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    Well I guess there are no takers on the Tiger II. Lets ask a new
    question. I'm looking for a low wing sports model that is easy to
    build, won't take forever to build, and is stable in flight. I guess
    you would call it an intermediate sports model. Any inputs?
    

    I would ook into the Super Sportster .40 I have a SS .20 with an OS .35
    it looks nice and flies great. I'm sure you will get alot of different
    entries on who likes what. There is a note on S.S. take a look and see.
    
    Bruce.......................................Hey Evil, is the Gremlin
    considered a low wing?? 8-)

Dennis has one 8^)

The other popular kit which flies like a dream is the Ultra Sport series.
I'm building a US60 right now and it is pretty straight forward building.

    I say YES to the Ultra Sport also.  There is a note on it also.  I have
    a 40 and a 60 size, that's how much I like them.
    
    I also have a SIG 4 Star 40 that I am much more daring with (Sunday
    afternoon type flying).  It is a great quality kit and a good flyer.
    I use the Ultra Sports for Pattern practice.  They are not quite as
    forgiving as the 4 Star, but if you have some low wing experience,
    it makes you look like your skills just improved drastically.  One
    thing though, if you go Ultra Sport, put some real horsepower up front
    so you can really use what it can do.
    
    Good luck,
    
    Ron

    Although I have no direct knowledge of the Tiger II, I did build its
    predecessor, the Sky Tiger as my second trainer (ie, first low wing
    trainer).  I absolutely loved this airplane.  It taught me a great deal
    about handling a more docile airplane, and I learned many aerobatic
    maneuvers with it.  It served me well for two years, and after more
    than 300 flights, I sold it to a fellow club member.  It was still in
    very good shape.
    
    Therefore, if the Tiger II is anything like the original, its got to be
    a winner.  I'd go for it.
    
    Good luck,
    Joe

    What size engine did you fly on the Sky Tiger?
    

    Re: -.1
    
    I used an OS46SF on the Sky Tiger.  Really pulled it along with
    authority.  My all-up weight was 6 1/2 pounds, so a 40 would have been
    anemic.  If you can keep the weight down between 5 and 6 pounds, you
    could get by with a good 40, say an Enya 40 SS BB, which sells for
    around $100.
    
    -Joe

    Another good first low wing plane is the Sportair 40 by Northeast
    Aerodynamics.  It's easy to build and flys well.  I never owned one but
    I've flown them and seen many of them fly.  I even saw a guy fly the
    Advanced Pattern with one up in Maine.
    
    I would also vote for the Super Sportster or the Ultrasport.  You can't
    beat Great Planes Kits.
    
    Charlie
    

    I'm not even sure if anyone is around to read this...but
    
    I just finished building a TIGER II.  Excellent (typical) CG quality.
    It will be taking it's initial taxiing and alignment set-ups this
    weekend, with plans to fly it later in the week.
    
    The kit does have some pitfalls however.  It's real important to lay
    out your radio installation during construction.  Theres not much room
    under the cockpit, and I had to do a lot of last minute reworking to
    get everything to fit.  In particular, the aileron servo sits overtop
    the rudder/elevator/throttle servo...I'm using futaba s148 servos, and
    everything colided real good.  After much repositioning, trimming and
    cutting, I got everything to fit, although I'm not happy with some of
    my throws.  I'll see how the test flight goes..if I need more throw on
    the ailerons, I.m gonna have some problems.  Also the CG can be a bit 
    tricky as they show the battery pack located under the tank.  If you do
    this, provide yourself an access hatch during construction.  I ended up
    placing the batter pack just behing the tank, resting in the spot
    between my wing leading edge, and the receiver.  My CG just works, but
    not at the ultimate safe position. Since this is considered a second
    level trainer, I think the ideal location for the CG would be as far
    forward as possible...again I'll see what the test flight does.
    
    
    Regards
    Rod (it's certainly a good lookin plane, can't wait to point it at the
    	 clouds.)

    I agree with your assessment of the servo placement - I had to move
    heaven and earth to get mine to fit.  I also found the leading edge
    sheeting to be a bit tenuous; It crushes much to easily.  Given the
    change to do it again, I would reinforce it in some way or use heftier
    balsa.
    
    Flies great, though.

    If this is like the original SkyTiger, then I know how tight it is to
    pack everything in.  I used Airtronics 102 servos and was able to have
    both an aileron AND flap servos mounted at the center of the wing, and
    got it to fit...just.  The Rx and battery were crunched into the most
    forward portion of the compartment, and when the wing was bolted on,
    they were _very_ tightly packed.
    
    However, as you have said, this is a nice plane and it flies very well. 
    I put about 300 flights on mine before selling it, and sometimes wish I
    still had it.
    
    BTW, it looks cool on skiis for winter flying.
    
    I think you'll love it once the building is done and it takes to the
    air.
    
    Regards,         
    Joe

    Finally!
    
    	Got the bugs out, made it's maiden l lfight yesterday.  I don't
    know what I was thinking saying I may have problems if I need more 
    aileron throw....this thing rolls unbelievably fast...I will be using
    my dual-rates from now on. Take off and landing pattern went well, with
    the occasional unintentional roll when I overcorrected...However no
    major mishaps.  UGH...LEE landing though.  The flying field has two 
    resident Hawks that wait until your either not looking or landing
    dead-stick...then they will pounce on you or your plane.  Knowing this
    and hearing them overhead made my landing a little hairy.  I had just
    gone deadstick(Problably due to overheat atmos. temp. very hot) lined
    up on the runway, heard the hawk swooping within 6 inches of the top of
    my head....distracted momentarily...too low to make the main runway...
    ...stretch the glide...nose in slightly to pick up speed...plane falls 
    into shrubbery....Just minor dents on leading edge...the balsa here has
    been ACC'd, but it still is quite soft....I would recommend to anyone
    building this kit to upgrade the balsa on the leading edge...anyway the
    plane got a thourough checkout, no major damage, and I will be headin
    out in the next day or two to do some  real shake-down flights!
    
    	General synopsis.....Do not make this your first trainer...It
    actually is a little on the hot side, with very little built in
    recovery (ie dihedral etc.). On the other hand with a well tuned .40,
    the sucker really screams and rolls are beautiful.
    
    Regards
    Rod
    

    Has anyone seen the new Tiger 60 form CG? Wonder if all they did was
    increase the size of the wings?
    
    Dennis