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    	I have a question regarding a speeding ticket.  My son got
    	pulled over last week by a cop traveling in the opposite
    	direction. Immediatly after the cop goes by my son he spins
    	around and follows him for about a mile then pulls him over
    	saying he clocked him at 51 in a 30 mile zone.  Son says
    	he was doing about 40.  I sent in the ticket for a hearing.
    	Were not looking to get it dropped, just reduced. My question 
    	is, if they do find him for doing 51 is the ticket ($160.00)
    	due then and there?
    
    thanks in advance.
    dave brockelman

    Go to court and ask the cop how he determined that he has made this
    discovery. As in, if the cop says he tagged your son going in the op
    direction from a moving cruzer, then you got a case. For, there is
    error in the speedo on the cops car, and the cop should have been at a
    sitting position to make an accurate reading of the actual speed of
    your son. In short, the real speed was not properly read cause both
    cars were in motion. 

    re.28
    The cruiser may have had the approach radar setup which can determine
    the speed of an oncoming vehicle by automatically adjusting for the
    cruisers "closing speed". From personal experience I know Lancaster has it.
    Nice cop though and he left me off with a warning.
    
    		Dave

       You will not have to pay at the clerk-magistrate hearing.If found
       responsible, the magistrate will ask if you intend to pay today.
       If not, they will usually give you some amount of time that you
       negotiate with them.They would probably request full payment 
       within 4 weeks though.
    
                         Rich

    REP LAST FEW.
    	Thanks for the replies. I know a few of the lancaster cops
    	and i'll ask for the heck of it to see if they had it that
    	day.  I cop is a new one on the force and i don't know him.
    	once again thanks
    
    	dave

Re .29

The radars do not rely on the speedometer readings.  Radars that are
capable of detecting cars going in the opposite direction determine
the speed of the cruiser independently of the car's speedometer.  The 
defense would be "did you use a radar that compensates for the cruiser's
speed?" (very unlikely that they did not) and then "when was it last
calibrated?".

    May have used "Vascar" system.
    
    //John
    

Not while moving he didn't!

			Steve

>The radars do not rely on the speedometer readings.  Radars that are
>capable of detecting cars going in the opposite direction determine
>the speed of the cruiser independently of the car's speedometer.  The 


Yup.  Two beams are fired.  One is the reference speed beam (shot at the 
road surface) and the other is the detector beam (fired at the moving 
vehicle)

they work coming and going, too.  He can bag you as he is pulling away from 
you (after you've passed him)