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Conference krakar::f1

Title:F1
Notice:All about F1
Moderator:WOTVAX::GILLILANDP
Created:Wed Dec 14 1994
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:159
Total number of notes:8085

91.0. "F1 GP goes to ITV - 1997" by WOTVAX::HILTON (http://blyth.lzo.dec.com) Wed Dec 13 1995 15:01

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91.1....ruin it %^/WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Wed Dec 13 1995 15:036
91.2PLAYER::BROWNLTyro-Delphi-hackerWed Dec 13 1995 15:513
91.3Over to Eurosport for meCHEFS::ast138.hhl.dec.com::PatemanFrom Jerry Garcia to Julie AndrewsWed Dec 13 1995 16:219
91.4All races!WOTVAX::HILTONhttp://blyth.lzo.dec.comWed Dec 13 1995 16:4910
91.5John Foster's selling plenty Greg!CHEFS::ast138.hhl.dec.com::PatemanFrom Jerry Garcia to Julie AndrewsWed Dec 13 1995 17:1511
91.6WOTVAX::WILSONJOWed Dec 13 1995 18:2619
91.7LJSRV2::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOWed Dec 13 1995 20:039
91.8Oh Dear...WOTVAX::ROWEMFrank Gamballi's TrousersWed Dec 13 1995 21:477
91.9CHEFS::ast138.hhl.dec.com::PatemanFrom Jerry Garcia to Julie AndrewsThu Dec 14 1995 08:1514
91.10'Unfair competition'MOEUR8::SMITHThu Dec 14 1995 09:165
91.11WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Thu Dec 14 1995 09:195
91.12CHEFS::LINCOLN_JThu Dec 14 1995 10:059
91.13EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredThu Dec 14 1995 11:149
91.14WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Thu Dec 14 1995 11:2511
91.15LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Thu Dec 14 1995 12:575
91.16Over to Janice in the pit lane!MILE::JENKINSThu Dec 14 1995 13:1117
91.17Eurosport is toll-freeEVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredThu Dec 14 1995 17:1310
91.18But Fossies a salesperson, Paul!!!WOTVAX::HILTONhttp://blyth.lzo.dec.comThu Dec 14 1995 20:192
91.19KERNEL::STOYLETFri Dec 15 1995 05:534
91.20My 2p's worth on advertsMOEUR8::SMITHFri Dec 15 1995 08:3713
91.21LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Fri Dec 15 1995 08:479
91.22OGRI::63536::BELLMartin Bell, M&U PSC, @BBPFri Dec 15 1995 08:5512
91.23IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttFri Dec 15 1995 16:168
91.24ITV might be betterEVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredFri Dec 15 1995 16:479
91.25and Black Adder just ended too!MOEUR8::SMITHMon Dec 18 1995 14:169
91.26Murray to continue!MILE::JENKINSMon Sep 23 1996 14:2013
91.27Murray and Martin?IOSG::DUTTNigel DuttMon Sep 23 1996 14:222
91.28VANGA::KERRELLEddie Stobart Truck Spotters ClubMon Sep 23 1996 15:005
91.29Somebody shot him please!IRNBRU::61549::SpikeYes it does, dosen't it?Mon Sep 23 1996 15:3717
91.30PLAYER::BROWNL[email protected]Mon Sep 23 1996 16:204
91.31WOTVAX::HILTONSave Water, drink beerFri Nov 15 1996 11:4810
91.32WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Fri Nov 15 1996 12:176
91.33Dr. Palmer winsIOSG::DUTTNigel DuttFri Nov 15 1996 15:003
91.34TURRIS::lspace.zko.dec.com::winalskiPLIT happens...Fri Nov 15 1996 19:435
91.35VANGA::KERRELLTo infinity and beyond...Mon Nov 18 1996 09:405
91.36Or so says the MailCHEFS::LINCOLN_JMon Jan 27 1997 16:1912
	Apparently Martin Brundle will be co-comentator with Murray
	Walker on ITVs GP coverage. Mansell will also appear 
	occasionally and they will be following the fortunes of
	the Stewart team in particular. There will also be a 
	technical expert and a female pit reporter (anyone remember
	John Bolster?).

	Apparently they're going to give it heavy coverage and 
	races that occur at unsocial hours will be repeated in 
	their entirety during the day.

	-John
91.37From The GuardianCHEFS::PATEMANCelebreties to the HebridesTue Jan 28 1997 08:4522
    The full team is as follows:
    
    Anchor Man		Jim Rosenthal (From circuit not studio)
    Commentary		Murray Walker
    			Martin Brundle
    Studio Expert       Simon Taylor - ex R5 Live, Autosport Editor
    			Tony Jardine - Ex BBC GP
    Pit Lane		James Allen - Eurosport & Writer
    Paddock		Lousie Goodman - Ex Jordan GP
    Director		Keith McKenzie - Ex BBC 12 British GPs to his
    			credit
    
    Format - 4 progs per weekend, 90 mins live qualifying, 15 min summary
    at 5.20pm on Saturdays, Race coverage from 30 minutes before to 20 mins
    afterwards, hour long highlights program at 11pm on Sundays. Melbourne
    will be repeated on Sunday afternoon. 
    
    Sponsorship by Texaco #3.4m year 1, rising to #3.8m by year 4.
    
    Sounds good apart from the ad breaks
    
    Paul
91.38JGODCL::BOWENShe's got all my money and is 8K kms awayTue Jan 28 1997 12:5711
    Being stuck in the land of the Windmill and ball shaped cheese we don't
    get much in the way of the ITV transmissions here.
    
    BBC was my lifeline to the GPs.
    
    Does anyone know if any of the National Radio Stations (R5Live?) are
    going to be providing commentry?
    
    Or do I have to try and follow RTL5/RTL+?
    
    Kevin 
91.39UTRTSC::WDEBAKKERFeed your headWed Jan 29 1997 08:2313
>  Or do I have to try and follow RTL5/RTL+?

F1 coverage will be moving to RTL4 this season.
Btw, it could be worth a try ;-). The commentry the last few years was
a few levels above that of BBC / Eurosport / RTL+, imho
Finally someone instantly recognizing drivers when a piece of the car
was shown in a flash, and very alert on everythings that's happening
on the track.
My experience with the other stations is, that while you notice
something, e.g. someone trying to overtake / having problems / going for
a pitstop, who's not in front at that time, that is only being noticed by
the commentator the next lap, or in the replay...
91.40F1 Coverage in CanadaBRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @17.5K music to my earsWed Jan 29 1997 14:2712
    And in Canada.                                                   
    
    TSN reported that they have signed a 3 year deal for F1 coverage.
    
    Don't know all the details of who and when but before this they did not
    have a contract, so we were in the dark (for F1). If the contract is 
    the same as last year we will only get the race, no qualifying. They do 
    usually repeat  the broadcast during the following week.
    
    A little F1 coverage to keep us going. No sleeping in on Sundays.
    
    Fred
91.41This is one thing I'm looking forward to.TAEC::SMITHMartin Smith, Valbonne. - 828 5128Fri Jan 31 1997 17:236
�.38Being stuck in the land of the Windmill and ball shaped cheese we don't
�.38get much in the way of the ITV transmissions here.
    
    You ought to move to the U.K then! :-)
    
    Martin (who's going to his room!).
91.421st impressions?WOTVAX::HILTONSave Water, drink beerMon Mar 10 1997 12:5313
    Well what did people think of ITV?
    
    I'm not that impressed, I recorded the 2am live slot and noticed:
    
    They cut the interviews with the drivers, and hence the Haks interview
    wasn't even shown!
    
    The pit timing problem, Murray Walker said wasn't their fault.
    
    They also seemed to have more adverts than they first said they would.
    
    
    Greg
91.43MILE::JENKINSMon Mar 10 1997 13:0311
    
    
    Considering how much time they devoted to the coverage I was amazed
    that they didn't show us any of the final warmup or even give us
    a list of times. Nothing on teletext either.
    
    Generally I thought it was similar to the BBC coverage. Brundle though
    is a big plus - much better than Palmer.  
    
    Richard.
    
91.44JGODCL::BOWENTwo stars short of a GalaxyMon Mar 10 1997 13:0315
    Not having ITV here in Windmill land I was forced to watch RT4, they
    had very few adverts and these were to the end of the race and only a
    couple of minutes long they did have a *lot* of voive interviews with
    Drivers, I got tired of switching the Mute buttons on the Sat Receiver
    and TV on/off.
    
    The Radio 5 commentry was fair, they had a good backup panel with Both
    team owners and ex-drivers but they did seem to be a minute or so
    behind the TV coverage, however they had an ideal view of the whole pit
    lane and gave very accurate timings on the Pit Times which was just as
    well as the TV timer was buggered.
    
    All in All I miss the BBC but my substitute worked out OK.
    
    Kevin
91.45CHEFS::16.37.8.142::marchrMega HeroMon Mar 10 1997 13:0614
I thought the ITV coverage was "different" - but I'd hesitate to say 
better at this early stage.

The pre and post coverage is a bit over the top. Hopefully they'll 
re-balance it.

Martin Brundle is very good - not the quite the acid wit of James 
Hunt, but a whole bucket load more than Jonathan Palmer.

The advert breaks may be a good idea - at least I get a chance to 
go and get another beer/coffee/sandwich/natural break etc. Less of 
a personal endurance race now - maybe?!

Rupert
91.46Not bad at allCHEFS::LINCOLN_JMon Mar 10 1997 13:0715
	I thought that the coverage was pretty good, all told.

	The thing I found most annoying, was a BBC import anyway.
	For some reason Murray, dear chap as he is, has this ever
	so annoying habit of always referring to Frentzen as 
	Heinz-Harald Frentzen why?. Alesi, Berger, Hill, Schumacher
	etc. and then Heinz-Harald Frentzen, always Heinz-Harald.
	I'm bored Murray, please stick to surnames.

	Martin Brundle was pretty good. Of course he's been in 
	the box before but was always very non-commital, but now 
	that he's out of the running he has more interesting and
	revealing things to say.

	-John
91.47Anybody heard of this?CHEFS::LINCOLN_JMon Mar 10 1997 13:145
	Incidentally I've heard of a European channel called DF1 (on
	satellite?) which is digital (widescreen?) and has no adverts. 
	Probably of no interest to UK viewers but maybe in the future.

	-John
91.48CHEFS::KERRELLDTo infinity and beyond...Mon Mar 10 1997 13:174
I agree on the point about the warm-up times - where were they? I even 
looked on BBC CEEFAX and could not find them.

Dave.
91.49He gets my Vote, but.....CHEFS::16.37.8.133::MadAre you suggesting coconuts migrate ?Mon Mar 10 1997 14:2219
A particularly good point to note, ref HHF, when he shot across the sand trap, 
Murray was harping on about 'How excited HHF got when the pressure was on and 
the mistakes he made', this was immediately followed by the reply. This 
conclusively showed the brake disk exploding, and HHF spinning away.'AH', says 
MW, after a short pause, 'I apoligise humbly and grovellingly to HHF for the 
previous comments'

 Made me laugh, lets be serious, he's an old duffer who makes generalisms and 
foolish comments in the heat of his excitement, about all the drivers.( I seem 
to remember a great comment about Suzuka last year, but can't think of it right 
now.), but you can't quibble at his knowledge.

 Still, he gets my vote, just as long as it's not Archie McPherson-Strut from 
Eurosport's highlights, the man's a complete buffoon.

 Here's hoping they don't employ Mansell.............8-)


 Mad
91.50SuperSignal from CanalSatLEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Thu Mar 13 1997 13:4629
    Being interested in all sorts of high speed transmission technologies
    and telecomm satellites, I had converted my TV satellite receiver to
    digital 6 months ago.
    
    Because of this I could watch the Canal Satellite SuperSignal and the
    associated channels. 
    
    Several comments:
    
    - during the practice sessions the signal was pretty bad with lots of
      cuts both in the images and sound
    
    - for the race everything was solved and the signal was perfect
    
    - you get 6 independant channels: 1 is the SuperSignal and the 5 others
      show different cameras, incar cameras, pit cameras and the official
      timing screen 
    
    - no commercial breaks
    
    - language is selectable, as the rest of the Canal Satellite channels
    
    - the french commentary was done by the previous Eurosport French
      commentator (needs improvement) and Patrick Tambay
    
    - negative point: not knowing what happens on the other 5 channels you
      may not watch the particular piece of action of special interest to
      you. Some PIP is definitely required. Otherwise you spend too much
      time zapping between channels
91.51It looks good!!!CHEFS::CZERESMMon Mar 17 1997 12:4314
    re last,
    
    There's a interesting article on digital broadcasting in
    march's issue of F1 magazine which focuses on Bernie E's 
    investment in the above mentioned technology, and it really
    does sound impressive, 
    
    cheers
    
    mark
    
    p.s. patrick, how much extra in % did you have to pay
    for receiving a digital transmission, or is it on a 
    pay per view billing.?? 
91.52LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Thu Mar 27 1997 12:066
    I did not have to pay any extra. The 1st F1 race was free.
    
    For this week-end and subsequent races it is FF 80. per race week-end,
    that includes practices, warm-up and race.
    
    FF 80 more or less equals 9-10 pounds and 13-15 US$.
91.53EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredFri Mar 28 1997 13:379
    French TV channel TF1, which carries the F1 GPs, has been kicking up a
    fuss about the preferential treatment given to pay-per-view channels.
    Apparently, in Melbourne, TV crews from regular terrestrial channels
    had a hard time getting onto the grid, had fewer cameras at their
    disposal, and were very unhappy with the quality of the broadcast.
    
    More Bernie-inspired antics, or hype?
    
    Edward.
91.54Relieve from adverts!WOTVAX::lzodhcp-182-48-148.lzo.dec.com::hiltong[email protected]Mon May 12 1997 11:414
The German RTL channel shows qualifying and the race, so when ITV 
goes to adverts, you can still see the action!

greg