and shouting and flurry of sheets and winches. I stuck my
head up and mentioned something about no fog on the lake, ever, and
got a nonverbal hand cue from the skipper. We eventually heard the
next boat come in after hunting for the line for an hour or so.
By this time our position was so screwed up that guessing which
direction the line was in was pointless if not hazardous. There
are several rocks in the area all of which are visible in clear
weather. The other boat anchored and we rafted up with them. It
was our closest threat to whom we owed no time. So far our lead was
intact but dwindling. More boats came in after awhile and they were
more vigilant. They kept searching in the dark and fog and eventually
found the committee boat. As it got lighter around 6:00 AM Sunday,
we fended off and started searching for the line again. We found it
in about five minutes or so as it was only about 200 yards away! We
came in third for our fleet but it was a truly a bitter defeat after
having dusted the entire fleet and part of the B fleet as well. After
30 hours of racing, the last 12 or so in an ever increasing lead, to
lose a race so close to the line was a big let down. We all took
solace in knowing how far ahead we were and the skipper knows that we
were winners even though the books say differently. I guess the moral
is not to ask about what the weather isn't doing at the moment.
Oh well, there's always next year.
Brian
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845.248 | How the other half lives | NETMAN::CARTER | | Thu Aug 03 1989 19:17 | 32 |
| A few of us Digits have been on the water in the vicinity of where
racing activities have been in progress on Wednesday evenings. This
is our first year attempting this type of thing. The first couple
of weeks we were totally bewildered, didn't know what we didn't
know. One of the things we didn't know was the course. Nobody
told us we needed a YRUMB book. Talk about the gang that couldn't
shoot straight. My boat, elysium, is a C + C 29 II. Rates 183
cruising. That rating puts us near the slow end of C fleet.
The first couple of weeks we didn't see many C flags, even at
the start. Saw lots of D flags, 'til they got too far in front
of us. But we had FUN! Near the end of the first half season,
fate smiled on elysium. A frequent contributor to this note, with
alliterative initials asked us if we had room for another crew member.
During the first half season, we finished somewhere around 7 out
of 10 or 11 starters. Near the end, we actually finished with and
ahead of some of the other boats in our class.
We've been in three of the races in the second half of the B.Y.C.
series so far. A 5th out of 8, a 5th out of 9 and last night a
7th out of 11. And we're still having fun. We don't see the D
boats very often, but the fast C don't know we're there.
Without this notes file I wouldn't have been involved in racing.
More importantly I wouldn't have met some of the great people that
spend long hours working at the top of their fleet, but are still
willing to take the time to ride with and encourage a bunch of novices.
And I found out why the Wednesday night series is called the beer
can series. (even if the skipper still drinks wine.)
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845.249 | Picking lay lines | CIMAMT::CHINNASWAMY | The Mindless Cannibal | Fri Aug 04 1989 09:57 | 16 |
| Last night we had a chance to take second out of about 8 boats. Close
to the end of the last windward leg we made a critical tactical error
half of which involved not being able to sight the lay line properly.
We tacked to cover two other boats, however, as soon as we finished
tacking we hit a dead spot. We could have still made out fine since we
had a comfortable lead on the third and fourth boats. However, we also
overstood the mark considerably. This allowed one of the two boats
behind us to duck under us at the windward mark. Since I am fairly new
to racing, I was wondering what techniqes some of you use to pick
the lay line? I looked around and couldn't find anything else on this
subject. We did manage to take third, but I wanted second badly.
Mano
racing on Paul Keenan's J24 "Shockwave"
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845.250 | | MOOV00::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Fri Aug 04 1989 13:22 | 9 |
| Re. -1
Forget trying to learn this from the skipper of that boat you race
on. He's blind! :)
-Paul
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845.251 | use tacking lines | STEREO::HO | | Fri Aug 04 1989 14:03 | 30 |
| There is a note somewhere on the use of tacking lines which covers
this.
One additional thing to look for if the mark is one of the non
inflatable type is the direction in which it's leaning. If its
leaning to leeward, allow some extra distance before heading for
the mark to compensate for the current which will set you down.
Do the opposite if it's leaning the other way. If you're not close
enough to tell which way it's leaning, it's too early to go for
the layline.
You are most vulnerable to overstanding when there's a boat to leeward
but close behind. Overstanding a little gives him enough room to
sneak in at the mark. To guard against this, tack shy of the layline
and hold that position until close to the mark. Then tack two more
times to the layline. If you don't blow a tack, your opponent will
always be pinned low of the layline and have to duck your stern
to round. Ignore this if there's a real parade at the layline.
In that case just take your lumps and tack to weather of the last
boat in the parade. It's just not profitable to play around with
short tacks in all the exhaust to leeward of the parade.
Incidentally, with the revision in the rules, if you're just shy
of the mark as you try to round, HIT IT. Then DO NOT re-round.
Just sail off to weather of all the other boats and do your 720.
Much less is lost under this scenario than if you had to re-round with
a zillion boats in the layline parade.
- gene
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845.252 | We gonna make it? I dunno... | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Aug 04 1989 14:20 | 23 |
| This brings up a good point. With the exception of very large fleets,
it does not pay to go to the lay line early on in the upwind leg.
Stay to the middle of the course and you can use whatever shifts
come to your advantage. Once on the layline, any shift will hurt
you. For example, if you get lifted, you are then overstanding.
If you get headed (unless by about 30 degrees) you can't afford
to tack very far before you get back to the "new" layline.
As far a judging the layline, experience with how closely your boat
can point in various wind strengths and knowledge of your tacking
angles will help. A "hockey puck" handheld compass will help.
Also, looking at competitors on the opposite tack in front of you.
Are they making it? Be careful, though, because we will fall off
just as a competitor comes off our stern making it look to them
like we will not make the mark. Hopefully this will encourage them
to overstand.
Gene's note on tacking lines is good too. Just remember you DO
NOT want to overstand.
Dave
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845.253 | note :-) | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Fri Aug 04 1989 14:30 | 22 |
| re .251:
Hit the mark???? If it is one of those nice, solid metal government
issue marks, your local boat painter will love you and your insurance
agent won't.
:-)
Oh, it one of those inflatable things? Do hit it, especially if it's
right outside Marblehead Harbor. Maybe you'll get lucky and sink it!
:-)
Why oh why do race committees insist on having race courses across
harbor entrances in the early morning and late afternoon? Or does it
just seem this way as I play dodge 'em boats?
:-)
Once_this_year_racer
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845.254 | The Berringer Overnight Race | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Sun Aug 06 1989 19:22 | 139 |
| Friday night was the Berringer Overnight race, sponsored by the Boston
Yacht Club. And although we didn't win, it was a memorable event for
the WAGS crew, and a remarkable race altogether.
The weather was one of the reasons. The wind held steady at 10-20 kts
S-SW for the entire race, and the seas were relatively flat (although
the waves did finally start to build during the final hours). This was
without a doubt the best weather and steadiest wind for an overnight
that I've ever experienced.
The course was another. The RC set a course that looked somewhat like
a skewed bow tie. The start was at Tinker's gong. First windward mark
was the monster bouy outside Boston Harbor. Then downwind to Eastern
Point, back upwind to Graves Light, downwind to Newcomb's Ledge, and
upwind to Marblehead Bell ... twice around. The total course length
was just a few yards shy of 95 miles.
We ended up in A fleet for this race, which had us really excited. We
had won the only other race in which we competed in A class (Chapman
Bowl), and our confidence level was high. And this time we had a chance
to test ourselves against BODACIOUS and CLADDAGH, neither of whom we have
ever beaten.
The first leg saw us getting off to a pretty bad start, but we managed
to catch up and take an early lead. It was a really good feeling to
look back and see those flags on CLADDAGH's bow. But it was real early
and we didn't stay in front of them for very long. We managed to carry
on a pleasant conversation with the BODACIOUS crew for a good part of
the leg, but eventually they asserted themselves and got ahead of us.
We also had to contend with our "friends" on KATABATIC. Although we've
had some great races and close finishes this year (due to our identical
ratings) they really disappointed me with their lack of sportsmanship
in this race.
At the first mark we were rounding just in front of them when we had a
little trouble getting the chute up. Those guys were laughing at us as
they popped their chute and roared on by. Well, it isn't smart to
laugh at your competition so early in a race (as we eventually proved
to them). We finally got our chute up and managed to catch up with them
by the time we got to Eastern Point. We were literally side-by-side
coming to the mark, with us being on the inside. Then some jerk on
their boat called out "no overlap" to which we replied with a variety
of remarks common to sailors and Boston drivers, and proceeded to
ignore them while we set our jib and took down the chute, rounding the
mark with them about 10 feet off our stern.
The beat to Graves light turned out to be somewhat dangerous due to a
very stupid practice among sailboat racers. On around the area of
Newcombs those bozos decided to shut off their lights and play games
with us. MORONS!! Here we are tacking across each other at close
quarters and and we can hear their wake before we can see them !
At one point they crossed so close to our stern we could talk to them
in a nice conversational tone. I won't go into what the conversation
consisted of. Then they decided to go inside of Newcombs, close to the
foul water zone. Enough was enough, we weren't going to let them cut
through the cans surrounding Baker's withough giving them some
indication we knew they were there, so we broke out the Q-beam and
flashed it over in their directions, with come instructions on how to
use running lights. A minute later they tacked out and honored the can,
forcing them to lose a lot of ground to us. That was the last we saw of
them for the race.
Upon rounding Marblehead Bell we made a decision that apparently cost
us the race. We decided that even though Tinker's gong wasn't listed in
the rack as a turning mark, we were supposed to honor it because it was
the starting line. I mean, how can you do a twice around course without
rounding the starting mark? Makes sense. But apparently we didn't have
to do that, and the eventual winner told us they didn't. Ah well, them's
the breaks. Fortunately it was only a little out of the way. :^(
By dawn we were approaching Eastern Point for the second time. As the
haze cleared we could make out chutes not too far in front of us. To
our amazement, they belonged to CLADDAGH, ARBELLA and BODACIOUS; the
fleet leaders. Then we looked behind us and realized that SPLIT GENES,
a Beneteau 40 and the only boat in the fleet we owed time to, was just
a couple of minutes behind us. Also, there were DARK HORSE and VAPOR
TRAIL, the leaders in B fleet (who had sailed a different course than
we had), mixing it up with the rest of us. Imagine that, 12 hours of
sailing and here we were, one big happy family. Well, some of us were
happier than others I suppose. Some quick calculations revealed that
on corrected time this was a very close race between CLADDAGH, SPLIT
GENES, and WAGS.
From that point on the sleepiness disappeared and we tried to be sharp.
We knew we had a real shot at a win if we just kept sailing well and
didn't do anything stupid. We passed BODACIOUS just prior to rounding
the mark at Graves, and started making some time on ARBELLA. But we
just couldn't seem to make any time on SPLIT GENES, especially
downwind. CLADDAGH made some time on us on run to Newcombs, but we
managed to make some of it up on the final upwind leg. Dean, please
thank Jon for not messing with us on this leg. I know you guys coulda
put us out of this thing if you wanted to. Incidentally, what did he
mean when he said "bad call" that one time you guys came up to see us?
Had me real worried, you did. Got us all woke up in a hurry though.
As we crossed the finish line we knew we had CLADDAGH beat. And my
calculations showed we probably had SPLIT GENES too, but it was really
too close to call. Shoulda known better than trust my math after racing
all night. Turns out they had us by almost 30 seconds, and we had
CLADDAGH by about two minutes, corrected. Imagine racing for 17 hours
and having the first three finishers that close.
Needless to say we had the inevitable conversation afterwards about
what if we'd done this or that differently, or not muffed that first
spinnaker set, etc. But overall we were very pleased, and spent some
time in pleasant conversation with the skipper and crew of SPLIT GENES
at the awards presentation. Now that's what it's all about, spinning
tales and swapping toasts.
I really wanted to greet the crew of KATABATIC at the finish line with
water balloons, and the chant "no overlap, no lights, no class". But
the skipper didn't feel it would be appropriate. We got the last laugh
in any event, beating them across the line by about 15 minutes.
I really wish the USYRU would consider making running lights mandatory
for overnight races (as in, you turn them off, you get protested outta
the race). That was really a stupid, unnecessary, and very dangerous
thing they did, and I didn't appreciate being put in that kind of a
situation. I mean, after several hours of racing you just can't trust
your (or their) reflexes to be fast enough to react if a collision
course exists and you don't see it till you're a boatlength from each
other. We mentioned the incident to the race committee back at the BYC,
but the guy just shook his head and said every year he hears more stories
of stupidity on the high seas.
But I think we'll remember this one for a long time to come, 'cause we
beat one of the best in CLADDAGH. And we really wanted a chance to
compete with them this year and were a little disappointed when the
ratings split put us in B fleet.
So far it's turning out to be a very memorable season for the WAGS gang.
Next race for us is the NOOD, and we'll be going into it on a high
note.
... Bob
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845.255 | Shoulda protested | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 07 1989 09:51 | 13 |
| Bob, it is a protestable offense to not use your running lights.
In fact they have to be of a certain wattage. Blue Yankee was
protested and warned in the SORC for having lights of too low (3
watts) wattage. Anyone who passes us close aboard without lights
will get our Q beam focused on them for as long as it takes to get
them to turn on their lights. Incidently it is also illegal (as
in laws, not racing rules) to not have your lights on.
It is actions like this that give people the impression that all
racers are boneheads. Glad you had fun.
Dave
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845.256 | | HKFINN::FACHON | | Tue Aug 08 1989 11:55 | 25 |
| Good job WAGS. We didn't expect to see you guys in the
AM, but some serious wee-hour F-ups cost us mega-minutes.
The last weather leg was also a bust. Did you see the wind line
that we happened to be on the wrong side of? We were
passing Claddagh and climbing on her and the next thing
shes pulling out like a rocket. We tried to tack out -- very
messy -- but ended up getting pinned to the right by that
tug and barge that came through. Anyway, it was too late,
and we just weren't sharp. On the other hand, WAGS is transformed!
About that "bad call" from Jon, he just thought you were
early on the "mast-a-beam." But you can infer his
state of mind from the fact that we sat in your shadow
for so long. I told him to cork it. We were happy to see
you doing so well.
Have fun at the NOODs. I plan to do some sight-seeing
that way in a few more weeks: "Endeavour" and "Shamrock"
are squaring off for some match racing on the 24th through
the 27th. Should be AMAZING!!!
Later,
Dean
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845.257 | No, not J35, Jaaaaay Boats! | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Aug 08 1989 14:22 | 24 |
| Dean, I was down in Newport this last weekend (while you guys were
recovering from racing in the dark, tsk, tsk). Went out to look
at Shamrock with Tim Woodhouse. He's building the sails for both
Endeavor and Shamrock. What they've done to Shamrock is amazing.
Took off the huge ugly doghouse and put one on to original specs.
Also took off the bulwarks to lower the sheer to design. Put 30
some feet (30 feet!) back on the mast.
Endeavor is on its way from England right now. The word is that
Shamrock hasn't a chance, but the Shamrock crew is taking it very
seriously. As of right now they don't have a starting or race
committee. The New York Yacht Club is refusing due to the
commercialism surrounding the event. Ida Lewis will probably do
it. The Coast Guard is balking at being responsible for the spectator
fleet. These J boats respond to a turn of the wheel in 7 to 9 seconds.
That's a really long time. If a J boat hits a spectator boat the
event will be marred permanently.
The main problem though is that the PHRF New Englands are the same
weekend! Does Jon know you're not going to be there or is he
encouraging it? :^)
Dave
|
845.258 | Nicer weekend than expected | ANYWAY::WALKER | Derek Walker | Mon Aug 21 1989 11:58 | 44 |
| This weekend was the Chandler Hovey Regatta, hosted by the
Eastern Yacht Club. Based on the weather reports, everyone was
prepared to get wet, but we were pleasently surprized to find
excellent (and dry) conditions on both days. Wind was mostly
a steady 10+ kts.
The course both days was a gold cup, with a 3 mi. windward triangle,
using portable marks, followed by reciprocal windward-leward legs.
The RC did a great job on this one. Saturday, they moved the
start to a portable about 1 mi. from Tinker's (which, by the way,
has a new marker, a taller structure gong marked "TR"), and got
the race off within a half hour.
VIGILANTE had an excellent weekend. Class 'C' had 11 entries.
Some of the Boston boats came to tune-up for the New Englands
next weekend, and provided some of the best competition we've
had all season. We basically match raced with one of them,
SAILSMAN (S2 9.2). Both days we both broke ahead of the fleet
and battled it out to the finish.
On Saturday, SAILSMAN led at each mark rounding, keeping a tight
cover on us all day. On the final run, they sailed too low, and
we were able to sneak by for a 1.5 minute (1.25 corrected) margin
for the win.
Yesterday, we again met up with SAILSMAN at the front, but we were
passed on the first reach leg by Dave Vietor aboard FAST LANE.
We raised our staysail and drove over him on the second reach. We
got close to SAILSMAN again on the final leg, but never passed them,
crossing 15 seconds later (30 seconds corrected).
The total corrected time difference between VIGILANTE and SAILSMAN
for the 2 days was 45 seconds!
There was a promotion for the Whitbread Around-the-world race, to
mark the first time the Whitbread will include a stop-over in the
US. Each day, a skipper and 2 crew were chosen by raffle. The
winners will be flown to Ft. Lauderdale, FL to participate in an
around-the-buoys race aboard one of the Whitbread boats.
Next week: The New Englands - we're ready!
- Derek
|
845.259 | Racing in the NOOD ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Tue Aug 22 1989 09:17 | 135 |
| Well, the NOOD wasn't quite up to last year's standard. But it was
still a fine event and we accomplished all our goals for the event.
The regatta was supposed to involve five races. But Mother Nature and a
rather imcompetent race committee created a situation where it was four
races for three fleets and three races for the rest of us.
The first day of the regatta was a bust. The race committee took us
out to Bretton Reef tower, bobbed for a couple of hours, took us out
another 3 or 4 miles, bobbed for a couple more hours, then fired the
triple guns and called it a day. Now, I was of the opinion that they
could have had one race, because the wind never really died (2-5 kts).
Sure it would have been boring as hell, but people came a long way to
race. At least we could have all bobbed in the same direction and made
like we were racing.
The second day was a lot more promising. Winds were from the east and
looking to hold steady. But the race committee fouled up again. This
time they took us inside the east passage, right into the torpedo
testing range. Unfortunately, the Navy was testing and told us to get
outta there. So the RC just sits there for an hour trying to figure
out what to do. Then they took us up the bay about 2-3 miles and just
sat there for another hour trying to figure out what to do. By then
the racers were getting a little surly (as evidenced if you were
monitoring the radio). A half-hour later they finally had a course set
up and we finally got to race.
The course for the first race was a 'W' (windward-leeward-windward).
There were only five J/36s in the fleet this season, and we had all
been there the previous season. So we knew the boat to beat was STORE
BOUGHT WOMAN, who has a modified rig and is pretty hot around the New
York, LI area (or so I'm told anyway). They got a very good start on
us and proved to have superior speed on everybody as they simply roared
into the lead and kept building on it for the first two legs.
We watched them approach the leeward mark well into the J/35 and Tripp 37
fleets, which had started in front of us ... and then they all stopped.
The wind was dying fast, and the leeward mark was in the middle of a
huge hole. All the fleets were coming down to the mark, stopping, and
getting swept down toward the bridge by the current.
We were the 2nd J/36 to round the mark, and then we watched helplessly
as we were passed by the committee boat, which was anchored. Suddenly
John, our tactician, heads up to the front of the boat muttering "I've
always wanted to do this", and quietly slips the anchor overboard.
Sure enough we start passing everybody. Within minutes several other
boats had thought of the same tactic.
After about 1/2 hour the wind suddenly filled in. Unfortunately, it
had shifted about 40 degrees, and it was a screaming reach to the
finish line. By this time, all the boats from all the fleets had
bunched up, and all 11 fleets were roaring to the finish. Our fleet
finished in roughly the reverse order of how we had rounded the leeward
mark, with the exception of STORE BOUGHT WOMAN, who had the smarts to
go very high, and then drop down and pop their chute to the finish.
As fate would have it, the race didn't count for 8 fleets anyway
because we didn't finish the race within the allotted time limit.
The second race was a tacking duel between us, STORE BOUGHT WOMAN, and
HIGH ZOOT, with the other two boats trailing by a couple of minutes.
We ended up losing out to both boats at the line by just a few seconds.
Didn't feel so good about our performance, because we have been sailing
better this season than we sailed for that second race. But talked it
over and decided to try some rig adjustments to see if we could get a
little more speed, and to move some crew around to different positions.
The third day we finally got what we came for. Good racing from our
competition and good boat handling out of ourselves. The first race of
the day was an olympic course. To everybody's delight the RC started
us on time. We had a good start, but STORE BOUGHT WOMAN had a better
one, and within minutes had established herself right where we didn't
want her, between us and the pin. We had nothing to do but try to
outspeed her and get to where we could safely tack. And we did, within
about 2 minutes. We tacked across her bow for the first time in the
last two NOODs (oh whatta feeling). From there we decided to just go
fast and ignore what our competition was doing, so we sailed our course
and played the wind shifts. When we next saw SBW and ZOOT, they were a
minute and more behind us at the windward mark. We continued to build
on our lead during the reaching legs. On the second windward leg, SBW
suddenly lost her main and dropped out of the race. From there it was
an easy win for WAGS.
There was about a 2-1/2 hour delay between races while the RC changed
the course for a 10-degree wind shift, then had to change it back when
the wind shifted back around. Those bozos couldn't even recognize an
oscillating pattern when everybody else out there knew what was
happening. Ridiculous !! Then, they finally got going, started the
43-footers, the 1-tonners, and STOPPED THE SEQUENCE. When they finally
got things going again, it turned out the first two fleets were bearing
down on their windward mark, which was right in the way of the starting
boats. Dangerous !!
The second race was another 'W' course. And it turned out to be a
"winner take all" situation between us and ZOOT. Whoever beat the
other would win overall for the fleet. It turned out to be a
three-way race between us, ZOOT, and BREAKAWAY. This one was not
decided for any of the three of us till the last 100 feet or so of the
course. At one point we were beam-to-beam with ZOOT, and about 1
boatlength to weather, when a 1-tonner came down under chute and split
the water between us. Talk about close, his pole just cleared our rig,
and his chute just cleared ZOOT's headstay. Then suddenly BREAKAWAY
appears, JUST off the stern of the 1-tonner, barely crossing ZOOT's bow
and our stern by inches. Talk about close quarters! At the finish we
managed to edge both boats out for the win, but there was less only
about a boatlength between each of the three as we crossed the line.
With our two wins we managed to take the overall fleet honors. But
with only three races, a small fleet, and our best competition dropping
out, I wonder if it really means that much.
The RC really blew it for this one. They had a LOT of unnecessary
delays, goof-ups, and plain bad judgement. There were several boat
owners demanding their money back. The Frers 33's, Soverel 33's, and
J/35's were holding class championships there, and had plenty to say to
the regatta organizers about getting a different RC for next season.
An interesting side note ... our two closest competitors so far this
season (IO and KATABATIC) also did extremely well down there, with IO
taking 1st in the J/33 class and KATABATIC taking 2nd overall in the
Soverel 33 class. We were all comparing stories under the tent
Saturday night and decided it was because we have basically been match
racing all year. It's quite an advantage.
Dave, you guys might want to consider the NOOD next year. There's a
very competitive fleet of 1-tonners down there, and it grew from last
season. And despite the RC foul-ups (which I HOPE they rectify for
next season) it is a well-run event with lots of good apre sail
activity and plenty of nice prizes and souvenirs. And we were
pleasantly surprised to find ourselves on the cover of the program,
just in front of HIGH ZOOT like we like it.
Well, the PHRF New Englands are next week-end. Guess we're about as
ready as we'll ever be.
... Bob
|
845.260 | ex | STEREO::HO | | Tue Aug 22 1989 09:58 | 4 |
| Bob, what did you do to your rig to get speed on Store Bought Woman?
- gene
|
845.261 | | 27884::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Tue Aug 22 1989 11:24 | 16 |
| RE .260
Gene,
We tightened the upper shrouds and loosened the headstay tension to
rake the mast back more.
STORE BOUGHT WOMAN has a customized rig. They have removed the jumper
stays and installed real backstays (J/36 comes with jack stays which
are fairly useless except in seriously heavy conditions). In PHRF
competition, SBW pays a 3-second per mile penalty for the rig. They
claim it's worth it.
... Bob
|
845.262 | | MOOV00::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Tue Aug 22 1989 12:46 | 11 |
| Bob,
The J/24's sail best with maximum aft rake. This is acheived with a
max length headstay and a min length mast.
It was a funny scene this past spring. I was sawing away at the base
of the mast while my brother and co-owner kept repeating "Are you sure
you know what you're doing".
-Paul
|
845.263 | | DICKNS::FACHON | | Wed Aug 23 1989 13:12 | 6 |
| So as not to appear biased, I'll give a looser's
account of the Chandler Hovey. Great racing!
Dumb moves!
;)
|
845.264 | The PHRF New Englands ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Mon Aug 28 1989 10:29 | 54 |
| This past week-end was the PHRF New Englands, hosted by the Eastern YC.
I thought the event was pretty well-run, and the weather made for some
interesting racing.
The RC broke the fleet down into "divisions" this season, rather than
using the traditional PHRF classes. This eliminated the crowded fleets
like we had last year, and made clean starts a lot more achievable. I
liked the courses that were set too. Eastern has been doing a pretty
good job this season in that respect.
The first race was a 5-leg windward-leeward type course, with a very
short reaching leg (1/4 mi.) at the windward mark. The other two races
were olympic courses, although Sunday's race was shortened for our
division.
We were in Division 3, which was for PHRF 72-84. There were 20 boats
in the division, and definitely the toughest fleet we'd seen since the
JFK regatta. All our favorite rivals were there, and we were psyched.
But it wasn't to be a great week-end for the WAGS bunch, the long arm
of the law of averages caught up with us. Or maybe that should be,
Murphy's Law. We spent the week-end either sittin' on the wrong side
of the wind shifts, or getting pinned by boneheads who didn't
understand overstand, and mostly just basing our tactics on who was
gassing us at the time and where do we have to go for some clean air.
Anyway, we ended up in a dismal 12th place overall, our worst showing
of the season.
In any event it was't a total bust, there were some memorable moments.
In the first race we had another close one going with HIGH ZOOT and
KRAPAMATIC (er, I mean KATABATIC). We were steaming downwind toward
the finish line nose-to-nose-to-nose. ZOOT beat us by 1 second, and
we beat KATABATIC by 1 second. It was kind of irrelevent that we
finished 10, 11, & 12 in the fleet, it was just exciting to have boats
that close to compete against.
And in the second race we managed to edge out CLADDAGH, and they helped
us by giving us a nice stern wake to surf on the entire last downwind
leg. They couldn't shake us downwind, and in heavy air that's very
unusual. It was an exciting leg, as the wind has piped up and boats
were rounding up all around us. With all that surf it was like white
water rafting.
And we DEFINITELY came out on top in the water balloon fight (even
though the RC was telling us to "cease and desist") ... hey at least we
had the decency to leave the funnelator below ... :^) ... :^)
In all it was a very enjoyable week-end of racing and a well-run regatta.
We need more races with large fleets like that, it definitely requires
a different set of tactics from what works in the smaller fleets we've
grown accustomed to competing in.
... Bob
|
845.265 | | HKFINN::FACHON | | Mon Aug 28 1989 13:15 | 16 |
| I'll second Bob. The EYC's RC did a VERY good job with
this regatta. The fleets were nicely divided, they set
good courses, and they were very good about changing the
courses when the wind shifted.
I'd like to see local Mrblhd RC's opt for multiple races
in a day. Two 10 mile races is more fun than one 20 miler,
any day!
Bodacious and crew performed better than in the past
several weeks -- a full crew helped a lot. Looking
forward to a fun September series and to some serious
partying at the Jubilee YC!
;)
|
845.266 | PHRF NE's R OK! | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 28 1989 13:49 | 25 |
| Agree with the above comments. The RC did a great job. Rumor has it
the Eastern is looking to make it an annual deal, so they went all out.
I also second the Idea of two short races rather one long one.
The name of the game was shifts. You lived or died by them. On
Saturday we couldn't buy one our way and did crummy. Boat speed was
getting respectable. It really helped having two other One Tonners
(Full Tilt and Legende) to do speed work with. Sunday was a different
story. Once the sea breeze came in we built a plan based on the wind
following the sun to the south and stuck to it. It paid off in spades.
We were first around the first three marks. Scherherazade caught us
with a flyer on the fourth leg (second upwind) so we were second with
two more legs to go. The RC eliminated those legs for the other
classes, but we had to do them. No changes on the downwind leg, but on
the last leg Overtaker and Legende went on a flyer to the right that
really paid out. That's the bitch about covering a large fleet. You
can't cover all contingencies. So we were really let down after
leading most of the way to end up fourth out of fifteen. We are
FINALLY getting the beast to go. It has been a very humbling
experience so far this year.
Fall series is here and with that means wind and cheap drinks at JYC!
Dave
|
845.267 | Ditto.... | MEIS::WALKER | Derek Walker | Mon Aug 28 1989 16:16 | 17 |
| One more pat on the back for the RC. This year's NE's had look
and feel of a big time event. Having it in the same place each
year should help build it to be bigger and better each year.
I wish I had a camera a couple of times when there must've been
well over 100 spinakers between the 2 lines.
Unfortunately, we saw the consistency we've had all year go down
the tubes. The big fleet (24 boats) was a big change, especially
since the out-of-towners were the best of their fleets. Several
boats from the Portland, ME area were at the top of the fleet.
We were in the middle third for all three races.
Looking forward to the fall series.
- Derek
|
845.268 | | MOOV00::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Mon Aug 28 1989 18:00 | 9 |
| Re .264
The latest issue of SAIL magazine has a good article by Ed Baird
about how to go where you want upwind and handle the traffic.
It's worth reading.
-Paul
|
845.269 | BYC Fall Regatta ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | playing to the tide | Tue Sep 05 1989 10:29 | 73 |
| This week-end was the Boston YC Fall Regatta. Although it was a very
nice week-end for sailing, turnout was very light for a Marblehead
regatta. Perhaps folks are burned out after last week-end, or maybe
they just remember how screwed up this regatta was last year. Whatever
the reason, there were just 5 or 6 entries in each of the four fleets
(five in B fleet).
Saturday's race was an olympic course with portable marks. Although
winds were moderate most of the day, occasionally we were overpowered
on the first leg. And in the process of shortening sail, DARK HORSE
managed to pass us, and kept themselves between us and the pin for the
rest of the first leg. We managed to pass her briefly downwind, but
she got inside us at the gybe mark and stayed there for the rest of the
race. We finished the race about 10 seconds behind her for a 2nd place
finish. CAMPBELL'S SLOOP made an incredible comeback on the last
upwind leg (making up almost 3 minutes!) to finish 3rd.
Sunday's race was a short upwind leg from Tinker's gong to Marblehead
Bell, then downwind to the Monster Bouy, the back upwind to Tinker's.
Actually, that's what it was SUPPOSED to be. It turned into something
that almost resembled a beat-around, as the wind died and shifted a
couple of times.
We got off to a good start on Sunday, and then followed the A boats who
had gone to the inside of the course. DARK HORSE and SPLIT GENES
stayed out, and managed to put some distance on the rest of us.
CAMPBELL'S SLOOP went way inside and got to the first mark well behind
the rest of us. Then he turned around and went right back into shore!!
Dave Campbell loves to take flyers, and this one was a whopper. We
kinda waved good-bye in his direction and turned our attention to the
rest of the fleet.
The run to the monster bouy turned into a reach, then a beat, as the
wind shifted around. We had followed BODACIOUS left when we rounded
the first mark, and the wind shifts were favorable to our side of the
course. As a result, we found ourselves ahead of most of A fleet as we
approached the monster bouy, and well ahead of the rest of our own
fleet. And then the wind died ...
Our golden glow turned a little brown as we watched Campbell steaming
in toward the mark from shore ... he never lost the wind. Then it
turned into a blue funk as we watched the wind fill in for DARK HORSE
and WILDSIDE, and saw our big lead dwindle to nothing. We ended up
being the 3rd B boat around the mark, and Campbell had about a mile and
a half lead on us (in fact, he had a substantial lead on all the A
boats too).
There was nothing we could do about Campbell, he had too much of a lead
and the wind was piping up to 12-15 so we weren't going to catch him.
But we had a hell of a race with DARK HORSE, passing her to leeward
just after rounding the mark and making our time back on her as we
headed for the finish. The finish was so close I don't know if we beat
here or not (none of the crew went back over to M'Head after we put the
boat away). We finished 93 seconds in front of her. I measured the
course at 15.4 miles. If that's correct, we beat here by 0.6 second.
If it was a 15.5 mile course, we tied. If it was longer than 15.5 she
beat us. Talk about close finishes !!
Campbell was the first finisher overall, about 3-4 minutes in front of
the first A boat and about 12 minutes in front of us. VAPOR TRAIL was
the big loser in the "Where's the Wind" sweepstakes. She sat for many
minutes after the rest of us started moving before the wind got out to
where she was (farthest offshore), and finished with C fleet.
Next week is the Jubilee YC Fall Regatta, and the last of the Salem Bay
races. It's been exciting in B fleet, with 5 boats up there competing
for the fleet honors. At this point it looks like DARK HORSE has the
edge, with us second. But a strong showing by any of the five boats
could put them in the top slot. So it should be an exciting week-end.
... Bob
|
845.270 | Drifting is what I live for | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Sep 05 1989 13:58 | 40 |
| This weekend was a mixed bag. We literally couldn't get enough good
crew to do the Saturday race. First time that's happened in three
years! We did go out for a social sail and had a great time.
Sunday was yet another BYC winner of a course. Knowing the wind would
be flukey they sent us to the Monster bouy outside Boston harbor. What
a move! Anyway, the main fun we had was on the first windward leg.
The course was set up so that the marks were to be rounded to starboard
instead of the usual port roundings. However, it was not terribly
obvious that this was the case and could have been easily missed. In
approaching the first mark Bodacious was right there with us. We had
decided to do a jibe set to get back to shore as quickly as possible
which meant that our spinnaker pole was rigged as it would be for port
roundings. Well, Bo saw this and tried very sneakily to determine our
intentions. They weren't at all sure we knew to round to starboard.
We figured this out and had quite a bit of fun bantering with them and
playing with their minds. Finally Jon , the skipper of Bo, just came
out and asked us which way we were planning on rounding.
Our bow man is in love. You may ask what the heck this has to do with
this note. Well, it seems he can no longer keep his mind on the
business end of the boat. In one race he: put up a chute with no sheet
attached, lost one of our two forward halyards up the mast forcing us
to do bareheaded changes, and put the genny up inside the spin pole
topping lift. By the end of the race I was ready to permanently insert
a winch handle into his forehead.
Oh back to the race. Well we rounded the Monster bouy first thanks to
the land breeze we bet heavily would fill in. Lose Goose went way into
shore and it was obvious they would beat us across the line. From that
point on our goal was to sit on and make life miserable for Claddaugh.
It worked, and Mike, Loose Goose's skipper bought us all a round of
Planter's Punches for the effort. Nic e to make friends, but I'd
rather have beat him!
Hopefully the fall series with all its breeze will really set in next
weekend.
Dave
|
845.271 | | CHRCHL::GERMAIN | Down to the Sea in Ships | Tue Sep 05 1989 15:10 | 9 |
| Question:
Any of you know a guy who races for Eastern YC, in Marblehead,
named Robert Shapiro?doyou know what boat/class he sails in?
Thanks,
Gregg
|
845.272 | not the pinnacle of excitement, but ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Crazy in the sunlight, yes indeed! | Sun Sep 10 1989 20:58 | 35 |
| Well, Mother Nature blessed us with a beautiful week-end, weather wise.
But she forgot to throw in a little wind for us sailors, and for the
second week-end in a row we drifted.
This week-end was the Jubilee YC Fall Regatta. It turned out to be
only one race, as the Sunday race was cancelled due to light wind.
Saturday's course was from Curtis Point to Marblehead Bell, to
Newcomb's, to Gales Ledge, and back to Curtis Point. Basically I'd
have to say that light breezes and wind shifts turned it into a matter
of being in the right place at the right time, and WAGS was. These
kind of races really take it outta you as first you catch a zephyr and
really clock on your competition, then you sit helplessly in doldrums
watching them do it to you. But we finished ... well in front of the
rest of B fleet. :^)
Sunday we went out to Tinker's and drifted for a while. About the only
remarkable event was when TOOT SWEET came after us with water balloons.
I had one of those 3-foot long balloons on board, which we filled with
about 3-4 gallons of water. It was about the size of a watermelon.
When they came after us we let them in real close, then launched the
monster from a towel. Direct hit!! And then they retreated hollering
something about escalation. Guess it's a good thing the season's
winding down soon.
Hope we get some wind soon, this light wind stuff is kinda boring ...
... at least partying with the BODACIOUS crew was fun. And we did get
to do a little sailing on Sunday.
... Gene, did you guys actually race ???
... Bob
|
845.273 | This is getting old | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Sep 11 1989 10:24 | 28 |
| I give up. This is the fall series folks. You know, lots of wind,
brisk temperatures and spray in the face. Hah! Yet another weekend
better spent mowing the yard, sitting by a pool, or playing Nintendo.
Saturday we had only one regular crew with us and a bunch of
substitutes and neophytes. No problem. Except that sailing in these
light winds requires a much better crew than brisk wind. We had the
slows so bad that if we went any slower we'd be going backwards. By
the time we rounded the last mark on Saturday our main was slatting
itself to death and one of our crew was looking pretty bad. We dropped
out and DNF'd for the first time in two years. We would have been DFL
anyway!
Sunday we had our normal crew back. It did not look good from the
beginning, so we didn't even bother to rig the boat. We set a goal
that if the race did not start by noon we were history. Noon came, we
went by the comittee to inform them we were retiring before the start
and all they said was that we were showing superior intelligence. On
our way back to the harbor we heard the abandonment signal. No race.
What really made the conditions awful were the swells coming inshore
from hurricane Gabrielle. Jubilee got stuck with perhaps the worst
weekend for racing this year. Too bad. They run a great race
normally.
Please, wind gods, give us some goddam wind!
Dave
|
845.274 | | STEREO::HO | | Mon Sep 11 1989 11:20 | 47 |
| Gee guys. All you's had to do was to wait another two hours and the
sea breeze would have started. When we saw Wildside and Wags coming
back in we figured it must have been bad news out there. It's tough
getting a dozen people together just to have a barfing party.
The CYC committee was determined to get a race off. They sent mark
boats all over looking for wind. Just before 2:00 we saw one of
them come back without its portable mark. He found what he was
looking for an had dropped a mark a mile "upwind". The warning
gun went off and in a few minutes the breeze arrived. Not much,
but enough to put a few ripples on those huge rollers. Touche was
well in back on the line at that time so we had to struggle a bit
to get to the start. As luck would have it port was favored and
we were there with a full head of steam from having started so far
back. Perfect start, crossed right at the gun and promptly rolled
two boats. Traded the lead with two other boats until we tacked
right to get what appeared to be a better angle on the mark. That
just got us to the hole at the mark faster. The fleet drifted past
the mark in a bunch.
The committee had indicated Starboard roundings, the first time
this season. I guess that screwed up everyone's geometry because
many of the boats couldn't find the rhumbline for the second leg.
We pointed Touche in the right direction and set the chute, moving
out from the pack with two other boats in third place. Held that
to the take down mark where they mercifully ended the race.
Dave, you're dead right about good crew being more necessary for
these light conditions. We never had our sails working for more
than 40% of the time going downwind. As we headed up a roller the
apparent wind shifted back and the chute would fill. Going down
the other side, we'd sail into the chute and plaster it on the mast.
Aggresively working the chute and playing the main by directly holding
the boom made all the difference.
Despite the unperfect conditions a couple of good things happened.
Found the missing 1/2 knot. I moved the forestay back 1.5 inches
and blocked the mast 1/2 inch farther back. Voila!! Perfect balance
and sail shape. And we've finally acclimated to rolling seas (to
a degree). No one barfed on this trip. But these were offset
by the collective 4 hours spent at the masthead fixing a stuborn
halyard lock. Finally fixed the problem by breaking the offending
piece off and throwing it overboard. The manufacturer can expect
some hate mail from me shortly.
- gene
|
845.275 | WAGadacious | HKFINN::FACHON | | Mon Sep 11 1989 16:12 | 21 |
| The racing was lousy, but the Jubilee hospitality
was OUTSTANDING -- as usual. Thank you for the feast
and good company!
Saturday's race really hurt. I'm still smarting from
being blamed for not forcasting the 40 degree shift
on the first weather leg. From then on it was down hill.
Although there were some openings, I think most of us
would be hard pressed to say we KNEW where they'd be.
Although no race on Sunday, WAGS and Bodacious squared
off for the first annual "WAGadacious" match race (WAGadacious
is the hy-brid name for the Santa Cruz 70 we're dreaming about
getting). Anyway, we set a short course and set off to weather.
Although handily winning the start, Bodacious never got on stride,
and WAGS broke from under our cover to take the lead. We called
it quits, WAGS the clear winner, as the breeze failed. But wait
'till next year! ;)
And THERE WILL be TV coverage.
|
845.276 | Manchester Fall Series | HKFINN::FACHON | | Mon Sep 25 1989 11:58 | 12 |
| This weekend provided the best wind we've had
all summer. Saturday was particularly fun --
surfing conditions for the first time in "I don't
know how long!" YYEEEHHAAAHHH!!!
One more race -- Jubillee. Rendezvous at the
club afterwards. Drinks on Bob.
;)
|
845.277 | good wind finally too ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Crazy in the sunlight, yes indeed! | Mon Sep 25 1989 12:31 | 20 |
| Yup, this was one fun week-end. Guested on BODACIOUS for this regatta.
It's really nice to get out on a different boat from time to time. And
the broaches were exciting. Haven't helped lay a boat on its side like
that since the JFK regatta. :^)
As usual, the Manchester YC had to be as cryptic as possible when
posting the course, which made for some interesting discussion about
what the course was supposed to be. Saturday they did a very poor job
of setting a starting line, using one of those little MYC racing marks
that looks like an overgrown lobster pot. The result was a lot of
confusion and a general recall for the first start. Wish those guys
wouldn't try so hard to obfiscate what should be a routine.
Next week it all ends with the JYC Last Race. Drinks on ME ?!?!?
Sure, why not ... at Jubilee prices even I can afford them. Maybe I'll
even open up the WAGS bar and grille for one last apre sail event.
... Bob
|
845.278 | Another botch | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Sep 25 1989 13:07 | 14 |
| Finally got wind and we blow it! Couldn't do Saturday's race due to a
lack of crew but did Sunday's. Right at the first leeward mark our
navigator was gathering the chute and rapacking it when he fell and
apparently broke some ribs. Great. Then our halyard jammed on the
next leeward run and the chute wouldn't come down and we sailed past
the mark by a quarter mile. The hurt guy said the pain was getting to
him so we went home. It stunk.
We weren't inthe hunt anyway. Our key guys continue to desert us and
we are learning we cannot sail this boat with pickup crew, no matter
how talented. It's just too quirky and you have to know it.
Dave
|
845.279 | | STEREO::HO | | Mon Sep 25 1989 14:39 | 31 |
| Flat seas and fresh winds. Perfect Etchells sailing conditions.
Just like racing in the Great Bay in Bermuda except for the 30 degree
temperature difference. I had more wool on yesterday than any day
since the end of ski season.
1.8 mile windward leeward twice around. The sigh of relief at not
haveing an O course was audible. No power reaches (or power brouches).
Good start and a decent first leg got us to the weather mark in
good shape. But a less than aggresive chute set pushed us back.
Never really came back from that but still managed to put a few
boats between us and the cellar. With all the wind noise it was
difficult to hear hails and as result we almost got T-boned. At
the speeds we were moving we would have sunk immediatly. Crashed
tacked just in time. Woulda protested but the offender got so far
behind it didn't matter.
Good turnout for the Etchells but real poor for the other one designs.
There were more E-22's than all others combined. Interestingly
enough it's the older owners who come out when it's windy. Lots
of people in their sixties and seventies. Unfortunately, this can't
last forever. You ocean racers really use up the talent pool.
One ocean racer uses up three Etchells worth of sailors.
Dave, I commiserate with your crew predicament. It takes a couple
of consecutive races to get into the routine but few can give the
time needed to do this. Especially true on string boats. Occasionally
it's safer to have fewer people on board when they're experienced
than more people if they can't watch out for themselves.
- gene
|
845.280 | New blood on its way | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Sep 25 1989 17:35 | 15 |
| Gene, you are right. We had 11 on board, but four were of no
experience to speak of which left us with seven on a windy day. Our
best headsail trimmer became our main trimmer, leaving our #2 trimmer
in charge and he had the leads too far forward for the first two upwind
legs. Nothing seemed to work.
Anyway, there is a lot of talk among some of the ocean racers about
going back to one design like the Etchells. I could see doing it and I
know David McHugh who owns Boadacia the Soverel 33 wants to get one.
It is really easy to get lazy on a big boat and one design brings back
a lot of those skills. The expense difference would be a big plus as
well :^).
Dave
|
845.281 | | HKFINN::FACHON | | Tue Sep 26 1989 10:21 | 7 |
| Certainly seems like the E-22 is the class to be in
these days. Top notch competition, and tremendous
upsurge in interest worldwide. I may be in one
in another year -- if the SC 70 falls through...
;)
|
845.282 | Been Curtisized? | MOOV00::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Tue Sep 26 1989 12:53 | 6 |
| Gene,
Is Dave Curtis in your fleet?
-Paul
|
845.283 | | STEREO::HO | | Tue Sep 26 1989 13:50 | 11 |
| re .282
Ayup. Had him in our sights last Sunday but he had more beef on
the rail than we did and got away. Lotta sailmakers in the
fleet (Doyle, Smith, Braun, Corwin). The current world champion
is the San Diego North franchisee. Interestingly enough, prior
to this year, the world champion ship was won twice by a working
stiff from Detroit who has no marine industry affiliation whatever.
- gene
|
845.284 | You mean Bruce | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Sep 26 1989 14:47 | 15 |
| That working stiff is a buddy of mine. Name is Bruce Burton along with
his crew Glen Burton and Chris Lucander. Used to live next to him in
Grosse Pointe, MI. He was the designee to the Olympics in the Flying
Dutchman class in 1980 when Carter banned US participation. He is a
great guy who does a lot of offshore work too. Used to steer for the
Sprint program.
He is the one who regularly berates me for not getting into one-design
racing. He alternates back and forth. He takes it very seriously, yet
has a ball. The Detroit E-22 fleet is not bad, especially at the
Bayview YC. It is guys like he, Glen and Chris that make me have faith
in the entire racing scene.
Dave
|
845.285 | The fat lady sings ... | 27884::BAILEYB | Crazy in the sunlight, yes indeed! | Mon Oct 02 1989 11:46 | 26 |
| Well, the Last Race is over ... and with it the 1989 racing season. It
was a picture perfect day to end the season on too. Nice steady wind,
lotsa sun, and reasonably calm seas. What more could you ask for.
The Jubilee RC set an interesting course, kind of a modified gold cup
course through the islands, roughly 17 miles.
We ended up taking a 3rd in the race, losing to IO boat-for-boat, and
to DARK HORSE on corrected time. But it was a great race, with IO
taking an early lead and us and DARK HORSE exchanging 2nd place
position and making runs at the leader throughout the race.
After the race was over we rafted up with BODACIOUS and wound down the
racing season with a proper celebration. After all, the WAGS crew had
a lot to celebrate this season. There is no doubt this was the best
racing season we've ever had. I think we lost our image as the
"Rodneys" of the fleet by winning 40% of the races we entered this
season and finishing in the top 3 more than 75% of the time. Just
wish we could figure out how ... :^)
Boat comes out in two weeks. Then it's the looong wait till May before
we sail again. Fortunately, there's skiing ...
... Bob
|
845.286 | What IS that thing? | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Oct 02 1989 14:01 | 15 |
| Well, FINALLY a race with sun, wind and a little luck. We took a
second behind Overtaker who got to the seabreeze first and just walked
away while we all sat watching them. The real fun was our private race
with Bodacious. Although we owe them three seconds a mile, it's proven
hard for us to beat them at all this season. We were blasting down the
spinaker leg right next to them when we tried a little diversionary
tactic to get the attention of their female crew. Given the shouts of
"oh my god!" I think it worked.
Once again the JYC ran a very uncomplicated, exciting race. By far the
best place to hang out after the race, too. I'd ber willing to bet
that Dean "the wonder horse" is not performing at his peak today.
Dave
|
845.287 | Good-bye '89 | HKFINN::FACHON | | Tue Oct 03 1989 11:11 | 18 |
| Ayup! Didn't even think to check in here.
Running pretty rough for most of the day. But
it was worth it. Sunday was GREAT. We also
had a lot of fun in our race with WildSide. Kept
a loose cover on them -- playing match racing -- until
we overstood a weather mark and they slipped ahead, er,
I mean into the lead. ;) We still had our time, but
we let them go on the final decent.
Bo had a tough season. Crew shortages, aging sails,
and less than good luck when it came to tactics (or maybe
we're just getting dumb). But next year should be better.
And I'll have a reasonably good shoulder again!
Cheerio,
Dean
|
845.288 | E-22 1990 kickoff meeting | 32543::HO | | Fri Mar 30 1990 14:56 | 23 |
| The 1990 racing season for the Marblehead Etchells fleet gets under way
this coming Thursday 4/5 with our annual "business" meeting. Time will
be 7:30 at the Boston Yacht Club. A good oppurtunity to learn about
the absolutely best racing/daysailing boat ever conceived by the
mind of man. Our fleet has an enthusiastic (fanatic?) membership and
we're always looking for new skippers, crews, groupies, and other
hangers on.
One new development this year is rumored progress on the Winter Island
sailing facility. Allegedly, docks, cranes, and other paraphanalia
will (might) be in place in time to give all the E-22's belonging to
Salem State College a home to sail from. That will solve the mooring
availability problem and make chartering one of thier boats a fairly
straightforward thing to do.
Hard to believe but it's only six weeks to the first race. All I have
to do is fix my blistering problem, fair out my skeg, re-hang my
rudder, bondo seven years worth of dings, remove the Awlgrip, prime,
repaint, re-nonskid the deck, and make a new gin pole. Allright...
maybe 8 weeks to my first race.
- gene
|
845.289 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Fri Mar 30 1990 15:24 | 8 |
| Boy that's funny. The people in my fleet all think we're sailing the
best one design on the planet. But these boats are too stubby to be
E-22's. :-)
Gene, maybe we should be like Larry Klein and switch boats for a while.
(after all your work is done)
Paul
|
845.290 | | STEREO::HO | | Fri Apr 06 1990 10:11 | 25 |
| The E-22 meeting went far too long into the night. Discussing by-law
changes with fleet full of lawyers is asking for it. When I woke up
the discussion had moved onto some new items for the coming season.
Our gun had been moved up to 12:30 for all races. yuck!!! Now I have
to get up an hour earlier.
The fleet intends to obtain a loaner boat for rental (cheap) use by
skippers wishing to try an E-22 out. This will be for racing or
day-sailing. It'll be dry stored at the Eastern Yacht Club.
Looks like at least four new skipper will join the fleet this year.
With none of last year's members leaving, we should be getting 20+
boats on the line each week. Matt Brown and Bill Uptogrove will be
co-skippering a boat as will Wally Corwin and Steve Cuchiaro. With
these guys out there I guess I can look forward to another year in the
cellar. We could use a few more turkeys but they seem to migrate to
other fleets.
Dave Curtis will give an on the water clinic on May 13 covering tuning
and boatspeed etc. Everyone is invited. Should be applicable to sail
trim on any fractional rig. It'll probably be held at the Eastern YC
dock. I'll post more details as they become available.
- gene
|
845.291 | North Sails On-the-water Seminar | TUNER::HO | | Fri May 04 1990 17:21 | 22 |
|
On Sunday May 13, the Marblehead North Sails loft will hold a go-fast sail
triming session using E-22's. Anyone can come. Participants will be
spread over whatever boats we can get together.
The agenda roughly is:
11:00 Meet at Eastern Yacht Club and listen to Dave Curtis and Jud Smith
lecture about the elements of speed.
12:00 - 3:00 Get out on the water. Dave and Jud play musical boats
showing people what to do.
3:00 - 4:00 Back to the Eastern YC for a de-briefing.
Cost of all this good advice is $0.00. Sail trim is sail trim. Even if
you never look at an Etchells again, the info will be useful. Even for
phrf boats.
Lemme know if you'd like to come so I can give the organizers a body count.
- gene
|
845.292 | | STEREO::HO | | Mon May 14 1990 17:51 | 36 |
| Despite a depressingly steady rain on the drive up, over 40 sailors
attended the North seminar. The Newport and Buzzards Bay fleets sent
sizeable contingents. Nature finally cooperated as we pulled into the
parking lot and the rain stopped. The only time we got wet was when
the 40 participants crowded onto one side of a floating dock to watch
the tuning demo submerged the float. I wish I had put my boots on
sooner.
The on the water diagnostic sailing was quite an eye opener. After
about 7 seasons I thought I knew what was going on. WRONG! Dave
Carter, Amy, and I went out with Rick Howard (Combat Zone to you
PHRF'ers). Rick sets up the boat, hands me the tiller, and says "Earn
your keep - sail it". The weather helm's so bad I hang on with both
hands. "Rick, this can't be right, it's too heavy." "Nah, you gotta
load up on that tiller". I suggested dropping the traveller but was
told to keep it up. All these years I've been trying to achieve a
light helm when heavy was the way to go.
After we got stearing out of the way, the next topic was roll tacking
an E-22. Not too easy when there are five people on board. We tried
anyway. I'm sure the bruises will heal in a few weeks.
When flying the chute I always cleated the guy and adjusted the sheet.
NOOOO! On a run especially, get the chute out from behind the main
with the sheet, cleat it, then play the pole to keep the edge on a
curl. On the takedown, I always dropped to leeward. "Always drop to
weather" says Rick. This takes practice to avoid chaos.
When we got back to the dock I couldn't even roll the sails right.
Seeing me start at the head and work my way down, Rick says "you're
supposed to start in the middle". I won't try to describe that process
in words. You have to see it.
All in all a humbling but informative weekend.
- gene
|
845.293 | humbling, indeed | ECADSR::FINNERTY | Reach out and luff someone | Mon May 14 1990 18:30 | 7 |
|
>> All in all a humbling but informative weekend.
Amen. In my case, I'd add bewildering. One question that I asked
Jud was how he determined how deep to make the main. His wry reply
was '18 years of experience'.
|
845.294 | E-22, Weather Helm & Speed! | MEMORY::LAZGIN | | Tue May 15 1990 08:54 | 10 |
| Gene,
The rudder correction fo weather helm adds lots of drag to your
boat. Did your speed log indicate you were moving faster?
Do you have any explaination why a heavy weather helm E-22 would
be faster than the same boat with balance?
Frank
|
845.295 | EJ-23 | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Tue May 15 1990 09:55 | 18 |
| I read an article by Larry Klein after he won the J/24 and E-22
worlds. He used alot of J techiniques on the E. Some of the things
he mentioned:
- Reshaping the keel and rudder to minimize weather helm.
- Depowering the rig to sail the boat flat. He said he sailed
the E flatter (less heel) than anyone else at the worlds, but not
as flat as a J.
- Aggresive pointing in the smooth water and footing in the chop.
This is accompanied by changes in the backstay, easing off
tension to power through waves.
I believe the winds were moderate at the E worlds. Is there a
difference of opinion here?
Paul
|
845.296 | | ECAD2::FINNERTY | Reach out and luff someone | Tue May 15 1990 10:29 | 25 |
|
>> Is there a difference of opinion here
yes. The experts don't do it the way I've always been told:
heavy helm is better vs heavy helm causes excessive drag, which
makes you go slow
play the guy vs play the sheet
hook the jib to weather vs jib leech straight aft
slightly
mainsheet loose with vs mainsheet tight close hauled,
vang when close hauled vang loose
sail it flat vs optimal heel angle > 0 deg
There were probably several others that I just don't remember. I found
it both humbling and a little discouraging to see that there was so
much difference between conventional technique and winning technique.
The discouraging part is that I don't understand why some of these
things work better, e.g. a heavy helm.
|
845.297 | dangerous to generalize? | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Tue May 15 1990 10:37 | 6 |
| re the last few:
Are different techniques better for different boats? I am suspicious of
the conclusion that if X works best for boat Y, then X works best for
all boats.
|
845.298 | E-22 has a fin keel? | TARKIN::HAYS | Is this the end or the beginning? ... Phil BXB02-2/G06 293-5852 | Tue May 15 1990 11:21 | 18 |
| RE:.296 by ECAD2::FINNERTY "Reach out and luff someone"
> The discouraging part is that I don't understand why some of these
> things work better, e.g. a heavy helm.
Why substantial helm is better expained in "Sailing theory and practice"
(Majachei - I can't spell his name).
The seperate rudder and fin keel are lifting devices. The minimum drag comes
with both of them creating lift. If the helm is too light, most of the lift
is generated by the keel, and induced drag will be higher. If the helm is
too heavy, the rudder will stall, and total drag will again be higher.
With a full keel, the rudder is not an independant lifting device, and
minimum drag comes with fairly light helm.
Phil
|
845.299 | Not all the same | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue May 15 1990 11:38 | 12 |
| VERY dangerous to generalize. Our One-tonner is meant to be sailed
FLAT. This is a wierd feeling that has to be gotten used to. Our old
boat was designed to be sailed with 10 degrees heel to reduce wetted
surface. Also depends on your keel shape. For example, with our
narrow chord, deep keel you have to fall off a bit at first to build up
the speed to let the keel develop lift and then slowly head back up to
a good point. This process must be repeated if you hit a wave the
wrong way and slow down again.
I also am dismayed by these counter intuitive moves.
Dave
|
845.300 | One sailor's answers | POBOX::DBERRY | | Tue May 15 1990 13:41 | 41 |
| I have raced on several different boats, and never found one that was
faster with a lot of weather helm. On the boats I've been on they
always were the fastest with some weather healm, but not too much(5-10%
of rudder).
We always played both the guy and the sheet. Keep the pole always
parrallel to the wind(even when shifting) and use the sheet to have
just a little curl.
Hooking the jib to weather depends on the size of the jib and sheeting
location. With big genoas and light air it works VERY WELL to sheet
way in-board and put a little weather hook on it. This holds the genoa
shape to match the shape of the main more closely creating a better
slot. At other times, I have used no hook to weather (unless barber
hauling).
When sailing close hauled, I don't worry too much about the vang, but I
sheet the mainsheet to set sail shape and then set the traveller for
pointing angle. The issue of vang sheeting comes when your a sailing
sufficiently off the wind that the main cannot also hold down the boom.
Then you set sail shape with the vang and controll pointing angle with
the main sheet.
A little heel is always desirable. Boats are built to be sailed that
way. In light air conditions you want heal to reduce wetted surface.
In very light conditions you will get more speed by having crew move al
the way forward and to leaword(lifts the stern further reducing wetted
surface). Reduction of wetted surface is only really pertinent in
light air. In heavier air you want to avoid extreme heel because it
stalls the keel and you encounter A LOT OF SLIPPAGE TO LEAWARD. You
are far better off sailing a little slower and flatter(10-15 degrees)
and making better Velocity Made Good(VMG).
Sailing under spinaker down wind, you should try to work your way t
leaward(don't come up any at least). This way you will have clear air
when you are going straight(or nearly straight) downwind, which is
important because it is a very slow point of sail. Then you can come
up when you near the mark and have better boat speed and
manueverabvility when close to the mark and things are tight and the
air is bad.
A little long perhaps, but one sailers opinion.( I have been on boats
winning 4th place in the Governor's cup on the Chesapeake and on a
second place boat at the nationals, as well as other iron(low point
championship stuff).
Dave Berry
|
845.301 | Two transferrable ideas | ECAD2::FINNERTY | Reach out and luff someone | Tue May 15 1990 14:10 | 16 |
|
The jib hooked slightly to weather makes sense because the boat is
slipping slightly to leeward; this makes the leech approximately
parallel to the direction that the boat is travelling.
They set the traveller to windward so that the angle that the sheet
made with the boom was very small; this way sheeting the main pulled
the boom more nearly athwartships and exerted less downward pull.
Downward and athwartships adjustments could then be made more
independently, which makes a lot of sense.
These two ideas should be transferrable to other boats. The others
I dunno.
/Jim
|
845.302 | Flat Feet are Fast | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Tue May 15 1990 15:28 | 24 |
| Here's one that has done wonders for my boatspeed:
For genoa trim to windward, we are all taught to adjust the fore & aft
postion of the sheet lead so that the luff breaks evenly from top to bottom.
The problem is, in most wind conditions and on most boats - this is SLOW.
First, having the entire genny luff or stall at once is not very forgiving. You
can only hold such a fine coarse in very flat water. In most conditions you
need a wider sailing groove. Second, this lead postion will give you a full
shape in the foot of the genny and "leach return" - a lower leach section
angled in toward the center line. This creates drag and backwinds the main.
If you move the lead back and trim the sheet so that the genoa head luffs
slightly before the foot, wonderful things happen! The sail has more
twist, this gives you a wider sailing groove (better for cruising too).
The foot flattens and the leech return disapears -> less leach drag and
main backwind. A flat foot in the main combines well with a flat genny
foot - tighten the outhaul. Best of all, you feel the boat go faster.
This has worked for me in all but light and heavy conditions. In extremely
light and heavy air, you want even more twist in the sails.
Paul
|
845.303 | Sometimes | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue May 15 1990 16:13 | 34 |
| I'd agree with the flat foot approach, but differ in that we vary it
with wind speed. The higher the wind speed, the flatter we trim the
bottom of the headsail. It is a good way to extend the range of say a
heavy #1 when the wind pipes up and you only have a short distance to
the mark and you don't want to change sails.
Same with the main. A flat main on a big frac rig in light to medium
air isn't very fast.
By the way, many cruisers I've seen have adopted this approach to the
extreme. Happily sailing with the top half of their roller furling
genny merrily flapping in the breeze. ;^)
Seriously, this is yet another reason even cruising boats need a simple
way to adjust jib leads. Many are just not equipped to do this in an
efficient way.
While we're at it tearing down old myths, you do not want your clews to
be even when sailing a chute. The clew at the pole should be lower
than the the clew at the sheet. This is the way the chute wants to fly
anyway. It opens up the leach and improves flow at the luff.
Somebody earlier suggested to try to stay down while sailing downwind.
I'd like to race against that person! It depends totally on your
polars. Most times you want to sail higher than dead downwind and jibe
a lot. VMG is much improved over dogging it down wind in all but
blasting conditions. You do not want to be approaching the leeward
mark any higher than your polars say you should be sailing for maximum
VMG. If you do approach it higher, you have sacrificed speed earlier
by sailing too low, or sailed too much distance if you jibe and then
approach the mark on a hot angle. You can't argue with the numbers!
It is the execution that separates good sailors from mediocre sailors.
Dave
|
845.304 | 'tis the season ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Tue May 15 1990 17:21 | 53 |
| Oh boy, this conversation is really whetting my appetite for the racing
season. Here are some comments, based on what we learned from a rather
successful season last year.
RE .300 (Dave Berry)
We also play both the sheet and guy, but don't you want to keep the
pole perpendicular (not parallel) to the wind?
Fractional rigs for the most part do not go dead down very well, so as
Dave J. mentioned, the fastest way to get theah from heah is to play
the polars and do a lot of gybing.
Our boat does not sail well flat ... as you say a little heel is ALWAYS
desireable. In light air we put the crew on the leeward rail to make
the boat heel. One advantage is better sail shape (a genny that looks
like your living room drapes is definitely slow).
RE .302 (Paul Keenan)
We found that adjusting the genny car back and pulling the sail flat as
you mentioned works extremely well in moderate to heavy air when the
seas are flat. But in heavier seas you need to move the car forward
for more power thru the waves and head down a coupla degrees to
compensate. However, you are right on in saying that adjusting so the
luff breaks evenly is very unforgiving ... and most fracs have a narrow
adjustment "window" anyway ... a couple of degrees off and you stall.
Another trick that works extremely well if you have adjustable cars is
to move the car on the lazy side forward prior to a tack (the amount
varies depending on conditions and boat). Make your tack, and as you
are grinding the sheet in, allow the car to move back with you. This
gives you a fuller shape (more power) right after the tack and allows
you to accelerate quicker as the helmsperson brings the boat up to its
proper course.
RE .303 (Dave Johnston)
>> It is the execution that separates good sailors from mediocre
>> sailors.
True, but perhaps you should use the word "racers" instead of
"sailors". Some in here would make that distinction. The secret to
winning races depends more on execution though than pure boat speed (at
least in our experience). You can make up for a LOT with good tactics
(guesswork in New England conditions) and with crisp tacks and gybes.
Incidentally, I'll be crewing for most races on Bodacious this season,
and only occasionally crewing on Wags. So Dean and I will have to flip
a coin or something to see who puts in the race reports this year.
... Bob
|
845.305 | Diff'rent strokes | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue May 15 1990 17:36 | 10 |
| All of this leads me back to the earlier reply I gave (and Alan's) that
there are no hard and fast rules for every boat.
Bob, you may not want your pole perpendicular to the wind. Depends on
your point of sail and wind speed. Too long to put in right now. Why
aren't you continuing your winning ways on Wags this year? I think you
and Dean should both report in. The difference in perspective could be
interesting. Going to do this weekend's race? Not us.
Dave
|
845.306 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Wed May 16 1990 09:18 | 16 |
| RE .305
I decided to try something different this year, and Bo' is a good
boat to continue my sailing education on. Wags has a surplus of crew
this season so the timing was good. I'll be doing Thursday nights and
occasional week-ends on Wags, and expect to see both boats in the top
echelon of their respective fleets (again) this season.
Won't be doing this week-end's race. Wags is in, and we've already
been out for a tune-up. Bo' goes in this week-end. But I'm heading
up to the White Mts. this week-end to feed the black flies ... ;^(
First race of the season for me is tomorrow night (JYC) ... ;^)
... Bob
|
845.307 | RE. 303/304 | POBOX::DBERRY | | Wed May 16 1990 10:51 | 22 |
| re .303
I am, first of all, not used to sailing in fractional rigs. I was not
advocating sailing dead down wind. When you watch a fleet run for a
mark(not a reallong run where you have room for multipe gybes), most
people point up too high going for speed and leave a slow run for
themselves at the end. If you sail a little lower earlier you have
better speed at the end. Maybe you gybe your boat every hundred yards
sharply, but most crews aren't quite up to that. You also run some
risk with very frequent gybes.
re. 304 yes, of course perpendicular, I just went brain dead for a
moment.
You're approach of letting the car forward when tacking has some merit.
It's true that you need to get power in a sail after a tack to get your
speed back up. Another approach you might want to try(if you have an
adjustable backstay) is to ease the backstay instead of moving the car.
You will have twist more apporpriate to the wind conditions and a
fuller sail both.
Dave
|
845.308 | Jibe-ho | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Wed May 16 1990 13:03 | 38 |
| This is getting to be a tactics clinic, but I guess that's okay.
I disagree that going low at the beginning of a run is the right thing
to do. Even in a masthead it can be devastating. The key assumption I
make is that the mark is more or less dead downwind. Then you should
sail to your polars. This will get you to the mark the fastest over
the length of the leg. By knowing your polar generated wind angles and
the position of the mark, you can time your jibes to come into the mark
at the same angle you were sailing the rest of the leg.
A crew's ability to do controlled jibes at will is not a factor you
should have to worry about on the course. Practice them until you can
do jibes every 30 seconds for five minutes with no screwups. By not
having this confidence in the crew, you are putting a heck of a
tactical handicap on yourself.
By going low others are going to get into the "passing lane" by sailing
a bit higher and blow by you. They then jibe and cross in between you
and the mark. I repeat, the fastest way to get from point A to point B
downwind is to always, always attempt to sail at the angle that
maximizes your VMG and that is what we call your polars.
Another point is that we have assumed no wind shifts. You wouldn't say
at the beginning of an upwind leg "let's stay high on port and then
make one tack onto starboard when we reach the layline." Ofcourse not.
Why? Because if the wind shifted even a little bit and you didn't
react, you'd be left in the tail end of the pack. Tacking on sifts
comes naturally to most people.
Jibing on wind shifts is even more important and can pay huge
dividends. To then plan your downwind leg not to have to jibe is
leaving even more opportunity for the bad guys to pass you.
If you have really good speed, your strategy can work on reaching legs
in light air and possibly downwind in very heavy air. Other than those
two situations the watch phrase is "prepare to jibe!"
Dave
|
845.309 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Wed May 16 1990 14:02 | 17 |
| On windshifts during windward .vs. leeward:
The positive or negative effects of a windshift on one boat .vs.
another is a function of separation - the distance between the two
boats measured at right angles to the wind. Because fleets are *usually*
separated more on windward than leeward legs, wind shifts are *usually*
more important on the windward legs.
This is especially true in one design fleets where few people take
leeward flyers (the polars are all the same) and the whole fleet tends
to go down wind as a mob.
If your fleet tends to always play the same side to windward and then
split up going to leeward, then wind shifts will be more important to
leeward. It all depends on separation.
Paul
|
845.310 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Wed May 16 1990 17:12 | 40 |
| RE .304
Having raced with Dave J. on his former boat, I can attest to the fact
that most crews aren't quite up to the boat handling of his "regulars".
'Course, he doesn't exactly go out sailing with his family ... most of
his crew is recruited from college racing programs.
That said, he's totally correct about practicing hard and long till
you're confident you CAN make quick gybes, and tacks, and sail changes,
etc. It does more than just help your boat speed ... it opens up whole
new possibilities in your course strategy. This concept is one I took
back to Wags two years ago after guest crewing on both Fat Tuesday and
Bodacious and observing how their crews executed. And last season we
saw very dramatic results. At our level (non-professional, PHRF),
execution is everything, and the boats with the most experienced crews
(and not necessarily the hottest boats) are invariably among the fleet
leaders.
RE .308
So let's have a tactics clinic in here then ... can you think of a
better way to get back into the racing mindset? Me neither ... ;^)
I was wondering when somebody was going to mention wind shifts. I have
the impression that wind shifts affect the outcome of races more here
in New England than elsewhere, and that conventionsl wisdom in other
parts of the world may not place as much emphasis on it as we do. Is
this true?
We put a printer on Wags last season to plot wind shifts as we were
racing, and you'd be surprised how much that helped us determine our
course strategy, particularly in the latter stages of a race when
patterns start to become evident.
RE .310
Yes, it's great to be at it again ...
... Bob
|
845.311 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed May 16 1990 17:37 | 18 |
| This discussion is going way over my head. I'm still trying to push my
arm back into its socket from this past weekend. Can't for the life of
me figure out why lots of weather helm is fast. This isn't a totally
new experience. Two seasons ago I went out speed testing with Jud
Smith, each of us in our own boats. Initially I was slower than Jud.
Jud yelled out some changes to make, which I did, and the boat
immediately sped up. But the helm felt awful. Lots of weather helm
and it was only blowing ten knots out. But I had no further problem
keeping up with Jud. I thought we had to be sailing in different winds
and ignored the advice in the race. As is my usual custom, I got
clobbered. But at other times I sailed with lots of helm and watched
the fleet walk away from me. Strange, very strange.
Maybe I can draw on the experience on some of our noters. When your
boat's beating to weather in medium air and smooth water, does it
require more than your fingertips to control the tiller/wheel?
- gene
|
845.312 | | HKFINN::FACHON | | Thu May 17 1990 09:01 | 23 |
| re Bob
Sorry guy, I pulled my note 'cause I thought it
sounded too "full of myself."
All I wanted to say is that "seat of the pants"
matters a lot. There is no one right way to set
up any boat. I've seen two different styles of
setting up a J35 work equally well side-by side.
One was Bo, the other the "factory boat." Sure,
there are certain combinations of things that
work together, but that's not to say a specific
condition limits you to only one combination.
Anyone want to wet-sand tonight?
;)
|
845.313 | genoa trim downwind | ECAD2::FINNERTY | Reach out and luff someone | Thu May 17 1990 10:19 | 13 |
|
>> Anyone want to wet sand tonight?
sorry Dean, but I already got an offer to scrape varnish. ;)
Maybe someone out there can offer some ideas about downwind trim of
a genoa (assuming no spinnaker). What I usually do is trim the sheet
to align with the center of effort of the genoa, but down around 150
degrees or so off the wind this looks *ugly* and seems slow.
If rules prohibit poling it out when on the same side as the main,
what should it look like to go fast?
|
845.314 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Thu May 17 1990 10:19 | 13 |
| RE 310
Bob,
There's a book by Stuart Walker called "Wind & Strategy". It contains
more information on wind shifts than you'd ever want. I been working my
way through the book for over 6 months - it's not easy.
Alot of guesswork can be taken out of shift prediction.
Specifically for you, there's over ten pages on Marblehead winds.
The book is no longer in print, but you can get it from a good library.
Paul
|
845.315 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Thu May 17 1990 11:38 | 16 |
| RE .313
After about 150 degrees you might want to think about going
wing-on-wing and poling out on the side opposite to the boom.
About the only advice I can think of is to make sure you loosen the
halyard tension (in light to moderate winds this is a MUST). Of
course, you also have to remember to tighten if back before you round
the mark and head back upwind.
RE .314
Thanx for the pointer ... maybe I'll check it out.
... Bob
|
845.316 | re windshifts | POBOX::DBERRY | | Thu May 17 1990 18:37 | 10 |
| re. 310
Windshifts (and holes) are important everywhere I've sailed which has
been primarily the Chesapeake and San Francisco. Everyone should read
up on weather. There are categories of wind shifts that are
predicatable based on where you are. In fact some of them are cyclic
and can be timed. This allows you when beating to time your tacks to
be lifted more often than headed....Talk about an advantage. The
cyclic conditions are espeicially true if there are hills buildings
etc. around.
Dave
|
845.317 | gybing frequency?? | POBOX::DBERRY | | Thu May 17 1990 18:38 | 5 |
| Question on Polars: anybody know how to accurately factor loss of
speed during gybes into how often you gybe and can this be tied to
polars and wind speed?
Dave
|
845.318 | | STEREO::HO | | Fri May 18 1990 10:48 | 16 |
| Not all boats lose speed during gibes. Dinghy's sailed by compentent
skippers can come out of a gibe going faster than when they went in.
Crew competence is a big unknown here. If the crew doesn't like to
gibe, ignore the polars and wait for a sign from God. Chances are God
will gibe the boat without the crew's intervention.
Crew competence and tactical considerations aside (gaining the inside
position, boats sitting on your air, etc), boats that lose the most
speed during gibes should gibe the most often. Boats that lose the
least speed during jibes should jibe the least.
I'll leave it to the readers to explain why this is true and how the
answer relates to the shape of the polars.
- gene
|
845.319 | | HKFINN::FACHON | | Fri May 18 1990 14:07 | 42 |
| Cute Gene. But I don't think it's an accurate
generalization. I won't attempt to follow your
implied rational.
About jibing, you've got to do it as often as conditions
require -- ie whenever the other jibe is getting you
to the mark faster, or giving you position that you think
will get you to the mark faster (that's a study in and of
itself). This is true no matter what your boat's inherent
jibe characteristics. This concern about weighting
jibe characteristics against polars is, it seems
to me, misplaced. If you want to improve, try the
following experiments:
Have someone time your jibes -- from the get-go until
the pole is set with chute drawing and the boom
fully jibed. Also have the timer log boat speed; before,
the slowest it gets, and immediately upon completion (could
set up a PC to do this).
Practice until you maintain the highest average speed.
Do so by:
Working on execution at all levels
Trying alternate jibe methods (end-for-end, dip pole)
Varying the arc through which you steer (sharp, gradual,
gradual to sharp, etc)
When you find what works best, practice that some more.
And be ready to modify the procedure for different *conditions*.
(Sort of like defining "maneuvering polars" where execution is
a BIG factor, no?)
And jibe when it makes tactical sense. You're never gonna
figure out how many jibes to make on a leg based
on polars vs. how well you execute. Mother nature will
see to that EVERY time.
IMHO
;)
|
845.320 | Cute Huh? | STEREO::HO | | Fri May 18 1990 17:22 | 66 |
| Cute? Me? Even my wife doesn't call me that. Not even on payday. 8^)
If crew limititations are getting in the way around the course, this is
a good way to overcome them. It's not much fun going downwind if
everyone on board has gibe-o-phobia.
Cute as my answer sounds, I believe that it's right. Let me give a hint.
A boat's gibeing characteristics are a function of its polars. Or more
correctly, a boat's polars are a graphical representation of its
sailing characteristics during a gibe (as well as other points of
sail).
I don't think we want to "trade off a the boat's gibeing
characteristics against its polars". Instead, we can determine its
gibeing characteristics from its polars. This is possible without ever
having sailed or even seen the boat in question.
To give a further hint, take two boats: a Westsail 32 (a dog) and a
Santa Cruz 70 (a sled). What's the polar for the dog look like? ans -
a circle with a slice of pie missing from the top. What's the polar
for the sled look like? ans - sort of a bow tie.
Now, following the polar plot, what happens to V (not VMG) as we go
from 100 deg through 260 deg with the dog? ans - nothing. What
happens when we do this with the sled. ans - V drops, reaches a min,
then goes back up. Soooo, which boat slows down the most during a
gibe?
Step 2: We'll go through same exercise but this time we'll plot VMG
istead of V. VMG = VcosA where A = # of deg from dead down wind. What
happens to the dog? ans - VMG steadily increases and is max at A = 0
(the dog is dead downwind). What happens to the sled? ans - VMG
increases, maxes out, decreases, then hits a min at A = 0. What's this
tell us? Ans - for the steady wind condition of this example, aim the
dog dead down wind where the mark is. For the sled, sail the A that
gives max VMG.
Step 3: Let's throw in some wind shifts. On a polar plot we can
show this by imagining the leeward mark initially at 180 and then
rotating the polar plot in line with the wind shift with the mark
fixed. VMG = V cos D where D = # deg from the rhumbline. Graphically
this is the same as dropping a perpendicular from the point on the
polar curve to the rhumbline. What happens to the angle D that yields
the max VMG as the polar plot rotates for the dog. Ans - as the
circle rotates, the best VMG is at D = 0, the dog stays on the
rhumbline. What happens to the sled. Ans - VMG will be max a D > 0.
If D yields a negative VMG, it's time to jibe.
Because the shape of the polar for the sled is a bow tie, there is a
relatively small number of degrees which produce max VMG compared to
the number of degrees in average wind osillation. This means as the
wind oscillates around DDW, we need to get from one lobe of the bow tie
to the other, ie gibe as often as the wind shifts. For the dog, who's
polar is a circle, VMG stays at max when he stay pointed at the mark no
matter what the wind does. Since his sails are stalled anyway, he
doesn't even have to jibe when the wind swings to the leeward side of
the boat. Sailing by the lee is just as fast as sailing normally if
there isn't much attached flow anyway. It can be faster even. So the
dog doesn't gibe much at all.
All this may or may not be true, but the cute answer is much easier to
remember.
- gene
|
845.321 | polars don't tell you that... | DICKNS::FACHON | | Mon May 21 1990 12:08 | 10 |
| Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think
polars provide performance predictions for ANY
maneuver. However, they will give you the
jibe angles. How you transition between those
angles depends on how you "use" your boat's
momentum...
Whatever works for you...
;)
|
845.322 | Highly technical approach | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon May 21 1990 12:48 | 6 |
| Gene, good illustration. My assumption was that the polars looked more
like the sled than the dog. The BEST way to sail a Westsail 32
downwind (in less than thirty knots of breeze) is to crack open a beer
and turn on the engine. ;^)
Dave
|
845.323 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Mon May 21 1990 12:52 | 6 |
| Momentum will be a factor, but Gene's analysis seems correct to me.
If both boats are gybed perfectly, the Dog will see no decrease in
sail power but the Sled will see a big power drop and slow down. Also,
steering through a larger angle involves more drag for the Sled.
Paul (How many different ways can you spell "gybe")
|
845.324 | Article in SAIL | SLSTRN::RONDINA | | Mon May 21 1990 13:01 | 7 |
| There is a discussion of polars in the May 90 edition of SAIL Magazine.
In the article they have shown diagrams on how to figure your boats
polars and the effect wind shifts will have on the boat. Their overall
recommendation was that knowing these polars can help you head up or
fall off during wind shifts or wind speed variations.
Paul
|
845.325 | Not in multihull racing | AKOV11::KALINOWSKI | | Mon May 21 1990 13:34 | 38 |
| Gene
In Multihull racing, we gybe all the time.
A: because of the boats relatively light weight and mimimum drag,
they accellerate with a gybe. I have gained 100 yards on a pack
of boats scooting toward the leeward mark like a waterbug. There is
also less chance of breakage over monohulls, since the boat will either
squit forward, flip, or auger in, rather then overloading the
mast/hardware.
B: I am looking for boat speed. Whatever I can do to Manufacture wind
is usally worth it to a point(ie no going off to the next latitude
just because the speed is best on a beam reach). I am trying to get
my boat pulled out of the water. Attacking at an angle allows me to
motor over that wave in front on me, I then head down and let the wave
push me as I mount the next attack. I am using the kinetic energy
like a fighter pilot would who is swooping down. As I gather energy,
I can either use it then, or store it for a short time by retrimming
the sails.
C. The spinnaker pole is fixed at the center. the clew is a continous
line around the boat. We just let go on one side and watch it blow
in front of us. As the gybe is completed, we sheet her in from the
other side of the boat.
D. Gybing is a great tactical method to destroy any leeches who are
following, doing everything you are, and waiting for your mistake. If
your execution is better than theres, at the least you get out of
close spying distance. At best, you get to laugh at the suckers as
they auger in and practice their breast stroke . ;>) This also
tests both crews stamina and concentration.( Don't ya just love
racing! ) One must be careful not to ignore the rest of the the boats
just to waste one boat, but used properly, it pays dividends.
So then, If one has a boat that can go faster than the apparent wind
on a down wind leg, it should be done if the difference makes up for
the distance used.
john
|
845.326 | | STEREO::HO | | Mon May 21 1990 14:36 | 11 |
| Multihulls are an extreme case of sled. The length of the lobes in the
lower two quandrants of their polar diagrams mandate gibing downwind to
max VMG.
The shape of the polar is reliable indicator of the amount of way or
momentum a boat will carry. A heavy displacement boat carries a lot of
way on but doesn't benefit from gibing downwind. The opposite is true
of the an overcanvassed lightweight which slows dramatically in the
slightest lull. Circles are heavyweights, bow ties are lightweights.
- gene
|
845.327 | | DICKNS::FACHON | | Mon May 21 1990 14:41 | 22 |
| Tell me, in english, how to factor *how much* a boat slows down
in transition into deciding whether or not to jibe. Wasn't that
the point of the original question?
Maybe this is over my head, but I reiterate that,
for maneuvers, ie transition states, the polars *do not* give
you quantified predictions. Conclusions so drawn are based
on inference -- rather more like assumptions. I just happen
to assume I can jibe a sled pretty quick.
I like the jibe-when-the-other-side-is-getting-there-quicker
*rule* -- as practiced with polars -- except when its time to
invoke the air-looks-better-over-there override, or the
air-looks-like-it-*might-get*-better-over-there payer.
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.328 | The Wed. Evening Marblehead Series Begins | TARGON::DRUEKE | | Thu May 24 1990 10:20 | 67 |
|
Ahhhh, Springtime in New England, first race of the season! All those extra
hours wet sanding seemed to help when we practiced last week, hopes are high,
everybody's psyched, let's go get the boat.
Seems like a very low tide...... VERY LOW, glad the bottom is soft around here!
"Hi. Ya, we came down last night and put in the new stoppers and the topping
lift for the downwind pole....Sure we're excited!........How come he's Late,
can't wait much longer......Damn, try a little harder next time. I know traffic
can be murder from Boston."
Ok, NOAA said NE 10-15, moving N 10-15 tonight, we're seeing SE at 7 ok but why
isn't the speedo working, I'll take a look.....Well, that'll make tonight
interesting. Great, the committee boat is out early and they've got the course
up already! Good chance to practice those tips from the racing course we took
last Jan.
How come the course says "Y,A,B" and I can't find those marks!
Wait a minute, someone on the commedy boat just said 15,18, what's goin' on?
The guy at the club said "Yup, this is for 1990 and that's all you need" when
we picked up the 'new' chart on launch day.
"Race Committee, Race Committee, this is ........ Do we have the right charts?"
.....
"Ok, the course is 36,15,18 from last year's chart, Thank You."
Ya, lets go to the light #1, sure we can change it before the start.
Great work guys!! that new head foil sure works slick.
Little toy? Naw, that cost about...
10, 9, 8,.....Bang! Hey, they're over early and we're #2 - Great Start, probably
best ever!!!!! Ok we'll watch the other fleet 'til you figure out the
rhumb line.
"Hey the wind's goin' away, let's watch sail trim real close ok?"
"I've lost steerage, what's going on??"......Lobster pot? Ok I've got....
That new knife sure is slick, one slice and... ok, let's go...Hey how did they
get back over the line and way out there?
"We have a what? on Stbd? a 2nd one?!!! - Thank you for telling us."
No, that was just the float, I wonder what it got hung up on, oh well. Where'd
the breeze go?
......
"Race Committee, Race Committee, this is ......., we are retiring, thank you
for the opportunity, see you next week."
Let's listen to that audio tape we just recorded to review cockpit conversations
.....How come the engine is so loud?
Ok, I'll check it out this weekend.
Ok guys, see you next week, we'll go over to the club and get the right chart...
"You mean the A fleet hadn't hit the 1st mark after an hour? You retired too??
Ya, we needed the right chart as well."
Nice ride home, I'm pooped... But how come the guy on the radio says it was
warmer last Thankgiving Day??
|
845.329 | Eastern Spring Race Class A Win | CIVIC::BUCHANAN | | Thu May 24 1990 12:58 | 40 |
| Yeah! Love this notesfile.
Wednesday night was not the first race of the season. Yaquina
(ex-Overtaker) has been out the last two weekends. Two weeks ago we
took a fourth and a first (and first in the regatta) in the tune-up
races sailed off of the Corinthian. Two downwind starts down to
Bowditch and around the channel buoy. We learned to stay right where
the wind is less fluky.
Last weekend we won the Eastern Yacht Club Spring race in Class A.
This was an interesting course which began off of Tinkers gong and
involved a triangle plus a second beat and a run back to the line.
We won the start fair and square from the middle of the line. Rustler
(Express 37?) pinched the fleet to windward keeping them bottled up and
forcing many of them to tack right. Our chief competitor, Coalition,
(a new Taylor 40) gained as they stayed to the favorable right side of
the course on the beat. We reached the windward mark 15 seconds before
them and this was as close to us as they came in the whole race. We
were pleased to discover that our crew, which has practiced since the
first week of April, (first in the water, first in one piece, last in
the hearts of competitors) made no serious errors over four genoa
changes and two spinnaker peals. There is some impressive talent
aboard. The owner is Chuck Samuelson who used to race Andante (J-30)
out of Marblehead and Boston. Jud Smith is on board on occasion; Bob
Grout, the ex-owner; Tommy Tompkins; and some other experienced folks.
Interesting sidelight on the trophy presentation: The head of the
Eastern YC race committee made some crack about the boat being full of
ringers before handing over the iron. Never seen that before. Bump
Wilcox was on one of the other boats and there were plenty of rock
stars spread throughout the fleet. I have had my doors blown off
scores of times by members of the Eastern who have their sailmakers on
board. Now, I haven't raced in Marblehead in a number of years. Is
this a new ethic or just sour grapes? Any opinions?
We are looking forward to the JFK Regatta this weekend? Any of you
going to be there?
Richard
|
845.330 | Wish I'd been there | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Thu May 24 1990 13:07 | 7 |
| As Overtaker, the crew did not endear themselves to many last year.
The impression a lot of us got was that the boat was being sailed by
Jud's buddies. I also would not put Bump in the same category as Jud.
Bob Grout didn't help matters in the public relations department,
either. Looking forward to being out there with you guys soon.
Dave
|
845.331 | One more thing | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Thu May 24 1990 13:08 | 2 |
| One more question. How often does the new owner drive the boat? Is
Jud steering or providing tactics?
|
845.332 | | STEREO::HO | | Thu May 24 1990 13:56 | 15 |
| Let's not be too harsh on poor Jud. Like the rest of us he has a
mortgage and family to support and does what needs to be done to close
business. It is funny though how his presence on board in any capacity
makes a boat go faster.
re. the Eastern YC committee chairman. If it was Tom Brennanan making
the presentation, he is a confirmed DIY'er as far as sailing is
concerned. Literally. He frequently single hands his Etchells in
fleet racing, and finishes in a respectable position. When his
daughter was old enough (8 yrs old) she occassionally joined him.
After his boat would pass mine I'd endear myself to my crew by saying
"Tom's got his ringer crew on board - his 8 yr old daughter". After
that crack I usually found myself single handing back to the mooring.
- gene
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845.333 | Jud ain't the problem | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Thu May 24 1990 15:02 | 20 |
| I meant nothing against Jud! He's a good guy and a hell of a racer. I
just don't believe anybody that is a pro should steer unless he or she
is the owner. I also don't like it when the owner doesn't know any of
the crew. An arranged crew, a pro that drives, what is there for the
owner/skipper to take credit for? Oh, I forgot. He takes credit for
paying for it all. Sounds like a blast, doesn't it? Lots of
satisfaction in it as well.
Our policy is that there is a lot to learn from the pro's. We do take
advantage of their experience (especially now, with a frac that we
clearly do not know how to make go fast) by hiring them as consultants
and go PRACTICE with them. This reduces the pressure to buy their
sails and lets us forbid the sales hype while they are on our nickle.
When it comes time to race, we like to do it ourselves. It takes us a
year or so to get a boat to go fast, but when we win there is no
question who gets the credit.
Off my soapbox, return to work feeling a LOT better.
Dave
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845.334 | | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Thu May 24 1990 17:19 | 21 |
| re -.1:
Dave,
Aw come on, quit griping! Aren't you one of the guys who kept telling me
that I should stop griping about the PHRF rules, optimize my boat, spend
piles of money, get a good crew, etc, etc, etc?
Your problem is clearly a suboptimal crew! Get your act together and
practice, practice, practice! No excuses!
Alan
PS Just so I'm not misunderstood, the above is said in great jest and
with no intent other than humor and if I've offended, I humbly apologize
here and now.
PPS I'm now sure you can understand how I feel trying to racing a fully
optimized cruising boat boat in Marblehead fleets. To me you guys are
about as much better than I am as the pros you're grumbling about are
better than you. As said with a big smile.
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845.335 | Maybe a full length keel, too... | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Thu May 24 1990 17:44 | 6 |
| Griping relieves my blood pressure. Actually, this does point out a
problem that exists in club racing. How far does one go and yet remain
"amateur"? Maybe I'll take a chainsaw and some fiberglas matting and
convert Wildside to a double ender and be done with it! ;^)
Dave
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845.336 | Who drives? | CIVIC::BUCHANAN | | Fri May 25 1990 10:22 | 9 |
| re .331
The owner drives the boat 100% of the time (even when he shouldn't).
Jud coaches on tactics and sail trim. The owner is fairly experienced
and there is some good discussion between him, Jud and the other
members of the crew as well. Jud is the only "professional" on board,
but what a professional!
Richard
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845.337 | we're baaaaaack ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Fri May 25 1990 10:24 | 75 |
| Wags had their first race of the season last night (JYC Thursday night
series). They've really changed the rules this season, with additional
courses and the adoption of time-on-time handicapping (which I do not
yet understand). Wags picked up right where we left off last season,
being the first across the starting line, playing the wind shifts to
perfection, and crossing the finish line way in front of the rest of
the fleet.
For those of you in PHRF C fleet this year, keep an eye on Toot Sweet
(Aphrodite 101). These guys looked F-A-S-T last night, dueling around
the course with two boats that owed them 27 and 48 seconds per mile,
respectively. I look for them to win some races this year, especially
in light air conditions.
RE .329
Congrats. We won that race in B fleet last year, and were the 2nd boat
across the line overall (only Claddagh, the A fleet winner was in front
of us). When Claddagh went up for their trophy the guy handing them
out pointed to us and said to the Claddagh skipper "watch out for those
guys". I think he just likes to find something to say to make the
presentations a little less boring.
I noticed Claddagh was launched yesterday, so prepare for some stiffer
competition than you'll get from the likes of Rustler. Coalition
should be very tough (I assume it's the same owner and crew as the
original Coalition). But many of the tougher A boats aren't racing
yet. The Lambert will probably be your first race with the full
complement of A-boats (including Bodacious, which I'll be on).
We'll be at the JFK, in B fleet, on Wags. If you're gonna be at the
skipper's meeting tonight, look for a fat, bearded guy wearing a
red/orange/yellow Wags crew shirt ... that's me.
RE. Jud Smith
We had an opportunity to race frequently against Jud last season.
Seems he split his time between Overtaker and Io. We had many close
races against Io. Without exception, when Jud was on board they beat
us. When he wasn't, we beat them. Draw your own conclusions.
Incidentally, when Jud was on Io he did the steering ... and Stuart Neff
(Io's owner) is no slouch when it comes to racing sailboats.
That said, there were times last season when we beat boats that were
loaded with "rock stars" ... so don't assume they win automatically.
Incidentally, it felt great when it happened ... ;^)
RE .333
Dave, isn't it true that you guys have recruited Marco for the season,
or am I just hearing more sailor's stories. If so (and having raced
with the man), good luck trying to make your own decisions while he's
aboard. No knock on Marco, mind you. He really does know what he's
talking about. But he makes no attempt to try to understand the way
YOU do things, or factor in the abilities of the crew when he calls
tactics. But he WILL help you make your boat go fast.
RE .334
Alan, need I try again to suggest that if you wanted to race and did
so in cruising class you'd probably be competitive. I realize you
were just kidding, but I'm serious. You're never going to be able to
compete against the A-fleet boats unless you own an A-fleet boat. But
the cruising class boats (with one notable exception who really
shouldn't be racing in cruising class) is made up of non-racing boats.
I've known people to go out in "Clorox bottles" double-handed and do well
in this class.
In any event, it was wonderful to be out there again last night. Just
feeling the waves beneath the boat and the tension on the sheet is
enough to put my mind in a real good place. Looking forward to another
eventful season.
... Bob
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845.338 | Wags=J-36? I sold her. | CIVIC::BUCHANAN | | Fri May 25 1990 10:46 | 10 |
| Re. .337
I was a broker at Can Am Sailcraft when Richard Wagner bought Wags from
us (I
assume this is the same J-36?) He sold it to a partnership of four or
five co-owners who put a well disciplined program together. Bob, were
you part of this program? Are these the current owners?
I loved the J-36, by the way. It was fast, but only when sailed
correctly.
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845.339 | Here's the story | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Fri May 25 1990 11:53 | 28 |
| Bob, as I stated earlier, we did contract with Marco for advice.
Primarily for his vast experience sailing fractional rigs. We just
couldn't get the hang of it last year and realize we need a hand. We
are going sailing with him this weekend as a training sail.
Two points:
First, we told him we are not in the market for new sails until we
learn how fast we can make this thing go with the current sails. We
hired him as a consultant. As such, we expect to pick up pointers that
we can apply on the race course. Our crew is not a bunch of dummies
and will take what ever we learn and apply it well.
Second, we do not race with sailmakers onboard for precisely the reason
you stated. They are not interested in the way we do things. They are
only interested in the immediate results of that race. I have worked
way too hard to bring my crew together to let them get peeved and lose
interest. The crew will be there week after week, not so the
sailmaker. Every rule has its exceptions. we have raced with
sailmakers and without exception have been sorry we did.
We worked very hard with Tim Woodhouse of Hood to get Fat Tuesday to go
fast and were very satisfied with the results. Tim admits he is not
the guy to talk to about trimming out a frac, so we went to a guy who
is. We were very impressed with the work he did with Wags. Figured if
guys like Bailey could benefit, so could we. ;^)
Dave
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845.340 | Sailing Notes was really the key factor ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Fri May 25 1990 12:11 | 47 |
| RE .338
Doesn't sound familiar. It's probably the same boat, but I think
you're confusing our situation with somebody else. Dick Wagner
bought the boat in 1981, a year before I started sailing with him.
He is and always has been the sole owner.
That first season, Skip White put together a crew of rock stars and won
everything from Edgartown to the best overall A-fleet boat in M'head.
After that, things declined a little more each season, to the point
where in 1986 we were DFL in just about every race we entered.
In 1987, I became the "crew boss" and started recruiting crew thru
this Notes file and other sources attempting to put together a more
competitive program. In 1988 I got the chance to race with some real
winners, again thru this Notes file (Fat Tuesday and Bodacious). I
paid a lot of attention to how they managed to be so competive, and
took many ideas and techniques back to Wags with me. That same year
we recruited Susan Bradley (a DEC employee with a lot of racing
experience) and she showed us a lot about how to successfully campaign
a boat. Last season, with the return of all the regulars, we had our
most successful season since 1981 ... we finished first in nearly half
of our races for the season and in the top three for about 80% of them.
Quite a turnaround in two years. Needless to say, I'm very proud of
what we did and how we did it.
The most satisfying thing about Wags' program is that all our crew are
"home-grown" ... we don't need no steenking rock stars. Some of our
regulars had never raced a boat prior to coming aboard Wags. As racing
boats go we're pretty laid back, putting an emphasis on enjoyment of
the sport and the consumption of food and beverage ... ;^)
This season, I've gone on to a different boat (for most races), partly
to give some of the other regulars a shot at more positions of
responsibility, and partly because after 7 seasons, I've pretty much
settled into the role of campaign organizer and I'd really rather focus
this season on improving my own sailing skills.
That's just about everything you didn't want to know about one of your
potential competitors if you're doing any of the overnight races (when
Wags gets to be an A-fleet boat again). If you did indeed sell her,
and want to see how much she's changed since '81, drop me a mail
message. We welcome anyone on board for Thursday night races, and
guest crew are always welcome during any of the week-end PHRF races.
... Bob
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845.341 | I don't think he helped us, really ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Fri May 25 1990 12:18 | 15 |
| RE .339
Dave, just to clarify. Marco did one race with us last season, and
perhaps did help us improve our standing for that race. But for the
most part, he was a distraction to the crew because he used
terminology we didn't understand, and was rather condescending when
we asked questions. He was very critical of the way we did certain
things, so we did it his way for that race, and then went back to our
way for the rest of the season, which worked quite well.
As I said, no knock on the guy. But I think that once you pick his
brain for a race or two, your crew can probably do better on it's own.
... Bob
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845.342 | New kid wants to watch! | MARINR::DARROW | The wind is music to my ears | Fri May 25 1990 15:25 | 16 |
| What racing is scheduled for Marblehead/Beverly waters this weekend?
Where and When. What VHF chan is use for race comm?
WINDSONG is now on her mooring and based on the current weather forcast
we hope to be able to spend at least Saturday on the water. What areas
would be best to safely observe the racing from and maybe identify some
of the DEC boats/people. WINDSONG is and ODay 222 with a slightly too
tall blue dodger. Please give us a shout or wave and if I have things
reasonably under control, I will enthusiastically wave back.
One othe request. We are looking for someone with crusing/racing
experience to sail with us and help check out the boat/crew. (This
weekend will begin our shake down.) (or maybe that should be shake up!)
Thanks, Fred 223-3935 617-862-1410
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845.343 | R.E. 340 + Rock Stars | POBOX::DBERRY | | Fri May 25 1990 15:27 | 22 |
| I usually don't like to editorialize, but the complaints about rock
stars and pros on board bothered me a lot. I raced a lot out of the
Anapolis Yacht Club, and that was a very competative group. I found
that by racing against the so called rock stars, that our own level of
performance and ability increased dramatically. You will only be good
enough to beat the competition available to you. I also found that
after the races that these rock stars would be out for a couple of
brews in the same places everyone else went, and that tghey were very
free with information and expertise, and that everyone benefited and
went faster. The result was that in the big races we MURDERED the
other yacht clubs around. Take the stiff competition as the advantage
it is and learn to go faster.
R.E. 340
You referenced Dick Wagner. Is this the same Dick who has been working
in the new corporate ventures group and has recently been working with
the Landover DCC? If so I know and have worked with him. Just didn't
know he was a sailer.
Dave Berry
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845.344 | Rock stars and the JFK regatta ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Tue May 29 1990 09:57 | 95 |
| RE .343
Nope, different Dick Wagner. Your points are valid. My only complaint
about "rock stars" is when they come aboard the boat you race on and
assume they automatically know everything about how to make your boat
win races. Sometimes it works to your advantage, because these guys
are very experienced and can usually point out a thing or two that you
can use. But there's another side to that coin, and that's the
distraction they cause with a crew that may be a little resentful of
the attitude.
On to another subject. The JFK regatta was this past week-end. The
weather turned out to be a lot nicer than anticipated, making for a
fine regatta. I was racing on Wags, in B fleet. Our fleet had 17
boats in it, and except for Annapurna, all of last year's top boats
were there.
Saturday's race was a modified Gold Cup course, with a long run and
short reach rather than two reaching legs ... about 22 miles. Wags got
off to a good start, but after that this day turned into the kind you
have bad dreams about. At the start we were just to leeward of Io and
Madrigal, the two J/33's. They both had speed on us and quickly
climbed into our air, so we tacked away and headed for the right side
of the course. Most of B fleet followed suit, but Io and Madrigal kept
going left. This turned out very much to their advantage, as by the
time we got to the first mark they were well into A fleet and pulling a
horizon job on the rest of B fleet. We were the third boat around the
mark, about a half-mile behind the leader. Most of the rest of the
race was a battle for 3rd thru 6th between us, Katabatic, Dark Horse,
and Reggae. The rest of the fleet was well behind the four of us, and
basically none of them were going to make their time on any of us.
We displayed our skills at producing a beautiful hourglass shape with
the chute as we rounded the mark, but we managed to recover after a few
seconds of pandemonium and get it flying OK before we got passed by
anybody. The downwind legs were fun ... we had some close order drills
with our competition and the boat handling was really coming together.
We lost out to Sheerness, who had taken a flyer, but maintained our
lead on the other three. Douse the chute, round the mark, and head
back upwind. The wind's still building. Io and Madrigal are way off in
the distance passing A-fleet boats. We're in a dogfight with
Katabatic, who has better speed than we do but isn't pointing as well.
Back at the windward mark, and we're third boat but Dark Horse is too
close behind. Pop the chute, head for the finish line. AND THEN THE
WIND DIED ...
We fell into a gigundo hole as we watched the thunderheads building
over Boston. We watched as spinnakers in A-fleet, and the B-fleet
leaders, fell slack and draped over the bow. Turned around and noticed
that all those boats behind us were still moving ... and the smart ones
were going waaaaaaaaayyy right, steering clear of the hole. Red Baron
came from miles behind to cross first and win the race by taking a
great circle route to the finish line.
Finally the wind starts to fill in ... now it's a beat to the finish
line about a 1/2 mile away. Up with the light #1. The wind's really
building ... get the heavy #1 up here, no check that ... the #3. We're
only 100 yards from the finish line. Forget the sail change, not
enough time. The wind's up to 30. Reach off for the pin. The skipper's
got $$ signs in his eyes as we're spilling the air outta his nice new
kevlar sail to keep it from blowing up. We finished 8th ... then came
the bad news. We had cut inside a mark out by Grave's light that was
foul water. D-S-Q. Oh well ... shifts happen.
Sunday was much better. We got off to a good start, established a lead
on Io and Madrigal, and sailed away with the race. The course was a
quadrilateral, about 19 miles. With the wind shifts it turned out to
be a beat, run, reach, beat.
Mother nature played less of a role on Sunday, as the wind shifted
steadily all day. The first leg saw us, Io, and Madrigal take the left
side; Katabatic head up the middle; and Dark Horse take the right side.
At the windward mark we were all right there together, with us holding
about two or three boatlength lead on Katabatic and the others
basically stern-to-bow around the mark. We increased our lead on each
successive leg on the others and passed several A-fleet boats on the
way to the finish line. We took the gun and won the race.
A coupla comments about the regatta. It really seems to offer less in
terms of amenities, awards, and hospitality each successive season.
The competition is fine, and this season I think the race committee did
OK (better than in past seasons at least). But it doesn't measure up
to some of the Salem Bay events, or the NOOD regatta, when it comes to
organization.
Look out for Mike Frigard's new toy ... he showed up Saturday night
with his new J/44, Loose Goose VII. It'll be the new scratch boat in
the Marblehead A-fleet, with a rating of 24.
Yaquina looked sharp out there ... Claddagh didn't. See y'all this
week-end for the Manchester tune-up races on Saturday and the BYC
Spring race on Sunday.
... Bob
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845.345 | AYC? | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue May 29 1990 10:43 | 16 |
| Re: .343
You raced out of Annapolis YC? You know the boat "Restitution"? It
used to be "Uptown Girl" when Jim Scott owned it. That's now our boat,
"Wildside". Is "Immigrant" still racing down there?
As for professionals on racing in local events, you are right, the
higher level of competition does have the effect of raising everybody's
skill level. My beef is that when owners do elect to use pro's, they
crew not get sensitive when they are reminded that the success of the
boat may not be attributable directly the crew's performance.
I, personally, cannot see the gratification other owners get from
buying boats only to have paid strangers race them.
Dave
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845.346 | You'll sail alright if north of Graves light. | CIVIC::BUCHANAN | | Tue May 29 1990 13:53 | 48 |
| RE: .344
Bob has done a good job of describing the conditions for the JFK
regatta. I raced both days on Taylor Ann, a modified Frers 41 owned by
Tommy McManus out of Marblehead. Normally I race on Yaquina but Taylor
Ann needed a navigator, so I volunteered. I can't complain since we
took second in Class A while Yaquina took third.
The competition in class A was pretty good and there were some
interesting strategic aspects of the race on Saturday. Like Wags,
Taylor Ann elected to go right on the first beat. Prior to the start
the wind seemed to be shifting right and the hot locals, specifically
Jack Slattery on Wired, seemed to go for the right side of the Graves.
Big mistake! Left was faster due to both wind shifts and favorable
current. The latter I should have forseen, mea culpa.
We beat our brains out to regain lost ground and "married" the left
side of the course which helped considerably. We were 250 yards from
the finish and in position to pass Yaquina when the wind died. Yaquina
still had some air and managed to squeak out a second place finish to
our third. Yaquina is faster than Taylor Ann on the wind but off I
think Taylor Ann is faster.
Sunday was BEAUTIFUL!! We nailed the start perfectly and this turned
out to be a key part of the race since the fastest A class boats ended
up sailing all over the course to find fresh puffs. Current was a big
factor especially on the reach to the leeward mark. We managed to sail
high with good through-the-water boat speed and let the current push us
down to the mark. Yaquina went left on this reach with the expectation
that she would be able to use the more direct current vector to help
her at the end of the beat. Unfortunately, this also meant that she
would be sailing very low and as the wind moderated she was slow. They
must have had a variety of other problems as well since they crossed
the finish eighth to our third. The upshot of this was that Bandito
took first, Taylor Ann took second and Yaquina took third in class A.
It really pays to go north out by the Graves. By the way, the DSQ
that Wags got was due to their going between Graves light and the buoy
north of the Graves. The race instructions mention this restricted
zone but it is buried in the notes describing Boston inner harbor YRUMB
marks. The JFK used Mass Bay YRUMB marks which do not describe this
restricted zone! Additionally, the starting line for Sunday was
between the aforementioned buoy and the committee boat. The race thus
began in the restricted zone. The race committee could have done a
better job here.
All-in-all, a great couple of days for yachting!
Richard
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845.347 | Crushed, Killed, Destroyed | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Tue May 29 1990 14:16 | 30 |
| We raced the J/24 in the Mem. Day regatta in Newport over the weekend.
We were blown out of the water. We couldn't even compete.
There were 50 boats on the line but we had good starts. But shortly
thereafter, rather than punching out of the fleet, we were swallowed.
After a clearing tack, the fleet would lift up and gas us again. The
average boat in Newport would destroy my local fleet in Tiverton,
thanks to the rock stars and lots of crisp new sails.
Goeff Moore from Doyle sails has helped us put the boat in the water
for the last two seasons (the Ft. Adams hoist is his turf). He finally
got around to it this weekend. It went something like "I hate to say
this but ... you're sails look really bad".
While talking with Goeff before the start, we were buzzed by Mr. Shore
sails - Ken Read. The next morning we were the first ones to the course
and started warming up. Out of nowhere comes ..... you guessed it ....
Ken Read. He's suddenly full of helpful hints.
We laughed about the whole thing.
Because of the money, we've focused on working with our old sails. But
after this weekend there's no denying - we're even slower than last
year.
All those who feel moved by this, please send cash donations to the
"J/24 #1365 Speed Restoration Fund". No checks, please.
Paul
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845.348 | BYC Spring race, June 3 ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Mon Jun 04 1990 09:34 | 75 |
| What a beautiful week-end. Spent both days out on Bodacious. Saturday
was for a couple of "tune-up" races over in Manchester. Two short,
gold-cup courses. Not much to talk about except that not many boats
showed up (these races didn't count for anything) and the weather was
really nice.
Sunday was the BYC Spring race ... our first "Marblehead" race of the
season. Seven boats showed up in A-fleet. It was a perfect day for a
race, with sunshine, strong breeze, and only moderate seas. The race
committee used portables to set an olympic course of about 13.5 miles.
The start was interesting, to say the least. All I could see was Arbella
(a Taylor 40), Jazz (an Express 37), and concerned faces on the committee
boat (a floating Winnebago), as there was *very* little space separating
the four vessels. The end result was that after a lot of hollering and
suggestions between skippers, Jon got the spot he wanted and the other
two didn't. Arbella was forced to tack away and Jazz was buried on the
starting line. On the other side of us, both Sherherazade and Claddagh
were over early and had to go back. This put us and Wildside into lead
positions and basically defined the complexion of the race.
The first leg was us and Wildside sailing basically side-by-side, with
us to weather. We rounded the weather mark just in front of them, with
the rest of the fleet a couple of minutes or more behind us. Claddagh
and Sherherazade had already caught up to the slowest A-boats, and were
coming on strong. Around the mark, pop the chute, and trim for a reach.
In this wind it's a sleigh ride, averaging better then 8 knots and
exceeding 11 kts. at times surfing down the waves.
We rounded the gybe mark just in front of Wildside. Claddagh had passed
everybody else and was now in 3rd position around the mark. Sherherazade
was 4th around, and the remaining three were falling further back.
Now we were headed back to the starting mark. Wildside took the high
road and we took the low road, and they got to Tinker's before us.
We completed the triangle about a boatlength or two behind them, but
had managed to maintain our lead on Claddagh. Douse the chute, round
the mark, and head back upwind.
Most of the next leg consisted of us trying to tack away from Wildside
and them tacking to prevent us from doing so ... basically the reverse
of the first leg. Near the end of the leg we discovered a foot-long rip
in the leach of the jib ... (rut roh). We decided we were too close to
the mark for a sail change, so Jon opted to overstand the mark so we
could reach after the next tack and hope the sail held up till we could
hoist the chute and get it down. It did, but we lost ground to Wildside
in the process ... :^(
By the time we got the chute up and settled down, Wildside was nearly a
minute in front of us and Claddagh was only a few boatlengths behind.
We managed to make some of it back on the downwind leg back to Tinker's.
But we had some trouble hoisting the jib at the mark rounding and were
forced to go bare-headed for about a half-minute. Wildside had no
problem putting more distance between us. Claddagh and Sherherazade were
only a couple of boatlengths behind by the time we got settled in. We
had a good final leg, tacking on top of Claddagh and forcing her to
finally tack away into a header to get out of our gas. It looked like
we might even be making up our time on Wildside near the end of the
leg, but Sherherazade then forced us to take an extra tack and was all
she wrote.
Wildside took the gun and the race. We and Sherherazade finished
within a second of each other, about a minute and a half behind
Wildside. Claddagh finished about two minutes behind us. The rest of
the fleet was pretty far back. It was an exciting race.
Dave, you guys really had Wildside moving well. Hope that's a sign of
things to come for ya. But it's lucky for both of us that Claddagh and
Sherherazade gave us a head start, 'cause the way they were moving if
they'd had a clean start we woulda been battling it out for 3rd and
4th place yesterday. Between the four of us, Yaquina, Coalition, and
Loose Goose VII, A-fleet is gonna be very exciting this year.
... Bob
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845.349 | I'd take wind like that all year | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 04 1990 10:25 | 34 |
| Good day on Sunday. While it's true Claddagh and Scherherazade did
start early, the impact was very different on the two boats. Claddagh
realized immediately, jibed and recrossed within 30 seconds. They then
went to the right and didn't suffer all that much from the early start.
Scherezade, on the other hand, went a long while up the weather leg
before turning back. Their comeback was scary. They took third place
behind us and Bodacious.
We were suffering from not enough bodies. We needed two more people to
keep the boat flatter. This really showed in the tacks. On the last
leg upwind we tacked to cover every time Bo did and this was costing us
because we couldn't come back to target speed as quickly as they were.
So we finally said the heck with it and went on one long tack
maintaining target speed to the layline to the finish. That is where
we made back up our time on Bo. Two tacks prior to that we had them
only 38 seconds behind. Not enough to cover.
Wish we had some of the wind we got on the sail back to the harbor! We
were surfing past Scherherezade with just our main up!
My opinion is that Scherherazade could have come even further if they
had dropped to a smaller headsail. They had their heavy #1 up while we
had our #3. They were flogging their main the whole way.
Jazz had a tough day. They broached and when they recovered they tore
the head out of their chute! Then they destroyed their medium #1 (why
it was up in the first place, I don't know). Then they ripped their
heavy #1. Then at the finish (finally!) their steering chain broke and
they had to drop out of the race! Days like that make you want to buy
a big ol' power boat, develope a pot belly, and hang out at the marina.
All in all, we had a blast.
Dave
|
845.350 | Bermuda race shakedown | CIVIC::BUCHANAN | | Mon Jun 04 1990 13:43 | 24 |
| Sounds like some interesting racing over the last weekend.
Yaquina's owner opted to do some cruising and tuning on Saturday. We
sailed down to Nahant where we met up with the Beneteau 42 Halcyon. I
will be doing the Bermuda race on Halcyon and this was my first chance
to sail aboard her (after a leap between the two).
Halcyon has a new Doyle mainsail which leaves something to be desired.
Real flat. Draft 40%-45% aft in 18 kts apparent. Leech line cleat
doesn't and can't be reached. The foot slits for the leech reefing
lines do not line up with the reefing cringles. Mixture of metal and
plastic sail slides only some of which fit the mast luff groove. If
God is in the details he doesn't work at Doyle.
The owner of Halcyon is an experienced offshore sailor (and DEC
consultant in semiconductor physics) who has done the Bermuda race
three times already. He won the Bermuda one-two last time around and I
am looking forward to a fast passage. There is nothing like experience
and thoroughness to prepare for offshore work. We took Halcyon out on
Sunday in the Boston harbor area. Gusts to 43 kts. Nice shakedown.
Are any readers of this file doing the Bermuda race? Any suggestions?
Richard
|
845.351 | Lambert Cup race report ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Mon Jun 11 1990 09:36 | 58 |
| Yesterday was the Lambert Cup, sponsored by the Eastern YC. The winds were
light to moderate, from the NE. And visibility was generally poor due to
fog and mist. I was sailing on Bodacious, in A-fleet, which consisted of 10
boats for this race.
The course was a skewed triangle, starting at Tinker's Gong. The first leg
was a beat to Marblehead Bell, then a reach to Boston Harbor Entrance Whistle
(the Monster Buoy), a run to 3-1/2 Fathom Bell, and a beat back to Tinker's.
Total course length was about 20 miles.
We got off to a pretty good start, and were the 2nd boat around the 1st mark
behind Coalition. However, we were quickly passed by Jazz, Yaquina, and
Wildside, who were all reaching up for clear air and speed. It turned out
to be the correct thing to do, as the wind shifted right during the leg.
Coalition was making serious time on everybody during this leg, or so it
appeared. With the limited visibility it was difficult to tell relative
positions as boats disappeared into the mist. When the fleet came back
together as we were approaching the mark, it was obvious that the boats who
had gone left had made out on those of us who had stayed near the rhumb line.
Around the mark it was Coalition, Jazz, Wildside, Yaquina, Loose Goose VII,
Bodacious, Claddagh, Cara, Smoke, and Lightning.
For the most part, those positions were maintained for the run. Jazz passed
Coalition and was the first boat around the mark. Claddagh passed us, but
we managed to take it back just before we got to the mark.
As we turned back upwind, most of the fleet went right. We stayed left,
looking for favorable current to help us improve our position. It was
impossible to tell whether or not we were being successful, as the mist was
so thick that at times we could not even see Claddagh, who was hanging off
our stern by about 80-100 yards. But when the fleet came back together
about 2/3 of the way up the leg, we had passed Jazz and Yaquina, and were
much closer to Coalition and the Goose. Things were looking pretty good,
except ... WHERE WAS WILDSIDE ???
We had a tactical decision to make ... do we stick with Coalition since we
were making our time on her, or do we cover Claddagh and prevent them from
making a run on us? We decided on the latter ... which turned out to be a
bad decision. As the mist decreased, we finally spotted Wildside, waaaayy
out in front of everybody. Whatever they had done turned out to be the
correct thing to do. They took the gun, just in front of the Goose (who
owed them 15 minutes for this race). Goose finished a minute or so behind
Wildside, with Coalition a couple of minutes behind Goose, and us a couple
of minutes behind Coalition. Then came Yaquina, Jazz, and Claddagh ...
with the remaining three boats well back. Wildside easily won the race,
with Coalition taking 2nd on corrected time and us taking 3rd.
In B-fleet, Wags took another 1st. They had spent the entire race duking
it out with Io and Dark Horse. But on the final leg they followed the same
strategy we did and left the others behind.
Congrats again Dave (for the 2nd time in as many weeks). This was a very
impressive win. You guys obviously have figured out how to make this boat
go fast. Gonna be tough to beat.
... Bob
|
845.352 | Two points make a line | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 11 1990 11:12 | 63 |
| Yesterday was a watershed race for us. We had done a lot of work on
the boat and the crew over the winter. We tuned the rig differently,
spent serious time on our bottom finish, moved winches and changed the
deck layout to make it simpler and read as much as we could about
making a frac go fast. Last week we had heavy air and since we always
went well in that stuff it didn't tell us if anything was really
improved. Well, our doubts are gone now.
We had an interesting start. After two postponements, we were in the
starting sequence and just completing the first five minutes when it
looked to me like the rest of our fleet was lining up for a start. I
asked our nav if he was SURE we were in a ten minute sequence. Yeah,
no problem he says. Wrong. We end up with a perfect leeward end start
all to ourselves ;^(. Rounded the windward mark in eighth place out of
ten starters. We were berating our nav for serious brain fade.
Long broad reach for the monster bouy off Boston (7 miles or so). We
had to roll over the Swan 57, Cara right away or let her bury us, so we
went high. The loran was telling us our course over the ground was not
too high of rumb, so the current was being kind to us. We rounded
third, having passed five boats by going high. We gained on Coalition
and Jazz over the next leg, but remained in third place at the start of
the last windward leg.
Then the fun started. We noticed the general phasing of the wind going
right, so we tacked away from Jazz and Coalition onto port. Things are
okay until our main trimmer says "Hey, tighten up the check stay, it's
come loose". Not quite. The shackle pin had fallen out. A mad
scramble around the boat to find another shackle. Took one off the
lower lifeline, tacked back onto starboard so we could fix the
checkstay. Jazz and Coaliton are coming out to us now and it is
obvious we have passed Jazz and are very near Coalition. Life is
pretty good.
When they reach us Coaliton tacks back parallel to us while Jazz
continues going to the right. Now what do we do? We flip a coin and
cover Jazz, tacking back onto port. Now the wind becomes our enemy.
We want to go back onto starboard, but when we do the wind has gone
left again and we are on a starboard header, pointing at Coalition's
stern FAR AWAY. The tactition (me) is broadcasting Death Radio. Life
stinks.
Okay, Jazz might be willing to live with this, but we are going back to
the lifted tack (port) and just play the shifts. The heck with the
fleet way off to our left. Well the wind begins to go right again, we
tack back to starboard and are almost on the lay line to the finish.
Wow! Loose Goose (J44) has passed Coalition and is in front.
Except...we're going to cross them! We're in front. We don't tell the
rail potatoes yet so as not to ruin the karma.
Then someone says "what was that? Lobster pot?" The boat feels like
it's sailing thru molasses. Speed is dropping like a stone. 200 yards
behind us we're dragging a bouy marking one end of a fishing net. Damn!
Can't see the other end of it. Never did. Everybody to the leeward
side and heel the boat WAY over. Two or three tries and we're free!
Thank you, God.
We let the crew know the situation and life is good again all the way
to the finish. There won't be many more like it, though. Mike is
going to learn how to get that J44 going and he'll own line honors all
summer. But for now we'll take it.
Dave
|
845.353 | Class A results | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 11 1990 17:15 | 2 |
| BTW, results for class A for June 10 were: Wildside 1st, Coalition 2nd,
and Bodacious 3rd.
|
845.354 | re .345 | POBOX::DBERRY | | Mon Jun 11 1990 18:49 | 7 |
| re .345
I certainly do remember restitution. I didn't know those folks, but
sometimes (like when they were near and there was no wind) it used to
make for an interesting topic of discussion as to how they got that
name. Sorry, I don't remember the other boat. I haven't raced out
there since the summer of 1988.
|
845.355 | Class B Results?? | LANDO::STONE | | Tue Jun 12 1990 12:45 | 4 |
| re: .353
What were the results for Class B? (Don't leave the little guys out!)
Thanks
Joe
|
845.356 | Class B | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Jun 12 1990 13:26 | 3 |
| Class B : Wags was first, Io second, Dark Horse third.
Dave
|
845.357 | can you say "redundant" ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Tue Jun 12 1990 14:49 | 6 |
| RE .353, .355, .356
Gee guys ... I did mention all that in reply .351
... Bob
|
845.358 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Tue Jun 12 1990 17:27 | 3 |
| Yes, Bob, but did you say it twice?
;)
|
845.359 | merely Details... | MILKWY::WAGNER | | Wed Jun 13 1990 14:02 | 18 |
|
'scuse me guys...
This stuff makes great reading (beats all hell outa newspapers),
but, being the detail-head that I am, could I ask for more keyboard-
pounding? F'r'instance, make of boat, rating, new sails, deck and
hardware mods would be interesting. I know Brian's latest is sposta be
pretty much a clone, but IS IT really? Inquiring racers wanna know.
PS our first really-race is the Chapman. Still gotta do chafe patches
on the #1, as well as a zillion other things.... What's everybody
think the weather's gonna do? Can't be worse than last year.... can
it?
Good luck all; see u Friday at 5.
Scott.
|
845.360 | see ya in Scituate ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Wed Jun 13 1990 14:44 | 16 |
| I'll be at the Chapman on Wags. Weather's supposed to be beauteamous.
We're gonna be a little short on crew, so I'm hoping it don't blow like
last year. On the other hand, I also hope it doesn't turn into a
drifter like the year before last.
Then back to M'head for Sunday's Summerset race on Bodacious. Could be
a looonng week-end.
Scott, what boats do you want all those "details" on. It could make my
reports really long if I filled in all that. On the other hand, if you
think it would help, I could post a "scratch" sheet of the boats most
discussed (M'head, A and B fleets), with make and rating. Somebody
else would have to fill in the C, D, and/or cruising fleets.
... Bob
|
845.361 | What no Bloodies on Sunday?? | MILKWY::WAGNER | | Thu Jun 14 1990 14:10 | 15 |
|
The Scratch Sheet sounds kinda neat. Any inside scoop/history would
also be fun.
Dave (?) Ithink you mentioned deck layout changes that helped...
what were the biggest helps? A multipurpose (read: nonflush deck)
boat kinda limits mods, but maybe you & others have gotten around
such things.
So thanks and start praying for wind (but no storms) tomorrow
night! I'm gonna need the delivery time to get everything fixed.
Banzai.
Scott.
|
845.362 | J-Boats in Boston this month? | NETMAN::CARTER | | Fri Jun 15 1990 13:56 | 15 |
| I picked up a brochure which talks about the Boston Harborfest
activities "Boston's July 4th Celebration."
This year the activities run from June 29 through July 4. One item
would seem to be of interest, if accurate.
The listing for Saturday June 30 from 10:00 to 16:00 is "J Class Sloop
Match race 1930's classic yachts, Endeavor and Shamrock, racing in
Massachusetts Bay"
No other details listed, but there is an information number,
617-227-1528.
djc
|
845.363 | Tiverton Summer Series | MFGMEM::TRAINOR | Dinghy Thingies | Fri Jun 15 1990 17:30 | 63 |
| Last evening I raced with Paul Keenan on his J24, Shockwave. This race was
the first of the summer series off of Tiverton R.I. We found our go fast
gear shift with an inexpensive 3 year old Mylar genoa. Up until last night
we have been racing with a 6 year old Dacron jib. Mylar is now
accepted and used by most of the J24 fleet.(I am not trying
to sell sails, so I won't use the sailmaker's names)
The course was a Starboard triangle with an added beat to windward and a
downwind finish.
Until last night we had poor acceleration, couldn't point with the majority
of the fleet, and relied heavily on tactics, wind shifts, and local
knowledge, which usually gave us middle of the fleet honors, except in the
big events. Last night, that almost paid off as we added the ponting
ability and acceleration of the newwer, flatter and fuller sail.
This fleet uses the "rabbit start," in which one boat is designated the
rabbit and drops a mark one minute from the designated staring channel bouy
while sailing a close hauled course on port tack. He then tacks over,
rounds the channel bouy and retraces his course. The rest of the boats
have to then start between his stern and the channel bouy before he passes
the one minute mark.
We had a great start, being the last boat to windward to start, we sat on
the whole fleet, actually blowing past boats that were our competition last
week. After our first tack only the boat that was the rabbit was in front
of us. During this whole beat the only shift was maybe 5 degrees to the
left. We were forced to dip him after the next tack, but he sailed away a
little before his next tack to cover. As we tacked over to starboard,
he tacked ahead and slightly to leeward of us, but we had to go left to
make the mark. He proceeded to pinch up until he started to gas us and
forced us to tack away before the rumb line. He tacked over to port right
at the rumb line, but we had to make an additional tack and this gave him
about a boat length lead at the windward mark.
The spinnaker reaches went by without any significant events, and we
rounded the leeward mark with the leader increasing his lead to about 2 to
3 boat lengths. We did a pretty poor rounding letting the third place boat
point up inside of us. The third place boat tacked away, and we were being
gassed by the first place boat. The ideal tactic though was to maintain
the course to be the farthest to the left, since the wind had started
oscillating and was now at its farthest to the right. However, we were
getting killed by the leader, so we tacked away.
The third place boat then tacked and crossed behind us, about 3 to 4
boat lengths back and then tacked halfway between the leader and us. The
wind shifted left about 2 to 3 degrees every 5 minutes, so to tack left
would put us into a header. So, we held our course, riding the lifts.
About midway into the beat the leach line on the jib let loose and refused
to cleat again. At that point the boat sounded like a helicopter and lost
almost all of the power it had. The second place boat pulled away and now
the fourth place boat started to close.
The first place boat rounded the windward mark about 25 boat lengths ahead,
and the second place boat was about 5 ahead. The fourth place boat was only
one to two behind us as we got the jib down and the spinnaker up, but he
had trouble getting his spinnaker to fill, so we pulled ahead. We finished
third after another insignificant down wind leg.
All in all, it was interesting to see what a difference a sail can make.
Charlie
|
845.364 | YRUMB A-Class and B-Class Scratch Sheet | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Mon Jun 18 1990 10:26 | 68 |
| The following is a list of the A-Class and B-Class boats that
generally compete in the Greater Salem Bay races. Those boats
marked with an asterisk generally compete in the south shore area,
and usually only show up in the Salem Bay area to compete in the
races which count as YRUMB qualifiers (Corinthian 200, PHRF New
Englands, Jubilee Fall Series, and Manchester Fall Series).
A-CLASS FLEET
-------------
BOAT NAME BOAT TYPE RATING HOME PORT
--------- --------- ------ ---------
LOOSE GOOSE VII J/44 24 MARBLEHEAD
CARA SWAN 57 41 MARBLEHEAD
*FULL TILT BOOGIE CUSTOM 40 63 ????
TAYLOR ANNE FRERS 41 66 MARBLEHEAD
YAQUINA C&C 37R 66 MARBLEHEAD
COALITION TAYLOR 40 66 MARBLEHEAD
SHERHERAZADE TAYLOR 40 66 BOSTON
ARBELLA TAYLOR 40 69 SALEM
*GAMBLER FRERS 41 69 BOSTON
JAZZ EXPRESS 37 69 MARBLEHEAD
WILDSIDE FARR 40 69 MARBLEHEAD
*WIRED II FRERS 40 69 BOSTON
*ABRACADABRA J/35 72 ????
BODACIOUS J/35 72 SALEM
*OUTRAGEOUS J/35 72 ????
WHIPLASH J/35 72 BEVERLY
*CENTURION FRERS 41 72 HINGHAM
LIGHTNING FRERS 41 72 SALEM
*DRAGON FLY EXPRESS 37 72 ????
SMOKE SOVEREL 39 72 MARBLEHEAD
*ARIGATO C&C 41 CB 75 SCITUATE
AURORA C&C 43-2 75 MANCHESTER
CLADDAGH CUSTOM 41 75 MARBLEHEAD
B-CLASS FLEET
-------------
BOAT NAME BOAT TYPE RATING HOME PORT
--------- --------- ------ ---------
*LADYLOVE ISLANDER 40 81 ????
IO J/33 84 MARBLEHEAD
MADRIGAL J/33 84 SCITUATE
WAGS J/36 84 BEVERLY
BODICEA SOVEREL 33 84 MARBLEHEAD
KATABATIC SOVEREL 33 84 MARBLEHEAD
ALIBI NA 40 90 MANCHESTER
DARK HORSE FRERS 36 90 MARBLEHEAD
*QUICKDRAW FRERS 36 90 ????
*ALLEGRA CS 40 93 ????
*DARK STAR EVELYN 32 96 SCITUATE
*RED BARON EXPRESS 34 96 SCITUATE
*SHEERNESS F-3 96 ????
BAD COMPANY PEARSON 37 99 SALEM
CAMPBELL'S SLOOP JENNEAU 39 105 BEVERLY
WINDSLIPPER V JENNEAU 39 105 MANCHESTER
*AEROPHILIA FRERS 33 108 ????
*ECLIPSE FRERS 33 108 ????
REGGAE FRERS 33 108 MANCHESTER
*RIGAMAROLE FRERS 33 108 ????
VAPOR TRAIL FRERS 33 108 BEVERLY
INFINITY C&C 35 114 BEVERLY
|
845.365 | Bob, more data! | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 18 1990 10:51 | 29 |
| Bob, no info on the Chapman Bowl? C'mon! Overnights are fun! ;^)
The Corinthian 200 does not count in the Marblehead or Salem Bay series
so we are thinking of doing some golfing that weekend. (Read that as
our crew is threatening mutiny)
The CYC ran a dull but competent race yesterday. Windward/leeward from
Newcombs to some dumping ground bouy off Boston. The day started out
very foggy, but burned off and became a beautiful day. Loose Goose
found some of its upwind speed and was close to saving its time on the
fleet at the windward mark. They still don't get all they could out
the boat sailing downwind, so they actually lost time to us and the
rest of the fleet on that leg. They got the gun, but didn't place well
on corrected time.
Bodacious continues to show great upwind work. They sure are pesky
;^). If they get the kinks worked out of their offwind speed, they
will be the boat to beat. Bo is ALWAYS right there at the windward
mark.
Claddaugh went halfway to the Azores on the upwind leg and then just
pointed that pig right at the mark for the downwind slide. Their
polars are pretty simple; aim toward the mark and put up the blooper.
They corrected out on us by 30 seconds or so. They won, we came in
second, and I'm not sure who got third. Bodacious? Don't know. I
don't have the class B results, but it looked like Dark Horse was
leading with Katabatic right behind.
Dave
|
845.366 | Work before play ... blow-by-blow account later | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Mon Jun 18 1990 10:55 | 11 |
| Don't have the time or results as yet for the Chapman Bowl. "Trip"
report will be forthcoming. Wags placed 7th over the finish line outta
15.
Bo finished 4th yesterday in the Summerset. We did not make our time
on the Goose, but only missed it by a few seconds.
More later ...
... Bob
|
845.367 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Mon Jun 18 1990 11:50 | 10 |
| re: .364
FULL TILT BOOGIE is moored in Newport.
What's behind the rating difference between FULL TILT and WILDSIDE. Are
they one tonners of a different vintage? I imagine they pour a lot of
bucks into FULL TILT.
Paul
|
845.368 | That is wierd | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 18 1990 12:33 | 10 |
| The rating difference between Full Tilt and Wildside is partially
explained by the 3 second per mile difference between ratings in Mass
Bay and Newport. I.e. a J35 is 72 in Mass Bay and 75 in Newport.
The other 3 seconds I don't understand. At last year's PHRF N.E.'s we
rated even with them @ 69. We are the same vintage but different
designers (Nivelt vs. Farr). Maybe they took some lead out and
abandoned the IOR configuration. Don't know.
Dave
|
845.369 | Wake up Dave | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 18 1990 12:34 | 5 |
| Just realized what a bone head I am. The 3 second difference between
us and Newport boats would work the other way and compound the problem,
not explain it. The mystery grows...
Dave
|
845.370 | More Scratch Sheet Stuff | MILKWY::WAGNER | | Mon Jun 18 1990 13:04 | 14 |
|
More re. 364:
Rigamarole's a Scituate boat, fairly active down there.
Some Hingham Bay PHRF boats on your list:
Wired II (HB-PHRF Governor) sails from Hingham YC
Red Baron (ex- Bumpa) " " " "
Dark Star (ex - boat of Ben Hall as in spars) out of Braintree YC
Allegra (new elliptical sufaces this year) out of South Shore YC
Ladylove - sails out of Commuter Boat City (Old Hingham Shipyard)
|
845.371 | A note of thanks | AKOV11::KALINOWSKI | | Mon Jun 18 1990 13:21 | 22 |
|
I am finding this note getting more interesting all time. Not only
can one read of a given race's results, but to the novice Mass. area
racer, one can get an idea of who fast, who to watch out for, and
what type of tactics are used in the course of a race. At the same
time, the noters seem very honest in assessing what they have done
right and what mistakes they made. This is very commendable, and shows
a true desire to sail their boat to it's limit. I bet many of you have met
the last place captain who has an answer for everything, yet does not
understand their own weaknesses and its bearing on their results.
The description of conditions and tactics is like talking to a old salt.
One can learn a great deal from these experiences, if even just to know
what to watch out for. Much like the apre-regatta bench racing without
the bragging ;>) . I hope all you contributors keep up the good work.
thanks
john "trying to improve with every reach"
|
845.372 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Mon Jun 18 1990 13:31 | 14 |
| Correction on class A reulults yesterday:
Bo clipped the Goose by 2 seconds!! Can you
believe that? We'll take the 3rd, but feel bad
for Goose. Well, not too bad.
RE Dave
Pesky upwind? We're working in on it. Sluggish
downwind? We're working on it. Boat to beat?
Wildside is building a pretty good case for herself.
But there are a lot of good boats out there. Gonna
be a great summer. Let's hope for good participation
next week.
|
845.373 | Chapman Bowl report ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Mon Jun 18 1990 15:50 | 136 |
| RE: the scratch sheet
Since I made this up from scratch sheets I have available to me and
from memory, I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the home ports ...
that's why I used the ???? on some. The boat types and ratings are all
guaranteed accurate.
RE Yesterday's race ...
Alright! ;^)
RE Chapman Bowl
Friday evening was the start of the Chapman Bowl overnighter, sponsored
by the Scituate Harbor Yacht Club. The race started at 7 PM, at the
Scituate Harbor Approach Gong.
Prior to the race, we rafted up with Scott Wagner and his new Beneteau
32-5, Adventure. Nice boat Scott, best of luck with it this season.
The race course was approximately 90 miles, sending us 20 miles
southeast, to the bell off of Mary Ann Rocks, then 22 miles northeast
to Stellwagon Bank, then 16 miles northwest to an approach bouy, then
10 miles north to the Eastern Point Whistle, and 22 miles back to
Scituate. At the start of the race, the wind was moderate (7-10 kt)
from the southeast.
There were 15 boats in A-fleet, which was extended to include boats
with a rating up to 96. I was on Wags for this race.
At the start there was some conflict involving both Sherherazade and
Yaquina, resulting in both boats hoisting their protest flag. I do
not know what caused it or what the end result was.
The first leg was a beat. The fleet split almost evenly after the
start, with some boats heading left following the favored tack to the
mark and other boats heading toward shore looking for more wind. We
were in the latter group, although this was not by choice. Coalition
wanted revenge for last year's defeat and came after us right from the
start. They got to windward at the line and sat on us till we tacked
away. They continued out, along with Sherherazade, Yaquina, Claddagh,
and a couple of boats I could not identify.
It soon became apparent that although the boats outside were lifted,
the boats inside had stronger wind. Sherherazade was one of the first
to realize that they got sucked into an unfavorable situation and
tacked back, quickly followed by Yaquina and Madrigal. Coalition and
Claddagh continued out, and were soon looking far ahead to see the rest
of the fleet. Within an hour of the start, the entire A-fleet was short
tacking up the coastline, playing "chicken" with the shore. However,
we all had to tack out in order to honor the nun at Farnham Rocks.
At this point, Wags was in a duel with Madrigal and Red Baron.
Ahead of us were Sherherazade (in the lead), Yaquina, another boat we
thought was Ladylove, then the three of us. Claddagh and Coalition had
by now realized their mistake, come back in with the fleet, and were
merrily passing boats clawing their way back into the race.
About 10 PM the fog started rolling in. By this time the wind had
shifted around to almost completely south (170-175) ... dead nuts on
the nose to the mark. Boats were tacking up the rhumb line, but it was
tough to tell who they were unless they were within 50 feet or so. The
wind intensity was also very variable, and we did about 8 headsail
changes during this leg.
About 2 miles from the mark, Claddagh finally passed us. When they
realized who we were they gave us a sarcastic cheer as they crossed our
bow. About a mile later, we crossed a couple of boatlengths in front
of them and gave it back. At the mark, we were the 4th boat around,
behind Sherherazade, Yaquina, and the other boat (which we never did
positively identify).
Around midnight the wind died altogether. From then till about 3:30 AM
we had between 0 and 1 knot of wind to work with, shifting from 30 to
220 degrees. The water was like glass, and visibility in the fog was
50-100 feet. Around 1 AM we heard one of those throaty diesel engines
that are usually attached to something very large and metallic. Out
with the air horn and radar reflector. Suddenly there were air horns
all around us. Our fleet was sitting there bobbing in the fog with some
ocean-going vessel passing through where we were ... lemme tell ya,
that's a tense feeling. But whatever it was, it passed without
incident.
Around 3:30 we finally got a few knots of wind to work with ... now
from the northeast. So we beat for an hour or so and it died again.
Shortly after 5 AM we're ghosting along at about .5 kt in about a knot
of air when the boat starts rocking in rather large ripples. The water
had been flat and glassy. Now, about 100 feet to port, there were four
whales surfacing. I went down and woke up the rest of the crew, popped
in a tape, and sat back listening to Chuck Mangione's "Chase the Clouds
Away" while Mother Nature's most impressive creatures entertained us
for a few minutes. Definite trip highlight ... I had some nice words
for the Creator of all this right about then.
Back to the race ... we rounded the mark at Stellwagon Bank around 6:40
AM ... almost 12 hours into the race and we were only a little more
than a third done. Now we're starting to worry about finishing within
the time limit. Apparently we weren't the only ones. Four hours later
we still had not seen more than 4 kts of breeze, and that only for
short moments at a time. Around 10:30 we heard Coalition call the race
committee and drop out of the race. From the position they gave we
figured they were about a mile in front of us.
Shortly after that the wind finally started filling in. It had clocked
back around to the south and we were able to set the chute and make
some time. It felt great to have the boat moving along at 6-7 kts
again. By the time we reached the next mark (12:30 PM) the fog had
lifted and we could actually see chutes on the horizon behind us. Later
we figured out that the two chutes we saw belonged to Madrigal and Aurora.
These were the first boats of any kind we had seen in more than 12
hours.
The wind shifted southeast and we ended up reaching to Eastern point,
dropping the chute, and close hauling it back to Scituate. By now the
wind was up to 11-14 kts and we were averaging around 7 kts. With about
11 miles left in the race, the fog lifted again momentarily and we
could see for about 2-3 miles in all directions. There wasn't a sail
to be seen anywhere. Within minutes the fog was starting to roll back
in, and within the hour it was dense once again. With about 3.5 miles
to go we suddenly saw a sailboat about 100 yards to starboard. It
turned out to be Dark Star. Bad news ... we owed them much time, too
much to make back with the amount of race course we had left. Then
with a mile to go we heard Allegra cross the line, followed a few
minutes later by Red Baron. In front of them were Sherherazade,
Claddagh, Yaquina, and one other boat (we never did find out who). We
were 7th across the line, but placed 8th (Dark Star crossed about 3
minutes behind us, enough to make their time on us). We finished the
around 5:30 PM ... about 22 hours total time.
I did not stick around for the results, as I had to jump off at the
dock and get back to Marblehead in time for Sunday's race on Bo. When
I get the final results I'll post them here. If somebody else out
there has them, please post.
... Bob
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845.374 | Deck work | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Jun 20 1990 13:38 | 52 |
| Scott Wagner asked what kind of modifications we did on Wildside this
year. He was correct in that we were limited in our choices but
actually made some pretty big changes.
First, we decided the boat was too hard to sail the way it was laid
out. There were too many controls, sail tracks, and winches. Things
got crossed, there was no place to sit, and little things like the
spinnaker grinder having to keep the mainsheet clear drove us nuts.
We had two sets of jib track, an inner and outer. We rarely used the
outer and decided if we did need to open up the headsail slot we could
us a block on the rail. So we eliminated that track and with it got
rid of a set of Harken jib lead controls and the lines and shockcords
that go along with that. This also effectively widened our side decks
and gave us one less thing to trip on. Total weight savings were about
20 pounds.
We went from an eight winch setup to a six winch system by moving our
secondary winches from the cockpit coaming to the cabintop and
eliminating our halyard winches entirely (using the secondaries for
raising sails). The advantage of this is that it cleaned up the
cockpit coaming giving more room to move from side to side. The
spinnaker trim is done from the cabintop, well away from the mainsheet
and its misbehaving ways. During jibes, the spin trimmer has a clearer
view of the chute with the afterguy grinders now behind him. We can
also cross-sheet much easier to grind the spin trim on the high side
during tight reaches.
The things we had to change were focused in the pitman's duties. He
now has to raise halyards, spin poles etc. without the winches. That's
why we call him our pit bull. Overall, this change has been well
received by our crew. Total weight saved was about twenty pounds (the
combined weight of the two small halyard winches removed). But our two
secondaries weigh about 40 pounds and they were moved three feet closer
to the center of gravity.
Our main sheeting system was totally redone. The traveller system was
simplified from a 4:1 to a 2:1 system with the cam cleats on the car
and not the side decks. Downside is that in a breeze the main trimmer
gets a good workout. Benefit is the the ergonomics are far better and
there is less line to contend with and get tangled. The coarse and
fine trim on the main are now both double ended and cleat to the side
decks and not the blocks at the bottom of the cockpit. Again, better
ergonomics and a happier trimmer.
So what have these changes done for us? Hard to say. The boat is much
easier to sail, and will look a lot cleaner (when we finally paint the
deck and hide the scars). Sail trim is better and the crew feels the
boat is "theirs". I'd say 80% of the benefit is that the bitching and
groaning is eliminated during the races, and to me that was worth the
effort!
Dave
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845.375 | Chapman report from AVENTURE (no 'd') | 38514::WAGNER | | Wed Jun 20 1990 15:25 | 40 |
|
Here's some results I got second hand, on Monday. I'll fill in the
blanks tomorrow.
A B C D E
Yaquina Reggae ? American Princess Deep Trance
Scheherazade Mirage Windshaper Whirlwind
Red Baron Sailsman
? Slingshot
? Night Moves
Dark Star Bel la Mer
Wags Ultimate Joy
D N F's:
Coalition Rigamarole 3 DNF's 3 DNF's 5 DNF's
1 other... Ragamuffin
Aventure
Macushla
3 others
We bobbled in middle Cape Cod Bay 'til about noontime Saturday.
2nd mark was still 10 miles away... so we wimped out; joined the
Bwian Club and dieseled home. Murphy put a mojo on the LORAN right
before Mary Ann's, we found it by Braille navigation, then let the
Canal suck us in for a few hours...
I guess bopping immediatly north mighta saved us, but but but...
Now the FIRST leg, that was fun! Held off people that I would have been
satistfied just keeping transoms in sight; Frers 33, J-29 with hotshot
helm, C&C33, our sistership Mirage- quite satisfied with the boat, just
gotta straighten out that nut loose on the tiller.
Scott.
ps Thanks for the deck insights Dave; I'm inspired to Harkenize my
traveler. Maybe there's enuff loose change in the car ashtray }8^\ .
|
845.376 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Wed Jun 20 1990 16:33 | 8 |
| RE .375
Scott, those two question marks in A fleet would have to be Allegra and
Claddagh ... but I do not know in which order.
... Bob
|
845.377 | it's the little things that count ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Thu Jun 21 1990 14:36 | 30 |
| RE .374
Interesting to note that for the most part the deck mods were tailored
around crew ergonomics and efficiency ... nothing to make the boat go
faster per-se, just stuff that makes the crew get their jobs done with
less hassle and reduced chance for screwing up.
On Wags, many deck mods were made to reduce the necessity for physical
strength ... this due mostly to the co-ed nature of the crew. Mods
such as adding a 5:1 purchase to the outhaul, or adding more blocks
to the foreguy/pole lift, didn't make the boat go any faster. But it
reduced the need to have people scrambling around trying to help each
other out during chute sets or when the wind's piping, and you're
beating, and you'd really rather the crew had their butts on the rail.
Modifications to any boat are going to be as much a matter of racing
style and preference as anything else. It's a matter of going out
there and racing, then evaluating where your boat handling came up
short and coming up with a way to do something better to improve on the
performance. Seemingly insignificant changes in deck layout can often
help even reasonably mediocre sailors perform better by simplifying their
tasks and reducing the chance for error.
You'd be surprised at how much little things, such as running the leads
for outhaul, foreguy, vang, cunningham, traveller to where they can be
easily reached from either rail, can help you during a race. This in
turn can't help but make their boat more competitive.
... Bob
|
845.378 | Patton Bowl | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 25 1990 11:16 | 77 |
| Having just read the excellent account of the Bermuda race, I feel a
little silly reporting about our little 'round the bouys action, but
here goes.
This weekend was the manchester YC Patton Bowl. The races were
scheduled for both Saturday and Sunday. Saturday arrived with thick
dense fog. The start was off Gales Ledge by Manchester and just
getting there from marblehead proved to be a bit of a pain. The fog
was THICK. We were carefully motoring out with Jazz when we saw
Yaquina come out of the fog to our left motoring along at a solid 6
knots. I said "Gee, aren't they a bit far to the north" and was
watching them when they hit the bricks. HARD. The noise of a boat
going onto rocks is awful. They hit the rocks to the west of Eagle
Island. The tide was coming in strong and was pushing all of us to the
north. We hung around to offer assistance, but none appeared to be
needed. We notified the race committee and recommended that they
postpone the start as it was too foggy to race around in.
We finally did get out to the starting area, waited around for an hour
and a half, and the committee abandoned the race. Too bad because the
wind was a solid 15. As soon as we got back to the harbor it cleared
up and the one design fleets went racing while we sat on our mooring.
Yaquina did not break any ribs apparently, but I have to believe they
took a heck of a divot out of their keel.
So with nothing else to do, our whole crew went to Mattie's in M'head
and got drunk and disorderly. (Ofcourse the Claddaugh crew beat us to
the bar.)
Sunday was foggy, both on the water and in our heads. We were all
feeling awful from the night before. They committee postponed due to
no wind and fog. We picked up a lobster bouy and used it for a mooring
while we caught up on some sleep. The race finally did get started in
light winds. The course was a gold cup ( triangle, windward, leeward)
twice around. Ten legs. Not what our beat up crew wanted to hear.
After a poorly executed port tack start we went upwind with Loose
Goose, Bodacious, Jazz. The marks Manchester uses are very small and
hard to see from more than a quarter mile away. Anyway, we're beating
to weather and I ask our navigator what the bearing and distance is to
the first mark. His answer implied that we could fall way off and
still make the mark. But Loose Goose and Bodacious were tacking
further upwind and Jazz was right in front of us close on the breeze.
Had out navigator screwed up? No. As is turns out we end up setting
our chute to get down to the windward mark. To make matters worse, the
mark was a half mile off position further the breeze.
How did this happen? A huge shift, small marks, and collective brain
fade are all I can think of.
From this point on we were in catch up mode. We worked our way past
Lightning, Aurora and Claddaugh, while Loose Goose worked their way
past us to the lead. Claddaugh really threw the race away by going to
the wrong mark at the end of the first triangle. Because of the huge
windshift, the race became a series of reaches until the committee
changed the windward mark on the last windward/leeward sequence. Boat
speed and finding the marks were much more important than any tactical
decisions.
So, as it turned out Loose Goose crossed about 5 minutes ahead of us
but owed us 14 minutes. We second, but couldn't save our time on
Aurora, who ended up winning the race. We got second and Bodacious
pulled off a very impressive third over Jazz. Good job!
With the spring series over, I believe we took first for the series and
Bodacious second. No race this weekend. Next race is the Eastern YC
on July 4th.
BTW, I heard Bob Bailey was dallying in a sport that requires some
athletic ability and broke his ankle. Bob, you should know better than
that! That's why we sail. It's the only sport where you can sit the
whole time and drink beer. ;^)
Dave
|
845.379 | on the injured-reserve list ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Mon Jun 25 1990 12:13 | 8 |
| Yup, fractured me ankle playing basketball. Was feelin' bad about not
being out racing this week-end till I read your account, Dave. Guess I
really didn't miss much.
I hope to be back out by the EYC Annual (July 4).
... Bob
|
845.380 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Mon Jun 25 1990 13:14 | 27 |
| Hi guys.
Bo got a third? We thought 4th by a few seconds.
At any rate, very little about that race was impressive,
beginning with the course. The first mark was almost 1/2
a mile away from the RC's posted location. That's
why so many bots were barreling upwind. I just can't
believe that some boats made the same mistake twice!!!
Anyway, we seriously considerd protesting the RC, but
as everyone was equally disadvantaged, Jon said the
heck with it.
With all the scrambling we went through to climb back into
the race, we managed to screw-up so many things I'm surprised
we finished at all. Really. I'm very upset about abusing
our new number 1, and fear we took a lot out of it for no
good reason.
Anyway, Dave, you owe us one for that "sorry."
Bob, we missed you, and hope you can come out again
soon, but don't push it. It does no one any good to
gimp around on a boat. I know.
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.381 | Yaquina; Great upwind but not up the road | CIVIC::BUCHANAN | | Fri Jun 29 1990 11:50 | 40 |
| RE: Chapman Bowl which Yaquina didn't race in, having become a land
yacht.
Thank God I was not aboard for this particular race. Yaquina did take
a nasty divit out of her keel. She is now in Gloucester at Brown's
being worked on by Mark Lindsay. Fortunately the only damage was to
the base of the keel. The keel was not displaced from the hull and did
not compress the hull aft of the keel.
Mark had some criticism for the way in which the original fairing job
was accomplished last year (when Yaquina was Overtaker). For one thing
the keel was not symmetrical, there were some unfair areas half way
down from the canoe body and the leading edge was too fine. These
problems are going to be corrected. I guess $20,000 for a keel job
just isn't enough these days.
Yaquina has seemed sluggish in light air down wind, witness our
performance in the Lambert Cup race. This problem was partially
explained by the fact that the new paint job was an unmitigated
disaster. When she was hauled it became apparent that the paint had
blistered in a major way. We have spent the last few nights sanding
down to last year's paint (#80, #220, #400, #600; you know the drill!).
Close inspection reveals that last year's paint is badly crazed. A
visit by International Marine reps concluded that this crazing is the
probable cause of this year's paint problems. Crazing permits the old
paint to hold "thinner bleed-off", gas which emerges from the paint
over a multi-year period, as well as condensation. In short (actually
in long!) we have to sand to the gel coat and start over. This is a
problem for the next year. Until then, the divers of Marblehead will
have some steady income.
It looks like we will make the July 4 regatta and then the Corinthian
200. Having just finished the Bermuda race on Halcyon (a story for
another day) I feel primed and ready for some overnight sailing.
Thanks to Bob and the rest of you for the great race analyses.
RDB
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845.382 | Bermuda Race account? | CIVIC::BUCHANAN | | Fri Jun 29 1990 11:55 | 4 |
| RE: .378
Where is the account of the Bermuda race? It isn't under the 118 Topic
for the Bermuda Race?
|
845.383 | | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Fri Jun 29 1990 13:14 | 10 |
| re .381:
>>> I guess $20,000 for a keel job just isn't enough these days.
Are you serious??? $20,000 to fair a keel??? Surely you're kidding!!!
signed,
Flabbergasted
|
845.384 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Fri Jun 29 1990 13:25 | 4 |
| I got mad about spending $50 for some epoxy, sandpaper, and masks
to clean up my keel this year.
I feel much better now!
|
845.385 | If you have to ask the price... | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Jun 29 1990 14:22 | 14 |
| We had a new keel and rudder built by Mark Lindsay for Fat Tuesday for
just over $25,000. He is a perfectionist when it comes to blades! The
best. Whatever he does for you will be done right. Just watch out for
the boatyard bill at Brown's. It tends to add up real quickly!
The $20k must have referred to a complete bottom fairing job. That is
not incredibly unreasonable, but would have expected a symmetric keel
out of the deal at least.
Hope to see Yaquina out there on the 4th. Like I said in an earlier
note, the lack of structural damage where the keel meets the hull is a
testiment to C&C construction. I saw it hit and it was hard.
Dave
|
845.386 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Fri Jun 29 1990 14:46 | 11 |
| RE .381
Richard, a nit but ...
>> RE: Chapman Bowl which Yaquina didn't race in,
You mean the Patton Bowl, I'm sure. Yaquina took 1st in the Chapman
Bowl, if I'm not mistaken.
... Bob
|
845.387 | Yep..$20K | CIVIC::BUCHANAN | | Mon Jul 02 1990 11:24 | 16 |
|
RE: .386
Oops! I did mean the Patton Bowl.
RE: .383
I kid you not. Grout spent $20 k on fairing the keel, rudder and
painting the bottom of the boat last year. I don't know the full
extent of the work but the bottom doesn't look like it was modified in
any way except for the paint.
By the way...Chuck Samuelson has great things to say about both Lindsay
and Browns in this time of crisis.
RDB
|
845.388 | Need Crew for July 4th | STEREO::HO | | Mon Jul 02 1990 12:09 | 5 |
| I'm looking for someone to race on my Etchells in Marblehead this July
4th. If interested, give me a call on dtn 264-4407 or at home at
617-527-2058. Time frame is 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM.
- gene
|
845.389 | A "J"olly good time | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jul 02 1990 12:46 | 56 |
| This isn't strictly local racing in the sense that we participated, but
since the Eastern Yacht Club DID run the J Boat regatta, I guess it
fits in here.
The J's (Endeavor and Shamrock) raced for the first time ever off
Boston last Saturday. I was fortunate enough to get to spend some time
with the full-time crews on Friday night. Went below on both boats.
While Endeavor is spectacular in its detail and beauty, Shamrock is the
classic interior. Both were stripped of furniture and wrapped in foam
packing sheets to protect the interior from the rigors of sail
handling.
That friday afternoon Endeavor had run over its chute while jibing in
light air and tore the entire foot out. Tim Woodhouse (the owner of
Hood who makes all the sails for these beasts) was offered the Doyle
facilities in Marblehead rather than drive all the way down to
Portsmouth RI to the Hood loft to repair the chute. Tim said to
Robbie Doyle (loudly and jokingly) "Hell no. You can take my wife to
the party tonight, but you can't get your hands on my spinnaker!"
Actually, I ended up taking Tim's wife to the party and in exchange I
got to go on a press boat the next day to watch the race. The boats
had been measured for IMS ratings to set up a handicap. Shamrock is
markedly slower than Endeavor. About $10 million slower. So, the race
committee set up a course with two windward marks. One for Endeavor
and one for Shamrock with the Shamrock mark about a half mile shorter.
The start looked like it would belong to Shamrock until you realize
that you can't tack and accelerate in less than two minutes. Endeavor
took a running start and passed to leeward of Shamrock. From then on
they went on seperate tacks and were nowhere near each other. They
each rounded their respective windward marks at about the same time.
Shamrock had consistently better sail handling, and it paid off.
Shamrock won by about a minute which was about the time Endeavor messed
around with bad take downs and chute sets.
Except for the sheer majesty, the event was pretty boring. Shamrock
was a pig in 1930 and sixty years haven't improved things. The
handicapping makes the race somewhat fair, but provides for wide
seperation between the boats.
After the race there was much toasting and boasting. The skippers were
Ted Kennedy on Endeavor and Sen. Kerry on Shamrock. Kennedy provided
eight cases of Dom Perignon. What was really interesting was that
during the race Faszizi (sp?) pulled in to Charlestown and was right
across the docks from the J's. Took a peek down below. I wouldn't
sail to Bermuda on that much less around the world. What a pit! The
cook had to cook on his knees! NO headroom. It does look sort of cool
from the outside, though. All in all, it seems to me that Elizibeth
Meyer spent her money very well and is bringing a lot of joy to a lot
of people. That same $10 mil could have been spent on yet another huge
power yacht that would be anonymous. The Yachting Museum on Newport
has done a great job maintaining Shamrock back to near original
condition. And Faszizi? I'd take Siberia.
Dave
|
845.390 | J-boats off M'head in '38 | AIADM::SPENCER | Commuter from the other Cape | Mon Jul 02 1990 13:49 | 17 |
| >>> The J's (Endeavor and Shamrock) raced for the first time ever off
>>> Boston last Saturday.
Dave, perhaps your comment pertains to those particular boats,
specifically off Boston. However,...
J's have raced (all-out boat-for-boat, same marks) in these parts, as my
father enjoys recalling. In 1938, after he and his father had done well
in Annisquam catboat and Fish classes at M'head Race Week, they both were
invited aboard a private yacht of about 75' LOA to watch the spectacle of
the last race of 4 J-boats together, off Marblehead. There were Ranger,
Weetamoe and two others I forget right now. Anyway, for a boy of 18 who'd
never sailed anything over 16', it was a heady day. My grandfather was
more circumspect in his recollection, as the yacht belonged to his boss,
and he was apparently somewhat self-conscious most of the day.
J.
|
845.391 | The Goose finds its wings | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Jul 05 1990 11:31 | 62 |
| Eastern YC ran its Annual Regatta yesterday, the 4th. As usual, the
turnout was good. Class A had 13 entries. The day was very hot and
windy. The course was a windward-leeward, twice around, with short
offset legs at the windward marks to help keep the mark roundings sane.
Distance was 20.4 miles including the offsets.
The wind started out at about 240 degrees at 16 knots. The first
weather leg was uneventful for us with the exception of a perfectly
executed slam dunk on us by Full Tilt Boogie. I could have sworn the
guy had lost his mind and was going to hit us. We congratulated them
on the move and tacked away. We were crossing in front of Yaquina at
one point , preparing to tack to cover when they started yelling at us
not to tack. We were going to go a little further and then tack, but
with all that yelling we tacked right on top of them. Don't know who
they were trying to kid.
The downwind leg was a disappointment. The wind went further west by
about 30 degrees and a lot of boats we had buried at the windward mark
were right back there at the leeward mark.
We spent too much of the second windward leg in a tacking duel with
Scherherezade and both of us let Coalition slip away. I should also
say that while all this was happening Loose Goose had taken off from
the very start and was sailing her own race way in front of the pack.
They had to since they owed us something like 15 minutes on this length
of a course. We rounded the last mark a minute behind Scherezade and
right with Full Tilt and Yaquina. Then came the downhill rush to the
finish.
The wind was blowing a solid 20 now and we had to finish less than a
minute behind Scherezade to finish third. Coalition was gone and it
looked like Loose Goose would save her time on the fleet. We also had
to finish less than a minute behind Yaquina and less than two minutes
behind Full Tilt. Note here that Full Tilt sailed with a rating of 63
compared to our 69. Crazy. We should rate even, but that's another
note. We were making time of Scherezade and not worrying about Full
Tilt or Yaquina as it was apparent they would not save their time.
Yaquina was approaching the line at a lower angle than us and reached
up for the last three minutes. We hitched a ride on their wake and
added three tenths to our speed. finished 30 seconds behind
Scherherezade to take third and just put enough time between us and
Bodacious to hold it. We let Full Tilt slide in there as they didn't
matter to us. They crossed 2 seconds before us.
We made three dumb mistakes. 1) We didn't anticipate the shift to the
westerly breeze when we all knew it was coming. Every forecast had
predicted it. 2) We didn't go to our #3 headsail when the wind piped
up. Held with our #2 which overpowered us and made tacking difficult.
3) Got sucked into a tacking duel with Scherehezade and let Coaliton
get away unencumbered as well as many other boats catch up. Fortunatly
none of these was fatal and we had a good day.
Results in Class A: First, Loose Goose; Second, Coalition; Third,
Wildside; Fourth, Scherherezade.
The Corinthian 200 is tomorrow. We aren't doing it. Too many of our
crew (wisely) had other obligations. Through this and a quirk in the
scheduling, we don't race again until the 21st and 22nd of July.
Stinks.
Dave
|
845.392 | new england 100 - 1990 | AKOV11::KALINOWSKI | | Tue Jul 10 1990 11:53 | 90 |
|
Although used to buoy racing in Hobie regattas, I had a chance to
sail in the New England 100 last weekend. This race, sponsored by the
New England Multihull Association originates in New London Ct and sails
27 miles to Pt Judith RI. The second leg is on to New Bedford Ma,
which will add another 42 miles. It is open to all multihulls from 16
ft upward using PHRA ratings. A total of 57 boats were in attendance
with a wide variety of brands. There were Big Trimarans, Formula 40s,
Stilleto 24s, Nacra, SuperCats, Prindles, Hobies, Darts, Etc of all
sizes and conditions.
We entered the A Class with consisted of 16-21 ft production boats
with additional headsails. We were using this race as a chance to
figure out how to use our spinnaker with the prevailing Southwest
winds. When we heard that winds would be from the North East, I went
frantic as it would mean we would be beating the whole way, and my
original sails were terrible upwind. I called the dealer for the
umpteenth time to find out if my replacements sails had arrived from
the factory (having dealt with the factory personally the week
before). They had, but the employee who lives close by was not working
that day, so unless I drove the extra 175 miles Friday, I was out of
luck. Needless to say, we left the house 3 hours earlier and picked up
the new rags. I was feeling ready for bear, but a bit nervous of not
having had a chance to shake out the the sails, and sailing in
an area I had not been before.
Saturday was a sunny day in the 80s, clear with a light wind from the
NE. A lemans start and a quick spinnaker run down the Thames river got
us out to Fisher Island sound. Once in there, the wind got real weird.
It seemed to be veering 180 degrees and with very little
force. My move to go right up the middle of the sound turned out to
be a costly mistake as I got caught in one of those holes where two
different winds push each other with no winners. (Some day I am going
to figure out how not to do this, as it has happened before). I took
about half an hour to tack over to the fisher island side and make use
of the South Westerly. Once out of the Sound, I decided to head
outward where I hoped the SW breeze would freshen first. This turned
out to be my second glaring error as the wind died down for an hour
and half all the while the boats near shore were making steady
progress even though they were sailing further. As we neared Pt
Judith, the wind freshened to about 5-7 knts, but the damage had been
done. I was in last place in my class as the bobbing for almost 2
hours cost me dearly. That night, a wonderful party thrown by the
organizers did make me feel better. Tomorrow was always another day.
The next day we went over the boat and found we had never emptied the
hulls of water, and this oversight for the past couple of weeks was
worth a lot of weight on a already sluggish light air boat. The race
started at 9:30 in the morning with a light wind (3-5) out of the
northeast. I had tacked over to the opening of one of the breakwater
openings to give me a layline to the one I wanted. Just as I got
there, the stop watch turned 10Am and every cement head in Southern
N.E. with a powerboat came blowing by under full tilt and always in
front of me. There must have been a cement head convention or wake
size contest at Gays Head or something. The waves killed any momentum
in the boat and I went into irons with a lessing breeze. The fact that
30 boats were ghosting their way in front of me didn't help. By the
time we got out of Pt Judith breakwater it was 10:30. 1 hour gone, 1
mile completed and only 41 to go with a lessening breeze. We sailed a
low line past Newport with a spinnaker and then started heading up to
gain speed the calming air. We started slowing passing people, but we
were heading further out. I didn't care, as when you're in last, you
have nothing to lose ;>( . This worked well for the next couple of
hours although stretched out on my side lying on a hull for 3 hours on
a single tack is pretty rough on body. As we got close to Horseneck
beach, the wind started to come up a bit to about 5 knts from a
south-southwesterly direction. The waves were from the south, so we
gybed off and headed north until we knew we could use apparent wind
right up channel. This worked great was now the channel was making the
waves go Northeast. As the we got close to Buzzards bay the wind came
up to about 10-15 knts and the boat started responding. Unfortunately
my crew and I were tired after 2 long days lying on the deck holding
the sheets. as the wind came up we had to hold on as the boat really
accelerated with the spinnaker on reaches. We finished more
respectably, but by no means struck fear in the hearts of the top 3
:>) . Noter Jeff Duncan was one of organizers and I must say, they did
an excellent job with enough people to get the job done right at not
one, but 3 different locales.
The race was good for teaching us spinnaker skills, and how to
pilot one's boat in the real world, rather than one of those C.G.
courses. I also found not knowing the area makes it more difficult to
set a strategy. Lastly, we overlooked simple things on the boat as we
concentrated on items related to safety and new equipment.
If you have a multihull and wish to increase your sailing skills, this
race may be the one for you.
john
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845.393 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Thu Jul 19 1990 17:12 | 7 |
| Rumor has it there will be 100 J/24's on the line tomorrow for the
Volvo regatta.
The lift at Ft. Adams has been so busy all day they canceled tonights
Newport series race. With this many boats, maybe we can beat somebody.
-Paul
|
845.394 | CYC Midsummer Regatta ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Mon Jul 23 1990 10:51 | 120 |
| The Corinthian YC hosted the Midsummer Regatta this week-end. There
was a light turn-out in A-fleet, but the races were well run, the
weather was reasonably good, and the entertainment factor was high.
Saturday's race was postponed for 20 minutes while the wind died and
then filled in from the south. It shifted slowly easterly as the day
progressed. The race committee set a 20-mile course, somewhat like a
skewed Gold Cup course. The first mark was a beat to a portable mark
set 4 miles south of Tinker's Gong. From there it was a run to a nun
off of Halfway rock (about 5-1/2 miles), a reach back to Tinker's
(2-1/2 miles), a close-hauled fetch back to the portable, and a
screaming reach to the finish at Tinker's.
There were only four boats in A-fleet; Wildside, Bodacious, Arbella,
and Smoke. Wildside and Bo' quickly established a lead on the other
two boats, and it was Wildside in the lead around the first mark. On
the downwind leg they clearly had superior speed, and increased their
lead to a minute or more over Bo'. As we were approaching the mark
Wildside gybed away, going at an angle that didn't seem to make any
sense to us. We watched them sailing away from the mark. Apparently
they were headed for the wrong nun !! Meantime, B-fleet was catching
up to A-fleet. The wind slowly shifting to the east enabled them to
fetch the mark while we had to gybe a few times. Wildside suddenly
realized their mistake when they saw the three other A boats and the
leading B boats heading for the nun and came back to join the party.
By now we had established about a 3-1/2 minute lead on them and Smoke,
and about a minute and a half lead on Arbella.
With the wind building and shifting easterly, the final three legs were
basically point it at the mark and trim the sails. Wildside clawed her
way back past Smoke and was catching Arbella, who was catching us. But
we took the gun, with Arbella 5 seconds behind us and Wildside only
about 1-1/4 minutes back. Smoke had been lapped by Wags, who took the
gun for B-fleet.
Sunday's race was also delayed, due to fog and the fact that so many
boats were late arriving through the soup. The race finally started
at noon. The course was similar to Saturday's, but the marks were
different to account for the different wind, which was fairly steady
from the south-east. The first mark was a portable, 3 miles
south-east; then to Newcomb's ledge, back to Tinker's, back to the
portable, and back to Tinker's. Total course length about 15.6 miles.
Claddagh and Kestrel (J/37) came out on Sunday, so A-fleet had 6 boats
in it. Campbell's Sloop joined B-fleet on Sunday, making 9 boats in
that fleet. While waiting for the race to start, the crew of Katabatic
demonstrating their skill at making a Soverel 33 sail backward. This
was but the first of a variety of unusual entertainment that was
provided on this day.
Bo' got off to a very good start, as did Wildside and Claddagh. We had
managed to keep clear air right up till we were ready to approach the
first mark. Then we let Arbella tack on top of us and pin us in the
corner, forcing us to overstand the mark. This allowed Claddagh and
Wildside to make up a lot of the lead we had established on them.
Arbella was the first boat around the mark, with us on their stern,
Wildside on ours, and Claddagh only a few boatlengths back. Smoke and
Kestrel brought up the rear about 2-3 minutes behind Claddagh.
The second leg was a screaming reach with the chute set in as tight as
it would go. Smoke opted to stay with her jib, and in the end it
turned out to be the correct choice as she clawed her way back up with
the leaders. Arbella then provided the second act of entertainment for
the day. In attempting to take her chute down she managed to somehow
let it get behind the boat and fill ... she was actually attempting to
go upwind with the chute still up and drawing backwards! Needless to
say she dropped waaaayyyyy back in the fleet by the time they got that
sucker down. Wildside was the first boat to round, but had apparently
not noticed the wind shifting and had their pole on the wrong side. So
they had to head out away from the mark and gybe, giving us a chance to
take the lead, with Smoke right beside us. Claddagh, finally looking
like her old self, set her chute and just sailed away from the pack.
Wildside passed us again about halfway down this leg. We pretty much
stayed with Smoke for the rest of the leg. Rounding Tinker's it was
Claddagh, Wildside, Smoke, Bo', Arbella, and Kestrel. Going back
upwind we managed to pass Smoke and make time on both Wildside and
Claddagh. Around the final bouy it was Claddagh, Wildside, Bo',
Arbella, Smoke, and Kestrel.
The last leg was truly entertaining. Our strategy was to ride on
Wildside's quarter-wave and attempt to stay close enough to make our
time on her. At the mark we were only 22 seconds back. They tried to
shake us with several quick gybes, but we managed to match them each
time and stay where we wanted to be. This was not only much fun, it
was also quite entertaining. The crew of Wildside was trying to throw
us off our guard by waiting till the bowman went into action before
moving to do the gybe. The bowman was crouching in the forward hatch,
out of our sight. All at once he'd spring outta the hatch and the whole
boat would quickly go into motion. We realized what they were doing
after the first couple of gybes and would just watch their bow. When
the "rabbit" came outta the hole, it was time to gybe ... ;^)
However, they were successful in opening up the lead on us. So as we
were approaching the line we decided it was time for a desperation
ploy. We came up on a hotter angle trying to go for speed and gybe
to approach the finish. But the wind shifted against us and our
strategy backfired. we lost out to Wildside by about 30 seconds,
corrected time. Wildside crossed the finish line about a minute
behind Claddagh, with us about a 1-1/4 minutes behind them.
Results in A and B fleets for the two-day event were:
Saturday Sunday
A-Fleet B-Fleet A-Fleet B-Fleet
------- ------- ------- -------
1st Bodacious Wags Claddagh Alibi
2nd Arbella High Zoot Wildside Campbell's Sloop
3rd Wildside Vapor Trail Bodacious Bad Company
Overall regatta winners in A and B fleet were:
A-Fleet B-Fleet
------- -------
1st Bodacious Wags
2nd Wildside High Zoot
... Bob
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845.395 | Cap'n! Moose off the starboard bow! | RECYCL::MCBRIDE | | Mon Jul 23 1990 11:25 | 27 |
| From the annals of strange and exciting racing experiences comes this
little brush with mother nature over the weekend. We were in the the C
fleet for the Lake Champlain Race which as usual we were late to the
starting line by about 8 minutes. Since the race is about 90 miles
long we were not too worried. The fleet tends to buch up as the wind
dies during the night. As it turned out, we caught the D fleet and the
rest of our fleet within about 4 hours. From then on there was no
looking back. It turned real foggy at around 1 AM and stayed that way
until mid morning on Saturday. We practiced potato navigation down to
Diamond Island which was exciting to say the least. Luckily the water
stays deep right up to shore down toward the southern end of the lake.
As we were coming back up the lake after having found our mark and
rounding, we noticed something floating in the water off our starboard
bow. At first it looked like a log with several birds perched on it.
We discussed this for about 15 seconds until we all came to the
realization at the same time that we were looking at a swimming moose!
It was the rack that was sticking out of the water. It would not have
been so strange if we were closer to shore but we were about a mile off
the NY side in 300 feet of water. We don't know if he wandered into the
water and became disoriented or if this is a normal activity. We ended
up winning this race by several hours since the wind died mid afternoon.
We ghosted over the line at about 1/4 knot and could not see our
competition anywhere behind us. The moose sighting was definitely the
high point of the event though. Never a dull moment.
Brian
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845.396 | Oh deer, I moose be seeing things! | AIADM::SPENCER | Commuter from the other Cape | Mon Jul 23 1990 13:06 | 13 |
| RE: In antler to your question:
>>> We don't know if he wandered into the water and became disoriented
>>> or if this is a normal activity.
People also see deer (mini-moose, to some) swimming in the ocean waters of
coastal Maine. The furthest I've ever seen one was on the rhumbline from
Metinic headed to Isle Au Haut, a couple miles south of Vinalhaven. It is
relatively normal, since young males which are unsuccessful in mating
either instinctually seek prospects on distant shores or may be driven off
by a bull in charge of the island or area they were previously inhabiting.
J.
|
845.397 | CYC Summer Series | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jul 23 1990 15:57 | 30 |
| And here all this time I got excited by seeing whales occasionally!
Re: -.3
Bob's account is accurate with a couple of things he left out. We (Bo
and Wildside) sailed without lorans this weekend. We have two so that
they can both be down for unrelated reasons simultaneously ;^). This
made finding the marks fun in the fog and haze yesterday. On the last
windward leg we knew we were getting near the port tack layline but
wanted to go further left and wait for a header to tack back onto port.
problem was we didn't know how much further we could go without
overstanding. But we saw Bo going left still and thought it must be
okay. They saw us going over and thought it must be okay. Neither of
us overstood (by dumb luck) and it wasn't until after that we realized
that neither of us knew for sure where we were going!
Bob also kindly forgot to mention that our foredeck wizard put the
chute up sideways at the set, preventing us from jibing and forcing us
to sail 1/4 mile perpendicular to the course.
Our mistake on Saturday of going to the wrong mark is actually
explainable. The mark was "R4" in Cat Island Channel. However, there
are TWO "R4"'s. One at the northern end off Eagle Island (which we
were going to) and the right one, a nun nearer to Halfway Rock. Still,
we did have the coordinates of the proper mark, and not checking it was
major brain fade on our nav's part.
All in all, a nice weekend.
Dave
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845.398 | Bad R.C.'s at the VOLVO... | MFGMEM::TRAINOR | Dinghy Thingies | Fri Jul 27 1990 11:12 | 63 |
| Just a brief description of the J-24 VOLVO Regatta in Newport, that was
held last Friday, Sat., and Sun. As Paul Keenan mentioned with
anticipation, there were just under 100 boats on the starting line each
day. Actually there were 92. You can imagine how much starting
practice the race committee gave us.
On Friday, the first race had a starting line just south of Rose Island
in Naragansett Bay, with a strong SSE breeze blowing about 10 to 14mph.
The tide was dead low at 7:00AM and high at 1:05PM, which put the flow
for most of the race coming from the direction of the first mark. The
course was a Windward-Leeward-Windward.
The first gun was around 10:30, and the first two starts were total
chaos as a good half of the boats were over early. On the third start
the committee decided to move the pin to heavily favor that end of the
line to keep the collisions with the committee boats (there was one on
the starboard side of the line and one in the middle of the line) to a
minimum. We got a start about a third of the way from the pin, right
next to Jeff Moore and Ken Reed (Doyle Sails and Shore Sails). The
wind was not shifting, so the most important thing was to get out of
the current by getting to the shores and short tacking. The favored
side was Jamestown, but the boat traffic forced us to the Fort Adams
side. There was only about 20 boats with us on that side. We made a
few tacking mistakes and wound up at the windward mark with only about
20 boats behind us. As we headed back wind it became apparent that
the Fort Adams side was favored now. We managed to pass about 5 to 10
boats down wind as we actually planed for about 30 seconds. Back up
wind we dropped a few more boats and finished 78 at about 1:50PM.
The second race didn't start until about 3:30 after 2 more recalls.
This race was outside of the bay near Brenten Tower. Again the pin end
was favored, but the shifts made the right side of the course favored.
We started almost on top of the committee boat, without any collisions,
and were the first to go right. It was 2 miles to the first mark, and
with only 100 yards to go we were on the lay line with only 9 boats in
front of us. At that point one of the race committee chase boats cuts
everyone off and puts up the postponement flag. It turns out that the
A fleet PHRF boats had a course that brought them within a few yards of
the windward mark. What we had learned in this race though was how to
make the boat go fast in high wind and rough seas.
The first race of the second day was pretty uneventful and we took
about 45th out of the 92. By the second race the committee was tired
of doing general recalls, so they hung the black flag. Anyone over
early was thrown out. The only problem was that after a start they
would do a general recall and then notify the people who they saw over
during the previous start that they could go home. The rule doesn't
work that way, but by the time we got off of the line all of the big
whigs were thrown out. This race was dominated by light winds and big
shifts and we finished in the top 3rd. We got back to the docks to
find out that they had thrown out the race due to their acceptance that
the race committee had made a mistake in their understanding of the
rule.
Sunday the fog rolled in so there were no races. So, they decided to
reinstate the botched up fourth race with average points awarded to the
guys who were thrown out. What a screwed up event. We are still
waiting to find out how we did.
Charlie
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845.399 | I heard about the mess in Newport | AKOV11::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Jul 27 1990 12:53 | 8 |
| Good report. I've done big J24 regattas (midwinters, regionals etc.)
where the fleet was split into silver and gold fleets, making the
starts less hectic. Thirty boats on a line is a LOT different than 80
to 100 boats. I can't imagine that the committee assumed that all
boats had an equal chance of winning. The split fleet concept might
have saved some headaches. I am surprised they didn't use it.
Dave
|
845.400 | Bad Regatta - Great Starting Practice | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Mon Jul 30 1990 13:34 | 16 |
| The J/24 results for the VOLVO are still up in the air. The thing
is such a mess it'll take weeks of protests to figure it out.
I think the RC just couldn't deal with a large aggressive fleet.
There's little chance of starting 92 boats fairly. They should have
PMSed as many boats as possible and let the fleet go; over the weekend
they'd have caught most of the offenders. If they wanted perfectly fair
starts then split the fleet.
Starting in a big fleet can be a lot of fun. You can get away with
murder if you hide behind a bulge in the line. You really have no
choice but to get up on the line, stick your bow out, then power up
and go before the next guy. To sit back and not risk a PMS will
guarantee a fleet load of bad air. I feel the competitors accepted
this but not the RC.
accepted this but not the RC.
|
845.401 | Too big | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jul 30 1990 13:53 | 8 |
| I was in New Orleans this weekend and talked with a buddy of mine who
had run the J24 midwinters last winter out of the Southern Yacht Club.
He told me that at all sanctioned J24 championships you MUST split the
fleet when the total entries exceeds a certain number. He was working
from memory, but it was about 32. In short, the Volvo had three times
the amount of starters the J24 class association thinks is manageable.
Dave
|
845.402 | Berringer, ugh. | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Mon Aug 06 1990 12:27 | 34 |
| Last weekend marked the low-point (so far) of this season
on Bodacious. Up till now we've enjoyed close competition on
the course *and* good finishing results. With one exception,
caused by gear failure, Bo has placed in the top three in
every race she has entered. Not so with the Berringer Overnight
race. We were forced to withdraw after a fading breeze and
strong tide conspired to wrap us around a large bell at 2 am
Saturday morning. We were being dragged stern-to into the
buoy, and rather than risk damaging the rudder or letting someone
injure themselves with heroics, we engaged our engine to avoid
collision.
In some ways, however, the disaster was fitting: After leading
the way around the course for the first three legs, we managed to
drop to the back in one leg due to some serious tactical blundering.
Having played the right side of the course for the first downwind
leg and making out like bandits, we elected to maximize VMG in realtime
for the 2nd downwind leg because it looked like the wind was fairly stable.
A *very* bad assumption, as Wildside demonstrated. She took the
right side and came from *way* back to take the lead. Nice going!
What was the rest of race like? We went to Castle Rock to see
what was happening around 10 am, and it looked like a drifter,
but then we saw Wildside on her mooring, so you guys must have
followed some breeze around.
Anyway, the crew of Bo has been duely chagrined. The experience
did remind us, however, of just how infuriating it can be
to bob around on an overnight race, and I think this refresher
may save us from doing the Monhegan next weekend.
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.403 | Night racing stinks | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 06 1990 12:44 | 66 |
| Well, against all better judgement, we did the Beringer overnight race
put on by the Boston YC last Friday night. The course was seven legs
and just over 62 miles long. Started at Tinkers, went to Boston
"monster bouy", to Marblehead Bell, to Graves Whistle, to Eastern
Point, back to Graves, back to the monster bouy, and finished at
Marblehead Bell.
The weather couldn't have been better. Warm, with moderate breeze.
Nearly full moon and a cloudless sky made for great visibility. Seas
were small and the sailing was beautiful. In spite of all this, it
stunk!
Class A was four boats. Bodacious, Claddagh, Lightning, and Wildside.
Three of the four of us had no choice but to race because we are in the
hunt for series/season champoinship. The race is so heavily
incentivized with points toward a championship that you can't afford to
ignore it. That should be the first clue that this is not a fun thing
to do. People simply do not LIKE to race all night and end up in the
exact place they started, exhausted.
The first leg was shifty and playing shifts was key. For a while we
were looking good but we jokingly said "some how, Bodacious HAS to be
first around the mark. They always are." Sure enough, they rounded
first, but not far in front. The downwind leg to marblehead bell was
different. Bo and Claddagh went right, we went left. The wind to the
left (toward shore) was lighter and we tanked. Bo rounded ten minutes
or more in front of us! Pretty depressing, but the race is pretty long
so we fought back. Claddagh had rounded three minutes ahead and we
worked on catching them. Lightning was behind as usual. This was a
three boat race.
We then had a long downwind leg to Eastern Point off of Gloucester (14
miles). We were not going in toward shore again! We went out to sea
and jibed when we thought we could lay the mark on a good angle
according to our polars. We had lost sight in the dark of Claddagh and
Bodacious. Approaching the mark it became clear to us that we were
going to round in front of both Claddagh and Bo. What happened, I can
only quess that they went into shore and hit lighter breeze. That is a
LOT of time to lose.
We rounded Eastern Point in first (which never would have happened in a
day race. You can't hide in the darkness) and had Claddagh breathing
down our necks all the way to Graves. Almost done now. Only a short
leg to the monster bouy and then 7 miles home. We rounded Graves a
little ahead of Claddagh.
Then the sun came up. And the wind went away. And Claddagh passed us
with their big masthead rig. And life was bad. Only thing to do was
break out the beer. Breakfast of champions.
the rest of the race was us slowly catching Claddagh and them pulling
away again until we got within a mile of the finish and the wind REALLY
died down to nothing. We split. They went right, we went left looking
for breeze. They got it five minutes before we did and won the race.
Now throughout all this we noticed that Bodacious had disappeared. We
had no idea what happened to them. When the sun came up they weren't
around. Apparently they dropped out at some point as did Lightning.
Don't know why. Thought they needed the points too badly.
Anyway, our crew did a great job and the sailing was great. The
concept of these night races needs to be re-thought. It always comes
down to a crap shoot when the sun comes up on an August morning and the
wind dies. My time is too valuable.
Dave
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845.404 | So that's what happened | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 06 1990 12:52 | 9 |
| Dean and Bob, I must have been writing my note while you were writing
yours. What bell did you tangle up in? Eastern Point? What happened?
We noticed the wind die shortly after we rounded Eastern Point.
We finished around 8:30 Saturday morning. Would have finished by 6 or
6:30 had the breeze not taken the morning off! Sorry about your DNF.
Even sorrier that Claddagh now has two firsts in the summer series.
Dave
|
845.405 | They were all at BBR | STEREO::HO | | Tue Aug 07 1990 17:02 | 96 |
| A rather light turnout. Although not surprising with many Marblehead boats
down at the Buzzard's Bay Regatta. I ran into the daughter of one of our
Etchells friends there who, in her first stint as navigator, plotted a first
place finish for Yaquina. Don't know how they did for the rest of the
regatta but they were a pretty upbeat bunch on Friday.
My wife and I made it to the BBR but Touche did not. Just couldn't find the
third crew despite much pleading. Paul Keenan found himself in somewhat
the same predicament for Friday so I volunteered us both to crew on his
J24 for the day. After reading about their chaotic starting practices I
couldn't wait to see it in real life. I was not to be disappointed.
The BBR limited the number of entries to 40 for any one design fleet to
avoid the problems that plagued the Volvo regatta. That's about the number
of J24's that showed up. 40 is not that large a number and with the size
of the Bay it was possible to set the racing circles for all the classes
far enough apart to minimize any potential traffic problems. With five
experienced people to share the work on a small boat I anticipated a
relaxing day. In fact, I had sold my wife on the idea of going by telling
her it would be an easy day of fun in the sun.
There was plenty of sun. Paul found us with no problem and we motored out
the starting area in light breeze. The Bay really can swallow up a 40 boat
and we wandered around a bit looking for our competition. There is a lot
of cross fertilization (i. e. plagiarism) of ideas on layout between the
J24's and Etchells. Paul had all the same strings in more or less the same
places so we felt right at home. When we found our line, I was ready.
Just two fleets, J22's and J24's on our line. Should be no problem. We
were poised for our 10:30 warning gun.
10:30 came, we heard a gun and figured that's for us. Normally the fastest
boats start first. Since we were still a ways off, we made a bee line for
the committee boat to get the course info. Turned out it was the J22's
start. They got off cleanly and we waited for our gun. After what seemed
like about 5 minutes I saw the red shape go up on the committee boat.
Since the visual signal takes precedence over the audible we started along
with about half the fleet. Then we hear the gun and the rest of the fleet
starts. First general recall.
The next sequence starts OK but boats at the committee end bunch up on the
line obscuring the flag marking the line. Everyone else downwind of them
does a naultical equivalent of dress-right-dress but adding a few feet.
You guessed it. The whole fleet's over early. Second GR. Next sequence
finds a bulge at the committee boat. I yell to Paul "They can't see us -
go for it". He does, it's a great start but they call it back. By now the
J22's have completed their first circuit and are bearing down on our line.
Postponement flag goes up and we take breather.
Gun goes off, postponment flag goes down, and we start our watches. A
minute later another gun. A dozen boats start. My wife figures it out.
This is the real start of the sequence. The first gun is just the end of
the postponment. But now there's a yellow shape up. That's not in the
book. We go on the premise that it's really a white shape that's mildewed.
By now the black flag is up and everyone's cautious. Paul swings up to
leeward of a boat approaching the line. We squeeze him back and, with
brother Mike calling the line, alternately feather and foot our way inches
ahead of the pack. As the gun goes off we start in clean air and pull away
from the pack close to, if not in, first place. Boatspeed's good and we tack
more to keep our air clear than anything else. It works and we round the
windward mark in sixth in a tight cluster. But not without some
contention as a port tacker tries to take our place on the layline and
bends one of our port stanchions in the process.
The course is WL twice around. On the run everyone scatters and we take a
conservative route down the middle. Maybe too conservative. Boats sailing
higher on both sides pull ahead and there's quite a convergeance shaping up
at the takedown mark. Clean chute douse, we call for room on some outside
boats, and tell the boat behind us that he has no rights for buoy room.
That didn't stop him and he slams into us again with some colorful commentary to
boot. Same boat that bent our stanchion at the previous mark. This pushes
us back a few boats and makes the next upwind leg a bit tougher with more
boats and bad air to dodge. Couldn't make up any ground on the upwind and
one or two boats sneak by on the last run. When we cross the line there
are still more boats in back than in front.
By now it's PM and the Buzzard's Bay Southwester is blowing with vigor.
The committee now has its act together and we get clean start off.
Unfortunately behind 39 other boats. May as well have been racing in a
vacuum chamber. A bazillion tacks to clear our air and take advantage of
minute headers got us nothing other than blisters and cramps. Don't
believe any of the nonsense about easy sail handling on J24. That genny is
plenty big when it's blowing in the high teens. This was a six legged
Olympic course but it was decided in the first 20 yards after the start.
We never improved our position.
They gave us a third race (how geneous!). Another Olympic. Another 0 of a
start. Somewhere around 38 at the first mark. Couldn't get anything back
in the tight reaches, hit the corner on the next leg out of exhaustion
and hourglassed the chute in the run. By now we finally figured out how to
get two persons on the genny and we tack a bit more aggressively on the last
weather leg. Put six boats behind us on that one but it didn't feel
especially satisfying. Just too tired and we knew we shoulda done better.
Things went better on Sat and Sun but I wasn't there. Spent much of Sat in
bed recovering. Now I know why J24 sailors are mostly in their teens and
twenties. Definitely a young persons boat.
|
845.406 | | 29805::WITTENBERG | Secure Systems for Insecure People | Wed Aug 08 1990 12:15 | 18 |
| Gee, I really like night racing. Distance races are a much
different competition which requires somewhat different skills.
Learning how to pace people, and make sure that they get enough
sleep is important.
We have the skipper navigate full time (he normally steers the
start and the first half hour to an hour, and doesn't touch the
helm again.) We have two watches each with two helmsmen. This
means that we always have a reasonably fresh helmsman.
Once you have that, you can concentrate on strategy, and where the
wind will come from next. This is sailboat racing as it used to
be, with courses that don't change depending on the weather, but
are from point to point. It's also much more stategic than day
racing, with ultimate boat speed less important, but keeping the
boat moving fast at night a real challenge.
--David
|
845.407 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Wed Aug 08 1990 14:16 | 9 |
| re 404
Eastern Point -- near the rig. We were just rounding
as the wind died completely. Tacked with the last of the
breeze, realized the current was dragging us down, and tried to
tack away, but by then the attraction was gravitational.
So, now we're doing the CYC race on Sunday -- can't afford not
to -- although it will be tough to offset our debacle.
|
845.408 | Sleep? You gotta be kiddin' | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Aug 08 1990 14:46 | 21 |
| re 407
Dean, that really must have been a bummer. Truly sorry.
re 406
No, that's how night racing SHOULD be. We never had anybody get sleep.
Need people on the rail or trimming. With the course we had there was
lots of jibing, mark rounding, tacking etc. On a long distance point
to point race you are right. On a round the bouys with lots of marks
you can't enjoy yourself and be competitive. IMHO only ;^).
We had only two people drive all night. The driver has only that job
and gets to rest on his time off.
Lest people get the wrong impression, I love to do deliveries at night.
Night sailing is beautiful and there is a feeling that you have the
ocean to yourself that is hard to beat. It's hard core racing that I
find to be a bit stupid.
Dave
|
845.409 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Fri Aug 10 1990 13:25 | 5 |
| I don't know -- forget where I once said it, but someplace
in this note I recount some "peak" experiences while racing
long-distance. Of course, last weekend was the "pit."
;)
|
845.410 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Mon Aug 13 1990 14:23 | 23 |
| CYC summer...
Good race, with nice weather work -- a portable set 5
miles up the pike. But tough to recover from the fickle
wind on the first leg. Though predicted to go right, a
seeming bias to the left looked too attactive to pass up,
and we gambled instead of covering our primary competition.
They sailed off into the predicted shore breeze.
After letting Wildside and Claddagh go, we found ourselves
in a dog fight with Jazz (Express 37) for much of the race.
That turned out to be a lot of fun, as we engaged in a tacking
duel coming up from the bottom mark off Salem. A classic
confrontation with them starting in front, but us breaking their
cover and sneaking ahead. In all the fun, however, we failed
to notice that Smoke was off by herself and had made up
some ground. So we had to ease off Jazz to get back towards
the middle. Managed to cover both as we were all converging on
the line, and nipped Jazz by 12 seconds; Smoke by 30 or
so seconds. A good time was had by all, although during the
ride home we had a lively debate about covering the boats to beat.
;)
|
845.411 | Take 'em out Bo | AKOV11::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 13 1990 17:19 | 11 |
| Dean, I wasn't on board this weekend. Had some pre-marriage stuff
going on in New Orleans. We needed to win and did. But now we are
faced with a real problem. We are planning to go down to the NOOD this
upcoming weekend and are looking forward to it. However, Claddagh and
us are neck and neck for the summer series, and we don't want to give
them a chance to get ahead on points.
So what's my point? KICK THEIR BUTT THIS WEEKEND. And put about six
boats between you and Claddagh. ;^)
Dave
|
845.412 | Never mind | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Aug 14 1990 14:33 | 11 |
| After computing the results so far for the summer series, I changed my
conclusion. If we don't race (which we aren't since we'll be in
Newport) Claddagh will win by at least the nine point lead she holds
right now, we'll be second and Bo will be third. Not that we don't
want Bo to blow the doors off Claddagh, ;^), but it won't do us any
good.
Leaving for Newport 9:00 Wednesday night, looking to arrive 1:00 in the
afternoon the next day. Looking forward to the trip and the weekend!
Dave
|
845.413 | A "blow out" | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Mon Aug 20 1990 12:07 | 23 |
| Nice racing yesterday -- real ocean-going stuff.
A strong NE wind to 27 knots, with seas building to
8 feet and ocaisionally breaking.
We had some trouble at the start getting our #3 hoisted and
ended up *3-minutes* late for the line! However, we
went right when the fleet went inshore, and a 25 degree
header allowed us to tack and converge on the faster starboard
tack. We had a very close crossing with Claddagh. Quite
something to see your competition's bow rising 6 feet in the
air and coming down about 4-feet from your stern! With seas
like that and gusting wind, was a little close for comfort,
but exciting!
After rounding, the big win was a spinnaker hoist while
the remainder of the fleet held genoas. Thought sure
Claddagh would follow suit, but they let us go. A few surfs
to 13 or so, a dog-leg reach, and the last weather leg
was poetry. We powered away under the #3 and full main.
Doesn't help our summer standings (or does it Dave?) but
good results towards overall, and just a fantastic time.
Dean
|
845.414 | NOOD '90 ... a mixed bag | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Mon Aug 20 1990 17:28 | 97 |
| Just returned from a week of cruising and racing in the NOOD. It was
quite a week. Our adventure started Monday night while delivering Wags
to Newport by way of Provincetown, when a minor miscalculation on the
part of yours truly put us on the beach at Race Point (yup, time to say
"Oh sh!t" in a big way). The CG had to pull us off the beach, but
fortunately we got off with nothing more serious than a severe wet
sanding job to our keel and the reopening of a minor crack in the hull
at the aft end of the keel. After diving down and inspecting the
damage we decided it wasn't serious enough to warrant changing our
plans, and we continued to Newport making stops in Onset, Padanarum,
and Westport.
Upon arrival we found out that we were the only J/36 in the regatta
this year, and they put us in the 37-foot class with the Tripp 37's and
Peterson 37's. That seemed reasonable to us, since all three boats
rate the same. There were four Tripps and two Petersons and us in the
fleet.
Friday was a complete bust, as the race committee was determined that
all races would be held offshore. So they sent us out of the harbor
in fog so thick that many boats had a difficult time finding the
starting line. After bobbing around for three hours they cancelled
the race, and the fleet started back in. Once around the point and
into the bay, we emerged from the fog into a bright, sunny day and
fine sailing weather. Most boats decided to sail around for a while,
and some even set up informal races amongst themselves.
Personally I feel that the RC really blew it, since just about
everybody in Newport could have predicted that the fog would burn off
inside, and we could have raced if the RC hadn't been so stubborn about
not wanting to race in the bay.
Saturday we had moderately strong (16-28 kt) southwesterly breezes and
heavy seas. The RC set up two windward/leeward races, about 8 miles
each. The first race was not a good one for Wags. We had a bad start
and ended up having to tack away for clear air. This put us out of
phase with the wind shifts, and we quickly found ourselves in catch-up
mode. Also, it became obvious that with the pounding seas we could not
go upwind as well as the heavier Tripps and Petersons. However,
downwind turned out to be our strong suit as we were able to sail lower
and faster than the other boats in our fleet. Just as we were starting
to make some headway on the fleet, though, we had trouble with our
spinnaker take-down and fell behind again. We ended up in 4th place
for the race.
The second race we were a little smarter and took a 2nd. However,
before the race, two of the Tripps took themselves out of the regatta
with a bone-jarring (and fiberglass splintering) collision that caused
heavy damage to one and minor damage to the other. Fortunately no one
was injured.
Sunday the wind had shifted around to the northeast at 24-30 kts, and
the seas were very choppy. The RC took us even further offshore so they
could set a course with an upwind start. Once again, it was a
windward/leeward course, about 6 miles in length. The seas were so
rough it took the comedy boat over an hour to set anchor. Finally the
race got off. On the first downwind leg we witnessed one of the most
amazing broaches I have ever seen. We had to avoid the starting line
on the way to the leeward mark, making the pin end of the starting line
somewhat like a gybe mark. Io, a J/33, tried to harden up as they
passed the pin, and put their entire mast in the water. We could see
rooster-tails off their top spreaders, and both sides of the keel were
visible. I frankly didn't think they were coming back up, but somehow
they did. It must have shook up a lot of people on other boats, because
several chose to dump their chute and go bare-headed to the mark rather
than harden up and reach with the chute. We had (wisely) left up our jib
to depower the chute, and made up a lot on the fleet by simply dumping
our chute and going with the jib as we passed the pin end of the
starting line. The second time around we noticed that every boat in
our fleet did likewise. We nearly ended up getting T-boned by a Tripp
called Kamikaze. It was your basic port-starboard and their main
trimmer failed to let out his sheet as they tried to duck us so they
rounded up right into us. Fortunately, our main trimmer was awake and
we ended up getting out of their way. We decided not to protest, since
we already had 2nd place sowed up and it would have served no useful
purpose. We beat them across the line and ended up taking second place
overall in our fleet. First overall went to a Tripp named Troll-Fjord.
I'd give this year's NOOD regatta a "C+". The racing, such as it was,
was exciting due to the wind and wave conditions. I was not overly
impressed with the RC, since their determination to have the races
offshore caused no races on Friday, and the cancellation of the second
race on Sunday. Bay racing would have been preferable to no racing.
Also, sponsorship has fallen off from previous years and we ended up
getting less for our money than last season. But I would go again,
although I don't think they'll invite us back next season since there
isn't a J/36 fleet anymore. Guess that's the problem with racing a
boat that's been out of production for a few years.
The boat's on its way back now, and when it gets to Beverly we'll have
to haul her and fix the keel before the PHRF New Englands next
week-end (which I'll be racing on Bodacious). Dean, nice to hear you
guys beat Claddagh yesterday. Kinda wish I'd have been there, but I
had a blast getting beat up in the waves down in Newport.
... Bob
|
845.415 | NOODling | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 20 1990 19:39 | 40 |
| We brought Wildside down to the NOOD last Wednesday night. Left M'head
at 9:30 PM and got into Newport at 1:00 PM the next day. Beautiful
sail! Averaged almost seven knots the whole way.
Like Bob said, the committee blew it Friday sending us offshore into
the fog. On the way in, four of the Class 40 boats (our class, since
they only got 5 One Tonners and not the requisite six to have our own
class ;^( ) decided to set up practice races in the outer harbor.
Turned out to be the most fun we had all weekend. Bright sun, ten
Knots of breeze, serious racing, all for the hell of it!
Saturday was great fun, but we realized that we are really trimmed out
for light to moderate breeze. Pulse and Ragtime, much newer One
Tonners just had a pant load mor speed up the breeze than we did. Off
the wind we had a great time surfing and timing our jibes to be going
down waves to unload the boat as much as possible. Finished in seventh
place after two races out of fifteen. Not many laggards in that fleet!
We did have one broach when we jibed and hit the back of the wave in
front of us. I hadn't cleated down the runner and had it in my hand.
To let go was to lose the rig so I dangled from the runner tail while
being dragged through the water yelling at our crew to grind back the
after guy! I swear my pants were only wet from the salt water, but my
crew says otherwise.
Sunday we went back out to the starting line, saw it was blowing
thirty, made a management decision and went back to have some bloodies
at the Black Pearl. Who needs it? By the time we had brunch, three
boats from our fleet of Class 40s were back in the harbor with split
mains, travellers pulled out of the deck, numerous destroyed chutes,
and generally bad attitudes. Don't feel like we missed anything.
We'll go back, but not until we get the boat as fast as some of the
newer One Tonners. Also, we need our own start. We had a weight limit
of 1890 lbs. of crew as Tonners, but had to drop that to 1720 as a
Class 40! One of our crew had to go home! That didn't improve our
mood at all. Anyway, Bob is right grading the regatta as a C+. But
Newport really is a blast!
Dave
|
845.416 | Adventure at the PHRF Champs | STEREO::HO | | Mon Aug 27 1990 16:21 | 63 |
| This season's Digital Sailing Notes get-together took place this past
weekend, not at Misery Island as in the past, but Aboard Scott Wagner's
Benteau 325 "Adventure". Scott and his all Dec-star crew (musta been 9 or
so of us) sailed "Adventure" in the class 6 of the New England PHRF
championships. At 141 "Adventure" rated near the faster end of the class
along with several old model C&C 34's, other smaller C&C's, an Olson 30,
and another Beneteau. Saturday's brisk air and choppy seas saw a 13/23
finish. Not bad for a pick crew. Because of the scheduled race on my own
boat, I missed that one. Ironically, because of seasickness, crew
cancellations, and general malaise, I wound up missing my own race too. Oh
well, the yard needed some cleaning up anyway.
Sunday started out quite a bit differently. Flat seas, no wind, decent
visibility instead of the rain, fog, wind, and chop of Saturday. Stayed
that way for about 2 hours before a light southeaster filled in. The race
committee set a windward leeward twice around course. With only about 5
knots of wind, there wasn't enough horsepower for the usual pre-race
maneuvering and wind readings. Scott elected not to stray too far from the
line and, instead, picked his spot on the line and went for it slowly,
feathering and footing to eat up time and keep the leeward boats in check.
It worked and we had a front row seat at the gun. For some inexplicable
reason the RC immediatly postponed the race and we all went back. Not
seeing the general recall flag, I suspected a wind shift but they didn't
repost the course heading. At the next sequence, Scott tried the same
play. We had good position on the line but were a few seconds ahead of
where we should have been. Feathering killed some of the momentum and
boats around us crossed the line with better speed at the gun.
We held on Starboard as the boats ahead of us and those to weather tacked
to port to follow the wind that was clocking right. As the leftmost boat,
we soon sailed into a band of air that gave a speed advantage as we tacked
to rejoin the fleet most of whom had gone way right. We gained perceptably
sailing along at the edge of the wind band over all the boats to leeward
who probably had half the air we did. They eventually figured out what was
going on and, one by one, tacked over to head left. The wind at this point
also started shifting left leaving a clear wind line on the water on the
left side. Less than confident about our ability to crisply tack the boat
we elected to stay right and go the layline thereby saving one tack. We
did that and promptly sailed out of the good wind. Hitting what we thought
was the layline, we got headed, then sat upon by my old boat Voyager who
had gone left and gained. So we wound up doing the extra tacks anyway,
except in lighter air.
The shift in the wind was now apparent as we set the chute. What should
have been a run turned into a beam reach. Pleasant sailing but no
oppurtunity for tactical gains. At the takedown mark the RC posted a new
windward heading 25 deg left of the old course. We went right, and being
aborbed in sail adjustments, forgot where we were and almost sailed into
the big boat line before someone noticed that we were abeam of a mark and
an RC boat. Had to be ours so we tacked for it. We layed it with one more
tack and mercifully finished just before "Orphan Annie" who was in the next
class. It was such a short line some of the boats in the later classes
stalled themselves out completly as they tried to shoot it all at once.
Must have been amusing on the committee boat to see all those boats
drifting out of control right next to them. At that point the RC ended the
race since air was lightening and there wasn't time for another leg. It
looked like about 7 boats crossing ahead but the RC PC is still digesting
the final results. We beat the other Beneteau but, my personal targets,
the two old C&C34's finished a country mile ahead. Darn! We had decent
crew work even for a pickup crew. A little more attention to the compass
oscillations and telltales and we coulda had 'em.
-gene
|
845.417 | it wasn't my idea of fun ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Mon Aug 27 1990 16:47 | 11 |
| Not too much to say about the PHRF New England's, except that for the
third consecutive year the regatta left me with a sour attitude about
racing, and racers, at this level. In the top classes it still is the
case that the pros win, the sea lawyers break the rules with impunity,
and the big fleets generally bring out the worst in people.
As much as I love racing sailboats, next year I think when the PHRF New
Englands roll around I'm going cruising.
... Bob
|
845.418 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Mon Aug 27 1990 17:36 | 28 |
| re -.1 (open note to Bob Bailey)
Bob,
I'm sorry you came away feeling that way. I know
we got hyper, but your observation about pro sailors was
the animus. We just wanted to beat Doyle right there on
the course. You've got to admit, that "slam dunk" was one
of the more satisfying moments of the season. I just
wish I'd seen the "fist pounding." Of course, we pushed
too hard after that, and the result was we blew our slim lead
by taking a foolish flyer. With that, some of the later
flair-ups were out of frustration. That's not an excuse,
just an explanation...
We all get pressured. I have a tough time living down getting
blamed for going to the wrong side of the course, etc etc.
But somehow I keep coming back for more, and I hope you do
too. Bob, you're an excellent sailor -- for reasons that have
little to do with knowing how to trim sails or plot courses --
although I wouldn't fault your skill with the former,
and the latter I'm sure will improve... ;)
We've enjoyed your company on Bo *tremendously* -- make no mistake
about that!
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.419 | What is This? PHRF's version of Twin Peaks? | STEREO::HO | | Mon Aug 27 1990 17:57 | 9 |
| Oh-oh.
A downbeat report from Bob, silence from Dave, apologies from Dean. Us
armchair racers are obviously missing out on some high seas drama.
Must have run out of drinks at the club or something equally serious.
What gives. Don't worry. Alan will delete all the libelous replies
before we get sued.
- gene
|
845.420 | whatever happened to sportsmanship ??? | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Tue Aug 28 1990 09:15 | 61 |
| Actually my down-beat report had little to do with the sailing on Bo'
this week-end, although we did have some tense moments near the end of
yesterday's race. That is a natural effect of racing against guys like
Robbie Doyle, especially when you find yourself in a close race. It
is frustrating to see someone like him take a boat that normally has
trouble getting out of it's own way, and winning the big races with it.
Last season it was pretty much the same, only a different pro on a
different boat.
However, lest you think I'm just whining, it was very satisfying to see
him pound his fist into the deck yesterday when we lee-bowed him and
proceeded to accelerate right into his air, forcing him to tack away.
I doubt I'll ever be able to compete successfully against sailors of
his experience anyway, so losing a close one to Mr. Doyle is a victory
unto itself.
We had both good and bad moments on Bo' this week-end. That's yacht
racing, and such as it was I enjoyed it. Much of my feeling about this
week-end's event comes from past experiences, coupled with what happened
to Wags (again) this year.
Those of you who have sailed on Wags know that Dick Wagner is a skipper
who places great emphasis on having fun and being a sportsman. Also,
that he avoids protests like the plague, even when it's not in his best
interest to do so. When he hoists his protest flag it is simply
because he honestly feels some idiot has put his boat and crew in
physical danger, something which is not an integral part of the sport.
For the third season in a row he got hosed by someone who doesn't give a
damn about sportsmanship or basic boating safety ... someone who played
games with the rules and laughed in his face as they were walking out of
the protest room. This time, the skipper of the offending boat brought
a "witness" to the protest room to testify on his behalf. Only problem
was, this "witness" was on a boat in a different fleet, couldn't have
possibly been within sight of the incident, and coincidentally dates
one of Zoot's crew. How the RC allows people to get away with such
blatant disregard for the rules is truly astounding.
If this were an isolated incident it would be easy to just shrug it off
and forget it. But it seems too common these days ... and these kind
of incidents seem to be more prevalent in events like the PHRF NE
Championships, where the prestige of the event brings out all the big
names. What ever happened to sportsmanship, let alone simple
observation of the USYRU rule book (or, as Alan has recently pointed
out in another note, the observation of Colregs).
I love this sport, and devote a lot of time to it. But when it ceases
to be fun, when it ceases to be something where you can show a little
honor and sportsmanship to your competition, then it's time to find
something else to do. Because that's when it ceases to be competitive
and starts to take on an aspect that reflects the ugly side of human
nature. I get too much of that in the business world. I don't need it
in the things I choose to do when I play.
I firmly hold to the old adage, it isn't important whether you win or
lose, it's how you play the game that counts. At the upper levels at
least, this concept seems to be losing it's appeal to the yacht racer.
Or am I just deluding myself into believing it was ever there ???
... Bob
|
845.421 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Tue Aug 28 1990 09:54 | 5 |
| Bob,
Sounds like you should race E-22's. I know of one for sale ....
|
845.422 | One Design = fun racing... | MFGMEM::TRAINOR | I can't see the lawn for the trees. | Tue Aug 28 1990 10:46 | 18 |
| I agree with Paul. Bob, get away from racing that says the boat with
the best electronics wins. I started out racing one designs (Lasers),
took the plunge into PHRF and IOR, and now have decided one design is
the way to go, since I'm now racing J-24's with Paul.
We have the competition of the "big whigs", but it isn't always the guy
with the most expensive toy that wins. Take for example, Jeff Moore.
He won the J-24 North American Championships in a 12 year old boat that
he practically saved from the junk yard. But, this weekend we soundly
beat him in a Naragansett Bay race in Barrington R.I. Now that's fun.
I race week after week and there isn't one time that I can truely say
that I wasn't having fun, yet I think back to the times when I was
racing PHRF and IOR and mostly the bad times stick out, when I wasn't
having fun.
Get back to the basics, race one design.
Charlie
|
845.423 | Half a note.. | AKOV11::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Aug 28 1990 11:18 | 23 |
| Alright. No more silence.
First, I can't believe Gene is selling Touche. Think carefully about
it. Sounds like you had bad crew problems this year and this weekend
in particular. All it takes is two crew, and I'm sure you could work
on that over the winter. Give me a call.
Second, why is it that Wags always gets the short end of these things?
We had nothing but spirited, good humored fun out there with some of
the closest racing I've been involved with in some time. We love to
play with the big boys in these regattas. Makes us feel good to beat
some of 'em. Plus, you can't expect to do great in a fleet that good
just by showing up.
Third, NOBODY had a more frustrating weekend than we did. The boat had
engine problems and did not make it up here for Saturday's race in
spite of a full court press to get it fixed in Newport by Friday
afternoon. Saturday killed us not to be out there. We did get it here
at six in the morning Sunday after a bonzai delivery from Newport.
Gotta run more in a little bit.
Dave
|
845.424 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Tue Aug 28 1990 12:03 | 38 |
| RE .422
Charlie, while I get your drift, my message wasn't about fancy boats or
instruments ... it was about sportsmanship, or the lack of same.
Perhaps the one-design fleets have fewer chances to use rule-beating
tactics on each other, I don't know. I'm not about to give up on
racing, but it does bother me when I see situations where people look
to win by beating the rules rather than the competition.
RE .423
Wags isn't the only boat that ends up on the short end of situations
like the one I described ... merely the one I'm most qualified to talk
about. As to your comment about expecting to win by simply showing up,
I believe we passed Wildside enough times last season for you to be
aware that Wags is a pretty well-sailed boat, and doesn't go out there
expecting to win by simply showing up. Wags is in a different class
than your boat, and takes their racing much less seriously. That
doesn't imply a lack of effort on their part, as the season-to-date
racing results will bear out.
As to your third point that nobody had a more frustrating week-end than
you guys, I'll simply point out that your frustrations were pretty much
self-inflicted. I was talking about frustrations that were brought on
by competitors looking to gain advantage by bending or breaking the
rules we're supposed to be observing while participating in a race, not
frustrations brought on by equipment failures or simple bad breaks.
Nobody loves close competition more than I do, I just want to compete
in a sport where honesty and sportsmanship mean something.
My note had nothing to do with winning or losing, simply the behavior I
observe in major regattas like the PHRF New Englands, as opposed to the
more normal regattas that you and I usually participate in where these
kind of incidents occur with less frequency and have much less impact
on the actual outcome of the event.
... Bob
|
845.425 | The rest of the story | AKOV11::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Aug 28 1990 12:08 | 59 |
| Back to it.
When we did get out to race on Sunday the frustrations built even more.
After busting butts to get the boat up, it looked for a while like the
breeze would never fill in enough to get a race started. After a
couple of hours, the southeasterly did begin to fill in and a race got
off.
We had a good start and tacked off to the right. We hadn't gone very
far when we saw a breeze line to the left and tacked over to it. Just
like Gene, we should have sat in it longer as the boats that went way
left made out. We rounded the first upwind mark in 7th out of 15.
The course was five legs. Windward/leeward/w/l/w. The downwind leg
was a blast as we took the fast lane, went a bit higher than most,
passed the one tonner Legende and caught up with Scherezade when the
wind headed us to allow us to come back down to the rhumb line without
jibing. Rounded in 5th.
Fought our way up wind to round the next windward mark in fourth. In
front of us were: Taylor Anne, a Frers 41 skippered by Judd Smith,
Coalition, with Mark Lindsay, Jim Taylor and Steve Cruise from Doyle
aboard, and Scherezade with nobody special aboard, just their regular
great crew.
Taylor Anne and Coalition started a jibing duel immediately in the
light air that took them farther in toward shore away from the breeze.
What great luck! Scherezade jibed toward the mark at what looke to us
to be a slow angle. We hung on a bit longer, got a lift and jibed
immediately coming to the mark at a great angle. While Scherezade was
struggling to make the mark without jibing, we were screaming in
(relatively).
Just before we get to the mark, the stake boat crosses in front of us
going about 20 knots, throwing up a huge wake. We're really pissed,
but it is apparent they are trying to set a finish line. They're
shortening course and we're going to win!
Ofcourse not. They couldn't get the anchor down in time, so we round
and head back upwind to the finish in front of the fleet. Coalition
and Judd on Taylor Anne are right behind us and Scherezade. We and
Scherherezade play the lifts and sail up the middle. Judd goes left.
WAY left out of sight. Coalition goes right. WAY right.
At the finish Judd comes screaming in from the left for a first.
Coalition comes in from the right for a second. Scherherezade and
Wildside take the pipe by covering eachother. Didn't matter at all
what side you went to, just so you banged a corner. We let a couple of
other boats come in from the corners and end up with a sixth out of
fifteen.
We were very happy to beat the stuffing out of the Newport One Tonners,
and fealt we had done a reasonably good job against the big guys. If
only we had been there the whole time...
Bob, nobody's holding a gun to your head making you do this awful stuff
on your weekends ;^)
Dave
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845.426 | Bad sportsmanship drove me out | ULTRA::WITTENBERG | Secure Systems for Insecure People | Tue Aug 28 1990 12:14 | 24 |
| I found a real problem with the lack of sportsmanship in college
racing, which sometimes resemble bumber cars, and in the laser
fleet, which I no longer race much in.
People in lasers were always pushing well past the rules, and this
behaviour was getting worse. The last regatta I sailed in I was
going along on starboard tack late in the next to last race, and
the guy who was leading the regatta was trying to cross me on
port. When it became clear that he couldn't cross (he still had
time to crash tack) he rocked the boat 8-10 times to get up enough
speed to cross me. I protested, and he admitted rocking the boat
but argued about how often. Rocking is illegal, so he DSQ'd the
race. It was his worst race of the series anyway, so the DSQ
didn't matter, as there was a throwout.
It was that sort of blatant foul that caused me to lose interest
in racing lasers. Similar things happened in other very
competetive classes like 470s.
Now I race in somewhat less competitive classes, but at least
everyone out there is reasonably sportsmanlike, so it's much more
fun.
--David
|
845.427 | Can he throw that out? | GENRAL::GREIST | | Tue Aug 28 1990 12:29 | 11 |
| > time to crash tack) he rocked the boat 8-10 times to get up enough
> speed to cross me. I protested, and he admitted rocking the boat
> but argued about how often. Rocking is illegal, so he DSQ'd the
> race. It was his worst race of the series anyway, so the DSQ
> didn't matter, as there was a throwout.
I thought a DSQ for violation of the propulsion rule was not allowed as a
throwout. ??
Al
|
845.428 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Tue Aug 28 1990 13:39 | 36 |
| RE .426
Ah, your example is precisely the type of thing I'm talking about.
Now, imagine how you'd have felt if instead of rocking his boat he
simply sailed right at your beam and left it up to you to get out of
his way. How would you feel if brought in a "witness" to the protest
room to testify that you altered course prematurely, and then laughed
about pulling one over on the RC on the way out of the protest room.
THEN you'd understand why this sort of thing makes me angry. That
ain't racing, that's lawyering. Not to mention dishonest and
unsportsmanlike.
Port-starboard situations are commonplace, and when the port
tacker completely ignores you and continues to point his bow right at
you, how are you gonna know if he'll bear off at the last second or
simply plow right into you? That's what I mean by a dangerous
situation. How many racers do you know who'd hold their course rather
than take evasive action, even though they have the right-of-way.
RE .425
Dave, would you be so flippant if a port-tacker plowed into your boat
and knocked your rig down in your face? Gonna try to tell me it
doesn't happen? I saw it happen last week, and last year it happened
at the PHRF New Englands ... ever hear of a Frers 33 named Hot Spur?
Wanna go ask their bowman how much fun it was to have his collarbone
broken in a port-starboard situation where he was on the boat with
right-of-way? Now you wanna suggest again it only happens to Wags?
Nobody's holding a gun to my head. Nobody's gonna convince me it's all
part of the game either. And nobody's gonna tell me I can't talk about
it in here ... to ignore it is to condone it. And to condone it is to
make the sport less than it should be.
... Bob
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845.429 | | MFGMEM::TRAINOR | I can't see the lawn for the trees. | Tue Aug 28 1990 14:15 | 16 |
| I don't mean to imply that everyone who races one design does so
fairly, but it is my impression that there is less room for cheating.
I agree with Dave W. in that I too saw some interresting means of
propulsion while racing my Laser, but I feel that as the cost of the
boats that are competing increases and the amount of prestige in
winning a certain race increases and the amount of knowledge to sail a
specific boat decreases, the incentive to cheat becomes much more
appealin. We too see the crazy crash tacks and just plain crashes.
However, I can't imagine the wording to a rule that would imply that
everyone on the race course must use their "God given" morals. I don't
think that missing a particular race because there might be cheaters,
is going to help the situation short of possibly preventing unnecessary
damage to one's self and one's property. Eliminate the need to be
first and you will eliminate the cheaters IMHO.
Charlie
|
845.430 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Tue Aug 28 1990 14:26 | 21 |
| Bob,
Sounds like you may have a good case for an appeal.
We had a port/starboard case in our fleet last year. The port tack
boat won the protest mainly because the starboard tack skipper was
not well liked. The protest comittee put the burden of proof on the
starboard tack boat - this is wrong. The starboard tack skipper
appealed and won. The "good ol' boys" looked pretty silly when their
decision was overturned and criticized.
If you can show reasonable doubt about a possible collision, the burden
is on the port tacker to prove conclusively otherwise. You felt the
port tack witness was to far away to see what happened - can you find
a witness to discredit him? What hails were exchanged?
If you're right and you can prove it - appeal! The results of protests
are influenced heavily by reputations. Build a reputation as someone
who demands a proper decision.
Paul
|
845.431 | Jerks are jerks | AKOV11::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Aug 28 1990 14:40 | 17 |
| Easy Bob, only kidding.
Why didn't Wags bring his own witness into the meeting? We always get
a witness first thing. Plus, we WILL hit someone who ignores our hail.
Most of our fleet askes "tack or cross". We will often let a port
tacker cross if he is going the way we want him to go.
Jerks are jerks, but you have to establish yourself as someone not to
be fooled with. If that means gelcoat, and injury isn't likely, then a
lesson will be learned.
Dave
PS Bob, ofcourse you have the right to ventilate. And I have the right
to disagree with you. Doesn't mean I don't like you.
|
845.432 | | CHEFS::GOUGHP | Pete Gough | Wed Aug 29 1990 05:52 | 8 |
| re : -1 If you are serious that you would hit someone you are in
contravention of the collision regs and it can only harm the pastime we
all care about.
Pete
PS I have raced in the USA as well as UK but for the last ten years
have been doing the odd club race else cruising.......
|
845.433 | | ULTRA::WITTENBERG | Secure Systems for Insecure People | Wed Aug 29 1990 08:33 | 15 |
| I'm not sure that one-designs are cleaner than bigger boats. It
seems that when you get near the top there are people who don't
care about the rules anymore. There were cases a few years ago in
the 470 class where someone threw his weight jacket overboard to
try to avoid it being weighed (He was over the wet clothes
allowance.) There was also a case where someone used two different
jibs in a regatta where the rules allowed only one (This was a
standard 470 class rule, not a wierd one in the sailing
instructions. They were used to racing under that rule.)
There are of course top sailors who obey the rules carefully, and
I have a great deal of respect for them, but I'm beginning to
think that they are the minority.
--David
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845.434 | Soddem don't know sailboat racing | MFGMEM::TRAINOR | I can't see the lawn for the trees. | Wed Aug 29 1990 09:50 | 24 |
| RE:
< There are of course top sailors who obey the rules carefully, and
< I have a great deal of respect for them, but I'm beginning to
< think that they are the minority.
David, I have to disagree with you. The dishonest racers tend to be
"fly-by-night" racers, and in one design racing their infractions are
usually only regarding one race. They are also easily caught. In PHRF
if a racer alters his boat to get a favorable rating certificate, the
repercussions can last for a whole season. But, theses are not the type
of sailors that Bob is referring to. The type that he is talking about
are life threatening and basically act like Soddem Hussein on the race
course, with total lack of respect for anyone else, never mind the rules.
I believe they are truly a minority. I find that many of the one design
racers are educated on where to expect the wind to shift, how to set the
rigging correctly, and basically how to sail fast. Their boats aren't
tax write-offs and they race because they like to race. That last line
can't be said about boat owners who own boats that cost in excess of
$200,000 to buy and thousands to maintain annually.
What's the old saying - cheaters never win and winners never cheat....
Charlie
|
845.435 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Wed Aug 29 1990 10:03 | 14 |
| re .432
While racing, you're allowed to hit another boat (while you have the
right of way) if it doesn't result in serious damage. A better word
than "hit" or "crash" is contact. If the boats are traveling parallel
courses, the contact force is usually small. A port/starboard convergence
is another story.
I've made contact with eight boats so far this season. The only damage
has been a bent lifeline stantion on a port/starboard situation. I've
also altered course (while in the right) many times to avoid bad
collisions.
Paul
|
845.436 | | CHEFS::GOUGHP | Pete Gough | Wed Aug 29 1990 10:13 | 4 |
| And I was naive enough to think that the coll regs took precedence over
all other regs..........
Pete
|
845.437 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed Aug 29 1990 11:22 | 42 |
| Rule 36. It's the shortest one in the book. Port keeps clear of
Starboard - period. I would think that this one would be pretty
easy to observe or adjudicate in a protest but it's never been that way
in real life. And anyone who has been in a close port-starboard
situation knows why. Three options: cross, tack, or duck. A
microsecond to chose and maybe a second or two to execute. If you
don't already have a strategy firmly planted in your mind and all the
crew motions hard wired, you're in trouble. In fact both port and
starboard are in trouble. Starboard's supposed to hold course according
to rule 35 but the prospect of getting T-boned can quickly overwhelm
any pickiness about rule adherence. Of course, once that happens both
parties have grounds for protesting each other and what was black and
white is now a murky gray.
Bob, I can empathize with the funk you're in. Nothing worse than
getting stiffed and seeing them get away with it. Sometimes in the
genteel world of yacht racing the real protest hearing takes place in
the parking lot. I've had a few of those. If nothing else, I felt a
lot better afterwards. In one memorable case, it helped. The cowboy
got tired of the confrontations and eventually sold his boat.
Getting back to port-starboard. Remember NOOD two years ago. Same two
boats Wags and High Zoot. Wags thought he could cross, High Zoot
didn't. Wags held on Port, HZ tacked (thank God!). Wags accused HZ of
altering course, HZ accused Wags of trying to sink him. There were
witnesses around. Coulda been a contentious protest if Wags hadn't
done a 720. The same thing happened a month ago on a Wed. night race.
In both cases it was too many choices with too many people involved in
too little time. Basically not enough hard nosed closed course racing
experience aboard. If you don't see these situations all the time you
won't know how to avoid getting trouble. The decision in this
situation can go either way. One side will always feel that it was
cheated. The only way to avoid this is to have a firm game plan about
which way you want to go beforehand and to resist the temptation to do
a leebow just because the opportunity is there.
Above all, discuss the situation with the other side afterwards.
Somtimes they're gonna be turkeys, but usually something can be learned
by both. It won't affect the current protest results but maybe in the
future there will be a little more curtesy on the course.
- gene
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845.438 | New Englands: just a larger model... | MILKWY::WAGNER | | Wed Aug 29 1990 12:56 | 38 |
|
A few other hard realities, paralleling some of these situations:
PHRF attracts the gamut from cruising AND racing. It's designed that
way. Gets more boats together; creates fleets that wouldn't be there
otherwise. However, as has been sprinkled in this note, American Sailor
mag, etc.etc is the concern of MIR's. (marine industry racers). Like
Robbie Doyle, Jud Smith, Jack Slattery, etc. Now beside their talents,
and helping/hurting the sport etc, when I know some hotshot is helming
a boat, not the owner, there's a little extra tension knowing that he
has no real punisment for holing me, or whatever. I try to stand my
ground, when it IS mine, but, hey, face it, who's got pockets that
deep? And while the rulebook makes it pretty clear to me that
collisions are something to be avoided at all costs, when a racer from
say, a Finn fleet (where you `bump' just to prove that it WAS gonna
happen) takes the helm of a 10+ ton vessel, damn straight that's in
the back of my mind. Guess the tactician has something else to write
down at the beginning of a race...
Oh well, I'm vented, and going back out to joust with ol' Bobby
Slattery on a Frers 41. Ain't even come close to unsportsmanlike, yet,
thank God! `Course, how much threat ARE we?
Oh, yeah, thanks, Gene for your coverage. Made us sound pretty Hot!
It was a full DEC crew, with Gene on deck, jibs and tactics, Geoff
Sampson on main and mast, Jeff Harbison on foredeck, John and Connie
Whitcraft on Genoas, Colleen Lannon on deck and downwind helm, and
Ray Drueke on tactics and u-name-it! Pretty good results from a crew
that never saw the boat before the first race. Which, BTW, had a moving
finish line! Or so we thought. In the RC's fine wisdom, they tossed
the first race for the second-liners. Grrrr.
Now the Globe knew talent! We showed up in living color on Monday's
sports page!!
In the fine tradition of WAGS, do we take it all next year, huh, Mr.
Bailey?? Hoho! Thanks for your help, and if ya wanna drop down a few
sizes, the lifeline pelican's always unsnapped for you.
Thanks to all my DEC crew; let's do it again!
Scott.
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845.439 | We're not idiots | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Aug 29 1990 14:36 | 33 |
| Back to my earlier statement that we will hit an offending port tacker.
That is probably tru in that we assume they have a plan and expect us
to hold course. If it looks like major damage will occur or injury is
likely we would avoid as best possible. However, just saying you had
to alter course to avoid collision doesn't buy much in the protest room
and encourages further behavior on the part of the offender.
Any damage gets paid for by the guy in the wrong. Cara (a Swan
fifty-something) took out our lifeline stanchions along on whole side
and dragged us backwards at five knots inflicting fiberglass damage.
He was wrong and he paid. In Block Island a couple of years ago we got
t-boned at the start. We were in the right and the other guy had a
hell of a repair bill.
We try VERY hard never to play chicken while we are on the wrong side
of the rules. But if we're in the right, we have to assume the other
guy knows what he's doing.
Re: -.1 Jack Slattery protested the third race of the NE's because of
the time limit (and because Wired did well the first day and not the
second). Do you know how that turned out?
Dave
P.S. About the MIR issue. In the NE's acouple of years ago we had Tim
Woodhouse of Hood Sails as tactician. Taylor Anne had Jud Smith.
Approaching the windward mark on port we tried (at Tim's urging) to
sqeeze in front of the starboard tacker Taylor Anne to get around the
mark in first place instead of an easy second place rounding. Thank
God Jud headed up and didn't take off our transom. He protested us for
tacking too close and won, costing us the series as it turned out. We
would have never done that on our own and used that as the basis for
our rule that the MIR can suggest, but the owners decide.
|
845.440 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Wed Aug 29 1990 14:57 | 20 |
| Re 434
Charlie,
There's a guy named Dennis Conner who allegedly juggled ballast
on Williwaw in the '81 SORC. Although it didn't get
big press, as I recall -- 'cause it was DC -- I'm pretty
sure they were thrown out. At least, that was the "skinny"
on the docks in Nassau.
And what about the America's Cup??!!!
Hey, we kick off the Mrblhd Fall series this weekend,
with Wildside out front but not out of reach, and Claddagh
and Bo in the thick of the hunt. I'm pretty psyched!!
Good boats to mix it up with!!!
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.441 | Gene don't sell that boat... | MFGMEM::TRAINOR | I can't see the lawn for the trees. | Wed Aug 29 1990 17:14 | 28 |
| RE:
< There's a guy named Dennis Conner who allegedly juggled ballast
< on Williwaw in the '81 SORC. Although it didn't get
< big press, as I recall -- 'cause it was DC -- I'm pretty
< sure they were thrown out. At least, that was the "skinny"
< on the docks in Nassau.
Dean, most of the designers of these boats are rule benders. The idea is
to modify your design so that it is slightly different, hopefully faster,
than the other designs, so that the sailor doesn't have to truly sail to
win. Think about it. How much more comforting is it to win a race with a
faster designed boat than to win by lying through your teeth in the protest
room. I say neither is "fair sailing".
< And what about the America's Cup??!!!
I also wouldn't call the America's Cup boats "one-design" by the fairest
definition of the term. To me, one-design means just that. The boats that
are racing are as close to each other in design and build as is currently
possible with the present technology. The tolerances of the variables
shouldn't be significant enough to decide the outcome of a race. Don't you
race to prove that your ability to make your boat go forward is better than
the other guy's?
Charlie
(Hey Bob, is my unending tirade working? ONE DESIGN! ONE DESIGN!.....)
|
845.442 | Say...what happened to all that lead? | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Aug 29 1990 17:58 | 44 |
| Re: -.1
One design is a wonderful thing. Especially as applied in
intercollegiate sailing where you draw your boat by random luck.
That truly is where the best sailor shows. But I disagree that this is
the only goal, even in one design racing.
When you own your own boat you will push its competitive ability to the
absolute limits of the rule if you want to win on a regular basis.
Stars are one designs, but you can pick a used Star for $2500 or order
one from Germany brand new without rig or fittings for $30,000. They
are NOT the same. Part of the winning comes in selecting your platform
and preparing it to the best of your ability.
One design sailors are notorious for seeking the boat that comes the
closest to meeting the rule minimums. Even in the M'head Etchells
fleet some hulls are known to be faster than others independent of the
drivers (although the better sailors will gravitate toward the faster
boats).
Handicap rating racing isn't always great. Within the established
rules designers constantly try to come up with the fastest combination
of factors for a given rating. That is not breaking the rules any more
than optimizing your Star to the class rules is. It's irritating in
that at the top levels there are often significant improvements every
year requiring huge sums to be spent to remain competitive. But that is
what the grand prix types like, so let them have it.
True cheating in changing ballast after getting a rating and the like
is just that, cheating. There are spot inspections of rating
certificates and hulls at some regattas. That's how Williwaw was
caught. The owner was banned from racing for several years. DC did
not own the boat, merely drove it. And it wasn't covered up at all.
Made big news. The boat was sold to Sweden and became one of the Bla
Carat's.
We derive our pleasure from putting together a program that takes the
boat we have and make it go as well as we can. Last year we sailed it
terribly, and the results show it. We worked very hard to learn the
boat and now we are doing better. Without cheating, even. The point
is that one design does have its good points, but lack of over zealous
competitors cheating isn't one of them.
Dave
|
845.443 | It's All One Design | STEREO::HO | | Wed Aug 29 1990 19:32 | 47 |
| Charlie, I think your point about one design racing is well made but
the racing world is, to a degree, passing you by. Those who were at
the PHRF NE's this year and last year will remember that portable marks
were used to demarcate closed pattern courses - the same type used in
one design racing. In addtition, this year they used wing marks to
reduce the congestion at the windward mark on a windward - leeward
course. All this came about because of popular demand by the top crews
and skippers, many of whom were current or past one design racers.
This type of racing gives the crews a chance to exercise their boat
handling skills and greatly reduces the role chance plays in the
results.
The down side of this is, given the size and cost of the boats, there
is much more potential for disaster. On a course with government marks
where you just reach, reach, reach and where the handicap breaks spread
everyone out, who are you going to hit? On a two mile windward -
leeward, with the handicap breaks spanning only 10 seconds, and 20
boats in a class, you're doing collage dinghy racing in 10,000 lb
dinghies. It's for all intents and purposes, boat for boat one design
racing, just a lot more expensive.
While this can be more satisfying for those who have the skill to do
it, it can be unnerving or even dangerous for those who don't. Those
of us (probably most of those out there) who have come to the sport too
late in life to have paid our dues in optimist and widgeons have a
steep learning curve to surmount to learn to how close we can cut it in
a tight crossing situation. The hardest thing to learn is to avoid the
congestion altogether when possible. Those squeeze plays at the marks
rarely pay off. Intimidation on the course is usually a coverup for
ignorance. If you don't have a strategy, you're reduced to mixing it
up each time you encounter an opponent.
Improving the situation isnt't easy. We could all go back to the
reaching courses we used to curse the BYC committee for setting.
We could also go back to the invitation only format of the early PHRF
NE's. But that'd dry up the sponsorship which we've grown accustomed
to. And a lot of us wouldn't get the chance to participate. My guess
is the current recession will cure the problem. Fewer people will be
able to afford to compete which will thin out the fleets. As the Bozos
obliterate each others boats, only the better sailors will survive.
PHRF darwinism.
- gene
|
845.444 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Wed Aug 29 1990 21:30 | 27 |
| Gene I like your analysis ... same thing basically applies to the NOOD
too, where close encounters and protests abound. My initial point in
all this (before I started kvetching about rule beaters and lack of
sportsmanship) is basically that I think it brings out an element in
the sport that I don't necessarily like. Too many of those racers out
there last week-end really DON'T know how to deal with the close
encounters, and it encourages mishaps and people trying to find ways
out of them. It's kinda like driving in Boston traffic ... sure it can
be exciting, but not necessarily fun. Guess it's all a matter of what
you like.
One comment about letting a boat hit you ... there's just no way no how
anyone will ever convince Dick Wagner to intentionally let somebody hit
his boat, for ANY reason. He just doesn't think a sailboat race is
important enough to warrant the hassle of a boat repair. I agree
with him. Sometimes I think he finds himself in these situations
because his competition knows how he feels and they think they can
take advantage of it. Sometimes they're right. Unfortunate, but hey,
that's yacht racing.
Anyway, some interesting viewpoints. Didn't realize when I started
venting that it'd stimulate all this conversation. Guess I'm a born
boat-rocker ... :^)
... Bob
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845.445 | SPORTSMANSHIP???? | NYEM1::LEARY | FAIR DINKUM, SAIL TO OZ, MATE! | Thu Aug 30 1990 10:09 | 9 |
|
Whatever happened to GOOD sportsmanship, and the sense of fair play??
When I used to race, disputes and protests were settled at the bar over
a glass of whiskey, and repeat offenders were, in the Ammish sense,
shunned for the season by everyone in the Yacht Club.
I suppose that todays racing crew should consist of the local district
Attorney, two admiralty lawyers, and a U.S. Supreme Court Justice.
|
845.446 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Thu Aug 30 1990 10:32 | 11 |
| re .442
Didn't see the news, since I was there and
stayed with the boat for awhile after. So
I hedged. But don't you think it's ironic
that DC got off? From what I heard -- again,
on the dock -- he's the guy who did the finagling.
See you Saturday.
;)
|
845.447 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Thu Aug 30 1990 11:55 | 3 |
| re .445
What does FAIR DINKUM mean?
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845.448 | Shun the zeroes and hope they disappear | AKOV14::KALINOWSKI | | Thu Aug 30 1990 13:53 | 67 |
| > -< SPORTSMANSHIP???? >-
> Whatever happened to GOOD sportsmanship, and the sense of fair play??
It went the way of manners, common sense, and honesty. ;>(
On many of the notes files, I see more and more people screaming about
idiots, low lifes, bulleys, and other assorted human flotsam and jetsam.
Whether sailing a boat, driving a car, or in line for a meal, we are confronted
with "cement heads" who have no idea that the world actually doesn't revolve
around them (otherwise known as the "hub of the universe" concept).
The problem is the world is getting smaller which means we need some basic
rules to keep from hurting one another, but for the last 20 years everyone has
only been looking out for themselves. Does this mean I want more legislation?
Heck no, we have too much now. Besides there are things you cann't legislate
like common sense, good taste, and civility. You just have to keep an eye
out for rift-raft, and feel happy if you can at least get a sorry out of them
on those unforunate encounters.
I love racing one designs as it helps level the playing field. No it isn't
perfect, but it is closer. But there are classes that even I don't sign up
for as the group is too competitive to the point they get into dangerous
situations. Like most people, I don't race for money, my review is not
influenced by how well I do in the standings. To some people, this is not the
case, so I learn to stay away from them. If I can't, I'll take issue with the
person later,like the time a windward side barger almost took out my spine
and wrecked my rudder on a starting line. If the person is a total jerk,
there is always the ol' "pull out their tent pegs in middle of the night"
trick, but ussally this isn't required !
One of newer rules institued in Hobie racing is that if a person intimiates a
novice with a bogus rule (i.e. screaming port at a starboard rookie), the
person is throw out of the race immediately with no protest hearing.
Unfortuneitely, most cases are not black and white, but shades of grey. So what
are we to do.
I agree with Bob B. that it is getting to point where these clowns are making
is not worth the effort to go to a race. These are the same people who own
fast cars, but don't know how to drive them, drink expensive wines, but don't
understand what makes up it's unique character, belong to the best health
club but never use the place. They are on an ego trip. The trick is to get
through thier thick skull (very difficult, as many cements heads are
contitued of amost 100% cement) that they are not clever, and nobody really
likes them. You cannot do this one on one. These people will chalk it up to
jeleously.
My favorite technique is to talk a lot with the people in the class and come
down on the morons. We saw a bozo come straight downwind in 40-45 knt winds
onto a beach. He then couldn't stop and hit a boat being disassembled 30 yards
up the beach (the only thing that saved him from sailing into the parking lot).
Sure he had to pay for the repairs, but to us that was not enough. So we took
turns telling him that was a really stupid thing to do, and you had best not
even think of pulling such a stunt again. When everyone tells you
your a total loser before shunning you, the ego has to pop.
When I start to get to aggressive, my crew tells me to lighten up or take him
back in. That stops me fast enough. If we all just lighten up a bit, we all
will have LOTS more fun out there. As to the pro sailors and rich zeros who
have to buy everything for their boat, I just feel sorry for them.
john
p.s. Hey Bob, just give me a call if your up for some Hobie partyin... I mean
racing. We'll take you back, as long as you don't start bragging about them
there monohull boats :>) :>)
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845.449 | THE REAL THING | NYEM1::LEARY | FAIR DINKUM, SAIL TO OZ, MATE! | Thu Aug 30 1990 14:40 | 6 |
|
Re: .447
FAIR DINKUM = the straight truth = Australian "Strine" or slang
|
845.450 | Crew needed! | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Aug 31 1990 13:42 | 4 |
| Please see the Crew Wanted note! We need one or two guys for this
weekend.
Dave
|
845.451 | ...and the first shall be last | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Sep 04 1990 12:07 | 29 |
| Thanks to Lawrence, Ray and Fred who answered my prior note at the last
minute and came sailing with us Saturday. with their help we pulled
off a victory as well as had a great time with new guys on board.
sunday was a different matter. Lawrence came back but Ray and Fred had
other commitments. No sweat, we had another fill in. Unfortunately
the course was around the cans using fixed government marks. Brief
upwind leg (which we blew) and then follow the leader in reach after
reach. the positions never changed from the first mark. The bad news
is that on corrected time we were last at that mark and at the finish.
Only Bodacious was actually behind us by about five seconds.
On the last leg when we were clearly out of it, we got into a tussle
with Bodacious off the breeze. All we wanted to do was sail our
polars, not take those guys up. There was bluster about mast abeam and
such so we agreed to take their stern if they wanted to go down. Good
thing we did that, too. by sailing our polars we got to the finish as
fast as possible. By taking a first and a last we tied for second
place for the series with Loose Goose who took a last on Saturday and a
first on Sunday. The tie breaker was elapsed time which we beat them
by a little over a minute. So, to those on Bo, we're sorry, but we
really weren't trying to be jerks.
We also learned to NEVER tack just to windward of Bodacious. We need
to come off the breeze a bit after tacking to build speed. Bo just
pinched us right up into the way-back machine. Should have lee-bowed
them had we not been brain dead. Oh well, Saturday was fun!
Dave
|
845.452 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Tue Sep 04 1990 14:08 | 26 |
| Dave,
Jerks? Just some banter to relieve steam, I'd say.
Were it not for the two-boat contest for DFL honors,
Sunday would have been a TOTAL loss. We screwed up
at the start, and as you say, 'twas follow the leader.
Well, that last weather leg presented a brief thrill,
as we both were lifted very nicely and made up a fair
amount of ground on the leaders. Just not enough.
Saturday was a bummer for us. After leading for most
of the race, we never imagined we'd drop the whole
thing on the final beat. And when Claddagh came in from
right field to stuff us at the finish, that was the pits.
Was interesting to hear that Claddagh may get sold. Hope they
keep raciong something, as A-fleet is dwindling. On the other
hand, maybe some of the drop-outs will return if they know
there's new room at the top. On the "other" other hand, this
is the time of year when we wonder if we'll come back. You know how
it is...
Cheers,
Dean
PS Good luck Dave! ;)
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845.453 | Great boat, Great crew = Great time. | MARINR::DARROW | The wind is music to my ears | Tue Sep 04 1990 17:55 | 13 |
| Dave,
Thanks for the great ride on Saturday. You and Dennis and the rest of
your 'regulars' do a great job of making 'fill ins' feel both welcome
and a part of the team.
We got the mast up on Sunday in time for an early evening sail. Glad we
did, Monday just wasn't safe for a boat the size fo WINDSONG.
All the best next weekend.
Fred
|
845.454 | great week-end for sailing | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Tue Sep 04 1990 20:00 | 23 |
| Well, I had a great time this week-end, despite the results. Could've
used a little more wind but otherwise the weather was great. Dave,
nobody on Bo' thought you guys were being anything but competitive on
that last leg on Sunday. I thought that last leg was a blast ... most
fun I had all day. Of course, it would've been more fun if the two boats
had not been battling for last. But hey, we've both had our share of
victories (and near-victories) this year ... ;^)
Lawrence had a fantastic time with you guys (I carpooled with him both
days and we had a long time to compare notes). I'm sure he'd welcome
an invite next time you're short (and Wags isn't racing) ...
Any thoughts on why the fleets were so small? Is it late-season
burnout? Or perhaps just that people need a week-end off after the
PHRF N.E.'s? Or maybe just that the series winners are pretty much
determined by now? Anyway, B-fleet couldn't have been much fun with
only two boats out there ... and none of the top contenders showed up.
Dean, you can't be serious ... we WILL be back next season ... won't
we ???
... Bob
|
845.455 | when do Colregs take priority over racing rules? | BOOKS::BAILEYB | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Tue Sep 04 1990 21:54 | 23 |
| Oh, another thing ... was anybody out doing the M'Head race last
Wednesday night? I heard that High Zoot was involved in a massive
collision with another boat. Apparently it was your basic port-
starboard situation, only this time Zoot was on starboard. I heard the
story from someone who raced on Bo' on Sunday. From what he said, Zoot
hailed the offending boat a couple of times, then plowed into them at
about 7 knots, hitting the port-tack boat just forward of the mast
and causing extensive damage. I just hope nobody was injured.
Right or wrong, these kind of collisions should be avoided (personal
opinion, of course). If you have time to hail another boat, you have
time to take evasive action and hoist your red flag. Then again, maybe
Zoot figured the offending boat would produce a fake witness and get
off scott free (gee ... where has THAT happened before) ... :^(
Did anybody witness this, or can shed a little more detail on what
happened? Does anybody REALLY know where Colregs fits into this kind
of scenario? Seems to me that even if you have rights, it's awfully
negligent to hit another boat if you have the opportunity to avoid it,
particularly when you hit it hard enough to cause extensive damage.
... Bob
|
845.456 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed Sep 05 1990 10:36 | 33 |
| Some results finally on Touche. Took a third in the Thursday evening
race mostly due to good boatspeed. Finally figured out the light air
jibs. Don't know where we finished on Saturday but there were lots of
boat behind. Saturday's race was sailed in Stuart Walker's category 1
conditions - oscillating winds, Paul Keenan's dream conditions. After
a perfect start (the first one in a couple of seasons), we bounced from
header to header and found ourselves next to Jud Smith at the mark.
Not jibing enough on the runs cost us but we got most of it back on the
beats. Nice to finish up in the fleet for a change. What a difference
a good crew makes! It's been such a long time since I've had someone
on board who knew his job and could let me concentrate on mine. A lot
of concentration capacity (a scarce resource for me) gets freed up
when I can use racing lingowithout a lot of explanatory baby talk.
It doesn't get any better than that.
Monday was the survival chowder race. Took a second, mostly because we
were stupid enough to go out and actually sail the course. A tornado
catamaran passed us as we approached the committee boat for the finish.
Matt noted that they seemed to be going slowly for a reach in 25+
knots. "It's because we're planning" said Larry as the bow wave hit us
in the faces. First time I've done that without a chute up. Just as
the Tornado passed the committee boat it did a perfect pitchpole,
turning turtle and catapulting the crew into the air. We had to swerve
to avoid hitting them. The woman on the stern of the RC boat had the
most significant look of concern I've seen in a while. We planned into
the harbor and on the final approach to the mooring, the hiking stick
broke sending us rounding up into a another boat. No damage to him but
next weekend is damage control for me. Dumbest thing I've done for a
free lunch.
- gene
|
845.457 | Here's what I saw | NETMAN::CARTER | | Wed Sep 05 1990 15:49 | 29 |
| Last Wednesday evening while we in the starting sequence aboard
elysium, we heard a lot of commotion about 75 or 100 aft of us. We
were sailing away from the scene of the impending collision but the
noise attracted my attention. I was driving but there was no traffic
around me, so I got to watch.
The bow person on Zoot noticed the impending collision situation with
another J35, Whirlwind; and started hailing about one boat length from
the point of impact. Whirlwind was in the middle of a pack with the #1
genoa up. They had nobody on the bow that I could see. They made a
minor course correction after the hail of "Staarboard!", enough to get
standing sort of upright instead of rail down. Zoot's bow went up onto
the side deck of Whirlwind. My depth perception didn't allow me to
determine how far forward or aft the impact was, but it seemed to be
about amidships. (The collision bent the aft end of Whirlwind's
downwind pole.)
I sailed back to Whirlwind to see if everybody was alright and told
them I had seen the collision. The skipper looked at me and asked what
had happened, they didn't know something was going to happen until the
crunch. Maybe they were not keeping an adequate look-out?
Colregs? Something in them alludes to keeping a proper look-out, I
think. I honestly don't know how much maneuvering room Zoot had by the
time the collision was imminent. Did they hail on time? Maybe.
djc
|
845.458 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Wed Sep 05 1990 17:42 | 37 |
| re .456
Gene,
Let me tell you about dream wind conditions. Or was it a nightmare?
Last Thursday we had our usual night race. The weather forecast showed
a high pressure system up north over Maine moving quickly to the east.
Therefore I expected a northeast wind, veering to the right persistantly.
Since we race in upper Narr. Bay, the windward land mass introduces thermal
turbulance and oscillating shifts. So I expected to see the oscillations on
top of the veer. But how much of each?
We got to the course 20 minutes early, the wind was out of the northeast
and shifted steadily to the right by 15 degrees - with no oscillations.
I decided the shift was persistant, we went right immediately after the start
and sailed for 5 to 10 minutes in a header. Hot sh!t, we're going to kill
everybody!
Then we got a lift - oh no we're dead! The wind was ocillating back, the
whole fleet tacked and crossed us, we rounded the first mark DFL.
On the following run and into the beat we managed to claw back into third
place. The crew didn't want to hear anymore about pressure systems: "Just
tack on the oscillations and stick with the fleet!". Halfway up the beat
on starboard, we had the two best boats below us. They tacked, crossed our
stern, and tacked back - upwind and to the right of us. The wind kept shifting
to the right, the two fast boats were lifting inside of us. But it didn't
matter, we had switched to oscillation mode - we waited for the header - it
never came. Now we really were in a persistant shift to the right. The two
fast boats crossed us when we finally tacked for the mark.
To quote a crew member "Don't feel bad, you were right. But at the wrong time!"
-Paul
|
845.459 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed Sep 05 1990 17:56 | 7 |
| re. the collision
Whirlwind is brand spanking new, just launched in late July. I saw
them getting outfitted at the M'hd Trading company yard where I keep my
dinghy. Not a very pleasant way end to her maiden season.
- gene
|
845.460 | Season ending... | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Mon Sep 24 1990 12:44 | 30 |
| Well, the season is over for Bodacious. She was hauled
last Wednesday. Season cut short as Jon is traveling abroad the
last week of September.
It was a reasonably good season for us, but also disappointing.
Overall A-fleet participation was poor, with only 6 or 7
boats showing up on a regular basis for the summer and fall
series. I guess fleet participation dwindled as the
same 3 boats started to monopolize on trophies. Tough to
feel motivated.
Our best 10 races: two 1sts, two 2nds, and the rest 3rds. Not bad,
but we're still likely to get no better than 3rd overall for
the season.
Although the top 3 boats are well sailed, the rating debate
must inevitably follow. I know that Bo's rating is carved in
stone, as the J35 is a benchmark -- 72 forever. From the sounds
of it, the owners of Claddagh are going to sell, so her 75 is a moot
point. She should have been 72 -- maybe 70 -- two years ago.
Wildside will likely get bumped, my guess is 3 seconds.
What other changes are likely to happen? Dunno. But
something must happen if we're to have any kind of fleet
next year. Either that, or it's time to join the Etchells.
Later,
Dean
PS, Dave, got any room for Greg next weekend?
|
845.461 | partial results from the Manchester series ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Crew member ... Starship Earth | Mon Sep 24 1990 14:02 | 20 |
| Claddagh is sold, according to one of her crew who I saw at the
skipper's meeting last Thursday night. She's going back to the land
down under.
Sailed on Wags this past week-end for the Manchester Fall Series. As
it was the final YRUMB races for the series, the turn-out was fairly
large (B-fleet had 11 boats) for a late season series.
Saturday's race was a two-legged windward/leeward from Gales to Graves
and back (roughly 25 miles). Sunday's race was a gold-cup course from
a portable mark 1 mile east of Gales to Curtis Point to Newcomb's to
the portable, then back to Curtis Point and then the finish at the
portable. Didn't stick around for all the results, but in B fleet Io
took 1st both days. Wags took a 3rd on Saturday and a 2nd on Sunday,
for a 2nd overall (and 1st overall for the combined Manchester series).
Yaquina won the Fall series in A fleet, and Claddagh won the combined
Manchester series.
... Bob
|
845.462 | The Marblehead to P-town Classic | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Sep 24 1990 14:39 | 30 |
| Dean, we didn't race last weekend either. One of our crew members got
married Saturday (imagine that!) and the series didn't count toward the
Marblehead series. We went out social sailing on Sunday and watched
the Manchester race. Beautiful day!
Dean, we do have room for Greg next weekend. You too, if you are
interested. Give me a call at DTN 244-6607.
Glad to hear Claddagh is going back to Jim Hardy, its original owner in
Sydney. That's just about far enough away...
What do you mean we'll be bumped? John Collins has published articles
that specifically state that One Tonners of our vintage are 69, period.
I hope he's a man of his word.
We will probably be doing more travelling around next year if we win
the boat of the year award this year. Things like Buzzards Bay, Block
Island, Edgartown (if they get their stuff together) etc.
We were talking in the bar yesterday about starting a new race.
Seriously. Marblehead to P-town. Stay overnight and return the next
day. Could even race back. Charity was mentioned. The obvious
charity is AIDS research, but MS and others come to mind. The race
schedule is filled with so many holes it would be easy to schedule. We
thought about doing it the same weekend as the Marblehead to Halifax
race. How many boats actually do that race anyway? This could turn
into a mid summer version of Figawi! We could get a big cruising
contingent that doesn't race on a regular basis. Comments!
Dave
|
845.463 | land ho !! | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Crew member ... Starship Earth | Mon Sep 24 1990 15:44 | 7 |
| M-head to P-town ... sounds great Dave. Go for it. Jubilee YC used to
have an annual cruising race to P-town (overnighter). They stopped
doing it about 5 years ago, and I really miss it. Now if only I could
arrange to miss the beach down by Race Point ... :^(
... Bob
|
845.464 | | STEREO::HO | | Mon Sep 24 1990 16:52 | 12 |
| re M'hd - P'town race
How about substituting this for the Berringer overnight which
frequently goes to Race Point anyway. Having dinner Saturday night in
P'town sounds much more fun than aimlessly wandering around Mass Bay in
the dark.
Since sponsorship is the way to go with the big name races these days,
I wonder if some one could be persuaded to chip in a few (kilo)bucks
for this one.
- gene
|
845.465 | Welcome to the Etchells Fleet | 32543::HO | | Tue Sep 25 1990 10:29 | 16 |
| Another Etchells hits the water. Matt Brown's #76 finally made it in
this past Sunday after months of reconstructive surgery. New rudder,
keel, awlgrip, tiller, console, floorboards, running rigging, and
sail control systems. With only light usage, almost none in the last
ten years, the hull is ramarkably stiff so I expect it to be fast
around the race course. Matt's partner, Bill Uptogrove, has been in
and out of the Etchells, PHRF, and Finn fleets for the past dozen or so
years. With that experience and all the hardcore Tech dinghy racing
they do during the week, I wouldn't be surprised to see them up with
the top boats. They certainly done a good job psyching out the other
fleet members who have stopped by to check their handiwork. Nothing
but the best kevlar, spectra, and epoxy for their baby. Now all they
need is a name. They've rejected the obvious one based on their sail
number (Spirit) and my suggestion (Trombones).
- gene
|
845.466 | This season's really over | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Tue Sep 25 1990 12:13 | 31 |
|
I rowed out to get the boat for last race of the season last week. But the
boat and mooring were gone. I didn't even want to look, but I scanned the
shoreline expecting to find the wreckage. Still nothing.
Finally I spotted the boat out toward the channel, it had dragged it's
mooring several hundred yards. I was relieved to find only paint smudges
and small gouges from banging other boats along the way. Minor stuff
compared to a "bumper boat" regatta.
The wind was fresh and we had a good race. We rounded the last mark in second
with two boats on our transom. We tore the chute during the set, but it held
together. Rather than play pure defense, we gybed away on a few shifts and
left the wolves behind. We crossed the line for an easy second place.
After relaxing for a minute, someone uttered the fatal words "Hey, we better
get the chute down". Right then a strong gust hit us and blew the sail
apart. I felt like Gene Ho.
To ease my race withdrawal, I went out and bought a book. Just when I
thought I'd "read it all", I found a good one. Gary Jobson and Tom Whidden
have a book called "Championship Tactics". It contains many tips that I've
never heard before (whatever that's worth). Not surprising since these guys
have been the tactical brains in the US America's Cup for the past 20 years.
There's also a strong Stuart Walker influence, but easier to read. They
emphasis how the skipper will inevitably make dumb mistakes if he tries to
do all the tactics himself. I can attest to that.
Paul
|
845.467 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Tue Sep 25 1990 14:00 | 29 |
| Dave,
I'll be traveling that weekend, but thank you for
the invite.
As for your rating, I know nothing about articles, etc,
it's just my impression that you're a little faster than a 69.
Either that, or we're a little slower than 72, which I'm
more inclined to beleive. Who knows what next season will
bring. Maybe we could have an off-season draft for crew... ;)
Claddagh is gone. Will kind of miss her....
Nah! ;) Have they gotten another boat? They were looking
at a Farr 40, yes?
Have a fun off season everyone!
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.468 | | STEREO::HO | | Tue Sep 25 1990 14:14 | 14 |
| re .466
A J-24 dragging its mooring? Guess you'll have to put down TWO cinder
blocks next season.
If you were able to salvage the nylon scraps from the chute, a
sailmaker can sew them back together. You will, however, have some
seams showing that weren't there before.
If your withdrawal pains become intolerable, I can use a tactics whiz
on Touche on Oct 6, the last race in M'hd. That is, of course, if I
haven't sold the boat by then.
- gene
|
845.469 | re.:461, Nice race | LANDO::STONE | | Tue Sep 25 1990 16:30 | 5 |
| re:.461
Nice race, Wags. I was on Bad Company. A real squeeker on Sat. given
the distance raced. Glad the rain held off.
Joe
|
845.470 | gotta love a close race ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Crew member ... Starship Earth | Tue Sep 25 1990 17:41 | 7 |
| Squeaker ??? 2/1000's of an hour (about 7 seconds) corrected, over
a 25+ mile course ... yeah, that's kinda close ... ;^)
Fun week-end ...
... Bob
|
845.471 | Last Race | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Oct 01 1990 11:07 | 22 |
| Last Race for the season was yesterday. As usual, the Jubilee ran an
interesting race course. The only problem was the use of the Cat
Island channel bouy for a mark. This is the mark our navigator mistook
earlier in the season. The problem is that it is marked "N4" on the
chart and not "R4" like the YRUMB book claims. Unfortunately there is
an "R4" right in Cat Island Channel. The coordinates make it clear
that YRUMB means N4, but some other poor shnook got caught in the same
problem yesterday. Anyone hear how that protest turned out?
We had two of Bodacious' crew members with us yesterday. We didn't
show them our best stuff at all. We had some good moments, but could
only finish third with Arbella of all people beating us out for second.
We had an ungodly jib wrap while doing a jibe set of the chut at the
last windward mark. The jib tailers let the jib out in front of the
headstay during the jibe and it got wrapped in the foreguy. What a
mess!
It was a beautiful day. Very sad the season is over. We believe we
won Class A boat of the year for Marblehead, so we are happy about
that.
Dave
|
845.472 | it's over ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Crew member ... Starship Earth | Mon Oct 01 1990 11:54 | 44 |
| I was on Wags for this race. Io was the boat that went around the
wrong mark, and Fred DiNapoli and I got to sit on opposite sides in the
protest room (we were the respective naviguessers for Io and Wags).
I thought Fred made a good argument (as did Jacque earlier in the
season). YRUMB should make their mark designations match what's on the
charts (in this case, the mark we rounded should be designated RN4).
Also, I have always wondered why that little nun out by Halfway Rock is
called the Cat Island Channel Buoy, rather than the one over by Cat
Island, which is the one Io rounded.
But my case was that, although the YRUMB book is unclear about the mark
designation, the lat and long given in the book very closely match the
coordinates of the nun that the rest of us went to (within .1 nm).
Also there is no light on the nun, as the YRUMB book indicates. The
channel marker that Io rounded has a 4-second red flash on it.
The protest committee agreed with me that it should have been obvious
which mark was the one designated in the Salem Bay list (the other one
is not even on the list), and that Io violated the rule (52.4?) about
not rounding all the posted marks.
I thought this was an unfortunate way to end the race, because from the
start it was a two-boat race between us and Io. They took an early lead
and basically held it between 1 and 6 boatlengths for the first 12 miles
of the race. When they headed for the wrong mark they were about 3-4
boatlengths in front of us. Had they continued sailing as they had for
the first 75% of the race, they probably would have won. It would have
been better to either have won or lost based on boat speed and tactics.
But I just couldn't see letting them take a 3+ mile shortcut ... :^(
It just took away any opportunity for us to catch them during the last
1 and a half legs of the race.
Bernie Burke (Io's skipper) plans to write YRUMB a letter asking them
to clarify the mark designation in their list. I think that would be a
good idea ... nobody should lose a race because the mark designations
are confusing.
It was a beautiful day to be sailing. Too bad the season's over. Wags
is getting hauled next Sunday. Hope Saturday's nice so we can get one
last sail in before the long wait begins.
... Bob
|
845.473 | Beatiful day for a race! | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Oct 08 1990 10:35 | 9 |
| I'd like to thank Gene Ho for including me in yesterday's E22 finale.
Paul Keenan was aboard as well. We took a sixth or seventh, but kept
up in the fleet the whole way. I really had a blast, but ended up with
all sorts of mystery bruises and scrapes! Plus I had to relearn to
read an analog compass ;^).
Thanks again, Gene.
Dave
|
845.474 | what a way to end the season ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Crew member ... Starship Earth | Mon Oct 08 1990 14:20 | 9 |
| Sure woulda liked to have been sailing yesterday instead of hauling
Wags. We got our last sail of the season in on Saturday. What a day!
The wind was 18-30 SW, warm and sunny. Best sailing day of the season
IMO. Then yesterday turned out easily as nice. Never hauled a boat
in that kind of weather before. I envy those of you who spent the day
sailing instead of working.
... Bob
|
845.475 | in the FWIW department ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Crew member ... Starship Earth | Mon Oct 08 1990 14:23 | 8 |
| RE .471
Found out yesterday that Io is appealing the protest on the R4 mark.
At the very least, I expect that will get the YRUMB folks to clarify
the designation of the two marks in question ...
... Bob
|
845.476 | End of the Season??? | MILKWY::WAGNER | | Mon Oct 08 1990 15:36 | 29 |
|
I was a guest on Saturday for the Scituate Chowder Bowl on John
Glancy's Frers 33 `Rigamarole'. Quite a turnout, actually, saw a buncha
Hingham Bay and Boston boats getting in their last licks. Can't beat
the conditions; ssw 15-25 with the biggest waves generated by the
hulls! Fast AND dry! Anyway, a twicearound olympic, more or less, with
1 1/2 mile legs. Sorta like the New Englands, with perfecto conditions.
Anyway, the battle was with a Frers 36, Quickdraw I think, and Fred
Baker's Evelyn 32. We had a strong second going into the 5th leg, when
the heavy #1 said so long. The #2 was in the shop, I think, so speed
really suffered with the worker. Anyway, after woofing down a bit o'
chowder, assembled some of my crew back at Wessagusset, and blew the
rest of the day off in fine style, around the outer harbor islands.
The next day was less air; better for my wife, so a quick run to
Minots, then the `B', back around Boston Light then battling the
current for awhile. In fact, NOBODY was making Hull Gut under sail
alone.
So, this may even be another topic...but...
This is my first year without total control over the boat. The last one
lived on a trailer; the boatyard was my back yard. Now I'm told when I
have to be pulled, at the club, or shell out multithousands at
Hewitt's, the local big yard. And still have to line up the Lift, or
Brownell, or whatever. Anyway, the whole thing sounds unfair, even tho
many say it's better to be out because of possible storms. I say BS;
there's plenty of safe hiding places in the event of a nor'easter. Is
this the price that must be paid? I figure I'm losing a good month or
so of boating. Six months seems awfully short. Comments?
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845.478 | You shoulda been there | STEREO::HO | | Mon Oct 08 1990 15:51 | 54 |
| A terrific day and a great crew on board Touche for this season's swan
song. Paul and Dave: thanks for showing a duffer how to find his way
around the course. If I can hold off Alzheimers for another year I
hope to remember some of tricks I picked up. Dave, I had usually tried
to tack in the usual keel boat manner, shooting slowly to weather
before bearing off. But, you know Dave, you're right about not losing
speed in the tacks. When I just slammed it over, the boat didn't seem
to slow up at all. Paul, if I can get that leach up like you said,
maybe we'll be able to squeeze Bob Sides (740) up the next time he
tries to roll us.
The race itself is still a bit of a mystery in my mind. We started out
doing the textbook things. Compass readings on both tacks indicated a
65 deg tacking angle, perfect for the flat seas and steady wind.
Running the line showed it to be square. Shooting the wind showed a
true beat for the rhumbline. Dave and I independently assesed the left
side as the one offering the most oppurtunity. The game plan was to
start in the middle of the line and to work the left side without
hitting the corner.
The start happened according to plan, thanks in large part to a quick
fix of broken vang bail by Dave and Paul. Thank heavens they had the
presence of mind to do what had to be done inspite of my completely
unhelpful advice. A gang up at the committee boat resulted is a few
PMS's and many boats bailing out to go right to avoid our gas and the
early starter's coming back. But as luck would have it there was more
favorable wind on the right and we watched quite a few sterns as we
crossed tacks. We arrived at the windward mark on the port layline and
tacked around with not as many boats in back as we would have liked.
Downwind the fleet consolidated and we rounded the leeward mark in a
cluster, tacking to go left to avoid the line of boats in front. Left
paid off this time. At the weather mark we're back in 4th place after
doing a quasi legal real close tack on #467 right at the mark. Some
quick sail handling by Paul and Dave got us around with maybe an 1/8"
to spare and we heat up 30 deg. on Starboard. Some inattentive steering
on my part dropped a few boat lengths and at the finish two boats
squeezed past us. Boy do I wish there had been another leg to get
those two boats back. But that will have to wait for next year.
A season never passes without a halyard lock fiasco and it was # 76's
turn this year. When I drove over to the Marblehead yacht club to
carpool with one of the owners, he was still sailing around trying to
get his mainsail down. At the club dock much advice was given on how
to do this, most of it very humerous but all of it utterly useless and
some of it suicidal. We sailed #76 over to the Corinthian dock to use
their ladder and barely avoided putting it on the rocks when the
skipper tacked short of the dock. We got the main down but not before
the owner had torn out a significant portion of his remaining hair. By
the way, Paul, we saw the Iron Lady back on its mooring on the way
down.
- gene
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845.479 | I WAS there, and it was great | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Oct 08 1990 17:26 | 24 |
| Gene, a couple of comments. First, it wasn't so much the driving as
much as my lack of knowing the E22's polars that lost those two boats
at the end of the race. I played the downwind legs too hot. Obviously
not the best VMG as the two boats were behind us at the turning mark.
Sorry!
Second, I was amazed how much speed the boat holds out of the tacks!
The story might be different in light air, but not in yesterdays
conditions.
Third, the fleet is so bloody close that wind shifts that we might
ignore ( less than 5 degrees) had a huge affect on the E22 fleet. I,
too don't understand how the right side paid on the first beat. The
guys on Wildside watched us round the final mark not knowing that was
us with the problem. They were in hysterics saying it had too have
been me that put us there. I tend to want to do that a lot. "Sure,
there's PLENTY of room..."
Fourth, E22's are a blast to race. There is NO room in that fleet for
slacking. Can't help but make for better skills. We bigger boat
sailors get lax and content looking at our digital doodads. Back to
the (wet) seat of the pants sailing!
Dave
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845.480 | Ct state championships | AKOV11::KALINOWSKI | | Tue Oct 09 1990 14:22 | 64 |
| I went to the Ct State Championships in Candlewood St park outside of Danbury
this weekend. Great racing. A small lake with funny shifts, it really
challanged me. The fact a large contingent of ProSail guys showed up made it
that much more interesting. My normal crew had other commitments, so I had Dave
Shear from Albany captaining my boat while I played dead weight and ran the
chute. Dave is a skipper I have always admired, and he wanted a chance to try
racing a cat with a chute.
Saturday was as perfect of a warm fall day as one could ask for (except for the
moron leafers crawling along the highways while I'm trying to get to the race,
I mean why are they driving 2-3 abreast at 50 mph at 4:30 AM ??? The *(&^ sun
isn't coming out for another 2 hours!). We did pretty good. Dave went through
my boat and really tighten up everything (shrouds, rudders, etc). Then on the
course he runs the main really loose and constantly is footing the boat. It
didn't feel like it was moving, but come the windward mark, we were always
there first in our class, even carrying and extra 120 lbs of beef on board. I
am finding that even though the boat feels faster pointing, you are to better
the foot it constantly. The downwind runs were a riot as the narrow lake and
large fleet made the crossing interest at speed to say the least. The leeward
mark as insanity as 15 cats crossed, dropped chutes and headed back up in a
very confined area. Some poor soul avoided another boat the t-boned another
cat. 8 guys on one boat with a power boat pulling the other way couldn't get
them apart. They head to tow the mess to shore where it took over a dozen
people to free the two boats.
My spinnaker technique was a "c". Half the time I was perfect, half the time
something would go wrong and cost us more distance than the chute would save
us, since the legs were so short. Luckily our upwind performance was good, as
was our course placement. I learn to enter the leeward pin shallow and over
point the mark. When the boat stalled, the preasure would be off the sails and
we could quickly bring in the outhaul and boom vang. Then we would pick up a
bit of speed and tack off to clean air as everyone else ate dirt on a port
tack. It was worth the extra tack and problem of our finishing on port.
As .78 says, pull the rudders over for a quick tack. This goes against
everything I every read about cats since you have two rudders and very little
momenteum. It does work though. Anyways, we aced all 4 races.
On Sunday the winds were lighter and we sailed the first course ok, but took a
2nd after our competitor overstood the last leg and footed for more speed. The
best part was wasting half the pro-sail 21s who had tacked off immediately and
had to eat the bad air of all of us who overstood the mark. We had enough
points (ie. less points than anyone had with throwouts the previous day) to
skip the last race. This was done for 2 reasons. 1. get to shore and put the
boat away before the hords showed up. 2. Why take a chance of getting a DSQ
which could not be thrown out. In fact the 1st place 21 did the same thing
when 6 different guys begged him to sail the last race. He smelled a set-up.
Won our class, and then went down the street to have a couple beers with the
pro sailor. learned the following:
Hobie cat is having financial troubles, and has cut out it's support of the
association. This is causing us to run with more sponcers and to let other type
cats race in an open class. it will be interesting to see what happens to the
limitations on the types of changes one can make to their boat now.
The ProSail group had a bad year as they lost Salem as their sponcer and only
had a couple of races. The is another sponser signed up for next year, and it
looks to be a much bigger calander.
Great weekend and it made up for the beating I took at the Nations. When I have
a chance, I'll crank in the gory details of that.
john
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845.481 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Tue Oct 09 1990 16:52 | 20 |
| Gene and Dave, enjoyed sailing w/ you both. I was concerned about
creating a three headed skipper monster, but it worked out well.
One of the best moments was after the vang broke, Gene directed me
to a container filled with nuts, bolts, shackles, etc. I quickly
opened it, then dropped everything in the bilge! Gene looked down
at me groping in the bottom of the boat and muttered "Well that's
not gonna help".
I would love to get the best of that #740 boat some day. He was smart,
kept shifting gears on us. At the start he was to windward and just
climbed away from us. Later on he drove down and herded us to the
port tack layline.
Gene, I've been thinking about your main. On my boat, the main is
a higher aspect ratio, I keep the foot fairly tight and this only flattens
a small portion of the sail. On your boat, we had the foot tight and this
seemed to flatten a large part of the main. I wonder if loosening the foot
a bit and tensioning the leech to add fullness would pay off.
Paul
|
845.482 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed Oct 10 1990 09:59 | 17 |
| Etchells #740 belongs to Bob Sides who sailed in and won his 51st M'hd
Race Week this year. He went out to the left with us but managed to
climb back up and eventually win Sunday's race. Over the past 8 years
he's done the exact same thing to me maybe 50 or 60 times. Some of us
are slow learners. Funny thing is, every time I just follow him around
the course, the magic doesn't happen and we both get tanked.
About the main, you're right about the impact of the outhaul. The
radial panels emanating from the clew really transmit the flattening
effect way up the sail. The sail is new this year with very few races
on it and I haven't figured everything out yet. Trimming for more
power and a rounder leach is definetely on the test agenda for next
season. Jud Smith has also mentioned this but it's hard to know how
to quantify "full" and "round". Maybe I need to get the two of you
back next season as consultants.
- gene
|
845.483 | More Backstay | STEREO::HO | | Wed Oct 10 1990 19:36 | 23 |
| From: MFGMEM::KEENAN "PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332" 10-OCT-1990 09:13:39.58
To: STEREO::HO
CC: KEENAN
Subj: Backstay
Gene,
In a fleet as tight and competitive as yours, gear shifting is critical.
One thing we didn't agree on this weekend was the use of the backstay.
To shift into pinch mode, I tighten my backstay and mainsheet and ease
the jib cunn. a bit. This flattens both sails, moves the draft back,
and tightens the main leech. I find this works well for me.
I dug through a few books/articles on shifting gears and they seem to
agree. I can't think of any reason why an E22 would work in reverse - ie.
ease the backstay to point. Stuart Walker's Adv Racing Tactics has a
chapter on gear shifting; you may want to reread it. I also have a
good article by Greg Fisher, I'll send you a copy if you send me your
mailstop.
Next time we'll drop #740 like a no deposit bottle.
Paul
|
845.484 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed Oct 10 1990 19:37 | 66 |
| From: STEREO::HO 10-OCT-1990 18:30:34.58
To: MFGMEM::KEENAN
CC: HO
Subj: RE: Backstay
Paul:
Good point Paul. I had moved a block to the rear of the mast at the
partners to get into a lighter air mode than last week but forgotten to
adjust my perception of what the trim shoud be. This has the effect of
loosening the forestay for a given amount of mainsheet and backstay
tension. To get the same entry shape in the jib I should have put more
backstay on. But the forestay seemed reasonably tight. It usually bobs
around if it's not.
None of this however occured during the race. But going upwind it seemed
that the mainsheet was already within maybe two inches of the max setting
which the forwardmost position on the scale that's on the boom. With much
more backstay (mark lower than about 3 inches), inversion wrinkles start to
appear which kills both speed and pointing. Plus the boom was starting to
droop significantly compared to my recollection of what's normal at that
wind speed.
I often do as you recommend for pointing but in the last few weeks I've
noticed that I've depowered the main too much by over tightening the
backstay thereby overflattening the top of the sail. I thought I'd try
keeping it powered up this time.
On factor that may account for a difference in the trim between a J24 and
an Etchells is the utter lack of integrity in the E22 mast. Softer by far
than a J24. More backstay just bends the mast without tightening the
forestay. Bending the mast collapses the leach. More mainsheet gets the
leach back up but stretches sail in the upper third and flattens it. Thus
less power. With the wind decreasing, I wanted to keep powered up,
especially with four in the boat. And there seemed to be just enough wave
action to need the power. The Etchells doesn't have the big genny to power
through like the J24.
The rationale for all this mainsheet and backstay tension is to remove
forestay sag which in an Etchells is outrageous compared to any other boat.
In light air the backstay takes out a lot of the sag. In 10 or more knots
it's the mainsheet that does it. The function of the backstay transitions
above 10 knots to flattening the upper main rather than reducing forestay
sag. As the wind builds we have to move blocks from the back of the mast to
the front to tilt the mast back. Even mainsheet tension alone is not
adequate. This however, changes the point of max mast bend. More block in
back = lower bend = more fullness in upper main. With the blocking we had
I think we had barely enough fullness up high. I'm not sure which way we
should have gone on the main. In the past I know I've been burned by too
much mainsheet and backstay when I should have been paying attention to the
other sail.
The BIG trim booboo on my part was not resetting the jib cars for the Wave
Jib that I finally selected. Remember, I equivocated for God knows how
many minutes about sail selection. When I finally decided, I forgot that
the cars were set for the flat jib I had on last week. The Wave Jib is so
full that it has to be stretched at the foot and luff or air just won't
flow around it.
The other change I would have made is to put an extra mast block in back of
the mast at the partners. This would have moved the point of max bend down
reducing the tendency of the backstay to flatten the top. Then I would
have eased the outhaul more and really cranked down on the backstay and
mainsheet like you say. And just trim the jib tighter. This might have
given us power in the main and a tight entry in the jib. If only we had a
time machine to check this out.
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845.485 | Last Fling | STEREO::HO | | Mon Oct 22 1990 18:07 | 22 |
| Nothing like sipping beer, listening to oldies, and cruising. Do this
on a one tonner on a close reach in twelve knots with three other
talking boatheads and sailing doesn't get much better.
Dave Johston and company graciously let me tag along for the ride as
they delivered Wildside to her winter home in Boston. Didn't even have
to motor much despite the Southeast wind. As we past the Pig rocks
south of Tinkers Dave wishes out loud for the wind a few more degrees
aft so we can set the jib and, whadya know, the wind shifts and we set
the #1. Didn't have to touch it much after that. Only one jibe the
whole trip.
It's been a while since I've been in big boat but Wildside does handle
almost as responsively as a dinghy. Hard to resist the temptation to
make the boat dance in the waves when on the helm. My enthusiasm had
to be restrained.
Lots of nice user friendly ideas. Color codes on stoppers and halyards
and rollers to skirt the jib. The trip was too short. Coulda kept on
going to the Virgins easily.
- gene
|
845.486 | We're out of WHAT?!?!? | AKOV12::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Oct 23 1990 17:27 | 4 |
| Yeah, Gene, the Virgins would have been nice. Woulda had to stop in
Bermuda for more beer, though. Glad to have aboard!
Dave
|
845.487 | summer is on the way | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Tue Oct 23 1990 20:23 | 15 |
| Well down here in NZ we have just finished our major spring regatta
last weekend in which we finished 3rd and are looking forward to
a summer of racing ahead. Twlight racing starts tonight and goes until
the end of march with a break for christmas cruising with saturaday
racing starting this weekend.
I kind of feel sorry for you having to take a break from racing for
the winter as down here racing is an all year round event with short
breaks between the summer and winter series,winter racing seems lately
to attract the bigger fleets.
Well I'll look forward to reading this note when the spring arrives
and you start again.I suppose one good thing about such a long break is
that if it happened down here I'd be able to get a few things finished
around the house and keep the wife happy.
regards Revel.
|
845.488 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Wed Oct 24 1990 12:26 | 6 |
| Revel,
Please keep us posted on events/issues in your racing
circles. At least, I'd like to know what's up down under.
;)
|
845.489 | More info! | 21251::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Oct 24 1990 12:39 | 9 |
| Revel, what kind of boat do you race? Do you crew or own? What kind
of racing is big down there? One design or handicap and if handicap,
what measurement is primarily used? Much controversy? How long
(distance) are your average races? What sort of wind is normal?
Harbor racing, or ocean?
C'mon, fill us in!
Dave
|
845.490 | NZ Winter Transition Volunteer | MILKWY::WAGNER | | Wed Oct 24 1990 14:43 | 17 |
|
6 months to sail, 6 months to repair. The New England sailor's lot.
Any hi-paid crew openings in NZ??? That's one place I'd sure like
to visit. Revel, the winter might be a little warmer here if you
keep us updated. How are the sea conitions? Are rocks and current
as important to know as favored sides and mast bend? Are pros
competing against amateurs? Which brands and designs are favored
there?
Any other racing noters in that hemisphere? C'mon, let's hear
what works!
Scott
|
845.491 | part #1 | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Thu Oct 25 1990 01:31 | 41 |
| I'll try and answer your questions but first I have to say that we won
the race last night so that's not a bad way to start.
The racing calander in NZ starts in October with the spring regatta
with 4 races over 2 weekends (2 harbour about 30miles,2 olympic) the
winds for these are generally very strong 25kts + and again this year
was no exception with the last race changed from olympic to a harbour
race as they couldn't lay the marks,it blew 35kts true and the clew of
the kite parted company from the rest of the spinnaker.
The next race is the coastal classic a 120 mile race up the coast
this was last weekend 153 boats entered in 7 divisions determined by
LOA, with prizes going to line honours,PHRF,and if enough entries of
the same design to the first one there in each divison.They started the
race with a mass start which was interesting to say the least but
somehow we managed to get a good one and hit the right side of the
track to be leading our divison which we managed to maintain for the
first 80mile then the lights went out,and along with them our
brains. The 3 hours between 2-5 am weren't our finest.The final result
wasn't pretty.It also cost us 5 bottles of rum made in rash bets in the
yacht club.
From now until March the yacht clubs run the most important for us
the RNZYS series of races. These are made up of a combination of
harbour,olympic and three passage races to points around the coast.The
best of the passage races is to Kawau Island but that is not until Feb.
There are 2 other series of races both of 5 races made up of longer
races 80-150 mile during the year.And of course wednesday night racing.
So there's plenty to do. Then winter starts but that will be another
story.
Racing is done in a mixture of one design fleets and mixed
divisions using PHRF and IMS is starting to become popular.The popular
one design boats in NZ are the Farr 1020,Farr 38,Townson 32,Young
88,and Swaurt 34. I own a Young 88 which is a 30ft fractional rigged
cruiser/racer boat with an open transom displacing 2750kgs they rely
on crew weight to make them go uphill and are easy to surf when running and
reaching.There have been about 150 of these made in NZ so the fleet is
one of the biggest and very competative.One design came late to NZ with
our classes growing out of the fact that someone built a few of these and
went out on the harbour a blitzed everything out there,so you built a
mould and started selling them and dream a set of class rules.
Got to go will continue tomorrow if you are interested.
regards revel.
|
845.492 | Let's have part #2 | 21251::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Oct 25 1990 11:09 | 6 |
| Yes, go on. I noticed while visiting Sydney that many of the
"cruisers" down there are more radical than most of the so called
racers in Marblehead. Much more to my liking. After all, sleds were
invented in NZ.
Dave
|
845.493 | By all means continue ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Crew member ... Starship Earth | Thu Oct 25 1990 15:17 | 11 |
| ... I am interested. It'd be nice to see some activity in here during
the off season. Just don't start feeling lonely ... most of us turn
read-only in the winter. I think the cold weather has something to do
with it ... ;^)
Please continue to post your racing stories and results. They'd be
enjoyable reading to tide us over till it's sailing season on this side
of the planet again.
... Bob
|
845.494 | part #2 | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Fri Oct 26 1990 01:00 | 46 |
| I just read the last paragraph of my last reply and it made no sense
sorry about that. The program for us this year is do wednesday
nights,the RNZYS series(12) and one of the 2 longer series.There is also
our championship regatta (5 races)in april,a match racing series to
select a rep from the class to go to the NZ series.
The boat is also raced on tuesday nights by a ladies crew who are using
as training in the lead up to the national champs for ladies the winner of
which goes on to the worlds.
Boats in NZ are usually have some sort of cruising comforts and
racing stops for a month over christmas so the boats can go cruising.
I would have to agree that from looking at american sailing mags that
the average cruising boat here bears very little resemblance your
boats.Most "production" boats here are not bought fully finished here
but at a hull and decks stage and are completed at home.There are a few
all out racers but even they have a freezer ya cant race without a cold
beer at the finish.
The race on wednesday night started badly for us we got a bit of a
shock when the committee boat pointed out that we'd made yet another
bet for a bottle of rum with "John's Dory" that had slipped our
minds.Well we started badly with john dory going over the top of
us and "88 proof" jamming out from under us, being the meat in the
sandwich is not a lot of fun.So out the back we go. 88 proof went round
the first mark 2nd behind john's dory we were 4th.John's dory then
proceded to sit on our face not giving us any clear air for the first
half of the beat,they were then faced with the choice of protecting
their lead as 88 proof and "flash gordon" were coming through (flash
had a few of the north boys on board and in the past have been real
hard to beat).Well from our point of veiw John tacked clear to cover
the other 2 which was just fine by us as we were going where we
wanted.That move cost him a bottle of rum.In clear air we managed to get the
boat trucking along to round the top mark 2nd a boat length behind 88
proof.We had a tight reach to our next mark then a gybe set to go back
home. We ran over 88 proof on the run lead the fleet home this is a very
nice way start to the series.
Do the pro's race the the little guys? Well in the 88's the spring
regatta is open to anyone but the class champs the boats must be helmed
by an owner or regular helmsperson(a ladies crew won last year but they
also went on to win the world champs for woman and they had the skipper
from propaganda on board).Last year in the spring regatta we raced Rod
Davies helming with David Barnes calling the shots.That was a bit of an
eye-opener.In the champs Chris Dickson and Russell Coutts have raced
but only as tactision.
The weekend has arrived which we are taking off as some of the crew
have exams coming up and they have to study.So we'll see you next week.
regards Revel.
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845.495 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Fri Oct 26 1990 12:58 | 8 |
| re "Sleds invented in NZ..."
I happen to know that sleds were invented in
Switzerland when an avalanche nocked down a barn
but the owner's favorite cow escaped harm as she
rode the barn door down the mountain.
No, wait, that's surfing. Nevermind...
|
845.496 | It blew a bit | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Wed Oct 31 1990 22:54 | 10 |
| It was a tad windy last night so they posponed the the race until 12th
Dec. The weather station on the point of which we race had 48kts in the
gusts and there are a lot of small boats that race so the committee
canned it. The big problem with this is that you get to the yacht club
at 5:30 which is a tad dangerous.
Raced on Tuesday night on a friends bopat and won that race so the
week hasn't been a complete washout.Raceing on saturday in a 70 miles
race.
Regards revel
|
845.497 | who should be saying what during a race ??? | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Crew member ... Starship Earth | Thu Nov 01 1990 15:14 | 54 |
| Sittin' home sick today, so I was reading the latest issue of Sailing
World. There's an interesting article in there called "Helping the
Helmsman", which is an interview with Robbie Haines (1984 Olympic gold
medalist in Soling class) on communication between crew and helmsman.
Now I've raced on a few boats (with many of you, in fact) and everybody
seems to have a different idea on the role of various crew with regards
to communication. In my experience, communication between crew and
helmsman is one of the most important, and least well-defined functions
of the racing team.
So the following is excerpted from the article for purposes of discussing
your ideas on the subject.
The key to a good team is to keep the helmsman from feeling like
he has to look around, so he can concentrate on keeping the boat
moving.
The helmsman has to have a good dialogue with the genoa trimmer
when going upwind. The trimmer should have his eyes glued on the
knotmeter and should know what the target boatspeeds are. Every
boat should have targets and the genoa trimmer should have these
in his head.
Just after a tack the genoa trimmer should be calling off the rate
of increase in boatspeed because that'll dictate the helmsman's
course.
Input from the main trimmer is anything in regard to, "We have a
two-knot puff", "the wind's the same", "I'm going to pull the sheet
in a little, how does that feel on the helm".
The spinnaker trimmer should provide information like "pressure" or
"no pressure", and the helmsman should dictate his own course.
The helmsman should never stifle constructive comments from the
crew, but it can get a little confusing if people are telling
him where to steer the boat.
Going upwind, the tactician should understand puffs, headers and
lifts as they relate to wind velocity. For example, "the boat to
weather is going a little bit faster, but the water looks darker
up there and I think it's a puff".
Downwind the tactician should be relaying information about the
boats upwind, whether they are going faster, or getting on your
wind. The helmsman should never have to look back to see what
the fleet behind is doing.
Comments ??
... Bob
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845.498 | more thoughts | CHEST::BARKER | Ex. RYO, ex. UCG, soon to be ex. SBP | Fri Nov 02 1990 04:27 | 21 |
| I agree with the above and have a few points of my own.
- At the boat I sail, the helmsman tends to be the tactician as well,
so the crew should try and do his looking around for him and enable
him to concentrate on boat speed.
- Crewmembers, particularly younger ones, sometimes talk in a language
all of their own ( "XYZ is really down the pan now","ABC is history",
"DEF is doing a horizon job" and other such things ), and what the
helmsman really needs is clear information like "XYZ has had a 20
degree header", "ABC has gone too far out into the tide and is now
losing out" and "DEF has got better wind down to leeward"
- Inactive crew members should try not to distract the ones who need to
concentrate with comments like "Look at the colour of GHI's kite !"
This is a particular problem with big crews, half of whom are there
to pull strings during mark-roundings etc, and have nothing to do
during the straight line bits.
Chris
|
845.499 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Fri Nov 02 1990 10:08 | 35 |
| Here's my thoughts:
It's become fashionable to call the skipper a "driver". I've been
in a few situations with crews who want me to shut up and "just drive".
I don't think this works at all. Mainly because no one has a better feel
for speed, power, and balance of the boat than the helmsman. The
helmsman has to be in close communication with the throttle man. Upwind
the throttle is usually the genny trimmer and downwind it's the
spinnaker sheet.
Target boatspeed is mainly a big boat technique. Smaller One designs
accelerate and decelerate too much with every change in wind speed and
waves. The big thing in One Design is measuring yourself against the
fleet. The two main areas to watch are the lee bow and windward
quarter. Crewmembers who can discern gains and losses against the fleet
and communicate it are worth their weight in gold.
As far the helmsman looking around, I think the crew has to do most
of it and identify areas of interest. Then the skipper can take quick
looks to optimize his look-around time.
I also believe in the "get your head
out of the boat" theory. Basically, you can't sail fast with your eyes
riveted on the telltales. I think if telltale-fanatical skippers took
the telltales off their jibs, most would sail faster. Gary Jobson says
angle of heel is the most important thing to sense while steering and I
agree. There's also the feel of the helm, sound of the bow wave, mast
head pennant, wind on your neck etc. I've been able to sail very fast
upwind at night with no flashlight on the jib, sailing by angle of heel.
The competition were all blinding themselves with lights and we left them
behind. Our crew maintained thier night sight, spotted areas with more
wind, and we tacked toward it.
Paul
|
845.500 | | STEREO::HO | | Fri Nov 02 1990 15:40 | 51 |
| Silence is golden.
The sail trimmers have set up the sails so the boat almost steers
itself. Just an occasional glance at the telltales and compass out of
the corner of the helmsman's eye is enough to keep the boat in the
groove. Everyone scans the water and boats around us for advantageous
variations in wind and position. There is instantaneous mental
convergeance on a tactical opportunity and a flick of the helsman's
wrist is enough to signal the initiation of a perfect roll tack.
This happens on everyone else's boat. It never happens on the boat I'm
aboard.
In the absence of mental telepathy, I prefer to do all the things we
not supposed to do when building consensus in meetings or interviewing
prospective employees:
1. Ask only questions that can be answered yes or no.
Bad question: What's goin on to weather of us?
Good question: Are they gaining or losing to weather?
2. Never give data without a value judgement.
Bad data: 125 127 126 128 129 131 130 135
Good data: We're knocked, let's tack!
3. No real time data dumps allowed.
e.g. 3.9 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.5 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.8
This is a good demo of working knotmeter but is otherwise worthless
data. Only the trimmers need to know the rate of speed increase and
they can keep it to themselves. The helmsman just steers to his
telltales.
4. The less you can get away with saying, the better.
Lessens the chance of having to eat words latter. Or treating some one
to an expensive dinner after the race.
5. No sailing lessons while racing.
Instead, de-brief after the race.
If there is a significant skill or experience inbalance, it will be
hard to adhere to the above. And the results usually show it.
However, it's not wise to be too bottom line oriented in sailboat
racing. Encourages the wrong attitude.
- gene
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845.501 | I agree | AKOV11::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Nov 05 1990 10:17 | 21 |
| The article could have been written by our crew. We strive to carry on
a conversation that is focussed and not directly aimed at the driver.
That's right, driver. The driver picks up the pertinent data and
should react. Main participants are myself as tactician, the main
trimmer, and headsail trimmer. The driver sits between me and the main
trimmer so he hears all our conversation. Sentences are short and idle
chat is discouraged. Info from the rail is crucial, but the balacne is
to keep it from being a constant stream.
By the way, we place a great deal of credit for our recent sucess on
exactly what the article stresses, providing the helmsman with the
confidence that he does not have to look around. Steering is a
technical task. On a big boat it is VERY difficult to be both driver
and tactician.
The concept of "skipper" is dying. Sailing is a team sport. We are
all crew with our own jobs to do. A lot of people think that the
ability to write checks imbues them with the ability to do everything
else as well.
Dave
|
845.502 | Where's my eyes? Where's my ears? | MILKWY::WAGNER | | Mon Nov 05 1990 13:08 | 21 |
|
Actually, I thought the action of ripping all those checks out of
the book created breeze, thus I was important. Aw nuts.
Great stuff here. This is the first year with this boat, and
suddenly 3-4 people aren't enough. In that great DEC tradition,
more middle management is created. The chute trimmer has to yell
to the bow man, not the driver. Etc etc.
Now the big question; where does one who has a comfy boat attract
good crew? Big new sleds are more like magnets for sailmakers and
such. I've not seen Jud, or Wiley, or Robbie on an O'Day 28. In
that case, usually every OUTING, race or not, is a lesson.
I've read neat yachtclubbish stuff about parties with college
talent and such which sounded great... anyone seen this in action?
Or any other methods?
Actually, Notes and Email have been my best help yet!
Who wants to expose their magic secrets???
|
845.503 | | MFGMEM::KEENAN | PAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332 | Mon Nov 05 1990 13:16 | 21 |
| Gene,
The only thing that "spontaneously converges" on my boat is the boom
and peoples heads. But you know all about that!
Dave,
About this Skipper/Driver stuff - please show me a good team without a
good leader. Some of the most critical decisions of any race are boat to
boat tactical moves at starts and around marks. And these situations
allow no time for discussion, the helmsman must act, right or wrong.
He's the Skipper. This is especially true in One Desigh where 20-30
boats can converge on a mark at once. All the grand strategy and
teamwork of a long beat can be blown instantly. I'm a great believer
in crew teamwork. But at the same time, the feel of the helm gives
a good Skipper an acute awareness of the boats performance and
manueverability.
Paul
that went into the windward strategy can be lost quickly at the
windward
|
845.504 | We agree to disagree | AKOV11::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Nov 05 1990 14:31 | 32 |
| Paul, you are right! Teams DO need a leader. NOT the driver, though.
Maybe it's different in one design. Although, the Burton brothers who
won the E22 worlds twice would disagree with you. At our starts
especially the helmsman has final veto, but the tactician calls the
shots. A helmsman cannot possibly take in all that is happening at the
start and maintain proper boat handling. If skill is an issue, that is
one thing, but I can attest to several good boats in A fleet that don't
do better because the owner/helmsman makes all the calls. Can't do it
all well.
As for getting crew. Good question. I hate to discourage you, but it
can take several seasons to build a first rate crew, and it takes as
much or more work than maintaining the boat to race specs. Start by
asking your sailmaker for recommendations if you have or are buying
sails. Let your crew (if qualified) have a share in running the boat.
Treat them lavishly. Barbecues, plenty of sandwiches and beer on board
for after the race. Commit to being at least competitive. A lax
program will lose the interest of crew. If you don't care, why should
they?
Also find an enthusiastic core of less experienced crew who will make
that all important time commitment and learn with them. Go to a
J-world training week in Newport with them.
College sailors are tricky. Posting notes at the boathouses helps.
Once you have one, you now have the important "in" to that program. We
have it with MIT now and to a lesser extent, Harvard.
In summary, make it fun, don't yell, admit what you don't know, and
treat the crew like they are really contributing.
Dave
|
845.505 | How do you spell respect? | MFGMEM::TRAINOR | I can't see the lawn for the trees. | Mon Nov 05 1990 15:06 | 12 |
|
> Treat them lavishly. Barbecues, plenty of sandwiches and beer on board
> Go to a J-world training week in Newport with them.
Hey Paul, have you been holding out on us?!!!
But, if an owner/skipper really wants to build the respect of his crew,
he has to be willing to clean the bottom himself in the scummiest
harbor, he can find.
Charlie
|
845.506 | last saturday | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Mon Nov 05 1990 15:32 | 22 |
| Hi Guy's the way we run our boat is similar to that of dave's during
the start the trimmers (we don't have a dedicated tacticion) and the
helmsman decide what end to start and where to go after the start and
it's then up to the driver to get a good start with input from the rest
of the crew.During the race the 2 trimmers call the shots.This tends to
take the pressure off the driver to concentrate on speed,The driver
also has active input to this process discribing how the boat feels.The
crew on the rail also keep an eye on the competion as to how they are
going,but the foredeck and mastman are quite young so this nomally
turns into what they did last night,are going to do tonight etc.But
they are also very good and this tends to keep the rest of us amused.
On Saturaday we did a race that turn from being 60miles into the
shortened course of about 35miles as the wind was only blowing 10-12kts
max all day.We raced in B division, the handicap used was just club
handicap,this is someones idea of a BAD joke,needless to say we had the
highest handicap in the division by quite a bit. The race took us
7hrs50mins we finished with only 2 A divison boats in front of us and
20 mins in front of the next B boat and the eventual winner by over an
hour.Give me one design anyday at least you know where you stand.All
the boats that corrected out better are actually bigger than us.
Regards revel
|
845.507 | | STEREO::HO | | Tue Nov 06 1990 10:29 | 34 |
| I don't know of too many skippers who can steer, evaluate the
environment, and trim sail at the same time. In 10-15 knots in smooth
water, maybe. Above or below that you get at best two out of the
three.
At starts and roundings I've found it useful to have someone not
steering to call the position of the line and the inside overlap. And
to do the necessary communicating with the surrounding boats. The
helmsman's too far back at the start to see where the line is. And if
he's doing his job of squeezing up the windward boat and creating a
hole to leeward, he's too busy to look for it.
At roundings, I prefer a trimmer to call for the best path around
because they're the ones who have to do the heavy work with the chute
and pole. Any ad hoc movements by the helmsman usually result in a
chute screwup.
It's nice to have the bodies with the skill sets to evenly spread out
the work but that for me is the exception rather than the norm.
Usually it's a one man band which is as effective as a V8 running on
four cylinders. The top boats in the fleet usually split it up with
the most commom duty for the helmsman to steer and complain about feel
of the helm. The others react to that input and tell him where to go.
The most productive crew recruiting scheme I've found was to put an ad
in the DTW. That generated about 25 responses a few years back and
about 4 of those were crazy enough to come back for more. It does,
however, stretch one's diplomatic skills to take that many out knowing
that most of them won't work out. Now I don't do cold call anymore. I
usually call only people who have expressed an interest in the
Etchells fleet or the family and crew of other owners. It gets
frustrating giving sailing lessons for free.
- gene
|
845.508 | prior preperation prevents poor performance | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Thu Nov 08 1990 22:06 | 53 |
| Well we raced on wednesday but the week lay-off caused a bit of brain
fade and we did real bad like 2 boats that have never beaten us
finished in front of us, so I'm not going to take about it.
This weekend the summer series starts with an olympic type course
on saturday this series tends to a lot more competive as we get to race
the boats from up the other end of the harbour (the city end so they
think they better).The top boat in our class comes from there so we'll
have to see if we can beat him.
On Sunday there is a special event held annually The Ronstan Interclub Relay
There are 10 yacht clubs competing,6 from Auckland and 4 from the
rest of the country,each club brings 13 sailors and they compete in a
relay using 4 different designs of boats.The boats are borrowed from
the owners who are on board and have final say as to use of the baot.My
boat has been used for the last 2 years no damage has ever happened to
it,I think we tend to treat it worse.
The that are used are as follows and as there is only one designer
that you may just have heard of, a brief description is each is
included,most aren't anything like american boats,ours go fast first
think about other considerations later.
Elliot 5.9 requires 2 from the clubs + the owner,these are a
daysailor 5.9metres long with a centreboard that has a bulb,easy to get
to surf these are used here as a trainer for young people coming out of
the centreboard classes who want to go onto match racing etc.These are
designed by a guy called Greg Elliot,considered by some to be nz up and
coming yacht designer,he's into fast boats built to no rule apart from
overall length.That is not to say his boats are unsafe, in early
October I sailed on an elliot 41 back from Gladstone in Australia,about
1500 miles in 9.5 days cruising a very nice trip.
The next boat is the "Ross 930" 5 from the clubs a light 30ft boat
that uses a small self tacking jib upwind,these boats are quite narrow
and fly downwind but struggle uphill.These are designed by Murray
Ross who is best known here as a watch captain on various NZ round the
world boats laterly Fisher + Paykel. He has a bit of an ongoing battle
with Greg Elliot.He also has a 41ft design that the boat I brought back
from Oz was designed to beat.
The Young 88 comes next with 6 from the clubs this is what my boat
is.So I tend to think it is a better design than the Ross 930 and if we
ever do any mixed fleet racing tend to have good fights with them until
it blows a bit going uphill.These are design by Jim Young an older guy
than the other 2 but also has on going battle with them. Greg elliot
work for him as a budding designer.
The last boat is a Farr MRX these boats where designed especially
for match racing and are run by the RNZYS (Royal NZ Yacht Squadron) who
are looking for corporate sponsors. These boats are a development of
the Farr 1020 with the hulls coming from the same mould but with a
completely redesigned deck, the local marine industry have so far
supported these boats by donating time and materials to the project.
this the first time something like this done here. If you get coverage
of the World Matching Cup in early Nov these are the boats that will be
used.
So Sunday should be a lot of fun.
regards Revel.
|
845.509 | PHRF Fall Meeting | AKOV14::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Nov 15 1990 10:11 | 6 |
| Just a reminder that tonight, Thursday, November 15, is the fall
meeting of the PHRF Marblehead fleet. It starts at 7:30 at the Boston
YC in Marblehead. Hope to see some of the local racers there. It
usually provides some pretty good entertainment.
Dave
|
845.510 | A busy week | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Thu Nov 15 1990 18:21 | 20 |
| Hi guys,
It's friday morning here and I've a tad busy this week not had a
chance read notes.In fact I missed sailing on both tuesday +wednesday
nights. The boat won on wednesday without me.
Last saturday we came 4th but it was a bad race in 8-12 kts very shifty
so not really idea yacht racing conditions we had to think too much.We
where last divison to start so we caught up to a lot of slower boats
on the reaching legs, do you think they would let us passed.It was very
annoying as we'd made up 100 metres on legless to be on their stern at
the wing mark with them having room on an outside boat but not us.At
the bottom we were 200 metre behind them.
Tonight we are doing a night race around an island, our last 2
night races have been disasters so I hope we do better. We dont seem to
do very well if we cant see our opposition.I dont know if there is any
special technque to be successful at night.Any Suggestions gratefully
accepted.The big problem tonight,is that tommorrow we are supposed
to race uptown against the top dogs.
regards Revel
|
845.511 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Mon Nov 19 1990 15:44 | 5 |
| Congratulations to Wildside for taking overall
Class A honors in Marblehead PHRF!!
Congrats also to WAGS!
|
845.512 | Race 4 last night | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Wed Nov 21 1990 15:47 | 19 |
| Well congrats Wildside you'd have to be happy with that.
Last Friday in our race we where doing real well until the breeze died
away and the fleet parked up.It was very fustrating we came around a
turning mark in the lead stopped and watched our opposition sail around
us our preformance in night races is a bit of a worry as we have a
further 3 to do this season.
Last night we raced in our club series wednesday night race.We had what
most sane people would think a bit of a radical start,on a very biased
line we tried to start on port,as soon after the start everyone has to
tack onto port as there a reef on that end of the line.This we nearly
pulled off dipping the first starboard tacker,the 2nd one tacked on to
our line,the 3rd one tacked and protested us so we had to do a 720.
From there it was a bit tricky getting back but we sailed a very good
beat to round the top mark in second 2 boat lenghts behind flash gordon
and well clear of the rest,going the right helped.We then spent the rest
of the race tring to get past flash which we didn't. So far this season
the score is 2 guns to each Flash and ourselves.
regards Revel.
|
845.513 | Soapbox Derby | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Nov 26 1990 09:24 | 24 |
| Thanks to Revel and Dean. We set the season championship as our goal
this year and set everything else as secondary. That we achieved it is
a mix of that dedication by our crew and a lot of luck!
In doing it we became slaves to the ridiculous schedule that Marblehead
PHRF sets. We tried (for the third year in a row) to bring this up as
an issue at the fall PHRF meeting and got nowhere (also for the third
year). The powers that be can't understand the lack of participation
and then set a schedule that is highly irregular and hard to follow.
Detroit has 200 boats per weekend participating because of one simple
fact. Everybody knows that you race every Saturday between May 15 and
October 15. Period. Crews don't have to commit to a full weekend, and
if you miss a weekend you only miss one race. Also (okay this is a
second simple fact) the entry fee covers all races. No entering
different yacht club fees.
Anyway, because of this and the diminishing fleet locally, we are
planning to do a lot more travelling to regattas next year. Jon
Burbank, the owner of Bodacious said it best: it's no fun racing
against the same four boats every week no matter how good they are.
Marblehead PHRF, wake up.
Dave
|
845.514 | last saturday | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Mon Nov 26 1990 20:18 | 28 |
| This is now the 3rd time of trying to enter this reply and each time my node
crashes the briefer it gets.Our major championship for the year is one regatta
over 5 races on one weekend with the rest of the year taken up with less
important events and series.
Last Saturday we sailed in 12-20kts around a olympic type course
getting a good start in 2nd behind "Smokey and the Choirboys" on the pin
after the start boat dragged,we held our place up the beat with the day
coming off the rails at the top mark,the boom hit the mark,720 degrees
later we where in a distant 4th and nearly 5th with "Danger Zone(the top boat)
and "legless" going past.We spent the rest of the day trying to catch legless
and managed to get the lee bow on her at one stage to force her back on to the
side of the track we thought less favoured up the last beat.
There is no racing this weekend as the RNZYS is running the
"Mazda World Match Racing Championship" with most of the top match racing guys
being there,most of them are from here anyway.Starting on Wednesday with a
round robin competion,semi-finals on saturday,final sunday.It is being sailed
in the Farr MRX(Match Racing 10 metre) and there is TV cover all weekend.
Those competing are Chris Dickson,Peter Isler,Rod Davis,Russell Coutts,Peter
Gilmore,Eddie Ward-Owen and 4 others.
The A-division fleet in Auckland attracts 12plus boats ranging from
Longfellow(64ft) to Excess(elliot 10.5 racer with rotating mast and other
goodies) and includes a farr40 one tonner called Pacfic Sundance I think
it is about the same era as Exador.
Because of the match racing Tom Elham(sp?) from San Diego is in
town and was interveiwed on the radio last night.He had a lot of interesting
things to say about what's happening in the US.
Regard Revel.
|
845.515 | It's a long way from home! | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Nov 27 1990 10:03 | 9 |
| Pacific Sundance is in Aukland? It used to be in San Francisco. It is
the same as Exador and Epic. Design #136 from Bruce Farr. Ours is
design #143 and is basically a close development of #136.
Not ALL the names you mentioned in the match racing are from NZ. ;^)
Just the BEST are from NZ.
Dave
|
845.516 | Congrats as well | LANDO::STONE | | Tue Nov 27 1990 12:05 | 11 |
| re: .511 + .513
Dave,
My congrats as well. From my vantage point (in B fleet: on Bad Company)
during the races I participated in, your boat was always well sailed.
You couldn't have said it better regarding the scheduling problems.
Each club calls its own shots (and pays for the outcome). Look at what
happened at the Corinthian this year. The die hards will always be
there, but the schedule won't do much for getting or keeping new part-
icipants.
Joe
|
845.517 | Winter Racing in Boston | STEREO::HO | | Tue Nov 27 1990 13:00 | 14 |
| They're going to try to race through the winter in Boston this year.
The Courageous Sailing Center plans to hold races on Saturday mornings
at the mouth of the Charles between Constitution Marina and the Coast
guard station using Rhodes 19s. $200/person. Three persons/boat,
spinnakers allowed. That's about the same cost as getting my own
interclub back in the water except I get to beat up on their boat
rather than mine. Prospective season is 12/1 to 3/30 (18 Saturdays).
5 - 7 races per day.
I may wander down this weekend to see how practical this is. Anyone
interested in forming a team?
- gene
|
845.518 | J24's too! | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Nov 27 1990 14:11 | 6 |
| The Boston sailing center is doing much the same this winter on J24's.
A few of our crew got together and is doing a whole boat. Seems crazy
to me, but our guys love it so far. The cost is $300 per person, but
less if you get three guys together and "do" a whole boat.
Dave
|
845.519 | Just say NO to diapers, you'll be full of ... | ELWOOD::KEENAN | | Tue Nov 27 1990 16:47 | 10 |
| Gene,
I'm tempted, but with a baby due in January I'll have to pass. Maybe
next year.
Dave,
Three people per J/24 - is it non-spinnaker?
-Paul
|
845.520 | No chutes | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Nov 28 1990 09:01 | 5 |
| Right, no spinnaker. The committee determines the largest headsail
that may be carried before they go out to race. For example, they
limit you to a blade or even mainsail only.
Dave
|
845.521 | Bring on the beef | ELWOOD::KEENAN | | Wed Nov 28 1990 11:55 | 2 |
| If you had 12 knots of wind, the 150% genoa, and three 300 lb crew,
you'd be unstoppable upwind!
|
845.522 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed Nov 28 1990 14:02 | 38 |
| re .513 "the schedule"
It appears that the schedule is having its intended effect - to promote
travelling to remote regattas. The one design fleet has the same
problem/opportunity. Some of the events for which lay days are
scheduled such as the Volvo or Buzzards Bay draw enough boats in some
of the classes to reduce participation at the top of the fleet. Others
like Quincy Bay are a little dubious.
As a general rule one design boats don't travel much. The one
significant exception was the J24 class which had a number of regional
regattas that had to be sailed to qualify for the national and world
championships. The M'hd fleet had dropped from about 35 boats to 10
(many owners got married and had to buy houses). When 3 or 4 were away
at a regatta, not enough were left to race. Many of the crews also
complained about "having" to race every weekend. If we had 2 races per
day every other week, they reasoned, there'd be more time for
family/work obligations and the fleet would grow.
So the M'hd racing assoc adopted the swiss cheese schedule. You can
guess what happened. If you missed a scheduled week, you could go as
long as a month before the next race if you didn't want to travel.
That happened to us this past August.
Some of the E22 owners work every other weekend so they could only do
half the races anyway. With the schedule change they were lucky to
race once a month. We lost three boats in our fleet due to that.
There were similar reductions in the other fleets.
Ironically, the J-24s who started all this dropped another four boats
down to six. We rarely see them out there at all now.
On the other hand the Wednesday and Thursday night series for PHRF and
One design have drawn consistently and grown over the years. It's
there, same time, same place, every week. You pay one nominal fee and
you're all set. If you miss a week, there's always next week.
- gene
|
845.523 | What DOES bring `em out??? | MILKWY::WAGNER | | Thu Nov 29 1990 13:55 | 22 |
|
At the last PHRF-NE meeting, tha same kind of reports were shared;
Wednesday or Thursday twilights were the best attended. Most thought
this had to do with crew availability. In Hingham Bay's case, no chutes
are allowed in Twilights, so a lot less crew can do the job.
The economy was the biggest bugaboo; people ARE working weekends,
especially in the building trade. Two perennial champions were not even
in the running due to lack of practice and consistent crew.
We plan schedules in the early spring, when each fleet decides which
races are being kept, added or dropped. Then neighboring fleets can
keep off each others toes. Also the biggies are respected; JFK,
Chapman, Corinthian, NE Champs for example. So in our case, anyway,
there's no big plot behind schedules.
There is the usual grousing about throw-outs for those who want
vacation cruises AND silver, and sometimes when big IMS or such sort of
races conflict with locals. I found clubs were the most meek; they love
to see some big boys on the line.
Impossible to keep everybody happy, so we just look at what has
succeeded and hope it works with us.
Finding sponsors for existing races has been a push; parties and
ostentatious trophies are always a draw.
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845.524 | World Match Results | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Thu Nov 29 1990 15:33 | 12 |
| The results from the world match championships after 2 days of racing
with 7 rounds sailed.The wind has being 18-25 kts on wednesday,15-18
yesterday.
Rod Davis and Peter Isler lead with 6 wins.
Peter Gilmor and Eddis Ward-owen 5 wins.
Chris Dickson has 4 wins and after the first day he had only 1 win
from 4,he races Coutts and Gilmour today so he has a very slim chance
of making the final.
Russel Coutts has 3 wins.
Regards Revel
|
845.525 | Courageous Frostbiting | STEREO::HO | | Mon Dec 03 1990 09:22 | 42 |
| There was a good turnout for the Courageuos Sailing Center's inaugaral
day of frostbite racing. Enough hard cores showed up to get 12 Rhodes
19's on the line for five races held in Boston Harbor near the Coast
Guard Station and the Navy yard docks. With temps in the 50's and a
puffy 10-20 knot SW wind we had more comfortable conditions than we
often encounter in early spring races.
Short WLW courses were used. That combined with shifty winds and 2-3
knots of current from the Charles River outflow made for intensely
tactical racing. We really had to keep our eyes open on what was going
on around us. However, all the buildings around us provided convenient
markers to highlight the lifts and headers. Not like on the ocean
where all there is to look at is a compass. Tack fast and tack often
were the keys. That and overstanding the marks enough to compensate for
current kept us at or near the top. With most of the participants
sailing club members or big boat racers, the level of competition
wasn't quite what we have to deal with during the summer. But the
staff team and the Tufts racing team made life more than adequately
interesting.
The boats are new ones from Stuart Marine. Good boat builders but
clearly not racers. External halyards, non Haarken gear, and poor
placement of blocks made for a lot of friction. The difficulty in
setting and dousing the chutes negated the speed advantage they
offered. We saw a first place at the windward mark turn into a fourth
at the leeward one because we couldn't get the chute down. Did better
without it and gibing on the lifts. Kinda of a shame since the chutes
were top quality from North sails.
It's small world. In bar afterwards we BS'd at length about the summer
season and it turned out many of us knew each other's boats. Not
surprisingly, many were there to recruit next summers crew. The owner
of the sailing center turned out to be the son of one of the Etchells
fleet members - Ben Smith. Maybe I'll hit him up next year for a ride
on Courageous. Nice Bar. Part of a marina on an adjacent pier. Nice
harbor view, cheap beer, and most importantly, warm.
The cost is not too steep. $200/single person or $280 if two sign up
together. When that was announced, it was amazing how many "couples"
materialized.
- gene
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845.526 | Chues are okay | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Dec 03 1990 10:11 | 4 |
| I was wrong about the "no chutes" rule on the J24's. They are free to
use them unless stipulated before the races.
Dave
|
845.527 | match Racind Results | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Mon Dec 03 1990 15:06 | 8 |
| Hi Guys the results from the match racing champs.
Peter Gilmour beat Rod Davis 2-0 in the final after thay had beaten
Peter Isler and Eddie Ward-Owen in the semi's respectively.\
So NZ didn't do so well although Rod Davis calls himself one these
days.
Regards Revel
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845.528 | 1990 Red Lobster Cup Trip report | STAR::KENNEY | | Tue Dec 04 1990 09:09 | 73 |
| Just back from the Red Lobster Cup in Florida and had to write a trip
report.
This year they had 578 boats and sailboards registered in about 40
different classes. With just about every age group covered with a
winner in the NOVICE sailboard class being in his 70's. This year
they had very strong winds both days. The bad news is that they had a
near fatal accident Sunday. One of the Lightings was gybing and
capsized. One member of the crew was trapped in the rigging and
drowned. Others in the fleet, and the rescue boat managed to get him
out of the water and restart his heart.
Friday:
Went to pick up the US1 that I was borrowing to take to the
lake. I planned to get a little tiller time in and get a feel for the
boat. The boat was not ready, and it was later than planned when I got
to the lake. In addition it was blowing over 30 with breaking waves
and blowing spray. Only two professional Hunter 23s went out, and
several of the sailboards with tiny sails. It was amusing to watch
Larry Klein misjudge a channel and run his boat aground on the sandbar.
In the evening a number of talks were given by Greg
Fischer, Jim Brady and Ed Baird, Lynne Jewell Shore and Allison Jolly,
and many more. After the talks snacks were served and a party went
until midnight.
Saturday:
Arrived early to finish sorting out the boat and attend
the skippers meeting. It was blowing 10-15 thought great it would be a
nice sail. Left the beach at 11:15 for the first of three races wind
was up to mid 20s with some breaking waves. I almost decided to leave
the boat on the beach but went out hoping for the best. I thought we
were in the third starting group, I was wrong we were second. Dumped
the boat twice in the first race and finished 6th of 8 boats. Not
great sailing two boats broke and withdrew for the day. Had the start
wrong for the second race and finished 5th of 5 starters another boat
went to the beach with a broken centerboard trunk. Last race started
3rd and got as high as second before finishing 4th.
In the evening a sit down dinner was served, and afterwards
door prizes were handed out. After the door prizes a dance started
that went to midnight again. I ate dinner with the race organizer, and
Ed Baird.
Sunday:
Got to the beach about 8:45 to sail out for a 9:30 start no
wind. Spent an hour drifting out with about 100 other small boats wind
filled in about 10:30. Started at about 8-10 and built to mid 20s for
the second race. Had the start sequence sorted out and was over first
had a terrible windward leg. A small light boat full of water from
breaking waves is very slow. I worked hard and managed to finish 3rd.
Second race I was second on the start and held third for most of the
race. At the end of the second reach leg the shortened the course and
sent us to the finish line. All I needed to hold third was cover the
4th place boat. I got greedy, I thought I could catch the second place
boat and broke the cover. The forth place boat got a huge lift and
almost finished second. I ended up tied for 3rd and was awarded the
forth place trophy. I was very happy first regatta of any size against
sailors I did not know (including a former sunfish North American
champion, in boat I had never seen before).
After the racing more door prizes, entertainment, and
awards were handed out. Considering the number of boats and the
conditions the event ran smoothly. On Saturday only about 10 protests
were heard, and on Sunday about another 8. I had a great weekend for
a reasonable investment, I will do this race again.
Forrest
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845.529 | | STEREO::HO | | Mon Dec 10 1990 13:36 | 42 |
| Cloudy skies and a light variable northerly made for a sharp contrast
with last weeks balmy conditions at this saturdays Courageous frostbite
racing. During the week the staff had been at work re-rigging the
halyards and mainsheets. The difference was immediatly apparent as we
hoisted sail. Everything went smoothly, even the spinnaker gear.
There's nothing like having some one else do all the busy work on the
boat for a change.
Jim, Sam, and I teamed up on boat #1, each of us rotating throught the
three positions - helm, main/spnkr, and jib/foredeck. Aceing the start
seemed too easy. We picked our spot on the left 2/3 the way down and
hit it right at the gun. Funny thing was despite good speed off the
line boats to weather and leeward started to gain us. We didn't want
to bang the left corner too hard so we made a consolidation tack back
to join the bulk of the fleet on the right. We didn't want to take any
sterns so we tacked again to a not-especially-safe leeward. I figured
we'd pick up on the shift everone was going for but the crept past us
and we had to take some sterns to go for the mark.
We consolidated somewhat with some good chute work but were bugged by
the slows all the way up the final beat. Looked like a fifth at the
finish. Ditto for the second race. Some inattention caused us to miss
the third race which ulimately got cancelled when two fuel barges came
through the middle of the course. Aced another start for the fourth
race and some good shifts gave us a third. Better, but the boat was
still slow. Whatever it was we had for trim wasn't working so we
change every thing to its opposite setting. Tightened everything that
was loose and loosened everything that was tight. Much faster this
time and a third at first mark. One more boat sneaked by when I turned
too sharply at the leeward mark but we caught some on else to hang on.
A satisfying race.
With the cooler temps, gloves were the topic of conversation. Sam had
new neoprene/leather gloves made for frostbiting. Jim had dishwashing
gloves under sailing gloves, and I had just sailing gloves. Sam was
cold, Jim tore his gloves, and my gloves were too clumsy for good pole
work. One of the Tufts team members had PVC gloves from Wearguard that
looked good but come in only one size, unfortunately not mine. Next
week I think I'll try mittens dipped in rubber cement. If they don't
work, at least I'll be able to get 'em off easily.
- gene
|
845.530 | Summer is just around the corner | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Thu Dec 13 1990 23:50 | 53 |
| It's Friday evening here in NZ,the racing for the year finished on
Wednesday night and last saturday for that series.
The Saturday race went very well for most of the way with us
getting a good start which was turned out to be a lay to the first
mark before setting off around a harbour course of 32 miles.We rounded
2nd,it was a very shy kite reach to the next mark,blowing about
20kts(didn't have time to work out the polars) but we had did very well
here as we have the heaviest crew (1200lbs for the 7 of us) and we
where able to hold it on its feet. So we rounded first ,the next leg
was a broader reach to the gybe mark with the next leg also very
tight looking at the divison in front of us it appeared that they
where sagging so we decided to drop at the mark and 2 sail the rest of
our fleet did the same,as we sailed the leg it was freeing and the
breeze was dropping,so we set up for another kite run and decided to
wait for the main opposition to go for it none of them did and we got
sick of waiting for them so we hoisted and had another blast to the
bottom mark.This week we started in reverse order with the A division
boats starting behind us and we started to get run down by some of them
and they have to go over the top,one in particular a Baltic 55 was 2
sailing on the reach went over the top of us hoisted there kite then
broached but they did give us a tow when they got it upright. The beat
to finish started very well for us with the fleet falling into line
behind us and we held them out until we where forced out of our
covering position on Danger Zone by some of the bigger boats and they
slipped trough to finish just ahead of us.We where a bit unhappy about
that but overall we where happy as the rest of the fleet was a long way
back.
ON Wednesday we finished second again after we ripped our nice new
#1 kite at the top mark. The race itself turned into a follow the
leader after the beat with us worried about being run down under our
little shute,88 proof basically gave it to us as when they went for the
hoist the first time their foredeck hadn't clipped the kite on properly
so they had to retrieve the hayard, on the 2nd for the run to the
finish they where 3 boat lengths behind us and this time they hiosted
without the sheet attached,gave a bit of a breathing space and we had a
very good duel up the river to the finish with us not giving an
inch.Cause we had the little kite we just luffed them all over the
place and when they tried to go under us we just sat on their faces,a
lot of dicussion of the rules was had,they river gets a bit shallow if
you get out of the channel and it very nearly went bad when we touched
the bottom.
Racing finishes now until after christmas with us cruising the boat
for 3 weeks so the boat gets a rebuild with the comforts being put back
on. We have one more race on Sunday,one of the salesman here also owns
a Young 88 so we having an inhouse race agianst them (sales + EIS) a
few rash comments on the on the possible outcome. They have the better
crew as only one of the rest of our crew has done any sailing but my boat's
better.
Regards Revel.
P.S. enjoyed the ims discussion but have been too busy to put my oar
in.
|
845.531 | Volvo Regatta Reform | ELWOOD::KEENAN | | Fri Dec 14 1990 10:21 | 25 |
| I heard some news about next years Volvo Newport Regatta for the J/24
fleet. Last year had 92 boats crashing together on the line and at
mark roundings. Most of the weekend was spent in general recalls - but
it was fun. For next year:
* The J/24 fleet will have separate racing instructions. Automatic
black flag after first general recall.
* The fleet will not be split up. Everyone will be given bow numbers
like at North American or World chamionship regatta's.
* The courses will be simple windward-leeward or triangle.
* There will be two staggered windward marks.
* There will be judges at all mark roundings.
I just hope they have at good race comittee. Last year they set our
windward mark beyond the gybe mark of another fleet. Just as the fleet
converged on the wrong mark, they abandoned the race. Too bad for us,
it was our best windward leg of the regatta. Although splitting the
fleet is better for fair competition, bashing it out with 90 other
boats is a thrill. Just don't hang your legs over the side!
Paul
|
845.532 | A little Christmas racing | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Dec 17 1990 09:26 | 27 |
| I had the "opportunity" to race in the Boston Harbor Sailing Center
frostbiting series last saturday. The weather got a little wet later
in the afternoon, but other than that, what a blast!
We had twelve J 24's on the line for four races. Short
windward/leewards, triangles. Some twicearounds. Of the twelve, three
were privately owned J's and the rest belonged to the sailing center.
The difference in sail condition was notable and the top privately
owned boats had a real advantage. Nobody took the thing too seriously,
though, and the competition was good natured. The starts were very
tight and provided good practice.
We didn't have a working engine on our boat, so we had to sail back to
the dock (not mooring). Decided to give the people at the Winery bar a
show and sailed in under spinnaker alone. Dropped the chute 25 yards
away from the dock and drifted right in. Nice way to finish.
BTW we had three fifths and one ninth. We got the ninth when we did a
windward chute takedown and the wet spinnaker wrapped itself around the
shroud. VERY slow sailing upwind with the spinnaker acting like a
giant airbrake!
Saw the Rhodes 19s over by Charlestown. Looked like a good crowd. It
is so great to see the harbor used this way by such enthusiastic
sailors. I'm going to be out there again soon.
Dave
|
845.533 | Etchells Worlds | STEREO::HO | | Fri Jan 11 1991 09:06 | 44 |
| Some interim standings from the Etchells-22 world championships being
held at this moment in Fremantle Australia (after 4 races):
Standing Skipper Country
1 Chris Law UK
2 Colin Beashel AUS
3 Michael Coxon AUS
4 Dennis Conner USA
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20 Jud Smith USA
21 Jim Hardy AUS
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28 John Bertrand ? (can't tell from the FAX copy if
the AUS or the USA one)
The word from Jud is that it's been "blowing like stink". With Dennis
Conner weighing in at over 300 lbs. and each of his two crew at only
slightly less, they've been sailing in their element. Not
coincidentally all of the above are current or former America's cup
skippers. DC is said to be taking this seriously as a warm up for the
America's cup eliminations next year. He even bought a brand new
Etchells and had it delivered to Freemantle for the series. The rest
of the non residents had to make do with borrowed boats. DC was in
first place until the most recent race. A finish in the teens dropped
him down to his current 4th place. While it'll be a good workout for
the participants, it's not for sure the skills will be tranferable to
San Diego. Unless there's a profound climate change, San Diego isn't
likely to see 30+ knot winds too often.
A couple more Marblehead teams were originally going to attend but the
tough economy zilched that. Even 6 time world champion, Dave Curtis,
couldn't get his employer, North Sails, to spring for the bucks.
- gene ho
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845.534 | Law wins. | TOLAS::BARKERC | Ex. RYO, ex. UCG, soon to be ex. SBP | Mon Jan 14 1991 03:53 | 15 |
| Chris Law finally won the event, with Connor second and Gilmour,
Bertrand ( the Aussie one ) and Beashel also in the top 6.
This must be one of the most impressive group of sailors assembled
since the Fremantle Americas cup. Law has been away from competitive
sailing for a year ( so the papers say, although I did see him on board
a 50 footer during Cowes Week ), partly through illness, so he must be
particularly pleased.
Why were there so many people of the worlds top sailors there. Was
Fremantle so irresistable ?
Chris
|
845.535 | | STEREO::HO | | Mon Jan 14 1991 17:27 | 20 |
| I think that the irrestibility of Freemantle is due partly to the
presence of Dennis Connor. DC let it be known early last season that
he had his sights on the world championship. The qualification series
over the summer was to serve as sparring practice to prepare for the
America's Cup eliminations. As a result, participation has been high
in the California fleets where DC sails. Word got across the Pacific.
Most of the other top finishers are not strangers to the Etchells - I
recall seeing the names over the years in the class newsletter. DC
probably had the most recent membership. In Australia, many of the top
skippers sail in the Etchells class. In fact, it's from the top of the
class that many of their America's cup skippers were chosen. I have no
first hand experience but from what I've read, the Etchells class has a
considerably higher recognition factor among the general public there
than in the US. They certainly sell more Etchells in Aus than in the
US. What's interesting about this championship is that it was won by a
non AUS or USA skipper. I don't think that's happened in this decade
if ever.
- gene
|
845.536 | | CHEST::BARKER | Ex. RYO, ex. UCG, soon to be ex. SBP | Tue Jan 15 1991 04:20 | 14 |
| The Etchells have become seriously big in the Solent recently, with
mainly offshore skippers trading down, rather than dinghy skippers
trading up. This is the only fleet of any significant size in the UK.
Chris Law was not involved in this, so he must have been practising in
private or in some foreign fleet.
He also has considerable experience of other keelboat classes,
particularly Solings, 12 Metres and large IOR boats. His younger
brother Tim, is a good helmsman too, will probably be skippering
the Oracle-sponsered Two Tonner in the next Admirals Cup.
Chris.
|
845.537 | Key West report (second hand) | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Jan 22 1991 15:47 | 45 |
| Had dinner last night with a couple of guys who just got back from Key
West Race Week. I was VERY jealous. Anyway, some snippets:
IMS class A was won by Croppduster, a new Wylie 46. Collaboration, last
year's winner, was second. They were tied going into the last race and
basically matchraced for the win.
IMS class B was won by Rumours, a new Tripp 40, owned and sailed by Tim
Woodhouse (owner of Hood Sails), Barry Carroll (the builder), and a
third guy who is the distributor of the engines. That was the boat my
buddies were on. Secon was Lobo, the old IOR boat converted to IMS.
Third was High Noon, another new Tripp 40 sailed by Mark Plogh.
Word was that the Taylor 40's were "not competitive". Coalition and
V Max were not in the money.
The report back on the J39's was also interesting. They owed the
Tripp 40's time and yet never finished ahead of them. One of the J39's
was sailed by Ken Read, so it wasn't for lack of talent. The opinion
was that J Boats had succeeded in creating yet another boat that needs
to sail against each other, because they can't sail to their rating.
Time will tell.
The fifties were also there. All I got was that there was a great
crash at a windward mark. Seems that Carat was approaching the mark on
starboard with a new Admiral's Cup 50, Capricorno, on her windward hip.
Windquest tried to sneak in on port. Carat hit Windquest in the stern
and both boats attached themselves, forming a big "V". Capricorno
couldn't see what was happening and hit both Carat and Windquest at the
junction of the V. Windquest received a hole in the transom, no big
deal. Carat's bow was cut off about two feet back on the dech and a
bout a foot above the waterline. Capricorno's bow ripped up from the
water line to a point about six feet back on the deck and folded back
along the deck.
All rigs stayed up somehow and nobody was seriously hurt. Carat is at
Derektor's beeing fixed. Capricorno was declared a total loss. Hey
guys, this ain't Tech dingies on the Charles!
the weather was pretty good and the wind constantly 15 to 30 knots.
All in all, it sounded like it beat the hell out of working for a
living!
Dave
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845.538 | | ELWOOD::KEENAN | | Fri Feb 08 1991 09:33 | 3 |
| OK Dave J., you've got me in suspense.
What's the new boat gonna be??????
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845.539 | 1991 season so far | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Tue Feb 12 1991 17:00 | 48 |
| Hi guy's,
Re .-1 what's the new boat dave?
Well our 1991 half of the season has started a lot better than than
last year so far we have had 4 races 2 wednsday nights and one weekend
of races. In the first wednesday night race we came 2nd after a close
race with flash gordon and the next week we cleaned them up big
time.They left there #1 kite at home so we loaned them our old #1 and
they very nearly beat us to the bottom mark our new #1 reahes a lot
better and where as the rest of the fleet 2 sailed across the the tight
reach we carried ours and blew them all away and with clear air put
time on all of them up wind.
The weekend races we did is an important part of the summer racing
called Kawau weekend, a friday night race to Kawau island 30 miles
north of Auckland harbour a race around the island on saturday and a
race home on sunday with a very debauched time in between.Friday was
blowing 20kts+ at the start that eased during the race from our mooring
to the start we had to motor into it and we cut it a bit fine arriving
just as the 10min went so we went into the start not knowing when the
gun was going to go but we picked our end of the line and everyone left
us alone and got a very good start that was a tight reach with the #3
and full main having a heavy crew helped here and we cleared out to
lead the race was a tight reach to a bouy 15miles out then a lay to the
finish so it was follow the leader who happened to be us, the only
time of worry was as the wind dropped the chasing boats changed up to
the #1 genoa's, our class rules ban foils so bearheaded changes are
nesscesscary which we did better than the guys behind this was the
first time that we had beaten the uptown boats during a summer race so
we celebrated when we got there maybe a bit much as Saturday started
as a horror show with us being last around the top mark after a start
better forgotton we managed to get back to 3rd by the time we finished.
Sunday dawned with no breeze so we packed up and motored home.So we
are very happy with the start to the season our #1 genoa is getting a
bit sad after a hard season average of 2 races a week for the last
12months so that will be replaced next month also with the fractional
rig with onre set of speaders we have trouble holding it in column at
the higher end of the wind range so we going to stiffen that as well,a
trade off between weight aloft and a straight mast.
The only bad news on the horizon is that my season finishes at the
end of next week as I'm Auckland's support engineer I have to go on
training that happens to be in Sydney for 4 weeks so I'll miss the rest
of the season but will be back for the nationals.
A couple of boats launched in NZ over the last that you might be
interested in. A new Farr 2 Tonner called Brava(spelt wrong) for the Us
admirals cup team all deck fittings are hand made in titanium lots of
money $1m plus also a German Frers IMS of similar dimensions and price
even without all the carbon fibre and titanium.
Regards Revel
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845.540 | Another learning curve | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Feb 12 1991 17:46 | 28 |
| Re: -.1
Revel, I think the Farr you mean is Bravura. There is a Farr One
tonner of the same name on our West Coast. Being built by Cookson in
NZ for the AC team here.
As for us, we have a new boat. It is a Nelson/Marek designed one
tonner built in 1987. We haven't renamed it yet, but it was built as
Cooter and is currently named Pulse.
We wanted to move onto a bit higher tech boat, but wanted to stay in
the 40 foot range. Without the means to get into a new IMS boat, we
stayed in the old IOR arena. The deal was pretty creative. We don't
own Wildside anymore, but the current owner wants to sell it and we
would like to see it stay local. Actually it is a bit of a risk for us
as we are not at all sure that Wildside wouldn't beat Pulse in light
air. The only times we went head to head last year it was blowing in
the 20's.
At any rate, we are very excited and looking forward to learning our
new boat. Ofcourse we are not excited about the lumps we are going to
take until we get it going!
Revel, I don't feel too badly for you having to go to Sydney for a
month! They are known to sail a bit there as well. I'm sure you could
get aboard for a race or two while there.
Dave
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845.541 | | CHRCHL::GERMAIN | Improvise! Adapt! Overcome! | Tue Feb 19 1991 09:36 | 4 |
| Anybody know what happened to KATABATIC? It was up near my boat inthe
Central boatyard in Marblehead. But it was gone a couple weeks ago.
Gregg
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845.542 | catalogs can be hazardous to your bank account | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Tue Feb 19 1991 10:12 | 9 |
| While looking through the latest Edson catalog, I was delighted to learn
that Edson is now building carbon fiber steering wheels -- a 48" wheel
weighs only 6 lbs and costs just $2750! A conventional 48" stainless
steel wheel with an elkhide covering (which should more properly be
covering the elk) is only $850 or so, as well as many pounds heavier.
Now I suppose everyone expects me to make some tacky comment like "a
fool and his money are soon parted", but I won't. Now if only Edson
would make carbon fiber tillers .......
|
845.543 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Wed Feb 20 1991 13:01 | 3 |
| Congrats Dave!! I'm sure your experience with
Wildside will transfer pretty directly. Just remember
to bend the rig -- a *lot*.
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845.544 | The head is still porcelain | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Feb 20 1991 18:09 | 7 |
| Thanks, Dean. I'm sure we'll get you out on it this spring!
Alan, were those prices for the wheel alone or the whole assembly?
BTW, our new vessel does have a carbon fiber reinforced composite
tiller.
Dave
|
845.545 | | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Thu Feb 21 1991 09:02 | 3 |
| re .544:
The price was for the wheel only.
|
845.546 | not a good night | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Thu Feb 21 1991 16:44 | 21 |
| Well my last race of the season turned into a complete horror
show the other night just when there was a lot of incentive to do
well,one boat had a new set of Norths and another boat was brand new
competing for the first time.
It looked like a kite was on out of the start so we decided to
the weather end but watching A division who did the same thing it soon
became apparant that it wasn't such a good idea so when the gun went
we were half way down the line and not looking pretty.After a 2 sail to
the first mark for a run to the bottom mark,getting there 5th we
decided to gybe set to keep clear air.This is were things went real
bad.The mark is a nav pile and as we went to gybe we got a bit close to
the mark hooked the kite halyard around the mark after this happened
all hell broke loose,it took us about 30-40 secs to cut the halyard
I managed to free the sheet straight away but the guy was still
attached ripping our nice new kite in half.We managed to recover
everything after putting a guy on the mark to recover the kite.
We motored home early and decided to take the rig out that we were
going to this weekend anyway so we can stiffen it to stop it bending.
Hopefully I can get some sailing in over in sydney I have a contact
that I sailed across the tasman with last year.
revel
|
845.547 | | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Fri Feb 22 1991 13:53 | 7 |
| Rev,
Nice going!! We've seen a few days like that -- well, maybe
not quite *that* bad... ;)
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.548 | The British Scene. | CHEST::BARKER | Ex. RYO, ex. UCG, soon to be ex. SBP | Tue Mar 26 1991 04:29 | 39 |
| A bit more International colour.
On Sunday, I took part in the second race in the Warsash Spring series,
sponsored by Bacardi Rum, which was run in the Solent.
About 150 boats took part, with 3 CHS classes, Sigma 33's and 38's,
J24's and Sonata's each having thier own starts.
I was racing on 'Sunstone', a 1965 wooden S&S one-off which, although
its about 40 feet long, rates with the Half-tonners ( under IOR & CHS),
and is very successful, except in light airs.
Fortunately, the moderate breeze at the start gave way to a nice 18
knots, with sunshine getting in the trimmers eyes for most of the two
hours. Our new Mylar No.1 was soon replaced by a No. 2 for the beats,
where we managed to pull away from most of our rivals, except for
"Flair II", a MG 335, which won the first race, and 'Red Fox', a Laser
28. "Red Fox" was just ahead and to leeward going down the next reach,
and we made a couple of attempts to pass to windward. Their Helmsman
looked round and called "You won't get pass that way", and then
embarked on a violent luff. Unfortunately his crew weren't ready and
their kite collapsed and the boat broached. We sailed happily by to
leeward, with big grins. After two big triangles, the race finished
with "Flair" first, us second, and "Quokka", a Davidson half-tonner
third.
In class 1, there was a new Dubois 50ft IMS boat, called "Dump Truck"
which looked very impressive, along with several one-tonners, and a
two tonner called "Eagle", formally "Yeoman", which I am now trying to
get a ride on. None of the Admirals Cup contenders were out, which was
a shame.
There are six races in the series, and it finishes just before the
regular season starts.
Next weekend is Antifouling. I won't bother reporting that.
Chris.
|
845.549 | Dubois 50 | VAXUUM::FACHON | | Tue Apr 09 1991 13:43 | 5 |
| A Dubois 50 named "Dump Truck?"
Shades of "Police Car?" Haven't heard much about
Ed Dubois in a few years. What else has he done lately?
Dean
|
845.550 | Winter Approches | GIDDAY::ARLINGTON | | Tue Apr 09 1991 23:08 | 29 |
| hi guy's
Well its autumn here and the summer racing has finished but there
is the winter racing to look forward to starting in late May.Over the
summer we competed in 3 series and we achieved the following results
Wednesday night Bucklands Beach Yacht Club(BBYC)
2nd line,3rd handicap pre-Xmas,1st line,1st handicap post-Xmas,1st
line,3rd=handicap overall.
Panasonic Harbour series (BBYC) 4 out of 5 count,we missed one,
1st B divison line 3 guns and a 2nd. 4th handicap B divison.
RNZYS summer points series on Saturdays 4th overall we ended up
missing to many of these races.
So it was a relatively successful year with the major regatta
coming up this weekend being the National champs so if we do well in
this we'll be happy. Our major opposition are too numerous to list here
but the best sailors we'll be up against will be Tom Dodson who sails
IOR boats like propaganda etc,and Lesley Egnott the current womans
world keelboat champ and NZ's big hope in 470's and she has Rick Dodson
helping her Rick and Tom run Norths in NZ.
A mega crusing yacht was just launched here it was designed by
Ed Dubois,100ft plus,powered winches,carbon fibre rig,gold taps etc
that sort of thing and there is a second one of similar size but a bit
bigger being built.
Cookson's here are building yet another Farr one tonner for an
american Dave Clark from memory this is the latest main differances
being a longer cocpit area no forward hatch and according to the
article the way they do kite drops is over the side lifelines and
between the loose footed main and the boom and down the companionway
seems a tad complex.
regards revel
|
845.551 | More from UK | TOLAS::BARKERC | Ex. RYO, ex. UCG, soon to be ex. SBP | Wed Apr 10 1991 04:29 | 29 |
| Re Ed Dubios.
'Police Car' was named on the basis that nothing can catch a police
car, I am not sure that the same applies to Dump Truck. As -1
suggested, Ed has been involved in designing 'super yachts' for the
super-rich, and also a very sucessful Formula 40 Trimaran 'Full Pelt',
on which he also crewed. I think he is the designer of a new one-tonner
that is being built in UK for a Turkish owner, which will be chartered
to Lawrie Smith ( as Rothmans II ???? ) for the British Admirals Cup
trails.
Meanwhile, the two tonner in the team ( the only one in the trails ),
called 'Wings of Oracle' - owned by the Software company of that name
and mainly crewed by Royal Air Force members - has had a good start to
its season, winning 3 out of 3 at the Spi Ouest Regatta in France, with
opposition including Corum 40, the French 89 AC boat. The British
one-tonner slot still looks weak, so a lot of hope is pinned on the
above mentioned Lawrie Smith charter.
The start of the Saeson for my regular mount, the Scampi "Olivia Anne IV",
has been delayed by a slight mishap - she sank on her moorings. It will
take at least three weeks to clean her up, repaint the topsides, redo
the wiring & electronics and rebuild the engine. This is after the
insurance people approve the work etc. etc. This gives me a chance to
sail on a few other boats instead, but it could endanger our build up
towards the Fastnet race in August.
Chris
|
845.552 | North Sails Etchells Clinic | STEREO::HO | | Wed May 08 1991 09:41 | 7 |
| Dave Curtis and Jud Smith of North Sails will hold their Etchells
tuning and sailing clinic this Saturday, 5/11 at the the Eastern Yacht
Club dock at 11:00 AM in Marblehead.
Learn tuning and sail trim and get a boat ride for free.
- gene
|
845.553 | Winter racing | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Thu May 09 1991 19:10 | 22 |
|
Hi There.
Well all the summer racing is over here now and the winter racing starts
on Sunday. This must mean that up there in the north you would have to be
starting your season shortly.
In our last regatta we finished 6th out of 28 in the nationals we where
4th overall going into the last race 1 point behind 3rd and we had them behind
us by a long way and a wind shift in the last harbour race let them through
we where very disappointed we ourselves.We got a real hard time from the 3rd
placed boat at the prize giving.WE made 2 mistakes in the 5 races this was 2 too
many.
Dave hows the new boat coming along we haven't heard anything about it
for a while.
Yet another IOR boat has being lauched here, A One tonner called VIBES
destined for the american AC team an exschoolmate will be sailing foredeck on it.
NZ is building these IOR boats but no-one here can afford to campaign them let
alone build them.NZ will not be going to the Admiral Cup this year.Tom Dodson
put a 3 chartered boat team together but couldn't get the funding for the
one-tonner about $us100k.
Regards Revel.
|
845.554 | Where we stand | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Thu May 09 1991 21:27 | 42 |
| Revel, must be nice having TWO racing seasons!
Yes ours is about to start up. Next week, in fact. We may or may not
make it. Here's the story.
Harrier was sucessfully raced by its previous owner who did little
maintenance and zero cosmetic work on it. We are a little more
concerned about such things. We spent several hundred man-hours
sanding down all that bad Micron 33, filling and fairing, and painting
with VC Offshore. Then more sanding and burnishing with bronze wool.
We also needed a new shaft and cutlass bearing. No zinc on the boat
last year helped that.
THEN we started above the water line. Buffed out the hull and took off
the old name. Payed some bozo way too much to put on a new name. The
deck paint was coming off in sheets. Stripped, sanded, filled,
patched, and repainted the entire deck. That was totally unexpected
work. So, while we expected to deliver the boat from East Greenwich,
RI to Marblehead this weekend, we are a week behind and will do it next
weekend. This weekend we will actually sail this thing for the first
time in Naragansett bay before taking off on a 20 hour delivery.
So...if we start the trip at sun-up next weekend (the 18th) we should
be in Marblehead sometime around midnight the same day. First race is
Sunday the 19th. Theoretically, we could make it. Hmmm.
Got our rating. 63. Ouch! But at least the Taylor 40's are also 63
as well as the C&C 37R's. Don't yet know what the Tripp 40's will
rate. Probably 60. An opportunity for Bo' and Wags!
To say we are excited is a vast understatement. However, we are amazed
nobody has picked up on Wildside yet. If you have a boat, the owners
(Oceanus Institute) will do a great deal where you trade yours in for
tax write off and throw $25 k in and the boat is yours. As an example,
they were talking to a guy who had a C&C 34. They would take his boat
in at a value of $75 k. Say he pays an incremental tax rate of 33%,
then that is worth $25 k in lower taxes next year. Then he pays $25 k
to Oceanus and gets a much bigger boat for the same amount he had in
his old boat. Just has to wait until next February to get his $25 k
back. Now is the time to be creative!
Dave
|
845.555 | How much for a 85 one-tonner? | CHEST::BARKER | I've got those Simplification blues.... | Fri May 10 1991 05:52 | 21 |
| In the UK, the summer season is well underway, although I haven't been
allowed out recently ( Baby expected v. soon ). Our boat is still being
worked on after it's sinking, and probably won't be ready in time for
us to prepare for the Fastnet race in August.
However, some friends have just sold their Davidson half-tonner, and
bought a 1985 Joubert/Nivelt One tonner called Fever, a near sistership
to the German AC boat Diva. I hope to get a few trips on her soon. I
don't know how much they paid for it, but it was advertised at �35,000
( $60,000 or so ), including 1990 sails, which seemed amazingly cheap to
me. There really is no market for old IOR boats now, except modern,
competitive one-tonners. Channel Handicap, which is what most offshore
racing is done under over here, penalises most IOR designs in favour of
heavier hull forms, and IMS, which has really been struggling to get a
foothold here, seems to favour non-IOR boats too, although there are so
few well-sailed IMS-rated boats here that it is hard to tell.
I'm looking forward to some real sailing soon.
Chris
|
845.556 | sounds right | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Fri May 10 1991 10:21 | 13 |
| IMS does NOT severely penalize IOR designs. New IMS boats being built
over here resemble IOR designs without all the things that make IOR
boats slow like bumps, bustles, etc. IMS favors fast boats. Older IOR
boats can be very fast. Ofcourse new IMS designs are generally faster,
but multiple times the cost.
The price your friends paid for Fever sounds about right if it is in
very good condition. It's been advertised in Seahorse for a LONG time.
One tonners are a lot of boat for little money. Wouldn't want to
cruise one, but as a challenging racing platform, they are hard to
beat! 'Course I'm a bit partial, being on my second tonner.
Dave
|
845.557 | Rating Changes for 1991 | EPSYS::SAMUELSON | | Fri May 10 1991 13:36 | 4 |
| The PHRF ratings for the Taylor 40's and the C&C 37 R in New England remain
as last year at 66. The rating in Long Island Sound for these boats is 63.
This is also unchanged from last year. The IMS ratings have changed by a small
amount ( ~ 0.1 second/mile ) because of the changes in the crew weight rule.
|
845.558 | Somebody's wrong | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Fri May 10 1991 14:57 | 4 |
| Then Brian Tedeschi is lying to me. He just got his rating and it's 63
from PHRF New England.
Dave
|
845.559 | John C. ain't that nice! | MILKWY::WAGNER | | Fri May 10 1991 15:09 | 11 |
|
Wired would be PSYCHED to have a rating as high as 60. Don't count
on it.
We reached along, she looks less impressive as the excitement fore-
casted. Next handicapper's meeting Tuesday, I think, at Bump's new
place. I'll try to find out.
Don't know squat about Coalition's winter activity, if any.
Scott, heading up the stick AGAIN!!!!
|
845.560 | We're both correct | EPSYS::SAMUELSON | | Fri May 10 1991 15:17 | 9 |
| The "base" rating of the Taylor 40's hasn't changed. However, Coalition is
racing this year with a longer boom. Thus the 3 second penalty. So we're
both correct. Hugh raced two years ago with a penalty pole (which by the
way belongs to Brian from what I hear). It is possible that Hugh may go
with a longer boom and/or the longer pole.
This is kind of like being ahead in an overnight race. All you have to do is
start spinning an empty winch and all kind of commotion breaks out behind
you.
|
845.561 | .... continued.... | EPSYS::SAMUELSON | | Fri May 10 1991 15:27 | 13 |
| ......
As far as Wired goes, I talked with Steve G. a few weeks ago. He's trying to
get his new Tripp 40 into the 40 Ft. Class band ( IMS greater than 605 ).
His is a much different boat than those at Key West. Its a masthead rig with
much more ballast. This is before the boat was measured. So a rating of
around 60 wouldn't surprise me.
After racing well over 20 races with the Taylor's last year (in both IMS and
PHRF) there was one race that I can remember where one or the other of
us won on corrected versus wall clock time in IMS (since our IMS ratings are
significantly different at various wind speeds) or would have corrected out
in PHRF with a 3 second differential.
|
845.562 | Sorry for the confusion! | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Fri May 10 1991 16:03 | 10 |
| Right... I called Bump and found out that Coalition does, indeed have a
longer boom. My mistake!!! Now, how the hell are we going to give
time to a standard Taylor and 37R?
Could be a long summer! The 60 rating would be for the masthead
version rating ~605 IMS. Just a guess, no fact to base it on.
I guess the JFK will get it all sorted out.
Dave
|
845.563 | | DICKNS::FACHON | | Tue May 14 1991 14:47 | 9 |
| So Dave, how was your first sail in Harrier?
Looking forward to seeing her run her paces.
We may be at the JFK, but with major tuning to
be done, getting to the line this Sunday will be
a trick.
Welcome to the '91 season, mates!
|
845.564 | Maybe someday we'll put a sail up | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue May 14 1991 16:42 | 14 |
| STILL haven't sailed her. Got the engine going and then the Loran
crapped out. Worked on that for many hours (without sucess). By that
time the wind in the bay was 28-34 knots. We only had 4 guys with us
and decided not to break anything. We sail up to M'head this weekend.
Did the same thing when we bought Wildside. Then we literally
launched, started the engine, and left Newport for points north! This
time we have a liferaft in case things don't work out as well.
Trying to make this Sunday's race. If so it will be with zero crew
practice. We'll still be sorting things out. We'll also be seeing the
racing sails for the first time. Should make for some good arguments
on trimming.
Dave
|
845.565 | Play time ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Got some things to talk about ... | Wed May 15 1991 08:39 | 15 |
| Wags splashed down on Saturday. Went out sailing Saturday PM and again
on Sunday. Since the only instrument on the boat that worked was the
stereo, I wasn't really sure how hard the wind was blowing. But Sunday
it sure was honkin'.
Tomorrow night is Wags' first race of the season.
Won't make this week-end's race. I'll be up in the White Mts. feeding
the mosquitos. I'll be at the JFK ... on Bo' if she races, on Wags
otherwise.
It sure feels fine to be sailing again ...
... Bob
|
845.566 | PHRF Handicaps. | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Wed May 15 1991 20:19 | 11 |
|
Hi Guys,
Excuse my ignorance but how do the phrf handicaps work up your way
here in NZ,PHRF handicaps are express as percentage (ours is 0.8635) that is
multiplied by the eplased time to give the corrected. Not that we have to worry
about them that often.
But the best way to stop worring about them is to race one design.
Regards Revel
|
845.567 | Time on Distance Handicapping | TUNER::HO | | Thu May 16 1991 18:58 | 28 |
| The practice in New England is to use time on distance handicapping
which assigns a handicap number in seconds/mile. The seconds refer to
the number of seconds longer it will take the boat in question to sail a
mile than a theoretical scratch boat.
Conceptually, corrected time for a given boat is calculated as follows:
corrected time = elapsed time - (R - RSC) * (# miles in race course)
where R is the PHRF handicap of the boat in question and RSC is the
handicap of the scratch boat for that race.
Never having scored a race, I don't know if that's how they do it in
practice.
Boats with lower handicaps are said to "owe" time to those with higher
handicaps. In order to win, a faster boat (lower handicap) must "save"
her time on a slower one by finishing ahead of her by a number of
seconds equal to the length of the course times the difference in their
handicaps.
The throwaway phrase "Are we having fun yet?" has some real meaning
after a PHRF race when it is necessary to count the seconds between
finishing times to determine who beat whom. With the time on time
system, it seems like you'd have to calculate corrected times for boath
boats and calculate the difference.
- gene
|
845.568 | | ELWOOD::KEENAN | | Fri May 17 1991 10:22 | 7 |
| Gene,
Will you be competing in the E-22 N.A's at Marblehead in Sept?
I have crew, will travel.
Paul
|
845.569 | a system that encourages 2nd place finishes ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Got some things to talk about ... | Fri May 17 1991 12:00 | 23 |
| JYC's Thursday night series adopted time-on-time handicapping last
season. You need a fappin' laptop computer to figure out who won a
race, but the concept is that the longer you're out there the higher
your rating is. It's supposed to favor the slower boats.
Unfortunately, last season Wags won the series by a record margin. So
this season they've added an "anti-Wags rule" ... the winner of a race
takes a 20 second/mile hit to their rating for the next race. If you
win again, you take another 10 sec/mile hit. If you don't win, they
give you another 10 sec/mile back.
Last night was the first race of the season. We got to the starting
line late, having waited around too long for a crew member, and were
about a minute late crossing the line. Just as we crossed, and then
tacked for clear air, the wind shifted and suddenly we were fetching
the mark and the whole rest of the fleet had overstood ... we were
about a minute in front of the fleet getting to the first mark. Never
looked back from there, and easily won the race.
Next week, we rate 70 ...
... Bob
|
845.570 | What's the conversion factor? | TUNER::HO | | Fri May 17 1991 13:06 | 5 |
| Bob:
How do you convert time-on-distance handicaps to time-on-time?
- gene
|
845.571 | Who won? | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Fri May 17 1991 14:17 | 4 |
| The guys on Rustler said they won the Wednesday night race. They
foolin' with me??
Dave
|
845.572 | Don't underestimate | EPSYS::SAMUELSON | | Fri May 17 1991 15:06 | 9 |
| I'm not in the Wednesday night hunt this year, so I don't know who did what
to whom. However, I'm not at all surprised when I hear that Rustler won
anything. Wayne Cullihan, one of the owners, is a world class sailer. He
did a lot of crewing with Tom Blackleller on Formula 40's. Wayne has
sailed with us a few times. He's V E R Y good. Rustler is a short rig
Express 37. The Rustler crowd was quite miffed last year to find that
Jazz's (a tall rig Express 37) rating was changed from 69 to 72 and Rustler's
rating remained the same. My understanding is that Jazz is back at 69. Is
that the case?
|
845.573 | No Etchells NA's | 32542::HO | | Mon May 20 1991 10:30 | 18 |
| re .568
Like Dennis Connor, I have but one boat, one mast, and a limited number
of old sails. So, Touche will probably abstain.
The not trivial hurdle of qualification will probably preclude
competing anyway.
Touche would have to finish in the top half of the fleet to be able to
attend.
Given that Touche only makes it out to half the races anyway, that
means finishing at or near the top in the remaining ones. A somewhat
unlikely occurence.
- gene
|
845.574 | A lesson in stupidity | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon May 20 1991 10:37 | 29 |
| Harrier was absent from the racing this weekend. We tried to deliver
the boat Friday night in spite of the forecast of the front coming
through. The logic was that we get as far up Buzzards Bay before the
wind turned Northeast. Out crew was very experienced and we knew we
were taking a risk.
Well, to make a long story short, we made it through the thunderstorms
wet but moving well with the Southwest breeze. Then at midnight, just
off Buzzard's Bay tower (Texas Tower) the wind shifted to the
northeast, went from 11 to 30 knots, and dropped in temperature from
the sixties to the forties. All this happened in less than 30 seconds.
After six hour of battling ever increasing winds up to forty knot, and
steady at 30-35 knots we had ripped our main, broken our tiller, had
one crew very seasick, broken a check stay, and mad an incremental 8
miles.
At 6:30 AM I listened to marine weather radio and heard no improvement
in the near future. We decided to turn back to Newport. We put up a
#3 with no main and surfed back at 10-11 knots the whole way. We got
back in two hours what had taken us eight to gain!
We were one sorry looking group pulling in Saturday morning. The
lesson is that we ignored the weather forecast in its severity and paid
the price. Buzzard's Bay in a Northeast wind kicks up some pretty good
waves. We observed 10 footers and that was confirmed by NOOA.
Swallowed lots of seawater! Never again!
Dave
|
845.575 | | VERGA::FACHON | | Mon May 20 1991 11:13 | 32 |
|
We had hoped to see Harrier, but figured the forecast had done you
in. Didn't know how accurate we were.
The first race was a gem. Couldn't start the season any better.
Gentle southeast-to-south breeze, 7 -- 13 knots, and 10 to 15 degree shifts.
Almost cloudless skies, and a calm sea, and the trees on shore are so
green we kept on losing visual on the final mark, a can,
as it blended into the camoflage of growth behind. It was cool enough
going up the pike to require jackets, and downwind we just basked.
Can feel a wincing tingle to the sun, however, that portends of
serious burns to come. Take your sun protection *seriously* this
season!! The ozone layer aint what it used to be, for whatever
reason. I think we'll be hearing more about that soon.
Anyway, there were 11 boats in class A, with a rating spread of 29
to 90. *That's* a bit rediculous, but "Goose," at 29, is the real
odd man out. I believe the top three finishers were Claddagh, Sheharazahd
(sp?), and Bodacious. Rustler did not race, although we saw her
out sailing. Jazz was there, and I think she's still a 72, although
I didn't look at the scratch sheet. We just race her boat-for-boat in
any event. Claddagh looks like she'll cvontinue her winning ways.
As ever, her 75 rating seems ludicrous as she goes boat-for-boat with
66 and 63 raters half the time. They *are* good sailors, but I'd
think they'd get a little bored with their rating.
Bo does not compete next weekend.
Later,
Dean
|
845.576 | Human Slingshot near Buzzards Bay... | AKO539::KALINOWSKI | | Mon May 20 1991 13:45 | 67 |
|
re 845.574
Sorry to hear of the grief you took Friday night Dave. The wind got
me on Saturday.
I went down to lost lake in freetown Ma. It is about 5 miles due west
of New Bedford. The sky was clear driving south until the intersection
of 495/95 saturday morning. Real cold when we got there. The wind was
20 knts and gusting. Nobody wanted to go out for learn to sail day, so
I said I would go first as soon as the skys cleared.
Big mistake. the winds were blowing nuclear, and veering 40 degrees
without warning. I didn't have my normal experience crew on board and
was light 60 lbs of beef. To go upwind required putting the travelers
out 1/3 and easing the sails. The also caused us to foot a LOT. When a
gust world hit, we would ease out while hiking. I got my crew on a wire
off the extension wings and that helped a bit. Then we hot hit by a
puff followed by a 40-60 veer with another puff.
I had a killer pitchpole as I couldn't release the main
fast enough. As I flew (would have gotten a 9.5 if the olympics)
forward, I knocked the crew off the wire (the guy must be part crow to
still have been out on the perch) and hard into the water. During this
slingshot, I crossed the the jibsheet the crew was holding. It tangled
around my ankle. The boat went in slightly to leeward and forward. As I
hit the water, I felt the line stop my trajectory, and knew I was
tangled. I fought to get to the surface to yell for help before the
boat had a chance to turtle taking me down with it. As the boat came up on
it's side, I quickly grabbed a spreader and a big gulp of air in case I
needed it soon. I was able to untangle myself without much more
incident. The wind flipped the boat on top of us on the first try
righting her. The second attempt was a charm. Once we got the boat
sorted out we sailed her for about an hour, but it was insane with the
veers. We would be going warp-factor 6 when a veer would put the boat
into instant irons and the mast would start coming down on us. Once
back, we noticed there was chunk missing from 1 hull and stress lines
on the other. Evidently during our sailing we hit a submerged log and
didn't notice (Not hard to do in these conditions).
The rest of the gang waited until 3 in the afternoon to go out. 6
people on a hobie 21, and it still moved along!!!
What I learned from this is:
1. Never go out with a knife taped to the lifejacket. Because I didn't
bring the spinnaker, I figured there was no chance of getting tangled.
I now know better.
2. Watch out for gusty days with veers. If you let the traveler out and
loosen the sail, you need to foot more. At this point you are
really a potental accident. This is esspeccially true on lakes where
gusty days do bizzare things to the air.
3. You sometimes need to work the traveler instead of the mailsheet,
as the mainsheet doesn't release fast enough for a nuclear gust. 3
times tougher since there is very little mechanical advantage.
4. Always make sure you have a buddy system when going out on gusty
days. knowing 20 people were watching me gave me a feeling of security
out there.
Don't know the damage yet. Hope to have it fixed by next week before
the race season starts.
john
|
845.577 | Correction to .576 | AKO539::KALINOWSKI | | Mon May 20 1991 13:49 | 7 |
| RE .576
1 should say never go out WITHOUT a knife.
john
|
845.578 | JFK regatta help sought | STAR::KENNEY | | Mon May 20 1991 15:13 | 28 |
|
Questions about the JFK this weekend. The sailing club in Lowell
asked me to take one of their boats and race in the JFK. They did not
have to twist my arm all that hard, until I found out what the entry
fee is plus late fee. The questions is does anybody know where the
one-designs are supposed to put in. I have called Marina Bay a couple
of times and can never hook up with the person who knows. Also can I
bring the boat down Friday evening and rig it up on the trailer and
launch Saturday. Paying a mooring fee for a dinghy just does not sit
all that well. A couple of other questions:
1) Can somebody provide directions to the marina where I put the boat
in.
2) Directions to the library for the skippers meeting.
3) I do not have a tide table I sail on a river no tide. I need to
know the tides for the area where the race is run, for Friday,
Saturday, and Sunday.
Thanks,in advance for any help you can provide. Also is the
organization for this regatta typical for events around here. The only
other one I have dealt with is the Red Lobster Cup in Florida. What a
difference, cheaper, provides more support (call them get an immediate
friendly answer with all the details), not to mention tons of free food
and drink.
Forrest
Ps. I can find Boston, and LOGAN in beyond that I am lost
without good directions, or a detailed map.
|
845.579 | Match Racing agianst Fleet | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Mon May 20 1991 19:14 | 30 |
| I wasn't sure were to put this,as the agruement was raging in the america's cup
topic but we spent the last weekend match racing and for my money it has a lot
going for it.
Every year the 3 main one design keelboat fleets hold a match racing
contest with the top 2 skippers from each going through to the nation finals
raced in the farr MRX so the competion is fiece.There where 8 boats doing it
and it was raced on a round robin so there where 7 races.Match racing is much
more intense than fleet racing.At our nationals last month we had 28 boats
on quite short triangle courses and if you make a mistake you'd drop a place
maybe a couple that can be made up.In a match race you make a mistake and you
come last.The races are over a windard/leeward 1 mile course with the
start/finish below the bottom mark making an off the wind finish we also had
on the water judges who after the race came over to explain their decisions.
Its very exciting racing and very hard work,lots of aches and pains this
morning.From the 5min gun its all go as you enter the start area and up the
beat with the boat behind trying everything to force an error on the leading
boat,the other thing we noticed was that boats at the nationals that gave us no
problems with speed where much more competive in the one on one racing and
could foot it much better.The only way we shake one of them was to luft head
to wind just after we tacked on to the lay line,we recovered much better and
went away from him.The other really good thing is that as the races are so short
if you are getting hammered its all over quickly and you can go on to the next
one.Our record after the weekend was 4 wins 3 seconds to put us in 4th place.
The only other real problem with match arcing is that we dont do enough
of it.
Regards Revel.
P.S. Dave dont you just love it when for one reason or another you dont make
the start line and everyone tells what a great day it was.
|
845.580 | | STEREO::HO | | Tue May 21 1991 09:56 | 13 |
| re .578
If all else fails, try calling Community Boating in Boston. Some one
from there usually enters a Mercury in the JKF and may know all the
logistical details.
If the library in question is the Kennedy Library, take the UMASS,
South Boston, Bayside Exposition exit off the Southeast Xway. Since
they re-number the exits daily, I don't know the exit number. But If
you go past the Ho Chi Minh gas tanks, you've gone too far. It's about
2 exits past the incinerator with three stacks.
- gene
|
845.581 | 90% of the way to the race | STAR::KENNEY | | Tue May 21 1991 17:15 | 16 |
| Gene,
Thanks, I believe I have it sorted out now. I called Community
before I entered the note they sent me to UMASS. I called Mark
Hamilton at UMASS, and he told me what to do. If I can get the boat to
him by 16:00 he will keep it in at his place. If not he told me to take
it to Savin Hill Yacht Club and use their locked storage yard. He is a
connected up with them some way, and will sort out the details. Mark
said that the people at Marina Bay are supposed to know what to do with
the One Design Fleet. But he did not seem suprised when I said they
seemed to think that what I wanted to do was impossible. Seems that
they are more interested in the larger PHRF boats.
Forrest
Ps. Anybody else sailing in the One-Design fleet at the JFK.
Only a couple dozen more details to work out.
|
845.582 | JFK Regatta ... B-Fleet Report | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Mon May 27 1991 20:52 | 112 |
| This week-end was perfect sailing weather for the 6th annual JFK
Regatta. I'll give the report for B-fleet, where I sailed on Wags.
Hopefully we'll hear from Dave, Scott, and Forrest on how their
fleets made out (were there any other Sailing Noters there?).
The B-fleet range was 80-110 PHRF, so all those 84-rated boats that'll
be racing in A-fleet most of this season were there. There were a
total of 17 boats in the fleet, and 5 of us rated the same ... the
J-33's Io and Madrigal, the Soverel 33 Katabatic, and the J-36's Wags
and High Zoot. Also in the "very competitive" category were two
90-rated boats ... Dark Horse (Frers 36) and Celista (Peterson 37).
Among the higher rated boats in the fleet, we considered Reggae (a very
well-sailed Frers 33) the biggest threat. This was definitely the
strongest B-fleet we'll see in these parts till the PHRF New Englands,
and we expected some very competitive racing to occur.
Saturday was a perfect racing day, with westerly winds clocking slowly
to the northwest and building slightly as the day progressed. B-fleet
got kinda shafted in the racing though, due in part to race committee
error. They set the line such that the boat end was favored by about
30 degrees. Then, when the ensuing (and hardly unexpected) pile-up
threatened to push about 40 tons of going_fast_with_no_place_to_go
racing yachts into the committee boat they prudently decided to fire
a general recall signal and reset the line. Unfortunately this put us
at the end of the racing sequence, and with the postponement to reset
the line, left us hanging around the starting line for another hour
and a half. Then the race committee decided to send us on the same
course as the D, E, F, and G classes ... forcing us to sail our race
through four slower fleets ... ? ? ? !
The course was a 7.2 mile three-leg upwind, downwind, upwind course.
We made our most serious tactical mistake of the week-end just a few
minutes before the race started, when we decided to hoist the light #1
genoa rather than the heavy. With about a minute to go in the starting
sequence the wind had started building, and a minute into the race it
was up to 18 kts and the tactician was calling for a sail change.
Although it went quickly and without a problem, it still cost us enough
position to force tactics we wouldn't have chosen just to get clear
air and boat speed.
By the time we got to the windward mark we had managed to settle down
and pass all of our fleet except Io, Celista, and High Zoot. We also
had caught up with the trailing edge of G-fleet. At the mark rounding
we managed to get inside position around the mark, and came out of it
cleanly passing High Zoot, who had to give room to another boat.
We set our chute and started passing the slower G-fleet and F-fleet
boats, with Zoot and us exchanging favorable positions and maintaining
a boatlength or so position relative to each other the entire leg. At
the leeward mark they reversed the tactic we'd used on them at the
previous mark, and used another boat as a screen to get inside position,
while forcing us to take the long way around.
When we finally got around the mark we split tacks with the three
leading B-fleet boats, going for clear air and boat speed. When we
rejoined them we had made enough time to just edge out High Zoot,
crossing the finish line third in our fleet, behind Io and Celista.
On corrected time, Celista won the race and Reggae took 2nd, Io took
5th, Wags took 7th, and High Zoot took 8th ... 1 minute and 47 seconds
separated Celista and High Zoot ... now THAT'S what I call a close
sailboat race ... ;^)
Sunday's race was a different affair. The wind was from the northeast,
holding pretty steady between 65 and 75 degrees most of the day. They
were predicting a shift to the southeast, and although it never happened
it played a major role in the outcome of the race. The course was a
simple upwind to Newcombe's Ledge Whistle and back again ... about 22
miles.
Almost immediately after the start of the race, 15 of the 17 B-fleet
boats followed virtually the entire A-fleet to the right side of the
course, expecting the favorable wind shift. We decided to head for the
left side and hope for less waves closer to land. High Zoot decided to
come play with us, and it became a match race, miles from the rest of
the fleet, during that upwind leg. We managed to get on top of Zoot,
and maintained that position long enough to force them to foot off for
clear air. But they hung close to us, and it turned out that we made
the correct decision We approached Newcombe's Whistle with the trailing
edge of A-fleet, about 85 seconds in front of High Zoot, and about 6
to 7 minutes in front of the next B-fleet boats ... Dark Horse, Io and
Celista.
We rounded the mark and just decided to play the middle of the course,
since the wind was holding pretty steady with 3-5 degree oscillations.
We made about a bazillion gybes on the way back, playing every wind
shift. It worked, because we stretched our lead on High Zoot to about
six minutes, while the rest of the fleet continued to fall further
behind each time we looked. Dark Horse and Io decided to bang the left
corner and basically sailed themselves out of any chance at a top
finish. Reggae and Celista made strong bids to make their time on us,
basically doing what we did. But we took the gun and finished with a
1st on corrected time. Reggae took 2nd, and overall fleet honors for
the regatta. Celista came in 5th, and took second overall. We took
third overall for the fleet. I didn't see the official figures, but I
don't think there was more than a 2 minute difference between 1st and
5th on Sunday either ... another close race ... ;^)
Basically, the sailing just doesn't get any better than that. Plenty
of wind and sunshine, and great competition. Fortunately, the racing
more than made up for the lack of social life at Marina Bay this
season. The tent was pretty dead on Saturday night, and Sunday folks
seemed to just want to get the awards over with and go home. Too bad,
this is one of the things that used to set this regatta apart from most
others.
Forrest, congrats. I was standing too far back to hear where you
placed, but I did recognize you heading up for a trophy. Wanna tell us
about it ???
... Bob
|
845.583 | One design report | STAR::KENNEY | | Mon May 27 1991 22:07 | 123 |
|
To answer the question about how I did. I was in first, Saturday
after odds on favorite had massive brain fade. He went around the
course the wrong way and got the boat following him to do the same
thing. Sunday I became the boat to sit on, I needed two seconds to
win, and had two thirds. But I have no room to complain it was my
first and second days of sailing this season, with a crew who I have
never sailed with before. I went in with the goal of having a good
time, anything else was icing on the cake.
The one design fleet seems to be the forgotten part of the JFK.
They sent out no announcements, and provided little to no assistance.
I owe a big thanks to Mark Hamilton at UMASS, and Jack Shaw at Savin
Hill Yacht club. Jack let us the club ramp, and facilities without
even knowing we were coming (a little breakdown in communications).
The one design fleets broke down as follows:
a) Thunderbirds 2
b) Stars 5
c) Hustlers 3 or 4 I forget
d) Lasers 3
e) Mercuries 5
f) Snipes 1 - never showed at the line
Saturday was a nice warm day and the wind was pretty consistent
with a couple of large holes in it.
Race 1:
Was a windward leeward marks to starboard (hence the confusion). I
got the start sequence messed up and was about 1 minute late for the
start. I was fourth around the windward mark but had a got laugh. I
watched the first and second place boats round to port. The course
took us down the channel to the leeward mark. This was really stupid
mixing 15' boats in with all the traffic. I just love being rolled by
a 42' sports fisherman. I made up a little time on the last windward
leg but ended up fourth corrected to second because of the two DSQs.
Race 2:
Triangle marks to port this time and everybody went around clean. I
got a poor start and was fourth over the line. I picked off one boat
on the first leg, and then held my own on the two reaches. On the next
windward leg I played the shore of Thompsons Island and picked up a
good lift. I crossed the fleet in first but failed to cover. I ended
up second by about 30 seconds. Again the reach legs took us through
the channel twice.
Race 3: Another triangle on a shortened course with no trips
through the channel. Got a middle of the pack start and was second at
the windward mark. The first place boat took a flier and and got real
lucky and never looked back. I was lifted to the mark, and had two
boat who over stood the mark reaching down. I was not sure if they had
an overlap or not and left them room. The fourth place boat hit the
third place boat and shoved both of them in front of me. I was not
sure if I had a legitimate case for a protest and let it slide. The
resulting mess let a boat get in front of me and I chased him to line.
Third by about 10 seconds.
Got to the dock late Saturday, and found that the rudder track had
pulled away at the bottom. We were not sure if the bolt holding it in
had pulled out, or broken off. We were not happy, and got lost on the
way to Marina Bay for the protest hearing. Another boat had filed on
the same incident, and I got to avoid the whole protest hearing circus.
Long drive home working out schemes of how to fix the boat it if the
bolt had sheared off.
Sunday got down a little later than planned and thrashed to get the
boat fixed. The bolt had backed out simple fix except for a couple of
hundred jelly fish. We had misplaced the vang, and I ran all over
trying track it down. Sunday the wind had clocked around and got up to
the point where the club generally forces people to reef, or park the
boats. In addition the stop to hold the rudder in place had broken off
thank god for duct tape. We were late off the dock and headed out to
the line. Slogged out to the line in conditions that I almost never
get, to sail in. The fifth place boat in our fleet decide to stay on
the dock after looking at the waves, and wind. We slogged out to the
line in time to just catch the warning gun for the first fleet. The
other boats from Community Boating decided we were a threat after
Saturday, and one boat sat on us all the time. Nothing blatant but
they were really supporting each other and never letting us get clear
air. Saturday they left us alone assuming we were no threat.
Race 1:
Triangle got a middle of the pack start, and was second at the
windward mark. Played games all the way down the first reach and
rounded poorly. This let the boat chasing us get inside and we played
more games on the last reach. I was playing the nice guy and got
jumped on for my trouble. Went around the last reach mark in third,
and we played I tack you tack all the way to the line.
Race 2:
Same course I was in a good position at the start, but thought I
was early and stopped the boat. I was wrong and got over third and
could never get clear enough air to do anything about it. Went around
the windward mark in third, could never get a clean inside position, or
a clear overlap at the marks. Played I tack you tack game again. Live
and learn.
We had another boat breakage on Sunday our jib sheet car exploded
when a screw backed out under the load. We had added cam cleats to the
car and the screw holding the whole thing together let go. This hurt
our pointing by about 3 degrees on starboard tack. This turned out
the be the predominate tack on the windward legs in both races Sunday
due to wind direction, current, and course layout. When it let go it
looked like the crew was going over the side but he managed to hang
onto the boat and keep from falling out. All in all an exciting, cold
and wet day. What a start for both of us a major workout I am still
sore, and a third place finish.
At the tent afterward I got to talk with the winner, and second
place boat. They almost fell out of their chairs when I told them it
was my third regatta, and counting the 5 races I was up to about 20
races in my life. I also let them know that it was the first time in
the boat this season for myself, and my crew, as well as the first time
as a team. They were not happy, they have been sailing and racing
since April, and three of the four boats from Community the skipper and
the crew have been racing as a team for years. I had a good time but
at $40 to enter plus the hassle of towing the boat I am not sure if I
will do it again. I am also trying to decide if I should do the Lipton
cup.
Forrest
|
845.584 | A fleet | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue May 28 1991 14:38 | 56 |
| The view from A-fleet was pretty good. We sailed our boat with a full
crew for the first time EVER Saturday. It showed. We had a great
start, cutting Jazz right out of the picture. They love to barge and
one of these days we're going to have to hit him good to teach him a
lesson. But loud cursing did the trick on Saturday. We did well most
of the way up the windward leg until a bad shift put us around the mark
fourth or fifth out of eleven. Downwind we did okay until a jibe mark
to a reaching leg. We screwed up the jibe and had to continue to sail
low for a few minutes to work it out. That put us out of spinnaker
reaching and into jib reaching. Boats to weather of us kept their
chutes up and walked on us. Lost another boat on that leg. The final
leg was yet another reach back to the finish with no tactical way to
make up time.
Course was 18 plus miles long with only 4 miles of upwind work, four
miles of downwind work and ten miles of reaching. Pretty interesting,
eh? Yawn.
We did learn one critical thing. The new Tripp 40's are blazingly
fast. They owe us 9-12 seconds a mile depending on the rig and weight
trim. We need every second of it! Wired, the masthead version,
revelled in the heavy air with her 1600 lbs. of internal ballast. Took
off like a bullet!
Sunday was even windier with uncomfortable seas. We put up the heavy
#1 to power through. Counting down to the ten minute gun was
10,9,8,7,6, BANG! Only the bang wasn't from the committee boat but
from our vang blowing up! Pulled the fixture that attaches it to the
boom right trough the bottom of the boom after breaking the fixture in
half. Poor design. We examined it after and saw the weld where it had
been fixed before. A new, heavier version is being made for us.
Without a vang our downwind work was crippled. We put together a
preventer system, but you can't jibe very often or safely.
Anyway, we went to the right looking for the big shift to the
southeast. We had the breeze at 45-55 the entire upwind leg. Gave up
and tacked with the rest of the fleet except for Scherezade and Wired,
who kept going right. Should have stayed with them. A last minute
shift to about 65 payed off BIG TIME for those two boats. At the
windward mark we went back out to sea looking for the shift. Never
came, and we couldn't jibe at will. Four boats we had buried at the
windward mark came back to beat us on the 11 mile downwind leg. Stuff
happens.
Wired was the first over the line and would have saved her time except
for one little thing. She was over early at the start and got no gun!
The committee had been protested the prior day for reading out sail
numbers of those over early and had given out a wrong number. so they
decided not to read out any numbers on Sunday. Too bad. Wired sailed
a heck of a race.
So...we have a bunch of work to do on boatspeed and crew work, but
overall we're happy with the new beast.
Dave
|
845.585 | How did the protest end up saturday | STAR::KENNEY | | Tue May 28 1991 15:15 | 14 |
| Dave,
Did you hear how the protest came out, I was waiting for the
decision on the protest I was part of when one of PHRF fleet people
asked to borrow my rule book. I listened to them for a couple minutes
and wandered off when I got back they were gone. They left my rule
book on the desk, and I presumed they were in the hearing. I wanted to
get home to hunt down the parts to repair the boat and did not wait to
hear how they did. When they borrowed the book they sounded pretty
angry with the race committee. Under the same condition I would have
been very very mad.
Forrest
|
845.586 | Is there another race soon? | EPS::SAMUELSON | | Tue May 28 1991 17:10 | 51 |
| View from afar....
Saturday.
B fleet was lucky, the comedy boat decided to reset the starting line for
them. A fleet had a line that you could sort of fetch on port tack (boat end
favored by about 30 degrees). So we stayed as far away from the boat end as
we dared - but boy were our ears scorched! The wind was around 8 knots.
Light #1 for us. After the start, the wind immediately built to 10+ knots.
This is well over our light #1 range. Somehow we managed to convice ourselves
that changing down wasn't a good idea. We also have a dacron main that is two
plus years old. It is the only main this boat has ever had. It has well over
130 races on it (several of them overnighters), plus all the deliveries (Block
Island twice, Buzzards Bay twice, Manhassett) and booze cruises. The best we
could do was a true wind angle of about 55 degrees. By the time we got
through messing with the main, worrying about finding a lane after starting
well down the line, sailing 10 degrees low and slow with the wrong head sail
and failing to fetch the weather mark for the nth time, we were looking at a
solid dfl. No hope of recovering. Couldn't tell you much about wind shifts
or tactics. For us there were none. I guess there are always a lot of
excuses for sailing a poor race. Did I miss any?
Sunday.
The front went through Saturday night. The wind was NE and predicted to
go E, SE, S and then SW. It is now Tuesday noon, I think the wind went SW
sometime this morning! It was still NE and cold late Monday. So much for
predictions. The course was W/L with a 11 mile leg. It was blowing in the
high teens with puffs in the low twenties and a lot of lump. Good #3
conditions for us. But we really like to see 22 or 23 for the #3 to do its
thing. The wind stayed more or less NE all day and slowly diminished. Off
the line our computer was showing a definite left trend! So, having nothing
more to be ashamed of, we went left. Problem was, the wind kept getting
lighter and our #3 wouldn't carry us through the lump. We went from rolling
over Full Tilt to falling farther and farther behind. We changed to our
heavy #1 and were a little overpowered for the next 30 minutes or so. After
the first 45-50 minutes, half being under canvased and half being
overcanvassed, we were again out of racing contact with the top of the fleet.
Going left early, then recognizing a slow but steady trend to the right, we
boogied over there. This all played out fine, but not enough to catch the
leaders. Down wind, the breeze was continuing to soften. The right
(shore) side had less current, less chop and appeared to have more pressure.
We dug in deep to the right and made out like bandits on everyone that stayed
left (of us). Trouble was, a few boats (Coalition, Scherherazade, Full Tilt)
saw this too and went even deeper than we did, with the same results.
A lot of credit goes to Coalition. They didn't have a steller year with that
boat last year. And they really got hammered at Key West. They've made some
changes (a larger, loose footed main (+17 inches to the boom) and only a 3
sec/mile penalty) that really seemed to pay off. I guess its time for me to
get out the tin cup and build a new main.
|
845.587 | Re: last two replies | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue May 28 1991 18:23 | 20 |
| Re: -.1 Saturdays line was heavily favored to the boat end and we, too
were going to avoid it or start in the second row. but the fleet was
soo anxious to get going that everybody was on the line early and had
to bear off, leaving us a huge legal hole to dart through right next to
the boat! Jazz, on the other hand, took advantage of our relative good
will for not holing her and squeezed off a second tier, illegal start.
Re: -.2 Rumours was the boat involved. The committee didn't do
anything for them. They could appeal easily if they cared. There are
plenty of precedents that state the the committee is under no
obligation to anounce who is over early, but if they do, and they
materially prejudice results by providing wrong information, they
should adjust elapsed time of those impacted. They were very angry
with the committee. Wired was even angrier with them. By establishing
the precedent of announcing early starters, and then, without written
warning, changing to a policy of NOT announcing early starters, the
committee gave the impression that all were clear. That would make me
very upset.
Dave
|
845.588 | D fleet report | MILKWY::WAGNER | | Wed May 29 1991 14:12 | 50 |
|
Whoa! I'm glad you big guys shouldered all the RC problems. I've
had my own problems with this race...
Well Saturday, of course was the hold_back_the_B_fleet day. The C
flag went up, then repeater, then anchor, etc. Then the C fleet went
off, the B fleet still buzzing around.... the C flag dropped late,
with, of course the OTHER C flag for course change... ah well. I don't
respect those guys enough to be too angry.
So off we went, (D fleet), upwind & reach & reach & such. As the
crew is pretty new, I didn't mind the cruisecourse aspect. On the long
chute reach, Decadence, the Irwin (33?) kept pushing us up, which I
wouldn't have chosen to do, but as the wind shifted, the folks lower &
out back ended the leg with gennies. Our I is 42 and J is only 12, so
if the pole's not in danger of scrubbing the forestay, we're dogmeat.
Bringing us to Sunday. When we were dogmeat. After a 5th on
Saturday (no complaints here!) we had a up & come home course with a
good amount of wind. I tried to eke out some DDW speed by a little
twinging, to expose a little more (flat) nylon up front. Duh. This set
up an oscillation between the (new) helmsman and waves that had the
boat all over and the crew wishing for Transderm. My experienced crew
had commitments Sunday, so I had to guest-foredeck. Steering/tactics
from up front never has worked but hope keeps springin'....
So 4 boats rolled us on that long downwind home; 5 with corrected,
giving us a 8th or 9th.
I looked again at the polars, which were from an older sistership-
she has a penalty pole! Well whaddaya know. Lots more cloth up there
might get us in sooner.
But it was a good time; nothing/nobody broke, and I came home with
the same number of boats I left with.
Now did anybody see the sponsors list? I wanna know what happened
to the Mount Gay & Sam Adams. Actually, the comedy & chase boats seemed
to be floatin' a bit low.....
".... think we oughta tell `em they were early??? Hey! Didn't
ANYBODY remember an opener?? These stupid beers don't unscrew!!!"
Naaah. These people are pros.
.....right?.....
Just wait till next year!!
Scott_who_either_blames_boat_or_crew.
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845.589 | If you cant beat 'em, join 'em. | ELWOOD::KEENAN | | Wed May 29 1991 15:13 | 46 |
|
I raced J/24's last weekend in Newport. I crewed for Goeff Moore,
last years NA champ. It was quite an experience to compete on the
highest level in this class.
The first race started Sunday at 11 AM. Goeff rolls into Ft. Adams
with his boat on a trailer at 9:30. The hull and keel had been faired the
previous week. The sails are brand new, finished 1 hr earlier. I look
at the hull, lots of fittings are missing, "We'll never make the start!"
I say. All I hear back is "Not to worry", that's also the name of the boat.
We mount the spreaders, the motor mount, rudder pintles. "Where's the hacksaw,
I want to cut an inch off the mast butt". The boat has a sailcomp digital
compass, the battery - dead. We don't need no stink'in compass. We raise
the mast, throw a box of tools, junk hardware, and knots of line onboard.
The boat hits the water, sails up, off to the race. Not to worry!
I try to rig the spinnaker, but no twings or ratchet blocks. We find the
pieces in the junk box and jury rig it. We reach the line as the starting
sequence begins, the rig is tuned just before the 5 min gun. We get a
good start with good speed - amazing.
With 35 J/24's spread across Narr. bay, windshifts can be seen moving through
the fleet. Geoff is fanatical about having the crew make these observations
and report gains or losses to him. He kept drilling into us "Take in the
big picture and tell me about it" and "Tell me what will happen next".
During one race, the entire fleet short tacked the shore and converged
off Ft Adams. A boat fouls us, we protest, seconds later they collide
w/ another boat. We tack to port, starboard tacker on the bow - big duck!!
The bow spins to leeward, I pull my legs inboard, we miss by inches. Back
on starboard, we scream at a port tacker, then crash tack to avoid collision.
He does two donuts. Through the middle of this insanity comes a 40' tour
boat. He powers right in till the last second, then backs down and gives
five blasts on the horn. J/24's swarm around him like bees. The tourists
on board are astounded: why are these people ramming each other and swearing
in sailboats?
For two days we banged around the around
the course fighting Dave Curtis, Ken Read, Steve Ulian, Al Constants, among
others. We racked up a score of 2,2,5,9,10 and a throwout of 19. For
us, the regatta hinged on two strategic decisions where we went to the wrong
side and lost boats. If we hadn't made those mistakes, we'd have won the
series. We ended up in fifth place, right behind Read and ahead of Curtis.
Paul
|
845.590 | Ahhhh, I'm glad spring has arrived.... | AKO539::KALINOWSKI | | Wed May 29 1991 16:33 | 11 |
|
Re Last Couple
Are we having fun yet?????? ;>)
john
2 weeks till my season starts
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845.591 | BYC Spring | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 03 1991 11:36 | 57 |
| What a grreat weekend, weather-wise! We must be giving San Diego a run
for its money this spring.
Spent all day Saturday installing a new vang fitting that we had to
have custom made. The fabricator made a piece of art, but the
tolerances were so close that fitting it required a lot of finesse and
some plain old brute force. Alan's quote about if force doesn't work,
you aren't using enough of it was appropriate. Late Saturday we got a
sail test in finally.
Sunday was beautiful. The Boston YC Spring race was scheduled to start
at Tinkers at 10:30. Wind out of 330 to 345 made it impossible to get
an upwind start, so postpone and move the line out to sea.
The course was an Olympic triangle (triangle,windward,leeward,windward)
with 6 legs. At least that's how it was supposed to be. An inflatable
mark was set 2.5 miles upwind at 350 degrees.
Start was okay. We played the left. bodacious played the right and
when we first crossed they had made out. We had come right a bit and
saw shifting going on to the left. We wanted to go there, but wanted
Bo to go back right, so we had to hold until we almost crossed. Bo
went back right to sit on us and we tacked back to the left. The shift
was much larger than we anticipated and all of a sudden we are laying
the mark! Total luck. We round in front of the A fleet including the
J 44, Loose Goose.
the wing leg was pretty cool. We can see the B or Cfleet coming down
the windward leg towards us with chutes up! We had ours up going the
opposite direction! As the windlines comverged the drill was to hold
the chut as long as possible, put up the light #1 and beat to the wing
mark. The next wing leg was a close reach in near planing conditions.
I should state here that we and Loose Goose were separated from the
rest of the fleet by almost a mile. the shifts had caught us in good
position and the rest of the fleet was sucking pond water.
The next leg was supposed to be a windward leg but was now a downwind
leg. We sailed to the leeward mark and saw the entinre B fleet parked
around it in no wind at all. As we approached the hole we saw Claddagh
charging down the course carrying the new wind with her. Hey, you live
by the sword, you die by the sword. We waited patiently for the new
breeze to fill in and rounded just behind Loose Goose and about 30
seconds in front of Claddagh. She made up 6 minutes on one leg!
Windward leg was playing shifts and gaining a bit back on Claddagh.
Last leg we saw land breeze back out of the northwest developing along
shore. We sailed 30degrees high of course to get to the new breeze
fastest. Drop the chute, put up genny and ride a close screaming reach
to the finish. We saved our time on Loose Goose easily but lost
Claddagh by 23 seconds. She finished only 2 minutes and change behind
us.
the key was watching for shifts and changing gears constantly. Our
crew got quite a workout! Still, the shifts were huge and made the
whole thing kind of a craps game. Next Sunday the EYC Lambert.
Dave
|
845.592 | BYC Spring | VERGA::FACHON | | Mon Jun 03 1991 11:42 | 43 |
| Sort of pot-luck day off Marblehead yesterday for the
BYC Spring race. Bizarre wind shifts and incredible
sheer dominated the action and made for a greater test
of patience than anything else.
At the start of A-fleet, Bodacious "got hosed" and had to
tack to port for clear air as most of the fleet went ahead
and towards shore. Fortunately, port tack was favored, and
our first taste of the wind's craziness propelled us
out in front of the fleet -- on the outside of a lift, ironicly,
but with better velocity. As luck would have it, however,
we failed to consolidate our gains by hitching sufficiently to weather
to cover the fleet, and our wind lightened as it continued to lift,
doing the classic pinwheel and leaving us in 4th as we rounded
the first mark. From then on, wind shifts conspired to make the rich
get richer, as it were, and I don't think fleet positions changed
so much as separations increased, although it wasn't always easy
to tell who was ahead in the leading pack, as Claddagh, Harrier,
and Loose Goose seemed to stay bunched as they surged into
the shift that came in from in front.
As usual, Claddagh found her way to the front of the fleet,
and this was especially irritating as Mr. Collins was aboard and he
sets the ratings. In addition, he blatently violated rule 40 at the
start of the race by refusing to come up as we luffed and then telling
Jon to "read the rule book."
Harrier looked like she wanted more air than she got, but
some favorable shifts and smart tactics kept her moving nicely.
I suspect Goose was pretty dumbfounded at having both Harrier and
Claddagh finnish almost neck and neck. She had a tough time picking
out shifts, it seemed, and her boatspeed was off.
I'm not sure of the finnishing order, but Claddagh, Harrrier, and
Goose must have taken the top three.
Seems the summer flukies are setting in early this year! Well,
at least we didn't drift around the course.
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.593 | EYC race | VERGA::FACHON | | Mon Jun 10 1991 11:49 | 30 |
| Full marks to Harrier for her second bullet in as many races.
The conditions offered no lucky advantage, and the racing was
very good, with some good pairings and semi-match racing
happening all over the course.
At the start, with a predicted shift to the right, we
hoped to get to the outside by taking a second row, port
tack start. We were a bit early on our run down the line,
and the hole wasn't where we needed it, so we had to ad-lib, and
ended up 30 seconds late right off the bat. We split right as
soon as possible, but with poor boat handling we just
didn't get up to speed and watched Harrier -- who was
over early and had to clear herself at the start -- walk
right over us (as she should do, but not so dramatically).
Sucking her gas, we went left to clear, but everyone else
was coming right by then, and a short clearing tack ended
up a long hitch that put us on the wrong side of the course.
With our pre-race strategy blown, and most of the fleet
in front of us, we just got sloppy. We did take back several
boats, but we never threatened the leaders. The crowning
mediocrity, however, was our failure to race Jazz boat-for-boat
on the last downwind leg, thus letting her slip ahead and
grab a third.
As usual, Claddagh was at/near the front of the fleet, even
though she did not sail a particularly good race.
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.594 | | VERGA::FACHON | | Mon Jun 10 1991 16:07 | 5 |
| re last..
Correction -- Harrier had a 2nd in the CYC. 1st yesterday.
Dean
|
845.595 | Our first ace! | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jun 10 1991 17:23 | 38 |
| Right, Dean. I thought you knew something I didn't!
It was a beautiful day for racing. We had the same strategy as
Bodacious did. Namely, go to the right early and often. After a
premature start, we did a quick dip and got on with it. Bo's late
start put them even with us and to leeward by quite a ways. The reason
we rolled them so easily was that we gave away a few degrees of point
for speed to give them gas as soon as possible. We didn't want them
further to the right than we were! Going head to head upwind, there
would not be that kind of speed differential, Dean.
After that, it became a match race with Scherherazade (known as "S"
from here on). We had a blast! They barely beat us to the windward
mark. It was a close reach to mark #2. We put our chute up and they
had to follow suit. We rounded less than six feet behind them, tried
to jibe reach to reach faster than them, but ended up even. Going
around Baker's Island we had our major embarassment of the day. Our
navigator said we had to honor can #3. I asked him if he was sure,
because it sure didn't look like S was going to, and we were right on
their tail. He assured me multiple times that, yes, we HAD to honor
it.
We bore away at the last minute, let S sail away, and notified them we
were protesting them. Ten seconds after committing to that and giving
away six or more boatlengths to S, our navigator says "sorry, wrong can
#3". I was fit to be tied. Jock makes one good blooper like that per
season. Let's hope that was his quota!
We fought back and got S on the last windward leg. They played a poor
downwind leg and we played shifts. Put a lot of time on them on the
last leg. We held our time on Claddagh, but just barely even after
sailing what we thought was a good race. They sailed a mediocre race
but their stupid rating let them back in. One of the rating committee
is a constant crew member now. No conflict of interest there!
We love the new boat, but have much more to learn.
Dave
|
845.596 | Gas-hole | VERGA::FACHON | | Tue Jun 11 1991 14:57 | 9 |
| Dave,
So it looked. I wanted to continue right -- either by powering-up
while we still had clean air and then trying to hang on for your
move, or by scalloping up to weather when the gas hit -- but it
was just too painful for Jon. Can't really blame him; Harrier "breaks
wind" with a vengence -- especially at that range!!
;)
|
845.597 | Yeah, but... | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Jun 11 1991 15:45 | 6 |
| Dean, not to belabor the point, but why didn't you guys do a very short
clearing tack? I can't recall, was Scherherezade too close to weather?
No clear lanes? We do toss up a large amount of disturbed air, even
when we're not sailing. ;^)
Dave
|
845.598 | A bit of UK news | CHEST::BARKER | I've got those Simplification blues.... | Wed Jun 12 1991 04:52 | 24 |
| The UK National IMS Championship has just finished this weekend. The
format was a series of inshore races on an earlier weekend, followed by
a 170 mile offshore in the English Channel.
The winner was a Tripp 40 "OutsTripper", with the new Dubios 52ft "Dump
Truck" second. Other boats in the frame were a pretty one-off Humphries
design "Apriori", which was built just before IMS was introduced, but
after the owner got fed up with IOR, and the evergreen 1965 S&S
"Sunstone"
A row is currently brewing over a new Beneteau One-design, which the
builders claim is 'Ideal for IMS racing' although the hull contains
Carbon fibre, which is not allowed under IMS. Is this particular rule
enforced in the US ? Some ex-IOR boats probably have Carbon in their
hulls.
This weekend ( weather permitting ) I should get my first sail on the
one tonner "Fever", now renamed "Quokka" ( one of the owners is an
Aussie ), in a short offshore.
More on that later.
Chris
|
845.599 | Clearing tack | VERGA::FACHON | | Thu Jun 13 1991 11:41 | 9 |
| Re: Dave
With a wall of big boats coming right, the lanes
didn't look very wide, and we hadn't gotten into
the groove sufficiently to thread the needle, so
it looked like we'd be in for a series of clearing
tacks. Ugh. Just a botched job.
Dean
|
845.600 | Not a good weekend. | TOLAS::BARKERC | I've got those Simplification blues.... | Mon Jun 17 1991 09:16 | 39 |
| I have just returned from my weekend on "Quokka", the Joubert/Nivelt
One tonner, and I think I can say that it was the most unpleasant race
in my 9 years of offshore racing.
The boat itself was great. Its a 1984 design, but it has been
optimised for Channel Handicap System, rather that IOR. This has meant
removing the internal ballast, and sticking it on the end of the keel
( CHS doesn't penalise stability directly ), and not using the Kevlar
sails ( there is a Kevlar Main and #3 genoa which have only been used once,
sitting in the owners shed. Very Sad). She is showing signs of wear,
and needs a fair amount of work, but almost everything works OK, and I
guess that is more important than looks. Comparing her with early
photo's show that the 10 winches have been reduced to 6, the Hydraulic
Vang & Flattener have been removed, and the main sheet track moved
forward. The sails are a mixture of new Relling Dacrons ( main & #3 )
a Mylar No 1 ( Parker & Kay - Who ? ), a new .75oz kite and the original
Norths for the rest.
The race was about 80 miles, of which about 70 were on the wind, or
very close reaching, with between 20 & 30 knots true wind, driving
rain, about 6 hours of night-time, 15ft waves and poor visibility.
About the only good thing was that it wasn't too cold.
We were well beaten by a Beneteau 45f5, which gave us time, but
absolutely flew away during the close reaching bit, and was never
seen again. For a while we looked like being 2nd out of 2 finishers (
about 20 starters ), but later, as we were leaving, some of the smaller
boats were struggling in, so we were probably 2nd out of 6. The rest
retired. The course ( Cowes, Bembridge, EC2 - which is about halfway
between the Isle of Wight, and France - , Weymouth ) was very exposed
to the westerly wind and I think the smaller boats would have had lots
of problems.
The cruise back was nice and fast though ! Hopefully, next time will
be better.
Chris
|
845.601 | E-22 Racing | TUNER::HO | | Mon Jun 17 1991 10:37 | 32 |
| Touche is in, finally. Mine was the last of the registered Etchells to
launch this year. The new lightweight floorboards will have to wait
for another season. Enough maintenance for one year. It's time to
sail.
After a midnight session Friday gathering parts, we towed it up early
Saturday, stepped the mast, launched, tuned, and only missed the first
gun by five minutes. Some unexpectedly good speed and a favorable
windshift got up back into the race. A good start in the second race
got wasted when the persistent right shift went unoticed and we failed
to bail out in time from our fling to the left. But we bailed out
sooned than many others and rounded the windward mark in the middle. A
chute launch straight into the water lost us a few boats. But our
ability to hold the tight reach after the gybe mark got em back. The
wind kept going right but I didn't notice it enough to really
capitalize on it. Still a good finish though with some really
satisfying boatspeed.
The Marblehead sailing center is going full tilt with about 20
keelboats being dry sailed. Takes about an hour to get em all in.
beleive it or not, it only takes three persons to push an Etchells on
its trailer. Didn't believe it til I did it.
There are those who believe only new boats are competitive but the
results for the day belie that notion. #51 took two bullets. 2nds and
thirds went to #65, and #66. Jud in #888 finished slightly in front of
my boat #46. With 22 starters and about 30 registered, it should be a
good season for the fleet. All the old boats have been sold and
upgraded. For the first time in a decade we have a backlog of would-be
ownners instead of boats.
- gene
|
845.602 | Last of the Spring series? | VERGA::FACHON | | Mon Jun 17 1991 12:03 | 45 |
| Fun racing yesterday. The Corinthian did a good job
giving us plenty of upwind work. The wind was east-northeast, shifting
between 60 and 90 for most of the day, with the trend to the left for the
first weather leg, and then going right with a somewhat irregular
oscillation in direction and strength.
The fleet size was disappointing, with only 7 boats
out, and some notable "heavyweights" elsewhere for the day.
However, Claddagh was, as ever, in the fleet
and we ended up sailing neck and neck with her for the
day. Early on, we wanted to go right but got pinned
going left after a protest situation at the start. Katabatic
was above the line and trying to dip as we came up. We had
an overlap, and wanted to come up onto the breeze, but
they didn't respond. No one from their boat showed up
at the protest meeting. Anyway, the wind decided to favor the
left somewhat, and we did reasonably well once we punched through
Katabatic's lee.
Had some close crossings with Arabella -- they're usually inclined
to duck, but following one cross -- Bo on port -- where they
hailed "starboard" and we, "hold your course," they missed our
stern by 6 feet and decided to return the thrill. On the return,
the situation reversed, I think we missed them by 3 feet.
No hails were exchanged, but perhaps it was too close for this
level of racing. Nonetheless, made for excitement. Also had some
fun with Claddagh, as they tacked to gas us on two occasions, once just
ahead and to leeward on port. Maybe 6 feet separating the boats. They
pinched up and we had to clear. However, going left again proved
to be advantageous, and got around the top mark a few lengths in front
of Arabella and Claddagh. Goose was ahead but not far
enough, and the other boats in the fleet were no longer an issue.
Did reasonably well going down the pike, but not well enough
to hold Claddagh off. On the last run, we sailed beside
her for most of the leg -- getting some help from the waves -- but
she crossed the line a half a minute in front. 1st for Claddagh,
2nd for Bo. Don't know who got what after that.
Is that the end of the Spring series? Or do the Manchester races
count towards Spring results? Hope to see a larger fleet next
week.
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.603 | B Fleet Chapman Report from AVENTURE | MILKWY::WAGNER | Scott | Mon Jun 17 1991 13:13 | 57 |
|
Our warmup for Halifax was this weekend; the Chapman Bowl. Best
conditions in years! The last two were no-wind'ers, before that, too
much wind; turned into a day race.
Anyhow, Friday evening, the crew showing up in Scituate JUST in
time due to overcrowding of Easy Rider, the local water-bus, then out
to the Line, quick strategic guesstimates, up with the chute for a
half-minute-too-late start, and off we go. The 38 & 40 footers caught
the high air, the 4 Frers 33's scooted on almost perfect polars, and we
jousted with the slowest of them, plus some C&C 33's and 34's. Our
sistership, Mirage, went offshore, found nothing, then caught back up
by virtue of heating up the chute. The Inshore Club found even less,
and quickly disbanded. We kinda took the inside middle. The chute is
substantially smaller than the designer spec'd, but we used those
polars. Our navigussor/tactics guy played polars and ladders. Good
stuff till it got dark and shifty then the air moved out and vapors
moved in- usual thing. We were already around Mary Ann's, off to
Stellwagen, still in the thick of things, still being too conservative.
Haven't spoken to too many yet, but it sounds like last year's case;
the smart money headed north before east. Anyhow, got into a whale
meeting around 2am; surrounded by a bunch of lazies up for air and
rest- phew-wee! We came to a pretty quick stop at one point; maybe it
was no air, maybe Moby Dick. Good story anyway. So on up to Cape Ann
neighborhood where the mark had a gigundo hole surrounding it, and
we're still sparring with Silver Fox, a C&C 3/4 tonner run by Don
McGilvray, a nemesis of mine for years. Rounded that, finally put up
the jib, after about 15 hours of neck strain for everybody, headed
straight out. Finally settled into some good wind, tight reach with the
new barberhauler. Boppin' along, tho the boats heading in toward Boston
fared better, earlier. Wind built all the way till the end, wishing I
had a bigger headsail selection. What else is new. Mixed it up with
some of the bigger cruisers, Geniveve Rose, for one. She's a Catalina
38, real pretty with some bottom showing. But, as they overpowered, we
drove over them. Good stuff!
The finish was the most dramatic part of the race. The way you do this
is radio the RC when rounding the Scituate Approach Gong, and the
Comittee Boat is now the Committee Patio, and they take your time as
you pass between 2 buoys at the jetty/harbor entrance. Well this is
enough fun already, with natives piling out of the harbor for a nice
Saturday boatride, but we also have to contend with a big cruiser who
had to tack unexpectedly, while trying to roller reef the jib, since
they were on their side, sliding sideways. I had tacked with JUST
enough to make the finish mark, nothing in the bank. Now here's a tide
trying to wrap me around this nun, wind trying to round me up, add this
boat all over the place, not moving, choking the air.... what'll we hit
first?!? But a kindlly puff shot us up & over, on goes the engine, down
with the genny, right onto a mooring. 90+ miles by about 3pm... no
complaints.
With bad weather threatening Sunday's nice ride home with my partner,
a couple pooped but dedicated crew volunteered for the last few hours
home. After retrieving cars in Scituate, time for a snooze... now here
it is, Monday again!
Only report out of the brunch/ceremony Sunday am on us was `No
silver'... were we DFL? `No'. A success!
On to Halifax... 3 weeks and counting!
Scott.
|
845.604 | Local disappointment | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Jun 18 1991 13:15 | 20 |
| Re: 602
Dean, don't count on bigger fleets. We'll be doing one of the two
races this upcoming weekend, but not both. We have given up on M'head
PHRF. They don't want to talk about a consistent schedule or
reasonable starting times not to mention the rating of that boat that
starts with "C". We're using the local races as tune up for better
events. After July 4th, we're gone for a month doing Edgartown (the
improved version, I hope!), Volvo, Port Huron to Mackinac (on Rumors),
and Buzzards Bay. Probably won't race anything local after that until
the PHRF New Englands.
It's very sad, but the truth is that race and handicapping management,
and NOT the economy as some would argue, have reduced local
participation to a fraction of what it should be.
Dave
PS Can't believe Claddaugh beat you guys boat for boat again! When, oh
WHEN, are they going to get their rating adjusted?!?!?
|
845.605 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed Jun 19 1991 12:19 | 4 |
| What? No Block Island race week for Harrier. Usually better than
Volvo or, especially, Edgartown.
- gene
|
845.606 | Our Logic | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Jun 19 1991 13:33 | 21 |
| Block Island was too early even with the move to one week later in
June. It is hard to get the boat south and we wanted a concentrated
schedule of events so that it wouldn't be away from its mooring in
M'head for more than a month.
Edgartown is not premier racing, granted. We treat it as our crew
vacation. We have a house rented for the entire week even though
racing is only three days. The venue, not the competition is what
draws us.
Volvo will have a good class 40 contingent there. At least four recent
vintage One Tonners and a couple of oldr ones as well.
Buzzard's Bay gets high marks from all involved, so we thought we'd try
it.
The NOOD is too close to PHRF NE's.
So, that is our logic. BI race week would be fun. Maybe next time.
Dave
|
845.607 | | VERGA::FACHON | | Wed Jun 19 1991 14:45 | 18 |
| Re 604
It seems to me the race management has improved dramatically
in recent years. Wouldn't argue about the schedule, though.
Would be fun to hold weekend races in the early evening for those
mid-summer weeks when the wind seems to wait until 4 to come up.
As for Claddagh's rating, when I look at notes from 2 years ago,
we had the same complaints. Some things are written in stone.
They're good sailors, at any rate, and we'll consider any
race where we cross the line before her a personal victory. When
you strip away the frustration, the competition is good, or so I'd
like to think.
Look forward to seeing Harrier one day this weekend.
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.608 | | ELWOOD::KEENAN | | Thu Jun 20 1991 11:12 | 9 |
| Dave,
If you're looking to race on the weekend of 7/13 between the Edgartown
and Volvo, there's an NBYA regatta happening in Tiverton. You can
usually get a free mooring for the weekend. The last regatta had some
good boats racing PHRF. Carol Marine had their lastest IMS rocket, a
Tripp 41-42?
Paul
|
845.609 | Thanks, but E-town is that weekend | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Jun 20 1991 12:35 | 30 |
| Edgartown is the weekend of the 11-14. Thanks, though! The Tripp was
a Tripp 40. They are VERY fast! PHRF rating of 51 or so compared to
ours of 63. Depends on the configuration (masthead vs. frac, internal
ballast, etc.).
Re: 607 Dean, the individual race management has improved a bit. The
scheduling stinks! They don't seem to get the idea that they are a
marketing organization that needs to do everything possible to
encourage participation. First rule is don't make it hard to
participate. Well, guess what? The schedule makes it VERY hard for
the average guy to keep track of the season. The Wednesday night races
are so popular in part because there is no guess work. Everybody knows
that every Wed. night there WILL be a race. Plans are easy to make.
The rating politics just sucks! Jazz and Claddagh are just two
examples. We believe Jon ought to make a big issue of it. We'd
support it whole heartedly. We don't feel we should take the lead
because we already are voting with our feet (not participating in the
series championship).
We'll be out there Sunday, not Saturday.
Dave
PS Great article by Dave Perry on crew management in July SAIL
magazine. Only bad part is the picture of Katabatic at the front of
the article ;^). He emphasizes the need for a seperate driver, speed
doctor, and tactician. Recommend it highly.
|
845.610 | Round the Island. | CHEST::BARKER | I've got those Simplification blues.... | Mon Jun 24 1991 05:16 | 22 |
| This Saturday was the Annual Round-the-Island race, sailed on 60 mile
course round the Isle of Wight, starting and finishing at Cowes. This
year, 1600 boats were entered ( slightly down on last year, probably
because of one death and two sinkings in that race ), and good
conditions meant that the 12 year old Monohull record of 5hr 57min,
held by the American yacht Mistress Quickly was in danger.
Several boats beat this mark, including an 80 foot Cruiser Ocean
Leopard, steered by Chris Law, which lowered the record to 5hr 32min.
Other boats inside the time included the 54ft Dump Truck, the IOR 50
footers Juno & Will ( who were 4 seconds apart on corrected time ), and
the ex-12 Metre, Crusader.
The main prize, the Gold Roman Bowl, for best corrected time ( CHS )
was won by a 25' Folkboat Periwinkle.
Over 8,000 sailors took part, making this one of Britains biggest
sporting events.
Chris ( who came absolutely nowhere in a 21' Westerley cruiser. )
|
845.611 | Patton Bowl | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Jun 25 1991 15:02 | 55 |
| The Manchester Patton Bowl was last weekend. It was a two day event,
but we only did Sunday in order not to burn our crew out before a VERY
busy July. Great weather, a 22 mile gold cup course (triangle,
windward, leeward).
the committee moved the line to Newcombs from Gales Ledge in order to
get a good upwind leg. We were tuning up and missed the first gun when
the sequence started. Uh, make that the first and second gun! We were
back at the line with no idea how long until the start. We saw the
other A fleet boats charging down the line on starboard like they were
going to start. Perfect! We wanted to go to the right on port anyway,
and all the other boats were early and reaching down the line on
starboard while we were reaching UP the line on port one half boat
length behind the line. At the gun we were at the committee boat with
clear air on port!
From there it was covering the right side and get to the mark first.
Unfortunately, the first mark was Eastern Point off Gloucester. The
sind would tell us to stay offshore a bit, but the current along the
shore was very favorable. We stayed off shore and did okay, rounding
in front of the fleet, barely saving our time to that point on the
competition.
The downwind leg was where we made our daily blunder. In order to get
to polar boatspeed, we headed up a bit and into the wind shadow of the
offshore rig at the mouth of the harbor. Shoot! We jibed to get out
of it and offshore. The wind was then our friend again and we lost
very little after all. Guess who was right on our tail? Claddagh.
The boat that is theoretically 12 seconds per mile slower than us.
They did nothing differently and kept up with us on the next leg on a
close reach.
The upwind leg we put some more time on the fleet and the last downwind
leg we opened up a bit more, finishing three and a half minutes in
front of Claddagh. But we owed them four and a half minutes. We also
finished seven minutes in front of Io, the J 33, but owed them eight
minutes! So we finished third.
Two things that stink: Claddagh's rating, and the fact that John
Collins races on her. All Claddagh has to do is sail the middle of the
course so as not to be caught on the way wrong side of any shift, not
screw up her turning marks, keep her nose clean and she wins!
Automatic! I give those guys no credit at all in their recent wins.
They screw up and come back time after time. A forty one foot boat
that rates like that is a joke. And having our chief rater, John
Collins, race as regular crew is criminal. the races are turning into
a race for second place. The guys who race on that boat are fun guys
and we get along and all that, but that rating is the single most
destructive influence to Class A racing.
What do you guys think about banning Marine Industry Representatives
from racing in the PHRF NE's? We're all for it, but a lot of folks
aren't. Any views?
Dave
|
845.612 | MIR's - off the helm! | MILKWY::WAGNER | Scott | Wed Jun 26 1991 12:45 | 28 |
|
MIR's: big subject- maybe a big note?
I've seen 2 sides; some who are psyched to race against the likes
of Jud, Dave Curtis, Robbie, et al, and those who feel that the pros
should pick on someone their own size. I tend toward the latter, as I
believe most do.
I WOULD like to see the rule of skipper helming, rather than the
MIR, enforced. Would slow Wired, and some others, RIGHT down. I have
had sailmakers aboard on occaision, but only to play with the product
they sold me, and give the real trimmer some tips. Don't care if we're
racing or not, and I don't mind others doing the same, as long as the
MIR doesn't take up residence with that syndicate.
BTW, the Halifax entry includes a crew list, and asks that you put
an asterisk after the names of pros.
Collins aboard: that's a toughie. But I've been working with him,
Bump, et al, and if you get a few skippers together on a letter with
real numbers from real races, he'll at least be liable for an
explanation. Whether anything actually happens is another story...
PHRF was never intended to rate non-stock, non-production boats.
It's got a tough enough job with that. Converted IMS, IOR etc. hulls
really play havoc- all you can do is play the comparision game. Compare
to a incorrect rating, and you spawn lots more incorrect rating.
And as everyone with lotsa silver knows, only the winners are rated
correctly! }8*(
My 2�...
Plus tacks!
|
845.613 | | ELWOOD::KEENAN | | Wed Jun 26 1991 12:49 | 13 |
| I have nothing to do with Marblehead PHRF, but I'll comment anyway.
I don't like the Marine Ind. Rep. category because it's too broad.
Someone who spends their working hours sticking spinnakers or
swaging rigging and then goes home like the rest of us has no
advantage in racing.
I recently read about a new "racing pro" definition as
someone who "receives compensation for contributing to the performance
of a racing yacht". This clearly points to rock star types who are
paid to design, test, modify, and win.
Paul
|
845.614 | | TUNER::HO | | Mon Jul 01 1991 10:00 | 16 |
| Stop beating around the bush. Admit it. You know what a "pro" is -
the person who finishes in front of you.
In this weekends Etchells racing the first race top finishers were
Dave Franzel (owner of Boston Sailing center), Curtis/Smith (owners of
North Sails), and Stu Neff/Colie Smith (just plain folks). I guess
those results might justify the pro advantage.
Second race top finishers were Charlie Quigley, Stu Neff, and Dave
Gundy. All just plain folks. In particular, Quigley's been the fleet
punching bag for 20 years. But this year he's won 2 or 3 races and
placed high in all the others. No pro advantage here.
Quit bellyaching and watch for those windshifts!
- gene
|
845.615 | No, Gene | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jul 01 1991 10:50 | 23 |
| Gene, the difference is that those guys OWN their boats. We're talking
about the hired guns who come out for the PHRF NE's and race boats that
normally suffer the results of poor steering/tactics/crew-work. These
guys only come out if you spend money on them or their products. Thus,
it becomes even more of a money game than it already is.
Add to that the impact of PHRF itself. A good example is Jazz, a local
Express 37. Even though it has a tall rig and a deep keel, they
appealed their rating of 69 and got it moved to 72 based on their
lackluster performance. rightly or wrongly, the rating committee took
into account the inexperience of the skipper and his crew.
Then you put Robbie Doyle on board for ONE regatta and the rating
becomes bogus! And the owner has bragging rights all year.
I admit it's a thorny issue. The matter of being beaten isn't that
high on our problem list. If it were we would take advantage of the
numerous offers we've had from pro's to sail with us on Harrier.
The issue is that in the long term I believe that everybody is happier
when owners sail their own boats.
Dave
|
845.616 | | TUNER::HO | | Mon Jul 01 1991 19:00 | 35 |
| The problem seems to be less the presence of hired guns or inflated
ratings but more the format of the PHRF New England championship
itself.
The PHRF NE's used to be an invitational - open to only the top three
boats in each New England PHRF fleet. Position was determined by
scoring on a season-to-date basis for races sailed with specified
mandatory races. If you didn't make the cut, you went cruising.
Of course this made for a small turnout, maybe two dozen boats total
over all classes. Not much potential for sponsorship and the cheap
drinks that come with it or much in the way of entry fee revenue for
the sponsoring club.
Now it's an open regatta. Good exposure for the sponsor and lots of
entry fees for the Eastern Yacht Club. Plus all the boat bums
displacing the regulars on the expensive boats. And why not - a win in
a "championship" regatta using a given sailmakers personnel/product is
good for business.
There are couple of ways to deal with this.
Revert to the old format for the championship. This would make for a
dull regatta.
Get your own crew of boat bums and leave the women and children ashore.
This could cause strained friendships for those who are sensitive to
such things.
Sell the high performance boat and race one with a rating in excess of
150. Hotshots disdain slow boats and make unflattering remarks about
those who sail them. But the denizens of D class and below can proudly
say that whatever races they win are done through their own efforts.
- gene
|
845.617 | Still a well-attended race... | MILKWY::WAGNER | Scott | Tue Jul 02 1991 14:28 | 23 |
|
Gene, there's a subculture above 150, that's for sure! Maybe you
meant over 210... or just kiddin'.
I used to bump heads with a Mull 23? 24?, Little Orphan Annie; a
`Mini-Tonner'. For instance. There were others.
The latest `Annie is an S-2 7.9. Still sailed real well. But,
yesiree, never see much for pro's in the C/D/E/F fleets.
As far as the Championships, you were describing the Joslyn Cup
format. Not even done anymore, far as I can tell. It never adapted to
PHRF too well- the fleets with the largest membership naturally won
since the overall required boats over 5 fleets. Hingham had only one
boat that fell into the C fleet, as I recall; a J-29, and he went on
vacation that week!
The Championships are wide open; you needn't even be a PHRF-NE
member to scoop the silver.
But I like it due to sheer numbers; there are enough boats that I
won't be racing any 20 or 50 footers. Better breaks. Now if they'd just
keep the RC boat on station while we finished!!
PS all 3 clubs are involved this year, I believe. The club pride
dropped with the economy; PHRF NE figures between 3 clubs, that they
can scrounge a few sponsors. Good luck. Anyway, the parking & launch
service should improve this year, between all 3 places.
Scott (not yet a NE Champ)
|
845.618 | meanwhile, back in England... | CRATE::BARKER | I've got those Simplification blues.... | Mon Jul 08 1991 06:27 | 27 |
| This weekends JOG race was a 70 mile overnighter to the island of Alderney,
just off the French coast. We started with a light run down the Solent,
and just as we went out into the open sea, we were hit by a fierce
30kt squall. The kite drop went slightly wrong, and it eventually needed
5 people hauling on the sheets to get it in. There was no obvious
damage, but later that night, the same sail split right across the
middle, and is now a complete write-off.
This squall came before a massive thunder storm, which we sailed right
round, through torrential rain and blustery winds. One yacht sailed
into the middle of the storm and was becalmed for over an hour. After
that, it was a pleasant, moonlit reach, and the only decision to be made
was how high to go, as the wind was forecast to head us. Unfortunately,
we got it wrong, and had to tack up to the finish. Those who stayed
high were rewarded with a fine reach in, and most of the prizes.
On the cruise back, we had time to do a bit of tuning, and we
experimented with seeing the difference between having the crew just
sitting around, and with them all perched on the windward rail. This
very un-scientific experiment seemed to suggest the difference was
about 0.1 - 0.15 of a knot, which in racing terms is a pretty huge
amount ( the boat is a 1984 40ft, former 1-tonner ).
Our other main achievement was drinking the Alderney Sailing Club dry !
Chris
|
845.619 | | VERGA::FACHON | | Mon Jul 08 1991 14:27 | 15 |
| re: Sailing pros
I don't like sailing with "rock stars" on the same boat,
but I really don't mind them in the fleet. As was observed,
it's sort of fun to mix it up and see how you do.
One of our most enjoyable moments last summer was in
the NE PHRFs, the third race. We went nip-and-tuck
with Jazz (Rocket Robbie) the entire race, but the
best grin of the day was when we executed a perfect
slam dunk, tacking just ahead and beneath, then squeezing
them with our gas. Robbie tried to burn a hole in our side
with a fierce stare, but in the end he pounded the deck
and they tacked away. "That's entertainment!!!"
;)
|
845.621 | totally underwhelmed by the RC ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Mon Jul 15 1991 13:58 | 40 |
| We did the Saturday race on Wags ... missed Sunday's race for reasons
noted elsewhere in here ... :^(
Saturday's race was, at best, a total waste of time. We arrived at the
designated spot around 10:30. There was only one other boat within
sight ... highly unusual. During the next half-hour several other
north shore boats showed up, but no committee boat. Finally, at 11 AM
(the posted time for the first gun) we heard two guns blast waaaaaay
off in the distance. Looking through binoculars, we could see several
sailboats over in that general vicinity, so we all motored over to the
area. Funny, all the South Shore boats were over there, and all the
North Shore boats were where we had gone (and where the YRUMB book told
us the race was going to start).
After about an hour's delay, they finally got a race started. The
course they posted was a modified Gold Cup, with the starting line in
the middle of the windward leg. About halfway to the windward mark we
noticed that the three A boats (Coalition, Yaquina, and Wired) were all
milling around out where the mark was supposed to be ... sure enough it
wasn't there. For some reason, the RC had neglected to set the
portable where they told us it would be. So all the fleets just turned
around and headed back to the starting area to find out what was going
on. The RC had by then hoisted the abandonment and restart flags.
They made us wait about another 2 hours before getting the race
restarted. During that time they pulled and reset the line FIVE TIMES,
and the funny part was each time they dumped the pin end back in the
water it was in the EXACT SAME SPOT !!!
They finally gave us a course ... windward/leeward ... with 1 mile
legs !!!! So we spent 3+ hours motoring each way in the rain, over 3
hours waiting for a start, and less than an hour racing. WHAT A WASTE
OF TIME !!! It was without question the worst example of a race
committee screwing up a regatta that I have ever experienced.
Sunday we never made it out of Salem Harbor, and nobody on the boat
complained about not going back down there for a race.
... Bob
|
845.622 | Edgartown review | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jul 15 1991 14:35 | 94 |
| Well, I'm back from vacation with lots to report.
We did the Eastern YC annual race over the 4th of July. Lost to
Scherherezade, took a second. Not too unhappy with that.
The next night we left for Edgartown for their shrunk down regatta.
Got through the canal eight hours after leaving Marblehead and were
approaching the entrance of Woods Hole in a dying breeze against a foul
tide (due to our being there two hours ahead of schedule) when the
engine just quit! After checking the fuel filters and much head
scratching we determined that the fuel pump had died. Once we
determined that, I took some hoses apart, rigged up a gravity feed from
a jerry can, and we were on our way, having used up the two hours we
ahead of schedule anyway!
The regatta is now Thursday, Friday, Saturday. We had a house rented
for the whole week, so we made a vacation out of it. Spent one
Caribbean-like day in the harbor moored stern to, spinaker flying.
Hadn't done that in years! Very fun.
At the skipper's meeting the regatta format was called into question.
The schedule was for one race Thursday and Friday and the 'Round the
Island race on Saturday. There was lots of sentiment for two races per
day for the first two days. To my amazement, the Edgartwon YC agreed
to that format for next year and compromised with one race the first
day and two the second day. They are REALLY trying to bring this
regatta back from the sleepy backwater it had become.
Another indication. The YC had sensational parties Wednesday and
Thursday nights with the cheapest drinks in town. One was an all you
can eat barbecue and the other was a Mexican food deal with mounds of
beef and chicken fajitas. Great job by the social committee. In fact,
great job by the whole YC which has completely turned around its surly
attitude.
So, on to the racing! We raced in PHRF A with 13 other boats. The top
boats looked to be Idler (ex Sprint, J/N 43), Scherherezade, Gambler (a
very well sailed Frers 41), Airforce (new Schock 35), and Runaway (j
35). First day we got a good start but got pinched off to the left and
had to go right. Big mistake. Wind shifted to the left and we
rounded the weather mark in last place! We salvaged a seventh out of
it, but because scoring was done on total cumulative elapsed time, we
lost 6 minutes to Scherezade, who won day one. We were bummed and not
in a good mood when racing started day two.
The first race was started in 3 knots of breeze with the weather mark
only a mile up against a fairly slack, but increasingly foul tide. We
did a dip start right at the committee boat in order to have speed at
the start and didn't tack until we were sure we were beyond the layline
a bit. Rounded in front and stayed there the whole was around the
race course until Idler nipped us for the gun. We took a healthy first
on corrected time and got back three of the six minutes on
Scherherezade. Next race was an 18 miler that started at two in the
afternoon! Wind was much stronger and we crossed second, just in front
of Scherezade but didn't take much out of her time difference. Idler
won by a lot. Final results for the three race regatta was Idler,
Scherezade and Harrier, even though we beat Scherherezade two of the
three races.
Then came the clouds and the Ocean Race, better known as the 'Round the
Island Race. The course is eighty miles around Martha's Vineyard with
a hitch up to Texas Tower at the entrance of Buzzard's Bay.
The start was downwind in 18 knots of breeze and building. We rounded
the first two turning marks first, holding off Idler, and then the beat
down Chappaquidic she pulled away. The rest of the race was either
spinaker or jib reaching in increasing winds. By the time we were
blast reaching up Vineyard Sound toward West Chop and vinyard Haven, we
were keeping speeds up in the mid to high eight knot range with speed
over ground close to 11 knots with the current. winds were 23 to 25
knots now.
On the final turn toward Edgartown we were back on the wind taking
serious sea water right over the boat. the current and winds were
opposed, making incredible seas in the pitch blackness. Then our jib
sheet parted right in the middle! 3/8 inch kevlar! We tacked to
attach a new sheet when disaster nearly struck. Our boom caught a
runner and came VERY close to pulling our rig over the side with it!
Only quick reactions from the driver saved the rig. We fixed all that
and finished at 10:20 PM exactly 11 hours after starting. 80miles in
11 hours is averaging over 7 knots the whole time.
By the time we got the boat back to the yacht club our mood went from
elation to disgust. All the small boats who were never in the running
at all in the day races corrected out on us. If you took the scratch
sheet from bottom to top, that's how the finishing times ran. The boat
with the largest handicap won and then the next largest handicap, etc.
All in all, a great time and a well run regatta. We were glad to be
back and glad to see the EYC took the change to heart.
Dave
the largest handicap won, next largest second, etc.
|
845.623 | Lipton Cup from the One-design fleet | STAR::KENNEY | | Mon Jul 15 1991 15:29 | 21 |
|
Anybody do the PHRF part of the Lipton Cup this past weekend. I
did not hang around for the race results from PHRF, or the Charley
course. I was tired, and ready to go home and take a hot shower....
They split the one designs across three different courses, the
N10's, Optimists, and the Turnabouts on Alpha right off the edge of the
moorings. The Tornadoes, 210's, 110's, Thunderbirds, Hustlers, and
Mercuries on Bravo. Finally a huge assortment of boats, and
windsurfers on Charley. I borrowed a Mercury from U. Mass. and crewed
for the program director of the Community sailing program in Lowell.
After this weekend I am not sure she will ever want to race again.
Highs for the weekend we did not sink, and nobody got hurt that was it.
Lows, no wind, to much wind, rain, lunch boat ran out of food, a long
slow drift home Sunday. Seriously, the race people tried hard to make
it fun and fair, with the usual assortment of problems. I may do it
again but not in a borrowed boat with over 2 months worth of slime
build up on the bottom.
Forrest
|
845.624 | Kick `em when they're down. | MILKWY::WAGNER | Scott | Tue Jul 16 1991 12:53 | 31 |
|
Sounds like my decision to leave the Lipton off my schedj of races
was good. They shafted the PHRF the first year, and still, we're the
poor cousins. Seems the club wants numbers of boats more than quality
racing, altho the one-design reports are mostly favorable. My guess is
the club wants this to be a JFK style race. Not quite yet, guys.
My reasons are personal tho; the first year we were bounced by the
race commitee for, get this, `getting in the way of a boat that could
cut ours in half'. I kid you not. Some folks borrowed a chunky, high
rating boat, and barged us out at the start. No biggie, at the time, we
thought they were clueless wonders from another fleet, starting early.
Nope. They told the "judges" (not USYRU; just some drunks from the club
bar) that they didn't have the flag, so hoisted another. Anyhow, we had
a clean finish, just behind them, and figutred we had corrected first.
RC boat beeped us; no other info.
At the trophy ceremony, we were announced DSQ!! After an hour, the
drunk who was allowed to make this call was found, and explained that
our proximity to such a `big boat' (we were 22'; they were 32') was
dangerous and we should be more careful, stay off the line... on it
went. No USYRU rulebooks, no close misses at the line, no percieved
danger by other cometitors who were witnesses... no silver either. We
left disgusted, and were later sent a 3rd place trophy, no explanation-
the other guy who was awarded third was told nothing, I guess some of
the management figured all we really wanted was metal.
That was the inaugural race, and probably the last we'll do,
especially with the continuing reports.
The sad thing is that YRUMB was bullied into making this joke
count, and people respect that trophy. A p*ss poor race is being kept
alive. Don't agree.
Scott.
|
845.625 | Info! | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Jul 16 1991 15:32 | 7 |
| Scott, how was Halifax??? (hee, hee, hee) Nice weather? ;^)
Dave
P.S. The Edgartown YC people are very concerned about the Lipton
competing with their regatta. They couldn't find another good weekend
to hold the race, however.
|
845.626 | Seems like they are trying to fix some of the problems | STAR::KENNEY | | Tue Jul 16 1991 17:03 | 20 |
|
Do not get me wrong, I would be willing to do it again. I was left
with the impression that they are trying to fix some of the problems.
The had U.S.Y.R.U. judges this time, and on the Bravo Course by and
large they tried hard to be set reasonable courses. I was upset that
they sent off two fleets to race with 0 wind on Sunday. To top it off
they invoked a 5 minute starting time limit. If it gets any larger
they will need a larger space than they presently have to hold the
skippers meeting, and dinner Saturday. If we had a little better
weather I probably would have had a better time. On the other hand you
cannot fault them for weather.
I also feel for the people running races I get to do this a couple
times a year at the Lowell community sailing program. It is really
easy to show up and race and complain about the idiots running the
races. I am getting to the point where I believe every racer should
get stuck running one regatta every couple of years.....
Forrest
|
845.627 | Dump the PHRF part? | MILKWY::WAGNER | Scott | Fri Jul 19 1991 13:40 | 23 |
|
Hee Hee yerself, Dave- an Exolento sail! Rock&Roll Surfing indeed.
The cost is high, but that's an event that you can get YEARS of yacking
out of!
See note 1697 for Aventure's adventures.
re the previous note: HBPHRF rules say that sooner or later, you'll
be RC, so abuse is lower- memories run long! Of course, screwups are
far from eliminated.
My complaint was only referring to the first year, for PHRF fleet.
I've heard lots of good reports from one designers, and the results are
already up at area clubs! That spells good class support.
I believe Dave Lewis out of Hingham is a mover&shaker out there-
he's a USYRU judge who seems really active; a big help to the classes.
Perhaps the club should take a hint from itself and just do what it's
able to.
Scott (Mr. 2� and then some)
|
845.628 | Volvo a hit! | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Jul 22 1991 13:52 | 45 |
| Scott, glad the trip worked out well. Sounds like you guys had the
luck on your side! I'd quit with a perfect record. ;^)
We did the VOLVO in Newport this weekend. What a great regatta! Two
races Friday, two Saturday, and one on Sunday. Long days with lots of
breeze. The committee sent us on 9 mile windward leeward courses in
the late morning and followed up with a 13-17 mile gold cup in the
afternoon. winds were 16-23 on Friday, 15-17 Saturday and 8-15 Sunday.
All out of 230-250 degrees.
Our class had 18 boats. Four were "big boats" (two J44's, a Frers 45
and a Frers 46) but the rest fit into a forty-foot class. As it turned
out the first four places went to the big boats as we just couldn't use
all the power the wind had to offer. Two other One Tonners were there,
Full Tilt and Amazing Potatoe. I use One Tonner loosely because Full
Tilt sports a new foot longer boom and Potatoe has a new FOOT DEEPER
keel with a bulb! The new keel cost them 3 seconds per mile but is
worth 6 at least! They pointed 2-3 degrees higher than the rest of us
and we only beat them one out of five races. Good investment!
Full Tilt's new main and boom didn't pay off as we beat them 4 out of 5
times even tho we owed them 2 seconds per mile. We came in 7th over
all with only Potatoe and Holy Smoke (Dobroth 42, old Scaramouche and
Dream Factory, prior PHRF NE champ) beating us in the "small boat
division" Other boats were several Frers 41's (Gambler, Taylor Anne,
Crescendo) C&C 37R, Peterson 42 (Green Dragon). Can't remember the
rest.
The starts were lots of fun. The commiottee consistently set the line
5 degrees favoring the boat end so there was always a pile up! Two
general recalls and lots of individual recalls.
Socially the VOLVO gets an "A" in benefit/$ spent. $30 got you a
wristband to gain access to the party tent. Security was very tight.
Once in you not only drank free (Sam Adams, Wine, soda, Mount Gay) but
they had serious food as well! Never bought a meal the whole weekend!
Would like to hear Pauls comments on the J 24 fleet. Talked to on guy
Saturday who was hit three times in one race, none of which developed
into a protest!
Great weather (80's vs. high nineties in Boston), great sailing, great
location! An A+ regatta!
Dave
|
845.629 | | STEREO::HO | | Tue Jul 23 1991 14:05 | 28 |
| The Volvo regatta was very well run this year. Wish I could say the
same about my own logistical efforts. The third crew member
signed on at the last moment. To avoid missing the entry fee deadline
I had to FEDEX a check to the organizers. It wasn't until 5:00 PM
Wednesday that they could verify its receipt. But the boat was still
in Marblehead at that time and it had to be in Newport, in the water by
10:00 the following night.
Of course, none of the crew were free that night. And, the traffic
gods being as fickle as they are, I spent 1.5 hrs sitting in a traffic
jam trying to get home that night. A flurry of phone calls finally
yielded some one who owed me some favors and had nothing to do that
night. We unrigged Touche in the dark, secured it on its trailer, and
at midnight, it was in my driveway, ready for the second leg to
Newport the next night. That went uneventfully except for the panic
stop at the Mt Hope bridge which caused the boat to slide forward 6" on
its trailer. Guess I was trying too hard to meet the 10:00 pm
deadline. Got there at 8:30, rigged by 9:30, and were in the water
with a few minutes to spare. We were the second last boat to be
launched.
The sailing conditions were great as Dave described. We did good
enough with intense tacking duels in all our races. The crew got a
good workout in the brisk air. 25 Etchells made the line with 9 of
them coming from Marblehead. The combination of fresh winds with
little wave action is seductive - really makes the boat go fast.
- gene
|
845.630 | | VERGA::FACHON | | Wed Jul 24 1991 12:06 | 12 |
| Gene,
Raced an Etchells a few weeks ago down in Newport. Not much
wind, but sufficient. An easy enough boat to sail, but tough
to get those exta micro-knots that seem to make the difference
between tacking to cover and tacking to clear. And so many
adjustments seem counter-intuitive.
Anyway, how does the Marblehead fleet stack up with the Newport
fleet. They seem to think they have bragging rights.
Dean
|
845.631 | Hyannis Yacht Club Regatta 7/26-7/28 | RECYCL::MCBRIDE | | Mon Jul 29 1991 10:23 | 18 |
| I did the Hyannis Yacht Club Regatta this weekend on Affinity, a Kalik
40. These guys won the 'round the Island race at Edgartown last
weekend? Anyway they knew Harrier pretty well and had good things to
say about the boat and crew and previous boat history. Affinity took
first Friday, fourth Saturday and second or third yesterday for an
overall third for the weekend. Gambler (Frers 41) took first Saturday
and Sunday for overall honors. I believe Cruise Missile or Zorro
(J-35s ?) took Second overall. There were quite a few boats there to
make the competition interesting. The course set both days was a
windward/leward twice with 2 mile legs, twice around for a total of 16
miles over eight legs. Kept things interesting and we didn't have a
parade around the course. Conditions Saturday were generally wet.
Rained all day right up to the time we started back in. Sunday was
absolutely perfect with 10-13 knots and sunny skies. Overall, I had a
good time. Nice people on the boat, fairly low key and a good party
afterwards.
Brian
|
845.632 | RACE WEEK 1991 | TUNER::HO | | Mon Jul 29 1991 10:59 | 48 |
| Micro-knots is a good way to put it. They're absolutely the key to
successful Etchells racing and, for that matter, racing in any
sailboat. One design in J-35's is probably just as refined. It does
take a bit of getting used to.
In Touche's case it took about 9 seasons of getting used to it. We've
just concluded our 9th Marblehead race week. For reasons that are
still not entirely clear we finished in the top third of the fleet (33
boats) instead of the inverse. It's a strange sensation seeing more
boats behind than in front. It's even stranger seeing a mark in front
with no one near it but ourselves. We asked ourselves more than once -
is this our mark or some one else's? In two of the five races we
rounded the weather mark in the top four boats. It felt nice but it was
hard to hold onto the position. Our downwind work still needs
improvement. But I'll take good results one leg at a time.
A couple of atypical conditions helped us a lot. Light air and patchy
wind were the most significant. We could easily see where the wind was
and just sailed to it. Sorta like connecting the dots of wind to get
to the mark. It was so obvious the better sailors ignored it and,
instead, got all wrapped up in complex weather forecasting or just crap
shooting where to go.
Also the experience at the Volvo helped to get the right concept of
sail shape hard wired in my head. So we had plenty of speed and
pointing ability. Finally, we made some staffing changes. The
incompetent helmsman (me) was fired and moved to the middle position
were he could do less harm and Jim Kann, who has a steadier hand and
better concentration, brought in to steer. With my wife Amy on the jib
and foredeck we finally had a solid team. As Bob Bailey has said,
execution is a big part of success. No major snafus at the chaotic
mark roundings helped a lot. Amy successful foredeck work in the brisk
air at the Volvo was a real confidence builder. Doing it in the light
air was a piece of cake.
On a sadder note, #34, Ben Smith's boat hasn't been sailing this year.
This is the first race week in over 50 that Ben hasn't sailed in. Ben
bought the first Etchells in M'hd and founded the fleet 20 years ago.
He is one of the few who have kept the same boat all that time and kept
it competitive at the top of the fleet. For new members he always had
advice and encouragement. Ben Smith is one of those rare individuals
who can sail at the top level while maintaining a remarkable career,
serving as mayor of Gloucester and as US senator, filling out John
Kennedy's unifinished term back in the early sixties. In recognition
of his contributions to sailing, the fleet presented him with the E-22
Founder's cup. It has been a priveledge for us to sail with him.
- gene
|
845.633 | South-southestery Expressway! | ICS::R_GREEN | Ron Green 223-8956 | Mon Jul 29 1991 12:18 | 21 |
| re .632
Gene -
I caught the finish of the races yesterday at about 4:00. We were just
sort of poking around the periphery - not getting in anyone's
way/air/race/grove - about 1/2 mile downwind from the committee boat.
The mosst impressive challange (to this non-racing person) was how in
the hell you could figure out
a. where _was_ the next mark,
b. where _was the competition,
c. which race you were in.....
as there must have been a hundred smallish sloops finishing at the same
time - Shields, Etschells, I-class, etc.
Is it always this busy??
Ron
|
845.634 | | VERGA::FACHON | | Mon Jul 29 1991 12:51 | 17 |
| Congratulations Gene! Good to hear you're climbing the
ranks!! Your crew-shuffling must have helped a lot. Sounds
like you put the brains where they work best on an Etchells -- in
the middle of the boat.
I don't kow, but I suspect you can transfer (as in useful knowledge
to another boat) a lot more of what it takes to get those micro-knots
out of a J35 than you can an Etchells. For instance, it's not often
you'd release the backstay *completely* so the boat will point better!
Re comments on Harrier
She is sailed by one of the most competent crews currently
racing big boats in the Marblehead area. We have not been
able to "get their number" this year, and we usually rough
them up at least some. Full marks!
|
845.635 | Port Huron to Mackinac report | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Jul 30 1991 19:23 | 71 |
| I had an opportunity to race in the Port Huron to Mackinac (prounounced
Mackinaw) race last weekend. This "fresh water classic" is
approximately 300 miles long with half the race to the entrance of the
Georgian Bay to a turning mark off Cove Island and then a turn to the
west toward Mackinac Island off the northern tip of Michigan. I have
done this race six times prior when I used to live in Detroit where it
is the biggest race of the year (along with the Chicago-Mackinac the
week prior).
The boat was a Tripp 40 named Rumours owned by Tim Woodhouse and
chartered by our regular tactician's father, Larry Askew. We did the
race with a crew of eight to keep the weight down. It meant that
nobody had a specific job, and all had to pitch in on most chores.
Interesting approach. Woodhouse was the skipper, though and he can be
very opinionated.
The day of the start was light breeze out of the northeast, right from
the direction of the turning mark, 145 miles away! We had a great
start, shutting out Collaboration ( a Nelson/Marek 45) as well as
several other boats. Then, while most everybody else tried to sail up
wind, we cracked sheets and close reached on starboard tack right
through the classes that started earlier. Whenever we came upon
somebody, we acted like we wanted to pass to windward of them, made
them come up and acted heartbroken to fall off below them. The goal
was to keep the boat moving 1/2 knot faster than the polars said in
order to climb up the ladder.
Also, we thought that the new breeze when it filled in would be from
the west, so what was the point of fighting and scratching to go to the
northeast? This went on all night with the wind diminishing to the
point that we took down our headsail and sailed the boat like a Laser
to catch every breath of air. The next morning a bit of breeze filled
in, but still out of the northeast. We ghosted past several fifty's
and Collaboration. Were they mad! Later the wind filled in out of the
northwest and all those boats who sacrificed speed to be upwind were
now way to leeward with us able to crack sheets toward the mark.
The first leg took us thirtysix hours, but when we rounded Cove Islan,
we were the tenth boat in the fleet of nearly three hundred. Only a
maxi, three Santa Cruz 70's, a couple of fifties, one J44 and a Wylie
47 named Heartbeat rounded in front of us. However, it was 1:30 Monday
morning of a race we usually finish by early Monday afternoon and we
were only half way there!
After a night of light breeze, the wind filled in from the north east
again in a big way. Set the 1.5 oz. chute, point the boat toward Mac,
and hang on! We did the last 150 miles in less than 16 hours after
doing the first 150 in 36 hours. The latter half was a blast.
Averaging almost ten knots for that long was new to me on this size of
boat.
We finished either first or second. Don't know because I had to leave
as soon as we got there and it depends on what wind the race scores
with (IMS's weak point in my opinion) If they say the wind averaged
over nine knots, we win. If they say less than nine knots, another
Tripp 40 with a masthead rig wins. Either way, the Tripp's dominated
IMS.
A bit about this boat. This boat is scary. Acceleration is
incredible. Compared to the grossly mis-shapen IOR designs (of which I
proudly race one), the hull is fair and has no measurement bumps. The
beam is narrower and the keel has a bulb, placing the weight where it
does the most good. The interior is beautiful and fully functional
offshore. Great boat! The owners of the fifties came up to us
afterward (most finished right with or behind us) expressing amazement.
I'm glad we don't have to race this boat very often as a competitor.
All in all a great, but I haven't had much sleep in the last three
days, so I'm going home to catch some serious sack time.
Dave
|
845.636 | Berringer O'nighter and more | VERGA::FACHON | | Mon Aug 05 1991 13:56 | 153 |
|
This past weekend I was treated to some of the best and most
entertaining racing I've had all summer. It began
Thursday evening when I was a guest aboard a J35 named Whiplash
for the Thursday night races in Beverly. The folks who race
Whiplash are a bunch of middle-aged fun-lovers, and although
they aren't "leading edge" when it comes to racing, they make
up for what they don't know with enthusiasm. I had a great time
coaching them around the course, and we crossed the finish line
well in front of the next boat, something they evidently don't
often do in heavy air, and a position more typical of WAGS.
Friday I had the pleasure of guesting aboard Harrier for the
first day of the Buzzards Bay Regatta. What a marvelous "venue,"
and we had terrific wind, with a large fleet of competitors to
contend with. The racing was fun, and Harrier took a second
for the day -- I'll let Dave J report on that -- but the most
amazing aspect to the day was the amount of destruction we saw.
In the space of six ours, we witnessed a direct broadside collision
before the start, two dismastings, and a turtled Formula 40 cat!!!
The collision occurred well before the start of the race. The fleet
was reaching up and down the line, and two boats, a 30 footer and
a C&C in the 40 foot range got stuck in a port/starboard collision
course. They had room to maneuver, but as one boat moved, so moved
the other, each trying to guess what the other would do and so
they kept turning towards each other until there was no further
room or doubt about a collision. We were right next to them when
it happened -- shrieking crew-members running to-and-fro, some
towards the point of imminent impact!!!, the slow spin at the
last moment of the 30 footer to offer a perfect broadside target,
and the dull thud as the bow of the other boat buried itself
about a foot into the 30's topsides (below the deck). The 30
heaved sideways and up with the impact, and people were thrown
around pretty good, but no one, evidently, was hurt. As we
slid by, we watched as they pushed the 30 footer off. The triangular
opening was big enough for a small child to climb through!! A sobering
event, as you can imagine, and we were all somewhat shaken for several
minutes.
Once the racing started, we put the incident out of our minds and
focused on business. But as we went around the course, we saw the other
casualties of the increasingly blustery conditions. It really wasn't that
rough or windy, but several boats must have held on to big sails too
long, the result being the afor-mentioned dismastings and the flipped
cat. We got through the day unscathed, the only real mishap
being the near loss of a spinnaker as Harrier's nose took a dive and
the bag filled and threatened to disgorge its contents into the sea.
Some quick hands pulled the chute back aboard, and within moments another
chute was on deck and flying. Some nice surfing after that!
Anyway, thank you Dave and Dennis for sharing Harrier. A thoroughly
enjoyable day!!!
Then it was time for the Berringer Overnight race on Saturday. This
event took its toll on Bodacious last year, and I was far from eager
to participate in the inevitable drifting and sleeplessness. The rest
of Salem Bay must feel somewhat the same, as there were only 3 participants
in class A, one of which was a B-boat that otherwise would have raced
alone. So it was us and Claddagh, effectively, in a one-on-one overnight
match race. Oh joy!!!
Well, the start proved uneventful, with plenty of room on the line for
the eager contestants, and we drove up the first weather leg and into the
dusk with Claddagh walking away from us and rounding the top mark with a
lead of a few minutes. She widened her lead on the first reach to
somewhere around 10 minutes, and the second reach was about constant.
One lap down, and as far as things looked to us, we were doing the
course to get participation points. "Hell, even a 3rd out of 3 would
be worth more than a 1st or 2nd in a normal day race," as our skipper
liked to observe. Big consolation! But as we completed our first loop
in the twice around course, we had not given up. Anytime we make
distance on Claddagh, we count it as a moral victory, so as we approached the
bottom mark to go back up the pike, we kicked into high gear. The wind
was predicted to go left and we'd been noting some signs of that tendency,
so that's where we went, even so it meant we sailed almost 80 degrees away
from the mark while Claddagh took the favored tack. After we had sufficient
weather position to capitalize on a shift, we tacked over. Now we could
see Claddagh below and well ahead, silhouetted against the glowing clouds
over Boston. And the breeze trended left as we headed up the course. A
few times, however, it went back to the right sufficiently to keep Claddagh
happy, and so we road the pinwheel, even hitching out further to
the left on a header, so that by the top mark we'd cut her lead to 3
or 4 minutes. We were happy! We had a little victory, come what may
for the rest of the race.
As we rounded, we held high while Claddagh went lower, and our angle
looked pretty good. But then the wind died. It went from parking lot
to zephyrs that clocked all over the place. And the weather deteriorated
and we lost sight of Claddagh. We kept Bo moving, however -- about one
mile in 2 hours toward the mark -- but we had the lousiest
time trying to get around the big drilling rig that's offshore of Boston,
near Graves. The "Cyclone Vacuum" we called it, as no matter which way we
pointed the boat, we seemed to get closer to the rig. We close reached to
go high, we jibed to go low, we white-sailed to go higher, we flip-flopped
all over the compass, later seeing several other boats steam by to
windward on there way to the top mark. We thought we had our own private
Hell and were cursing our dumb luck for being out there at all. About
that time the eastern sky began to look a shade lighter, a south easterly
began to fill, if fitfully, and we managed to make good progress again.
And as dawn began to illuminate the cloudy day, we saw a sail making fast
on the horizon, looking as though it was coming *from* the next mark.
Claddagh! Ahhhhhh!!!! Hours ahead of us!!! Who else could it be?! And
so we lamented our fate and got on with the business of hauling our
surly butts around the course so we could get home and sleep.
The wing mark, and one leg to go, and as we approach we notice some sails
on the horizon bearing down behind us. Great, it's the B-fleet boat
we owe almost an hour to. We take the time when we round and then watch
them approach the mark as we surf towards home. Well distance being
what it is, and our addled minds grasping at straws, as the other boat
approached, it began to look more and more like Claddagh. No way!
And after each of us took a look with the binocs, we begrudgingly concluded
that is had to be the B-boat. They had Kevlar sails too, and the boat
just looked too small to be Claddagh, and besides, we'd already seen
Claddagh on the return leg. So we took their time as they rounded and
realized that unless we could take several minutes out of them on this
last leg, we were gonna be third. But wait! As they hoisted their chute,
again the hope that it was Claddagh welled up in our hearts. The chute
looked a lot like her new chute. "It's not Claddagh," was the resolute
pronouncement, however, when the colors and pattern just didn't quite
match. Damn, this B-fleet boat really has a lot of uncanny similarities.
Just to spite us, it seemed.
What the heck, in times of desolation, one needs to take solace where it
can be bound, and on Bodacious, on Sunday morning at 6:30 or so, solace was
found in the cooler. We had a cold case of Becks, and in rapid-fire fashion the
cans began to pile up in the cockpit. And we got happy, telling jokes,
poking fun at our own idiocy, and having a contest to see who could get the
boat to surf fastest. This lasted the entire last leg, and by the time
we finished we were exhausted from laughing. Dowse the chute, strap the
main, and we just shambled toward home, sort of looking over our shoulder
to see when the B-boat would pop out from behind the guano-coated
island (name?) that guards the entrance to Marblehead harbor. And there she
was at last, saving her time. Who cared...
Well, I had one last look with the binocs as she neared the committee boat.
I don't really know why. And as she got closer I strained my eyes to
see some tell-tail sign it was Claddagh -- hoping against hope to transmogrify
this B-fleet boat, even so I knew it wasn't. And as a part of myself stood
aloof in disbelief and ridicule at my own stupid blind hope, I spotted a
red stripe on the approaching boat's topsides. What, no way! My mind reeled.
Look again, harder, and get this mirage out of your system. But sure enough,
there was a red stripe, and unless the B-boat managed a paint job as she
sailed the course, it couldn't be her. "That's Claddagh," I said, stone
sober. But no one really heard or cared to humor me. "That's Claddagh!"
I repeated. "Lemme see those glasses!" (you idiot) and everyone starts
looking. Then Jon radioed the RC and sure enough, it was Claddagh.
Talk about satisfaction, and the way it came, oh boy, did we all feel
giddy. The rest of the day was spent sleeping peacefully.
;)
|
845.637 | crazy cat | SELECT::SPENCER | | Mon Aug 05 1991 15:00 | 10 |
| RE: -.1,
>>> a turtled Formula 40 cat!!!
Any more info on which one it might have been? (It's always interesting
to know in the NEMA fleet is out there pushing the envelope in such
conditions!)
tnx, J.
|
845.638 | BBR | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 05 1991 15:59 | 50 |
| Well, the Buzzards Bay Regatta came in like a lion and went out like a
lamb! As Dean noted, we had a hell of a day on Friday. Perfect
conditions in my view. Mid 80's, 15-25 knots of breeze, lot's of
boats. The collision we saw prior to the start was pretty humorous.
Luckily noone was hurt. Can't say the same about the turtled Formula
40 (Bison Blanc). One crew member was knocked unconsious and trapped
under water for some time. Was airlifted to Mass General where he was
listed in serious condition. Heard yesterday that he was in a coma
still. Don't know that to be fact! At any rate the 40 was right in
our way coming down the final, surfing, downwind leg. Hmmm...take the
hull to windward or leeward?
One of the dismastings was a 60 foot something or other that looked
like a cigar with two masts that was in our fleet. They were close
reaching at 13 knots when the mainmast dropped over the side. Back in
the harbor, somebody wrote on the mast lying on top of the boat "help,
I've fallen and I can't get up!" Also, a Rhodes 19 sank. Free and
Clear, an X-Yachts 3/4 tonner had its rig fold in half when a spreader
collapsed.
Oh yeah, the race. Well, we had a blast. 24 boats in our class. We
crossed the line second, but found out the next day that a J33,
Troubador had crossed the line 9 minutes behind us, saving their time
by seconds. Damn! We corrected out at third. Amazing Potatoe won by
a mile (literally). Their new keel is REALLY helping them... Are you
listening, John Collins?????
The next day was as different as you can get. It was not, as Lars, our
Swedish headsail trimmer would say, "a repeat of tomorrow". Overcast
with light winds. They sent us on a 17 mile race with two good beats.
We were forced to the left on the first beat and fell seriously behind
the leaders when a 30 degree shift to the right appeared. We fought
back on the last beat and the final light air reach to salvage a fifth,
which left us at third for a combined two day total. Whew!
Sunday started out very lumpy with a dying breeze. The race was
started in light air anyway. We rounded the first mark right behind
Amazing Potatoe. The next boat was 18 minutes behind. We had fought a
light air duel with AP all the way up the course. About half way to
the next mark the wind died completely and the sun broke through to
bake us. After an hour of seeing triple zeroes on the fun meter the
race committee put us out of our misery and abandoned the race.
So, awards were handed out using the scores as of Saturday. We took
third overall. Not bad, but would have liked a first! The only
consolation was that it could have been worse. We could have been
doing the Berringer! Glad to hear that the Claddaugh boys got their
due! Good job, Dean!
Dave
|
845.639 | CYC Summer Regatta | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Tue Aug 13 1991 11:41 | 49 |
| Sunday was the Corinthian YC Summer Regatta ... and Bo's tuneup for the
NOODs later this week. There was a good fleet of eight boats racing in
the A class. Winds were generally light (6-8) from the south,southeast.
It was your basic good day to be on the water.
The race was a four-legged affair, long upwind/downwind followed by a
short upwind/downwind ... about 18 miles.
The first leg took us from Tinker's Gong to the Monster Buoy ... dead
upwind. We went right, the wind went left ... and at the mark it was
Loose Goose (saving her time on everybody) followed by Claddagh, Jazz,
Arbella, and Bodacious. Bringing up the rear were Smoke, Gray Matter,
and High Zoot, respectively.
Then a long downwind leg to Marblehead Bell. We managed to hang with
Claddagh pretty well, and passed Arbella. But Jazz played the course
better than everybody else, and put lots of time on the rest of the
fleet. Goose continued steaming off into the distance, and looked like
they were heading for an easy victory.
At the second mark came a bit of controversy. We were to round
Marblehead Bell and head for a portable mark which the RC had posted at
180 degrees, 3 miles. We interpreted that to mean from Marblehead Bell
which was the mark we were rounding ... everybody else interpreted it
to mean from Tinker's Gong, which is where the RC had posted the course
from. Now, the kicker is that the way you rounded Marblehead Bell
depended on which way you interpreted the rule ... we left the mark to
starboard ... Jazz, Claddagh, and Arbella left it to port. Needless to
say, we protested Jazz, Claddagh, and Arbella ... and Claddagh protested
us.
On the second upwind leg, we went right again, and this time the wind
did too ... life was good. We passed both Claddagh and Jazz, and were
the second boat around the portable ... many minutes behind Loose
Goose, with Claddagh less than a minute behind and Jazz about three
minutes back. Arbella was by then well out of any contention for a top
finish.
The race to the finish was definitely close between us and Claddagh.
We owed them 54 seconds ... we crossed 53 seconds in front of them.
Loose Goose had to have saved their time on everybody else ... they
were finished, moored, and on their second round of drinks by the time
we crossed the line.
So depending on how the protest turned out (I still don't know), we
either took a 3rd or a DSQ.
... Bob
|
845.640 | Which was it? | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Aug 13 1991 12:07 | 16 |
| Bob, there's a big difference between 3 miles at 180 degrees from
Marblehead Bell and the same from Tinker's! Which did it turn out to
be when you rounded it? Was it on station as you interpreted it, or
where the others thought it should be, or neither? I would have
interpreted the instructions as you did without any special race
instructions to the contrary.
We were out on a social sail watching the downwind leg from the monster
bouy to m'head Bell. Couldn't believe the lead Goose had! They took
down their chute 200 yards from the mark! Talk about cocky!
Good luck in the NOOD's. I think you guys are doing a good thing by
doing a major regatta before the PHRF NE's. Good starting practice
which you CANNOT get in local racing!
Dave
|
845.641 | Just a chance to do what we love to do | EPS::SAMUELSON | | Tue Aug 13 1991 15:00 | 20 |
| Just a note of sadness... I heard a report yesterday (This is unconfirmed, so
if anyone has any better knowledge than I, please speak up. If this turns
out to be false, my sincerest appologies to those who may be personally
affected) that the crew member aboard the Formula-40 that capsized at the
Buzzards Bay Regatta died. He never recovered from his coma.
On another somewhat serious note...
The storm last Saturday morning was in the MAJOR category on Buzzards bay.
Multiple yachts loose. Laury Willard was aboard his boat in Marion and
managed to avoid being 'T'ed by a run-away 40'+ something. Several others
away in both Marion and Matapoisette. The harbor where we were had two
boats loose, one is almost certainly salvage. Both were still hard aground
as of yesterday. Good thing for Marblehead that the storm was SE rather
than NE.
On a more upbeat note...
After 1 race at the E-22 worlds in San Francisco, its Dennis Conner 1
and Judd Smith 2.
|
845.642 | I'm still not clear on this ruling ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Tue Aug 13 1991 21:14 | 14 |
| RE .640
Dave, the portable was 3 miles, 180 degrees from Tinker's ... the RC
interpreted it the same was as the rest of the fleet (apparently) did,
except for us. However, they decided to throw out all protests because
they said the rule was ambiguous, and it was a matter of 4 degrees
difference, depending on the interpretation. BTW - the course was
somewhat longer than we thought too, and Claddagh beat us by about 11
seconds, corrected.
On to racing in the NOOD ... see ya next week.
... Bob
|
845.643 | Chandler Hovey | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Aug 20 1991 13:55 | 48 |
| This weekend was the Chandler Hovey race sponsored by Eastern YC. We
wanted to do one local race before the PHRF NE's next weekend. We had
8 boats in A fleet including Scherherezade and Loose Goose, the J 44.
Wind was 15 to 18, fairly steady out of the southwest.
A critical factor in Sunday's race was the party we had for one of our
crew members, who is getting married and moving to Florida (both of
which would cause to question his judgement), Saturday night. A LOT of
Myers rum was consumed. It is safe to say the boat in total had a
massive, brain numbing, hangover. It varied only a small amount in
degree.
First impact was that we missed the 10 minute gun after a short
postponement. We ended up at the stern of the committee boat for the
five minute gun. Oh my god! They're going to shoot that that thing
right next to us! We put up a headsail and sailed away for two and a
half minutes and then tacked back toward the line for two and a half
minutes for a perfect Vanderbilt start! Jazz tried to force us up, but
we had so much speed on that we rolled past before she could even think
about stuffing us. Oh, how nice to be back in local, passive starting
situations again!
Wind shifts didn't play a big role in the first leg. (BTW, the course
was a triangle, windward, leeward) It was all boatspeed. there was no
talking at all outside of what was absolutely necessary. We were
second around the top mark behind Loose Goose, but well within our time
allowance. Scherherezade was twenty seconds behind (we rate even).
The next two reaching legs were uneventfull except that we picked up
more time on Scherherezade when they blew their jibe.
Second upwind leg I thought I was going to die. Never have I fealt so
bad. When we rounded and turned for home on the final downwind leg I
made my way to the transom to feed the fishes. Instantly recovered!
Even had a beer or two after the race.
We crossed second but well within the time Loose Goose owed us.
Scherherezade took third place. In the Eastern YC series (Lambert,
July 4th, and Hovey) we had two firsts and a second, and Scherherazade
had one first and two seconds. I'd say we have a rivalry shaping up!
Because of the condition of the crew there was no second guessing
anybody else's job the whole race. We were too tired to be mean to
each other. A rare civility became the norm! And we still won! Maybe
we'll do this every weekend. Hmm...maybe not.
Dave (whose boat apparently survived Bob intact)
P.S. How was the NOOD??? How was Newport during the storm???
|
845.644 | Bo' knows racing in the NOOD ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Tue Aug 20 1991 18:07 | 59 |
| The NOOD was um, ah ... interesting. There were some exciting starts
and near-starts, with twenty-nine J/35's on the line. All three days
were moderate to heavy SW winds. All five races were L-course ...
windward/leeward, twice around, with the starting line somewhere in the
middle of the leg.
Friday's first race was a little delayed, as there were five general
recalls in the J/35 fleet before they finally got a race going. Every
time there were at least 10 boats over early. Some didn't look like
they were even concerned about staying behind the line before the gun.
Their tactic finally paid off, as the RC invoked the around the ends
rule ... but then didn't call anyone over early, which kind of surprised
me as at least a third of the fleet crossed the line ahead of the gun.
The second race, same thing ... very disappointing. Those who broke
the rules were handed a big advantage right off the start ... in a
fleet that size, a good start is the difference between sailing your
tactics and sailing what everybody in front of you leaves you with.
The racing itself was very different for us ... much more aggressive and
close than we're used to. It was impossible to have a game plan, as
most of the time it seemed you just had to tack for clear air. And it
was surprising, and often disappointing to see just how many of those
folks either didn't know the racing rules or just plain ignored them.
It seemed like if you wanted to call every infraction you'd spend the
whole week-end in the protest room.
Saturday was basically a carbon copy of Friday, as there were four
general recalls in the first race and none in the second race. Both
Friday and Saturday they brought us outside.
Sunday we did a single race inside the bay. It was the most exciting
race of the regatta, as the wind was up in the mid-20's with higher
gusts. Racing in close quarters when you're doing 10+ kts downwind is
truly exciting, and something to get you're adrenelin going. Mark
roundings got a little hairy at times, with boats very aggressively
carving out space in very close proximity with each other. On top of
it all, the windward mark had to be held in place by a mark boat ... so
we were rounding not only the mark, but the boat as well.
On the whole the crew and boat performed pretty well, even though we
finished solidly in the middle of the fleet in every race. Our downwind
legs were consistently good ... it seemed like just about every time we
put up the chute we passed boats. I think spending all that time chasing
Claddagh has had some benefit after all ... ;^)
Basically, it was great practice for the PHRF NE's. The Bo' crew had
LOTS of large-fleet starting practice, and should be able to use it to
good advantage this coming week-end.
The wrist bracelets were a waste of money this year. You've got to
buy a bracelet to get under the tent, but they close up everything so
early you really don't get much for your $25. The partying was over
before a reasonable crew could dock their boat and clean up a little.
Friday night was the only time the Bo' crew made it over there in time
go get a drink !!! The social side of this regatta has gone seriously
downhill in the past couple of years. Fortunately, the racing was good.
... Bob
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845.645 | JFK regatta details in this month's Sail magazine | AKO539::KALINOWSKI | | Wed Aug 21 1991 13:03 | 9 |
| BOB
Congrats on positive write-up in this month's issue of SAIL
magazine. Neat to see Wags on the same pages with trans-atlantic and
AC action.
john
|
845.646 | More "in the NOOD" | 20263::CANDE | Ed Cande | Wed Aug 21 1991 13:46 | 32 |
|
As with the Division A boats, the Division B boats spent Friday and Saturday
about 2 miles out. (circle was at "R"2). Although Friday was a bit on the
rolling side (those of us on J/24's might have a slightly different view than
crew on the bigger boats), Saturday actually was fairly calm (seas where down
as was the wind). With the the J/24 North Americans going on in Toronto (I
believe that's where they are) this week, it was very interesting racing
without some of the big names there (Kenny Reid, Jeff Moore, etc.).
As with division A, they kept us inside the bay on Sunday (thank you, RC), but
further north than the A boats, 2-3 miles above the bridge. What seemed to be
medium air quickly built to 22-25 with gusts pushing 30. Planing a J/24
nearly continuously on the second downwind leg (we did all WL-2X as well)
can really be wild!
After Friday's racing "the yellow boat" was in first, with Crush close behind.
PMS (Kim Fergeson) had a great day Saturday to take over first. Unfortunately
we bugged out right after Sunday's race to get back up north, so I haven't
heard the final results yet.
Winner of the best T-shirt at the NOOD has to go to
BO
don't know boatspeed
Never saw the front, but just seemed to hit the spot.
-- Ed
|
845.647 | where'd they get them shirts NEway ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Wed Aug 21 1991 14:20 | 7 |
| RE: BO don't know boatspeed
Yeah, we saw those too. Well, boatspeed didn't seem to be our problem.
Tactics was another question altogether.
... Bob (merci Bo' crew)
|
845.648 | Why not protest? | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Aug 21 1991 16:09 | 22 |
| Re: .644
Bob, you're saying that there were many flagrant violations of racing
rules? Did any of them impact you? If so, were they of the sort you
could win a protest over? If so, why not protest? Or, better yet, hit
them and teach them a lesson.
We've spent most of the summer racing in large fleets and have seen
lots of aggressive interpretations of the rules, but none flagrant or
boat threatening. The rules only are rules when the action will impede
the right of way vessel. By impede, I mean that the right of way
vessel would hit the burdened vessel if it carried through its
maneuver. Most questionable actions involve room at the leeward mark.
If a boat says you have no overlap and will not give in, the best thing
to do is swing by their stern as if acknowledging their rights. If you
hit, they were clearly wrong and you win the protest. Even if it is
close you have a good chance of winning. What you do NOT want to do is
hold your course and then hit the guy midships as he turns the bouy.
You will always lose because it makes you look like the aggressor.
Dave
|
845.649 | I'd really rather party than protest ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Wed Aug 21 1991 16:35 | 40 |
| Dave, that's a good example of the difference in attitude between you
and me relative to racing. I will NEVER hit another boat, or let them
hit me, simply to "teach them a lesson". Better to get rolled and go
home a few places lower down in the finish column than go home with a
damaged boat and possible crew injury. The silver means more to some
folks than others, I suppose. Personally I'm not a "win at all costs"
type of person. I'd like to believe that everybody really wants to
play by the rules, but I'm not really that naive.
The most flagrant violations were the many boats over early ... getting
a 1-2 boatlength lead right off the starting line in a 29 boat fleet is
a HUGE advantage. The RC didn't even try to call individual boats for
being over early, and there were many of those in EVERY race. IMO -
some boats seemed to understand that that's the way it would turn out
and didn't even attempt to be behind the line when the gun went off.
Those were the ones who consistently made out. In this respect I fault
the RC for letting them get away with it.
Other violations included boats TAKING room at the mark. I disagree
with the tactic of letting them hit you. I realize that's an important
aspect of racing, but frankly I agree with those who'd rather lose a
race than intentionally let someone hit them. Boat repairs are costly,
both in terms of time and $$, no matter who's at fault. Twice we got
rolled by boats who had no overlap but went for it anyway. In one
case, the boat actually pushed the mark out of the way. Yes we could
have protested them, but wouldn't it be better if people simply played
by the rules. Personally I hate protests, and if racing ever gets to
the point where I've either got to spend my time in protest rooms or
play patsy to aggressive sailors who don't want to play by the rules,
I'll choose to stop racing altogether ... I'm leaning toward that
inclination as time goes by anyway.
IMO - Yacht racing is supposed to be about boat speed, crew work, and
tactics. I don't like the sea lawyering aspect of the sport, and never
will. This is the part that always seems to play a dominant role in
larger fleets. I understand it's a necessary aspect to the sport, but
that doesn't mean I have to like it.
... Bob
|
845.650 | bizzare finishes | AKO539::KALINOWSKI | | Wed Aug 21 1991 18:22 | 40 |
| re .649
Bob, I think Dave was agreeing with you. Saftey first, but protest
someone you think is not playing by the rules even if the rc should
have seen the infraction.
I saw a bizzare version of don't be aggressive just two weeks ago
racing in Maine. The finish line as really skewed to favor port. The
seas were rolling and the wind light. If you used the favored end of
the finish line you went just past the committee boat to be able to
cross the line on Starboard.
As I was finishing I had to hail a boat on port who tacked off. Once
finished, I looked straight back to watch a person in my class you had
been bearing down on me. As he got close to the finish line, there was
a boat on port in his way, he hailed them, but they did nothing (didn't
wish to get caught in the backwash of the boat I had made change
course). The stbd boat hailed them again and they said hold your course.
At this point they had not crossed the line. They were trying to pinch
it on port and sneak behind the committee boat. As the stbd boat came
to the line he thought he was going to t-bone the port sailor so he
headed up trying to slow down catching the back of the boat. Both protested.
The port tacker said he was across the line and could not be
protested. He also said the stbd boat should have fallen off to
avoid collision even if it meant he could not lay the finish line.
Nobody on the committee boat saw anything (ie they wanted to keep
thier mouth shut, as there was lots of hailing going on). So the
protest committee ruled that the collision happened after both sail
numbers were called, meaning the port boat was exonerated. I had real
problems with this one.
This seems to go against right-of-way, but they explained it as even
if the port boat was wrong, you bear off to keep from hitting, even
if you cann't lay the mark, or it means you cann't slow down. And once
your stern crosses the finish line, you're all done.
john
|
845.651 | Bob Marley would agree | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Aug 21 1991 18:43 | 26 |
| Bob, you and I DO disagree on this. I'm not advocating being a sea
lawyer, but if somebody hit a mark and pushed me out of the way, I'd
see that son of a gun tossed! Sailing World had an article recently
about the distaste for enforcing rules and the resulting chaos on the
race course. For goodness sakes, if we don't enforce rules, then
what's the point of having them?!?! At that point, I'll join you for a
margarita at sunset in my cruiser.
As for boat contact, there are ways to do it without damage. I wasn't
advocating letting somebody hit you, but rather you hit somebody else
when they say you have no room. If somebody takes room they are not
allowed, let them in if it is a close call because you will probably
win a protest but end up with a hole in the side of your boat! If it
is not at all close then a quick decision has to be made, but it should
involve lots of bluffing and screaming. Ultimately, you have to grab
for your rights.
As for the early starting, I agree that committees should give a fleet
three tries and then black flag the fleet and enforce it. The best way
is to require bow numbers easy to see from the committee.
All I'm saying is "stand up for your rights". Winning at all costs is
not a priority. But that doesn't mean you have to let people walk
(sail) all over you.
Dave
|
845.652 | | ULTRA::WITTENBERG | Secure Systems for Insecure People | Thu Aug 22 1991 11:03 | 19 |
| Re: .650
The protest committee blew it. You're subject to the rules until
you clear the finish line, and after finishing you are required to
keep clear of other boats still racing. So unless both boats had
cleared the finish line (that means gotten off it completely, not
just finished), a rules violation occured.
As for when to protest, I got tired of protesting someone in every
race for a blatant rules violation, so I stopped racing Lasers.
The final straw was when someone rocked past me (he was on port, I
was on starboard, and he didn't want to duck), admitted rocking,
got tossed from the race, and still won the regatta using that
race as his throw out. I had protested 8 boats in 7 races, won all
8 protests, and was too disgusted to want to race that way any
more. I was the only one protesting despite massive infractions
and a fair number of collisions.
--David
|
845.653 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Thu Aug 22 1991 12:01 | 29 |
| David W. you summed up my feelings pretty well. I do agree with Dave
J. about the fact that you have to enforce the rules, or there ain't
any point in having them. What I don't like is when you have to do
that by protesting one or more boats in EVERY race.
Two years ago, when WAGS won their class in the NOOD, we were involved
in a protest in every single race ... the outcome of those protests
were instrumental in our taking 1st overall. That's not what I want to
race for. We did well on the course, but our overall standing was
really determined in the protest room.
In the case of Bo' and this year's NOODs, it really wasn't my call so
any discussion is really at an academic level anyway. But except for
the last race, there were many protests in every race. In fact, I'd
say the longest line you could get into back at the Yachting Center was
the line to the protest room. I think if we were doing better than
middle of the fleet, it would have made a difference to protest some of
those infractions. But when it's the difference between 14th and 15th,
why bother. In the two most flagrant cases we made our point right on
the course by beating the offending boats across the finish line
anyway.
Don't get me wrong, I know that protests are a necessary part of the
sport, especially in competitive fleets. But it really does take all
the fun out of racing when you have to get into those situations too
often.
... Bob
|
845.654 | | CHRCHL::GERMAIN | | Thu Aug 22 1991 12:35 | 4 |
| So wouldn't the remedy be to make the consequences of an accepted
protest more severe?
Gregg
|
845.655 | NOODs/J35 Fleet | VERGA::FACHON | | Thu Aug 22 1991 12:42 | 45 |
| I've been out for two days and missed the NOODs comments
but would like to add some thoughts.
Yes, many boats seemed to grab an advantage by being over early,
and we consistently paid the price. It's almost impossible to overcome
the "gas deficit" on windward legs of 2 miles or less, but although
Bob may feel differently, I think we did a credible job with our
tactics, given the built-in deficit and the quality of the competition.
Maybe I'm just being defensive as I called a *lot* of the tactics,
but I really don't feel bad about that aspect of my performance, or any
other aspect for that matter. Well, we did have one protest situation
that cost us 6 places in the 4th race, and that was my fault. A port
starboard crossing, Bo on port, I thought we would clear, but the starboard
tacker seemed to be riding a lift and the situation looked progressively
worse until, at the moment of truth, they hailed and rounded up. We
should have ducked or tacked to lee-bow them I suppose, but if they'd
held a straight course I think we'd have cleared them -- though by inches.
Anyway, we decided it wasn't worth a fight we'd most likely lose, so we
took the penalty instead of the DSQ. Shame on me, as there really was no
tactical advantage to cutting it that close.
As for crew work, we had some terrific stuff going for us. Really!
In one race, we had a halyard part half way up the weather leg. The
crew reaction was pure Stars and Stripes, with the genny coming down
and getting re-hoisted in double-time. We certainly lost some boats,
but not nearly so many as one might expect.
From my perspective, the guys who snuck in at the bottom marks
were aggresive, but in only one instance were they in the wrong -- that
was the boat that *may* have pushed off on the mark. We were on the
wrong side to see, but no one coming down from the other side said a
word, so it's tough to be certain. Otherwise, we just plain got rolled
on the final approach, but in *every* instance we got them back on the
rounding itself, as our crew work and helmsmanship allowed us to exit
the roundings with superior speed.
I enjoyed the NOODs tremendously. We've missed that sort of
competition the past couple of years, but I think Jon has the bug
again. If I keep racing, it will be because we cut back a lot
on local stuff and do more major J regattas.
Hope to see you at the PHRFs...
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.656 | throw out a dsq??? | AKO539::KALINOWSKI | | Thu Aug 22 1991 13:05 | 9 |
| re .652
How does one admit to cheating and get to throw it out. On Hobies,
you lose a protest, it's # of boats +2 and you can't throw the race
out.
Motivation to do your turns on the course.
john
|
845.657 | | ELWOOD::KEENAN | | Thu Aug 22 1991 17:12 | 28 |
| RE: making the rules more severe
Unfortunately, the trend is just the opposite. Right now, I can go
out on the race course and clobber a starboard tacker while going to
windward or crash inside at the leeward mark. What's the penalty?
Two circles or a 20% penalty. In some situations a rule breaker can
come out ahead, like a big one-design fleet where 20 out of 50 boats
converge on the windward mark at the same time.
What's the penalty for brushing a mark when no other boats are fouled
and no advantage is gained? It's the same as above: two circles. This
is all wrong. We need new rules where the severity of the infraction
is factored in.
RE: PMS fleets
This may sound cynical and somewhat illegal, but if the fleet is going
over the line early and getting away with it, you might as well join
them and be in the front row. The last couple times I've been PMS'ed,
it's when I've been away from the crowd. I've had much better luck
in PMS fleets by hiding just below a stack of boats that's bulging
over the line.
I know, I know, the rules say it's every boats responsibility to start
correctly. But if you can't see the comittee boat because of a
bulge, then you don't know where the line is (assuming no
range on the pin end). You might as well pull the trigger early and
get out in front row.
|
845.658 | Yes | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Aug 22 1991 17:36 | 5 |
| Re: -.1
Agree, agree, agree! With BOTH statements!
Dave
|
845.659 | whatever happened to sportsmanship ??? | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Fri Aug 23 1991 10:23 | 10 |
| RE .657
Paul, I know where you're coming from but I guess I'm just in the
minority on this one ... I'd rather lose than have to cheat. The rules
say you're supposed to be behind the line when the gun goes off. If I
find I can't be competitive while complying with the rules, then I'll
simply find something else to do with my time.
... Bob
|
845.660 | | ELWOOD::KEENAN | | Fri Aug 23 1991 10:48 | 21 |
| Bob,
I salute your sense of fairplay. It's competitors like you that
make the sport worthwhile.
How about looking at this from another angle. This my be a giant
rationalization, but here goes. No one is in a better position to call
the line than the comittee boat. I go on the assumption (this is a big
one) that the RC is not blind and they'll general recall if they can't
handle PMS boats individually.
It's very easy to be in the middle of the line and think you're over
when you really aren't. For example, how many times have you sailed
across the finish line and anticipated the honk from the comittee boat?
For me, it always comes several seconds later than I expect. It's the
mid-line sag phenomena. Consider this: when was the last time your boat
got hit w/ a PMS? If it hasn't happened in several years, you're
probably starting a few boat lengths behind every race! My goal is
to PMS once every one or two seasons. The only way to know if you're
on the line at the start is to go over every now and then.
|
845.661 | | TUNER::HO | | Fri Aug 23 1991 11:24 | 30 |
| re .660
Paul's right. He's not just being pragmatic. He's obeying the laws
of physics - the ones that say you can't see through dacron. Only the
boats next to the pin and the boat know where the line is. All the
others just see dacron on both sides. For them, there is only a
virtual line running across the bows of the boats around them. If
you're not even with that line, you're late. If you can really see the
pin and the boat, you're either way behind or way over.
Re leeward mark rounding jam ups.
In a big one design fleet there is often a line of boats waiting to
round the leeward mark. But boats inside of ones more than two boats
away have the right to round ahead - which they usually assert to the
dismay of those who got there first and waited patiently in line.
There is a certain unfairness in the rule because it encourages what
appears to be cutting the line but no one has figured out a good
alternative.
If it looks like you'll be one of the unfortunates who gets cut off,
try sailing on past the mark and rounding to leeward of the congestion.
If right is the way your strategy says to go, foot off and get there
ASAP. Otherwise, sail on port tack 'til you get your air back and
tack. You'll then be on starboard and most of those who called for
room will have the privilege of getting out of your way. It looks like
you're giving away far too many boatlengths when you do this but the
only defense against a gas attack is to get away from it.
- gene
|
845.662 | go shallow, and close to the mark... | AKO539::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Aug 23 1991 13:16 | 19 |
| re .661
Sorry Gene, but I have to disagree on the leeward rounding routine.
From race'n school they taught us to slow down and stay near the pin for
the "pinwheel" effect. If you go low, not only are you several boat
lenghts further down the course trying to go upwind, but you most
certainly will have a line of boat just above you making you life
miserable. We were taught to "go slow to win". back off and time it
to stay near the mark and if you are lucky, some starboard boat will
round badly and let you get even higher.
Even worse is to get into an outer pinwheel. There is not enough
air to breathe, never mind move the boat. The only time ducking works
is if you see Randy-Rambo making a demollision derby at the mark. Many
times a lot of the gang will get banged into irons, and nobody moves.
At that point it is better to duck low.
john
|
845.663 | Just like a merry-go-round! | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Aug 23 1991 13:52 | 18 |
| About the pinwheel effect--never be more than the second boat out even
if it means falling behind one of the two innermost boats. Only a
starboard poled competitor can prevent you from doing this. As Gene
says, there is nothing worse than being the third boat in a rounding
pinwheel and finding that boats entering from directly behind the first
two have rights on you!
I've raced on J24's where the traffic was such that the skipper let go
of the helm to help get the chute in. He wasn't doing anything anyway
since we were jammed in between about ten boats all trying at the same
time. On those situations it makes no sense to protest because it
isn't practical to figure out who started the whole mess.
Hey! the PHRF NE's are here this weekend! We are psyched! Also we are
one of the few with zero MIR's (marine industry rep's) on board. I
know Bo's in the same category.
Dave
|
845.664 | there's more to the PHRF NE's than just A-fleet | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Fri Aug 23 1991 14:10 | 10 |
| Correction Dave ... you're one of the few "hot" boats with zero MIR's.
You won't find MIR's on any boat that rates over about 80 (except for
maybe Io, who rates 84), although there will be literally dozens of
those out there this week-end.
No MIR's on WAGS either ... then again, we don' need no steeenking
rock stars ... ;^)
... Bob
|
845.665 | | TUNER::HO | | Fri Aug 23 1991 14:31 | 32 |
| re .662
Gotta be careful of all that booklearning. You might have to use it in
the real world.
The only way to get close to the center of the leeward mark pinwheel is
to be the leftmost boat. That give you rights over all other boats
ouside the two boatlength circle. Then you can tell them all to shift
right. Then some boats on the right head to the left to become the new
leftmost boat and those who stay on the right shift right some more.
Iterate that a few times and you'll fall off the right end of the
earth.
If you're in the middle or farther back in a large fleet, you'll see
two lines at the leeward mark, boats on the right waiting to round, and
boats on the left going for the inside overlap. What should you do?
If it looks like the throughput at the mark is reasonably fast, get in
the left line. If it's a real pileup at the mark, aim right for it,
gibe to starboard when you start running out of maneuvering room,
and use your right of way to sail through the line on the right. Then
sail as far from the crowd as necessary to maintain speed gibing back
when you got the room. Forget about going high til the crowd is
behind.
More critical than losing a few lengths at the mark is having the
ability to decide which side of the course you want to sail on. If you
want to go right, you're already there. If you want to go left, you
can tack at will because there is no one on your weather hip. You
start believing this after you see those boats who rounded wide
crossing tacks ahead later.
- gene
|
845.666 | | SMURF::CANDE | Ed Cande | Mon Aug 26 1991 09:06 | 24 |
|
Re. NE PHRF
I can honestly say I'm glad I wasn't on a boat in class 1. Looking up and
seeing Wired that far out in the lead blew my mind. How in the world did they
get that far out in the lead, did they have different marks? They weren't even
the scratch boat, were they?
Class 2 was better but still had Vamp (err, was that Tramp) taking control.
Now back in Class 3 we were a little more even. The standings where pretty
close, close enough so that number 8 pulled up to 4th and the number 10 boat
Saturday pulled themselves up to fifth overall. Who would have thought the
shortest boat in the class (Ohlsen 30) could be the first boat across the finish
on Sunday. With the chop a little less on Sunday, we were able to carry our 150
rather than our 142 (from Saturday), and I still can't believe how high Shadowfax
can point with that 150. Now if he'll just get a new spinny for next year....
Although I think that the pointing helped more than anything, the right side of
the course did seem to be favored on Sunday for those upwind legs.
-- Ed
|
845.667 | can't win 'em all ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Mon Aug 26 1991 10:02 | 66 |
| Well it wasn't a great week-end for WAGS, but it was a fine week-end to
be out racing. We ended up with perhaps our worst three races of the
season. But there were the "small" victories, and overall we had a
pretty good time out there.
Saturday was two races, both windward/leeward type courses. The wind
was in the 12-16 kt range, northeast clocking slowly to the east. We
made our first bad decision of the week-end before the race, when we
decided to go with the heavy #1 rather than the light. The wind was
at the upper end of the light #1 and we were expecting it to build. But
in hindsight we should have gone with the light #1 on the first leg to
help us power through the waves. Rounding the first mark we were well
back in the fleet ... about 13th out of 16. The first downwind leg
showed us just how rusty we were, having not raced in about six weeks.
We blew a couple of gybes, and lost a couple more boats in the process.
On the second upwind leg we got the correct sail up and made back the
boats we'd lost in the previous leg. Downwind we passed a couple more,
and just nipped our rival, Io, at the finish ... one of the very few
times we've ever beaten them when they had Judd Smith at the helm.
Thank goodness for small victories.
The second race we got hosed at the start, as we found ourselves
between the most aggressive boat in the fleet (Claddagh) and the most
inept (Gray Matter). We had luffing rights on Gray Matter, and
Claddagh had luffing rights on us. But Gray Matter refused to come up,
and Claddagh literally hit us in the stern when we had no place to go.
So we did the only thing we could ... harden up and cross early to keep
from getting creamed. Unfortunately, we then had to wait for the
entire fleet to pass us before we could even turn around and restart.
That put us about four minutes back of the rest of the fleet, and we
never recovered. However, as a crew we did sail much better than the
first race, and we managed to pass a few boats to keep from being DFL.
We did protest Gray Matter, but it was moot as they were one of the
boats behind us anyway so there was nothing to gain from it.
Sunday they gave us a gold cup course, about 13.2 miles, in lighter
(8-11 kt) easterly breeze. We got off to a good start, but picked the
wrong side of the course ... Ed, the class 2 boats who went right did
not make out at all. Six of the first seven boats around the first
mark had gone left ... unfortunately we weren't one of them. Again we
showed a little rust, as there were some downwind mistakes that aren't
the norm for the WAGS crew the last couple of years. But we recovered
and held our own on the reaching legs. On the second upwind leg, right
was the way to go, and we passed three boats that owed us 12 seconds
per mile ... again, thank goodness for small victories.
Overall we tanked in the results column ... finishing 11th, 13th, and
10th out of 16 in the three races. But that was secondary to the
comaraderie, great weather, and fun that we enjoyed this weekend
anyway. Besides ... there's always the next race ... ;^)
About the only *real* negative to the week-end was that they held the
skipper's meeting at the Boston Yacht Club this year, rather than at
Eastern. And once again the BYC proved that where they're concerned,
snobbery rules. They would not allow us to use their parking lot, and
many of the cars (including mine) were ticketed or towed, as there
isn't much for legal parking on that side of Marblehead. The skipper's
meeting started at 7 PM, and the M'head cops were out there ticketing
cars at 7:05. I really wish they'd move the skipper's meeting back
to Eastern, or to Corinthian, where you can find a place to park. I
figure the M'head PD made a ton of money Friday nite at the expense of
those who attended the skipper's meeting. IMO - if you're not willing
to open your facilities to those attending a function, you shouldn't be
allowed to host the function in the first place.
... Bob
|
845.668 | | VERGA::FACHON | | Mon Aug 26 1991 11:15 | 32 |
| The PHRFs were fun, especially the party at the Corinthian
on Sunday. Couldn't beleive they'd allow dancing like that,
and sure enough, they did shut it off, but not before some
riotous fun.
Anyone who got a ticket because the BYC didn't allow parking should
send copies of the ticket and/or towing bill to the club, and suggest
that this is the last year they'll be coming to the regatta if the BYC
insists on being such an inconsiderate host.
The racing was good, and as Bob and Dave noted, no hired guns aboard
Bo. We did ok, but were in the running in two of three races to
do significantly better. Ended up 7th overall. Tough to touch
Vamp. Rating 75, she's tougher than Claddagh. And Rocket Robbie
sailed Jazz again, so they had her moving, especially downwind, once
again proving the boat can beat her present rating. I wonder who was
on Rustler, as she was very tough.
At the Corinthian, we had a chance to talk with Doyle, and Jon echoed
my sentiments that this is Bo's last year to do serious PHRF. We're
going one-design. Robbie then launched into a pitch to help us with
our one-design "program." Don't know where that will go, but I know
we don't need pro help so much as the right type of competition to
improve our competitiveness. We're pretty close to the next step.
About big regattas and over early starts, Doyle made an interesting
observation -- you've got to press with the leaders and take the
black flag if you get caught. Period. No other way to be in the
front row, and if you aren't there, you won't break away.
Cheers mates,
Dean
|
845.669 | We were happy | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Aug 26 1991 16:35 | 68 |
| Good regatta! Great weather, sunny and cool. Good breeze. Great
competition! Good hospitality by two out three YC's (the BYC ALWAYS
pulls that stuff).
Out class was basically forty footers with a J44, a Dobroth 42, and a
Nelson/Mareck 45 thrown in for good measure. Seventeen boats in our
class (Class 1). As already mentioned, the Tripp 40, Wired rates an
unbelievable 54. That boat is way faster than 54. I did the Mac on a
Tripp and we were passing 50 footers! It represents the next
generation and a clear leap in spped per foot!
Saturday had two races. The first race we were secon around the
windward mark behind Wired (ofcourse) and third around the leeward
mark. Going back to the windward mark we went left again and got on
the wrong side of a 15 degree shift. Ouch!! Ninth around the windward
mark. In the downwind leg we passed four boats by working shifts and
jibing eight times in 2.5 miles. Finished 5th.
Second race we got a crummy and I mean crummy start. There was so
little wind where we ended up that my lungs turned inside out! Fouth
back to a seventh place finish. After two races we had 12 points and
were fifth overall behind Wired, Amazing Potatoe, Coalition and Taylor
Anne.
Toward the end of race number two we were approaching the finish line
upwind when we wanted to tack behind a competitor's stern. To do it we
had to let the main out first to let him past and fling the boat
around. Just missed his stern, but it worked. Our tactition was
overhauling the mainsheet to get it back in quicker by straddling the
traveller and honking down while I trimmed. When it was almost all the
way in he began bellowing. I thought he meant to trim more so I pulled
harder. He just bellowed louder. Now I'm confused. What the hell
does he want? Must want me to trim more. It's a bitch, but I pull
even more. He bellows louder yet. Finally, I ease out a foot and he
falls to the cockpit floor writhing in pain. Seems he caught his, er,
private parts, in the mainsheet block and I was trimming it in even
more. It didn't bleed much, but looked like it must have hurt! We
were rolling in laughter, and even he saw the humor eventually.
Saturday night we had the self same tactician's bachelor party at
Maddie's. I can't get into details, but it involved corndogs and
Sambuca. It was ugly.
Sunday we put our hangover theory to the test. We needed to put three
boats between us and Coalition and Taylor Anne to take third for the
ragatta. We picked up the BN from Rumours the prior night and told him
to meet us at eight the next morning. We were late, but he showed and
spent the time fixing our blown up runner winch. Good to have a pro on
board! So we sailed with a crew of twelve, only four or fewer were
capable of reasoning at a level higher than a hamster.
Race three we got a great start in the front row, kept the sails
twisted for speed and plowed through the chop in medium to light air.
We got in front early (except ofcourse for Wired) and stayed there.
Took a second for that race. Taylor had a collision at the start,
found themselves in the way-back machine by the first mark and dropped
out. Coalition saved their time on Amazing Potatoe to finish fifth.
We are now tied in points at fourteen. The tiebreaker is elapsed time
overall. We beat her two out of three races and had a five minute
advantage in time, so we took third, she took fourth. Now that's close
racing!
Overall we were very pleased. We beat all the Taylor 40's and lost
only to boats with obvious rating inconsistencies. The party at the
CYC was pretty fun, but we were too tired to enjoy it. This is the end
of our serious season. Two weeks off and then some fall series stuff.
Dave
|
845.670 | State of the state | EPS::SAMUELSON | | Tue Aug 27 1991 17:31 | 46 |
| Well, the PHRF New Englands were very interesting (as has been the entire
season)...
1) Another nail in the coffin for IMS.
The Tripp 40 (Wired) is given a PHRF rating of 54 against the Taylor 40's at
63 (they added 17" to their booms and took a 3 sec penalty) and C&C37R at 66.
In IMS, Wired rates 605, the Taylor's and the 37R about 611. Thus, if we were
racing IMS, we would have all owed Wired less time! Wired is clearly a break
through boat. Take nothing away from it! But it shows that any measurement
based rule (IOR, IMS) is vulnerable to attack by $$$'s. It also shows that
there is something seriously wrong with IMS until they take into account
pitching moment and LWL to displacement ratios (e.g., a boat built with an
interior that meets the letter of the rule, but is made out of plastic at half
the weight).
2) Something is amiss with the 40' class.
There is a huge difference in performance potential between boats that are 40'
in length. Last year, at BBR and PHRF-NE, there were 15-20 boats, all with
very similar ratings and all with very similar performance potential. This
year there are Tripp-40's, J-39's and tricked out 1-toners.
In light air and smooth water, it is possible for heavy, full interior boats
to compete with light boats that have most of their ballest centered in
the bilge. In heavy air and in chop, this is most unlikely.
Now, the problem for PHRF is: how to take into account the very diverse
performance potential of boats in different wind/sea conditions. Or for
IMS: how to take into account boats that either don't come close to the
rule (e.g., no interiors - a 1 tonner) or that have found obvious loop-holes
in the rule (e.g., light in the ends - Tripp-40, J-39)
This isn't a complaint per se that my rating is not fair. We didn't sail
to our potential in the NE's. But if we all sailed our best races, it would
have been very difficult to beat Wired or Potatoe.
One idea is to make the NE's a three day event with 5 or 6 races and one
throw out. Another idea is to make it a four day event over two weekends
with 7 or 8 races and a throw out. This increases the likelyhood of different
weather/sea conditions and would equalize the fleet.
I believe (from what I hear) that there will be some significant rating
changes in PHRF for the Tripp's and 1-toners. Or at the very least, they will
race with themselves, and not against the 40' fleet. Should be an interesting
Winter.
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845.671 | We're still a legal One Tonner! | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Aug 27 1991 18:19 | 34 |
| Chuck, don't lump us in with Wired and Potatoe! Amazing Potatoe has a
new, Tripp-like, bulb keel and no internal ballast. New keel is 11"
deeper as well. We had to fight to get their rating changed to 57 from
63 (its PHRF NE rating at Buzzards Bay)!
We rate 63 and the boat has for three years. The Taylors rate 63 and
we've developed a racing rivalry over this season that sees a very
level trade-off of who beat who. We and Scherherezade have raced a lot
this summer and we have beaten them only a couple of times more than
they us. Even then, in E-town we beat them 2 out of three, but they
beat us on total elapsed time! I think our rating is fair compared to
them and even to the 37R's. Full Tilt Boogie had a terrible regatta
finishing 16th or so. They are talking, much to our chagrin, about
making the same kind of modification that Amazing Potatoe made to their
keel. Bump Wilcox has assured us that they as well as Potatoe's rating
is by no means locked in at 57 with those changes!
We have no plans to modify anything. I believe that PHRF is fairer,
over time, than any strict measurement rule. We would rate pretty
badly under IMS. I think we'd be close to the Tripps. Not sure.
Now, over the long haul I think IMS is encouraging the right behavior.
Fast, light, fair (as in smooth lines), easily driven boats with nice
interiors. The Tripps are NOT skimpy on the interior. They are very
nicely done! Holly sole, wood table, thick cushions, great galley and
comfortable head. Interiors do not have to be heavy! Ours must weigh
as much. I we stick to IMS long enough, boats like mine will be out,
and fast, liveable boats will be in. The question is, will people put
up with it for the transition? Probably not.
Should IMS rate a heavy pig such that it, if well sailed, can have a
chance of beating a fresh out of the box flyer? I don't know.
Dave
|
845.672 | Clarification | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Aug 27 1991 18:27 | 17 |
| Two more things.
First, I didn't by any means imply that Yaquina is the heavy pig
extreme! Anybody who has raced against her would realize that, but in
re-reading my note it sounded like I was using Chuck's boat as that
example. No!
Secondly, we have been proposing that PHRF NE's go to a three day
format for three years at both the fall and spring PHRF Marblehead
meetings. We get a lot of reasons why it can't happen and no
satisfactory logic. A regatta of this stature absolutely should be a
three day format. Maybe you could help us out a bit at this year's
meeting...
That is all.
Dave
|
845.673 | A point has no dimensions | EPS::SAMUELSON | | Wed Aug 28 1991 10:26 | 49 |
| I don't think we're saying anything different here. Time marches on.
The 37R was the first semi-production IMS boat. For 3 years it was
clearly equal to (at least) the customs such as the Taylors (and still is
in a certain range of conditions). In smooth water and all but the lightest
of air, we are still slightly faster than the Taylor's and only slightly
slower than the Tripp's. The 37R is very heavy. I displace 15,700.
The Tripp's displace under 12,000. Wired added ballest to get her IMS
rating to 605 (the low limit for the 40' class). Yes, their interior is
nice, but it is light. Mine is all 1/2" and 3/4" marine ply verneir. Theirs
is nomex cored, etc. The 1 tonners weigh in at around 12,000 too.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about my rating (or anyone elses).
The points I'm trying to make are that:
There's a large difference in performance potential for the 40' boats
this year. This difference is amplified by differences in sea and wind
conditions.
IMS has failed to equalize this and has (as any measurement
base rule) left the door open for new design boats that optimize to the
rule at the expense of previous generation boats. This is what killed
IOR. The good IOR boats are still quite fast. Neither rule prohibits one
from building fast boats - its the ability to come up with a handicap
system that allows them to compete on a reasonably equal footing that is
the issue.
PHRF has never and can never take into account different weather
conditions. (IMS tried, but the pitching moment/weight in the ends
ommission has left a large barn door that Berry Carol has driven a truck
through). Rating a boat PHRF for one set of conditions and then racing
in a completely different set is also not productive.
So, rather than complaining about my or other's ratings, I'm just asking
the question (as so many have before me): how do we come up with a fair
rating system?
_________________
Now I know all you one-design folks will immediately come up with an answer.
One design would be great. However, I've chosen for a variety of reasons to
have a large yacht. That leaves a couple of choices for one design:
J-44 and J-35
No one in their right mind would buy a J-44. There isn't a J-35 "fleet"
north of Newport.
|
845.674 | | STEREO::HO | | Wed Aug 28 1991 11:37 | 33 |
|
>>>>> Should IMS rate a heavy pig such that it, if well sailed, can have a
>>>>> chance of beating a fresh out of the box flyer? I don't know.
It used to. Apparently no longer. Displacement was once rewarded, perhaps
unfairly so. There were some notable examples of heavier traditional boats
beating lighter racing oriented boats. And it wasn't unusual to find
handicaps reversed when boats switched from PHRF to IMS.
The rating bias seems to have flipped. The "liveable" interior issue is a
red herring. IMS just mandates the presence of a head and bunks. They're
not a measured attribute. But their weight is. So the rule currently
favors foam cell toilets and corragated cardboard bulkheads instead of
porcelan and marine ply. Which do you think will last longer?
In the decade or so of its widespread use, IMS has gone from one extreme to
the other. Since the range is now bounded maybe the rocket scientists can
start converging on that elusive happy medium. In the time it takes to do
this, the high profile designers who advertise their IMS rocket ships in
back pages of the USYRU mag can make a few bucks. I was surprised to see
those ads. Wasn't IMS the rule to which a boat could not be designed?
Multiple conditions vs. unique PHRF rating: Over the season it's supposed
to average out. Which means for a weekend regatta you can get creamed.
But was this really an issue for this regatta? Or was it a dubious rating
for an new boat. But 9 s/m between boats of comparable size and weight
seems like a good first guess. How much of Wired's success was attributable
to the exquisite wind sense of its skipper. Jack Slattery can really do
magic.
- gene
|
845.675 | This stuff makes my head hurt | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Aug 28 1991 12:24 | 22 |
| Gene, Jack is VERY, VERY good. But not that good. I agree with Chuck
that we are seeing a newly emerging delta in potential speed between
boats of like sizes (in this case 40 footers). How do we rate them?
In any weekend with a constant weather pattern, there is a chance that
the single PHRF rating will not measure fairly. Granted. So, the
question becomes IMS or One Design?
Seahorse Magazine tracks the rapidly spreading offshore one design
fleets in the U.K. and Europe. Sigmas, Figaros, and the new Beneteau
come to mind. J35's are getting bigger, too. I agree that a J44 would
make a great cruiser. 'Nuf said, there.
I don't know!!! We're in a real quandry. Are these newer, quicker,
IMS designs of the most recent generation going to ruin what resale
value we of relatively older boats have? Makes me want to take up
sport fishing.
Gene, how's the Etchells market?
Dave
|
845.676 | Asking the question, but want solutions | EPS::SAMUELSON | | Wed Aug 28 1991 12:35 | 36 |
| Wired was so fast in the prevailing conditions that anybody could have driven
her to victory. She was NEVER in a tactical situation. By the weather mark
of each race, she was perhaps 1/2 hour ahead of the fleet. It didn't take
a Jack to do that. In fact, Jack didn't do much driving (he said), he didn't
have to. They acknowledged that it was just ideal conditions for the boat
compared to the other 40's.
On the other hand, at the (infamous) Lipton Cup (winds 0-8 knts, glassy smooth
water), my "heavy" yacht roled Coalition and was only slightly slower than
Wired. After all, if you just take into consideration hull lines, any 40'
yacht is going to have pretty similar wetted surface (e.g., drag). Its only
when other factors (such as 75% of the mass within 10% of the center of
gravity) become important (e.g., lots of steep chop), that the IMS rule
breaks down completely.
Again, I'm not complaining about this weekend. In fact, we had a great time
this weekend. It was great racing! We beat Scherherazade three times,
Coalition twice, Taylor Ann twice, Full Tilt three times, came close to
Potatoe once - ended up 6th for the regatta in the worst possible conditions
for my boat out of 16-18 other boats. If the class consisted of boats that
rate between 60 and 69, Wired and Potatoe would have still been 1-2 in their
class. In the "level" 60's, it would have been Harrier, Coalition and us.
Bump knew he was taking a risk when he grouped all in a single class and
has acknowledged it was a mistake afterwords.
I'm just attempting to make the point that there are some serious flaws
showing up in both IMS and PHRF rating systems - either because of inequitable
ratings or inconsistencies/omissions in the rules.
And, by the way, Wired isn't the main offender - Rumours (Woodhouse's
frac Tripp-40) is much further to the edge. They left the boat at
11,500 lbs and got a PHRF rating of 52! The sail area for the frac and
masthead Tripp-40's is roughly the same. Then there's Collaboration, etc.
These are examples of the "vulnerability of any measurement based formula
to attack by $$$'s". I.E., IMS has failed completely to build a rule that
is: 1) dual purpose and 2) cannot be designed to. QED.
|
845.677 | Another tough call. | MILKWY::WAGNER | Scott | Wed Aug 28 1991 13:00 | 41 |
|
Agree to all in the last 5-6 notes-
But: PHRF is like democracy- it's the worst... except for everything
else. I've even got a problem with the J-24's in Newport; machining
marks below, winches moved- any rule can be bent. Further, we (HP PHRF)
has a Evelyn 32 which was formerly owned by Ben Hall ( of -spars) and
is made of Kevlar, e-glass, Nomex or klegecell... the deck is a
trampoline, the transom's waxpaper- yet she rates like the stock boat
from Scituate. Hmf.
On the other hand, mods, when reported, usually get (somewhat) dealt
with- in fact, big John even took a lead keel into account when he
thought it was steel. Mostly cuz it was wetted surface tho...
Anyhow, would time-on-time have helped anything at the NE's? I was
nursing Aventure's bent shaft/snapped strut/bunged Martec/etc and not
there- but I'd like to let this idea to live or die on its own merits,
soon, and find something else if it's just more useless math.
Another issue- what's everybody's feeling on location? Should the NE's
travel around like they used to, or be properly renamed Marblehead PHRF
Summer Regatta? That could add some Monte Carlo to the sea states...
Well, take heart in that the Tripp's rating will fall- altho
historically 9 sec/mi is an observed max... that wouldn't have changed
much, if what I heard is right...
I'd love to see wind strength & direction, sea state, etc count, but
you KNOW most RC's couldn't handle even a totally automatic weather
station- and you'd need them all over the course, right? Look at what's
been used lately- `averages' from other years!! Another unfortunate
coffin nail.
Lastly, Collins will tell you: PHRF was never intended for something
like a Tripp- it has a tough enough time with stock Pearson 30's.
Where's my measurer?
-Scott_wallowing_in_missed-race_self-pity
|
845.678 | | VERGA::FACHON | | Wed Aug 28 1991 14:20 | 24 |
| In talking with Doyle at the Corinthian, he mentioned
much the same about Wired -- anyone could have driven her,
although I guess Slattery likes to goad him because Robby
had no real success in a previous regatta when he was on
Wired. Don't know which one. But Slattery isn't infallable,
as he's the guy who -- years ago -- incited Bo's crew to mutiny if
if he or any other hired gun showed up on board. Jack consistently
took us the wrong way in the J35 regionals.
NE PHRF Championshp is a pompous name. The only way they could be
considered a real championship is if only the top three boats
from each area fleet were invited to a season's finale. There would be
real prestige and respectability in organizing the races that way.
And go three days, definitely. Add Admiral's Cup-style team
scoring, and I think the event would be a terrific draw!!! Just
need to define enough "areas" to ensure 20-boat fleets.
I think they'd do well to keep the regatta in Marblehead too, as that
seems to spread the major regattas out evenly.
Re "no J35 fleet north of Newport"
Buy one, and we'll match race the b-jesus out of you. ;)
|
845.679 | Slattery Steering Inc. | MILKWY::WAGNER | Scott | Thu Aug 29 1991 14:11 | 16 |
|
Jack's little brother Bobby is the usual helm on Wired. I don't know
what kind of deal who has with who, but all the Wireds kept a full
stock of crispy new Doyle products on board.
re the X-number of boats representing each fleet- remember 3 years ago?
There was a trophy, real pretty crystal, can't remember the name.
Anyway, it went to the fleet thet sent, I think, 3 boats x 4 or 5 YRUMB
splits, and was most successful. It died cuzza fleets like Scituate who
just could not muster the boats. Hingham Bay came close, but that
100-120 zone was pretty empty, save for a J-29, who went on vacation...
so it goes. Way before that, it was a standalone regatta, but they
figured the NE's needed pumping up of smaller boats. And worked, sorta.
Hey Mr. Bob B! Snap a masthead stick on, peel off the decals, stick on
`35' and matchrace that guy!! |8*}
|
845.680 | The Wagodacious Challenge ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Thu Aug 29 1991 14:28 | 12 |
| I'd be hard put to race those guys seriously ... honestly I wouldn't
know who to cheer for (besides, Bodacious IS a faster boat). But we
already have a match race ... after the regular race on the first day of
the JYC Fall regatta. This year it'll be the 3rd annual Wagodacious
Challenge. There's no trophy (unless you count the lingerie that the
Bo' crew usually leaves flying in Wags' rigging), but lots of food and
rum do get exchanged between the two boats after we raft up at the JYC.
Now THAT'S a proper yacht race ... ;^)
... Bob
|
845.681 | RE: Bob Slats | GIAMEM::TRAINOR | Anchored in my driveway... | Thu Aug 29 1991 15:44 | 7 |
| I used to race against Bob Slattery in college, in fact we got to be
pretty good friends. But, he wasn't known for his ability to race. He
personally earned Salem State its nickname Seldom Straight (one heck
of a partier, never left a party without someone's assistance, and
sometimes he just never left).
Charlie
|
845.682 | Torquay Regatta 1991 | CHEST::BARKER | | Fri Aug 30 1991 04:57 | 34 |
| Ive just returned from a three day party in Torquay, which was
occasionally interrupted with some racing.
All three days were hot & sunny, with the wind varying from nothing to
15 knots. England's summer has arrived at last !. Torbay is one of the
best areas on the south coast for sailing, but the port of Torquay is
horribly touristy, with endless tatty pubs, discos, gift shops and
amusement arcades. The Yotties all stuck together, with the Royal
Torquay Yacht Club putting on entertainment, food and drink every
night, to save us having to go out into the town. Best of all they
set up a bar within a boatlength of where we tied the boat up !
A crop of American built boats made their mark on the regatta, with 2
J-39s ( one called YES! - black with luminous green trim, kites and
crew uniform, the other called Jackdaw, which was completely white -
even its Kevlar sails were white ! ) and a Tripp 40 called Outstripper
which is reputed to be a bit of a works boat, with several Americans on
board. The J's had the better of it when the wind was light, the Tripp
was better in the heavy. There was also a Catalina 37, which, with its
big wheel, masthead rig and flush deck looked very strange to English
eyes. In all about 70 boats competed in three classes.
On Quokka we showed some good boat speed, but didn't seem to be able to
point the boat in the right direction, so we had to be content with
12th out of 32 in class 2. One boat, a slow old Stephen Jones 50
footer, tried to distract us by using a topless female kite trimmer,
but we sailed straight past them to windward, so I guess it was
distracting their crew more.
I'll be back there next year.
Chris
|
845.683 | | TUNER::HO | | Fri Aug 30 1991 10:30 | 7 |
| Chris:
Since Quokka is a one-tonner and the Tripp 40 and J-39 are IMS rocket
ships, did you encounter the same rating vs. true speed disparities
that seem to be inciting so much controversy on this side of the pond?
- gene
|
845.684 | | RDGE31::BARKERC | I've got those Simplification blues.... | Mon Sep 02 1991 05:01 | 52 |
| We weren't racing under IMS for Torquay, but under Channel Handicap
(CHS). This is a simpler rule than IMS or IOR, with penalties for
light displacement, lightweight rigs and other speed inducing
characteristics. It has two other main features, firstly, it is secret,
so it is difficult to build to, and secondly, the measurers can apply
a mysterious 'factor X' which penalises boats which have fast
characteritics ( e.g. wide sterns, low freeboards ) which aren't
actually captured in the measurements.
This means that IMS rockets, which tend to be lighter than IOR boats,
do get a worse rating, and, depending on conditions, can be beaten.
Having said all that, the 2 J's and the Tripp had very good crews in
Torquay, and did well, on the whole. Outstripper had a couple of very
serious looking Americans on board, and is basically a 'works' boat and
Yes! was helmed by a top International 14 sailor. Incedentally ,there
is a Tripp 36 doing the circuit at the moment, with an all female crew,
( called Stripper ), who are using it as a training vessel for a 1993
Admirals cup campaign.
IMS hasn't really taken off over here for a number of reasons. Firstly,
CHS suits most peoples sailing. Everybody, except the real hot-shots,
find it quite adequate and it is very cheap compared to IOR or IMS
measurement. Secondly IOR hasn't died completely, and there are enough
boats around to provide some decent competition in the Solent area, and
thirdly, IMS was meant to be a rule you can't design to, but the
designers are managing to do just that.
There is a fourth reason, and that is called 'Sunstone'. This is a 1965
S&S 35 footer, heavily built of wood, which is very well equipped and
well sailed by the owners, who also live aboard ( it has a stove in
the saloon ). Under IOR, she was unbeatable in the heavy winds, pretty
good in the medium stuff, but came unstuck in the light. This continued
when CHS was introduced, but when she was IMS measured, the wonderful
program predicted that she would be seriously slow in the light, so
adjusted the light weather rating accordingly. This now means that she
can win in all conditions. Owners of stripped out eggshells are
understandably frustrated.
I think that IMS will die quietly over here, but until there is a
decent alternative to IOR ( IOR mark IV ?? ) it will probably continue.
Having seen the J's and the Tripp, I think that they represent a healthy
direction to be moving, with simple layouts, easily driven hulls and a
good all-round performance. I prefer this approach to the ultralight,
semi-planing hulls that have been appearing in Europe recently. These
downwind-only machines are too dangerous to race offshore, and do not
have the upwind perforance necessary to race inshore, so the only
thrill the crews get is the occasional 25 knot surf, once or twice a
year when the conditions are exactly right.
Chris.
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845.685 | | CHEST::BARKER | | Wed Sep 04 1991 08:53 | 13 |
| One little incident that happened in Torquay is worthy of recounting.
On Racy Lady - a heavy old masthead IOR 50 footer - the crew went for
a peel and hoisted a new spinnaker. All was going well until the
foredeck hand went to trip the old kite, but tripped the new one by
mistake. This mistake was then compounded by the halyard man, who
didn't realise the mistake, so dumped the halyard of the old kite as
he was meant to.
They ended up with two very wet kites and a lot of red faces.
Chris.
|
845.686 | "several" questions | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Sep 04 1991 09:43 | 19 |
| Chris, two questions:
First, what is the time allowance on, say a ten mile course, between
Quokka and a Tripp 40 or J 39? Or do you do time on time? Either way.
Second, I see Fever listed in the back of Seahorse. I thought Quokka
was the old Fever. What gives? Is this a newer Fever I see listed?
Older Fever?
Fever is a J/N 40 right? There's one here of the same vintage named
Full Tilt Boogie. They are going to modify with a deeper keel designed
by Nivelt with a bulb on the bottom and get rid of the internal
ballast. Another tonner did the same thing last winter and is cleaning
up. I assume Quokka is a legal one tonner. Am I right? How many crew
do you normally sail with?
Okay, so I had more than two questions. Thanks!
Dave
|
845.687 | | CHEST::BARKER | | Wed Sep 04 1991 12:41 | 38 |
| > First, what is the time allowance on, say a ten mile course, between
> Quokka and a Tripp 40 or J 39? Or do you do time on time? Either way.
Sorry, I don't have the details on me, I will see what I can dig
out. CHS quotes a Time Multiplication Factor (TMF) as its final
result, so its time-on-time.
> Second, I see Fever listed in the back of Seahorse. I thought Quokka
> was the old Fever. What gives? Is this a newer Fever I see listed?
> Older Fever?
No, it's the same one. I guess that the old owner has just
forgotten to take the advert out. It took a long time to sell,
so perhaps he had a block placement for it.
> Fever is a J/N 40 right? There's one here of the same vintage named
> Full Tilt Boogie. They are going to modify with a deeper keel designed
> by Nivelt with a bulb on the bottom and get rid of the internal
> ballast. Another tonner did the same thing last winter and is cleaning
> up. I assume Quokka is a legal one tonner. Am I right? How many crew
> do you normally sail with?
Yes, Quokka is a J/N 40, but it no longer has a valid IOR cerificate.
I think that the previous owner removed most of the internal
ballast, but the new ones are thinking of putting it back, on the
bottom of the keel also. I don't think they have got as far as
getting plans drawn yet though. Offshore we sail with 10, inshore
with 12, if we can find them !. The sails won't measure under IOR
now either. The #3 & #4 have battens longer than IOR allows, and
the CHS kites are bigger for a given pole length, so would be
penalised too. These bigger kites give a huge advantage in light
winds - Quokka overtook the Japanese Admirals cup one-tonner during
the Fastnet !. Offshore we sail with 10, inshore with up to 12,
if we can find them !.
Chris
|
845.688 | Jubilee | VERGA::FACHON | | Mon Sep 09 1991 11:58 | 20 |
| Many thanks to Bob B and the WAGS crew for the classiest
"gotcha" yet in our friendly rivalry. Last weekend, for the Jubilee
regatta, they snuck over to Bo in the wee hours and bedizened
our bow pulpit with a lacey, glitter encrusted, black brassier,
held forth by two sculpted styrofoam spheres. This was "wired"
in place. And on both sides of the boom we discovered some racing
stripes -- in WAGS yellow, orange, and red -- flanking the words,
"Bo Knows Ta Tas."
We are truly flattered, and intend to keep the arrangement for at
least the rest of the season, and we are humbled, as we've been
one-upped in a fashion that leaves us stymied for a suitable
response. Once again, WAGS proves indomitable!!!
The Jubilee regatta was once again a triumph, with wind, weather,
and cheap drinks conspiring to take the sting out of the approaching
end of the summer. And we managed to show off our decorations to
most of the fleet...
;)
|
845.689 | another gorgeous racing week-end ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Mon Sep 09 1991 12:20 | 33 |
| Yup, once again the JYC Fall Regatta was blessed with perfect sailing
weather, well-run races, and generally fine times. We bagged the
Wagodacious race after the regular race, but more than made up for it
in food and alcohol consumption after the two boats rafted up at our
mooring.
Saturday's race was a five-leg affair that Mother Nature helped turn
into a basic reach-around. Wags was in A-fleet, and we got soundly
hammered as we were unable to keep up with the big boys. But we were
generally pleased with our efforts to make the boat go, so the results
were rather secondary. With our regular tactician not there, I got to
call tactics ... and only screwed up a couple of times ... ;^)
Sunday's race was a triangle, plus windward-leeward legs ... somewhat
like a Gold Cup in reverse. There were several boats who were
unfamiliar with the reciprocal rule and rounded the windward and
leeward marks the wrong way. Ironically, I was asked to sit on the
protest committee, which is kind of funny considering my attitude about
protests, but it was definitely a learning experience. Most of the
protests were easy ... one barging incident in "B" fleet, two protests
for people cutting inside a foul area, and one involving luffing rights
after the start. Overall a well-spent 1.5 hours, considering the
intensity with which you have to read and interpret the rules when
there's two or more skippers in the room each arguing that they are
right and expecting you to agree with them. Fortunately, the other
three guys in the room were old hands at protest committee work.
Of course, the highlight of the week-end was the custom graphics we
applied to Bodacious ... ;^) I only wish I could've been aboard when
they removed the sail cover ... ;^)
... Bob
|
845.690 | BYC Hodder race | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Sep 16 1991 14:15 | 31 |
| Kudos to the Boston YC for a great course on Saturday for their Hodder
Race! Olympic (triangle, windward, leeward, windward) with 3 mile
weather legs. Oscillating wind made for fun tactics and the wind
strength between 11 and 13 knots was perfect.
We came off the line after a couple of aggravating postponements
looking for a shift to the left. Well, the postponements threw us off
so the wind started going to the right again. We tacked over onto a
headed tack to get over to the right and took Bodacious' stern because
we thought the wind would go even further right before it oscillated
back to the left. We tacked back onto starboard and took even more
lift. When Bo tacked back onto port we crossed in front of them and
continued to the left side now because the wind was timed to go back
that way. It did, and even more than we thought it would. We rounded
the first mark 20 seconds behind Loose Goose, the J44.
The reaches were uneventful except for the takedown at the leeward
mark. We didn't blow the halyard fast enough and when we did the guy
had been eased already. Ooops! Chute in the water, slowly filling and
the afterguy was let to run before we blew the chute up. Barely got it
in before it destroyed itself. I'm sure we made a heck of a sight for
the rest of the fleet!
Next three legs we played conservative middle of the course taking
shifts and doing a loose cover on Claddaugh. We crossed four minutes
behind the Goose (she owed us 10 plus) and easily saved our time on the
other eight boats in our fleet. Good day!
Manchester next week and hopefully a bigger fleet!
Dave
|
845.691 | E-22: no monopoly on virtue | ELWOOD::KEENAN | | Mon Sep 23 1991 17:58 | 11 |
| I crewed for Gene Ho this weekend in the E-22 North Americans.
I was looking forward to the friendly and courteous competition
that the E class is famous for. I was disappointed.
Endless general recalls, bumping at the start (we were nearly T-boned),
and loads of bullsh!t blurted out to confuse the rules. Even Gene
became a seething animal at the starts, he pulled off a few bump and
run moves. After all, TOUCHE' means "to touch" in French.
|
845.692 | Manchester stunk | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Sep 24 1991 09:55 | 60 |
| The Manchester Fall series was not our best showing. Saturday we had
the best and ballsiest start of the A fleet. Pin end, shutting out two
other boats and moving well. The wind on Saturday was shifting 30
degrees and more every few minutes. Had to ignore "small" shifts of 15
degrees or less if you didn't want to spend the whole day tacking.
We got to the windward in a virtual tie with Scherherezade and Wired.
The reaching leg we held our own and jibed with those two onto the next
reaching leg. We had our half oz. chute up, though and couldn't hold
as high as the others. We doused the chute and let them climb high of
the rhumb line. We thought we were okay until new wind came and Wired
and Scherherezade were in it. We were less than 100 yards to leeward,
could see it, but couldn't get to it! They motored out and we never
caught them again ;^(.
To add insult, the boats behind us brought new wind again with them on
the downwind leg, letting them catch us. On the final windward leg we
caught a 30 degree shift totally out of phase and let Yaquina save
their time on us. Saturday's results: Scherherzade, Wired, Loose
Goose, Yaquina, Harrier, and a bunch of others behind us. We were NOT
happy with a fifth!
Sunday we were out for revenge. At the start we got into a very bad
position and were over the line with twenty seconds to go and not a
damn thing to be done about it except tack onto port and get the hell
out of there! Claddagh pinched up hard to force a port/starboard
situation and made a big show of ducking us. They protested, but we
decided to continue racing because they had definitely changed course
in order to not allow us to keep clear. We even had an appeal that
exactly matched the situation. However, we had no witnesses that they
had, indeed, pinched up after we were clear across.
We went back to the starting line, cleared, and started racing. We got
to the windward mark right on Scherherezade's stern and in front of
Wired. By the wing mark we were stil right behind Scherherezade, but
Wired had passed us. They are fast!!! Next reaching leg about the
same. On the second windward leg we were doing fine when we began to
slow down and not point very high. By slow I mean a knot below
targets. We tried everything. Tempers were building. Finally we
fealt a vibrating in the hull. We snagged something! Damn! Couldn't
see it. Tacked, and about thirty seconds later the boat accelerated
back to targets and above as if to say "see, I can do it".Whatever it
was came off, but not before Claddagh and Yaquina were nipping at our
heels again.
No change on the last downwind leg. One more upwind leg to put time
between us and Claddagh and Yaquina. this time everything worked, we
caught shifts, and finished third. Now all we had to do was win the
protest! The third would put us third for the series. An ugly third,
but a third none the less.
As expected, Claddagh denied hardening up to prevent us from keeping
clear. The committee struggled for a bit and then tossed us. Oh well.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes you get rained out,
but you have to dress for them all.
Dave
P.S. Where was Bo???
|
845.693 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Tue Sep 24 1991 11:24 | 40 |
| Saturday's race was a pure crapshoot. Winds were so fluky it was a
matter of being in the right place at the right time. How fluky, you
might ask ... well it's the first time I've ever done an Olympic course
and had upwind work on every leg !!!
Those shifts Dave mentioned were quite significant. Five minutes into
the race we were many boatlengths in front of everyone but Loose Goose,
thanks to a 40 degree shift that found us on the favorable side of the
course. Ten minutes later we were next to last, as the wind shifted
again and this time we were on the wrong side of it. By the time we
rounded the windward mark there were two distinct "packs" in A-fleet.
The first four boats ... Loose Goose, Harrier, Wired, and Sherherazade
... were at least a half-mile in front of the back four ... Wags,
Yaquina, Claddagh, and Whirlwind. Wags didn't do so well, we fell into
a hole and stayed in it longer than Claddagh and Whirlwind, who also
found it. Yaquina missed it and sailed off to catch up to the front
pack, who were also experiencing some wind difficulties about a mile in
front of us. We finished next to last, beating only Whirlwind.
Dave, you sure we were at the same race on Sunday? There was a third
boat involved in your little starting incident ... a J/36 with red,
orange, and yellow stripes on the hull ... ;^) Claddagh did indeed
head up as you said. They had to ... we were exercising our luffing
rights on them, trying to push them over early. We owed them a little
payback from the New Englands, after all. Suddenly you were cutting
across her bow on port. But she'd been steadily heading up before you
ever got there and was nearly head to wind by the time they hailed you.
Frankly, you should have asked someone on Wags to go to your protest.
Claddagh didn't bear off to avoid you. They couldn't, 'cause we were
right there and they'd have hit us if she had. Claddagh made a lot
of noise, and protested you, but I didn't see that they had a case. If
you weren't clear, they would have hit either you or us ... they simply
had no place to go without tacking, which obviously did not happen.
Oh well, them's the breaks. You guys have had a very successful season
with Harrier anyway. And there's always the Last Race this Sunday ...
... Bob
|
845.694 | Thanks anyway! | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Tue Sep 24 1991 14:58 | 8 |
| Bob, we definitely should have asked you guys to be witness! We told
the committee that it wasn't possible for them to have bore off without
heading up first because of exactly what you said! But, alas, it was
our word against theirs.
Protest not withstanding, we did not have a great regatta.
Dave
|
845.695 | Big boats make louder noises | EPS::SAMUELSON | | Thu Sep 26 1991 13:31 | 20 |
| Re: Protest
Dave:
I didn't really see what happened with Cladaugh after Harrier tacked onto
port. However, in general:
There is no proper course before the start. I think its Dave Perrey who
mentions one should anticipate a starboard tacker to head up / bear
away when she is approaching the line to start (after starting is a entirely
different story). However, if there's contact (resulting in serious damage)
and the privileged yacht could have avoided the contact by bearing away,
then the privileged yacht is also in the wrong for not doing so (e.g.,
she should bear away to avoid contact and then protest). In either case
the burdened yacht is in big trouble.
We usually try to avoid Cladaugh whenever we can, especially at the start.
Anyway, it was interesting racing. We all had opportunities to do
better / do worse than we did.
|
845.696 | We shouldn't have been there, but... | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Sep 26 1991 14:58 | 17 |
| Chuck, you're right about there being no proper course before the
start. However, and this is crucial, we were SO FAR over the line that
we had been sailing on the wrong side for 30 seconds or so. When
Claddagh altered course, she had been over the line by at least two
boat lengths.
We also try to stay out of trouble in general and with Claddagh in
specific. That big ol' aluminum bow would slice through us like a hot
knife through butter!
This weekend is girlfriends/wives and beer aboard for Jubilee's famous
"Last Race". Hope the wind blows so we can use those extra bodies for
ballast!
Save your quarters for those post-race drinks at Jubilee.
Dave
|
845.697 | BYC Wednesday Night Series Gripes | STAR::PROULX | | Sun Sep 29 1991 21:49 | 22 |
| Does anyone have any thoughts on the BYC Wednesday Series this year?
Seems to me, and others I've talked to, that it left something to be
desired: Specifically, very short races, especially for the small
boats, mediocre trophies (especially considering American Airlines'
participation) and a quick trigger finger (or whatever fires that
cannon) when it comes to abandoning races for lack of wind. How many
times did we SAIL back to our mooring after an abandonment?
The absolute worst was the cancellation of the last scheduled race at
5:00 with the committee boat alongside the BYC float. They talked about
no wind and rain. At the time we were sailing out of the harbor. We
continued over to Salem and then sailed back to Marbhlehead, sailing up
to out mooring at over five knots, after enjoying a lovely sunset and
NO rain. They could have run s race that night with no problems. Our
entire crew had driven 1-1/2 hours to get down there and felt they at
least owed us the courtesy to drive out and see what the weather was
really like.
Are enough people unhappy with how things have been going on Wednesdays
to try to get them to change some things? Comments?
- Larry Proulx (Seaductress, Class Delta)
|
845.698 | BYC Weds vs. JYC Thurs | STAR::PROULX | | Sun Sep 29 1991 21:56 | 14 |
| As sort of a continuation of the last reply, does anyone have any
experience/comments re: JYC's Thursday night races? Specifically, how
does their time-on-time system work? They seem to depend on a system
of volunteer committee boats involving a competitor sitting out the
race and serving as the committee. Is the end result a reasonably
professionally-run event?
The BYC Wednesday series, for all the other failings I complained about
in the previous entry, is well run and predictable, but if they don't
do a few things differently next year I would give serious
consideration to jumping ship to JYC. I would appreciate any comments
anyone mihgt have regarding their program.
- Larry Proulx
|
845.699 | try it, you might like it ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Mon Sep 30 1991 21:38 | 59 |
| Hi Larry ...
I've been doing the Thursday night races since about 1982 on Wags. The
format for the race is a lot more laid back than the Wednesday night
races, but from what you said we got in more racing than our Wednesday
night counterparts ... no races were cancelled this season.
The Thursday night series consists of 20 races, split up into two
series of 10 races each ... best 6 races out of 10 count. They start
at 6:30, from Curtis Point near the Jubilee YC. There is a large
amount of participation by boats that typically don't do the more
serious racing events ... and some participation by those who do.
As you noted, each week the races are run by a volunteer committee
boat. There's a sign-up sheet at the JYC. So typically, each boat
serves one week as the race committee. Obviously, since this is a
volunteer situation, some races are more professionally run than
others. However, there haven't been any major screw-ups or complaints
yet ... no more so than I've seen from some so-called professional race
committees.
We don't set race courses the way they do on Wednesday night either.
There are three set courses ... designated A, B, and C. A-course is
from the start to Power's (between Misery and Baker's Islands) to Eagle
Island, and to the finish line at Hospital Point (about 6.2 miles).
B-course is the reverse of A. C-course is a short course (for light
air nights) and is only about 3 miles.
There are six predefined starting sequences. The start you get on any
given night depends on wind velocity and direction. So the committee
is somewhat limited by those choices ... but they've proven to be
adequate so far. So for example, on a night with moderate southwest
winds, you might get Start 4, B-course ... which gives you a short
beat, short reach (end of starting sequence), long beat, long run,
long close-reach ("long" in this case being 1.5 to 2 miles).
I can't really tell you much about the time-on-time system. It's
explained in the book, but I haven't taken the time or effort to figure
it all out. But basically, it favors slower boats ... particularly in
a dying breeze. This rule has only been implemented for the past two
seasons. Another rule implemented this season is that if you win, your
rating gets knocked by 18 seconds per mile for the following week. If
you win again it gets knocked another 9 seconds per mile. If you don't
win you get 9 seconds per mile back. This was implemented to try to
spread the wins around a bit (remember, most of these folks aren't
racers, though many are very good sailors).
The race is usually over by 9 PM, then everybody heads back to the YC
for cheap drinks and tall tales. Individual race trophies are engraved
beer mugs. Series trophies are *very* nice plaques with the outline of
the winning boat on it ... we've got a nice collection of them, as Wags
has won seven out of the last eight series in A-fleet (that said, we'll
probably lose this time around).
In general it's a lot more laid-back than the Wednesday night races.
For more details, call the Jubilee YC at 922-9611.
... Bob
|
845.700 | Season Wrap-up | VERGA::FACHON | | Wed Oct 02 1991 14:21 | 38 |
| I hope this was a watershed year for Bodacious. After a long
hiatus from one-design racing -- due to some rediculous rules about
upgrading older boats -- we returned to that forum in Newport at
the NOODS. And of all the racing we did this year -- save for the
Berringer antics -- that regatta was the most satisfying. The close-aboard
tactics were challenging and thrilling -- all the way around the
course -- and we liked knowing where we stood without having to
extrapolate from a scratch sheet. Sure, we only placed in the
middle of the pack, but we learned we have the talent to improve. All
aboard were in agreement that the NOODS were our season's highlight,
and the thinking now is to do a few major one-design regattas and
use the occaisional local race to tune up.
As for Marblehead PHRF, this season was so predictable as to seem
like an old movie re-run. Some new faces, but a lot of old ones
and the same old gripes. We began the season with high hopes, but
they quickly faded as the old patterns re-emerged, and in turn we
got sloppy and angry. We had some serious temper problems that
threatened to break up a crew that's been together for 4 years.
That's serious. But it's what we get for trying to beat our rating.
I'm still utterly bemused by the notion that at 72, a J35 is closer
in rating to a boat like Harrier (63) than to a J36 (84), the 35's older
and very similar stablemate. And then there's Claddagh at 75! But at
least they've been amicable adversaries this year, even inviting Jon
out for a race when Bo was off-duty. And we've had a terrific time
with the guys and gals on WAGS and Harrier (guys only ;)), so the
socializing has been better than in any year past, but the edge is
gone as far as racing PHRF is concerned.
I, for one, expect to do a *lot* less racing next year -- but what I
"do do" will be aimed at improving our one-design skills -- and a lot more
cruising. My roots are in cruising, and having just returned from a
week of crusing the San Juan Islands in the Pacific northwest, I find
my roots are reasserting themselves...
Cheers to all,
Dean
|
845.701 | Local racing is getting boring | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Oct 02 1991 16:57 | 39 |
| The Last Race was put on by Jubilee last Sunday. We went with a
"small" coed crew of 16! Wind blew and we had a good time. Our
afterguy blew up on the reaching leg, much to the surprise of some of
our less experienced visitors. With 16 bodies on board it took us a
long time to remedy that situation. We crossed the line second behind
Loose Goose and in front of Claddagh.
We knew Claddagh got us by a few seconds, but calculated that Goose
lost to us by 30 seconds to a minute. Hard to tell exactly when she
crossed. Well, at the award ceremony Loose Goose was declared the
winner! It should have been Claddagh, then us. The committee stood
its ground and we had no hard evidence to prove them wrong even though
Loose Goose openly admitted some sort of discrepency. The Claddagh
boys went wild. Poor behavior. Oh well.
We also did not sail many local races this year. We sought and found
larger regattas where the competition was nearer to level rating
racing. The result was much improved crew work and boat handling as
well as tactics. Marblehead PHRF is getting to the point where if you
know the wind speed, you know who will win. Yawn.
Our racing program will include even less local racing next year.
Probably no more than six major regattas through out the season. We
did six this year and that was about enough! I still want to cruise
this beast. It will be like camping out to an extent, but what the
heck.
We are very pleased with Harrier. We are still very much on the
learning curve with her and feel there is lots of upside to go yet.
That is what keeps us coming back. We still do not optimize all of the
many sail shape controls for all conditions. Lots to learn. Something
to look forward to next year!
I always get a little sad at this time of year. This year I'm trying
to get a ride during Key West to break up the off season. The new
owner of Wildside lives in St. Petersburg and wants us to come down to
sail with him as well. Might be fun.
Dave
|
845.702 | More BiffBangBoom Required. | MILKWY::WAGNER | Scott | Thu Oct 03 1991 12:34 | 24 |
|
Can't do much about ratings/etc, but:
Down in HB PHRF I'm seeing too much `spreading thin' of the races.
For instance, there was a race every weekend in September. ONE per
weekend. Keeping constant crew is nearly impossible.
Solution: 2 day regattas. More intensity, more work, but more fun.
And some time inbetween to do what most of these boats are made for;
coastal cruising. I'm not hauling a oven, waterheater etc. just to
`handicap' the downwind speed!
Observe the most popular races (attendance wise); Chapman, JFK, New
Englands... that's what I'm going to push for. We're using the people
and the clubs, just not directing the energy as well as we should.
There's been too much fear of `stepping on toes' by scheduling. Well if
we force people to choose, so be it. This year, they've voted with
their feet. Attendance is down everywhere. It's up to the officers to
pull the competitors back. (Which side of the fence will Mr. L. Goose
fall on...?)
Thanks for the loan of the soap box.
Mr. Interlocutor Jr.
|
845.703 | Summer is on the way | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Mon Oct 07 1991 00:29 | 67 |
|
Hi Guys,
Well spring has sprung in New Zealand although looking out the window
it would've been hard to quess and we are gearing up for the summer season.
The maintenance has been done between the winter and spring series,bottom
painted and is smooth,rudder bearings replaced,desil motor serviced.
Over the last 2 weekends we have being competing in the Steinlager spring
Regatta.This traditionaly has being a series of 30-40 mile harbour courses
with one olympic type course, held over 2 weekends it is also a heavy air
series as it blows this time of the year.Faced with falling numbers the format
was changed to 2 days of fleet sprint racing 4 races/day over either windward/
leeward twice around or triangle w/l beat.They also dropped the PHRF fleets and
made it one design,choosing the 5 most popular classes in Auckland.So on this
short course there where 5 divisions racing from 30ft-38.Before it started we
where a little worried about congestion at marks.As it turned out there was no
coming together of the fleets,lots of coming together within the divisons as
the racing was tight and very exciting,tactics being important and with that
many corners crew work played a major part.Our division was the biggest with
16 entries and we started first,the major competion being well known to us
and there where a few "ring-ins" on crews as there was no other racing.There
was a severe coming together of the owners of Sobstads and Norths sail lofts.
Norths where on starboard.Well as to the racing. after day 1 we where in a safe
3rd overall after starting badly with 11 after infringing and doing the 720.So
it was 11,4,3,2. Improving with very race.The protests where heard during the
week with "First Class" Norths boat getting redress for the first day.They
crashed in the first race and where awarded 5th,the next 3 races points would
be an average of their results on the final day.So our safe 3rd wasn't so safe
and when they won the first race,we where 4th after giving a way 2nd all our
worse nightmares started to come true.The next 2 races were horror show with
and we didn't sail as well as we can,nerves where getting frayed especially
when they finished the next race just in front of us after they layed the boat
end of the finish which was a tad closer. Then we had another problem,keeping
them under wraps the 4th placed boat at the start of the day put together 2
good races with a 2 and 1. So with the last race to sail we worked out that
we had to beat Flash Gordon with at least a boat between us and as for First
Class we where really only guessing. We finished 3rd in the race we First Class
2 places behind us and Flash Gordon 3 places.After dropping 2 races we finished
3rd on 42.5 points,First Class 44, Flash on 45.5.The winner had his regular
crew with 2nd having a few "ring-ins" mainly from Norths.The crew who like to
call themselves "Frontier Land" only screwed up one set that being the last
hoist of the series,the cockpit "Fanasty Land" made a few bad calls the
worse was going from 2nd to 4th on the last beat of the 5th race.
Overall this kind of racing is a lot of fun,much better than sitting
on the rail in 30kts of cold southerly beating our brains out.
The other good thing was the sponsor,Steinlager,they make beer. The bar
was selling it at $NZ1.00 for 2 cans the first weekend,they doubled the price
for the last day.
Fleets in NZ are down on previous years with certain events/series
still strongly supported.For us this is the series we just completed (16
boats),Our national Champs(30 Boats),the winter series,every 2nd sunday may-aug
(20 boats).Mid-week summer nights is also hugely popular in Auckland.
I dont know a lot about handicap racing,as I'm not involved in a lot of
it.But the same agruements over how much time each boat gives another rages
forever here in yacht clubs.I've come to the conclusion that they handicap
the people sailing the boat not the potential of the hardware,this seems to be
the case in NZ as whenever we race PHRF at our club we give time to others with
the same design. But we did get line in all but 1 race last summer in B
division.
Regards Revel.
P.S. Are you interested in the 2 campaigns NZ is going to mount for the next
whitbread. One was announced last Monday.
The other is coming in November and is being put together by the skipper of
First Class who is local to our yacht club whose flag he will sail under.
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845.704 | Approaching the finish line | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Fri Oct 11 1991 12:16 | 14 |
| Since I started this note, I couldn't think of a more appropriate place
to put this. I have resigned my position effective October 23. I'll
be going to work with Lotus Development in Cambridge. That stuff about
being walked to the front door by security didn't happen. I was kind
of looking forward to it ;^)
At any rate, one of the things I will miss the most about DEC is this
notes file. I've met great people through it and received solid advice
from it. I'll miss you all. Any controversial stuff you want to put
in the notes, do it before I leave so I can meekly present my position.
Thanks to all, especially our favorite moderator, Alan.
Dave
|
845.705 | | MSCSSE::BERENS | Alan Berens | Fri Oct 11 1991 14:29 | 7 |
| re .704:
Thank you, too, Dave, for your thoughtful and helpful contributions to
SAILING over the years. I'm sorry that you're leaving. Enjoy life, and
go cruising. Perhaps we'll meet in Tahiti someday.
Alan
|
845.706 | | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Fri Oct 11 1991 16:09 | 6 |
| Good luck Dave. Gonna miss "disagreeing" with you in here. But
we'll still see each other out on the water, I'm sure ... and at the
bar after the JYC races.
... Bob
|
845.707 | Navigators Nightmare. | CRATE::BARKER | Now @NEW, ex. RYO,UCG,SBP,RES & REO | Mon Oct 14 1991 06:04 | 52 |
| A few years ago now, the JOG decided that the navigators live had
become too easy, so they started the end-of-season 'Navigators
Nightmare' race.
The course is star shaped, consisting of one central bouy, one down
the west Solent, one down the east and one up Southampton water. All
three legs are very tidal, each leg being about 1 hour in each
direction.
The two twists are that...
a) you can do the three legs of the star ( i.e. the central bouy to
one of the legs ) in any order you like and...
b) you can start at whatever time you like. ( actually on each half
hour, from 7.30 to 11.00. Boats over early are considered to
have started on the previous start. Best corrected time wins.
The navigators has to balance all the factors ( i.e. actual wind,
forecast wind, tide flows and times of change, how early you can
persuade the crew to get out of bed etc. ) to decide on a starting
time, and a sequence to sail.
One further problem is that all bouys must be rounded to port, even
if that means looping them. This can mean that the central mark, that
would have been a gybe mark, becomes a tack-the-kite mark, which is not
something that often has to be done in offshore racing.
This year one boat perfected the technique by dropping the kite onto
the foredeck, sitting on it as the boat completed the tack under main
only and hoisting it back up again. Any other ideas on how you can do
this ?
On Olivia Anne, we seemed to get things about right, and finished 3rd,
but the boat that won started 2 hours later, and sailed the course in
a completely different order. It was nice to beat Quokka, who sailed
the same course/time as us, but ran into a big hole.
This weekend also saw the start of the Hamble River Autumn series,
which always attracts huge entries ( 200 boats + ) and was sailed in
bright October Sunshine. Quokka were not too upset by Saturdays beating
to allow me on board, which is a good job, because there were only 7
of us, which is barely enough, and would have been a real problem if it
was windy. Unfortunately, we didn't see a last minute course change, so
ended up sailing further than necessary.
This series continues for the next 8 weekends ( up to 1st Decemer ! )
with 5 to count, races about 3 hours in length. More news on this
later.
Chris.
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845.708 | Good Luck | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Tue Oct 15 1991 18:59 | 9 |
| RE: 704
Dave I to wish you well in the future I've enjoyed reading your
accounts of the racing up there and the opinions expressed. I'm sure
we'll hear of further expliots by Harrier assuming you dont go
cruising.
Well if you get to New Zealand (maybe to watch us defend the cup in
1996) drop by the BBYC.
Cheers Revel.
|
845.709 | fair winds, or at least predictable winds. | ICS::R_GREEN | Ron Green 223-8956 | Wed Oct 16 1991 11:32 | 11 |
| Dave -
best wishes in your new efforts. Curious, though. Is JAZZ named after
a product developed by your new company? Any possible racing
antagonisms going to be carried into the new job?? ;-)
Going to miss your "round the bouys" thrill stories....
ron
|
845.710 | Thanks and "leeward gates" | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Oct 16 1991 11:58 | 14 |
| Ron, we don't worry too much about JAZZ. There's a short rig Express
37 that rates the same as the tall rig, JAZZ, and they even beat JAZZ
consistently!
Revel, hearing about NZ sailing has been fun! I believe NZ is way
ahead in the sort of sailing the rest of the world will be coming to.
On another subject, I read in Sailing World about the adoption of
"leeward gates" in racing courses. This is simply two leeward marks
instead of just one. You have to sail between them and may round the
left side of the gate to port OR the right side of the gate to
starboard, your choice! Anyone have any experience on this??
Dave
|
845.711 | Good Luck Dave.... | AKO539::KALINOWSKI | | Wed Oct 16 1991 14:02 | 16 |
| re .709
Hummmm, I was watching NESN Monday night and they had the Admility Cup
from England on. One of things I noticed (other than those guys are
crazy the way they push things in heavy wind and seas) is that a lot
of the boats have the names of software products on their sides.
So Dave, what other 2 boats are you buying to create Lotus 1-2 and
3?? ;>) :>)
Take care and watch out from little Catamarans!
john
|
845.713 | | TUNER::HO | | Wed Oct 16 1991 14:18 | 23 |
| re. the leeward gates:
I haven't seen the article yet but my guess is they are intended to reduce
the number of collisions between starboard tackers heading left after
rounding the mark and the boats still sailing towards the leeward mark
under spinnaker.
The probability of collisions is high at the leeward mark, especially
if the chute is being taken down to weather. Unlike collisions at the
starting line, leeward mark collisions are frequently T-bones.
After a number of dicey situations this past season, and a very costly
collision a few years back, I'd like to see this tested out locally
next summer.
Congrats on your new job Dave. Monday mornings won't be the same
without your adventures to read about. Dare I ask if this is a sailing
monitvated move? After all, you'll be close enough to the Charles
River to race during lunch. And the harbor is within walking distance
for after work racing/cruising.
- gene
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845.714 | Speed Circle, too | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Oct 16 1991 16:15 | 13 |
| Gene, the job was not sailing motivated, but your ideas are great!!
I thought the idea of a leeward gate sounded pretty great! Opens up
tactical possibilities and reduces collisions as Gene says. I'd be
surprised not to see it tried locally, given the enthusiasm of those
who have tried it, mainly in Europe and Chicago.
Another concept that Sailing World has been puching is the Speed
Circle. They have a smaller (100 yard diameter) version for small one
designs. Anybody tried a speed circle yet? I only have a few days to
get this info!!!
Dave
|
845.715 | Looks like fun. | STAR::KENNEY | | Wed Oct 16 1991 16:42 | 10 |
|
I wanted to at the Newport show, but the weather worked against me.
Looks like it could be fun, but I am not sure I buy all their hype. I
still do not see how you factor out the wind. In a place with steady
winds no sweat. With variable conditions and a large number of boats
the wind scatter across a single run of boats could make determining
a winner very hard. Trying to average it out over a several runs would
seem to make it even worse.
Forrest
|
845.716 | 2 leeward marks | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Wed Oct 16 1991 17:56 | 18 |
|
Hi Dave,
My understanding of the 2 leeward marks are used in Match Racing.The
concept is to give the guy behind a chance to come back as he would start the
next beat in clear air as he would really have the choice of mark to round
and he'd be pretty dumb to follow the other guy ecsepially without an overlap.
This has something to do with TV coverage as once the leading boat gets on
top he'll sit on the other guy to the point of no return this is considered
boring. I'm not sure but I think this was used at the Lymington Cup this year
or at least was discussed. An article appeared in one of the local Yachting
mags about it,at least one top match racer wasn't to happy saying something
along the lines "Why should I let the guy off the hook".This hasn't being
tried in NZ yet.
As for speed circle I dont know what this is.
Cheers
Revel.
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845.717 | This could be something new! | MILKWY::SAMPSON | Driven by the wind | Wed Oct 16 1991 22:28 | 7 |
| I read "leeward gates" and partly because it's getting to be that
time of year, partly because I'm me, I envisioned a down wind slolom
course that required linking your jibes. This could be a hell of a work
out for the crew and I'll bet it would be wicked intense with other
boats around. Leeward gates, sounds like a lot of work to me.
Geoff
|
845.718 | | CRATE::BARKER | Now @NEW, ex. RYO,UCG,SBP,RES & REO | Thu Oct 17 1991 04:40 | 11 |
| The twin leeward marks were used in the Lymington Cup match racing, but
as I understood it, either of them had to be rounded to port. I am not
totally sure of this though.
They also had a system of time penalties for the on-water judging,
instead of 360 or 720 turns. I believe it was 20 seconds per foul.
Chris.
p.s. Best of luck, Dave, I shall miss the One-Ton talk. If you are ever
over here and fancy some REAL sailing...
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845.719 | More... | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Thu Oct 17 1991 11:36 | 18 |
| Thanks, Chris. I too will miss talking about One Ton madness. I might
get over there on my new job, so I'd like your phone number to link up
sometime! One of our crew grew up sailing in the Solent and has
regaled us with tales of Cowes Week for years. Others have done the
Fastnet (none wish to do it again!) and tell stories of opening up your
drysuit to pour more talcum powder down it once per day for six days.
Doing the Fastnet on a One Tonner is about the least attractive race I
can think of! My partner and I were non-resident members of the Royal
Corinthian YC. Never got over to see it before it was sold/folded.
Back to leeward gates. the idea is to have one gate at the end of the
leeward leg. Not multiple gates that must be passed through. The
marks can then be left to the appropriate side (port for the left mark,
starboard for the right mark) when turning back uphill. While the idea
was developed for match racing, it is now being applied to fleet
racing. Think it sounds fun!
Dave
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845.720 | Leeward Gates South of The Bombay Hills | NZOMIS::MITCHELL | Glen M. - The Kiwi Connection | Fri Oct 18 1991 07:44 | 31 |
| Revel, and others....
A leeward gate match racing exhibition was given in Wellington Harbour
last summer, with a match involving Russel Coutts on one yacht against
a local crew I think... I understand the course comprised two leeward
marks quite close together with the mark on the "left" side of the gate
taken to starboard, and then the "right" leeward mark taken to port..
The windward mark was set for a short beat only, say 10 minutes, and a
further gate was set to allow only one yacht through at a time on the
start finish line, to be passed through on both the beating and running
legs.
The match involved multiple circuits, was close to shore vantage
points, and apparantly made for some spectacular viewing.
I wasn't there, but one of my fellow club members from the Kapiti
Boating Club was, and as it happened he was our OOD the following week.
Naturally he decided to inflict this radical course on our fleet of 6
Racing trailer yachts, and we had a great time. The short course and
the need for full on crew work, particularly with a succession of kite
hoists and drops made it really interesting, particularly when the wind
shifted and the run became a broad reach, followed by a reach to reach
gybe at the leeward "left" gate, followed by a kite drop and gybe under
pressure at the "right" gate......etc.. we did about 7 circuits in 2
hours, and it sharpened up crew work no end...
It was really interesting when the leading boats got half a lap ahead
of the tail enders!!
Glen.
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845.721 | Speed Circling ain't racing ... | BOOKS::BAILEYB | Let my inspiration flow ... | Fri Oct 18 1991 09:25 | 21 |
| We did the Speed Circle on WAGS at the 1990 NOOD Regatta ... it was the
first year they tried it and we got T-shirts just for doing it. It
wasn't like racing at all, except for the fact that you were trimming
for speed. You get to start in either direction, whenever you please.
The comedy boat starts your time when you cross the starting line.
Almost everybody went counter-clockwise (so you could start with the
chute). They had six marks placed in an approximately 1-mile diameter
circle around that little island just inside the Newport Bridge. All
you had to do was get around the island, clearing all six marks.
Our time around the circle was about 28 minutes. For comparison
purposes, the best time was Rod Johnstone's kid in ZIPLOC (forget what
they call those ... Ultimate 14 maybe?) in just under 15 minutes. When
those guys went past us they looked like they were barely touching the
water !!!
Speed circles are fun to tune up your boat speed, but there's no
tactics involved ... it's all boat-handling and sail trimming.
... Bob
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845.722 | Not interested... | MILKWY::WAGNER | Scott | Mon Oct 21 1991 12:19 | 9 |
|
I read a description of such stuff in Mull's book; "Ready About".In fact
since his place overlooks Ida Lewis, maybe he was hoisting a brew to you
guys. Or maybe not...
Anyway, his reasoning was something like placing audience in the center.
Possible with the 14's, but you'd need binocs for OOD's.
Anyway, even I'd get bored after an hour or so...
Scott_who_watches_Cup_races_with_a_finger_on _the_fast-forward_button
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845.723 | tv | SERVE::hagerman | Flames to /dev/null | Mon Oct 21 1991 16:05 | 16 |
| It seems like there is always a lot going on on the big boats; maybe what would
make the racing interesting would be microphones on everybody and some post-race
editing for continuity. Aren't there enough mark roundings, equipment
disasters, and screw-ups, not to mention strategy arguments, to fill an hour
show after three or four boats are on the water for a week?
The "lowest common denominator" approach of the media seems wrong;
an America's cup show where it was assumed that the viewer was already
knowledgeable about boat racing might be more interesting than the pap they
offer now, even for those of us who might not understand all the arcane details.
Did you notice the brief mention in the Globe Sunday that sailing might
be eliminated, or reduced, in the olympics, in part because of it's lack of
audience appeal?
Doug.
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845.724 | The dull need not apply | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Mon Oct 21 1991 18:34 | 17 |
| Victor Forss who owns the 50 footer, Carat, has a production company
that turns out great video of the 50 foot circuit. The average video
is 1 hour long and contains highlights of several regattas in the
circuit. The one I saw had Miami, Tortola, and Key West or some such
combination. Talk about exciting footage!
The racing was nothing like watching grass grow, paint dry, or
fingernails being clipped! The tight, windward leeward courses and
relative evenness of the competition made for tight mark roundings,
tremendous starts, lots of collisions, and dismastings. In short, the
kind of stuff an average viewer would love to see.
The boats had cameras and sound in the cockpits as well. Not edited
for TV, the language was salty, but not offensive. Anyway, I don't
believe TV coverage has to be dull.
Dave
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845.725 | Adios | AKOCOA::DJOHNSTON | | Wed Oct 23 1991 19:31 | 10 |
| Well, that time has come. I'm out of here and the last thing I do
before walking out the door is enter this note.
Chris, Bob, Revel and Paul, keep these cruisers honest! Don't want
this file to turn into a Lyn and Larry Pardey session! ;^)
Fair winds to the cruisers, and to the racers, may you always get your
runners on in time! I'll miss the heck out of this.
Dave
|
845.726 | | VERGA::FACHON | | Thu Oct 24 1991 12:09 | 13 |
| Re -.1
Finally! I thought he'd never leave... ;)
While inspecting a would-be crusier for myself yesterday,
I spied "Harrier" in the same yard. Was tempted to
scrawl on the keel, "Good luck! From all the guys and
gals back in NOTES."
Cheers!
|
845.727 | CHS detials | CHEST::BARKER | Now @NEW, ex. RYO,UCG,SBP,RES & REO | Mon Oct 28 1991 04:45 | 23 |
| It was Dave Johnston who asked for this information, but I'll publish it
anyway.
He asked what the time allowances under our local Channel Handicap
System were for One tonners against the Tripps, J Boats etc. The
figures quoted are Time Correction Factors, i.e. the elasped time
is multipled by the TCF to give the corrected time.
Outstripper ( Tripp 40 ) 1.104
Jackdaw ( J-39 ) 1.094
Yes! ( J-39 ) 1.093
Floating Point ( ??? 1989 IOR One tonner ) 1.099
Relax ( ??? 1987 IOR One tonner ) 1.088
Bradamante ( Tripp 36 ) 1.071
Quokka ( J/N 1984 IOR One tonner ) 1.069
Note. Quokka is optimised to Channel Handicap ( lots of lead removed,
among other things ) whilst Relax and Floating Point are still in
their IOR configurations. All boats mentioned here, except for
Quokka and Bradamante carry penalties for carrying Kevlar sails.
Chris
|
845.728 | round peg in square hole' | EPS::SAMUELSON | | Mon Oct 28 1991 11:08 | 13 |
| I'd like to ask for a small enhancment to the last reply on CHS
ratings if I could. The Tripp's can have several different
configurations. Over here we have masthead and fractional rigged
boats. Some of the boats are ballasted to be quite heavy (relative to
other Tripp's that is) - E.G., there is a 40' class in the NorthEast
which has a cutoff lower than IMS GP 605 (sec/mile). So one of the
Tripp 40's added ballast until they reached GP 605. So, I'd be very
interested in knowing what the configuration of the Tripp 40 was in
your reply (masthead vs. frac, displacement).
Thanks,
Chuck
|
845.729 | | CRATE::BARKER | Now @NEW, ex. RYO,UCG,SBP,RES & REO | Tue Oct 29 1991 03:21 | 9 |
| Both Tripps are Fractional, although I don't know about their
ballasting configurations.
Judging by their speed in the light, I would guess that they do not
carry extra ballast. CHS generally doesn't encourage this, except
adding weight to the bottom of the keel.
Chris
|
845.730 | Summer racing has started | PIHIA::ARLINGTON | | Mon Nov 11 1991 21:35 | 46 |
|
The summer series has finally started with wednesday nights starting
last week and the RNZYS summer series starting last Saturaday. These are the
2 series that we take serious with a couple of longer distance races thown in
for good measure. Wednesday nights are for crew training mainly. I'm also
doing a 2-handed series on Tuesday evenings for a bit of fun.
Wednesday evening has a fleet of 9 Young 88 (30ft) competing our most
famous opposition being Ross Fields who annouced last week yamaha sponsorship
for a 2 boat 60ft campaign for the next whitbread round world race.Last
Wednesday started in a good breeze of about 12kts NW with a 2 mile beat to the
top mark, the boat end was favoured(at least we thought so) so thats where we
started,pushing out one boat above the committee boat and very nearly getting
stuffed by a boat we let get below us,very bad of us. We wanted to head for
the left hand side but we had to tack clear forceing us right. Well some 10
mins later the breeze died to well we keep getting forced right for the
first part of the beat by other boats,we where to weather and behind and
as the wind died further the right suddenly looked a lot better.The A division
boats outside looking good so we took the big dive right, this turned out
to be the winner for us, rounding first in B division and beating all but 5
A division boats around. The wind had gone right round to NE and the next mark
was a long lay (follow the leader) this was fine by us with a run to the
finish and we just covered them,gybe for gybe to the finish. The rest of the
fleet thought the race was a lottery, we thought it was a fair sailing breeze.
Anyway we won the 40oz bottle of Rum.
Saturaday had a similar forecast with a front supposed to pass over
at Midday with the winds going from Nw 15-20 to SW 20-25(our prevailing wind)
we thought this could be interesting as our start was at 11:45 and the course
was a triangle,w/l, beat to finish.Left again was the obvious side to go but
the entire fleet had the same idea, if the wind went south west it would have
being favoured. We got a good start just under "Danger Zone" the top boat,
forcing them right. The first beat had a steady breeze with the first 5 boats
fighting for clear air and trying to get the rest right, "smokey and the
choirboys" tacked into our leebow, we sucked it for a while then to our great
relief "Danger Zone" did the same to them leaving us with clear air but 3 boat
lengths behind. There was a small shift that DZ hooked into first, leading
around the first mark from 88 proof then us. DZ just increased her laed for
the rest of the race leaving the rest of us to fight out the minors. We got
2nd winning that battle.
This weekend we have a series of w/l. should be fun
Got to go is Tuesday 16:30 got to go sailing.
cheers
revel
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845.731 | Virginia Spirits Cup aka Turkey Shoot Regatta | DROPIT::MCBRIDE | | Mon Dec 02 1991 09:05 | 67 |
| This past weekend I had the great fortune to be sailing in the first
annual Virginia Spirits Cup previously known as the Turkey Shoot
Regatta. Stipulations were that any wooden boat or hull laid 25 +
years ago could complete. We raced on the Rappahanock River from
Yankee Pt. to Urbanna by way of the Rappahannock Bridge, approx. 12
miles. The fleet was split into two classes, those with a rating over
200 and those under. The LH40 I was on rated a 168, the low boat in
the fleet was a Mercer 44 sloop (nice cruiser Dean!) with a 110. There
were several skipjacks and a 1918 Herreshof (SP?) Yawl replica among
the boats in the race. Yours truly also had the honor of driving as
neither my brother in law, his partner or our crew had had ever raced
before.
The first race Friday found the line skewed with a port start at the pin
end being the best bet though no one took it except the Mercer. Many of
the starboard boats had a tough time laying the line. and at least two
had to tack to make it. The weather mark was easily laid on two tacks,
a short port and a long starboard. We were over first but got rolled
soon after the start by the Mercer which proceeded to sit on us. We
rounded the weather mark third, the Herreshoff rounded first and never
looked back. They supposedly rated a 198 but clearly they were as fast
as all but the Mercer. A long reach down to the bridge with 15-20
knots of wind provided a really great sail. Having it be in the 70's
and sunny helped quite a bit also. On the way back to Urbanna, the
Urbanna side of the river had more air which most boats discovered and
worked their way up. We lost ground by moving up too late. We had a
nice close reach to the finish and managed to drag the center board
through the sand about a 1/2 mile from the line. We came to almost a
complete stop and thought the wind had died but could not understand
why the sails were still full! Someone noticed the cable for the board
was slack and reduced our 8'+ draft to 3.5' and we were back on our
way. For having an inexperienced crew and never having raced the boat
before, we came in 4th. We did not save our time on the Mercer and let
a Tartan black watch 37 slide in ahead of us. The Herreshoff finished
first on corrected time.
Saturday, the line was set off of Urbanna creek with a short windward
leg to a portable mark (committe boat) and then around red 6 off of the
Corrotoman, to the bridge and back to Yankee Pt. Almost the reverse
but not quite. The line was skewed again and this time we decided to
go for a port start. Good thing as almost none of th boats were able
to lay it on starboard. We Had a great pin end start and were over
first well to windward of the fleet. Knowing where the windward mark
was we looked for the opportunity to tack over to starboard but all we
saw where the mark was, was a moving boat. The mark had dragged an
anchor and drifted quite a ways before getting back on station. Made
for a pretty confusing situation but we called the tack correctly and
was able to lay the line. We were first around the windward mark and
first around red 6 before the Mercer caught us. It looked like we were
going to save our time on her though as long as we kept it up. We were
well ahead of the Tartan and the Herreschoff and kept that lead to the
Bridge. We took the Yawl up and kept them at bay for quite awhile.
Mostly it was because we kept rounding up in the 20-25 knots of air
with too much sail up. The ride was exhilerating to say yhe least. We
gybed around under the bridge and came down low which gave the
Herreshoff room above. From there it was a drag race which we
eventually lost but not by much at the line. We again managed to scare
a bunch of crabs as we dragged through the sand three or four more
times just before the finish. This time we saved our time on everyone
but the Herreshoff which we owed 30 seconds a mile to. A second for
the day and third overall for the regatta was a moral victory at the
very least. All in all, not a bad way to spend Thanksgiving weeekend.
Hard to believe it was the last sailing day with the temperature in the
high 70's and the sun shining all weekend. Couldn't ask for a better
way to close the season.
Brian
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845.732 | Mercer 44 not fiberglass?? | VERGA::FACHON | | Thu Dec 19 1991 14:56 | 7 |
| I thought Mercer 44s were fiberglass. At least the Mercer 44
I'm thnking of is. Lovely boats. Somewhat like a shortened
version of the old Columbia 50.
Sounds like you had fun!
Dean
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845.733 | Yep, glass for sure | EMDS::MCBRIDE | | Fri Dec 20 1991 07:44 | 10 |
| The Mercers are glass. The entry rule were wooden boats of any vintage
and any boat over 25 years old. The Mercer was laid up in 1966 so she
just made it. Yes, very reminiscent of the Columbia 50. Flush deck,
raised deck house (small), relatively narrow. This version was a sloop
rig, most were yawls or ketches. This particular boat had also been
across the Pacific at least once and was kept in the Seattle area for
awhile. Sailed around on her own keel also. There's a few miles there
for you. All in all I had a blast.
Brian
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845.734 | Summer's comin'... mark those calendars! | MILKWY::WAGNER | Scott | Tue Feb 18 1992 13:23 | 81 |
|
This is the second (of 3 or so...) drafts of the YRUMB schedj for
the 1992 season. The only major movement I noticed was the Chapman.
Accuracy not guaranteed, but this should be close, and I'll post
updates.
North Shore South Shore
Date Sponsor - Race Sponsor - Race
---- -------------- --------------
5-9 CYC - Spring Tuneup
5-16 CPYC - Spring 1
5-17 EYC - Spring Race
5-23 Mar Bay - JFK 1
5-24 Mar Bay - JFK 2
5-25 Doyle - Mem. Day Shootout
5-30 MYC - Spring Series CPYC - Spring 2
5-31 BYC - Spring Regatta SBYC - Hanson Mem.
6-6 CPYC - Spring 3
6-7 EYC - Lambert Ocean Race
6-13 SHYC - Boston Light Trophy
6-14 CYC - Summerset
6-19 ScHYC - Chapman Bowl
6-27 MYC - Patton Bowl 1 HuYC - Hull Cup
6-28 MYC - Patton Bowl 2 HYC - Hitchcock Race
7-4 EYC - Annual Regatta
7-5 Cnst - Constitution Cup 1&2
7-10 EYC - Corinthian 200
7-18 CYC - Midsummer 1 SqYC - Lipton Cup 1
7-19 CYC - Midsummer 2 SqYC - Lipton Cup 2
7-25 MuscDyst - Monhegan Challenge ScYC - Scituate Invit. 1&2
7-26 HBPHRF - Fran Davis Memorial
8-1 BYC - Beringer Bowl QBRW - Quincy Bay Race Week 1
8-2 QBRW - Quincy Bay Race Week 2
8-8 WYC - Eddy Chin Memorial
8-9 JYC - M/S Charity Race
8-15 SSYC - South Shore YC Regatta
8-16 CYC - Summer Race
8-22 HYC - Bill Gray Memorial
8-23 EYC - Chandler Hovey
8-29 PHRF-NE Championships 1
8-30 PHRF-NE Championships 2
9-5 BYC - Fall Series 1&2 CPYC - Labor Day Series 1&2
9-12 JYC - Regatta Weekend 1 SHYC - Hosea White
9-13 JYC - Regatta Weekend 2 HBPHRF - Fall Series #1
9-19 BYC - Hodder Race 1 CPYC - Fall 1
9-20 BYC - Hodder Race 2 HBPHRF - Fall Series #2
9-26 MYC - Fall 1 HBPHRF - Chowder Cup
9-27 MYC - Fall 2 CPYC - Fall 2
10-3 CPYC - Fall 3
10-4 JYC - Last Race PLY - Plymouth Invitational
10-10 BYC - Rum Squall Regatta BHPHRF - Boston Harbor Challenge
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845.735 | UK Offshore season starts | BASCAS::CSOONE::BARKER | @UCG,ex UBO,NEW,REO,RES,SBP,UCG & RYO | Wed Apr 22 1992 06:58 | 30 |
| Easter weekend saw the start of the UK offshore racing season with the JOG
races to Cherbourg & back.
I was back on board my usual mount "Olivia Anne IV", a 21 year old Scampi,
following last years problems. The race started with a run down the Solent
in heavy rain, changing to a beat as we rounded the end of the Isle of Wight.
The wind then went round, and the rain stopped leaving a pleasant 60 mile 2-sail
reach to the French coast, with most boats arriving before dark. In these easy
conditions, the larger cruising boats did well, and we were completely down the
pan, having tried a radical inshore tack at the start of the beat. This would
have worked if only the wind hadn't veered. Another 'if only'...
The one-tonner Quokka, on which I appeared last year had even more serious
problems struggling to get to grips with a new keel, a new mast position, a
pregnant owner and a new #1 Genoa, and they were next-to-last, and were also
fined 700ff by French customs for not having the correct registration documents.
As is now becoming almost compulsory in JOG races, there was a party on board
one of the Yachts. This week it was the turn of 'Cruella de Ville', which is
named after the evil mistress in Disneys '101 dalmations' . The boat has a
balck-and-white spotted kite, crew uniform, and even bottom paint.
The trip back was seriously pleasant, with a kite reach under clear blue skies,
followed by a gentle beat back up the Solent. Unfortunately, the wind died, and
it took us 3 hours to complete the last mile against a strong easterly tide.
The next race is in 2 weeks time, a 150 miler to the new marina in St Quay,
Northern Brittany.
Chris
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845.736 | 6' draft, 5' depth = crunch! | EMDS::MCBRIDE | Flick of my BIC Scarecrow? | Mon May 18 1992 10:04 | 56 |
| Had the chance to get in the first race of the season Saturday with the
Cottage Park Spring series. I was on a Frers 33, Eclipse out of
Cottage Park. Turned out to be a beautiful day for a sail, steady 12
knots light chop, sun and a commanding lead the whole day.
The course was from the yellow anchorage bouys off of the airport
through Hypocrite channel to the 3 1/2 Fathom rock/ledge between the
Graves and Hull. Over to Flip Rock off of Nahant and back into the
harbor.
We had good boat speed and seemed to be able to stay bow up on most
folks. The wind favored the right side of the course for the which we
were able to use to great advantage. For the most part, it was a
parade around the course. From 3 1/2 to Flip Rock, the best course was
to stay high and go to the North of the Graves. Several boats went
below and could not carry their chutes to Flip Rock. We went high but
failed to honor the green Graves bouy and ended up disqualified. The
disappointing thing was we were within 100 yards of it and could have
easily rounded if we had known.
The day was exciting anyway. We had half of the Boston Harbor chart
since the skipper had "cleaned" the chart table and someone forgot to
put the charts back on the boat. The Loran was working well enough so
we were able to get bearing to the marks that way. We had the outer
half of the Boston Harbor chart which allowed us to navigate safely
through Hypocrite Channel and around the Graves. The excitement came
after rounding the Flip Rock buoy and headed back to the line. We did not
have a chart for this part of the Harbor.
On the way back in there were some conversations going on about where
the day marker off of Deer Island was supposed to be. I asked if their
wasn't foul water to the land side of the channel and evryone agreed it
was closer to Deer Island. We kept a look out for the day mark which
ended not being there anymore. It has been replaced by an orange bouy
or got washed away in one of the storms last year. Just as we had
settled down for lunch in our oh so commanding lead the helms person
looked at the depth sounder just as it dipped below 10 feet. He tried
in vain to spin the boat with the chute up just as we hit the first
time. We had successfully found Fond (sp?) Ledge at about 5 knots.
Some excellent crew work was able to get the chute down right away. We
managed to reconfirm our position on the ledge several more times,
probably about 10 or so. Eventually we stumbled and crunched our way
back into deeper water. The chute was hastily repacked and set and we
were off again. A little shaken maybe but still in the lead. We saved
out time on the other boats even with the fire drill. Little did we
know at the time that we were to be disqualified for our indiscretion
at the Graves.
All in all it made for an exciting day. The dmage to the keel seems
superficial but will require pulling and filling. The sight of glass
fibers floating in the water around your boat is a little disheartening
though. The keel is sheathed in glass and took all of the damage.
Fortunately there doesn't seem to be any structural. They will be back
in the water for the JFK.
Brian
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845.737 | July 4th race ... boat sinks, crew rescued | CUPTAY::BAILEY | A pirate looks at 40. | Mon Jul 06 1992 14:56 | 29 |
| Disaster struck sailor Walter Lukey for the second time in five years
during this Saturday's annual July 4th race ... Little Orphan Annie II
joined her predecessor on the bottom of Salem Bay. She went down in
about 100 feet of water, roughly a mile southeast of Tinker's Gong.
We didn't see it happen, but we did see the crew being pulled from the
water ... all hands were rescued safely and there were no injuries.
Weather conditions were just a little on the rough side of moderate.
It was raining fairly steadily, with winds blowing 18-22 from the
southeast, and seas at 6-8 feet.
From what I have heard, Walter and crew had hauled up their centerboard
for the downwind run ... the course was a simple windward-leeward
course, between Tinker's Gong and an upwind portable mark. IMO - this
tactic works well in light air and/or flat seas, but wasn't the
smartest thing to do in the conditions we were sailing in. She took a
wave a little too much to the beam and went over. With the centerboard
up there was just no way she was coming back up.
I feel very bad for Walter. He lost his first boat about five years
ago in similar conditions. From what I've heard, this boat was not
insured.
Race results are as yet undetermined, due to the fact that the first
four A fleet boats on the scene were involved in the rescue.
... Bob
|
845.738 | Jud Smith keeps Job | TUNER::HO | | Mon Jul 13 1992 10:38 | 8 |
| Don't have any of the details but Jud Smith won the Neport Regatta in
the Etchells class beating current world champion Dennis Conner.
The rumor is that Conner will defend his championship at the 1992 worlds
at Larchmont this year. It has also been said he'll be at Marblehead
Race Week this year.
- gene
|
845.739 | Any Corinthian 200 Results | LANDO::STONE | | Mon Jul 13 1992 13:35 | 1 |
| Any Corinthian 200 results????
|
845.740 | | VERGA::FACHON | | Tue Jul 14 1992 14:32 | 3 |
| Did anyone *do* the Corinthian? We finally wrote it off.
Too many bad experiences, and not even a fun port o'call
at the other end.
|
845.741 | Lake Champlain Race 8/14-8/16 | EMDS::MCBRIDE | Flick of my BIC Scarecrow? | Mon Aug 17 1992 12:58 | 47 |
| Sailed in the Lake Champlain race this weekend. Course as usual was
about 90 miles covering the widest parts of the lake from Valcour
Island to Diamond Island.
The start was uneventful with overcast skies and a slight dizzle
turning to rain by 9:00 PM. Not a pleasant way to spend the next 36
hours. By 11:00 or so the rain stopped and the moon came out making
for nice visibility. We stayed close to the Vermont shore this year
making up a lot of ground on the boats ahead of us at the start. A
Tartan 33 went into the New York Shore and ended falling into a hole
which they were never able to recover from.
Steady winds from the south made for a decent beat down the lake. We
made it down to Diamond island in about 8 hours which was roughly half
way for us. The winds lightened appreciably as we turned the corner
and headed back up under a reluctant chute. The winds coming off the
New york shore with high cliffs was quite shifty leading us to reach
across toward the vermont side. We able to put about 45 minutes
between us and the next closest boat by this point.
By mid morning on Saturday the wind started to shift around to the
North turning our run up the lake into a pregressively tighter reach.
We mad good speed back up to 4 brothers where the wind died all
together and then shifted 30 degrees to the Northeast. Down with the
chute, up with the #1 and we ghosted from there to Juniper Island. It
took us 12 hours to go from Juniper back to Stave Island where the race
was shortened.
On the way back up with it looking very likely that the race would be
called on account of no wind at this point. We ran up on Hogback reef
at about .5 knots with the Vermont State Police watching the whole
escapade. The rock we hit was about the size of a small ranch house.
Several crew went into the water and pushed us out into deeper water
where we gathered ourselves back on the boat and continued up the lake
at 1 knot. We still had over an hour on the nearest competitor. A
cursory inspection afterwards found a few scratches on the bottom of
the keel and no real damage.
The danger was in not finishing by five which would have been the
official cancellation of the race. We finished at 4:35 PM clinching
first. As it turned out the wind freshened from the South and our
competition was steadily gaining with the new breeze. It was too late
as we won by a very handy margin, grounding and all. Next to grounding
our worst fear was running out of beer which we very nearly did! :-).
All in all not a bad time this year.
Brian
|
845.742 | 1992 NOODs | VERGA::FACHON | | Wed Aug 19 1992 11:42 | 40 |
| The 1992 Newport NOODs were held last weekend. The J35 class
had 19 or 20 boats in the fleet, many of them the top-ranked 35s
in the country, with heavy-weight crew-members from
"America Cubed" and other Cup contenders, world-class Etchells
racers, as well as big guns from other fleets. The prevailing
Nor'Easter kept the racing inside the bay, in the west passage north
of Jamestown Island. We had 5 races, all upwind/downwind, in 3
days. The winds varied between 12 and 20 knots, with the direction
predominantly out of the north north-east. Although it drizzled and
rained for most of the regatta -- some sun one day -- the racing
conditions were outstanding.
Early on in the series we learned we have a boat-speed problem
to weather, and this plagued us throughout. Nonetheless,
we managed some good starts and a few reasonable weather legs.
A year is too long to go between one-design regattas, however,
and our tactics showed it. We made too many tactical errors early on,
and then our machanics got sloppy, so we never managed better than
a tenth. Our series position was 12th, I beleive.
Once again, I'm convinced there's no better racing than one-design.
PHRF pales by comparison. And even though you get boat-handling
practice racing PHRF, the tactical priorities for one design are
somewhat rearranged. In handicap, you don't have nearly
as much in-fighting, as boats separate quickly. Therefore, you tend
to pay more attention to expected wind-shifts and steady-state
boat handling. In one-design, clear air is crucial, and it takes a
lot more jockeying to find it while trying to go the right way.
"Downspeed" boat-handling becomes far more important, and familiarity
with the racing rules is critical because there are numerous tight
situations. I love it!
The North Americans are in Newport in September, and I'm hoping we
find a way to go. Coming off the NOODs, I think we have the experience
to get into the top third of the fleet. If we go, we'll be looking
for one more crew. Someone *very* experienced, knowledgeable, agile,
and strong. Send me mail if you'd be interested.
Cheers,
Dean
|
845.743 | | UNIFIX::BERENS | Alan Berens | Wed Sep 23 1992 16:12 | 2 |
| Does anyone have a mailing address for Bob Wilcox in Marblehead?
|
845.744 | He was at New Wave | MARX::CARTER | | Wed Sep 23 1992 18:25 | 9 |
| Alan,
Bump was with New Wave Yachts, last I knew.
Their address is: 6A Cliff Street, M'Head 01945
phone 617 639-0206 FAX 617 639 1488
djc
|
845.745 | E22 Worlds Standings | SSVAX::HO | | Thu Sep 24 1992 18:53 | 14 |
| Standings after 5 of 6 races at the 1992 Etchells World chanpionship
1. Larry Creaser Who????
2. David Curtis 6 or 7 times prior winner
3. Larry Klein 1989 winner
4. Dirk Kneulman
5. Dennis Conner defending champion
6. Billy Lynn
7. Peter Warren
8.
. 59 other people
.
66.
|
845.746 | exit | EPS::SAMUELSON | | Fri Sep 25 1992 09:16 | 18 |
| Larry Creaser - is a relative unknown who has (if I've got the right
guy) hired someone to drive his boat, and thus will be tossed if he
wins.
Dave Curtis (of Marblehead), owner of North Sails M'hd loft, has won
world championships in J-24's, IOD's and ??
Peter Warren - works for DEC in Marlboro. Crewed for Dave Curtis in
the IOD days and for Westy Adams on Stampede. Sails with Twig Burke of
Burke Insurance Agency in Salem - the best place to buy marine
insurance in New England.
Judd Smith - has beaten DC in the last two major E-22 regattas on the
East Coast. Where is he now???
Anyway, the local E-22 fleet is well represented.
Anybody want to buy a competitive 40'er?
|
845.747 | | SSVAX::HO | | Fri Sep 25 1992 14:14 | 29 |
| Thursday was a lay day. The final race is today, probably starting as
I type.
Larry Creaser is from Canada and has Eric Kopernaes, Canadian Soling
champion, driving the boat for him. There some question about whether
Kopernaes had registered as a co-skipper in the qualifying series.
They're in 1st place with 33 points.
Curtis is in 2nd with 34 points. So today is the big race.
Jud Smith's finishes have been: 2 3 6 7 9. That would have given him 27
pts or the 1st place position. BUT he dsq'd in race 1 and PMS'd in race
2. His Actual score after five is 156 which puts him way down there.
He's appealing the DSQ, claiming he has video taped evidence to support
him. If the appeal is sustained and he throws out his pms and he
wins today's race, he'd have 24.75 pts. He could win depending on
how bad the finishes are that Creaser and Curtis throw out.
While there were a few breakdowns due to the breeze on Wednesday, there
have been no dismastings and violent collisions as we had during race
week.
Don't know what's behind Dennis Conner's unexpectedly poor performance.
He won the Long Island Sound regatta three weeks ago held in the
same area and against many of the same people. If it's due to one low
finish, a combination of a win today and a throw out could make a big
difference as it will for Jud.
- gene
|
845.748 | Any Current Maxi Results from France? | LANDO::STONE | | Wed Sep 30 1992 08:36 | 5 |
| Does any of our European sailing friends have any results of the maxi-
boat series currently going on in France? I know that Matador squared
is competing with most of the America's Cup crew.
Thanks
|
845.749 | | VOX::MORRIS | Tom Morris - IVV Voice Engineering | Tue Oct 13 1992 22:24 | 11 |
| I just got back from a week at La Nioulargue in St. Tropez which is
where many of the maxis were. Merit finish 1st overall in the Cup
results for the year. I think Safilo was first in the last Maxi race.
Safilo (renamed Afil for the week due to advertising restrictions) was
first in its class for most of the races during the week. Ville de
Paris (current 12 meter) beat Endeavor (J-boat) in the Thursday challenge
match racing.
I can try to dig up more complete results if anyone is interested.
Tom
|
845.750 | | VERGA::FACHON | | Thu Oct 22 1992 12:29 | 9 |
| re .746
What's a "40'er?"
How much should a used Etchells cost, assuming very good condition
and competitive equipment?
Just curious,
Dean
|
845.751 | | JUPITR::KEENAN | | Thu Oct 22 1992 13:56 | 6 |
| Dean,
Matt Brown here in SHR wants to sell his E-22. I can put him
in touch w/ you if you want.
Paul
|
845.752 | | SSVAX::HO | | Thu Oct 22 1992 18:28 | 8 |
| What's a "40'er"?
In the context, probably a C&C37R
Used E-22 = $5k - $40K depending on how used and your definition
of "very good". Lots of them for sale.
- gene
|
845.753 | | VERGA::FACHON | | Wed Oct 28 1992 14:40 | 33 |
| Good condition =
No deck delamination. I've heard some Etchells have
a problem with that.
No major dings.
No major patch jobs without complete "documentation."
Original gel-coat still shines when waxed.
All moving parts in good working order, with evidence
of regular service.
Faired keel, if applicable.
Relatively new mast.
Complete sail inventory with no more than
a season's use, on average.
That's the basics. And a nice trailer, of course.
Can something like that be had for under 12K?
I'm not ready to buy one. Just want to see how the
idea fits. Would suit my racing tastes, although I still
have my heart set on a nice 35 foot cruiser. It's just
that DEC stock kind of pulled those plans out from under.
Thanks,
Dean
|
845.754 | Just Do It | SSVAX::HO | | Wed Oct 28 1992 17:55 | 19 |
| $12K ought to get something meeting most of those conditions.
Prices ought to be down a bit next season because there is no World
championship being held in North America. That'll also mean more boats
to choose from.
The cheapest way to go may be to find a charter for the summer. Prices
are negotiable but figure on $1000 - $1500 of money, parts, or new
sails.
After a lengthy tuning session with Jud Smith involving boats and sails
spanning the age range, I'm convinced it's all tuning, trim, and tactics.
More than one owner has bought a new boat just to see their fleet
standing fall.
Take the plunge now while your DEC stock will still buy a decent boat.
Come next Spring, your stock may not finance much more than a Laser.
- gene
|
845.755 | | LARVAE::CSOONE::BARKER | NE1410IS | Tue May 04 1993 09:48 | 38 |
| This weekend was our first offshore race, from Cowes to Ouistreham,
a 130 mile Royal Ocean Racing Club race, and one of the qualifiers
for this years Fastnet race. Ouistreham ( probably spelt wrong ) is
a small port on the French Normandy coast, near Le Havre. The race
was interesting for two incidents, both of which took place inside
the Solent.
1) We overtook a Whitbread 60 in our 30 foot Scampi
2) An interesting luffing match.
The first occurred shortly after the start where the whole fleet
sailed into a hole, and the tide turned against us. The small boats
headed for the mainland shore to get out of the tide where they also
found a little shaft of wind. The Whitbread 60 'Dolphin' had been
leading the fleet, but because of its huge draft, was unable to get
out of the tide, and just sat their watching the small boats sail
past. It took them over half an hour to catch us up again.
The second, which occured at the same time, involved a Sigma 33,
faster than us, who didn't have his spinnaker up, and us , who did.
The Sigma was determined not to let us past to windward, which was
also the shore side. We knew the area was shallow, but our echosounder
was dead. We got out our binoculars to try and read his, but his was
turned off. As he had no kite up, there was no way we could get past
him, but rather than try to pass to leeward, we kept pushing him and
eventually he hit the bottom. A huge cheer from us and we bore away
under him. He soon refloated, but was 10 lengths behind by then
The rest of the race was rather less eventful and was sailed under
blue skies and light winds from astern. Fog descended during the night
and we spent a while dodging tankers in the shipping lanes in visibilty
of 200 yards. The 130 miles took us 25 hours.
Not surprisingly, Dolphin won line honours, and we were 3rd in class 3
( out of about 30 )
Chris.
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845.756 | JFK partial report | EMDS::MCBRIDE | Flick of my BIC Scarecrow? | Wed Jun 02 1993 16:58 | 24 |
| We did the JFK this weekend in quite windy conditions. We were seeing
30+ over the deck fairly regularly. I was only there for Saturday
which was a very disappointing day for us. We somehow managed to miss
the start by a minute or so which didn't help. We did have clear air
though! The first leg was pretty uneventful though we seemed to be
able to make up some time by going right to start. We were much closer
to the other boats at the first weather mark. The A boats were having
a noticeably tough time with their chutes but we decided to go with
ours as well. Several boats broached almost immediately after hoisting
which helped us pick up a little more time. Things were goping well
until the first of our broaches which gave back a lot of what we
gained. The second broach yielded a shredded chute which put us
farther in the hole. We ended up trying a number one and then opted
for another chute, lighter (.6 oz) but newer. This put us back in the
hunt so to speak. The next upwind leg was more of the same as the
first, lumpy, wet and long. Thankfully the race was shortened and we
finished after the second upwind leg. I heard the C fleet did not even
start which was probably a good call. We had the pleasure of
witnessing two dismastings and several good broaches. One of our
competitors lost a crew partially overboard that ended up with a
dislocated shoulder. We do not know if it happened on the way out or
back in. Reportedly nothing was broken as well.
Brian
|
845.757 | Race/Party/Damage report | SANDZ::WAGNER | Scott | Thu Jun 03 1993 12:44 | 28 |
|
I raced in the C Fleet- we started, one of our best, and started
really moving- then BANG BANG cancellation! Nuts! So the race was down
the North Channel, we held off a Dehler 37 and a J-somethingorother,
then a good sized cruising fleet boat after Deer Island Light. A steady
low-30 knots, gusts over mid-40's. I didn't even _want_ to launch the
0.6oz. chute.
The party was much better, and better organized, than last year's
hohum back at the library. Good steaks, "limited" open bar, DJ's in the
tent. We stayed at Marina Bay's slips.
Sunday morning, the RC boat sent a kid around the docks, telling us
to monitor the radio while the RC boat went out and check the weather.
Since I had heard the RC say he's cancel if the winds were over 20, we
sat tight. Just a BIT too long. They started RIGHT on time! We were 4
minutes late, enough to bury us in the low-middle of the finishers.
Rats. Another lesson learned. The race was pretty fun, if not
predictable; a not-quite-windward-leeward. The Olson 30 HAVOC lost the
mast, as a J-29 had done the day before, right upwind of us. We checked
and radio'd; no injuries. I guess on Saturday, aside from a shoulder
dislocation, a spin pole snapped and the unlucky crew needed 6 stitches
in the noggin.
A good turnout at the awards; free goodies and open bar attracted
quite the army of locals as well. West Marine kicked in some nautical
goodies for the winners.
Anybody do the Figawi? I'm interested in a change of pace...
Scott
|
845.758 | Queencity Regatta - Burlington VT 6/12/93 | EMDS::MCBRIDE | Flick of my BIC Scarecrow? | Tue Jun 22 1993 14:15 | 25 |
| The Queencity Regatta was held amid much fanfare and little wind off of
Burlington VT two weekends ago. Our very own and much publicized
Southern Cross was the committee boat for the event. Only one of the
three planned races was held due to lack of wind. Finally after noon,
a slight breeze filled in which was enough to get the boats off. We
raced in C class and had a pretty good start at the boat end. We were
going to be early getting to the line so we threw in a gybe to eat up
some time. Even as it was, we were still early to the line but much
farther to windward than our competition. The course was a
windward/leward twice around and three times around for the A&B boats.
with .6 mile legs, there was not a lot of time for fooling around. We
ended up taking the gun and the race when our nearest competition who
we owed a ton of time to decided to tack out of our bad air as we were
approaching the finish. They sailed almost the entire lenght of the
line before tacking back which was enough to allow us to tie them on
corrected time! The tie was decided by of all things flipping a coin
at the award ceremony which we won as well. Meanwhile back at the
course, the wind died just in time for the A&B boats to reach the last
leeward mark and head for the line. We watched the slow crawl to the
line while swilling bevvies dockside. Great sunshine helped to make
the day a 9.0, some decent wind would have made it a 10.0. Southern
Cross was also a big hit dock side drawing much attention while
Georgia squeezed 75' of boat into a 78' space!
Brian
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845.759 | Lake Champlain race 7/10-7/11 | EMDS::MCBRIDE | Flick of my BIC Scarecrow? | Wed Jul 14 1993 11:18 | 75 |
| Sailed in the Lake Champlain Race last weekend. Overnight starting on
Friday evening. The course was the same as last year, Start behind
Stave island across the lake to a small island (Crab?) down to Juniper,
around Four Brothers and down to Diamond Island. The A and B
fleets continue down to Crown point adding another 30 or so miles,
Back up to the Bros. back around Juniper, around Stave and across to
Crab island and back to Stave for the finish.
This uears fleets were quite small in comparison to previous ones. The
start was remarkably uneventful including the wind. There wasn't any.
The A fleet gun went off and it was like watching grass grow. Most of the
boats barely had steerage way. By the time the fleet cleared the line the
B gun went off. This continued until all four fleets were essentially at
the ine at the same time. A slight breeze kicked in to allow the fleets
to separate somewhat. As expected, Golden Dazy eeked out an early lead
followed closely by a Kiwi 30 sailed by North Sails. We reached the first
mark leading the C fleet (all three boats) along with a bunch of the B
boats. Not long after the rounding, the wind picked up some more to make
for a very pleasant if not blazingly fast sail down the lake toward Juniper
Island. The fleets were still relatively close making it easier for
the smaller boats to find the unlit mark in the dark. The A fleet was
kind enough to iluuminate the bouys for us so safe roundings were all
but assured.
The sail down the lake was all up wind with a reach across to the four
Brothers. The breeze built all night and settled in right around 20-22
knots. Day break found us near split rock getting lifted along the
N.Y. shore. At this point we were solidly in the lead and were debating on
which chute to use going back up the lake. The wind weakened in the
narrows and led us to believe the .75 would be just about right.
Rounding Diamond was uneventful and we could see the A and B fleets
ahead of us farther down the lake getting becalmed. Up went the .75
and we started back up. As we approached Split Rock, the wind we had
experienced on the way down was still there and blowing 20-25 knots.
The boat started to occillate quite dramatically but never broached or
gybed. It was more than a litle nerve wracking being within spitting
distance of the steep to shore line with way too much sail up. There
must have been a funneling effect in the narrows because shortly after
we cleared land, the breeze settled back down to a more comfortable 15
or so knots. We were making great time on the boat behind us until we
sailed into a heavy air hole near the N.Y. shore. Our 30 minute lead
turned into a 30 minute deficit by the time we could get back out into the
wind line. Very frustrating after having led all night.
We chased our competition around the four brothers shaving some of the
distance down and chose to use the number one to reach across to Juniper.
They popped a chute which helped their cause alot. We finally popped the
1.5 ounce being flatter which helped our reaching and ate up some more
distance. It was going to be a drag race back up the lake and hopefully
we would have the speed to compensate for our early mistake.
Things were going okay until we noticed that we were catching our
copmetition quite quickly it was about then we noticed that their sails
were full and drawing but they weren't going anywhere. It was whe they
tried to tack with their chute up that we really knew something was up.
They had run up on the rocks just south of Juniper and were hard
aground. Must have been a tremendous hit as we were reaching in the
6.5 knot range. We offered assitacne bu they declined and started the
motor to get off which they finally did. They retired from the race
which put us back in the lead. The next closest boat was about 2 hours
behind or more so all we needed to do was finish. We were happy to
have won but it was kind of a hollow victory. We would have like to
have seen those guys pull a couple of 360 or so and continue on but
there may have compromised their hull when the hit. The rest of the
day was great with clear skies and a nice brisk breeze in the mid 20's.
We finished at about 2:00 and had a nice swim before heading back down
the lake on a power reach. As it turned out the boat that Georgia
Hilton (Southern Cross) was on ran up on the same set of rocks the
other boat did. No hull damage but they severly chewed up their keel,
They retired and the boat was hauled that afternoon. All in all it was a
great weekend but a few of us will give some of the marks a little more
respect in the future.
Brian
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845.760 | NOODs 1993 | CONSLT::MCBRIDE | Flick of my BIC Scarecrow? | Mon Aug 23 1993 10:54 | 73 |
| Anyone else in here go to the NOODs? We sailed all three days and got
completely hosed. DFL isn't pretty but we still had a good time in the
tent etc.
The Frers 33 fleet was between 7 and 9 boats. Most of them were from
Long Island Sound, CT, NY etc. We were the only boat from North of the
Cape. Friday started out sunny and breezy and became progressively
more overcast and windy as the day wore on. A steep chop helped to
keep the creww members wet and sick, at least two of ours admitted to
getting sick, I think the tally was higher though.
Two Windward/leewards twice around were set with approximately 2.5 mile
legs. We were in the same starting circle as the Melges 24, J-80,
J-24, F27 and NY36 fleets. The small boats took a beeting upwind but
what a ride back down. The Melges looked like they were having a blast!
Our start was uneventful as was our upwind boat speed. We could not
seem to get dialed in and settled down. No one could figure out which
sail to go with. We opted for the two but there were three boats to
windward all sporting different sails. The boat with the blade had
good point and speed. We were 5th or 6th to the weather mark and
watched with some amusement and horror as each boat in front of us
rounded up with their chutes. We set ours and choked it down somewhat
to help keep the boat under control. At least two boats rounded up in
front of us and stayed over for about 30-40 seconds it seemed. One
boat slightly behind us and to weather shredded two chutes on that leg.
We were catching people through attrition but in reality we had good
boat speed as well down wind so we were doing okay on our own merits.
The take down at the mark had us in fourth place closing on third. A
nice douse and jib set helped to keep up boat speed. About a minute or
so after rounding, the swivel on on the main sheet broke at the boom so
we lost our main wioth no way to repair it quickly. We took a DNF for
race one.
The second race was going much better for us having changed to the
number three. A lot less weather helm and surprisingly good speed
relative to the fleet had us optimistic about the outcome. Down wind
again was a sleigh ride with boats slewing all over the ocean in a
decent following sea. By this time we had a steady 22+ and things were
getting pretty exciting. Many more round ups, one right in front of us
which we had to alter course to avoid. This one made the paper
actually! Things were going well at the leeward mark with a clean
douse and set again. About a third of the way to the finish, the jib
halyard parted. It was at this time that we also noticed the spinnaker
halyard had frayed and was starting to unravel. A quick decision to
abondon the race was made in order to get in to make repairs in hopes
of racing Saturday and Sunday.
A new halyard was made up on the dock and the spin. halyard was
repaired all at a cost of about $130.00. Not too bad for convenience
and speed. This allowed us to continue the weekend. Friday in general
was not a good day. One person lost two fingers on Gem, one of the IMS
or 43 footers. Got caught in a sheet and severed. Another boat lost a
mast at the third spreader. So it was an eventful day all around.
Saturday was bright and sunny with a steady breeze out of the North.
As soon as the tide turned the chop went away making it a perfect day for
sailing. Two races were marred by a protest fest with one boat
protesting at least three boats in the fleet including us. We screwed
up the finish by hitting the pin end of the line after finishing. We
lost the protest and took a DSQ. The second race was uneventful all
the way around and drifted in second to last. Not a good weekend so
far results wise.
Sunday was like Saturday but cooler. A triangle, winward leeward was
set and abandoned after the breeze died on the last downwind leg. This
was unfortunate as we were in fourth and holding our own and could have
had decent finish for the weekend. I think we would still be out there
now!
All in all not a stellar performance but a good weekend overall with
the parties etc.
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845.761 | Let the games begin.... | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Jul 15 1994 14:32 | 52 |
| Well the monohull was ready to do some rac'n, so last night was our
first shot at the JYC thursday night beer can races. Nobody had a
course book when I went to registar, so we had to play it by ear.
Light winds meant using the 150. We got an excellant start leading
the pack in Crusing C class. About 10 minutes into this, the headiness
was replaced with "how am I every going to tack to port before running
aground?". I started climbing at the expense of speed, but lost a lot
of time on the next tack as I had to sail out of a hole near the shore. by
the time we were ready to tack again, I had let everyone get my me ;>(.
Working the winds on the next tack got back 3 boats. An identical P26
was now 2 boatlengths behind me. I put a cover on her and increased
it to 4 boatlengths by the windward mark. the wind was slowly dieing
and backing around. The reaching leg turned into a starboard beat in
light air. I was able to put appr 20 boatlengths on my sistership when
they didn't notice the wind shift and kept their sails trimmed out.
By the time we got to the turning mark, we had halved the distance to
the next 2 boats in from of us, but then the wind died. We plugged
along in breaths of air wing on wing not knowing we could use a
spinnaker pole to keep the jib out. Our sistership made up lots of
distance at the mark and had no one behind them, so they started coming
after us. With a half mile to go, the wind started to shift back
clockwise, so we brought jib over to the same side as the main, put
our weight on the side to roll some extra waterline and sat it out.
We beat our sistership by 4 minutes. We came in 6th out of 7, but
our handicap was fast by 30 seconds a mile, so I think we really had
4th or 5th. We were happy for a first time out, and learned a couple
of things.
1. you can use spinnaker poles without penalty.
2. being in front is not always a winning strategy. Only at the end of
a race.
3. It is hard to plot a strategy when you don't know where you are
going and you don't know how to get there. This week we have the
rules book.
4. Portsmouth is OK, but 1 design is better...
5. a 225 rated boat makes light air races go on forever...
Next week is the last of the spring schedule, so we will use it to
get ready for the fall series. After a year of non-competitive sailing,
it was quite a kick to get back into it.
john
(Erna Ann)
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845.762 | Wet and Wild one at JYC | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Jul 22 1994 10:39 | 64 |
| Last night was a blast! 15 knt winds that would not quit. We had
a choice of a 150 and a reef or a 110 and no reef. With hanks taking
forever to do a sail change should the wind die, we decided on the 150
and a reef.
The course was a bizzare set up. 500 yrds on starboard before a tack to
port for maybe half a mile. Then a close reach for a short distance
before a starboard gybe and then beam reach for 2 miles before tacking
to port for a close reach/beat to the finish. The wierd thing was the
boats were flying all over the place.
By the time our gun goes off, the A fleet big boys are reaching right
in front of the starting line at incredible speeds. Being new at this,
I backed off about 15 seconds to give me some room and let most of the
A fleet go by. At the gun I was in 9th out of 10 (The last guy took
the bad end of the line).
A good tack put us up a position or two. It was getting interesting
at the windward mark with a couple of boats mixing it up. I ducked one
starboard boat, but missed a second one coming up on the mark and had
to crash tack. It cost me 2 positions by the time of the rounding. We
went maybe another 1/4 mile on a port beam reach. One boat slipped by
me, but at the mark I went a bit wide, gybed hard and got upwind of
everyone to where I could mess with their wind, but they couldn't luff
me without plenty of time for course changes on my part.
This leg was the beam reach of your dreams. The beam reach was a wet
and wild one with 3 of us really close (+- 10 feet) going at hull
speed. It really reminded me of cat racing. The 150 was keeping me in
there with the big boats. I managed to duck down between the two and
then get around the guy in front of me. As we got to the leeward mark,
a boat that had fouled was doing his turns at the mark. A blood
curdling Starboard! got him out of my way. I brought the boat as close
to the bouy and proceded to do a power tack from a beam reach. We
needed to get out of there, as the other 2 boats were right behind me.
The momentem got us out of their way and they had to sail further down
to get out of my bad air. We had a bit of a screwup on the tack, but were
able to pull it out without hitting the bouy or going into irons.
We had expected the wind to die, but no such luck. It was still honking
out there and even with the reef, we were WAY over canvassed. The
grinder was up to his ankles in water as we had the boat way over.
Water was coming over the side into the cockpit. Once the jib was trimmed
and he got up on the rail, it was a bit easier. I was trying to hold
the boat down by detuning the main and hiding in the turbulence of
a Catalina 27 in front. We still managed to spin out partially
4-5 times. This is there those fancy cross cabin jib sheeting systems
are worth their weight in gold. No such toys for us. We were holding
our own against the boats in front, but the guys behind me were
starting to reel us in. Then we got above the Catalina 27 because of
the overpointing I was doing to keep the boat upright, and had
to take the full brunt of the wind. The three of us were holding on for
dear life, spray flying over the cabin and drenching us.
Now were so high we could close reach to the finish. This allowed me to
ease the jib to the finish. We were able to hold off the charge from
behind. We beat our sister ship by 6 minutes and took 4th out of 10 in
the fleet. We missed 3rd by 25 seconds, or basically the amount I lost
when I chickened out at the start. We were out of 1st by a minute and a
half, so we have some work to do, but we had fun out there. We had a
good laugh, got some nice bumps and scapes, and we got good and wet.
What a way to cool off on a hot Thursday night.
john
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845.763 | Bigger headsails vs reefs | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Jul 29 1994 09:45 | 14 |
| Got smoked last night. DFL by 1 second !
When we got to the boat, it was blowing like stink. We went with the
100 and no reef this time. The weather was threating to sqawl at any
moment as it had all day at work. Unfortunely, it stayed at bay until
the last 2 miles. A beam reach croaked us with the small headsail, and
the wind blew out just in time for a 2 mile beat against the waves.
This is where we really got mauled. Thunder could be heard so we didn't
want to change sails. We made back a ton of time on the final leg in
the rain, but it was not enough. We were out of 1st by 14 minutes on
a 9.5 mile course. Needless to say, we will do better next week.
At least it was a nice sail back to the mooring after the race, and
the sails got a good washing.
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845.764 | Sail selection | SCHOOL::MCLAFFERTY | | Fri Jul 29 1994 15:06 | 11 |
| Re -.1:
I was really nervous when I showed up at the boat last night, between the
wind, the thunderstorm watch, and the harbormaster's advice on calling off the
race. But I got really concerned when the Captain insisted on removing the
working jib from the roller furler and installing the big Genny! But it
turned out he did the right thing, as we won the start, got passed by only
one boat the whole evening, (which we beat on corrected time). We won by just
one second!
Unfortunately, there are only 2 more races left before MerryMeeting leaves
for her new home on Lake Champlain. That's one less boat in your fleet, John.
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845.765 | ding it! | GLDOA::ROGERS | hard on the wind again | Sat Jul 30 1994 02:46 | 47 |
| Boy, I haven't sailed a dingy in seven years. I mean really
sailed...like last weekend in 20 gusting to 30 knots. I agreed to
skipper a boat in a gang of about eight of these things. Not too sure
what they were, looked somewhat like I remember a Flying Scot to be,
but smaller. Flying CC's or some such thing, CC with a wing on it
anyway. My crew had never sailed......oh boy. One old guy who knows
what to do, but at the pace of a 3/4 tonner and a newbie. The good
news? We were 400lb heavy. Now that balances a lot of wind and there
was a lot of wind. The bad news? ....boy or boy do you have to move
fast in a tack!
We did not win the start! The skipper keeps trying to tack this thing
like a Farr 40. and gets into irons again and again. Finally I figure
it out. Just jump across the damn boat and grab stuff from the other
side. We did get to the favored side first (I just knew there was a
reason this would not tack onto Starboard) Then wow ow wow.....planing
upwind! geez. I was feathering up and dumping and pumping main all the
time while yelling "trim" to my cohort. He got what that meant pretty
quick.
We got over the uphill mark and then I swear it seemed like 20knot
downhill. Not though, just seems that way when you are 1ft off the
water. One thing though, at what must be ten kn, the centerboard
begins to vibrate and then scales up to loud moan that make you feel
like you are riding an orbital sander.
My partner in crime askes "What happens if we don't get across in
time?" I answer, "I hope these things float."
"Oh"
then we get a demonstration, the team in front muffs the jibe at the
bottom and plop! turtle.......As we go by I ask the corner boat, "Can
we do anything?"
"Yeah! don't capsize!"
"YO!"
Well, we kept this up for about 1.5hrs and came in second. Man was I
beat but feeling pretty good. I had blown the last few tacks tho and
the concentration was wearing thin. So I suppose the gybe in
side the marina was not a cool idea, especially in 25knts.
But it seemed cool at the time...well the water was anyway.
And yes they do float.............
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845.766 | Warm & Windy are sure fixes for long races | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Aug 05 1994 14:19 | 56 |
| An interesting evening last night. Wind was 10-20 before the race. Went
with the 150 and a reef. One crew didn't make it, so it was only two
of us to run the boat. Most the boats looked like they were using 120%
and a full main.
Got a slow start as the line "looked weird" to me. It was square and
short, and I am sure it was fine, but something bugged me about it.
With two on board, it was probably best that we came late, as a couple
of boats did a port start and didn't have the speed to clear. Nobody
protested them, so off they went. We were DFL or in a close proxsimity
to it ;>( .
Same course from hell as last week, only with real wind, it was a lot
of fun. Got to the windward mark about 10th out of 12. My sistership
had 2 minutes on us, but blew it doing a luff job on a Calalina 27. We
just quietly snuck up. I then got behind her, but could not pass on a
beam reach as we were honoring cans every half mile and one good luff
on their part would have been curtains for us.
So I decided to play some head games, lowside aft, highside aft. Had the
guy looking all over the place for me (of course we always wave once
they find us) ! I finally saw an opening and started for it, but then
shut it down and detuned the boat. That next mark was a turning mark
upwind to starboard. I got a bit to the leeward and rounded upwind of
him immediately harding up. That allowed me to get windward with
enough room to stop any luffing he might try. We then started to motor
upwind heading higher and higher, out of the confused air of all the
boats in front of us. With only two of us, we were at a serious
disadvantage to some of the boats with 4-8 crew on board. By the time
we got to the windward mark, we had taken down two more boats.
The next leg was a reach/run. We loosen everything up (Reread those
ugly sails are fast sails in another note to understand why) and pulled
the reef out at the same time. This got us another boat. The last leg
was a beat/tight reach of appx 2 miles. I made the mistake of covering
the last boat I had just passed, thinking he owned me time. I found out
I owned him time later ;>( . With all that daycron flying, we were
having trouble. The main was backwinding to the point of bulgling the
wrong direction, though the traveler was all the way out. We had to
harden up the jib to the max just to spill gusts more easily.
We got beat to the finish line by 2 seconds by a hunter 30 with a crew
of 4 on board.
Overall, we took 7th out of 12. 3 minutes off the lead. Some more
weight would have been helpful, but I am pleased with the results as
our tacks are really working for us. I did notice a lot of the boats
had clean bottoms. Evidently people are serious about this fall race
series. And the sail back to the mooring was great with good wind to go
upwind on a hot summer night.
I've got to practice starts that should be good for another boat or so.
Adding telltales to the main will probably be helpful to me too, along
with tighting the dancing windvane. But we are in the ball park.
john
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845.767 | Is that the sun coming up? | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Aug 12 1994 14:39 | 59 |
| Last night's race was 10-12 knts from the west and diminishing.
The course was just a bit shorter than the previous week (ie skip the
first mark).
We got a excellant start, about 3rd place. We had 2 smooth tacks and
made a layline for the windward mark on starboard. At this point I
messed up. I thought I had clawed upwind and abreast of the #2 boat.
About 50 yards from the mark, the REAL #2 boat crosses on port and
disturbs my wind and concentration. I now couldn't lay the mark as
the current was taking us right into the mark. Another boat came down on
me and I thought it was curtains. He saw I was having trouble and tried
to duck to leeward figuring I was tacking off. I tacked to starboard, but he
didn't have the steam to make the mark and fell off to port and
retried.
I got out of the way and did a 720 in case anyone felt fouled. by the
time we got done with this, 3 boats had gotten by me, and my sister
ship had made up just about all the 300 yds I had put on her. Next was
a 2 mile downwind leg. We loosened everything up, and I sent the crew
forward once the sails were set to get rid of weight in the back. We
passed a Catalina 25. The wind started to veer to the SW, so we started
a close reach to an island about 2.5 miles out. When we started, we
had a 5 minute lead on my sistership. The Catalina 25 was giving me
grief as he kept trying to sail higher and I had to do the same thing
to block his air. Luckily it didn't hurt us too badly and we didn't lose
ground to the boats in front of us. The next leg down wind was wing
on wing. We were using the boat hook to get the Genoa out there. We
also adjusted the topping lift to support the boom. I then had a crew
sit against the boom to keep it out and full. We didn't gain any
ground, but out sistership was now a memory. At the leeward mark it was
dark (after the most incredible sunset in quite some time!). The wind
was about 5 knts and from the west meaning a 2.5 mile upwind beat.
We decided not to play follow the leader and stuck to the center of
the sound. Many boats got up near the shoreline, but there were no
convection winds. When we rounded the leeward mark, I sheeted in the main
only to watch the gooseneck go up 1.5 feet (forgot to recleat the
downhaul). Once done we all sat quietly on the leeward side sipping
a cool one listening to the newest Rolling Stones CD. I was sailing
using the jib telltails to play the occilations. At the end, we came
in at the finish on starboard, but had to give room to a giant party
boat using the channel to return home. About 50 yards from the finish
a port boat tacked right in front of us on leeward. I headed up a bit
as it was pitch black out and I couldn't see them clearly. They
beat us across the line by 1.5 seconds, but owed us 4 minutes. We came
in 5th out of 12 boats and beat our sistership by 24 minutes. The race
took 3.5 hours. Needless to say, it was really late by the time we
finished.
What did we learn?
1. Go for the good start, it pays and pays
2. Don't cut it too close at a windward mark, esspecially when the tide
is headed the wrong way.
3. In chop, do a bit of footing to get up to speed.
4. Ensure the crew is having fun on light air nights. It helps spell
the boredom that could lead to frustration.
5. Keep an eye on who is where on the course. Know who is near you
and how closely.
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845.768 | A really bad way to wash your chart covers... | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Aug 19 1994 14:27 | 91 |
| With the remains of a strong storm leaving, last night was an
interesting one. Wind was about 12-15 from the NNE with a bit of an
occilation. We were late getting to the race, but had time to put
in a reef and decide upon the 150. Most boats were using a 120 with or
without a reef.
I got a really bad start as we were still not settled down and had
lines everywhere. Once started, we went off to port instead of
following all the other boats. Once we tacked off to starboard and
crossed, we had picked off about 4 boats. The one to windward of us
has almost an indentical rating (2 sec faster) and was giving me
grief. I didn't have enough weight to strap the boat and go over the
top so I decided to go low as he was sailing way too high for the
second mark on a tight reach. I picked up nothing and more importantly,
2 boats behind us closed in.
At the turning mark we went wing on wing, the boat in front went low.
The wind let off a bit so we shook out the reef.
This was about a 1.5 mile run. At the end I was on a straight line
and ahead of the guy I was racing, but he switched the genoa and main,
and came up with a wind change. By the time we got to the actual mark,
he was aside of me, so I had to give him room at the mark. We both went
around a 42' Pearson B fleet boat who seem to be having trouble.
The boats from behind had lost some ground to us, but 1 boat had
made it all up and was going like stink. We owed them time, so we
knew we were in deep sneakers with them.
Again, I couldn't climb on the boat in front of me,as the wind was really
starting to blow as the sun went down with a heavy overcast killing
any lingering light. I decided to tack off. I faked the first time
and then tacked. The lead boat covered on me. I was mulling over a
tacking duel as my guys are really good, and he had 6 people on the
rail to keep moving, but I was afraid the boats behind were going to
make up too much time. So I tried falling off for
speed hoping to get ahead enough to tack back to stbd and give him
some grief, but he just parrelled me. Once back on starboard, a larger
30 footer came up from the leeward to get between us. Great! Just what
I need, some more turbulence. Oh well.....
Then the Pearson 42 shows up again. I am hoping this guy is going to
either duck the 3 of us and go for speed or tack off. (he is like 30
minutes and 2 fleets out of competition) No Sir, he
decides to just roll over us. The &^%# oxygen disappeared. So we
had to tack off. Now the wind and waves were getting big with some
real gusts kicking in the dark. We got partically knocked down on a
killer gust, Water came over the side and started filling the cockpit
so I pointed into the wind, but the gust kept veering, holding us over.
Luckily we had left the leeboards in "just in case".
As soon as the gust let go the wind was on the other side of the boat and
the 150 is starting to fill on the wrong side. with the crew trying to
come off the rail, I yanked the jib sheet out of the jam cleat and
tried to just put the boat into the wind so we drain some, but I
couldn't get the boat into irons. The gusts fill it on either side.
Finally,I decide to fall off until we clean up. The cockpit drains, the
lines are all put away again, the boat is prepared for it's next tack.
The depth sounder looks broke, but it's high tide and we know where we
are.
We finally get around the last mark and head for the finish. It is
blowing like stink. The boat is sitting low from all the wind and it is
moving through the night like a freight train. Once we finish, the
topping lift clip decides to mate with backstay adjuster. It was one
of those kind of nights. Came in DFL in 6th. missed 5th by 18 seconds.
The boat I was matchracing finished 3 minutes on us, so that knockdown
cost us dearly.
The depth sounder turned out to be a battery going dead. Once we
switched in the other one, all was fine.
As an aside, we have been using one of those Titan floating plastic
winch handles this season with good results. Last night though, the
crew told me when you REALLY load the winch (I have some big guys
cranking), the handle physically bends a bit. It does it's job, but
they said it is a bit unsettling the first couple of times.
What did we learn:
1. Monohulls do not punch through to leeward like a cat can. You are
better to go high if possible.
2. Next time some bozo tries and roll me, no more Mr Nice guy. Luff
City.
3. We need to leave 15 minutes earlier for the race. It has been too
close the past couple of weeks, and we do not have the time to get
our heads in tune.
4. It looks like I may need to break down and get a 120% for the boat.
There are times when the 150 is too much even with a reef,and a
100 will get you killed on the downwind leg.
|
845.769 | The race from H*ll, and back... | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Sep 02 1994 14:15 | 71 |
| Wind was howling on the ride to the ocean last night, looked like a
night to double reef and pray the 150 could be manhandled. When we got
there, it was a 5-7 knt wind. Not sure if it was going to come up or
die out, we went with the 150 and full main.
Start was in light airs(NNE). Got a so-so start. Stayed on Starboard and
scuffed a port tacker off on the mark. Got over to port, but there
was no wind, so we tacked again to starboard and got high of the
parade. Then we footed a bit. A lot of boats that were trying to go
straight for the turning mark were having trouble with a 42 footer
that sucking up whatever wind there was. I pointed to go above her
and was doing well when a zepher came through from behind. Now everyone
got to the mark with us on the outside. I decided to keep on going
before rounding for the downwind leg of 1.5 miles. The wind just
died as the sun set. There was a group of 5-6 boats cutting each
other's throats on the leg. We were outside enough not to get into it.
Out came the liquid livations, a CD in the diskplayer, the sheets all
loosened, the tiller entension added so I could steer from the cabin
top while holding the boom out.
A catalina 30 tried to get his girlfriend to talk to us while he
slowly went behind us and to our port to steal our wind. I immediately
luffed the b&^%$ 3 times in row. He got the hint, but I had let that
42fter by on the leeward side. No biggie. Then the sun went down and
there still was no wind. We were hoping for a cancellation, but the
big boats had turned the corner and were storming to windward in those
zephers. One by one the boats started dropping out including all the
entire J-24 fleet. We figured it was an easy way to gain some season
points, as we will be missing the last two races of the schedule.
The time passes and nobody is going anywhere. The crew takes a nap. Then
they take another nap. Then they go below for a real nap (I'm not
making this up, we are talking major league boring). I reel in a boat
in front of me, but lose it when I go to round a mark that didn't
need to be rounded. Then I caught it again only to lose it in a wind
shift that put them ahead of me. There we are:
out of beer
its dark
no wind
it is getting cold
we are surrounded by reefs and wrecks so numerous they don't even put
them indiviually on the charts.
Are we having a good time yet???
We are about half way into the race and 3 hours have past. A slight
breeze comes in and we start to move. I am able to get in front of that
boat one more time. I am able to cover enough to slow them down a bit,
but I owe them 12 sec/mile. The course is shortened and we finish the
5.02 mile race in 3 hrs, 20 minutes. We beat the boat behind us on
corrected time by 5 seconds. This is good as the week before we lost on
time by 14 seconds to them. The breeze is up to 5 knots, so I broad
reach the boat back the 4 miles to her mooring (the crew is below,
you guessed it, having a nap). Nice night, if a bit chilly (Yup, fall
is back in New England). We took 7th out of 12 boats (2 DNFs). Oh well,
at least we got to do some night racing in some tricky sections at
Sloooooooow speeds.
What did we learn this week:
Replacing the lower fiddle blocks with a Harken hex-a-rachet makes
main sheet handling much easier:
I have to really study which marks need to be honored. It probably cost
me at least 1 position.
I need to carry more beer just in case!
Time to start carrying a sweatshirt for night racing.
Next week we are the commitee boat. Should be fun.... NOT!
|
845.770 | McDonough race on Champlain + a sinking story | CONSLT::MCBRIDE | Flick of my BIC Scarecrow? | Mon Sep 12 1994 16:04 | 102 |
| We had an exciting race this weekend on Lake Champlain. It was the
McDonough race which is supposedly an overnighter though the courses
have gotten shorter in recent years. Saturday started out sunny and
breezy on the broad lake though the wind was not as strong in Shelburne
Bay at the start. The forecast was for diminishing winds as the low
moved North and East and the high slid in behind it. It ended up
building all day until we had a steady 22-25 with sustained gusts to
30+. The entire fleet started on port with us being able to reach the
line with speed and clear air. The wind was expected to veer to the
West but unfortunately it stayed out of the Northwest turning our reach
to Valcour Island into a beat. We started with a #2 an full main and
changed to a #3 as we were overpowered as soon as we hit the broad
lake. Tactically the fleet split with half staying on the Vermont side
and half going to New York. We made a half hearted move to New York
but opted for the middle of the lake which was mistake number 1. The
wind stayed fresh with flatter water closer to shore so the boats that
took their hitch early did well. We ended up getting lighter wind and
more chop in the middle of the lake and tanked our lead.
Rounding Valcour was uneventful but we were unable to recover the lead
from the two lead boats, a Sonar and a Wavelength 24. We owed both
boats enough time to be measured using a calendar :-(.
Downwind was a straight shot past the Four Brothers to Diamond Island.
We had as much cloth in the air as we could find. We were flying the
.75 and a blooper and absolutely trucking. The blooper definitely helped
us make up some but we needed to overtake and bury the two boats in
front to have a prayer. It was a long leg so we had a chance granted a
slim one.
The wind finally started to veer to the West making our broad reach a
beam reach so we had to strike the blooper. As it veered it continued
to build and we were soon surfing at a steady 8.5-9 kts. The speedo
touched 10.5 briefly which was quite exciting! The farther we went
down the lake the more the wind veered. Boats that stayed closer to
shore did not get the shift as much as we did and they were able to go
down when they needed to but pretty much held their course. I was at
the helm for this and kept trying to come up in the lulls as we had a
stiuation with the four brothers. The first broach brought us back to
reality and we started talking about reaching with the #1.
Finally when it was no longer possible to clear the western most of the
Four Brothers, we doused the chute and put up the #1 and power reached
down the lake. We were still doing 8.5 - 9.0 kts but ride the was better
and we had more maneuverability. Our bow person was at the leeward
rail trying to get the spin halyard back aroun the bow when we broached
the second time. He thought it was great fun and thanked us for
luffing the sail and making his job easier! He thought we were trying
to help him out. We thought we lost him as the rail and him both were
under as we rounded up. More attention was definitely needed on spilling
the sails before anything serious happened.
We exchanged the #1 for the 1.5oz chute and gained a little speed after
we had reached up some. Not too soon after we had set the 1.5, the
breeze lightened and we did a peel exchanging it for the .75 again. we
hmade up some time on the leaders and put track on the folks behind us
until we got to Split Rock.
The leaders fell off toward the Vermont side and came to a halt or
seemingly so. We tried to sneek down the New york side but the wind
was even lighter and really fluky. This also let the rest of the fleet
scream down on us as we duffed around trying to find some breeze. If
we hadn't messed up at Valcour, we were certainly doing a good job of
it down here. The boats on the Vermont side had light winds but at leat
they had wind from a steady direction. The windex was doing 360s as
the breeze swirled around as it came down the cliffs. Life definitely
sucked at that moment. We ghosted around Diamond Island and tried to
go back up the New York side as it seemed the breeze was filling in.
We just couldn't get to it. Meanwhile the rest of the world sailed off
the end of the earth. We finally quit screwing around and headed out
and followed the leaders home.
Once out of the Narrows, the breeze freshened again back up to 20-25
kts. We power reached back up the lake and caught two boats but we
still owed them a month. It was a moral victory at least. We screamed
up the lake under a quarter moon and bright stars. At least it was a
nice night.
We finished at around 10:30 or about 12 hours after we started. Three
hours ahead of the usual time so it was definitely a fast race. We
ended up 5th out of 6th on corrected times. Overall, a pretty poor
showing. The crew work was great all day. Tactically, we gave the
race away by not covering our competition as we said we would.
Sunday AM was even more exciting than the race though. It seems the
anti-siphon loop in the bilge pump was clogged and merrily filled the
boat all night. As I was backing out of my friend's driveway, he came
running out and jumped in the car screaming his boat was sinking and we
needed to get to the club fast! We raced down there to find the boat
bow down a lot but there was still some counter showing. A look below
found water up to the cushions and generally a real mess. The oil in
the water announced the engine was flooded and a look in the lazarette
showed the batteries awash. We started hand pumping and bailing with
buckets. The rate of flow was not that great so we opted to have her
towed in where there was a gas powered pump available. This drained
the boat quickly enough and the offending bilge pump was stoppered.
We ended up getting it towed up to the Shelburne Shipyard where we were
greeted with "Oh no Tony! Not again!!!" Last year the head was left
open and the same thing happened only there was more water in the
boat that time. It will be pulled this week and the engine dried out
etc. Never a dull moment that's for sure.
|
845.771 | | NOVA::FINNERTY | lies, damned lies, and the CAPM | Thu Sep 15 1994 11:16 | 6 |
|
re: batteries awash
I've always wondered about the implications of that. Isn't that
dangerous?
|
845.772 | Is that why they put 'em at the top? | WRKSYS::SCHUMANN | UHF computers | Thu Sep 15 1994 12:01 | 5 |
| >> I've always wondered about the implications of that. Isn't that
>> dangerous?
Not until it reaches the terminals :-)
|
845.773 | | CONSLT::MCBRIDE | Flick of my BIC Scarecrow? | Thu Sep 15 1994 18:50 | 4 |
| Can be but there were no fumes. They had not quite submerged yet.
Still quite a mess though.
Brian
|
845.774 | No wind racing is still better than overtime... | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Sep 16 1994 10:29 | 52 |
| Last night winds forcasted 10-15 ene, a direction that could bring a
big blow. Got a note from DC saying the night before was windless city.
Had a bunch of people I committed rides to on board. with 5 of us, I
figure we got lots of meat. No way we can lose when the wind kicks in.
Get to the boat and there is zip out there. Maybe 4-5 in puffs. Oh NO!!!!
At the start, the line is a straight line starboard run for the mark
with wind from abeam. The line was really short too. EVERYONE piled
into the start as the front guys stopped, and then couldn't get going
again. The people behind them had nowhere to go, and then couldn't
get started again when it opened up a bit. But at 1 knt, just
some light bumping. It wasn't even worth fending off. Had some guy
try to roll me so I headed him up and left him. This boat foots
terrible, but she sure can climb.
Get to the first mark and try to roll a larger boat. He doesn't like
it and we go up... up... and up away from the next mark which is
a broad reach. I finally break it off and go low. A Catalina 25 rolls
me to windward and I can't do much about it. Then a 30 footer starts
a run from leeward at me. Out comes the
refreshments and the heaviest metal rock and roll CD I own. We always
turn this on in light airs when people get too close. It works. The
noise makes them back off faster then having Jimmie Swagart on the
transom trying to save that fleet of sinners ;>)
I had everyone on the leeward side and centered, loosened up the
sheets and start heading down whenever I had a puff, and reaching
upward when it got light. by the next mark we had caught the 5 boats
in front of us.
Next was a 2.3 mile beat to Marblehead and the wind is dying. The two
boats in front of me start a luffing match so I foot off and get some
air. We are partying, making lots of noise and generally having a good
time, so they write us off. We are able to move just ahead of both of them
when they stopped playing games and starting going fast again. Fast is
a relative term. The wind is about 3 knts, then 2 knts, then its zepher
time.
The boat stops. I pull out the flash light and do an inspection for
lobster lines. None found. the main is full, but the jib is backwinded.
we can do circles (have too, the rudder is not working) and the sails
never swap. Real twilight zone stuff.... All I could figure is the
lack of wind a the current were playing games. I call for the jib
to be dropped to see if I can get some forward motion. We get a bit
of movement, so I call to put the jib back up. Bad move. Boat stops
and does another circle. I call for the jib to be dropped again. It
is dropping nicely on the deck. After 1.5 hours we have moved 150
yards, and have almost 2 miles to go. Seeing how I had to be back at
work today, we retired. Only 3 of the 12 boats finished in our class.
Oh well, there is always next week.
|
845.775 | Farewell | JUPITR::KEENAN | | Thu Sep 29 1994 12:26 | 13 |
| Now it's my turn to say goodbye. I'm going to Quantum next week with
the sale of the storage business. My network link to this notesfile
will be cut.
I've enjoyed this notesfile, especially this racing note. I'm
really going to miss bashing Dennis Conner and the other big
shots during the next America's Cup.
I wish everyone who remains at DEC the best of luck.
Regards,
Paul
|
845.776 | Jubilee Racing meeting is tonight | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Thu May 11 1995 14:23 | 12 |
|
Meeting at Jubilee Yacht Club in Beverly at 19:00 tonight for
anyone interested in rac'n there this summer. You do not have to
be a member (I'm not!).. According to the flyer I saw, there is coupon for 1
free race in the Mass Bay PHRF book this year. This is to try and
get sailors out there.
Spring rac'n starts next thursday night. Judging by the dearth of
boats bobbing, I think a lot of boats are going in the next 7
days.
If you attend, be sure to say Hi!
|
845.777 | | TINCUP::CLAFLIN | | Thu May 11 1995 16:24 | 5 |
| Just out of couriosity, does anyone have the PHRF for a 1965 Choey Lee B30
ketch, with and without spinaker, 120 roller reef jib?
Doug
dtn 592-4787
|
845.778 | Any handicappers in the audience? | DELNI::CARTER | | Thu May 11 1995 17:59 | 20 |
| Doug,
If the PHRF rating exists for that vessel, I'm sure one of our intrepid
fellow noters can help, when he finishes sanding out last weekends paint
blobs.
Rumor has it one of comrades is a handicapper in a fleet somewhere
south of Boston, north of Scituate.
To make life easier for the handicapper, do you have above decks roller
furling? A folding or feathering prop? Be sure to request a credit if
you have the above deck furler, and also request your credit for your
largest headsail being smaller than 135%. All of this assumes you have
no exotic cloth in your sails. Dacron and mylar are okay, but Kevlar,
Spectra are not. With exotic materials, no credit.
Is your spinnaker asymetrical, or symetrical? Standard size
asymetrical chute flown without a pole and not flown from a sprit nets
you a nine second credit on your racing handicap.
djc
|
845.779 | | UNIFIX::BERENS | Alan Berens | Thu May 11 1995 18:11 | 9 |
| re .778:
Does this mean we can reopen the "PHRF ratings are/are not fair"
argument?
signed,
I'm going cruising again
|
845.780 | I know the answer; 1-design | SANDZ::SANDZ::SAMPSON | Driven by the wind | Fri May 12 1995 10:14 | 4 |
| While you're looking up ratings Sc.....Sander, what's the rating
for an F-27, all Dacron, Symmectrical spinnaker? ;^)
Geoff
|
845.781 | What?!!!! Spend $18 for a ratings manual, Naaaaaa | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri May 12 1995 14:34 | 9 |
| Call US sailing at 401 849-5200 and tell em you need a rating.
They will look it up on the computer and never ask for a membership
number.
Regards
john
|
845.782 | Handicapped? I prefer Speed-Challenged. | SANDZ::WAGNER | | Fri May 12 1995 15:32 | 31 |
|
Is there sailing north of Scituate? HooHooHooo
OK I have a Cheoy Lee 35, rates 189. Cheoy Lee Clipper 36; 258.
Cheoy Lee Offshore 31, 234. Let's go with that.
135% Jib, add 3 seconds. 6 more for the Recreational allowance,
which stipulates roller furling, 1 jib 150% or less, 1 jib 110% or
more. No Kevlar, Tedlar, carbon, Spectra, whatever, but most Mylar
mixes OK.
What else... solid prop? Add 6 sec for 2 blade, 9 for 3 blade.
Differences from designer's rig numbers will change the rating. As will
over- or undersized sails.
What will not help? Rough bottom, unfair foils, bad layout, too
much junk in the cabin (guilty!) or whining to your handicapper.
Secrets? Well, you can extend your boom, buy a bigger main, very
small penalty. Good around those vapor-days in Boston. Lay out your
deck, upgrade winches and blocks, add instruments, no charge. Send a
man over the side and scrub the scuzz of the bottom.
Fairness; yeah well capitalism sucks too. Nowadays we work with the
IMS folks pretty closely, since they actually measure things. If you
don't take current, wind, waves, everything else about the race, into
the results, somebody gets shafted. Sorry.
Funny, the guys picking up the metal hardly ever gripe!!
Scott, racing crew on a Valiant.
|
845.783 | | TINCUP::CLAFLIN | | Fri May 12 1995 16:20 | 38 |
| Thanks, I will call and check just for grins. Alan, the only time I ever expect
that you and I would race, is for the last spot in a quiet harbor. The it is
winner takes all and to he** with the PHRF.
I have a tendency to race and loose to every boat on the water, independent of
what direction they are going.
Here is my take for a first pass rating.
Choey Lee Clipper 36 258
bigger and about the same vintage as the B30
Choey Lee Offshore 30 234
same size, newer and a Sloop?
So getting sloppy, the B30 ketch falls in the middle ~246
jib +3
recreation +6
2 blade prop +3
rotten captain and helm +0
head strong first mate +0
we may yet decide on who is who.
4 year old crewmemeber +10 or more
Tells me I am running around 260 without Jessica. Could eaily be over
300 with Jessica. I gues now we know why I cruise.
cloth (canvas, probably still have hemp lines too, shigh).
the mizzen is pretty good though. I bought a used one last
year. Only a couple of years old.
deck equipment, orginal antique
winches are custom Choey Lee non tailing.
bottom fairness
not too bad, especailly if you consider that the red lead
anti fouling paint is still holding up just fine from 1966.
|
845.784 | | POBOX::ROGERS | hard on the wind again | Fri May 12 1995 19:24 | 5 |
| What is the old saying? "Two boats hull up on the same horizon and its
a race!"
Rod, (who's Assassin rates 84)
|
845.785 | Actually Alan has entered a race or two... | UNIFIX::FRENCH | Bill French 381-1859 | Mon May 15 1995 09:59 | 10 |
| > Alan, the only time I ever expect
> that you and I would race, is for the last spot in a quiet harbor.
Be the truth known, Alan has been known to actually enter a race or
two. If you call a time measured passage from Provincetown to Tenants
Harbor a race, that is. Anything to get the boat onto it's Rockland
Mooring, right Alan?
Bill
|
845.786 | Fetch me another cabinkid | COMETZ::WAGNER | | Mon May 15 1995 11:49 | 7 |
|
Give yourself 3 more seconds for the prop. And teach the 4 year old
how to do the deckwork, teach her to swim and hand her a scrubpad. Use
the energy of youth while you've got it!
Queeg
|
845.787 | Friday night bumper-boats on the Charles | NOVA::FINNERTY | Oracle Rdb Engineering | Mon May 15 1995 15:53 | 44 |
|
I had an "interesting" time racing on Friday night. I'm racing Mercs
down on the Charles on Friday nights or Sunday afternoons. The Friday
night series is known as the "informals", which means that there are no
protest meetings and they let anyone across the starting line, whether
or not they understand when they're on port tack. The Sunday series is
less well attended, but to qualify you have to demonstrate a good
working knowledge of the racing rules.
Friday night had ghosting conditions, and 16 boats of varying levels of
experience. If anyone had brought beer, we could have had a fine raft
up...
On the first start I approached on port and tacked onto the starboard
lay line for an ideal start at the favored pin end. Right out of the
book on that one. I still haven't figured out how to make the Merc
accelerate after the start as well as the guys who've been sailing
these things for years, so I found myself behind about 4 boats after
the reach leg, and lost another 4 positions when I forgot to raise the
centerboard downwind, for a middle-of-the-fleet finish.
On two of the subsequent three races, my calls of "starboard...
Starboard... STARBOARD!!" were to no avail. Two collisions of the
"minor but definately avoidable" variety in which I was certainly in
the right but wound up taking myself out of the race to prove it. Next
time I'll either stick with the Sunday races, or pass astern and just
graze their rudder... grrr...
The final race I tried to tack onto the starboard parade again, but the
winds were so light that I miscalculated the amount of time it would
take to get back up to speed, and wound up getting overridden and lost
beneath a sea of barely moving dacron. That was a long race. A much
better idea in ghosting conditions would have been to swoop to leeward
on starboard to maintain speed as much as possible... although there
were 15 other boats trying to do that, and separating from the fleet
seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
I've rediscovered how much fun dink sailing is. It's way more
demanding than sailing "big" boats... and they get in 4 races/night.
havin' fun.
/jim
|
845.788 | | TINCUP::CLAFLIN | | Mon May 15 1995 17:44 | 11 |
| My real trouble with Jessica, is that she likes the helm. In another couple of
years, she will relegate me! to the jib sheets and scullery work. The young
have now respect.
3 seonds added to my estiamted 260. I guess I will be foreced to race scratch.
Well Amy will be getting the boat wet in a couple more weeks. Wish it were me
instead of she. Bummer, but I really do like working in boat yards in the
spring.
Doug
|
845.789 | Stop playing with that seacock or you'll go blind | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri May 19 1995 10:45 | 54 |
| First race of the season last night. Got there early and put a new
windex on the mast & headed out.
For the year, I have a new 110, a recut 150%, and we have added 2 to
the crew for a total of 5 although we did have 1 no show last night.
It looked like a wash out with the bay fogged in and very little wind.
Out to the course we go. Lots of boats, a big surprise as it seems
everyplace is running really late this year. At the start, most boats
come in on port, but I use a starboard run. I had noticed most boats
are actually 20-30 seconds late at the line, so I got a bit aggressive
getting to the line with a tide that could drag me over early. This
worked well as I shut down all the other boats cept of 1 that
got by me on the port end. Another 40 yards and I tacked off.
Wind from the east was light. Fog bank had moved off the bay, but was
only about 2-3 miles out. The wind started dying, so we rode a
zepher or two to the port side near shore with the lead boat while
everyone else went stboard. After about 40 minutes of bobbing we had
2nd with the lead boat just ahead of us and the rest of the fleet
was way, way behind. The wind continued to die. The B boats in front
of us just stopped. We used all the light air tricks to no avail. The
boats from behind started reeling us in. Once they got to the first
turning mark they too stopped. So we settled in for the night with
no wind (the windex going round&round), broke out the beers and put
in a CD. This calm attitude got us past 3 B boats who then quit.
The lead boat was putting distance on us, but there wasn't much we
could do. It is a flyweight boat with a rating you cannot beat on
light air evenings. One by one the boats behind us quit. We decided
to do some character building and pressed on. Main trick was keeping
steerage so that one could use any puff or zepher that came by. The
new windex with reflexive tape on the bottom of the vanes/indicators
is really nice at night.
hour and half later, 1 mile upwind, 1.5 to go before the shortened
finish line. A light air from the coast came in, so we shifted sails
and weight. The boat started to move. Not fast, but 1 knt is better
than the 600 ft/hr we were doing. Great, we may just get done tonight
yet. Steer through the shoals and there's the committee boat. The wind
is increasing, maybe up to 2 kts now, Wow!!! Glad we held out. We are
going for 2nd!!!! Then the race commitee radios C fleet is cancelled
because of time. Darn! The lead boat missed by 4.5 minutes making the
finish. Oh well, crank up the motor, douse the sails, and lets go home.
Holding out to the end meant no food left at the club by the time we
got in, but like I said, "character building time".
The extra weight did not hurt us on the lightest of nights, so I can't
wait for a blow. The recut 150% really lets us point in light airs.
The cockpit lead lines allowed us to adjust halyard tension without a
lot of moving around. And the new crew is as goofy as we are, so
the group dynamics are working well together.
john
|
845.790 | when the ocean is not a level playing field | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Jun 23 1995 14:11 | 130 |
|
Last night was a 10 knt from the South, 2-3 ft swell, no clouds
evening. 12 boats in our class. 4 of us on board.
We were running a bit late so we cast off and headed for the race
course. Up went the main, followed by the 150%. About 2 feet from the
top, the snap shackle let go. The sail came sliding right back down on
it's hanks. quickly two of us grabbed it as it tried to go under the
boat and secured it. Then we quickly got the mainsail down and I got
harnessed up and winched up the mast on the main halyard. Moving down
Salem channel while up 30 ft in the air, I was glad I had spent all that
money on new rigging this year ;>) .
I grabbed the stray halyard and brought it down with me. Up went the
main, followed by the 150%. We got to the starting line with about 6
minutes to go (Sails and engine WFO).
Got a good start. I was headed for the windward pin, but a Huge
opening appeared at the center and I risked it. Just to leeward and
forward a luffing match between two boats started. I steered high and
clear and with 50 seconds to go, we sheeted the sails in. The boat to
leeward finally noticed me and went for a defensive luff, but I had left
plenty of room to luff up and roll over him. Excellant start in 3rd and
only about 10-sec late at the line.
I established a cover on the boat to leeward and started pulling away
from most the boats as I had clean air. I held on until everyone who
could be trouble had tacked off. I then tacked off and started on a Port
run. Trying to do 5 things at one time, I dropped the winch overboard.
It was floating like they say it would, but we were in this race so
there was no way I was turning around. (If you are in last, you go after
it as it makes a great excuse).
Wind was holding 10 knts and the boat felt good. With the swells out
there, I didn't try to overpoint and really kept an eye on the
telltales. At the next meeting for the first windward mark (there were 3
in the race), we let a 32 footer get away and then squeezed past a 30
footer. I overstood the mark by 20-30 feet, rolled tacked and took off
for the mark. As I got there, it was a long percession to the next mark
on a tight reach on starboard. I started heading up for clear air when I
saw a another luffing match where one boat tried to roll another from
windward. I dropped down and passed both from the leeward.
As we got close to the pin, I came back up and tried to get past the
boat in front of me while holding off the two bigger boats behind that
were now moving fast as the reached toward the mark. I asked twice for
room at the mark, but was ignored. The guy then really started to point
as we headed straight up wind after this starboard rounding. Seeing a
procession forming, we immediately tacked off to port with an excellant
roll tack. We were able to stay out of the way of the people behind us.
We headed up on port for about 50 yds and roll tacked again. 3 minutes
later and we knew it was the right move. Everyone was eatting stale air
in front of them except for us. We were able to catch back up and the
move ahead of the line we had been in, and we were further upwind!
A Catalina 30 watched us and then tried the same move, but I put a
cover on them and they fell off. By the next tack we had 150-200 yrd
lead on the pack and were in 3rd. Using the same techniques as above we
stretched it out playing the middle of the course, but never inline with
boats above. The worked well as the wind lightened a bit. One of the
crew pointed out we were just about at the true turning mark.
At that turning mark near mablehead, a fleet of dingies was coming from
the other direction for the same mark. This had happened in our last
race 3 weeks ago. The wind kept falling. We stayed on port until we got
close to them. I didn't want to foul one of them, nor eat their bad air.
This was a bad move. I had the layline, but then the wind went down to
about 3-4 knts and the incoming current was fierce. I got right next to
the bouy, put had to bail out, else I was going to tag the mark. I
didn't have enough momentium to squeeze by. two tacks cost us about 1
minute as we had to get up to speed on the first one to have energy to
turn the boat. Everyone behind caught up, but only about 1/3 the
distance. Funny, but everyone behind us also misjudged the current and
had trouble turning the mark. We then rounded and set off on a reach for
Misery Island. We left everyone like they were standing still. I had
half the crew on the bow to lift the stern, and I vanged the boom after
putting plenty of slack in the main via the topping lift. We caught up
with the 1st & 2nd place boats and everyone else was but a speck,
spinakers and all. I then went to pass a Calber 40 at the turning mark
from the outside. At this point, the wind stopped. After a couple of
minutes the wind came back about 5 knts, but it had backed around from
behind us. While we bobbed, everyone we had worked so hard to beat
upwind, simply sailed right up to us. Just as they caught us we too got
some wind. Unfortunely, they had monenteum and we were crawling to begin
with. That final leg had 4 boats side by side by side by side going for
the finish. A Corado 25 with a light crew ate the rest alive. Later they
were DSQ. Not sure why. Anyways, because everyone caught up, it came
down to ratings.
Of course 2 minutes after we finished, the wind came up from the SW.
So we sailed home, right up to the mooring field and took down the
sails in the dark. Just as the main was unhooked the outboard died and
refused to restart. With a rock jetty on one side an a oil barge on the
other, this was not my night. I called to get an anchor ready to be
dropped while the rest of the crew got the sail reset, but luckily the
motor finally refired. After putting the boat away, we hopped on the
inflatible for the ride to the marina. 20 feet out it's engine died, but
again I got it to refire. The two had been sitting for about 3 weeks, so
that may have had something to do with it.
We ended up with a 4th. Not bad, but if it hadn't been for the Mother
Nature letting us down, we would have had 3rd. ;>(
What did we learn?:
1. Even when running late, do not rush, it will only get you in trouble.
2. The recut of the 150% and a new 110 from a good sailmaker (Doyle in
this case) can take you from the back of the pack to the front pretty
easily and it's tons more fun up there [ie you get what you pay for].
3. No matter how hard you try, mother nature can get you. Deal with it,
heck it is only a sport.
4. Look for luffing matches between 2 other boats as a way to kill two
birds... er boats with 1 stone.
5. If you find a winch handle bobbing in Salem Sound, It's mine...
6. Guys who go to the top the mast on A/C boats now have even more of
my respect.
7. The crew is really starting to gel. By most experiences crewmember
was on holiday, and I had a DECCIE on board who was visiting from
overseas. Everyone had new jobs, and did them very, very well. It
is hard not to yell when things go bad, but if you don't, the
crew knows what to do. The crew does joke that the obsenity in
my vocabulary is more pronouced in tight situations than when we
are smoking everyone, so I still have a ways to go.
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845.791 | What's a roll tack | TINCUP::CLAFLIN | | Fri Jun 23 1995 16:08 | 7 |
| I don't race and my vocaulary is limited please explain.
Incidently John, I enjoy these stories of the evening warriors. With my move
to Colorado this summer is pretty dry until the trip DownEast in August.
Doug
dtn 592-4787
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845.792 | | MOVIES::WIDDOWSON | Brought to you from an F64 disk | Sat Jun 24 1995 06:13 | 5 |
| > The crew does joke that the obsenity in
> my vocabulary is more pronouced in tight situations
Yea, I learned a lot of dialectual french like that when sailing off
Marseille....:-)
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845.793 | One-design modification unsportsmanlike? | NOVA::FINNERTY | Oracle Rdb Engineering | Mon Jun 26 1995 08:54 | 39 |
|
I need some opinions;
In a one-design fleet, is it legal and ethical to make rigging
modifications as long as there is no class rule explicitly prohibiting
this?
The mercs that I race down on the Charles have no traveller, and have
no way to adjust the jib lead position. The lack of a traveller means,
among other things, that the only way to prevent the mainsail leech
from becoming overtight is to sail with the boom way off the
centerline. This, in turn, makes for lousy pointing. This is
compounded by the fact that the fixed fairlead for the jib is too far
back, making the jib foot as tight as a drum while the head luffs.
I've come up with some simple and inexpensive modifications to the rig
that largely circumvent these problems, and allow me to adjust the lead
angle as well as trim the boom to the centerline without adding
downward pull on the boom. As a result, I can outpoint the fleet.
I experimented with this last Friday, during the "informal" races (no
protest meetings). At the windward mark I was ahead by about 10 boat
lengths, and coasted around for an easy win. I don't know how much the
new rigging helped, but it sure didn't hurt any.
I've looked through the USYRU racing rules, and I don't see any rule
that I might be breaking by doing this. As far as I can tell, there
are no written class rules for the merc, either. I *think* that my
modifications are legal. I'm less sure that this is considered a
sportsmanlike modification, since the idea of racing in one-designs is
to make it a test of sailing ability.
...on the other hand, I conceived of these modifications as a result of
some knowledge about sail trim that other skippers in the fleet may not
have, plus a bit of inventiveness to solve the problem with a few
shackles and lines. Does that constitute unsportsmanship, or is it
just better sailing ability and knowledge?
/jim
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845.794 | There are class rules | STAR::KENNEY | | Mon Jun 26 1995 09:34 | 19 |
| Jim,
Actually, there are written rules for the class. I have an online
copy that I scanned from the originals that were in use. I did that
about the time the class association dissolved for the second of third
time. At the time the folks a Community in Boston were the most
insistant that the boats remain close to factory stock.
About this time the club in Lowell had a memember who had faired
out the bottom, and tweaked up the rigging. He could easily point
much higher then any other boat. The rules forced the removal of most
of the goodies. The largest argument against doing it was that it was
not in keeping with the spirit of the class. I am not saying don't
tinker but don't be surprised when someone complains. Remember most of
the folks you are sailing against may not have the know how or funds to
tinker.
Forrest
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845.795 | ...spirit of the class | NOVA::FINNERTY | Oracle Rdb Engineering | Mon Jun 26 1995 10:01 | 19 |
|
re: funds to tinker
The modifications cost a total of about $10.
re: spirit of the class
Yes, that's what concerns me. But there is also a need to be
specific about what is and is not legal. I could, in principle,
make the modifications entirely out of rope. It would look
kludgey, but it would probably work. Would that be legal? If
not, then could I have my crew *hold* the rope in place instead
of making it fast? Surely (?) that would have to be legal.
If you still have a copy of the class rules online, please forward them
to me.
/jim
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845.796 | roll tack | STARCH::HAGERMAN | Flames to /dev/null | Mon Jun 26 1995 18:10 | 15 |
| A roll tack is (in a dinghy) when you use body movement and a good
yank on the sheet to maintain speed during a tack. Let the boat
roll a bit to leeward, then hike really hard and yank. After the boom
comes across you duck under it, hopefully without falling out on
the new leeward side.
I think that in the case of most keelboats the concept is somewhat
imaginary because the crew weight is a fairly small effect.
Incidently, the "kinetics" (i.e. body motion) rules prohibit you from
exiting a tack going faster than you went in. This is because with
small boats you can get enough energy into the boat with a roll tack
that you speed up.
Doug.
|
845.797 | how much rudder action? | NOVA::FINNERTY | Oracle Rdb Engineering | Tue Jun 27 1995 10:29 | 4 |
|
do you put the tiller hard over during a roll tack, or do you let the
initial roll to leeward & overtrim of the main do most of the work
of rounding you up?
|
845.798 | more on roll tacks | STARCH::HAGERMAN | Flames to /dev/null | Wed Jun 28 1995 00:48 | 14 |
| "All racing boats that are affected by crew weight benefit
from roll tacking. As the boat is brought into the wind, the crew
should hike on the initially windward side. As the boat rolls to
windward, the apparent wind shifts aft, permitting the sails to
remain functional until the boat is almost head to wind. As the
boat passes head to wind, the crew should shift rapidly to a hiking
position on the new windward side. By this means the boat is rolled
in the opposite direction. The apparent wind is again shifted aft,
so the sails begin to function as soon as the boat passes head to wind.
The boat should be turned smoothly, with minimal rudder action
at first and more later, as required. A gradual turn preserves speed;
a rapid turn dissipates it."
- Stuart Walker, Advanced Racing Tactics.
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845.799 | | NOVA::FINNERTY | Oracle Rdb Engineering | Wed Jun 28 1995 14:44 | 16 |
|
>> As the boat is brought into the wind, the crew should hike on the
>> initially windward side.
...I think you roll it to leeward first to start the boat rounding up,
don't you? i.e.:
- lean into the center to get the boat to heel more to leeward
and begin to round up, then
- hike way out to windward, overtrimming the mainsheet while
putting the tiller extension to leeward as smoothly as possible,
as required
- duck! (or swim) -- scramble to the high side and hike, keeping
the main in tight. Letting the jib backwind is probably a bad
idea under the circumstances.
- ease back to normal trim
|
845.800 | | STARCH::HAGERMAN | Flames to /dev/null | Wed Jul 05 1995 16:21 | 3 |
| Yes. Also, the idea is to let the boat come over towards you until
the originally windward side rail is in the water before ducking
under the boom...
|
845.801 | Light air is no fun | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Jul 07 1995 13:18 | 48 |
|
Last week, June 28 there was zip for wind. The course was a short twice
around the closest 3 cans for a total of 2.5 miles. 16 boats starting in
C fleet.
Prepping for the gun it took almost 7 minutes to get from one side of
the starting line to the other. Got some momentuim and started for the
line. Hit it on time, but two clowns came in on port 3 boats down from
us and didn't have the power to tack off, fall off, or dissappear. That
had 4 of us tacking off to keep the scraping hulls.
After that we kept on port. I should of tacked off,as we kept eating
the wind of two boats in front of me. At the first windward mark I
tried going up and around the boat in front of me with a bit of
success, on the next mark, a gybe mark, I was on the outside and the
boat covered and pulled abreast of me .
I couldn't get behind him to hail him for room at the leeward mark so
I snuck up real close to him to make him feel real uncomfortable for
the leg. As we got to the leeward mark I moved outside giving him
some breathing room. As the mark came up, I came in much more shallow
and accellerated in the light airs taking both the boat and the guy
in front of him on inside. I then steered a stupid course and gave it
back on the way to the windward mark. At the windward mark, there was a
lot of yelling as some of these folks do not understand right of way
rules.
This time we started outside but quickly ducked inside of our "pal".
One of my asute crew then mentioned that the boats in front of us
were wing on wing, but he thought the main and genny would be reversed.
The angle as such that keeping the main out was a bit more problematic
to do this.
Having nothing to lose we tried it. I stationed person to sit in the
main as the topping lift has taking the load. This allowed us to
really squirt past two boats at the next gybe mark. It was almost 3
but they got us by 2 seconds at the end by heading up for some speed.
Overall we took 6th after 2 boats were DSQed for the start and the
windward mark transgressions.
I was not really happy with my sailing as I had let a couple of boats
go after nailing them. Seems like it takes me 5 minutes to calm down
after a major screwup on the course by other boats that affect us. I
need to work on this. I am starting to lean on the crew's insight
as they keep coming up with better and better ideas to try and those
ideas seem to be working. Hard work going from a type X to a type Y
captain.
|
845.802 | Rac'n when the winds pipes up | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Jul 07 1995 14:32 | 127 |
| Last night was the opposite of the week before. 15 knots puffing to 17
with seas 2-3 in the sound and 2-4 outside. Temps about 80 but cooling
as the sun set.
1st major decision was whether to use the 110 or the 150. Since the wind
was from the south, we ussually get a light air as the sun goes down,
and we had 4 BIG guys on board, we went with the 150.
One crewmember showed up with dinner for all to which the crew was most
appreciative. I think this is an insurance policy should they ever
arrive late again, that I will not leave the marina on time less I have
a mutiny on my hands. ;>)
The course was just short of taking us to the Azores. A long, long
course starting up wind and then reaching maybe 4 miles before a 2 mile
upwind slog out of Salem sound around Cat Island and back to Beverly.
I got a running start but was too late revving her up for the start at
1 minute. (these monohulls just don't accellerate like Catamarans in
heavy airs). This put me in next to last (pushed a port tack boat below
us). With the wind blowing, everyone was hanging on. Went up about 40
yards and tacked onto port. Unfortunetly I had one guy in front and
another ahead of him to windward. I couldn't get clean air even with
the wind howling. 100 yards from the mark, I knew we didn't have it and
the rest of the fleet as coming down hard from above. So we tacked onto
Starboard and had some fun with them. After going a bit high, we tacked
again and tight reached for the mark. We had a drag race going on with
2 boats in front of us and 1 just behind. At the next turning mark
(port gybe) I yelled and got room at the mark as I had put myself
inside of these guys. Now we were off for Bakers Island and a reach. 4
boats were fighting it out ranging from a 22ft to a 30fter.
I went high to guard
my position and when I got up high enough, I came down on the 22' in
front and leeward of us. He tried to luff, but I was way too high to
let him stop me. I then tried to use him a pick on the hunter 30 behind
me should he try to go low. For the entire ride I was throwing luffs at
him every time he tried to pass. We were getting far away from the rest
of the fleet and I thought maybe I had overdone guarding my position,
but he finally decided to follow for a while, so I took us both back
down on course and we were right where we started. At the turning mark,
I had a boat on port in my way by 4 ft, but I let me him go. We then
tacked and started heading into the big waters. We were sailing between
lots of ledges and islands causing the waves to get square. On port
tack I couldn't hold a course in a bucket and lost a couple of
positions. On Starboard going directly into the waves I could outclimb
most the fleet. Some interesting crossing ensued along with several
death wraps on the winch. This was the first time we were having
problems in 3 years since modifing winch pads.
It was getting dark, the wind and waves were still up and we were
getting close to the windward mark. I had just crash-dipped [ie let the
sails out enough to take the load off the rudder so I could go behind
a boat rather than through him or tack onto the other side with the
crew sitting on the leeward rail tangled in the lifelines] the boat to
let a starboard boat by. We saw a boat in front of us not make the mark
and execute two extra tacks. This was affecting our air and we
were pinching close and the waves were pushing us the wrong way.
As we got there, we had lost a lot of momentium and were slipping to
leeward quickly, it was going to be close. REAL CLOSE. But heck, it's a
20 year old boat, I rebuilt it, I can always rebuild it. Lets go for
it!
I told the crew to be ready for crash tack if I had to bail out. Everyone
held their breath. Time started to slow down for me like a bad accident
was happening. That Big rusty red num bobbing up and down in the
dark evening tempest. A peek behind showed a competitor trucking down
on us from above. Got the front of the boat by, but we were just about
stopped. Got another 4 ft by when a big wave dropped us
right next to the S.O.B. But the rising of the next wave let the boat
lift a bit. let out 2 feet of genny sheet and cranked the rudder over
which kicked out the stern and got us around with millimeters to spare.
We start Whooping it up at the guys behind us. Later we found out they
could hear us 1/4 mile downwind ... Shoot, this is better than
the movies....
On the next leg I was so brain dead I took of my sunglasses, removed
the strap to put on my regular eyeglasses, but them back on my
sunglass, put them on and then remarked 2 minutes later "Man it sure
is getting dark quick around here, it's as though I still have my
sunglasses on". Crew damn near pissed their pants laughing at me.
The next segment as a broad reach for about a mile. The big rollers
had us surfing and moving very quickly. I tried to go after a 28' in
front of us but he was really good. I knew he would luff me if I
went outside, and with another boat just behind me, I couldn't get the
drive to surprise him. I tried going low, but the big rollers made this
really hard. So we just got in line and tried to go a bit high at a
time. This stunk, as there was a row of cans we had to honor, so you
really couldn't get creative. One boat in front went wing on wing
leeward to get a running start, but with the waves, it didn't matter
much. I tried to get an inside overlap so I could push the 28' to
leeward, but he had too much distance. We ended up crossing right
behind him. Overall we took 7th out of 14. If I protested the port boat
it would have been 6th, but it wasn't worth it, and I didn't want to
piss anyone off after pulling rolltacks to starboard 4-5 times
in the race to block boats. On the way back, we raced the same two
boats to our moorings 2 miles to windward in the dark with 150s up.
I was getting nervous as there are lots of shoals, cans/bouys, boats etc
up the Salem channel and we were hauling butt. Great night for sailing.
I was beat at the end of this one with all the rocking and rolling. I
was ready to go to sleep by the time of the awards cerimony.
What did I learn this Week?
I need to work on going to weather with waves from the side, as this
killed us in the race. We also lost a lot of time going through the fleet
after the bad start. Also need to investigate why did the sheets start
wrapping frequently. On the good side, the crew is taking care of more
and more of the big & little things so all I have to do is steer the
boat and tell them what I am up to for trimming purposes. Makes life
a lot easier.
As an added bonus, the club announced last night that they are going to
start making the results available via email. I signed up and will
await the output. If I can easily get it to fit in this notes file,
I'll start posting it. Then maybe we can have some discussions on
how PHRF works and use the results as examples to see where one really
stands in a race. Maybe we will get a couple of you cruisers out there
one evening. It's fun and you cann't do any worse then this one boat
that we beat on uncorrected time that started 15 minutes before us and
skipped rounding 2 marks... ;>)
|
845.803 | Standings | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Jul 07 1995 16:32 | 53 |
| JYC Race Results 7/6/95
* note Class J is J/24s
CLASS A
1 Orion
2 Oracle
3 Wave Dancer
4 Arco Iris
5 Celista
6 Bellatrix
7 Corona
8 Toot Sweet
9 Vapor Trail
10 Windever
CLASS B
1 Knotless
2 Camelot
3 Bonnie Lassie
4 Floating Asset
5 Kenda
6 Al Fresco
7 Bridget
8 Elusive
9 Rampage
10 Black Sheep
CLASS C
1 Sea Spray
2 Blitz
3 Seaductress
4 Vinga
5 Tobasco
6 Pao's Cat
7 Erna Ann
8 Lisa Marie
9 White Cap
10 Serendipity
11 Kookaburra
12 Marie Anne
13 Off Beat
14 "Red Sea Sprite??"
CLASS J
dsq Red Dog
dsq Sharkbite
dsq Puff Bonus
1 Blue Fox
2 Catch-22
3 White Heat
|
845.804 | details details | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Tue Jul 11 1995 19:04 | 6 |
| re .791
Check out the July issue of SAIL magazine under sailing basics.
whole article on roll tacking.
|
845.805 | 13 july | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Thu Jul 20 1995 13:46 | 107 |
| Jul 13th
12-15 knts WSW, 90 degrees, clear skys, 1-2 waves, dead low tide.
Sort of like the week before, only a bit less wind. This was fine with us,
as we were 1 man short. No traffic north of boston had us to the boat
early, so we headed out and relaxed. The wind we good, but there were
big gusts with veers just before the start as the sun headed down on an
extremely hot day.
Decided on a 150 and a full main.
A couple of boats were out on holiday, and a rest seemed to have extra crew
because of folks wanting to beat the oppressive heat. Oricle had 22 on board
and seem to suffer for it.
By the time we started, the A boats were coming directing across the start
line on either side. We made sure we were near the line when the gun
went off, but lost some time trying not to get cut in half by an A boat with
a spinnaker coming across us. (we would have been right, dead right).
Sailed to the leeline and tacked smoothly. We were headed on port with a boat
just to leeward of us. About 50 yds from the windward mark a starboard tack
boat came through which we both leebowed. Now it was going to be close at the
mark. I just barely had it if I could keep my speed up and I didn't have a clue
how the guy to leeward going to make it. Somehow we both did. Now we cracked
off on a tight reach for a stb turning mark. I headed up a bit to get outside
while keeping the boat behind me from diving in. At the mark I jibed
shallow and yelled for room. Nailed two boats in 1 shot. Great!
The next segment was a broad reach for about 1.5-2 miles. I was a lot lower
than normal and surrounded by boats. I was getting gassed and had nowhere to
go. A 30fter when high, so I went low and hope to get it back at the next
mark. This did not work, but I lost only 1 place (it could have been a lot
worse....). From there we went to a tight reach for 2 miles. We had to honor
a row of bouys so I couldn't climb high of the boat in front as he was
just about kissing them, and I didn't have enough size to roll him from below
(Darn!!!!).
So we followed him to the next turning mark which set us up for a 1.5 mile
downwind run between Eagle and Baker Islands. Those who know the area understand
there is a slot you have to stay in because of all the shoals/islands/wrecks.
The guy is front hoisted a kite and he was GONE...... . The boats behind were
gaining as the wind had died to about 5-7 knts. Just before the leeward
turning mark, I noticed I had not slacked the halyards or outhauls. No kite
was bad enough, but this made it worse. The folks running kites more than made
their time difference on this run. From there it was a shade off a beat to the
finish about 1.5 miles ahead. I had trouble to begin with, but it was because
we had everything sheeted in tight to hold the boat down. Once we cracked the
sheets, the boat came alive and we held our own.
Came in 4th, but we were 20 seconds short on corrected time of a slower boat
behind us so we settled for 5th out of 11
On a hot night, it doesn't matter where one places right???
What could we do better?:
- uncoiling the sheets got rid of the wrap problem the week before!
- Need to remember to loosen the halyards on the downwind runs
- not much could be done on the broad reach (though the new sailing world
has some tricks I need to try out).
- This week I'll try and get us an even better start. We seem to run very
competively when we can get clean air upwind.
Class A
1 Arco Iris
2 Bellatrix
3 Corona
4 Comotion
5 Toot Sweet
6 Orion
8 Oracle
9 Vapor Trail
10 Windever
7 Campbell's Sloop
Class B
1 Knotless
2 Floating Asset
3 Bonnie Lassie
4 Rampage
5 Kenda
6 Black Sheep
7 Elusive
8 Bridget
Class C
dnf Tobasco
1 Vinga
2 Blitz
3 Seaductress
4 White Cap
5 Erna Ann
6 Off Beat
7 Kookaburra
8 "Sidleman 299
9 Serendipity
10 Marie Anne
Class J
(PROTEST)
|
845.806 | Is this place..... | POBOX::ROGERS | hard on the wind again | Fri Jul 21 1995 01:09 | 11 |
| Eagle Island??? Would this be Salem Harbor?
If so, I remember doing some lobster dives and half fearing for get my
hair parted by a fin keel on surfacing.
Got a whole bunch of scallops on Eagle reef??
As a sailor, I used to watch the racers while letting my surface
interval clock up...
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845.807 | Salem Sound it is.. | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Jul 21 1995 14:25 | 8 |
| re .806 yes it is.
diving eh?? I can remember being in a catamaran race many years
ago in Rockport Mass. The place is littered with thousands of loster
pot bouys. We were all headed downwind when a diver's head popped up.
we all zigged and zagged around the startled diver. Going downwind,
nobody saw the flag, and his bouy matched all the other colorful ones
around it.
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845.808 | How to wipe a smile off the captain's face... | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Jul 21 1995 14:36 | 210 |
| 20 Jul 95
10 knts from wsw, 0-1 ft seas, 85 degrees, thin clouds.
Front to be coming through slowly later in the evening.
(similiar to last week, only lighter air)
Starting line was short and really favored a port start.
I was about middle of the line/pack with decent boat speed. 2 boats
to windward were starting to slow me down, so after 50 yrds I tacked for
port. The air was much better here. Several boats had already done
this and were ahead, but to leeward of us so we had good air.
Half way up the beat, several boats tacked on us, but we let them go, as
our additional distance earlier was going to let us into the opening for
Beverly harbor without running aground. With the tide going out, I over
stood the mark for an extra 2 boat lengths, as last year I almost hit
the mark when the tide and boat tacking at the mark increased my
leeway.
Once on Starboard, I footed a bit to gain some speed. Soon we were
trucking like a freight train. A couple boats coming in on port lee
bowed us. Things were looking good. I had the crew come off the windward
rail as we would be founding to port and I needed them to ease the sheets.
With about 80 yrds to go, a slightly larger boat on port got by at the
mark. No problem, we had speed and a bit of height. At 40 yrds, one of
my crew tells me another boat is going to try and squeeze it on port,
and it looks like a collision course. So I hail starboard twice as loud
as I can and hold my course.
We are flying and I am awaiting to see what happens. It only takes
fractions of a second at these speeds and short distances. First I see
the mast pop up over my forestay. Shoot!, I don't think he can leebow me
at this distance, Then I see a bit of his bow. THE SOB IS STILL ON PORT!.
There is no time to deal nicely with this. A quick look behind shows I
have about 20-30 yrds on the next starboard boat behind, so I yell CRASH
TACK to the crew, toss the tiller over and uncleat the main to keep
from powering though the middle of the offender about his chainplate.
We come about but fast.
As we crank over, the jib sheet is jammed on the wrong side. I am
busting butt to get out the way. The guy behind me crash tacks also,
then using the speed he has left, tacks back onto starboard and ducks
below me. I am not ready to get back into the fight yet, as one of the
crew got his ankle chewed up by a sheet during the maylay. It takes
15-20 seconds to harden up, tack back to starboard and get moving
again. 3 boats have gotten by us including the port tack man. I am
pissed someone would be that stupid and endanger both crews like he
did.
We are next to last now on a downwind leg. We loosen the halyards, move
the carts forward, and let everything get nice and baggy. A 29' from
behind is killing my air, but there is no place to go, as clearing my
air will take me away from the turning mark. I do a brief bobble trying
to adjust the main travler, but nothing spectaular.
The next leg is a beat to windward by Eagle Island. The wind is starting
to lighten. Maybe 7 knts now. I ride high to keep the 29' behind us
from rolling over us. Up ahead 2 boats take turns luffing each other.
Great! we head low and start reeling them in. Then the boat behind tries
to roll us so I have to luff her upwind & away from the mark. I lost about
half what I had gained.
At the turning mark we are again going through the channel between
Eagle and Baker's Island. Dead Downwind. The kite guys kill us all.
I have the crew loosen everything up and get ready for a slow run.
The 29 footer gets behind me and blankets me big time. I have a 30'
with a kite in front I am catching up to. I use the main on Stb to
colapse his kite and take him on his port side. the 29' goes right and
rolls him on his Starboard. Then I hear them say they aren't racing.
Swell, now I cann't luff him into the 29' on the other side. The 29'
catches a breese and accelerates ahead of us. The wind is now about 4
knots, but its holding and the tide seems to keep us moving.
I finally get ahead of the fun boat and get directly behind the 29'.
I see their genny collapse and they all turn around and look at me
(an all women's team from Boston). Once I catch up I go left and
come up on their port side. Because of their size, they are moving
a tinge faster. Each time they get a bit ahead, I get behind, kill their
air, and catch up again. I see them starting to talk in whispers with a
quarter mile to the turning mark. Probably some treachery. I really
don't care because I am on their port side with a port turning mark
coming up. About 50 yrds from the mark they start to move to starboard.
Looks like they will try and gybe the genny (we are all currenly wing
and wing) and squirt by. So I hail a friendly "I'm sure you are going to
give me room at the mark right ladies????". The look on their faces was
worth the price of admission . Their trap had sprung on them. I
didn't have much of an overlap, but it was enough that they couldn't
slam the door cleanly and had to let me round in front of them.
So we rounded smoothly in front of them and tighten everything down for
a 2 mile beat to the finish line. All the boats in front were churning
the air. I tried falling off, and didn't get any gains so we just
started pointing again.
About half way up, the right side of the course got light and everyone
bailed out for the center of the course. We held on, as it was the only
way we could get some clean air. Once above them, we too tacked.
A bit of speed and the realization we hadn't let out the topping lift.
Now the boat was acting fine. We were losing the folks behind and starting
to gain the boats ahead, but we were running out of time.
A look to the side had the ladies coming up fast on port. They had tacked
off early and found some wind. Once I knew they couldn't
get above us, I tacked and covered. The boats in front of us were twisting
the air, and I had trouble really moving. The 29' was bearing down and it
looked like they would break out from below us. But just as they got close,
we came up to speed, and our cover killed their run. The rest was a beat
to the finish. The 29' went low for speed, but then needed to make 2 tacks
to get across the line.
We took 9th out of 11. Getting buried out back didn't help us, nor did
losing 3 boats on someone else's mistake. I ended up protesting the boat
who agreed he screwed and was dsq'ed. He thought there was someone on his
side so he kept on going on port. With it not really going to help us
climb the standings, it was not worth a redress request.
As they say, That's racing.....
What could we have done better?
I was more aggressive at the start, but so was everyone else. got to
get even better. Probably need to pratice some starts on weekend with
the crew.
I knew I had to cool off after the confrontation, but I had real trouble
doing it. Not so much mad at the other skipper, but wonderment of how
someone could endanger other people like that. At the same time I was
thinking about 2 weeks earlier when I had starboard rights at a windward
mark and I leebowed him and let him go without doing the protest routine.
Had he taken me for a wussy?? All this time, I am not thinking 100%
race tactics.
The lower main had a bizzare bend back the wrong way. We thought it was
either too much outhaul tension or too much batten tension. Loosing them
help a bit but didn't cure it. I need to get this figured out.
I need to get my down wind and broad reaching technique down. I am losing
all my ground here. I also am starting to think hard about using a kite
next season. I hate the thought of upgrading the gear (winches etc) for
a boat I don't expect to hold onto. But These folks are smoking us on
the downwind legs and eating only a 6 second penality only on the days
they want to use it.
Making the diagrams for protest forms is a lot of work. Maybe I need
an automated protest form for my laptop.. ;>)
Next week the fall series begins. Should be fun.... ;>)
Series standing are in the results below. Missing several races for
business trips really hurt us. Hopefully we will be able to do better
in the 2nd half.
Subject: 7/20/95 and Spring Series Results
7/20/95 A Fleet Spring
Race Series
1 Wave Dancer 4
2 Oracle
3 Orion 1
4 Vapor Trail 2
5 Comotion 6
6 Bellatrix
7 Arco Iris 3
8 Toot Sweet 5
9 Corona
10 Windever
DNS Celista 7
7/20/95 B Fleet Spring
Race Series
1 Floating Asset 4
2 Bonnie Lassie 1
3 Knotless 2
4 Al Fresco 3
5 Elusive 7
6 Bridget 8
7 Camelot 9
8 Kenda 6
9 Rampage 5
10 Black Sheep 10
DNS Karol L 11
7/20/95 C Fleet Spring
Race Series
1 Blitz 1
2 Sea Spray
3 Lisa Marie 9
4 White Cap 6
5 Kookaburra 8
6 Pao's Cat 3
7 Vinga 5
8 Seaductress 2
9 Erna Ann 7
10 Morning Star
DSQ Tobasco 4
DNS Marie Anne 10
7/20/95 J Fleet Spring
Race Series
1 Catch-22 2
2 White Heat 4
3 Sharkbite 3
4 Blue Fox 1
5 Puff Bonus
DNS Red Dog 5
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845.809 | | POBOX::ROGERS | hard on the wind again | Sun Jul 23 1995 23:51 | 28 |
| Several years ago a protest against a skipper/boat that repeatedly
violated the rules resulted in a voided PHRF certificate ending his
racing career on Lake Erie.
In the 1985 MORC nationals, where my boat, Walkure, was thumping the entire
fleet in the distance race, we had exactly your experience at the weather
mark on a 17mile beat. It was a C divison boat that started 10min
earlier than our E boat. Our red flag cost him 64 points and the
regatta. He had the grace to apologize the next morning. Pulled along
side on the way to next race and apologized to the entire crew. Even
with our crash tack and recovery, we corrected 14min over second place.
and finished better than halfway through the C division in realtime.
As a side note, Assassin has been invited to participate in the 2nd
annual Southport Regatta at our new berth in Wisconsin. I did a single
handed tune up at the thursday night race starting area but withdrew
with the 10min gun went off. This might have been a mistake. The winds
were over 20kn at times, and my boatspeed was in the mid 7's under main
alone. Later, they asked me if I would consider starting 30min after
the 30ft division in the regatta in exchange for not requiring a valid
PHRF certificate.
This is a 10mile winward leeward course. I would need about 1.2kn
advantage to regain that (according to my calculations). Can I make
1.2kn better than a bunch of 30 footers?
feral grin.........
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845.810 | Solomons Island Race - July 21st - 22nd | GRANPA::KMAYES | Starboard! | Tue Jul 25 1995 18:38 | 105 |
| I sailed on a C&C 35 in last Friday's Solomons Race out of Annapolis
and had an experience I thought worth sharing.
We started in PHRF "B" at 19:20 hours in light rain and the threat of
thunder storms. While most of the fleet (about 150 boats started)
sailed to the western shore after a spinnacker reach to near Bloody
Point, we elected to beat down the Eastern Shore, past Eastern Bay
and the shallows close to Poplar Island.
After tacking back and forth across the Chesapeake in light and
variable dying winds, doing a head sail change to the light number 1,
we felt that we were doing about the best in our class and had caught
and passed a couple of the fleets that started ahead of us.
After doing a three hour stint at the helm, I handed control to another
crew member at around 2:30 AM. I remained in the cockpit to trim while
the skipper and two others slept below, and 6 others rode the rails
(weight to leeward in the light air). At around 3:00 AM I noticed
boat speed was down to about 2 knots, while apparent wind was over 6
knots. Since we had averaged boat speed at better than 50% of wind
speed thru the night, I started tweaking - barber hauler, sheets,
backstay, outhaul ... all the usual stuff.
We went slower! Then the guy at helm realized that the boat was
barely responding to the rudder. Well, only a week earlier I had
hooked an infamous Chesapeake Bay crab pot on my Hunter, and the
C&C was reacting the same way my boat did. I asked for the helm to
fall off intending to run down wind in the hope that what ever was
down there would fall off. We couldn't even get the boat to come
to a broad reach! Boat speed is down to 1.35 knots.
We woke the skipper and called for a volunteer to go over the side in
the sea nettle infested water. The skipper's son donned long pants
and mask while we pulled down jib and main. With the spreader lights
on and sails on the deck, dead in the water, and a man in the water
with a flash light, we suddenly hear "Starboard! Get out of the way!"
You've got to admit, some guys do take their racing seriously. The
J30 disappeared into the night and we returned from casting insults
at his fading stern light to the report from the man in the water that
there is nothing down there, he can see the rudder moving freely,
the prop is still feathered and clear, and by the way the bottom
is exquisitely clean.
Good! The pot (or whatever) had fallen off after we stopped. We have
lost 17 minutes, and its time to go racing. Sails go back up and we
accelerate past 2 knots and I feel like a hero. The navigator calls
out a course and the helmsman puts a little pressure on the wheel.
You've guesed it. The boat slows and feels about as responsive as a
wet noodle.
Someone calls for a check of the bilge to see if we are taking on water
while another dives into the hole in the port side lazerette to check
the steering gear. That's it! The skipper is turning the wheel stop
to stop, but the rudder is moving thru only a couple of degrees. Crap!
The cables are slack and slipping on the quadrant.
There is a call for tools. The skipper returns to the cockpit with a
screwdriver, channel lock plyers (multi-grips in the Empire), and
an adjustable wrench (shifting spanner) ... that's all. Two crew crawl
in and out of the hole and announce that the problem cannot be
corrected without a socket wrench and wratchet handle. Fortunately
the shifter is big enough to remove the nut hloding the wheel and
it is dispatched below as the emergency tiller is fitted.
In the mean time, several of the crew have decided that it is possible
to sail a boat with steering ...its just a matter of getting the boat
pointed in the right direction and then adjusting the balance forward
and aft by trimming jib and main. Right! Not in these light and
flooky winds with 30 - 40 degree shifts.
The skipper decides that there is no way we can finish with the
emergency tiller (estimated ETA in Solomons is still 6 - 7 hours away)
so he announces that he will start the engine and motor to nearest
marina. I asked for a chance to look over the problem, and crawl into
the hole. With a flash light I confirmed that there is no way to make
adjustments without tools, but by grasping the cables that lead forward
from both sides of the quadrant to the pulleys at the base of the
binnacle, I realize that I can remove the slack. Someone gets the
wheel mounted and we confirm that the rudder will turn if we can keep
enough pressure on the cable.
I asked for something metal that could be clamped around the cables
and a large hose clamp appeared. After installing that and getting
another one that I used to secure the first one to the exhaust hose, to
prevent it from sliding back and forth, we were back under way. We
had lost an hour or so, but darn there is a race to win!
I wish I could report that everything went well from there, but
unfortunately the lost time and the calm that set in around sunrise
left us doing doughnuts after a painfully slow beat to the Hooper
Island lighthouse. After covering just 1 mile in the four hours
between 0700 and 1100 hours, chasing puffs that at times registered
almost 2 knots with 180 degree shifts, we finally took a vote to
bag it. It was 5 to 4 to start the engine, with the skipper
abstaining. We joined numerous other boats motoring the last five
miles to the finish.
So, that was my first experience with distance racing. The result was
disappointing but the experience and the learnings were well worth it.
Heck, we'll be back on the 4th August for the Governor's Cup ... last
year there were 350 starters. I can't wait.
Regards,
Keith
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845.811 | Racing on Lake Michigan | POBOX::ROGERS | hard on the wind again | Wed Aug 09 1995 18:41 | 94 |
| I didn't really want to do this. It has been a long time (four years).
But, like in the old western days, a callout is a callout. So I make
out the check, fill out the entry, and Assassin joins the 2nd annual
Southport regatta.
Since this Soverel 33 landed in Kenosha on July 8th, the visitation has
been continuous (every time I am at the boat). Assassin's looks live up to
her name. I made the mistake of sailing along side Sirocco while
she was practicing for the Hook Race two weekends ago. It was blowing
20kn and I could keep up under main alone. They had a 155% jib up while
we were beam reaching.
So after a lot of good natured arm twisting, I'm in. My rating, er, 87
in Lake Michigan, in 1989. Haven't a clue now, I said.
"OK", they said.
The day before, I learn the the regatta is always a JAM race. I have to
sail to 87 without a kite? oh oh......
Sunday at the skippers meeting, I learn that this is going to be a
nineteen mile race, up to Racine Light and back. And that Assassin is
scratch boat and will start in the last of four divisions. The good
news?, There is only 3kn of wind (heh,heh,heh)
It builds to a whopping 4.7kn as the fleet heads out. The race has been
shortened to 8mi. Ok by me, less time for things to change.
We do a vanderbilt start on our gun, hitting the line with max speed.
In this case, 10deg off the wind, it is a respectable 5.6kn. The wind,
oh yes, it is 7.3kn apparent. My division includes an old one tonner
that I am worried about. She can put 35ft on the water and even though
she is heavier, the water is flat.
For the first five minutes we are tied neck and neck with Dolphine, the
custom one ton. The rest of the division is really hurting and begin
to sag to leeward and fall far behind. I cannot get my main to look
right. It has a closed leech. If I ease the sheet, the whole thing goes
flat. I want twist. Then I remember the solid vang and dump it. The
spring lifts the boom and the upper main twists off. Beautiful...and
6.2kn........whoosh.....goodbye Dolphine.
It takes us less than thirty minutes to erase division three's head
start. Most of the boats are down to leeward, but Rainbow holds very
high, trying to close the gate. Since I am already .3miles above the
rhumb line, I let us off a few degrees as we close. Rainbow tries to
come down to the three length limit but slows in the dying puff. We
burn through her lee in less than 15 seconds. Rainbow was also leading
her division so we are now targeting the next group......which is 1st
division????
Yes, it is the slowboats. Some of these rate as high as 297sec/mi but
it won't help them today. I owe them 28min but they started 30min early
and here I is........
As we approach the mark rounding the divison two boats are just coming back
at us. They are hard on, trying to climb over me. I cannot stop the
leader, but I do peel the others off to leeward. "Blessings" an Elite
30, says thankyou as they pass.
"No Drummer" a C&C 33 comes up hard and manages to get an overlap on my
new angle after Assassin goes over the downwind parade. I come down on the
mark wide, cutting close in a late apex rounding. It puts me inside
'Drummer with better speed. SLAM/DUNK........
We have our time on our division and both third and first division are
behind us now. There are only five boats ahead. At first we gain, then
suddenly, the air just dies. Even my annometer stops turning. Speed
drops out of the fives, through the fours and the threes to about
2.55kn. We rig for ghosting and everybody is on the lee rail. The water
is oily flat but we are still doing 2.25kn. For an hour this condition
exists. We have chewed up two of the five leaders and Sirocco is
falling close to the maw. Blessings it still leader, followed by
Ruffian, Sirocco and us. The next boat is Dolphine, barely visible
behind us.
A new breeze fills in from ahead. We see Ruffian get it first, then
Blessings. They take off. Sirocco is next, then us. We only had a mile
to go, but our speed jumps up to 6.7kn and we hurtle down on the three
ahead. At this point, the triple crown (first to finish, first overall,
first in division) seemed possible. But that last new breeze was the
naysayer. We did get Sirocco boat for boat and Ruffian on time. But
Blessings saved her time by a skinny 55sec. (they started 10min ahead
of us). We did win our division, nearly sailed over the entire fleet
and managed a keep our reputation for blazing speed intact.
We took our time with sail dousing and entered the marina somewhat
later than all the leaders. As we coasted up toward the berth, the air
was filled with missiles. Dozens of water balloons from at least ten
different boats. Christening? One of the "cruising options" I installed
was an appropriate reply. We had kept cool using the integral pressure
water system. The hose was still set up and the tank pressurized. So we
answered ancient single shot weaponry with modern day phalanx type
armaments. We won that battle too.......
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845.812 | The August Doldrums are here!!!!!! | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Thu Aug 10 1995 11:49 | 170 |
| 2 non action filled stories below.....
If you have trouble sleeping at night, ask to borrow my two "slam cam"
video of these races.....
July 27
Zip for wind from a fog bank due east, high tide just starting to ebb.
Course was 2 laps around the 2 nearest bouys which was changed to 1 lap
around the same bouys because of a lack of wind.
It took 10 minutes to get near the line for 3 of us. Decided to get a
good jump at the start. Too bad the wind didn't help. We were headed toward
the port end of the line to stop the port tackers, but couldn't get there
in time to head them off. Now there was no wind so we tacked off onto
port. A B class boat starting 4 minutes late was upwind of us. A Pearson
424, it takes out any air near it. We we able tack off onto starboard just
as a zepher came by which put us into 4th. As we got around the windward mark
the wind died again. It was a downwind run across the finish line. wing and
wing with the sails drooping we started to crawl. The boats behind us took
any wind left. Then that &*%$ 424 behind us hoists a chute and we stop dead.
Only the tide is slowing moving us toward the finish. The boats behind him
go left and around. 4 boats get by. I have a 27 footer on my stb hip when the
424 tries to just drive over me with the blasted kite, so I luff him once hard
and colapse his kite. He tries it again at the finish so I tried to luff him
into the finish line bouy but he had enough speed to escape. To add insult to
injury, the race committee didn't get out number. Since then the results below
have been modified (i had witnesses and all 2 boring hours of this race on
video tape from my new stern mounted "slam cam".
Final result: we took 7th.
Subject: Race Results
Class A
1 Oracle
2 Orion
3 Vapor Trail
4 Toot Sweet
5 Bellatrix
6 Fast Lane
7 Comotion
8 Wave Dancer
9 Corona
10 Arco Iris
11 Windever
Class B
1 Bonnie Lassie
2 Knotless
3 Al Fresco
4 Kenda
5 Floating Asset
6 Rampage
7 Bridget
8 Black Sheep
Class C
1 Blitz
2 Pao's Cat
3 Seaductress
4 Tobasco
5 Lisa Marie
6 Vinga
7 Kookaburra
8 Marie Anne
9 Karibow
10 Jaeger
11 Shy Joe
dsq White Cap
Class J
1 Sharkbite
2 White Heat
3 Blue Fox
4 Puff Bonus
5 Catch-22
Aug 3rd
So last week we had almost identical conditions though the wind was a bit
more (maybe 2-3 knts). weather reports were for a very weak high presure area
to drift north before drifting south later that evening. NOAA bouys confirmed
this 2.5 hours prior to the race, while raster radar showed no W->E storms
for 150 miles (love that Internet!)..
The course was a larger version of the week before with
a need to honor several cans on the way out followed by the very tight
reach to the windward turning mark.
I was really aggressive at the start and hit the port
pin 1st. Some winds shifts really added to the game. The ligher boats did
well. We were in about fifth at the turning can. On the way out to windward
mark, one of the crew suggested loosing up the rig which gave us some drive
agaist the waves. At the turning mark the wind shifted from the E to the NE, so
again we were on a tight reach/beating playing follow the leader. We tried
going low but with all the boats in front, we lost ground. Then we started
climbing high just to get clean air. This turned out to be a good move as
we didn't gain any positions, but we caught back up to the pack in front
and in doing so put some distance on the boats behind.
About 300 yards from the turning mark, here comes the Pearson 424 on
port (he had blown the reach up to the mark). First he cuts off a couple
of boats in front of us, followed by going into irons trying to tack. This
stopped the air on all us beating up to the mark. Getting used to his antics, I
had overpointed to give me some room. Turned out to need it by the time I got
to the mark as we had lost momenteum and were slipping badly to leeward.
As we turned the mark in 6th, most boats went left to the center of the
sound expecting a seabreeze to set from the fog banks just off the sound.
Seeing the 424 going that way and remembering the forcast, I went right toward
land. The wind dropped to a zepher and then it died.
So the fleet bobbed there, the tide not being a factor. About 30 minutes
later a puff or two came in from the right like I had been forecasting/praying
for. We were the first to get it, and we turned it so well there wasn't much
left for anyone leeward of us. Over the next 15 minutes it slowly filled
into to a 3-5 knt wind. We had to strap the boat for light wind beating, but it
worked as we did not have to tack. Over all we took 3rd (and my first "glass").
The light air rocket ship that had been leading got caught on the wrong side of
the course and settled for 8th. This help make up for the prior week's
disappointing finish.
Subject: Race Results 3 Aug
Class A
1 Arco Iris
2 Toot Sweet
3 Vapor Trail
4 Gold Watch
5 Infinity
Class B
1 Elusive
2 Knotless
3 Rampage
4 Al Fresco
5 Bridget
6 Floating Asset
7 Black Sheep
Class C
1 Pao's Cat
2 Vinga
3 Erna Ann
4 Lisa Marie
5 Sea Spray
6 Off Beat
7 White Cap
8 Marie Anne
9 Blitz
10 Morning Star
11 Kookaburra
12 Tobasco
13 Seaductress
Class J
1 Catch-22
2 White Heat
3 Sharkbite
4 Blue Fox
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845.813 | The kind of race you want to forget about | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Aug 11 1995 18:15 | 123 |
|
Last night had WSW winds at 5-8, low 90s, and a 1-2 foot chop at low tide.
Line HEAVILY favored STARBOARD starts
Everyone is getting aggressive nowdays. A lot of banging at the starts.
Saw one barger headed right up into the pin (big can). Luckily they tacked
off to port and restarted.
I thought I was going to have a good start, but when the gun went off, I was
DFL. A couple of boats in front were playing games, so we quietly pointed up
and got some clean air. I wanted to tack off, but 3 classes of boats were
coming down at us, and I didn't need that grief.
Staying on starboard, I got one boat to go below us, and we tacked off
after the layline to give us some extra room should anyone meet up with
us at the turning mark while on port. I was neck and neck with a 28 fter. I
tried high, then low to get an inside overlap, but couldn't make it stick.
On the reach out of the harbor, I got in front of him and started working
on the next guy in front, I tried to go down as a line of cans to be honored
made going high suicide. Then I got caught in his backwash. The 28 ft pounced
on us going high. I tried luffing him, but he had momentuem and got away. I
was able to get on his hip, but at the next mark a stb rounding had me in his
dirt. So we tacked away. All the fun and games were letting the leaders get
away.
By now we were in 12th and I was feeling miserable. We got some decent
air, but the leaders were smoking everyone, but we were doing better against
the guys close by. We got above and parrell to the 28 fter when the guy
in front of him tried a slam dunk on us. We pulled a very ungraceful rolltack.
He tried to counter, but had run out of momentium. Things were getting better..
But we were out on the Starboard side of the course alone.
Then the wind shifted like 20 degrees pushing us away and lifting everyone
to windward mark. By the time we got there, the 2 boats in front of us had
about half a minute on us. For the broad reach back, we loosen everything
up and played the telltales. This worked great, as we were keeping up with
both boats and I thought they both owed us time. The 27 fter ahead went
up high and lost big time. Both the 28fter and us went beneath him and
came up to pass him.
At the next turning mark everyone tacked onto starboard. I kept going on
port to clear my air. What I hadn't noticed is that they had shortened the
course and I was headed the wrong way. Then the local fishing tourney was
over and I got run over by half a dozen big sportfisherman (ie BIG wakes).
Realizing the mistake, we tacked back onto Starboard. We were not going to make
the finish (heavily favored PORT) as we saw our competitors come across. We let
the 28footer across, but were able to cut off the 27fter at the finish. We
immediately rolled tacked the boat and got across the near end of the line
before they could recover. We made 1.5 minutes on the 28ft, but found out we
lost to the 27 ft by 15 seconds (we actually owned him time). All in all a real
poor performance on my part.
The ride back was specactular with the biggest moon you ever saw lighting up
the sound. We sailed right up to the mooring. What a great night to be outside.
What did we do wrong?
Bad start {got to get even more aggressive} This is causing all kinds of
problems later in the race with everyone in front stealing the air.
Need to get a boom vang for reaching. We are losing a lot of power.
Need to get a pole for genny. We found out last night the boat hook is
illegal unless we secure it to the mast.
Need to listen more closely to the radio for shortened courses.
Got to play the middle of course more. Got caught in no-man's land on
that windshift.
The rudder bearings are shot and the replacements are backordered. Steering
is like racing garbage truck. Need to get these installed to get the feel
back and the rudder bouncing around eliminated.
Subject: Race Results
Class A
1 Oracle
2 Vapor Trail
3 Arco Iris
4 Comotion
5 Gold Watch
6 Toot Sweet
7 Tantara
Class B
1 Knotless
2 Bonnie Lassie
3 Elusive
4 Floating Asset
5 Rampage
6 Bridget
Class C
1 Blitz
2 Seaductress
3 Sea Spray
4 Tobasco
5 Pao's Cat
6 White Cap
7 Vinga
8 Lisa Marie
9 Kookaburra
10 Erna Ann
11 Karibow
12 Off Beat
13 Marie Anne
14 Serendipity
Class J
1 White Heat
2 Puff Bonus
3 Blue Fox
4 Sharkbite
5 Catch-22
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845.814 | Aug 17, 4th straight week of no wind | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Mon Aug 21 1995 11:44 | 122 |
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Forecast is winds 15-20 from NE. Actual wind is 4 knts and dying. Tide
going out, slight swell from felix. Course is a 2.1 mile triangle.
You know it is going to be a bad night when you come out of the bathroom
from changing clothes and some all womens team is trying to shanghi your
crew for their boat. ;>)
Real short starting line. The A class boats had trouble clearing the line
as the J24s come up. A slight zepher takes them out of the way as the B boats
start. The crew tells me to go for it early. We motor toward the starting line
and kill the motor 5 and half minutes before our gun. We then coast along with
a bit of wind. There are a lot of boats going for a small opening in a very
light breeze. We manage not to hit anyone and get to within 1 boat of the port
pin when the gun goes off. We are clear for air, but the boat to leeward is a
small high performance boat and is outclimbing us. I have to back out and go
beneath them so I can foot in these light breezes.
We head out on Stb and overstand the mark just a bit. Most the fleet behind us
has already tacked off to port. When we finally tack, we have a layline for the
pin and clean air in front of us, where most the folks who chose to go straight
for the mark are in dirty limp air. The boat starts to move then the breeze
backs around and close reaches us. This is great as we are windward of everyone
and can now foot the boat for power against the swells. I had been really
nervious of meeting up with everyone at the windward mark on port, but now we
are in 3rd and behind us, the next boat is at least 2-3 minutes behind. At the
mark, the guys in front of me tack onto starboard to the second turning mark.
We continue to go out as we have caught a lot of the B and even a couple of A
boats on the wind shift. But tacking now would put us in their bad air. We head
straight out. I was going to shoot for the layline but a big 40 footer coming
across had me tack off early so as not to get caught in their bad wind later.
One of the boats in front of me foots big time but gains ground on the
performance machine next to him. So we foot a bit more than ussual. We will not
make the mark, but the extra speed is worth it, as it gets us closer to a patch
of wind ahead. At the mark, the Catalina that footed has a big lead. We caught
back up to the performance boat. Easy rounding, now we get outta there as the
rest of the fleet is coming in. We go to the right to keep from having our wind
blocked from the the boats going upwind. We get about a 200 yard lead when
everyone and their brother arrives at the mark. After some yelling they spread
out behind us, killing any wind that might be left. We are doing maybe .5 knts
as the sun is getting low. half a mile to go and it takes close to an hour to
do it ;>( .
We try several combinations of wing on wing/genny behind the main/no headsail
etc to no avail. Everyone behind is catching us, but reallllll slooooooowly.
With avg 6-8 second correction in times, we just have to hold on. I am going
crazy with no wind, but the crew settles me down. We finally just ride it out
with a couple cool ones. At the finish it took 2 minutes to cross
the finish line as the feable excuse for the wind was losing to the current
of the outgoing tide. I thought we had 3rd, but it turns out there
was a new boat in the fleet and he tore us all a new one, so we took 4th out of
17 boats.
What did we learn?
August doldrums stink..... ;>)
The race was won at the start when we got a clean start on the port side
Footing the boat in light airs can really pay off.
The whisker pole really helps get the genny out there. A trick we learned
later was not to attach to the clew, but run the sheet through the
latch instead, as it gives a better shape.
The new rudder bearings made driving much easier as the rudder stayed
put instead of bouncing around beneath us.
Subject: Delayed Results (8/17/95)
Class A
1 Oracle
2 Face Off
3 Bellatrix
4 Arco Iris
5 Orion
6 Vapor Trail
7 Toot Sweet
8 Gold Watch
9 Comotion
10 Campbell's Sloop
11 Windever
Class B
1 Bonnie Lassie
2 Knotless
3 Rampage
4 Al Fresco
5 Floating Asset
6 Bridget
7 Karol L
8 Black Sheep
Class C
1 Bust Off
2 Pao's Cat
3 Blitz
4 Erna Ann
5 Seaductress
6 Vinga
7 Tobasco
8 Sea Spray
9 White Cap
10 Marie Anne
11 Kookaburra
12 Karibow
13 Lisa Marie
14 Jaeger
15 Morning Star
16 Serendipity
17 Off Beat
Class J
1 Blue Fox
2 Catch-22
3 Sharkbite
4 Red Dog
5 White Heat
|
845.815 | Aug 24, the wind returns BIG TIME! | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Aug 25 1995 17:22 | 222 |
|
Winds are 17-19 mph with gusts. 2-4ft seas. Clean and sunny, 80 degrees.
Near low tide. Weather report says tonight 15 mph dimishing to 10 as a
Canadian front comes through.
We get to the boat early as we have to do some work. It is honking out
there. As I motor through the mooring field, the boat has 8-17 degrees
of heel, and there are no sails up. Guarenteed no snoozer like the past
couple of weeks. We get the boat set up and go back out to the mooring
to discuss which sails to use.
I am thinking 150% with a reef when one of our competitors comes through
the mooring field half out of control at hull speed with a 130 and a
reef. Ok, we'll use the 105% and a reef and hope the wind doesn't die at
dusk.
Motor out to the course we put on foul weather gear and lifejackets
"just in case". We hoist the and main jib with 15 minutes to go. It is
still blowing like stink. The A boats take off. Oracle is late to get to
the line and starts the race still hoisting a jib. About 3 minutes later
the crew says Oracle just blew up. Sure enough the main had genaded the
length of the boom about 3 feet up and the panel is ragged. They
immediately get out of the way and drop sails before retiring.
The next 2 starts are going off well, as the boats are flying. I come to
the line midway with 2 minutes to go, but the wind is so strong it is
hard to stand still. So I fall off to go downwind and then gybe to port.
About 15 seconds later and it is getting to be time to turn, but the
main has already started an accidental gybe. I had mounted the slam cam
3' behind the boom but I never knew flying mainsheets can get that far
out and around the backstays. They rip the camcorder and waterproof
housing off the boat like it was nothing. Luckily it falls into the
motor well.
No time to fix the stupid thing, we toss it below and head for the
start. Most boats are crowding the windward pin, so we have lots of room
and get a clean start near the committee boat. We are flying and getting
knocked over a bit every couple of puffs. We start to climb to windward,
but soon we are getting close to the pack and we need to tack behind
most of them as we will be going to port. A well executed tack gets us
around and in pretty good air. It is a stb can rounding, but I had
tacked too early and we will not make it. We sail well to get close, put
2 crisp tacks in and round. But we are in 8th or 9th looking at the
leaders going downwind on a broad reach.
First job is to stay close to the leaders for the beat back. Basically
surfing the waves in a pack of boats. One crew starts calling the
sheeting while I concentrate on driving. We don't pass anyone, but we
close up on them, and we don't lose to the folks behind. At a turning
mark we gybe on another bizzare angle run. The crusing boats with roller
furling are eating everyone alive as they can unfurl the 150 and attach
a spinaker pole. we are going 3 abreast with our 105 and a reef. At the
same time I have a Catlina 27 coming up on my windward side getting
ready to roll me. There is a couple of wind shifts and now the angle
allows the use of a whisker pole. So out it goes. With the other boats,
the wind, and the waves, keeping the jib drawing is no small feat.
There are very quick discussions going about whether to vang, use the
pole etc. Real High intensity stuff as the conditions and boats keep
changing. This goes on for about 2 miles and we are holding our own and
pass one boat to windward. But they come right back. We then decide to
shake out the reef for more power along with loosening the halyards. We
finally have enough power to hold our own with the boats near us.
A set of bouys keeps us busy trying to keep the sails working
with the increasingly bizzare wind angles that are throwing 20 degree
shifts at us every couple of minutes. This is a wild ride for 2 miles.
The boats around us are having even more trouble keeping the rigs right as
the big sails are becomeing liability.
With about a quarter of a mile to go before a port rounding, a different
Catalina 27 is on my windward hip and they are flying. I can't afford to
luff too much as we are getting close. Biggest fear is being trapped 2
boats outside the mark and a 3rd slipping in before the nightmare is
over. The waves are getting bigger as we surf at hull speed and the
whisker pole is out of control.
The boat to leeward squirts ahead of us, so they are
out of the way, even if the position hurts us. Crew goes to take down
pole. Just as they get it disconnected from the mast another veering
gust hits us, but we are able to sheet the jib in behind the main and
pull ourselves low onto the line, in front of the second boat yet not
completely blanketed by the Catalina 27.
At the mark we gybe and start upwind with the two other boats just
behind us and the other just in front and to leeward. Just as the main
is in and the crew goes to crank in the jib a gust hits and the boat
starts to spin out. this is not good as on my windward hip is that
Catalina 27. Oh &^%$! we are going to get T-boned! I scream to get some
meat up top and dump the main. Somehow we get out of this while the Cat
dives low to get out our way and roll us from below. But we didn't
completely spin out so we are still a bit ahead and in front. the sails
are finally set and everyone is back on the rail. Time to pick them
off one by one, as our fortay is beating to windward. First we go
after a 30 footer. By driving the waves we get high of them and start a
drag race. Half a mile later we pull ahead. Now we are after a 25 footer
with only 2 guys on board. Man they were good holding us up for about a
mile and a half. They went up when we went up. And the guys behind are
starting to catch us both.
Up ahead is a mark we have to honor. I hold off the fight until I know
we have the mark made. It is close for both of us, but we get by. The
others behind were not so lucky. Because we now were very close reaching
in a windy and confused sea, I tried to go low. The 25 footer fell off
too. I then got right behind them and started to go high. Just as they
started to go high, a gust hits and they were knocked over a bit. Their
sails took the brunt of the gust, so I dove low and got beside them for
another drag race. I then came up and took some of their wind. The next
boat was ahead a ways but low on the course. By the time we got to the
turning mark at baker's island, it was less than half the distance. And
now we could see the front of the fleet. We had gotten ourselves right
back into the fight!
The sun goes down, but the wind stays. 15-17 knts with these blasts that
veer 20 degrees in either direction. All kinds of fun in the dark. We
look at the fleet as they beat to the next mark. With all the wind we go
up the middle between them. We knock off a boat to leeward, then a
boat to windward. And we are reeling in the leaders. On a particularly
nasty gust, we have to sheet out the main. The boat shutters, but keeps
going when most boats start going over. We then leave the man on the
main to play it while 2 crewmen look for gusts and other boats in the
dark. Every time the gust hits and knocks a competitor over we gather a
bit of speed then luff a bit along with loosening the main to get
through the blast, and then sheet in again. As we get to the final
turning mark a killer gust comes through, but luckily we had climbed
enough to have some room. The boat to leeward rolls over big time and
then has to tack off to make the mark. That's another one. Now there is
only two boats in front of us and one just behind us, but to windward. I
am not sure how to deal with this but everyone says try to kill the boat in
front and let the other guys figure out how to deal with us. We loosen
the jib a bit for more drive as we are close reaching. The main is
constantly being played now. We go below the guy in front and then come
back up on him. We then hang on for the finish in 2nd. The guy behind starts
yelling about a protest.
No celebrating till the protest is heard. We sail back to the mooring at
hull speed. The wind will not let up. We are tired but happy as we had
passed most the fleet going upwind.
At the club, they ask if I had legs over the side after dark. I said,
yes, one guy was sitting on the rail. They said that's a no-no after
dark. OK, so DSQ me. But they tell me to wait around in case the forms
are not filled in. Knowing the guy protesting, this was not going to
happen. So I go outside. The wind has fallen off to nothing in
less than an hour. I check back later and they said there was no
protest.
What???
Well, they couldn't find the rule. We used to have the rule in our book
about 4 years ago, but apparently we hadn't been putting into the rule
book for some time, so the protest was dropped for a lack of a rule to
protest against.
Fine by me. Man this is even better than getting that warning from the
cops for going too fast earlier in the morning. What a day/night to be
alive!!! Only wish the cam corder had worked. This would have been some
excellant footage.
So we got 2nd. Beat the 3rd boat on time by a couple of seconds only
because they had a penilty from winning 2 weeks earlier. Yes, Someone was
watching over us! Everyone had a good time with all the wind (well maybe
not Oracle).
And Blacksheep won too. The big monster boat we have been having trouble
with. Only B boat that had the weight to deal with the wind.
What can we do better.
1. get a tether on the slam cam before I am out $1500 in video gear.
2. Need to start playing the main more in gusty conditions
3. Need a boom vang big time.
4. Concentrate on driving. The crew now know their jobs better than I
5. I need to think of what I am saying. When there is lots going on, I am
using the wrong terms and confusing the crew.
Results:
Class A
1 Vapor Trail Bob McLemore
2 Wave Dancer Barry Johnson
3 Bellatrix George Pawle
4 Face Off Norm Reid
5 Toot Sweet Jim MacNeill
6 Comotion Jim Mega
7 Windever Sam Cooper
8 Oracle Geoffrey Wilson
Class B
1 Black Sheep Richard Carter
2 Knotless Ken Bowden
3 Floating Asset Steven Goldberg
4 Karol L Armand Gallo
5 Al Fresco Kurt Pelsue
6 Bonnie Lassie William Callahan
7 Elusive Robert Jaremzek
8 Bridget Gerry Fennessy
9 Kenda Dan Workman
Class C
1 Pao's Cat Paul Odierno
2 Erna Ann John Kalinowski
3 Blitz John Allen
4 Lisa Marie Steve Hillis
5 Seaductress Larry Proulx
6 Sea Spray Richard Lowe
7 Bust Off George Bernier
8 Karibow
9 White Cap Peter White
10 Kookaburra Marty Galligan
11 Jaeger Brandt Binns
12 Serendipity John Sweeney
13 Marie Anne John Gallo
Class J
1 Catch-22 Joseph Grenier
2 Sharkbite Neal Whittredge
3 Blue Fox John Caldwell
|
845.816 | Ohpps | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Aug 25 1995 18:37 | 3 |
| re .815 Sources tell me Oracle actually did finish the race.
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845.817 | Aug 30th | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Tue Sep 05 1995 18:27 | 176 |
| Aug 31 wind SW 15 knts, seas 2-3 and building, 80 degrees.
Have been working on the boat all day as I was on vacation (Got that
boom vang I was talking about).I went home at 2 to do some house things
and pick up the crew. On the way back, I notice a storm at the Ma/NH
border coming down from the North. By the time we get to the boat it
looks like to two winds are going to play some games on our heads.
We go with a single reef and the 110. This looks to be a lot like
last week. We are a bit late getting to the course and have to stay out
of the way of the A boats starting. Looks like the Big course (into
Beverly, out to Manchester, over to Marblehead outside the islands and
then back). The wind is howling. Looks like a Port favored line, but we
have a lot of boats and this is not the place to get stuck on Port. At
the gun, we are about 10 seconds late, but we are at full speed at
the pin. One boat gets by us on port (could have protested them, but we're
nice guys the 1st time). A second boat tries it and we hail, so down they
go below us.
We get pretty close to the lay line and want to tack, but we may
foul the boats behind, so we wait. When we get a chance, we go. On port,
the guy who ducked us hails us, so we duck them. Now it is going to be a
stuggle to make the mark, as the boats ahead have turned the air to
mush. About 30 yrds from the pin, we tack over to starboard and hail all
the boats bearing down on the mark while on port. Some can't make the
mark now, some can. We get into a safe position, tack and take off on a
close reach to the next mark after a stb rounding. We get close to a
Catalina 27 that is very fast. We try to go low, but he is having none
of the this, and a look behind shows everyone gaining. So we go high and
parrellel the Catalina 27 and hope to find some room at the mark.
At we get close to the Stb rounding mark to head downwind, we stay high
to the last minute, and spin the boat around with some authority. This
gets us inside the guy ahead of us and to windward. They are busy trying
to get their sails reset, so we drive high and roll them. They let us go
as they normally eat us alive on broad reachs/runs, but tonight we have
the new boom vang which we immediately press into service. What a
difference! Not only do we hold our own, but we gain on the boats
behind. Off to bakers island he go, steering as low an angle to keep the
speed up to help get over the waves and incoming tide. The crew shakes
the reef for the reach without us losing boatspeed. Things are
looking good as we are in 5th or so.
At the next stb turning mark we are on starboard and a lot of our
competitors are having to tack onto port as they had gone too low. We
let the stern of one of our competitors go, as he ussually knows better
and it was only his stern. But right past him is a J-24 tacking and
we clearly have them. We continue on starboard and hail him twice. When
he keeps coming, we crash tack to keep from cutting him in half. After a
couple pieces of advice are given to him, one of my crew asks what class
are they in? A look at the boat shows a flag off the backstay, but it
isn't one of our classes. Evidently someone decided to shadow the fleet
without knowing the rules. Man, this stinks as we can't even protest the
clown, yet we are not where we want to be on the course.
Now it gets dark out, and the wind rises even more. The waves have really
built, we are beating through 6 footers in the dark with 15 knts of wind
and all around us are small islands and shoals just waiting to rip our
keel off. It is so black out you can't see the waves, so it is
impossible to steer them. Several times the boat flys over a wave and
crashes on the next one. The crew is trying to work the main as best
they can. From behind, one of the boats has been making a run at us and
it is paying off. They get within 3 boat lengths as we head out into the
dark atlantic. The fleet has spread out on several beats, so it will be
a while until we know who guessed right. Finally, we can see the
flashing bouy about 1.5 miles to our right and we tack so as to go
behind a reef instead of going all the way around it. The boat behind
does the same. Our boat is rolling on waves making driving ever worse.
We can barely make out the depth gauge as we are all sitting as far out as
legal. 50 ft... 30 ft... 22 ft... 17 ft... 13 ft... and finally back to
16 ft... 18 ft . We are over the shoal. No time to lighten up as we are
among all kinds of islands to leeward in big swells with a boat on our
leeward hip, and 13 other boats expected to pop out of the night on
Starboard. We leave some extra room at the mark to ensure it is not a
close call like several weeks ago and round right behind a 29 fter who
arrived at the mark on starboard, but took a bit of time to get high
enough to round it in the big seas.
Now we are on a beam reach back into the sound. Biggest problem is
trying to find the marks we have to honor. I hand the tiller to a crew
and work my way to the bow. We are neck and neck with the 29 fter and
the 25 footer behind. It is pitch black out there and the cans are not
showing up very well. We see a big navigational nun and use it to aim us
in the right direction. Finally I see a can we need to honor, only we
are on the wrong side. The boat is steered down, but not enough. A quick
yell gets a final correction and we are around it. The 29 fter goes high
and gains, but then loses it all at the turning mark when they come back.
At the port rounding they slam the door so we cannot get to windward of
them, but in doing so, they go head to wind for a moment with their
lines still set for a reach. It is all we need. We had come in low and
were gathering speed by starting to sheet in. When the door was
slammed, we drove off to leeward and sheeted in the rest of the way.
Drag race time...... We get up to speed and then sight the committee
boat on the leeward side of the next mark. So we head right toward it. For a
moment it looked like we might snag their anchor line as we wanted them
to see nothing but our sails. Sure enough, it works as we beat both
boats. The 25 footer got us on corrected time.
Overall 4th out of 15.
What went right / What should we have done differently?
1. Listening to the crew on gettng a vang was excellant advice and made
a lot of boatspeed downwind.
2. Letting them do sails while I just stared forward for the reach paid off.
Use a crew to watch the boats from behind and apprise you of anything
you really need to know about.
3. I need to practice beating in swells in the dark. Bad timing cost us at
least 1 place.
4. Get a detailed map down with all the courses marked. Lacking this
caused some indecision in the dark. At the same time, build a time
difference chart for all competitors based upon the course length
so we know where we stand.
Subj: 8/31/95 Race Results
Class A
1 Arco Iris Miguel Martinez
2 Orion J. Chafey
3 Gold Watch Horst Lachmayr
4 Wave Dancer Barry Johnson
5 Celista Ed Walsh
6 Oracle Geoffrey Wilson
7 Toot Sweet Jim MacNeill
8 Vapor Trail Bob McLemore
9 Campbell'Sloop Dave Campbell
10 Face Off Norm Reid
11 Windever Sam Cooper
12 Comotion Jim Mega
Class B
1 Knotless Ken Bowden
2 Floating Asset Steven Goldberg
3 Bonnie Lassie William Callahan
4 Al Fresco Kurt Pelsue
5 Karol L Armand Gallo
6 Bridget Gerry Fennessy
7 Elusive Robert Jaremzek
8 Black Sheep Richard Carter
9 Rampage William Kuzmar
Class C
1 Blitz John Allen
2 Lisa Marie Steve Hillis
3 Tobasco John Dionne
4 Erna Ann John Kalinowski
5 Seaductress Larry Proulx
6 Vinga James Henderson
7 Pao's Cat Paul Odierno
8 Answered Prayer Robert Libert
9 Off Beat Philip Lowe
10 Karibow
11 Bust Off George Bernier
12 Serendipity John Sweeney
13 Marie Anne John Gallo
14 Kookaburra Marty Galligan
15 Jaeger Brandt Binns
Class J
1 Blue Fox John Caldwell
2 White Heat Mary Ann Launt
3 Red Dog Jeff Dropkin
4 Sharkbite Neal Whittredge
dnf Puff Bonus Gary Denapoli
dsq Catch-22 Joseph Grenier
|
845.818 | We beat everyone including ourselves... ;>( | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Sep 08 1995 18:12 | 117 |
| Sep 7 SW 15 knts, seas 2-3 and building, 75 degrees. Running 1
crewmember short.
Same conditions as last week. Same course. A bit more wind, but
less gusts and veering. Prior to the J-24s going off, the horn beeps a
couple of times and something comes over the radio, but we can't make
it out over the jib trying to luff itself apart after a gybe.
About 10 yards late to the line, but with full speed. Two boats to
windward and a bunch to leeward. The windward boats kill any air and
the leeward boat is pushing us up. So we slow a bit and tack off to
port following a port starter. We get good air and start moving. When
we are close to laying the mark we tack with the boat ahead. Might as
well make a starboard tack parade for all the other boats coming
in on port and see if we can push them low of the mark. Half way to
the mark, the mystery j24 shows up and is right in our way. This time
we give a wide berth, but we lose some room to the mark. When we tack
over and hit the windward pin, we are in 5th. Two boats ahead are in
a bit of a luffing match so we go low and gain. At the next starboard
turning mark, the boat we nailed last week at this mark by going
shallow does it to the boat next to him and slams the door on us.
So we go low on both on a broad reach. Sails are trimmed and we go
after the 3rd place boat who is still luffing the 4th place one. I get
right on his leeward hip and sit there. Now he has to watch the 4th
and 5th place boats. This springs the 4th place boat to windward. As
we cross the last of a set of bouys that made us sail low, we quickly
harden up and roll over the top of him, then the 4th place boat.
Staying high, we finally get past both! Ahead lay the 1st and 2nd
place boats. The 2nd place boat is sailing a high line and the 1st
place boat a lower line. We go low and around the the 2nd place boat
to keep from getting into a luffing match. We have more water line and
we use it. Half a mile from the turning mark we come up and
consolidate. Heading right for the mark now at hull speed. About 400
yards from the bouy, the 1st place boat starting coming up, having
sailed too low. He tries to cut us off at the mark but I start hailing
for room at the mark. It get real close. I am about to whack the last
3 feet off his boat when he finally understands he doesn't have it and
backs out. We roll over him into 1st.
We point as close to Baker's island as we can get and tack off. We get
a killer wrap, but quietly get rid of it. Now we go after the boats in
front of us in B fleet. Sailing the waves MUCH better than last week
as we head on out into the atlantic as the blackness of night comes in
. Luckily there is a bit of moon light. We navigate beautifully, round
the bell off Marblehead and reach in. Having studied the charts in
detail, we align each mark perfectly. And then on to a perfect finish.
Too bad we sailed the wrong course and did an additional 2.5
miles. The horn and radio were for a last minute course change. And
following the B boats out on what we thought was the right course only
showed we were not the only ones who screwed up. Overall, 9th for 13,
as we did honor all the marks we needed to.
In J24 class, sharkbite took a chunk out of blue fox and was dsq for
her feeding frenzy.
What do we need to do?
Boatspeed is fine, and downwind runs are now as good as upwind.
This has built confidence in the crew as we expect to be up front in
every race now. Hard work, trust and teamwork!
Need to turn the radio up a bit louder and pay attention to course
flags as we start the race to ensure no changes.
Subj: Sept 7th Race Results
Class A
1 Orion J. Chafey
2 Wave Dancer Barry Johnson
3 Gold Watch Horst Lachmayr
4 Oracle Geoffrey Wilson
5 Vapor Trail Bob McLemore
6 Arco Iris Miguel Martinez
7 Campbell's Slp Dave cCampbell
8 Toot Sweet Jim MacNeill
9 Celista Ed Walsh
10 Comotion Jim Mega
11 Bellatrix George Pawle
12 Windever Sam Cooper
dnf Face Off Norm Reid
Class B
1 Knotless Ken Bowden
2 Floating Asset Steven Goldberg
3 Black Sheep Richard Carter
4 Bonnie Lassie William Callahan
5 Karol L Armand Gallo
6 Al Fresco Kurt Pelsue
7 Bridget Gerry Fennessy
8 Rampage William Kuzmar
Class C
1 Blitz John Allen
2 Lisa Marie Steve Hillis
3 Pao's Cat Paul Odierno
4 Seaductress Larry Proulx
5 Vinga James Henderson
6 Bust Off George Bernier
7 Kookaburra Marty Galligan
8 Serendipity John Sweeney
9 Erna Ann John Kalinowski
10 Answered Prayer Robert Libert
dnf Jaeger Brandt Binns
dsq Karibow
dnf Off Beat Philip Lowe
Class J
1 Red Dog Jeff Dropkin
2 White Heat Mary Ann Launt
3 Catch-22 Joseph Grenier
4 Blue Fox John Caldwell
dsq Sharkbite Neal Whittredge
|
845.819 | Showing our grit | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Sep 15 1995 17:50 | 168 |
| Sep 14
Major cold front had just cleared in past hour. A dry, light
WNW breeze is starting to fill in again. Water is calm, tide is going
out. We use the 150. We are 1 crewperson short.
With the little daylight left, the race committee calls a
short 4-5 miler with a windward, run, windward course. The start line
looks port favored, but as the first boats start, the wind was come
around a bit and it is perfectly square. Decent start with the BIG A
boats rolling all the smaller A boats. This is followed by the J24s,
and B fleet. As we come up to the start, we steer for the windward
side of the line. A couple seconds off the gun no one is to windward
of us. We start out and I call for a tack off to port to get away from
everyone. I surprised the crew on this one, but they pull it off
nicely. We sail on port for a couple hundred yards awaiting a wind
change. but it doesn't come. So we tack off again for the mark. Since
the start, the wind has gone right and just about made it a straight
line to the mark. Oh Oh..., 200 yards for nothing. But we can foot a
bit where the rest are cranked down tight to lay the mark.
We make up most the loss because of the additional boatspeed.
There is a 28 footer in front causing just a bit of turbulance. Ahead
and to leeward is another 28 foot pointing to get to windward mark.
The boat ahead beats them to the mark, but the leeward 28'er gets
there seconds before us and out of gas.
It looks like they are going to go backwards and scrape the nun so
ducking below them is out of the question. Luckily we left some wiggle
room and go around them. But it is the long route as they are blocking
our turn. They finally get around and we have to go to leeward of
them. Oxygen masks drop from the boom as they take all the air. We
slow down to go behind and windward of them, but anoher boat shows up
and cancels this option. Guess we have to wait it out. This is brutal
as the front runners are getting away. After about 5-10 minutes we are
strung out enough to finally execute the plan and go high on the 28
footer. We then run down and pass the other boat just ahead of them.
But the leaders are gone.
The wind has continued to veer right so the run is now a broad
reach. The crew starts working the sails while I drive the boat. We
slowly pull away from the boats behind and catch up to the ones ahead.
A Catalina 27 is the first boat we need to attack. We are about equal
in speed, or slightly faster. We causiously go upwind to roll him, but
we are not making the gain worth it as the mark is getting close and
on a lower line. So we go down and tuck behind and to leeward of him.
At the mark he drives a bit wide in case I ask for room. There is
plenty, so we just execute a perfect gybe to head back upwind. The
halyards are already retightened, and traveler were reset ahead of
time. This not only gets us to windward, but we outaccellerate him.
Life is looking better.
We are on a very tight reach/beat with lots of boats ahead. We
take it up a bit for some clean air and we start to reel in everyone
ahead. All of the sudden we are slowing while the Catalina behind
comes up and starts to pass. The crew notice his sails are looser and
adjust similiarly. Just as it seems he is about to roll us, we hit a
new gear and leave him by 3 boatlengths. I am sailing high, but the
crew is saying go low. So we foot a bit. 2 boats ahead are starting to
luff one another, so we go high for a couple of minutes and try and
stay in clear air. They finally stop screwing around and we end up the
winner with a good gain to bring us within 50 yards of them. Out of
the blackness come 2 slow A boats going at it tooth and nail. They
cross ahead and then tack&cover to starboard. Great, now we have 2
competitors ahead and 2 BIG boats to windward. Luckily we are in a
pocket of air between them. We can keep up, but cann't get ahead. The
Catlina 27 behind gets into the big boats turbulence and slows to a
crawl. We are working the sails hard not to be the next victim.
To windward comes a hellbent 26 footer. There is nothing much
I can do but curse myself for going low early. With the wind dropping,
I don't want to take a chance of losing momentium in a luffing match,
so I let them roll over us. Just as they do, they get into the lee of
the big boats and it stops them cold. But now they are affecting us.
We have to get out of there. So we harden up and go high on the 26
footer and the two A boats. As we do, the 26 footer comes up to block
us. Once we are high of the two boats, I cut down behind a bit to get
on their leeward hip and try and push them out of the way, and to let
them know we are done being nice guys (our bow mounted danforth had to
be inches off his stern light). Neither of us gains, so we hold on for
the ride in dying airs. By going high, we both pass the A boats. We
finish right behind the 26 footer and he owes us tons of time. As we
cross the line, the wind drops to zip. Great, now everyone behind will
never make their time on us. Overall, 3rd out of 13. Missed 2nd by 2
seconds.
What went right / What could we have done better?
Watching the flags put us on the right course this week.
Never give up. Everyone is going to screw up sooner or later in
front of you.
The vang is continueing to make a huge difference in
reaching/running
Should have noticed the wind clocking before the race and prepared a
different sail plan.
On a tight reach, it is good the loosen and retrim the sails every
couple of minutes to make sure they are set optimally.
Trim the sails, not the boat. And talk about what you are going to do
so the trimmers can work with you.
Overall, boat speed is good, we are watching the tell tales and
course flags. Too bad there are only 2 more weeks to go.
Need to relax out there. Nothing will get you more tense then hearing the
splashing of water from a competitor's bow getting louder and louder.
If any of you read about racing, you can see we are past the
basics and starting into all those little items that get/keep you at
the top of the fleet. The crew is skilled (even cross trained), dependable,
and having fun, so there is lots of time to offer opinions. This is really
fun in having people from different types of sailing think out what needs
to be done in each situation and adjust. And it gets everyone
contributing, instead of sitting on the rail as ballast.
Class A
1 Arco Iris Miguel Martinez
2 Face Off Norm Reid
3 Oracle Geoffrey Wilson
4 Orion J. Chafey
5 Vapor Trail Bob McLemore
6 Bellatrix George Pawle
7 Comotion Jim Mega
8 Toot Sweet Jim MacNeill
9 Celista Ed Walsh
10 Wave Dancer Barry Johnson
11 Campbell's Slp Dave cCampbell
12 Windever Sam Cooper
Class B
1 Bonnie Lassie William Callahan
2 Floating Asset Steven Goldberg
3 Knotless Ken Bowden
4 Bridget Gerry Fennessy
5 Al Fresco Kurt Pelsue
6 Black Sheep Richard Carter
Class C
1 Blitz John Allen
2 Pao's Cat Paul Odierno
3 Erna Ann John Kalinowski
4 Tobasco John Dionne
5 Bust Off George Bernier
6 Seaductress Larry Proulx
7 Vinga James Henderson
8 Kookaburra Marty Galligan
9 Lisa Marie Steve Hillis
10 Jaeger Brandt Binns
11 Off Beat Philip Lowe
12 Marie Anne John Gallo
13 Serendipity John Sweeney
Class J
1 Blue Fox John Caldwell
2 White Heat Mary Ann Launt
3 Sharkbite Neal Whittredge
4 Catch-22 Joseph Grenier
5 Shearwater Andrew Card
6 Garuda William Mann
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845.820 | Driving with your eyes closed..... | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Sep 22 1995 13:58 | 142 |
|
Subj: 21 September Race Results
Wind ENE 3-4, 1 foot swells, both the remainents of Hurricane Marilyn.
Tide is near low. Light overcast. Starting gun due at sunset.
We had the full crew. Light airs meant a 150% and full main. When
we got the course the wind started to fill in a little bit, but so did
the swells coming into the sound. The A boats got off ok. On the J/24
boats, one forgot to bring his main and ended up rigging a 110 jib in
it's place (don't ask, and yes they did pretty well).
Just after the A boats left, the horn sounded on the committee
boat so we all got real quiet. Sure enough, a course change. Probably
shaved a mile off the distance, but it was going to run us by every
island and shoal in Salem Sound in the dark. Swell, just Swell.........
We timed the folks before us and determined we needed a lot of
time to get to the line, so we started with 3.5 minutes to go. We were
going well with about a 1:15 when a leeward boat with anti-barging
tactics in his eyes shows up, so we duck him. Luckily nobody is to
leeward, so we fall off a bit for speed. 10 seconds late at the start,
but about half the boats are behind us. We foot a bit and make some
gains. When we see an opening, we tack off for port. Just as we get
to the layline, our old buddy, the Pearson 424 goes by (It's bad when
you catch a guy in 400 yrds who started 5 minutes before you). We sail
a bit more to give us some wiggle room at the mark. But the swells
have built and with the tide going in, we have trouble laying the
mark. The Pearson bails out in front of us, but by then it is too late
to get any speed, so we bail out too and gybe/tack inside their
circle. The boats coming down on stbd are screwed as the 424 kills any
air they might have had. So we reround nicely but have lost a boat. A
28fts ahead goes a bit high and pops the chute. We are to leeward and
this kills our air. We catch up with them by the next mark, but
everyone in front is getting away.
At the mark, we head right where most people go left. The reason were:
1. less boats meant real clean air
2. The fastest boat in the fleet also went right.
We do pretty well in the building swells. It is hard to drive as you
can't see a thing without a flash light. 1/2 way up we tack to stbd
again and find we have closed on the boat in front. 2 sets of tacks
and now we are ahead of them. Strbd tack is really tough as the swells
are pushing us back. So we tack off to port to get as far upwind as
possible. Nearing the layline the wind dies a bit. Then one crewmember
goes "what's that noise". Looking around we locate a submerged shoal
in front of us breaking the swells. Quickly we spin the boat around.
All around seem to be more shoals, so we quitely foot to get out of
there with our keel. When we think we are clean, we tack off to port
again, only to have it happen with another shoal. Again, we tack to
stbd. Now are are on the far right of the course, the tide and waves
are slowing us down on port like we are dragging a line of lobster
traps. The wind freshens, but on the left side of the course. All
the boats on the left side of the course fly by us in the dark up
ahead. Oh well, at least we didn't beach the puppy. Right about then
a small island appears out of the darkness dead ahead, so we tack off
and hold course until we get near the turning mark. The rest was your
basic reach in the dark through the shoals to the finish. We made up a
bit of time here, but nothing that could make up for our mistakes.
Overall 8 out of 13.
What could we do better?
- In the dark, the good 'ol boys with 15 years of local knowledge knew
what was going to happen. Not much can be done except to learn from
this.
- I broke one of my major rules which is play the middle of the
course. Bells should have been going off when I commited to the right
side on a night where we knew there would be a windshift, but couldn't
tell when.
- Need to overstand even more when the waves and tide are against us
in light airs. Lost enough time in rerounding to make up at least 1
place, and probably 2.
- Need to get a cheap timex wind up watch for a crewperson. Twice in a
row they wrapped the winch line on backwards much to the chargrin of
the folks winching the line at the next tack. We determined they have
been wearing a digital watch too long. Maybe the Unibomber has
something there about too much technology is screwing up the world ;>)
- Tacks when well, we watch the courses changes, and we learned where
to be careful of shoals.
We'll just chock it up for chuckles. Next week is the end of the
season.
Class A
1 Orion J. Chafey
2 Oracle Geoffrey Wilson
3 Toot Sweet Jim MacNeill
4 Arco Iris Miguel Martinez
5 Bellatrix George Pawle
6 Vapor Trail Bob McLemore
7 Comotion Jim Mega
8 Celista Ed Walsh
9 Wave Dancer Barry Johnson
10 Windever Sam Cooper
Class B
1 Rampage William Kuzmar
2 Knotless Ken Bowden
3 Al Fresco Kurt Pelsue
4 Elusive Robert Jaremzek
5 Bridget Gerry Fennessy
6 Floating Asset Steven Goldberg
7 Karol L Armand Gallo
8 Black Sheep Richard Carter
9 Bonnie Lassie William Callahan
Class C
1 Vinga James Henderson
2 Bust Off George Bernier
3 Pao's Cat Paul Odierno
4 Blitz John Allen
5 Tobasco John Dionne
6 Seaductress Larry Proulx
7 Lisa Marie Steve Hillis
8 Erna Ann John Kalinowski
9 Kookaburra Marty Galligan
10 Jaeger Brandt Binns
11 Answered Prayer Robert Libert
12 Marie Anne John Gallo
13 Off Beat Philip Lowe
Class J
1 Catch-22 Joseph Grenier
2 Sharkbite Neal Whittredge
3 Blue Fox John Caldwell
4 White Heat Mary Ann Launt
5 Red Dog Jeff Dropkin
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845.821 | Reasons to stay right last night | WONDER::BRODEUR | | Fri Sep 22 1995 15:12 | 13 |
|
John, you done right by staying to the right "as the fast boats
were". Wind was supposed to be shifting to the right AND the current is
much lighter near the shoals than in the middle of the channel. Just
have to make sure you don't get toooooo close to the rocks. We did this
on Belatrix and it worked out well.
Paul
ps. Chutes at night are FUN!
One race to go....
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845.822 | Tired crew | POWDML::OLSALT::DARROW | O2B Retired! (and play full time) | Fri Sep 22 1995 16:16 | 8 |
| John,
Dont be too hard on the crew member who wrapped the winch in reverse. Thats
the same crew member who now insures you are sailing on the right course.
Its also the crew member who has been generating good crew spirit by bring
them something to eat.
Fred
|
845.823 | prepare us for winter withdrawl, JK | DELNI::CARTER | | Thu Oct 05 1995 10:47 | 8 |
| Hey John K.
Time for a recap of last week's race, isn't it. We won't be seeing
many more local (New England) race reports until next spring unless we
have some frostbiters lurking here.
djc
|
845.824 | It's coming.... | MCS873::KALINOWSKI | | Thu Oct 05 1995 16:44 | 8 |
|
Dave
I will do not only last week's race, but Sunday's too. I have
just been busy as a beaver here and haven't had the chance to
detail the biggest fau pax of the season.
Stay tuned.
|
845.825 | Fun ride to Baltimore | GRANPA::KILGORE | Dan @ Washington | Mon Oct 23 1995 12:01 | 80 |
| I'm not a regular contributor to Sailing but thought I'd share my end-of-
season race.
I had a fun ride this weekend. Bob Putman on MOUSETRAP, (this year's
J-30 Chesapeake Bay Highpoint winner BTW) needed some beef on the rail
for the expected blow when the Front passed through on Saturday. He
asked me to join for the Fells Point Race. It's a fun race at the end
of the season that I think is promoted by the Fell Point Businessmen. The
finish-line is at the end of the dock in Baltimore's inter-harbor and
the party is pretty good.
At the start it was raining buckets, the air temp was mid 40s with a
.5 knot adverse current and a little dying SE wind of 5 knots and
falling. There were no fair weather sailors out this day, as we only
had 3 J-30s at the line out of a fleet that usually puts 12 to 15 boats
on the line. The other two boats were TWILIGHT ZONE and BIG KAHUNNA.
We got a running start with
the motor up to the 5 min. gun and glided up to the start-line and set
an anchor as the gun went off. This was not the way to start a race.
It was cold, very wet, and sitting at anchor. It only lasted that way
for about 5 minutes. We saw boats to the West getting knocked on their
ear as a big wind was coming from the West. The anchor was just barely
breaking the surface on the way up when the first wind hit at about 15
knots. We got everything settled down after the initial bang of wind
and started a great close reach up the bay. The wind built over the
next hour to 25 kts. with gusts over 30. We were just barely carrying
the #1 with 7 large crew on the rail, and cracked off the wind a
schouch. We left the other J-30's well behind, both of them were light
on crew because of the weather and they couldn't stand up and point as
well as MOUSETRAP. By the time we reached the mark to turn East for
the short downwind leg, we had a comfortable 10 to 15 boatlength lead.
The wind was really honking now and still pouring down rain. Putnam
decided to do a conservative 1st place call and poled out the genny as
we headed downwind. He said if TWILIGHT ZONE puts up a chute we would,
otherwise not. We tangled with 2 Navy J44s going around the mark, one
rounded up just as his chute filled and almost ran over us. We turned
hard to get out of his way and a second Navy boat came wizzing by on the
other side with his chute filled with 30 feet of halyard swinging from the
masthead. The foot of the chute was dragging in the water and it looked
like the boat was close to running over his own chute. There were some
spectacular roundups and odd looking chute configurations all over the
down wind leg. BIG KAHUNNA ended up breaking her rig and retired back
to Annapolis.
We were having our own problems with the crash jibs getting out of the
Navy's way. We did get the #3 up and for a while had a double headsail
wing & wing. TWILIGHT ZONE stayed clear of traffic, did not set a chute,
and managed to slip inside of us and turned the corner 2 boat lengths
ahead. We were now in a two boat race for the beat West back across the
bay and up the river to Baltimore. We were rigged with full main and
the #3, the wind was blowing steady 30 and the bay chop was building.
It took about 20 minutes but we reeled-in TWILIGHT ZONE. Just as we were
passing to windward, they started to reef their main. They fell way back
while fooling with their sails (later at the party they said they broke
battens while trying to reef) so we were down to a one boat race.
We were still crossing the Navy J44's tacking into the Patapsco River.
But as we got into the river, the wind fell down to the low teens', the
water flatten, and the J44's said bye-bye. We were surprised to have
stayed with them for as long as we did. In the last two hours, the rain
stopped, the sun came out and the temp went up into the 60's just in time
for the party. We beat up the river with the heavy #1
to an anticlimatic gun at the finish. It was a great ride on the bay.
Cheers,
Dan,
<<< Note 845.824 by MCS873::KALINOWSKI >>>
-< It's coming.... >-
Dave
I will do not only last week's race, but Sunday's too. I have
just been busy as a beaver here and haven't had the chance to
detail the biggest fau pax of the season.
Stay tuned.
|
845.826 | JYC Thursday Night Series Info | 26178::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Mar 29 1996 09:46 | 81 |
|
Looking to have some fun on Thursday nights this year?
Want to go head to head with the locals you see on Sunday?
What to see your name at the top of the heap in the Boston Globe on
Fridays?
Want to see the nicest sunsets ?
Or see your name in the final results in this note stream on no matter
where you finished? Here is your chance.
Edited from the Jubilee Yacht Club Regatta Committee E-mails.
The Regatta Committee schedule of events for the 96 racing
season is as follows:
April 11 PHRF Sign Up Night
May 9 Skippers Meeting
May 16 First Spring Series Race
July 25 Last Spring Series Race
August 1 First Fall Series Race
October 3 Last Fall Series Race
The annual PHRF sign-up night is on April 11 at 1900. All are
welcome to fill out a form to receive their PHRF rating
whether they are members of JYC or not.
The familiar Thursday evening race courses have been modified
slightly and a new course added to the list. For wind
conditions that don't exactly fit the fixed courses the race
committee has the option of setting "Flexible" race courses
and portable marks. Please plan to attend the Skipper's
Meeting on May 9th for the latest details. The Thursday
evening races are open to anyone, JYC member or not, spread
the word and bring your friends. The YRUMB book will have
coupons good for one free Thursday evening race in order to
let people try their hand at some fun racing before they have
to commit to a series. The various starting sequences and
race courses will be explained at the Skipper's meeting.
Several captains are looking for crew. If you would like to
crew on a boat, or are a captain needing crew, please come to
the PHRF sign up night and speak to one of the regatta
committee members.
Volunteers are needed to assist on the committee boat, no
experience needed, only the desire to get involved and help
out.
Classes:
The Thursday Evening fleet break points and the starting times
for the five fleets are:
Fleet Rating Starting Time
A <100 18:25 (Very fast boats...)
B 100 - 164 18:25 (Fast boats)
J 174 18:30 (only j-24s need apply)
C 165 - 209 18:35 (~ 35-30 footer)
D >210 18:40 (us slugs)
I believe it was mentioned that Kites would be used again this year,
but you say at the beginning of a series that you are going to use it.
If so, you eat the penelity whether you pop it or not.
After the races, we all go back to the club for cool ones,pizza and
hot dogs, lots of lies, and of course the awards cerimony.
JYC is located in Beverly Mass, near the old port marine. The folks
sailing are both members and non members (I'd say about 50/50). They
come from Beverly, Salem, and Marblehead, along with the occaction
dihards from Boston. The racing is very friendly.
The cost last year was around $85 for both series and your rating. You
can also buy individual races, so you can warm up in a couple spring
races before getting serious for the fall series.
|
845.827 | | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 881-6355 | Tue Apr 02 1996 13:55 | 25 |
| Hi John,
I need two things:
Directions to the club from 128,
and a CLASS E for Holiday II.
I think I will give it a go at some casual racing this spring.
Holiday II probably has a four digit PHRF, so if I want to win
anything it had better be my own class, CLASS E.
If people, Mike Kstaskis included, are interested in
crewing for a couple o' four spring races give me a call, or
E mail etc. Passengers (kids, and dead balast count), are
welcome. Holiday II is out for self improvement, so skill is
not an issue, beginners on up (heck I have never been in an
officail boat race of any type).
Remember the skipper's word is law, and she is currently in
Colorado Springs.
Doug
dtn 881-6355
hm 603 881-9334
|
845.828 | directions | 26178::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Apr 05 1996 11:31 | 20 |
|
Can't help you on your own class, but you can't do much worse than
some of the boats. There is a Pearson 424 with EVERYTHING on board. In
light airs, they use a calander to figure his time. When it blows, he
places, as it is the only boat that doesn't have to reduce canvas and
hang on.
Directions:
Rt 128 to rt 62 toward Beverly. Go straight through the 1st light at
the end of the exit ramp, the second one 200yds up the street, the
3rd one about a mile up the street. Now you will get to the 4th
which is actually in downtown. Turn right and head toward Salem. As
you get out of town, you will come down a hill with Port Marine and an
Old McDonalds on the left just before the new bridge across to Salem.
Turn left onto the road in front of Port Marine (a giant red building
with lots of Speedboats surrounding it). Follow the street to the
end. the club is the last building on the right.
|
845.829 | Sign up this thursday | 26178::KALINOWSKI | | Mon Apr 08 1996 10:47 | 16 |
| Subj: PHRF Reminder
Hello racers:
The PHRF sign up is his Thursday evening, 4/11/96, at 7:30 PM
is in the main hall at the JYC.
The cost is $25.00. A check payable to the "Jubilee Yacht
Club" is the preferred method of payment.
If you plan to race this year you will need a PHRF
certificate. Please remind your friends and bring them along.
Paul A. Odierno
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845.830 | PHRF | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 881-6355 | Fri Apr 12 1996 10:06 | 14 |
| It is surprising. No one seems to race a 30 year old cruising boat with wood
spares except for me. The initial indication is that my PHRF is higher than
the one for Bakers Island. It will take a month or so to get the certificate.
The May 9th skipper's meeting is important. The courses have changed etc.
Apparrently they are enough differnt that old course maps are best left at
home. Racing starts the following week.
My crew is filling out, two never ever's, one small boat sailor, possibly a
stink potter, a neophyte racing skipper, and an marine mechanic :-). This
ought to put the fear of God into the fleet.
Doug Claflin
dtn 391-6355
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845.831 | Warsash spring series Web Site | SMARIO::BARKER | Cracking Toast, Gromit ! | Fri Apr 12 1996 10:29 | 12 |
| If you are interested in what is going on in the UK at the moment, take a look at the Warsash Spring Series Web
page...
http://www.aladdin.co.uk/sihe/wsc/spring/
Results, reports and pictures.
Racing takes place on Sunday Mornings, 3 before Easter and 3 after. All races so far have been COLD!!!
I am on Olivia Anne IV - CHS 4, not out of the running yet, but we need more wind.
Chris
|
845.832 | | 26178::KALINOWSKI | | Wed May 08 1996 13:09 | 4 |
| For the action at Jubilee, use:
http://www.shore.net/~starbd/jycthurs.html
All last year's score are there. Next week, the 96 season begins....
|
845.833 | Sure it's miserable, but it beats shoveling snow.... | 26178::KALINOWSKI | | Fri May 17 1996 13:53 | 118 |
| First race of the season. 50 degrees, wind sw @12 knts. Rain, rain, and more
rain. We hear several radio calls to committee boat to call it off. Fog
starting to come into the sound from open ocean. waves 1-2 ft.
Only 25 of 63 boat signed up for the season are on the line. Many of these
didn't have their sails on board 2 hours before the race because of our cold
wet spring. We are 1 person short for the tonight.
5 minutes to the gun and we notice one of the mailsail slugs is not in the
track. Too late to bring the sail down and rehoist. 3 minutes to the gun and
the outhaul knot lets go. Quickly we try to get it fixed. Comments from a Gene
Ho email about an outhaul design I was thinking about come mind {your right
Gene, 2:1 is not going to cut it }.
We get to the line a tad early, but everyone is bunching at the port pin, so we
slide down a bit. We get off clean, but with little momenteum. The other 4
boats are fighting it out. Using the new knotmeter, we start to experiment,
finding that footing 5-10 degrees give us .3 of a knot more speed and is worth
the distance. We start to pull away, but then the genoa sheet uncleats. We fix
this quickly but rebuilding our speed against a foul current and waves drops us
to 2nd or 3rd. We start to build some speed. The wind is clocking
counter-clockwise, so we go with it. This gets us a bit of a gain. Getting to
about .5 a mile from the mark we decide to tack over to port. At the crossing
we are in 2nd, but 3rd and 4th are right there too.
We head for Gray's rock off marblehead. The boat is overpowered so we
let off the traveler a bit. Looks like we can just about stand the mark, but
that chunk of rocky island is getting closer all the time. I ask the crew and
they say "hey, it's your hull, you call it and we'll tack". After the tack
we have the mark easily. We barrel at it as the other boats are all coming
in on port. The 1st boat just crosses ahead of us, but with our speed, they
cannot get up to speed to cover. We round in 1st.
The rain is brutal and I can't see through me glasses anymore. We start
a downwind run wing and wing with a spinaker pole on the genny. We forgot to
adjust the topping lift, and the recut main looks much to flat. But we decide
to leave it alone. The boats behind go out toward the ocean a bit.
One has a kite, so there is not much we can do. The other (Vinga) slowly comes
down on us. He has both sails to leeward. The wind counterclocks a bit more and
he around us to windward. It is too nasty a night for luffing games so we let
him go. We try going high on him, but he has better speed. So we try and go low
to have an inside overlap at the mark, but again, his speed prevents this.
At the turning mark, Vinga explodes out of the blocks. Next thing we know he
has 60 metres on us. Man he is flying. the crew continues to adjust the sails
and we finally can keep up with him, maybe even do a bit better, but with
3/4 a mile to go this will be tough. He reels in the 1st place boat and tries
to go low. Great, that will block his wind. We go high playing the sails. We
make up a lot of the time, but Still are a minute behind at the end. The
reach is brutal for me as I am sitting on the leeward side, and that loose
footed main is catching every drop of the downpour and dumping it right on my
head ;>( . It is getting colder every minute out there. Are we having fun
yet? You bet we are... Overall 3rd of 5.
Lessons learned:
This was the first sail of the season, and not all was ready. Not much can
be done this year. We need to practice starts to get our timing down.
The new knotmeter is a great monitoring tool. We have learned to be less
agressive on resheeting after a tack, as we actually get back up to boat
speed faster. It is also helpful in determining which tweeks are helpful and
which are not.
The recut main is great. It flattens so much nicer, and it is easier
to the shape the way you want it .
Should have expected the wind to clock on the downwind run because it did
on the initial beat. This cost us.
Can't forget the topping lift and outhaul on the run. This really cost us.
The recut main is so flat, it has to be adjusted where the old one had so
much flab, it could be left alone .
Got to fix the cleats for the sheets. These have a bad habit of failing
at the wrong time.
In A class a new competitor, a fingulf 38 did very well. Although over early
and having to reround, and not using a kite, they got right back into the
fight by the windward mark.
For actual times, course length, boat specs and ratings, check the JYC web
page at: http://www.shore.net/~starbd/jycthurs.html
CLASS A
1 Orion Jim Chafey
CLASS B
1 Wave Dancer Barry Johnson
2 Vapor Trail Bob McLemore
3 Addiction Michael Royer
4 Bonnie Lassie William Callahan
5 Gold Watch Horst Lachmayr
6 Toot Sweet Jim MacNeil
7 Jacqueline Marie Ronald Brochu
CLASS C
1 Knotless Ken Bowden
2 Karol L Armand Gallo
CLASS D
1 Blitz John Allen
2 Vinga Jim Henderson
3 Enra Ann John Kalinowski
4 Kokaburra Marty Galligan
5 Lisa Marie Steve Hollis
CLASS J
1 Sharkbite Neal Whittredge
2 Red Dog Jeff Dropkin
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845.834 | Start and course | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Mon May 20 1996 14:35 | 8 |
| Just out of curiosity what was the course and starting number?
We should be racing Holiday II this coming Thursday.
do you have your real Delta flag, and can I liberate your improvised one?
Doug
603 886 6769 home
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845.835 | | POWDML::OLSALT::DARROW | | Mon May 20 1996 17:11 | 11 |
| The Start was 7 and the Course was D.
Start is really first mark of the course.
I do not care what anyone saind about having fun, it was juist plain
C O L D and W E T ! ! !
BUT, I will try it again this Thursday!
Fred
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845.836 | weather should be good Thursday | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Tue May 21 1996 09:09 | 8 |
| The current weather report indicates temperatures in the 70's on thursday.
It may actually be a little on the cool side.
A cold front is supposed tocome through tomorrow evening. Thunder and
light'nin and rain, oh my. (Judy Garland eat your heart out). I am going
to get killed in the resulting light winds (even with my 291 handicap).
Doug
|
845.837 | No rain or wind | 26022::KALINOWSKI | | Wed May 29 1996 13:29 | 296 |
|
Weather, Sunny, but lots of clouds on land. Haze on open ocean. Started
out with about 12 knots of breeze. We got a so-so start. Should have
tacked out, but with a consistently veering wind, it looked like a
straight stb run to the pin. We got behind a larger boat. We were being
gassed, but decided to hold in there as speed difference was not that
great.
150 yards from pin, a couple of C boats crossed in front of us. We had
slowed down considerably, so the outgoing tide was not going to allow
us to get to the pin. So we double tacked. 2 boats that had tacked off
initially were now ahead, but not by much.
At the pin there were a ton of boats. Several had given us coniptions
in the past trying to round the mark on a wing and a prayer (mostly
prayer), so we left extra room to fall off and still round if we
needed to. At the rounding we were on the stb hip of 1 boat with
3 larger boats to his port side. They were having their own little
civil war/luff match, so the two of us got away just a bit. The
wind started to die to about 4-5 knts.
I went to the port side so I couldn't be luffed, but I could not
draw even. As we got to the next stb turning mark the 3 boats
to my port started coming down on us as we were driving deeper angles
then they. We gave room to the boat on starboard and managed to hold
off the horde behind for half a leg. Finally, one of the C boats
drove over us. A half hearted luff slowed him but a moment. We
couldn't attack because of the fear of letting several boats by on
leeward.
The next mark was a turn to port and out to sea. We went in a bit
high, and then headed up the right side of the course in 3rd. Most
boats went left. The wind died. We were in a channel and it drifted
us for about 45 minutes. We had hoped the wind would return from
the right, but it came from the left, and feable at
best. Luckily we reacted pretty well to it. We got to the next mark
off Marblehead in 3rd, just behind the 2nd place boat. The 1st
place boat was gone with his light weight and kite. about 1/2
the way down the leg, a friend of ours new to racing decides to
roll us to weather, we try 1 luff, then a 2nd. We finally tack
off as he goes over us in his larger boat in a different class.
A short run and we tack back. Looks like we did not lose too much
distance, but we no longer have the clean air we did before. 3
boats are in front of us heading for the last turning leg. The
wind decides to quit. With the tide going out, this gets ugly.
Takes about 1.5 hours to complete this 1 mile leg. Getting near
the mark, we lose our momentum, and get turned sideways. The
tide starts taking us out to sea by way of a rather large daymark.
About 30 yrds from the mark a zepher comes through, and we can
at least turn the boat away from getting grounded.
All this fun and games lets everyone except 1 boat by us. We
finally round and finish the race, 3 hour 40 minutes later.
Luckily I had stocked the boat with cool ones to prevent a
mutiny. Once finished, we race to get back before the launch
service ends for the night. Everyone has gone home after eatting
all the goodies. Oh Well, chalk it up as penence.
What we need to do differently:
1. Should have tacked out up front for clean air. We kept up with
the boat in front, but he was not moving very fast.
2. Never should have given up the inside overlap on the 1st
downwind leg with a dieing breeze. We could have been in 2nd
using rights at the next mark.
3. We reset the topping lift but forgot to release the outhaul.
the recut main is way to flat to allow this on a super light
air night.
4. Had a little talk with our friend about not picking on us
boats in the slower classes. Should be all set now.
*** Result edited to fit 80 columns ***
Thursday Night Race 5/23/96
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RC052396
WEATHER
CONDITIONS
DIRECTION SPEED COMMENTS
250 at "150 wind
start, "5-8 shift in
changing middle
A FLEET 0-99
START
COURSE 5
RACE COURSE B
DISTANCE nm 7.42 1 STARTERS
BOAT NAME OWNER BOAT TYPE SAIL FINISH PNLT RATE CORR PLACE
# TIME
ORION Chafey, J. TAYLOR 41 43950 08:04:56 20 34 08:00:44 1
FACE OFF Reid, WILSON 71819 DNS
Norman CUSTOM 40
TANTARA Kellett, S&S 44 1533 DNS
Peter
ORACLE Wilson, FARR IOR 2 AUS DNS
Geoffrey TON 1770
B FLEET 100-164
START
COURSE 5
RACE COURSE B
DISTANCE nm 7.42 11 STARTERS
BOAT NAME OWNER BOAT TYPE SAIL FINISH PNLT RATE CORR PLACE
# TIME
VAPOR TRAIL McLemore, FRERS 33 41160 08:07:10 108 07:53:49 1
Bob
TOOT SWEET MacNeill, APHORIDITE US294 08:10:57 135 07:54:15 2
Jim 101
WAVE DANCER Johnson, HUNTER 43785 08:09:14 20 118 07:54:38 3
Barry 35.5
AIR EXPRESS Goldberg, S2 9.1 31753 08:12:12 132 07:55:53 4
Steve
ARCO IRIS Martinez, J-29 32029 08:11:21 123 07:56:08 5
Miguel
BONNIE Callahan,
LASSIE Bill CAL 9.2 R 31854 08:16:57 159 07:57:17 6
ADDICTION Royer, MikeSOVEREL 27 US 22 08:13:34 126 07:57:59 7
CORONA Colcord, K.S2 9.1 44 08:17:10 132 08:00:51 8
GOLD WATCH Lachmayr, FINGULF 38 50549 08:25:41 120 08:10:51 9
Horst
JACQUELINE Brochu, BENETEAU
MARIE Ronald 400 DNF 12
WINDEVER Cooper, SamCALIPER 40 50126 DNF 12
CAMPBELL'S Campbell, JEANEAU
SLOOP Dave REGATTA 40152 DNS
CILISTA Walsh, Ed TARTAN 41 13555 DNS
BELLATRIX Pawle, NORLIN 34 13170 DNS
George
INFINITY Dragonas, C&C 35-MK 32263 DNS
Peter 3
OVER Balich,
ACHIEVER George J-80 116 DNS
COMMOTION Mega, Jim FRERS 30 41506 DNS
ELUSIVE Jaremzek, C&C 34 21561 DNS
Bob
FAST LANE Zeoli, FRERS 30 11 DNS
Richard
J FLEET ONE DESIGN
START
COURSE 5
RACE COURSE D
DISTANCE nm 5.96 3 STARTERS
BOAT NAME OWNER BOAT TYPE SAIL FINISH PNLT RATE CORR PLACE
# TIME
SHARK BITE Whittredge, J-24 3369 08:09:55 168 07:53:14 1
Neal
RED DOG Dropkin, J-24 108 08:10:28 168 07:53:47 2
Jeff
BLUE FOX Caldwell, J-24 1021 08:19:24 168 08:02:43 3
John
CATCH 22 Grenier, J-24 22 DNS
Joseph
FINNEGAN Bertaux, J-24 3607 DNS
Leonard
GARUDA Mann, Bill J-24 3278 DNS
PUFF BONUS Denapoli, J-24 2112 DNS
Gary
US 42560 J-24 42560 DNS
WHITE HEAT Launt, Mary J-24 3925 DNS
Ann
C FLEET 165-209
START
COURSE 5
RACE COURSE D
DISTANCE nm 5.96 6 STARTERS
BOAT NAME OWNER BOAT TYPE SAIL FINISH PNLT RATE CORR PLACE
# TIME
KNOTLESS Bowden, KenODAY 30 113 08:08:27 20 154 07:53:09 1
SEADUCTRESS Proulx,ERICKSON 123 08:19:03 207 07:58:29 2
Larry26-2
FLASHY Fennessy, MORGAN
ANNIE Gerry 30/2 08:19:56 168 08:03:15 3
CAMELOT Neville, CATALINA 3273 10:14:50 195 09:55:28 4
Charles 30
SERENITY Geany, John TARTAN 41 DNF 7
3000
MARIE ANNE Gallo, JohnCATALINA 763 DNF 7
30
KAROL L Gallo, PEARSON 33 1 DNS
Armand
RAMPAGE Kuzmar, J-22 492 DNS
William
AL FRESCO Pelsue, TARTAN 30 20486 DNS
Kurt
BLACK SHEEP Carter, PEARSON 47 DNS
Rich 424
KENDA Workman, KIRBY 23 43751 DNS
Dan
SERENDIPITY Sweeney, HUNTER 30 1260 DNS
John
KARIBOU Naroski, SEIDLEMAN 129 DNS
Joe 29.9
D FLEET 210-UP
START
COURSE 5
RACE COURSE D
DISTANCE nm 5.96 7 STARTERS
BOAT NAME OWNER BOAT TYPE SAIL FINISH PNLT RATE CORR PLACE
# TIME
BLITZ Allen, JohnRANGER 22 313 08:24:34 20 211 08:03:36 1
KOOKABARRA Galligan, CATALINA 2613 10:13:10 228 09:50:31 2
Marty 27
TABASCO Dionne, C&C 25 12017 10:16:00 237 09:52:27 3
John
ERNA ANN Kalinowski,PEARSON 26 74 10:25:00 225 10:02:39 4
John
LISA MARIE Hollis, ISLANDER 408 10:30:00 225 10:07:39 5
Steve 28
VINGA Henderson, CATALINA 1744 DNF 8
James 27
PAO'S CAT Odierno, CATALINA 5424 DNS
Paul 27
SALT HEIR Caccia, O'DAY 28 202 DNS
Rick
ANSWERED Libert,
PRAYER Robert ODAY 27 808 DNS
BUST OFF Bernier, RANGER 26 10329 DNS
George
MORNNG STAR Evans, ERICKSON 517 DNS
Barbara 29
SEA SPRAY Lowe, Dick BRISTOL 30 3 DNS
WHITE CAP White, CORONADO 967 DNS
Peter 25
OFF BEAT Lowe, SEA SPRITE 330 DNS
Philip 23
JAEGER Binns, SEA SPRITE 567 DNS
Brant 23
HOLIDAY II Claflin, CHOEY LEE 1430 DNS
Doug B 30
SHY JOE O'Connor, CORINTHIAN 457 DNS
Leighton 19
|
845.838 | Tales from the other end | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Mon Jun 03 1996 14:31 | 64 |
| Well Holiday II competed in her first race (ever). We did as expected. In
short we were slaughtered.
The sails got bent on as we headed out of Manchester Harbor. The three
stooges were on the loose.
The races was approximately 5 miles long. We got over from Manchester just in
time for our five minute warning. Strangely enough, we ended up starting only
a few seconds later than I would have desired (~15 seconds behind the gun).
The weather looked like another squall line was going to come through. So we
left our main reefed. Heck it can't hold shape anyway. This sail trim was
actually pretty good. We lost only another 5-10 seconds by the first mark
Right turn and a dead run. The wind dies and Holiday II digs in her heels and
hits the breaks. At the next mark (towards Marblehead) we went from less than
one minute behind the 8th place boat to about 8-9 minutes. Drysdale (?) was
singing "The Party's Over". The Fat Lady wasn't even bothering to warm up.
The next leg had us beating to the windward. Actually a big improvement over
the down wind run. Even so, minutes piled up between us and #8.
One more left turn and a braod reach for the finish. All the other guys had
fairly good wind, we were in dieing airs. We had something of a victory
though, inspite of the committee boat having packed it in and gone home, the
#8 boat's sails were still up (while on her mooring) as we crossed the line.
What did we learn.
We had a blast. Three rookies can do no wrong.
We plan to leave Manchester around 5pm. This will get us to the
start line early. Heck it is the only way anyone will know that we
are in the race unless they have a rear view mirror.
We should really try to get our tacks under 45 seconds (no missing
decimal point). That would have given us 5 minutes (only 10 minutes
out on corrected time).
A wisker pole/spinaker pole for the jib would be really nice. Hope
to get the old wood spinnaker pole this week.
Need to fix the outhaul on the main. It is sloppy and was slipping.
That is probably good for several more minutes. Note: I do mean
minutes, not second minutes (seconds). Rigger's fault again. I have
a really stupid rigger. Should be some sort of correction tomorrow.
Tighten down the standing rigging. This is good for the spars and
helps performancs. The stupid rigger should take care of this
tomorrow.
Fire the tactician. He is as bad as the rigger. I refuse to admit
who I am.
Need ice to go with the sodas.
Get to the post mortem at the yacht club, before the bar issues last
call.
With luck, we will only need binocculars to see the front of class D. #8 boat
will be only 5 minnutes ahead on corrected time (double that in real life).
John can give you a competitor's blow by blow account.
Doug
|
845.839 | A view from the middle (and the back) of the pack | 26178::KALINOWSKI | | Tue Jun 04 1996 17:00 | 313 |
|
Race 3
Rain sqwalls with wind appx 15 knts. High tide just hitting as we left
the dock.
Looked a lot like race #1 weather wise. At least there was wind. Course
was a D course (check the web site mentioned above for full color pictures of
the courses and start).
Crew keeps an eye out to make sure there are no changes of course as
the wind starts to die 10 minutes before our start. No change.
We get aggressive at the start with a man on the bow. We may have been a
bit over early, but a competitor closer to the committee boat wipes out their
view as they jump the gun. We get a good start on Starboard at the stb end in
about 4th with some speed. The Catalina 27 to our leeward rolls over a smaller
boat. We try and go high, but cannot go over him as the speed differences are
minimal. A second CATAlina 27 tries to roll us, so we do a defensive luff and
he backs off. Getting near the mark (this has been a starboard drag race) the
Catalina behind gets under us a bit. We let him go as we hope to broad reach a
bit on the left side of the course, and we know he will be running a kite
straight downwind.
As we round the windward mark, we are in 4th. The wind veers a tad and drops
some more to about 5 knts. We let everything loosen up and send crew forward.
There is still a good chop coming straight at us as the current from the tide
is starting against us. It seems like we cannot get any boat speed no matter
what we do. The 4 boats behind us are wing on wing right next to each other and
they are cutting off any breezes coming our way. They gain quickly. We can see
Doug behind them with enough sail up to match race clipper ships. We have our
wing on wing deployed the opposite of everyone else. Up front, the Catalinas
are doing each other up so although they are getting away from us, it is not
very quickly.
Then the little 22 footer the Big Catalina had scuffed off earlier, but who
had gotten right back into it by using a kite does a killer luff to get even.
The Catalina captain is checking out the stitching in his genny as it backwinds
big time with a spinnaker pole holding it out. Man, payback can be a bi*ch.
We slide over to the left to get clear air, but it is no use, we cannot get
any speed up. The 4 boats catch us and drive to the right of us, trying to
crowd us at the turning mark off Marblehead. The waves are really building
as the tide is now kicking in big time, while the air is light. Near the
mark, I hear a noise and see one of my crew flopping around like Tinkerbell
with his arm caught on the outhaul/boom. By the time we round, we have gone
from 4th to 8th in one leg. But we have been racing a while, and refuse to
give in.
The next leg is a 1.2 mile beat toward Misery Island. We go high by 30 metres
from the rhumb line everyone else is sailng. This allows us clean air and
mimimizes the chances anyone is going to luff us. The wind comes back to
about 10 knts. We quickly roll a small daysailor, a 25' boat similiar to
ours, followed by an older Catalina 27, but we owe them all time. We have
got to get moving...
We are playing the sails and apparent wind angles big time. We catch up to a
28 footer we rate equal to. A slight wind shift and we have the layline,
while everyone else will be footed. The Catalina 27 behind us
tacks off and starts to follow us. No problem as long as I can hold my time
on him.
The next turning mark will involve a tack with a beat to the finish line. The
28 footer ahead and to leeward tacks and starts coming at us. We have him, but
just to his leeward is a big 37 footer that can suck more air than a vaccum
cleaner. We duck him and continue our course past the mark. The 28 footer goes
inside us and gets ahead of us. We go on for 30 yards and then tack. We now are
behind the 28 footer but we are 30 yards to windward of the starboard tack
parade heading for the finish. At first we barely gain, but then we gain more
and more as all the boats ahead (3 classes worth) tear up the wind. We
start reeling everyone in. We roll the 28 footer and then our wind shadow does
him in. The 25 footer behind is doing the same thing as us. Nothing we can do
but sail to our numbers and hope it is good enough.
Ahead we see 1 catalina 27 go low, then come high on the line. Oh No! now
someone is getting into our nice clean air and chances are everyone is
going to follow. Then a Salem triangle (similiar to Bermuda triangle, only
1 boatlength in size) pins the interloper for a moment. We get ready for a
microburst, but it never shows up. The benefit is nobody now wants to come up
and take a chance. So we play the sheets and crew weight to keep the boat in
optimal heel. We cross with enough time take back 4th and just miss 3rd
according to our stop watches and the chart of competitors one of the
crew has created. The hard work and tactics have paid off.
What did we do wrong?
We should have placed 2nd if we had sailed downwind better. We were baffled as
we did everything we should have. Only things we will try next time would
be:
- we should have gone right instead of left on the course.
- we should have flipped our wing on wing when everyone caught us
so easily.
- We found out we have our sheet attachment to the spinnaker pole too tight
and this can kill performance downwind. We will try some modifications
next time.
Need to be a bit less aggressive at the start. Next time there may not be
anywhere to hide.
********************************************************************************
WEATHER
CONDITIONS
DIRECTION SPEED COMMENTS
25 to 355 8-10
A FLEET 0-99
START
COURSE 3
RACE COURSE D
DISTANCE nm 5.02 0 STARTERS
BOAT NAME OWNER BOAT TYPE SAIL FINISH PNLT RATE CORR PLACE
# TIME
ORACLE Wilson, FARR IOR 2 AUS DNS
Geoffrey TON 1770
ORION Chafey, J. TAYLOR 41 43950 DNS
FACE OFF Reid, WILSON 71819 DNS
Norman CUSTOM 40
TANTARA Kellett, S&S 44 1533 DNS
Peter
B FLEET 100-164
START
COURSE 3
RACE COURSE D
DISTANCE nm 5.02 10 STARTERS
BOAT NAME OWNER BOAT TYPE SAIL FINISH PNLT RATE CORR PLACE
# TIME
ARCO IRIS Martinez, J-29 32029 07:23:42 123 07:13:25 1
Miguel
ADDICTION Royer, MikeSOVEREL 27 US 22 07:25:20 129 07:14:32 2
TOOT SWEET MacNeill, APHORIDITE US294 07:25:53 135 07:14:35 3
Jim 101
BONNIE Callahan,
LASSIE Bill CAL 9.2 R 31854 07:28:14 159 07:14:56 4
VAPOR TRAIL McLemore, FRERS 33 41160 07:23:00 20 88 07:15:38 5
Bob
GOLD WATCH Lachmayr, FINGULF 38 50549 07:25:57 120 07:15:55 6
Horst
CORONA Colcord, K.S2 9.1 44 07:27:48 132 07:16:45 7
WAVE DANCER Johnson, HUNTER 43785 07:29:57 10 128 07:19:14 8
Barry 35.5
JACQUELINE Brochu, BENETEAU
MARIE Ronald 400 07:32:23 144 07:20:20 9
WINDEVER Cooper, SamCALIPER 40 50126 07:48:30 153 07:35:42 10
CAMPBELL'S Campbell, JEANEAU
SLOOP Dave REGATTA 40152 DNS
CILISTA Walsh, Ed TARTAN 41 13555 DNS
BELLATRIX Pawle, NORLIN 34 13170 DNS
George
INFINITY Dragonas, C&C 35-MK 32263 DNS
Peter 3
AIR EXPRESS Goldberg, S2 9.1 31753 DNS
Steve
OVER Balich,
ACHIEVER George J-80 116 DNS
COMMOTION Mega, Jim FRERS 30 41506 DNS
ELUSIVE Jaremzek, C&C 34 21561 DNS
Bob
FAST LANE Zeoli, FRERS 30 11 DNS
Richard
J FLEET ONE DESIGN
START
COURSE 3
RACE COURSE D
DISTANCE nm 5.02 3 STARTERS
BOAT NAME OWNER BOAT TYPE SAIL FINISH PNLT RATE CORR PLACE
# TIME
SHARK BITE Whittredge, J-24 3369 07:30:13 168 07:16:10 1
Neal
BLUE FOX Caldwell, J-24 1021 07:31:34 168 07:17:31 2
John
RED DOG Dropkin, J-24 108 07:31:52 168 07:17:49 3
Jeff
CATCH 22 Grenier, J-24 22 DNS
Joseph
FINNEGAN Bertaux, J-24 3607 DNS
Leonard
GARUDA Mann, Bill J-24 3278 DNS
PUFF BONUS Denapoli, J-24 2112 DNS
Gary
US 42560 J-24 42560 DNS
WHITE HEAT Launt, Mary J-24 3925 DNS
Ann
C FLEET 165-209
START
COURSE 3
RACE COURSE D
DISTANCE nm 5.02 6 STARTERS
BOAT NAME OWNER BOAT TYPE SAIL FINISH PNLT RATE CORR PLACE
# TIME
SEADUCTRESS Proulx,ERICKSON 123 07:41:57 207 07:24:38 1
Larry26-2
RAMPAGE Kuzmar, J-22 492 07:41:11 177 07:26:22 2
William
CAMELOT Neville, CATALINA 3273 07:44:56 195 07:28:37 3
Charles 30
MARIE ANNE Gallo, JohnCATALINA 763 07:47:43 198 07:31:09 4
30
SERENITY Geany, John TARTAN 41 07:46:53 183 07:31:34 5
3000
SERENDIPITY Sweeney, HUNTER 30 1260 07:47:27 189 07:31:38 6
John
KNOTLESS Bowden, KenODAY 30 113 DNS
KAROL L Gallo, PEARSON 33 1 DNS
Armand
FLASHY Fennessy, MORGAN
ANNIE Gerry 30/2 DNS
AL FRESCO Pelsue, TARTAN 30 20486 DNS
Kurt
BLACK SHEEP Carter, PEARSON 47 DNS
Rich 424
KENDA Workman, KIRBY 23 43751 DNS
Dan
KARIBOU Naroski, SEIDLEMAN 129 DNS
Joe 29.9
D FLEET 210-UP
START
COURSE 3
RACE COURSE D
DISTANCE nm 5.02 9 STARTERS
BOAT NAME OWNER BOAT TYPE SAIL FINISH PNLT RATE CORR PLACE
# TIME
BLITZ Allen, JohnRANGER 22 313 07:46:49 30 201 07:30:00 1
VINGA Henderson, CATALINA 1744 07:48:36 222 07:30:02 2
James 27
PAO'S CAT Odierno, CATALINA 5424 07:49:01 210 07:31:27 3
Paul 27
ERNA ANN Kalinowski,PEARSON 26 74 07:50:41 225 07:31:51 4
John
TABASCO Dionne, C&C 25 12017 07:52:05 237 07:32:15 5
John
KOOKABARRA Galligan, CATALINA 2613 07:52:21 228 07:33:16 6
Marty 27
LISA MARIE Hollis, ISLANDER 408 07:51:22 213 07:33:33 7
Steve 28
JAEGER Binns, SEA SPRITE 567 07:57:19 276 07:34:13 8
Brant 23
HOLIDAY II Claflin, CHOEY LEE 1430 08:13:10 291 07:48:49 9
Doug B 30
SALT HEIR Caccia, O'DAY 28 202 DNS
Rick
ANSWERED Libert,
PRAYER Robert ODAY 27 808 DNS
BUST OFF Bernier, RANGER 26 10329 DNS
George
MORNNG STAR Evans, ERICKSON 517 DNS
Barbara 29
SEA SPRAY Lowe, Dick BRISTOL 30 3 DNS
WHITE CAP White, CORONADO 967 DNS
Peter 25
OFF BEAT Lowe, SEA SPRITE 330 DNS
Philip 23
SHY JOE O'Connor, CORINTHIAN 457 DNS
Leighton 19
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845.840 | Baker Island beat us | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Jun 07 1996 12:32 | 51 |
| Well some things went better than last week, some worse. This week we invented a new
meaning for SLOW. Finally withdrew from the race.
Overal had four crew, one new to Holiday II. Jim has done more racing than the rest of us
combined. So we were only severly handicapped.
We got to the start way early. With 40 minutes to muck around, we got the sails up in the
light wind, tacked a couple of times (down to about 10 seconds), and generally paid
attention to what was going on. One thing that was going on, was no committee boat. We
looked everywhere. It wasn't even in my copious supply bins below decks.
A replacement committee boat came out for a late start. As the wind continued to die, they
postponed the start time. Thus began our downfall. Radio on and binocculars at had we
eventually blew the start. The race got started late.
I bore off at the 5 minute warning for class D. Due to the high winds (3 knots), I thought
Class C was starting (hey they were hanging around the start). In actuallity is was our
class D. I wanted to go out 2 minutes, come about and be at the line for the gun. Well I
went out, Class D started to race, wind died so we lacked way to come about. We finally
crawled across the line 10 minutes late. Even so, we are in bad but not hopeless shape.
We watch boats going no where. I gamble and head towards shore. I get lucky and catch a
zephyr of a shore breeze. holiday II closes to within repsectablity. The course has been
shortened so at this rate we might finish in a hour. Several boats have retired so things
are looking good for us.
As I leave the shore to make the mark, wind goes to zero. This is fun. We clear R12 and
then park for the duration. After about an hour, we have had about as much fun as we can
handle. Radio in and go home.
Things we learned.
Our wood spinnaker pole works reasonably well A toping lift would be nice, but
don't hold your breath.
The windward jib sheet makes for a reasonable guy line.
We actually put some snap shackles on the genoa trucks (which I have never used
before). This seems to have helped some.
My GPS had trouble locking onto satellites. I need to do that so it can make the
corrections from 6400 at home, and 2600 miles to the ocean.
By about 8:45 at night the only thing that moves Holiday II are petroleum products.
I need to be closing on the finish before then, otherwise I should pack it in. Not
fair to people with an hour drive ahead of them.
Rigging seems to be tuned about right, main outhaul works better, mizzen topping
lift seems to be good.
Should have made better use of the ice cubes.
|
845.841 | | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Jun 07 1996 17:15 | 10 |
| Actually John, we packed it in after you had actually finished the race. We
still had the entire leg to run. The committe boat headed for the barn just
minutes after we quit. We adn't even secured our sails yet.
Having said that, I did notice a light breeze flling in as we headed for
Manchester. It felt stronger than what the boat would generate under power.
We will keep that in mind for the next time.
Doug
|
845.842 | | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Jun 14 1996 15:37 | 79 |
| Once more we did not finish the race. But the reasons were based on
seamanship.
Wind was pretty good for us, over 10 knots anyway. We arrived in the
starting area just prior to the class A start. The course put up was
a long one, start 6 (head in towards Salem Harbor, then back out),
and course A (turn between Misery and Bakers Islands, head towards
Marble Head, scot back to Beverly).
We are still muffin the start. This time we were about one minute
late. Class B was bearing down our throats as we starboard tacked
our way towards Salem Harbor. About 1/4 mile from the first mark,
Marble Head made the wind do swirlies. Holiday II was headed by the
wind. Resulting in two avoidable tacks. We picked up another one,
by blowing a tack by backwinding the jib.
Once we were on Course A it was a broad reach. We shook out the reef
on the jib, and spread our laundry to the wind. We actaully started
to close on the rest of the class. At the first mark we were still
ahead of Morning Star (finished 5th). This leads us to beleive that
we would have done quite well. Morning Star owed us 66 seconds a
mile. Over the 8 mile course she would have given up about 9 minutes.
NOAA was reporting severe thunderstorms and hail at Worcester moving
at 35 mph. Every minute we continued to race would pull us further
from Manchester. Descretion being the better part of valor, I
withdrew. The sqaulls never hit. Bummer.
At the time we withdrew we were less than 9 minutes behind the
leaders, and closing on some of the slower boats.
Things that went right,
By and large we are tacking much better. Typically down around 7
seconds. I think this is the most we can really hope for.
Working the sails, especailly triming the mizzen, and reefing the
jib, made a differnce.
Trapping Morning Star behind us until the mark.
Wind.
Things that went wrong. and what to do about it.
Letting Morning Star inside us just after the mark. Next time stay
harder on the wind after rounding. I Morning Start watns to pass us,
she can go leaward.
Being later than desired at the start. Pay a little more attention
to the clock. Be a little more assertive at the start. Still want
to avoid duking it out though.
Getting headed by the wind off of Marble Head. Watch the wind shift
and anticipate it. Not a major transgrection, since we had never
sailed that course before.
Muffed tacks. Don't free the jib sheet until avfter the boom is over
on the new tack. When going windward, either drop the mizzen or play
it so that it doesn't fight the help.
Work the mizzen more when reaching. I noticed our helm had up to 20
degrees of weather helm. Easing the mizzen reduced it to less than
5. I think the boat speed actually increased with the reduced drag.
Keep as much wind in the mizzen as possible without introducing too
much weather helm.
Make the sling for the boom vang. Since I do not have a traveler, a
vang woul have helped alot. I think we could have gotten another
1/2 to 1 knot out of her on the broad reach.
The energy came out of the squall line real fast as the sun set.
While the ocean is cold, the storms have a hard time moving east at
night. This will change in another month. Knowing this, I may be
tempted to hang in there. Then again, one bad storm can ruin your
whole day.
Doug
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845.843 | | BGSDEV::MORRIS | Tom Morris - Light & Sound Engineering | Mon Jun 17 1996 19:21 | 10 |
| >Work the mizzen more when reaching. I noticed our helm had up to 20
>degrees of weather helm. Easing the mizzen reduced it to less than
>5. I think the boat speed actually increased with the reduced drag.
This almost certainly true. You definitely want to do your best to
balance the boat and reduce the amount of weather helm. Don't let
it get to the point of having lee helm, but 20 degrees weather helm
is too much.
Tom
|
845.844 | | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Tue Jun 18 1996 09:26 | 13 |
| When Mark and I were sailing on Sunday we played a little at this.
Holiday II "felt" happiest with about 5 degrees of weather helm.
The tiller makes a pretty good protractor. The angle was based on
calibrated eyeballs.
Lee helm is unacceptable to me. Most important is the safety issue.
Helm is dropped the boat bears off and speeds up. Bad combination.
I deally a free helm should go to irons. Second a performance hit.
A lee helm means that I am getting "negative" lift (is that a drop?)
from my rudder. Moderate weather helm helps me go windward.
Anyhow, we are having fun, which is the purpose of this exercise.
|
845.845 | Light air sailing means patience and looking for puffs | QE004::KALINOWSKI | | Tue Jun 18 1996 13:51 | 40 |
| june 6th. Really light airs. RC boat is 30 min late on station.
Then the Race Committee screws up every start (1
minute too early, 1 minute too late etc). I ask for the time left for
our start and am told to holdon . We make a run at the start with either
4 seconds left or a minute and 4 seconds. It was the later, but we are
at the windward pin. We crawl the line, get the gun a minute later and
force a port tacker off.
On stbd we go for 200 yrds, and then tacked off when we knew we
could get duck through the boats. We find a line of wind and
quietly sail up it. Ahead, a lot of boats in the earlier fleets seem
parked to the right. As we see is wind veer, we tack on it. At
crossings, we have let 2 boats get by with better air. We tack on top
of one of our competitors at a wind line and head out for Misery
Island. The wind builds a bit for us, and dies on everyone who went
right. By really working the boat and giving some speed up, we get to
the windward mark without another set of tacks in 2nd place.
We get no further than 150 yards when the wind just dies on everyone.
30+ boats just bobbing. In the next hour, we move .05 of a mile,
mostly from the outgoing tide. A Catalina behind us puts up a light
kite and slowly moves below us, first catching us, then ahead by
30 yrds. We try and go down to kill the air, but it does nothing.
In the next 20 minutes we move .2 miles. The air is coming in.
We harden up all the sheets to try and get some movement forward caused
by powerboat waves rocking us. One of the crew notices the wind
filling and from in front of us instead of from behind. We quietly
reset sails for light air beating. We start to move. The Catalina
is playing with his kite, unaware of how far forward the wind has
shiffled. Now we have to make up all our time in the last mile as
everyone is bunched together. Playing the winds, we foot a bit extra
and get some speed. We end up in 2nd on the shortened course.
What did we learn?
tacking on the puffs works on big boats too.
the gps told us we were moving when the eye could not detect it. This
saved us from bailing out.
|
845.846 | Crash and Burn | QE004::KALINOWSKI | | Tue Jun 18 1996 14:22 | 65 |
| June 13th blowing 20 but is goes down to 15-17. We use a reefed main
and a 150. NOAA broadcasts an emergecy warning for severe weather. So
what's new? Storm, no wind, Storm, no wind. This is week five so it
must be a storm right? Nothing like wind whistling through the rig.
We get a decent start and roll a 28 footer from below. head out toward
the layline and tack. We go almost all the way to the mark. We are not
going to make it, and the 28 footer is coming down quickly on us. Rather
than pray we make it and chance a foul with two starboard bound boats,
we tack off to starboard, force the 28 footer to tack outside of us,
overstand the mark and then tack back for a rounding. We go around the
windward mark in 3rd with lots of boats on our tail. It is a wonderful
night to be racing with a strong breeze.
We shake out the reef for the 2.5 mile run, and will try and hang
on at the very end when we need to beat back to the finish. We get into
a killer fight with an Oday 27. The boat is fast, and the driver is
good. We try going above and below with no gain. Then we start
really working the sails by driving up, and milking the gust as we
drive back down. We catch him and are on his tail. We both come
up to the leader. He goes high, we go low and we both roll him.
Now we are in 2nd. The battle goes on for another mile. We try to
get under him, but cannot pull away. Man this is great racing at hull
speeds with inches to spare !!!!
At the turn off Bakers island, the wind has veered. Instead of a 1.5 mile
sled ride on the opposite tack, we are going to be beating. The wind
is really gusty as a huge storm surrounds the bay with lightening
everywhere. Wonder if we fill finish before it hits??
We beat on port until we can clear Bakers and then we tack back to
starboard. The wind is up and everyone is on the rail. It is getting
harder to control the boat with the 150 and full main up. Just need to
slog it out til the next turning mark and then reach to the finish. The
3rd place boat has caught up and crosses just behind us.
I ask for the position of a boat that has been reeling us in. "they see
us" I am told. This is good as they have a wheel and can see behind
their 150. We continue to beat. About 30 seconds later the lookout says
"I don't see them any more!". "Oh &^%^$ ", there is nothing in front of
the forestay. They are either about the cross in front with no room, or
are crash tacking at us. I scream starboard just as their bow pulpit
comes through the 150, tears the lifeline, and flattens a lifeline
stantion.
Since they hit behind the center of the boat, I steer at them to kick
my stern out. It works and there is only the 1 hit. Luckily we are
heeled over so the hole is at the hull/deck joint. A flying lifeline
left a bruise on one of the crew who was not on the rail. But every
one was fine. Sometimes driving a brick outhouse has it's advantages..
We quickly take down what's left of the 150, stow the main, clean up
the mess below, and put on our rainsuits as the storm looks ready to
decend on our heads. We bail out of the race and protest. The other
boat apologies and gets DSQ'ed. They had a new driver on board. They
were going to duck us, but their timing was off. We go from 2nd to DNF.
This stinks.
What did we learn?
We trusted a boat because of familiarity and respect as they always race
clean. We need to be more cautious of everyone in the future.
We have to find a way to take out that ODay 27 early in a race or else
we will not be getting by him.
|
845.847 | June 20th Race - second completion | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Jun 21 1996 14:59 | 88 |
| Well Holiday II was in it for a while. Bottom line we finished last
on absolute and corrected time. But, we finished while the committee
boat was still there! This is an accomplishment for us.
The course was a start 2 course A. This is about as long a course as
they have. Wind was from the south at about 10 knots. This is the
bottom end of our come alive zone.
Mark Eklof and I have sailed on Holiday II about 6 times together.
We pretty much split helm duties. I probably go windward and maneuver
a little better. He holds course with a much lighter hand than I.
Terry Reilly rounded out our crew of three. This was Terry's first
ride in a rag bag. After the first 20 minutes of sailing together,
we actually made a fairly good crew.
We got to the start and joined the mob. I still muffed the start,
but by the least to date. I was about a minute behind where I had
planned on being and two minutes after the gun.
We were moving pretty good. By the time we had finished start 2 and
started on course A, we had acually gained on most of our class. We
were actually in the race!
Wind was holding up pretty good as we beat towards Baker's Island.
During most of the beat were slowly reeled in the slow half of Class
D. Each tack brough in a couple of boat length on Jeager (closest to
our PHRF in the fleet).
By Great Misery we split tacks with them Jaeger headed in close to
Misery, I thought our wind would be fouled there and I stood off.
The gained a little on us there.
About this time the majority of Class D was just rounding the first
mark. With the anticipated braod reach and wind holding, we could
actually beat someone (at least on time).
Time to scoot up towards Bkaer's. Jaeger rounded Misery and heade
east towards Whaleback rock. This was way out of the way. I decided
to tack in closer. You know some people are just plain dumb. Jaeger
kept it footing and maximized use of the dieing air, not Holiday II.
By the time we rounded the mark and headed west down Eagle Island
Channel, we were way behind. still it is a broad reach. We go good
in a broad reach. We simply couldn't get over 4 1/2 knots in the
light wind. I could have really used 15+ knots, but 5-10 was more
like it. Jaeger just kept walking away.
We kept Holiday moving better in the light wind than we had ever done
before, but there wasn't a whole lot we could do. Suck down some
giner ale and eat some cookies.
We crossed the finish line with a horn from the committee boat (who I
still owe a round of drinks to) and an elasped time of about 2 hours
10 minnutes. In the stronger wind of Sunday afternoon, I had sailed
the same course with Mark in about 1 1/2 hours.
Things we did right:
Had a blast, especailly on the start and beat.
Kept her moving about as good as we could in the dieing wind.
Got the tacks down pretty good.
Doing pretty good on triming the mizzen.
We reduced by over half our distance behind the fleet on
adjusted time. We are getting better.
Things wrong or could improve on:
Close up the start better.
Use the venturi effect on the wind passing between Misery and
Baker islands.
Go straight to the Jubilee docks instead of putting Holiday
II to bed first. might actually make an awards cerimony that
way. Next week is our last race in the spring series, and
until mid August.
Don't point quite as high. Let Holiday II foot a little more
when going windward.
Apply these lessons to the trip to Woods Hole July 5, and
Maine July 28.
|
845.848 | Racing from the back of the pack | STOWOA::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Jun 21 1996 17:25 | 116 |
|
air out of east at about 7-10, which was more than the whole ride to
the coast. Choppy water with the tide going out and skys were overcast
with a good chance of rain. Boat is still wounded from last week's
accident, but we have prepped as best as we could. Without our 150
genny which was destroyed, it was like showing up for the gunfight at
the OK Corral with a switchblade.
Tried to get aggressive at start, but got too far left with OK
boat speed. tacked back and thread through the fleet. Over to the
right, we overstood to get some good air as there were a lot of boats
in front of us (like all but 1 or 2). We nailed 2 right off the back
ploding along in bad air. A 29'er came up and made life miserable for
us. They finally went down some so we could get a bit of speed. Without
the 150, we were a knot off our target speeds. Made life H*ll out there.
We decided to use the race to work on course tactics. We went up the
middle to begin with to get any good air we could. We also used a
lot of tacks to connect the puffs coming through. We would gain, then
lose when the other boats got into a groove. Oh Well. Saw a boat @ 400
yrds on port. Screamed starboard and scared the bejesus out of them
into a crash tack (the skipper later told me my voice sound like it was
right next to him, so he tacked off).
We crossed just ahead of the 29 footer. At the next crossing he was
coming at us under full power. At the last minute we tacked to his
leeward and held most our boat speed. He was not able to roll us and
was in our bad air slightly to windward. We then made him pay for the
earlier dusting he had done to us. Again we tacked several times to
reach near the windward mark. While on starboard, a Cataline 27 came at
us on port and ducked us. The tide was going out and we went a bit
further before tacking to the mark, as the Catalina was not going to
make the mark.
But the tack was a bit too soon and although we could easily lay the
mark, we couldn't get any power in the dying air. Next thing we know,the
Catalina is coming at us on starboard. They had the layline but drove us
to tack off. While they were toying with us, a 30'er took us both from
below. We went to tack back under them, but they started their tack and
slowed so quickly we were going to hit, so we bailed out and retack to go
behind them. On the reach we held our own on them but they put 30
seconds on us one the downwind leg.
Overall, 9th out of 12.
What went right:
The evening was great in getting the crew together to look for puffs
and wind veers, getting the boat up to target speed quickly, and
determining tactics to make up for a suboptimal boat.
We got some points for the series and were just behind the person
ahead of us, so there is still time to catch them in the next 4 weeks.
What we could do better:
forgot to loosen outhaul on downwind run.
had the jib snag 2 times because of releasing it too soon. Need to work
on this.
need a 150 if we are to have a chance. Time to resew the paint
dropcloth (ie 20 yr old original 150) until the new 150 arrives
from the sailmaker. Have a 2nd one being lent to us next week just in
case.
being on the wrong side of the starting line cost us 5-7 boats at the
begining that took a long time to recover (which we never did).
CLASS A
No Racers
CLASS B
1 Arco Iris Miguel Martinez
2 Vapor Trail Bob McLemore
3 Bellatrix George Pawle
4 Bonnie Lassie William Callahan
5 Addiction Michael Royer
6 Comotion James Mega
7 Wave Dancer Barry Johnson
8 Corona K. Colcord
9 Gold Watch Horst Lachmayr
10 Air Express Steven Goldberg
11 Over Achiever George Balich
12 Windever Sam Cooper
CLASS C
1 Seaductress Larry Proulx
2 Knotless Ken Bowden
3 Al Fresco Kurt Pelsue
4 Karibou Joseph Naroski
5 Flashy Annie Gerry Fennesy
6 Serenity John Geary
7 Camelot Charles Neville
8 Serendipidy John Sweeney
CLASS D
1 Blitz John Allen
2 Pao's Cat Paul Odierno
3 Lisa Marie Steve Hollis
4 Answered Prayer Robert Libert
5 Tobasco John Dionne
6 Sea Spray Dick Lowe
7 Bust Off George Bernier
8 Kokaburra Marty Galligan
9 Enra Ann John Kalinowski
10 Morning Star Barbara Evans
11 Jaeger Brant Binns
12 Holiday II Doug Claflin
CLASS J
1 Blue Fox John Caldwell
2 Catch-22 Joe Grenier
3 Sharkbite Neal Whittredge
|
845.849 | slow is a four letter word | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Jun 28 1996 11:19 | 108 |
| Look up the word slow in the dictionary, see a picture of Holiday
II.
We we actaully finished the race last night, litterally hours
behind the fleet. Holiday II got caught with the dieing air.
nothing to do but quit (no weaigh -pun intended, or wait).
Mark Eklof and I were the total crew for Holiday II last night.
As we headed over to the start, the wind was wonderful, probably
close to 10 knots. We decided to motor over so that we had time
to get used to how things were going prior to the start. This
would also keep us clear of the B fleet.
Wind was pretty good. I dedided to put a reef in the main.
Figured we could shake it out easily. This would keep us from
standing on our ear. We left the mizzen down until after the
start. This gave us a little better maneauvering. Even so, the
wind was letting move smartly. Much fo Class D was tearing around
under just the main.
We kept track of when the fleets were starting. About 6 minutes
early we raised the mizzen and tacked away from the line. 4
minutes to go, over on a starboard tack, head for the line. All
of those port siders can take hindmost (never happened of course).
We hit the line just a little later than intended. We were
actaully close to the pack. This was our best start ever.
Furthermore, we were closing on Sea Heir. By the turning mark of
the start course we had pulled ahead and hard on the wind. Turned
the mark and headed for the main course. Wind was still stiff.
Our sail balance was just about perfect. The single reef would
heel us, but not too much. We were closing on the fleet. This
was a new experience.
We came to the turning mark for the run towards Marblehead.
Shook out the reef on the main. Happened pretty quick. We
continued topull ahead of Sea Heir. Slowly Lisa Marie and Morning
Star were being caught. Looked like we were making headway on
Jaeger also. This was pretty neat. We were killing them on time
and in it for real.
Lisa Marie and Morning Star both got covered by us weakly. To be
honest they probably didn't notice. We were running at about 4
knots, they got dialed in and walked away at about 4.1 knots. Not
bad for the run.
Hit the second turning mark, and head up for Baker's Island. Even
though the wind is dieing, we are wet from rain, we continue to
dog the fleet. Losing a little, but the final leg is a reach
where we should do better. Pass through the lee of Eagle Island
without too much difficulty.
As we come up towards Baker's Island we are still close enought
that it pays to watch what individual boats are doing. We
continue to do OK. Less than a 1/4 mile to the last turning
marking, and we get dropped into the toilet. We finally easy
around, feeling really bummed.
The good news is that the wind not only has gone soft, but shifty.
Most of Class D is still on the course and the reach is now a
beat. They are having a bad time of it. We are close enough that
a favorable wind shift or two could hit us and help close the gap.
Unfortunately the opposite is also true. Sea Heir and Morningstar
have withdrawn. Since we had done so well at the start, we decide
to stay in the race. We notify the committee boat that we will be
late. They might want to pack it in (they wisely choose to). For
a large part of the last leg, we honestly did not know how Holiday
II was moving.
I got my sleeping bag out and rested while Mark had the helm. We
crawled at o,o - o,3 knots on the GPS 0 knots on the taft log.
Halfy and hour to an hour and another rain line came through.
After that we had enough wind to ghost along. The water was glssy
and city lights reflected off, revealing zephyers playing on the
water.
We crossed the finish line 6 hours after departing for the race.
Jubilee Yacht Club had gone to sleep. We motored back to
Manchester.
Things we did right.
Sail balance was pretty good.
Tatics at the start were much improved.
Setting the spinaker pole to hold out the jib on the run was a
good idea even though there was wind.
Vanging the main by hand, was also a good idea.
Things to improve.
Really need to be right in the pack at the start. Our goal should
be to stay out of the mess as long as possible, but then dive for
the line. Everyone is going to pass us, but we should make them
earn it.
In a windy case like this start, reef the jib and if needed spill
air from the mizzen. So far the wind has never filled as the
night goes on.
Still need to do better with the wind twists around the islands.
Get a new wind god. The one we are using gets tired too early.
Doug
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845.850 | Our downwind speed stinks & we need to work on it | STOWOA::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Jun 28 1996 14:04 | 141 |
|
Doug
Don't feel bad. We went from 3rd to next to last place before
getting some it it back. Forecast was for a light front to come through
from North. Decent wind to begin with. We used an old 150 that was now
about a 135-140 for a headsail. Being a drop cloth for painting the
house, the draft was pretty much blown back to the leech, but it gave
us some sail area.
Got a decent start and tried to roll the 2nd place boat from below,
but could not get up enough speed to get ahead. the first place boat
tacked and made it past the herd coming in on the mark as this was a
starboard startline right to the starboard turning windward mark.
We had to overstand so as not to get t-boned by 10 boats behind us.
As we turned, we lost 2-3 places, but we were outside so we headed up and
gained. two boats ahead got into a luffing duel, so we went low and
passed them both. then we rolled a catalina 27 to windward. Things
looked pretty good, but the wind started to die along with some
sprinkles.
Screwup #1 was went we started to go low toward the next mark. a
gaggle of boats rolled over the top of us and took our wind. We then
had a run to Marblehead. We went left to keep some boat speed up. It
helped to begin with, but we lost a couple of boats in the last quarter
of the leg. At the turning mark we went inside one of the boats and then
rolled another trying to put their spinnaker gear away. The turned
lighter and the boats ahead were getting away. the small headsail was
not helping. Half a leg later we tacked off to the center of the
course, as did a couple other boats. At this point we are pretty far
back, and Doug is close by (nice sailing Doug).
At next turning mark (off Misery Island), the boat ahead blows the line
and is forced to tack twice more, we get close to them but the wind
dies and the rain starts. The boats ahead are able to stay with the
last gusts and leave us for dead. We tack off toward Misery hoping the
wind will fill from the North. It does, BUT it is feeble and it goes
right over our boat and lifts the 3 boats to leeward of us and away
they go as we bob. After a couple of minutes we get a puff and start to
move. Doug is back a quarter/half mile as the tide turns against him.
At least we didn't have the worse hand to play in this card game...
We tack to the center of the course and play evey puff we can see. It
gets dark and we still look for wind. The boats ahead tack back toward
shore and we know we have em. We stay out in the center of the sound
and short tack on the puffs. When the boats come back, we cross ahead
by a couple of feet on two of them. We then put some more distance on
them as they try to point in a feeble wind and against the tide. 150
yards from the finish, we spot a boat coming out of the darkness on
port. The crew wants to tack off [still nerious after the crash], but
we stay our course, cross just ahead on starboard, and then tack off.
We now block some of their wind, have a better line to the
committee boat, and we can tack off to shoot the line if need be. They
hold course, so we do the same.
Finish (very badly, almost an hour out of first).
What went wrong.
The small headsail continue to plague us in light airs. We are still
awaiting the new 150 genny.
Our upwind speed is super, our downwind speed stinks. We continue to
lose several minutes on the downwind run. wing on wing is not working,
nor is playing the angles. Time to do some reading and follow up with
a lot of practice.
Never dive down on a tight reach when a pack of boats is closely behind
you. We cut out throats on this move.
Our downwind speed stinks, we need to work on this.
The move toward land was based upon the assumption of a wind change,but
did not take into account that the wind could go over us because of
the close proxsimity of the island. This cost us over 10 minutes.
Our downwind speed is bad. We need to work on this.
Got to sail around the islands of the sound more. I have some kind of a
mental block that just doesn't like it out there. Maybe it is the
current movements from the sides or what. Got to learn to understand
and deal with this.
And finally, our downwind speed stinks, and we really need to work on
this...
CLASS A
1 Face Off Norman Reid
CLASS B
1 Wave Dancer Barry Johnson
2 Vapor Trail Bob McLemore
3 Toot Sweet Jim MacNeil
4 Arco Iris Miguel Martinez
5 Bonnie Lassie William Callahan
6 Elusive Robert Jaremsek
7 Over Achiever George Balich
8 Air Express Steven Goldberg
9 Addiction Michael Royer
10 Corona Frederic Dexter
11 Gold Watch Horst Lachmayr
13 Jacqueline Marie Ronald Brochu
12 Bellatrix George Pawle
dnf Comotion James Mega
Class C
1 Knotless Ken Bowden
2 Al Fresco Thomas Pelsue
3 Flashy Annie Gerry Fennesy
4 Black Sheep Richard Carter
5 Serenity John Geany
6 Seaductress Larry Proulx
7 Rampage Bill Kuszmar
8 Serendipidy John Sweeney
9 Karibou Joseph Naroski
Class D
1 Bust Off George Bernier
2 Blitz John Allen
3 Vinga Jim Henderson
4 Sea Spray Dick Lowe
5 Kookaburra Marty Galligan
6 Pao's Cat Paul Odierno
7 Tobasco John Dionne
8 Enra Ann John Kalinowski
9 Lisa Marie Steve Hollis
10 Jaeger Brant Binns
dnf Holiday II Doug Claflin
dnf Morning Star Barbara Evans
dnf Salt Heir Richard Caccia
j=24
1 Catch-22 Joe Grenier
2 Blue Fox John Caldwell
3 Sharkbite Neal Whittredge
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845.851 | goin sailing | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Jun 28 1996 14:33 | 22 |
| Sounds like Sunday afternoon I will learn how to rebuild an
Atomic IV's carburator. But ...
I am up for a sail on Saturday afternoon, or Sunday morning.
John if you want a trial horse let me know. i can single
hand Holiday, and plan to this weekend. I can "race" her
with one crew. You'll smoke me, but I don't care. If any
of your crew hopes on Holiday II for the ride, I will ply
them with Oreol (sic) cookies.
I plan on sailing the course at lest once this weekend,
perhaps both days. In afternoon wind it takes me about 1
1/2 hours without racing. Sort of fun.
Jaeger is good at working the islands.
Give me a call if you are interested. Others are welcome
also, Kim, Andy, etc.
Doug
home 603 886 6769
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845.852 | | OUTPOS::EKLOF | Waltzing with Bears | Fri Jun 28 1996 15:24 | 7 |
| > dnf Holiday II Doug Claflin
^^^-- Not quite! :) We most certainly DID finish, though we were farther
behind the next boat (Jaeger) than they were behind most of the C fleet boats,
since we didn't cross the line until 11:13.
Mark
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845.853 | | QE004::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Jun 28 1996 17:47 | 12 |
| Doug
The results are all automated, and the process run was done at 11pm.
Committee said last night they knew there were changes to be made.
They will update the results later today or tomorrow.
I am booked for tomorrow, but will be out on Sunday. I will give you
a hail on ch 9. I might be single handing myself, as the crew is going
to the CSN concert at great woods.
john
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845.854 | | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Mon Jul 01 1996 09:24 | 27 |
| Sorry about missing you on Sunday. Sailing would have been more fun.
I was upside down over my engine. The carburator is in my truck
ready to be rebuilt tonight. Put it back in tomorrow.
I also got another coat of varnish on the coach and grab rails. One
more coat on the coach, toe rails, grab rails, and I will be in
pretty good shape for this season. That will be almost two quarts of
varnish this year. That is alot of brite work.
I also did the wine and brie thing with two ladies in a Bristol 32
who came in while I was getting greasy. Manchester Marine had muffed
stepping their mast. It is getting retuned today. They were headed
to Fairhaven. I think we will go through the canal together on
Saturday morning.
So never left harbor, but did not get rained on, and got some repairs
done on Holiday II. Also stopped at Marine Exchange and bought two
snatch blocks for a total of $42. John you know, blocks loved by
cruisers and abhored by buoy chasers as excessive weight.
I won't be racing until August, but expect to see me then.
Mark Eklof is looking for a ride for the balance of this series, and
at least the start of the next one. outpos::eklof. He is also up
for things like the Sunday sail. This week he did not go to CSN.
Went to Canada instead.
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845.855 | Can you say slow? | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Aug 23 1996 11:22 | 60 |
| Last night's Jubilee Race was pretty much a bust for the D squadron.
The wind started out light ( <5 knots) and the weakened.
Holiday II motored over from Manchester with a crew comprised of Andy
Stangel and myself. We got to the line about the time the B fleet
eased on out. To clear them we motored slightly to the windward of the
line. Up went our sails and we bore off for the line. With the 5
minute gu, we were aimed at the favored end and ready to go, only the
wind wasn't. It took about 15 minutes to do the 200 or so yards.
Things did not look good for the home team.
We watched the rest of the fleet slowly crawl away from us. After
about a half an hour of enjoying the current, we were just able to fill
our sails. Every time a stink pots wake hit us, we lost all way and
watched our sails first flog and then go limp. About the time the
water regained a glassey sheen, we could get our sails just drwaing,
then there would be another stinkpot.
After two hours of "racing" Holiday II had covered perhaps 1/4 mile.
The starting mark was still clearly visible. The race had been
shortend to just ofver a mile in total length. About 8:30 we packed it
in.
Things we did right:
We now have adobpted the policy of calling it quits when things
are too grim. With the winning boat in D fleet usually
finishing about 8-8:15, we will DNF if our projected completion
is later than 9.
We are actually getting better at moving in very light wind.
I would preferr to have some wind. So far we have never had
wind that stayed over 5 knots for the entire race.
I moved the jib sheet blocks further aft. The jib sail shape
looked much better.
When the course starts out eastward, consider staying close to
the shore. Wind seems to be a little better there. However,
if there is going to be a thermaally generated sea breeze,
stand off because the wind will shift from easterly to
southerly.
Things we did wrong:
Still way to far from the starting line at the gun. Get the
sails up and motoro until our 5 minute warning.
Quit earlier. No point wasting time hanging out when there is
no chance of moving. We have no illusions about winning a
race.
We tried to hold course more than we should have. In wind this
light the boat will get twisted around. It is better to keep
way on, and hope for the best.
Well, I will get some afternooon sails in this weekend. So who cares.
Besides, there is always next week. I have 6 more tries this fall
series.
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845.856 | | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Aug 30 1996 15:01 | 86 |
| Last night was a pretty good race by Holiday II standards, i.e. we finished.
Of course the committee boat was already gone.
There were three of us, Mark, Lee (cruiser never raced), and myself. So a
quick row got us out to Holiday II. a few minutes later we were cast off and
headed out to a ---- glassy sea. We thought the night was going to be a
bust.
The waters showed narry a ripple until we approached the start area. Then
there was just enough to stur the surface. what the heck, it was a nice
night. We were early enough to work our way around the starting area and get
things ready without a rush. We even got in a couple of pratcie runs at the
start. We raised our mizzen and the wind came upt to may 10 knots. The gods
were smiling on us. A little more wind and we may even hit hull speed.
The pre race maneouvering is definately the adrenaline rush portion of sail
boat racing. There were over 30 boatscrammed into an area about the size of
my back pocket. Remarkably things seem to work if everyone is on their toes.
Last night one boat was flat footed. We were making our final run at the
start. The boat was trimmed up and footing nicely. Forward and lee of us,
one boat (names ommitted to protect the guilty) came about onto a port tack
and down wid. They were facing a hoard of close hauled starboard tack boats.
The broadreaching port tack boat was obsured by jibs and mains. The end
result was that the most windward starboard tack boat converted a major wreck
into a glancing blow by crash luffing. We immediately gave up going for the
line and came about to avoid the mess. This put us over the line about two
minutes late.
The race committe had choosen a long start. We were ahead of several boats
who had to recross the line. Even so, we were in last place at the first
mark. Still a small Sea Sprite was close by (the only boat approaching our
rating). The reach to the second mark saw us keeping in contact.
Around the second mark, and onto a dead run, with a falling wind. Time for
us to park. Actually we kept moving by slowly. The Sea Sprite popped a
chute and "Poof" they were gone. Going to prove to be a lonely night.
As we ran towards down this third leg, we kept moving. We were
wing-on-wing-onwing. Canvass everywhere and not much motion. The vang
allowed us to sail the main by the lee. We were just idling along at a knot
or so, but what a beautiful cloud of sails. To top it off, we were treated
to a spectalar sunset flaming in the sky.
Just before we started the fourth leg, the only boat close to use withdrew.
I think we have become a litimus test for the other boats. I may never pass
another boat in this series. As we entered the fourth leg, others were
headed home or just finishing this reach. We dialed in and actually closed
some on the next boats as the close reached to the last little jog. From
here on out, there was no sign of the sun. Ma moon rose up through a gap in
the eastern clouds. Good night to be out.
Things done right:
Got to the start a half an hour early. Actually sailed among other
boats.
Bailed out when the collision happened 5 boats lengths to our lee.
Hung out the sails correctly when wing on wing.
Got pretty good at working the jib sheets with a crew of 3.
Steered around the final mark with just inches to spare.
Things done wrong:
Bailed out when the collision happened 5 boats lengths to our lee.
Probably could have made the line with no one near by.
Should have split tacks at the start. This would have put us heavy
air for longer. Also for most of the time would would not have been
as close hauled. Did I mention that we are expecailly slow on the
wind and of course off the wind?
Main halyard was not quite tight enough for beating. Should have
tightened it with the winch.
Lee worked the helm too much. It is a learned thing to sail Holiday
II by sail trim, not rudder action.
I almost touched the final mark. I was not paying enough attention
to the fairly substantial drift of the current.
We had fun. Crew space always available on Holiday II inexperienced crew are
welcome (kids are welcome too / bring an indoor toy to play with if they get
bored).
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845.857 | Finn in heavy weather | STARCH::HAGERMAN | Flames to /dev/null | Tue Sep 03 1996 12:21 | 40 |
| The Labor Day "Bridge to Bridge" race was held at Regatta Point
Community Sailing yesterday in spite of the hurricane. Worcester
is far enough west that it didn't ever rain and while the wind was
high, it wasn't hurricane conditions. No whitecaps, but almost
continuous gusts at 20 knots, we decided.
The Labor Day race is an open "fun" race between Route 9 and I290
on Lake Quinsigamond. There were about 12 entrants, mostly choosing
to use the club boats ("White 14s"), but there was also a Laser,
a 110, and me in an antique Finn. The race is about two
miles in total distance, and went pretty quickly. Often in the past
there has been a lot of drifting.
My pre-race strategy was to use my light 145 pound weight in the
over-powered Finn to keep up upwind and run past everbody on the way back.
However, the high wind put everybody into survival mode, and I fouled
somebody else at the start and was also fouled myself. Thus the
leaders got a perhaps 100 yard lead right off while I did
my penalty turns. Two or three boats started behind me.
On the beat I managed to avoid capsizing and head thwacking (Finn
boom is extremely low), and by the windward mark I was in mid-fleet. The
110 was way ahead and there were three Whites still ahead of me.
By this point there had already been several capsizes and at least
one retirement.
On the run I managed to avoid deathrolls and accidental gybes, and picked
up two of the Whites. Just in front of the clubhouse, perhaps 200 yards
from the downwind mark, I heard a "clink" and shortly afterwards
noticed that the tiller extension no longer was connected to the
tiller. I frantically found the nut and managed to cross-thread it back
in place, but in the excitement forgot to lower my centerboard at
the mark and sailed the last few hundred yards upwind with only a
half-down board. This allowed one of the Whites to almost catch me, and
the only thing that saved me was that he fouled me in a clear
port-starbord case near the finish line.
Final place: 3rd. It was a LOT of fun. I'm sore.
Doug.
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845.858 | "best racing of the season" = Not a good season | QE004::KALINOWSKI | | Wed Sep 04 1996 14:50 | 68 |
| re .856
Yup Doug, the wind came up. I too was expecting a "bob & bake" and
was surprised by the wind. We were in the horde up front when a
Catalina 27 "Kookabura" tried to barge in and hit blitz. Took out a
Stansion on blitz & did some glass damage on Kookabura. We were low of
it and up front. We tried to push a new racer over early, only to find
it was the guys who hit us earlier in the season on a different boat.
Now I really pushed them hard as the countdown continued. As the gun
went off I had them flogging both sails and holding up everyone behind.
Then the radio blares we were both over early. Darn!!!!!
We fell off and rounded the committee boat. Doug snuck by on starboard,
but we kept on going for another 150 yards. The start was bad as it was
a straight line on starboard tack to the mark. By overstanding on port
before tacking over, we got way high of everyone. All the other boats
were killing one another, even the leaders, as the fleet in front of
them turned some serious wind. Because of this, most couldn't lay the
mark. So we came in on Starboard right at the mark. 2 boats squirted
by, but we forced 2 to bail out. We were in 7th or so.
the next leg was a reach. We sailed it well and lost no
positions, and seemed to gain on the boats ahead. Nothing to lose and
we were having fun. At the rounding, it was a downwind leg for 2.5
miles. The kite folks were doing well, but we did ok too. We lost 3
places by halfway down the run, but got them back by the end. Next was
a tight reach to marblehead. One boat we owed time to was just behind
us, so we had to work our butts off to get some breathing room.
The next leg had us on a reach. Many boats went low, but we again
went as high as possible. We got good wind and it's subsequent boat
speed out of it, though we did have to dip down to round a boundary
marker properly. As we got to the last turning mark, the wind started
to die directly in front of us along with the total darkness. We had
caught a lot of B & C boats and they we be in our way. We tried to
overstand the mark, but the further we went, the lighter the wind
became because of the shoreline. We tacked over for a quick run to
the finish. It was going to be close as our competitors had made back
some of the lead we had put on them. Overstanding was a good idea
because of the tide change, but then two big boats crossed ahead and
tacked right into our feeble air. There was not enough time or room
to tack out. Then another boat comes out of the darkness and leebows
us. Man it is getting feeble, but the mark is just ahead. The crew says
hang in there, we are going to make it. We get to the finish line and with
a couple of contorsions we are over and just miss hitting the mark.
Whew!!! Just after us a party boat comes blasting past the mark being
used for the finish. I am sure there were a couple of pissed off
captains on that move. We hold our time against our competitor by 7
seconds and take 6th out of 14.
Things we did right.
- the adjustable outhaul worked as antispated on the reaches.
- Going high on the start for unspoiled air was a good idea. I wonder
if we would have done this if we had been in the lead??
- Crew really worked the genoa on the downwind leg. We had compable
downwind speed for once.
- zigged and zagged on downwind leg to keep folks behind us from
stealing our air.
- Left the headsail down until 10 minutes before our gun. While others
were dodging one another, we bobbed quietly figuring out our plan for
the evening.
Things to do better.
- Not be so agressive as to be over early. once a season is fine.
- Get a topping lift for the whisker pole.
- Add telltales on lower main for better sail shaping (done).
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845.859 | Where is all this racing taking place... | EASE::ogodhcp-125-112-150.ogo.dec.com::bradshaw | | Wed Sep 04 1996 18:21 | 1 |
| Where is all this racing taking place?
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845.860 | | QE004::KALINOWSKI | | Thu Sep 05 1996 12:01 | 23 |
| Many of us race in Salem Sound, about 15 miles north of Boston Ma.
There are races in Beverly and Marblehead. Thursday nights are beer
can races at Jubliee Yacht Club in Beverly. Very loose group for the
most part. Afterwards we all head over to the club for cool ones and
the award presentations. Wednesday is race night at Marblehead. I hear
they are a bit more serious.
Boats are handicapped via PHRF. To race, you need a filled in handicap
form for your boat. Races are about $8-10 each , though half and full
season fees are much cheaper. We have everything from 22' dingies to
ex charter crusing boats to old IOR boats out there.
The main thing is to have fun and be with friends.
There are also many races on the weekends, though these tend to be more
serious. Saturday and Sunday will be Race Weekend at JYC. Skipper's
meeting is Friday night. These races can take you out to Boston or
Glouster.
If anyone is interested, let me know and I am sure we can get you on a
boat to experience Rac'n ! . With fall coming, the winds will pick up
and the action will increase, though most of it will be in the dark.
Only 5 weeks left this season, so be quick!
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845.861 | racing on Holiday II | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Thu Sep 05 1996 15:11 | 21 |
| Holiday II is always looking for crew. Come join us/me. Requirements
are: you gotta come to have fun. If you stop having fun, you gotta
tell me, so I can pull the plug. Kids and SO's are welcome. I have
one or two toddler type life jackets on board. I think there are still
some drawing supplies that my 5 year old uses.
My steady crew member is deserting me for a boat that finishes
someplace other than last. What can I say. 30 year old boat, heavy as
the dickens with a full keel.
On the other hand, tension is low, sodas are cold. Besides, I maintain
we are the prettiest boat in the fleet, and the only ketch, wood spars
and everything.
At the moment I intend to enter the weekend regatta at Jubilee. I do
not know start time or when the thing is over on Sunday. At this time,
I am going to "compete" solo. Give me you name and home number if
interested.
Doug
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845.862 | The race that would not finish... | QE004::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Sep 06 1996 13:48 | 33 |
| 5 sep.
No wind, or real close to it. Tide going out.
Got a good start in light air. Caught up to fleet ahead and
were starting to get blanketed, so we tacked out to the right.
We were going ok but then all the big boats coming down really
started to disturb the air. We tacked back, but the wind filled
from the left and everyone got a good jump on us. By the time we
got to the left, the wind was gone. We got to about 40 feet from the
pin before the tide started taking us the other way. 45 minutes later
we were a quarter mile away from the pin with no wind in the dark.
Finally a feeble breeze let us get around for a hour long crawl about a
mile. The wind got worse. A Catalina 30 in front of us just sat there
for 20 minutes. We finally fininshed this ~3 mile race 2.5 hours from
starting and only 2 unintentional 360s from losing all momentum. Finish
was 8th out of 11 with 3 DNFs. We may need these points later in the
season.
Remember the old saying " A bad day of sailing still beats a good day
at work" ? Well that saying is WRONG!!!!!! ;>) ;>) ;>)
What should we have done.
- Never gone out in the first place ;>) . If the crew shows up, I feel
responsible for going out. Not good for my blood presure though...
- The move to right was correct, but we should have gone back left
much more early. One boat did just that and took 2nd.
- Need to clean bottom of boat. Feels like it getting groaty down
there.
- In light air we need more weight to roll boat on side, otherwise
it sits straight up and goes nowhere.
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845.863 | Race Weekend | QE004::KALINOWSKI | | Mon Sep 09 1996 14:15 | 101 |
| re .-1
I was wrong, the course was only 1.36 miles. ;>(
This weekend was JYC race weekend. We were in the crusing class which
consisted of a C&C 44, a FinnGulf 38, and a Mariner 47.
Weather was terrible, the only idiots out there were sail boat racers.
Winds were 18-20, with 6-8' confused seas along with some killer
rollers every now and then to help totally stop your boat.
We never had a chance in these conditions. Day 1 was a 9 mile beat to
Glouster Ma. We got the stuffing knocked out of us, as even with a
reef, we couldn't get the boat on it's feet. We were averaging 4 knots
compared to the other boats 7-8 knots, as they had the waterline
and weight to punch through. This was followed by a 9 mile run to
halfway rock, just outside of Marblehead, and then a run through
Salem sound to finish. Needless to say, we got clubbed by the other
boats. We were 30 minutes out of the next place, wet, and tired. Spent
the night eatting asprin like candy. The seas had us dropping half the
boat off of waves every 3-4 minutes. Any scum I missed scrubbing after
work Friday, was gone by Saturday night. A reefing in a small channel,
against the tide and wind was a bit "exciting" for us, but we did finish,
4.5 hours after starting.
Sunday, the crew showed up again (Crazy as I am). The seas were down to
5-7 and the wind was about 15 with a mile rain. We decided to go with
the 110 and a full main. This balanced the rig better. We practiced
several starts to get the timing right, as previous classes were having
trouble after a wind shift made the line port favored, but nobody dared
try a port start.
At the start, the 47 went high. I luffed him half hardily, but I let
him roll me. I know the committee boat did not want 47 feet of crusing
boat hitting them at 8 knots. The 38 was just ahead and to leeward.
I saw the C&C 44 go low and knew he was going to luff the 38, so we
immediately went low to get out of the way. I didn't want to be a
fender between either these boats or the commitee boat in these
conditions.
Sure enough, the C&C comes back up and starts yelling. The 38 bails out
and does a 360 just before the committee boat. As they come around,
there we are.... So I yell to keep on circling. They stay out of our
way and are to windward but behind us. The 47 footer had to luff at
the start from coming in so hard and has lost momentum as the guns goes
off. We get a good start and slowly luff the 38 footer several times
so he cannot get a running start to roll over us. Inches between us,
the wind howling, we both go over the 47 footer. Now the 38 starts
to roll over me with superior boat speed. As soon as she passes, we
tack off for port so as not to get covered. After a couple
of minutes is evident the right side of the course has more wind, but a
lot more wave action. We tack off for Manchester to hide from the
waves before exiting Salem Sound. The sail plan works well with wind,
and the calmer seas allow us up to 5 knots. We take it to about 75
feet off the shoreline and tack back to Bakers island, knowing the wind
and waves will build. Half way there, we try to point up to miss the
shoal just behind Bakers Island. If we make it, we have a running shot
at the opening between Bakers and Misery Island with mimimal adverse
tide to deal with. We almost make it, as we miss the left side of the shoal
by 30 ft. Then the depthmeter goes from 24 to 8 ft in 2 seconds, so we
bail out with a 180,and tack across to Misery Island. Outside the
sound, the waves are still good sized, but we only have another mile or
so to go instead of 7.5 miles of beating.
We catch a Pearson 424 that started 10 minutes before us. Each time
we are behind them, but we continue to gain. At the last crossing
he takes us by inches on port. We get clean air and tack off to
position ourself between him and pin. On port, his heavy boat is
much better at flattening waves and he gains just a but. As we
approach the layline about 100 yards from the pin, the big A boats come
bearing down for their 2nd lap. I get past the 1st one, but the 2nd one
is screaming starboard so we rolloff to let them pass. The wind is
dieing and we have trouble getting moving again, as big waves push us
backward like we are on a dingy.
By the time we get up some momenteum and then lay the line, the 424
is gone. A couple more big boats are bearing down, but we manage to
get around the mark and head up to stay out of their way as they
do spinnaker sets. We quickly take down the 110 and put up a 150 along
with a whisker pole. The seas allow us to ride along at 4.5 knots plus
the tide and the swells. The boat is balanced, and it is time for
lunch. The 424 goes left on the course and manages to screw up their
kite 3-4 times. At the finish line they head up (having finally
put the kite away) while we continue to run. We head for the committee
boat with a bunch of B class boats behind us, while the 424 goes to the
other pin. They beat us by 9 seconds, but then they started 10 minutes
before us and they owe us a ton of time. Unforunently they are in
another class, so we are DFL for the 2nd time in the weekend. We
run back to the mooring, as the wind dies and the fog rolls in.
Lousy weather with the wrong boat, 2 DFLs and we all had a good
time. That's what racing is all about.
What could we have done differently:
- Volunteered to be rail meat on a real boat. We had the 2nd smallest
boat in the regetta, and even the J24 gave up after day 1.
- Should have gotten more meat for the rail to hold the boat down and
to add some enertia for pounding waves.
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845.864 | Sept 12th 96 race | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Sep 13 1996 10:05 | 54 |
845.865 | | QE004::KALINOWSKI | | Fri Sep 13 1996 11:14 | 32 |
845.866 | What happened | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Sep 13 1996 14:09 | 1 |
845.867 | | OUTPOS::EKLOF | Waltzing with Bears | Fri Sep 13 1996 14:17 | 9 |
845.868 | Sept 19 Race, from both ends. | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Sep 20 1996 10:35 | 67 |
845.869 | Racing by Lunar Eclipse 9/26/95 | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Sep 27 1996 15:58 | 91 |
845.870 | 96 Phil Small Race | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Mon Sep 30 1996 10:04 | 133 |
845.871 | "Extra" races | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Tue Oct 01 1996 14:29 | 66 |
845.872 | | CONSLT::MCBRIDE | Idleness, the holiday of fools | Tue Oct 01 1996 14:35 | 7 |
845.873 | Last Fall Race | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Mon Oct 07 1996 11:24 | 128 |
845.874 | Racing rules seminar | STOWOA::KALINOWSKI | | Thu Dec 19 1996 13:36 | 15 |
845.875 | | OUTPOS::EKLOF | Waltzing with Bears | Thu Dec 19 1996 14:03 | 5 |
845.876 | | STOWOA::KALINOWSKI | | Thu Dec 19 1996 16:29 | 3 |
845.877 | New rules this year. | STOWOA::KALINOWSKI | | Mon Dec 23 1996 12:30 | 8 |
845.878 | Question for the JYC Race Committee | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Fri Jan 10 1997 10:34 | 27 |
845.879 | | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Wed Jan 22 1997 09:51 | 29 |
845.880 | Ramming speed, Sir! | ACISS2::GELO | | Wed Jan 22 1997 11:55 | 7 |
845.881 | | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Wed Jan 22 1997 12:51 | 19 |
845.882 | 1997 rules - buy a new rule book | STARCH::HAGERMAN | Flames to /dev/null | Wed Jan 22 1997 13:17 | 7 |
845.883 | I am alive (sort of...) | STOWOA::KALINOWSKI | | Mon Jan 27 1997 15:38 | 42 |
| OK Doug
Sorry for the delay, but I just returned from going around the
world over the past 3 weeks (what day is it??).
I will bring up your request Thursday night at the regatta
committee meeting. I know most the committee feels for you.... ;>)
Honest!!
As I alluded to earlier, but was not allowed to talk about it,
Yes, we have reshuffled the classes. This was to make the racing more
equal. To do so, we have done the following changes:
No Fast A boats showed last year, so the classes have been more
equally distributed across classes.
Because of the low turnout, the J-24s no longer have their own
start, so the rest of us on slugs get to start 5 minutes earlier.
The slow D fleet boats have been split with the Spinaker boats
going to C fleet. This is more fair as the fast C fleets are now in B
fleet, and almost everyone in C fleet now has a kite. Because of the
shape of Salem Sound, many times the first or second leg is a downwind run,
which gave the kites a big lead that used non-kite boats never had a
chance against. The slowest D fleeter with a kite was also a constant
winner that used to also beat half of the C fleet that started 5
minutes before them.
We will use the new rules. The new rules are safer and stress common
sense instead of on the water sea lawyers. take a look at the US Sail
home page on the publication of new books and software to learn the
rules. The JYC committee will be going to school on these later this
Winter.
And come on down to the racing seminar whether or not you are a
member. We would rather have everyone understand the rules then spend
all night in protest rooms.
Regards
john
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845.884 | | OUTPOS::EKLOF | Waltzing with Bears | Mon Jan 27 1997 15:48 | 8 |
| > The slowest D fleeter with a kite was also a constant
> winner that used to also beat half of the C fleet that started 5
> minutes before them.
Hmm, I don't remember "Jaeger" doing nearly that well. :) Or were you
talking spring series, and a Ranger 22?
Mark
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845.885 | | STOWOA::KALINOWSKI | | Mon Jan 27 1997 17:27 | 4 |
| Mark
I think you remember who used to "Blitz" the fleet on a regular
basis...
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845.886 | Staysail and spinnakkers | DECC::CLAFLIN | Doug Claflin dtn 381-6355 | Tue Jan 28 1997 08:59 | 46 |
| Hi John,
I talked with John Collins (local PHRF adjuster). This was not the
informative discussion I had hoped for. So I am going to work through
the people in Mass Bay Sailing who were silly enough to put PHRF by their
names.
Here are things I did and did not find out. I hope these help the
committee. While I obviously have my preferences, I am not interested in
making your stint on the Racing Committee one of hard duty.
1.) John Collins ASSUMES a mizzen staysail on a split rig. Thus I
beleive that the race committee should allow a mizzen staysail on Holiday
II without penalty.
2.) I did not find out from John Collins what latitude the race committee
has on individual boats. Pao had asked if I would check up on this. It
is still on my list. However, I think buried somewhere in and around
http://www.icondata.com/NSTYA/phrfrate.html, there is reference the fact
that a local race committee is always allowed to adjust the PHRF for a
given model of boat for the races they run. This would be consistant
with differnt PHRF ratings in differnt parts of the country.
3.) I would like to suggest that rather than putting D fleet boats with
spinnakers into the C fleet, that adjusting the spinnaker handicap would
be more reasonable. What you effectively said was that -15 seconds for a
spinnaker was to little. It should be easy to calculate the advantage
that a spinnaker gives to a D fleet boat. A good rule of the handicap
being reasonable would be when half of the fleet uses one. This would
also come close to where half of the winners race without a chute.
Last fall Jaeger flew a spinnaker. This moved her from insight, but
ahead of me, to up into the tail end of the pack. Frankly, I was looking
forward to doing the same thing. Neither of us is a threat to fourth
place in D fleet even with a chute. We will be absolutely buried in C
fleet.
Based on #2, you could even handicap chutes differntly on differnt boats.
But that starts to sound like serious work.
4.) Consider handicapping a boat a couple of seconds if the captain has
attended a racing seminar in 1996 the start of the racing series in 1997,
say +3. This would encourage someone to stay current on the rules.
Heck while we are at it, award time for cool looking boats or boat names,
and of course bribes. :-).
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845.887 | | STOWOA::KALINOWSKI | | Tue Jan 28 1997 12:51 | 4 |
| Doug
Best I contact you offline, as i have a bunch of spreadsheets i can
show you regarding the analysis that was done.
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845.888 | "digital" minor sponsor of w to e record holder | DELNI::CARTER | | Mon Apr 07 1997 13:10 | 12 |
| Saw a snippet of news coverage last night on an 80 foot boat which just
set a new trans-Atlantic record. Shaved something like 12 or 16 hours
off a record which has stood for ~90 years.
Very clearly visible on the mainsail for Nicorette was a maroon
"digital" logo.
Nicorette is an 80 foot boat, mostly crewed by Brits, with one American
from Marblehead aboard.
djc
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845.889 | Let the fun begin..... | OGOPW1::ogodhcp-124-40-202.ogo.dec.com::Kalinowski | | Tue Apr 08 1997 12:10 | 34 |
| Just a reminder that the season is about to begin (as if you
needed it) and here�s a schedule of events.
April 17 PHRF SIGNUPS
Applications are take for your PHRF-NE handicap. The Regatta
Committee will be here to help you fill out your application and
answer any questions. The fee is the same this year, $25.00.
We�ll also have the tapes for the rules seminar playing on the
VCR for anyone who missed it.
May 8 JYC THURSDAY NIGHT SKIPPERS� MEETING
Learn about the changes for this year, get the new Thursday
Night Racing Program and sign up for the season. We�ll go over
the program, pointing out any changes, particularly the new
courses. The fees for this year have again stayed the same, $90
for the whole 20 race season, less $2 for US Sailing members
(bring your card) and $3 for Mass Bay Sailing Members, or $53
for a 10 race series, less $1 for US Sailing members and $2 for
Mass Bay Sailing Members.
May 15 FIRST THURSDAY NIGHT RACE
August 3 MS CHARITY REGATTA
September 6 & 7 JYC REGATTA WEEKEND
September 28 PHIL SMALL MEMORIAL RACE
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845.890 | www.doylesails.com | OGOPW1::ogodhcp-123-40-228.ogo.dec.com::Kalinowski | | Thu Apr 10 1997 14:09 | 3 |
| For a picture of this, check out the Doyle web page. Doyle made
the sails and they have a nice side photo with Digital clearly
visible..
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845.891 | 22 may, A true shake/knock down sail | OGOPW1::ogodhcp-124-40-186.ogo.dec.com::Kalinowski | | Fri May 23 1997 12:07 | 70 |
| 2nd race of season, first one for us. In fact, first shakedown sail. We put on the sails, stowed a ton
of unneeded stuff that was still on board and headed out 1 person short. Small crafts warnings were
posted with 30 knt winds gusting to 33. Felt like November.
Got to the start line about 15 seconds late for our gun without any idea what course we were sailing (well we
figured it was going to be a long course with this wind). We were running a 110 jib, but didn't have a chance
to reef the boat. By the 1st mark we were 3rd out of 5. A big 42 foot ketch rolled us. I did a couple of luffs
but didn't feel like tagging him and ending up in the protest room. Nice 2 mile run at hull speed to Misery Island.
Along the way everyone is spinning out on the broad reach. When we get to the leeward mark, we gybe but
a killer gust rounds us up. I had a driver who had never been on the boat and we were about to smack the
bouy, so he bailed out. We went into irons twice trying to get started again as the waves were getting steep.
We were now in last place after loosing about 2 minutes.
The rest of the race was a hang on for you life as the wind built. The cockpit was dry as the spray blew sideways
off the boat. Boats were broaching every 2-3 minutes as the wind was strong and waves were helping to cavitate
the rudders even more. Kept looking up to see if the rig was going to fail...
From Marblehead back we had a killer beat with a storm front hitting us from the left.
Sails are out, we are still on our ear, and steering is like churning concrete. At the next turning mark
went more right than the others ahead which got us some flatter water. Still finish DFL, but we had a blast
as this was just a tuneup!
What do we need to do.
fix the backstay adjuster. A wheel broke during rigging on Monday. Could have really helped
detune the boat in the gust winds.
Look into cross sheeting the winches. The new Self tailing Lewmars are great, but could be
even better if we can adjust from windward side.
Get on course on time.
Put the reef in just no matter how long it takes. We thought we could overpoint to take care of
the gusts, the that was not the case.
TH970522 5/23/97
Race Date5/22/97 Thursday Night Race 5/22/97
BOAT NAME RATING FINISH TIME PENALTY TYPE CORR TIME PLACE
A FLEET Starte 6 Distance 7.37
GOLD WATCH 129 07:37:12 0 07:21:21 1
VAPOR TRAIL 108 07:36:13 20 07:25:24 2
ARCO IRIS 123 07:40:32 0 07:25:25 3
CORONA 132 07:42:31 0 07:26:18 4
KNOTLESS 108 07:41:11 0 07:27:55 5
COMMOTION 134 07:52:22 0 07:35:54 6
MUS BE LUFF 96 00:00:00 0 DNS 88:88:88 8
B FLEET Starte 4 Distance 7.37
WAVE DANCER 138 07:46:27 0 07:29:30 1
TOOT SWEET 135 07:47:58 0 07:31:23 2
SHARKBITE 168 07:57:10 20 07:38:59 3
AIRODOODLE 168 08:08:28 0 07:47:50 4
C FLEET Starte 4 Distance 7.37
KENDA 177 07:59:05 0 07:37:21 1
BONNIE LASSIE 171 07:56:07 20 07:37:34 2
PAOS CAT 210 08:09:12 0 07:43:24 3
CAMELOT 195 08:09:25 0 07:45:28 4
D FLEET Starte 5 Distance 7.37
BLACK SHEEP 186 08:04:04 0 07:41:13 1
KOOKABARRA 228 08:12:28 0 07:44:28 2
LISA MARIE 225 08:12:51 0 07:45:13 3
SERENDIPITY 201 08:09:44 20 07:47:30 4
ERNA ANN 225 08:15:36 0 07:47:58 5
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845.892 | Man, you sure have a big 110... | OGOPW1::ogodhcp-125-128-221.ogo.dec.com::Kalinowski | | Tue May 27 1997 16:46 | 10 |
| re -.1
Found the REAL problem in controlling the boat. In the rush
to get sails put on before the race, we had the inadvertently put
the 150 on instead of the 110. In 30+ knots of wind, a 150 is a bit
much. found 4 inches of water in the bilge from the prolonged
submersion of the cockpit coaming took....
ps the 150 still looks like new, so that Bainbridge
square-thread cloth is pretty tough.
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845.893 | 30 May | OGOPW1::ogodhcp-125-64-228.ogo.dec.com::Kalinowski | | Mon Jun 02 1997 14:00 | 150 |
|
May 30th. 1-4 knts wind all day. Forecast is for it to continue.
Crew is sick, so I'll single hand it. Funny watching all those
boats with extra people after last week. Talk to the
race committee. Looks like a short race is scheduled for us slow
pokes, since there is no wind.
Get the boat ready and put up a 150. Then on to the course. Get
out there and it is blowing 10 and picking up. The boat is a bit
out of control, so I sail away from everyone for a sail change.
The wind continues to build to 15. Now the chop is getting
serious and I am sweating my behind to get the old sail off and
the new sail on. Finally get done with 10 minutes before my gun.
Notice the courses haven't changed so we are going 7 miles
tonight. Also notice the windward mark is more of a tight reach
than a true beat upwind. As I get to the line with a minute and a
half left, I do a 360 to kill some time and locate myself between
two groups of boats.
As the time gets close, the 3 boats to windwind start luffing each
other into the committee boat. I put the bow down and drive, as
the leeward mark looks pretty far ahead. A perfect start and I am
leading the pack!
The wind is staying at 15 knts and the chop is building as the
tide has changed about an hour ago. I set the boat up loose,
and steer by heeling angles and telltales. Obviously I have
learned something from Dave Dellenbaugh latest racing
newsheet on winning by boat feel.
I hold off everyone to the first mark, going upwind to cause dirty
air for anyone trying to roll me. The next leg is a broad reach.
A couple of bigger boats to the right and left of me, so I go high
and build speed and then ask for room at the mark so nobody
could slam the door on me. Three boats did get ahead of me, as
they went low and used their 150s to drive by. But they had lots
of folks on board . The next leg is to Baker's island and it is a
tight reach. I go high and recapture one of the positions I had
lost. At the next turning mark, I am in third and it is really getting
busy out there. The tack goes ok, but then I get a wrap. Lost a
bit of time getting rid of that . A tight beat to marblehead, I call
starboard on a boat and drive over him. On the next tack, it was
close, but I had to ducked him. No reason to push my luck by
myself.
Next tack gets the sheets wrapped on the mast winch. So I have
to luff, go forward, and then get the boat going again. Between
the winching and the driving, my arms are toast.
Near marblehead, and again, the sheets wrap on the mast. I try a
quick 360, but it doesn't clear, so I again have to go forward.
Lost another position on this. Final 2 miles was a broad reach
with no changes in positions. Took 5th overall.
What did I learn.
Bending the mast really makes the boat handle better in a blow.
I have to remove the mast winch and cleats, as they cost me at
least 2 positions.
I have to move the lower lifelines up 2 inches as they interfer
with the new winches.
Using the telltales and boat angle got me into the ball park
quicly. If the speedo went down more the .3 knot, i would look
to see what was wrong. This was quick and simple.TH970529
5/30/97
Race Date5/29/97 Thursday Night Race 5/29/97
BOAT NAME RATING FINISH TIME PENALTY
TYPE CORR TIME PLACE
A FLEET Starte 10 Distance 7.14
GOLD WATCH 129 07:30:09 20
07:17:11 1
BELLATRIX 117 07:34:22 0 07:20:27
2
VAPOR TRAIL 108 07:32:41 10
07:21:01 3
COMMOTION 134 07:37:19 0
07:21:22 4
ARCO IRIS 123 07:36:47 0 07:22:09
5
CORONA 132 07:38:22 0 07:22:40
6
AIR EXPRESS 132 07:38:49 0 07:23:07
7
KNOTLESS 108 07:36:19 0 07:23:28
8
MUS BE LUFF 96 07:37:08 0 07:25:43
9
READY OAR KNOT 126 0 DNF
77:77:77 11
B FLEET Starte 5 Distance 7.14
BLUE FOX 168 07:43:21 0 07:23:21
1
TOOT SWEET 135 07:41:02 0
07:24:58 2
SHARKBITE 168 07:44:05 10 07:25:17
3
AIRODOODLE 168 07:47:36 0
07:27:36 4
WAVE DANCER 138 07:42:41 20
07:28:38 5
C FLEET Starte 8 Distance 7.14
AL FRESCO 183 07:51:50 0 07:30:03
1
BONNIE LASSIE 171 07:50:13 10
07:31:03 2
SEADUCTRESS 207 07:56:13 0
07:31:35 3
KENDA 177 07:53:02 20 07:34:21
4
PAOS CAT 210 08:00:04 0 07:35:05
5
KARIBOU 183 07:56:57 0 07:35:10
6
RAMPAGE 177 07:59:19 0 07:38:15
7
SERENITY 183 08:03:30 0 07:41:43
8
D FLEET Starte 8 Distance 7.14
VINGA 222 08:02:15 0 07:35:50
1
LISA MARIE 225 08:03:20 0 07:36:33
2
TABASCO 237 08:05:07 0 07:36:55
3
SERENDIPITY 201 08:01:33 10 07:38:49
4
ERNA ANN 225 08:06:34 0 07:39:47
5
KOOKABARRA 228 08:08:42 0
07:41:34 6
STARFIRE 186 08:10:51 0 07:48:43
7
SALT HEIR 216 08:16:35 0 07:50:53
8
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