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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

315.0. "transmitter handling, straps, trays, and mittens" by GHANI::CASEYA (THE DESERT RAT RC-AV8R) Thu Sep 24 1987 12:25

    John/Chris,
    
    Funny you should mention different ways of grasping the stick(s).
    I believe most R/C pilots do fly by placing the ball of the thumb(s)
    atop the stick...you'll notice that most radio manufacturers even
    knurl or, in some manner, "rough-up" the top of the stick to enhance
    the thumb-to-stick "grip."  
    
    [MY "PERSONAL" OPINION:] I've always felt that the thumb is the
    least nimble, indeed, the most awkward digit on the human hand and,
    were it not for the unique fact that it can "oppose" the other fingers,
    would serve little purpose at all.  So WHY, I've always wondered,
    would we use this clumsy appendage to try to make precisely measured
    stick movements when controlling our R/C ships??  Therefore, I've
    always actually "held" the ail/elev stick between the thumb and
    index finger of my right hand with the second finger curled beneath
    such that the nail rests gently against the backside of the stick.
    (Experiment with a pencil/pen and I think you'll see what I'm trying
    to describe.)
    
    This gives me a more positive "feel" of the stick and is more "secure"
    to boot.  I've witnessed many instances where planes were lost or
    badly damaged `cause the pilot's thumb momentarily slipped off the
    stick.  Oddly enough, I "do" operate the throttle/rud stick with
    my left thumb.  The only thing I can rationalize here is that the
    thumb can move faster, more comfortably, in the side-to-side axis
    than in the front-to-back axis so it feels "natural" making quick
    rudder inputs during takeoff and landing and, of course, finesse
    is not a prime requisite on throttle so nothing's lost in that de-
    partment.
    
    Also, I've used a neck-strap since day-1 and recommend it's use
    highly to all R/C'ers, newcomers and oldtimers alike.  I use a light
    weight saxaphone strap purchased from the music store and prefer
    it to the heavier/fancier variety provided with most radio systems
    today.  In any case, the strap, again, provides a little more security
    so you can concentrate on flying the model, not on holding the trans-
    mitter.
    
    The only drawback (if you can call it one) to the sax-strap is that,
    after a flying session, when we're cooling off at the local "watering-
    hole," recounting the day's flying action, some barmaid, cowboy,
    redneck or whatever will invariably ask if I'm a musician.  I reply,
    "Yep, I play guitar" (which I do) and the inquisitive one walks
    away mumbling to himself (Hah!).
    
    Adios,	Al
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315.1CLOSUS::TAVARESJohn--Stay low, keep movingThu Sep 24 1987 19:2719
RE: .41  Yes, that's exactly the way he showed me to hold it,
except that he didn't mention the stabilizing finger.  I'm going
to try it.  The reasons were just as you stated: that for fine
motor control the thumb is not as steady as using the thumb and
forefinger.   For some reason I've had a problem with gentle
turns, I can stand the plane on its wing and whip it around, but
gentle turns have been much harder.  This method of holding the
stick improved things 100%.   Since this fellow is a bang-up
pattern and ducted fan flyer, he must know how to hold a stick
steady.

Been meaning to try that sax strap, as soon as I'm on my own.
I'd kind of get all choked up handing over the transmitter now.

RE: .40  About 3 1/2 years...counting the time I wasted trying to
learn on my own design slope glider with my own design radio.  I
definitely advise against such foolishness.  Lost last summer
because of a new house, and about 3 months of this year because
of the flaky fuel tank/engine problems. 
315.2SPKALI::THOMASFri Sep 25 1987 10:469
    
    	I agree with you Al. I to use the finger method but on both
    sticks.  I also use a neck strap but leave it attached to the
    radio. I then simple slip the strap over my head. I leave it 
    attached to the radio because I once saw a strap on a flyers neck
    swing out as the flyer was adjusting the engine. Thank God he
    wasn't hurt.
    
    						Tom
315.3STUFF IT...THE STRAP, THAT IS !!GHANI::CASEYATHE DESERT RAT RC-AV8RFri Sep 25 1987 11:2011
    Tom,
    
    Yeah! I hear ya' about the safety consideration(s) of wearing a
    neck-strap.  I tried your method of leaving the strap attached to
    the Tx but got bummed-out at having to worry it over my sombrero
    (or remove same) every time I was ready to fly.  Consequently, I
    simply keep the strap tucked inside my shirt.  I see other guys
    hook it in a button-hole ar stuff the end into their shirt poc-
    ket...any means to a safe end, right?
    
    Adios, Al
315.4All thingers and fumbsTHESUN::DAYJust playing with my chopper....Fri Sep 25 1987 21:0223




	I used to fly with just thumbs until I started with
	the heli. I find finger and thumb gives much more precise
	movement. Now I fly planes that way as well, thumbs feels 
	insecure.. 

	I do find it's more difficult to put large inputs to
	just one axis of the stick with the finger and thumb method....

	  Win some lose some......


	I do use a strap, but normally find that I'm so wrapped up 
	the heli that I end up holding the Tx anyway.... Also
	don't you find that in the early stages it's a bit difficult
	to hand the Tx back to your instructor if it's on a strap....
                                             

	bob
315.5attached to my strap alsoLEDS::WATTMon Sep 28 1987 11:308
    I too have become attached to my strap.  I wasn't aware how much
    more secure I felt with it until I forgot to hook it up one flight.
    I had to come around and land so that I could hook it up.  I have
    also felt unsecure flying a friend's plane for him without the strap.
    (so I could hand him the box)  An added benefit is the ability to
    let go with one hand to flip dual rate / coupling switches or to
    swat a pesky fly while flying without the risk of dropping the box.