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    You may be thinking of the Royal B25 Mitchel kit they sell.  It has a
    70" wingspan and is designed for two 40-60 sized engines.  Also, Nick
    Niroli has plans for a larger B25 that takes two Quadra 40CC gas
    engines.  There is a business in New Jersey that is kitting this plan.
    
    
    Tom

    Tom,
    do you happen to have some addresses of these people (I'm on the
    otherside of the world compared to you guys 8^)
    Cees

    
    	The Royal mentioned in -.1 is indeed a very nice kit but has a high
    price tag on it. I currently have a photograph of this kit in it's 
    assembled form, taken at the 1991 Toledo show. If you want BIG, the
    Nick Ziroli Plans are for you. Yes, I said plans. This is a scratch
    builders project. You may add as much or as little detail as desired.
    the plans are in 1/8th scale, with a wing span of, I believe,
    approximately 105 inches. Ziroli is well known for his scale plans and
    this model in particular was written up in a more recent issue of 
    RC Scale Magizine.
    	Ziroli originally designed his first B25 in 1970. This was a .25
    sized kit weighing in at around six pounds with a wing span of @ sixty
    inches. I ordered a set of the plans myself and "kitted" the model for
    a future building project. I planned on using it as my first multi-
    engine plane, and this one fit's the bill. I even went so far as having
    a friend look up the original article in his massive collection of 
    magazines, and lo and behold, he still had the orginal article from 1970. 
    I got a photcopy of it and know have both the article and a set of plans 
    and a completed "kit" for this .25 sized model. 
    	My sole intent was to build a multi engine model of military
    design. The .25 and the Royal kit were the only two available and the
    price of the Royal kit turned me off. Wouldn't you know it. Two weeks
    after all my research was completed, the "big" 1/8th scale kit appeared
    in RC SCALE Magazine, and, in the scale I was looking for! I'll wind up
    using the .25 as practice for detailing and will someday build the
    larger version. 
    	As far as canopies go, I had a friend show me how to build them
    from SIG plastic sheets. This will be required for the .25 sized plane.
    A company used to market the plastic windows, gun turrets and cowls for
    the .25 version but have since gone out of business . Your in luck
    though. Nick Ziroli sells all the canopies and cowls necessary for
    the 1/8 scale model. Good luck on your decision and keep us informed on
    your progress!
    
    
    	Carl	

    
    1/8th Scale B25:
    			Nick Ziroli
    			29 Edgar Dr.
    			Smithtown, NY 11787
    			U.S.A.
    		Phone:	516-234-5038
    
    
    Moderator, please feel free to move this to an appropriate location if
    necessary.
    
    	Carl

>    Do you know if Nick Ziroli is issuing a catalog of some form (I guess
>    he sells more than one type of AC plans).

I was curious about the .25 sized version myself so I called Ziroli to see if 
the plans were still available. I talked to a nice young lady who didn't now
about a smaller version of the B-25 and suggested I call back later this week 
to talk to Ziroli himself. She also offered to send me a FREE catalog so its 
worth giving them a call yourself

    I got the plans from Cartsen . I believe the catalog was from a Model
    Airplane News Magazine. I'm not really sure, I wound up with about four
    or five catalogs last year via all the "free-bees" they were giving
    away at the Toledo show. The plans were still available for the .25
    sized plane. I think they cost me @ $11.50 + shipping. I'll get the
    address and ordering info for you tommorow. As far as the article, I
    can make a copy for anyone interested in the .25 sized plane and mail
    it to them. My mail account is VERSA::TULANKO or call via DTN 432-7748.
    Also the going price for the set of "BIG" Ziroli 1/8th scale plans is 
    $38.00 + postage.
    
    
    Carl

    Make that $38.00 Postpaid/U.S.A. !

    Re.6:
    Dan, if possible could you request a catalog for me? If this is giving
    to much problems forget it.
    I'll try from overhere (Europe).
    
    Re.7:
    Carl, please mail me a copy of the article from the magazine.
    My mail address is:  Cees van der Leeuw
    			 JGO B1/09
    (that's the Nijmegen central repair site in the Netherlands).
    
    Thanks for the help guys.
    Ceesa