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Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

592.0. "Opposite of anthropomorphism" by CIMNET::SCRATCHLEY (Out in Right Field...) Wed Dec 07 1988 00:43

I know that *this* is the place to have my question answered.  I've done a 
non-exahustive search of this NOTES file, and have not found what I'm 
looking for, but if it's here somewhere, I hope that someone will direct 
me.

I'm looking for a word.  As a noun, it would be the opposite of
'anthropomorphism' (my little paperback American Heritage says "the
attibution of human characteristics to non-human beings or things (in this
case, computers and computing technology)".  We've all heard "the system is
'thinking' about that" or "the terminal 'says' Hit Return to continue", and 
I'm sure many of us have complained about 'dumb computers'.  We accept this 
type of language, and understand, but what is the opposite of
anthropomorphisize ("there is no noun which cannot be verbed")? 

I've noticed an increasing application of computing terms to non-computing
aspects of life.  For example, my wife used to say, "Let me interrupt you."
Now, she says, "I have to context-switch now."  When she wants me to stop
what I'm doing, she'll say, "What are you doing that can be swapped out?" 

I'll deal with my wife's quirks, which are at least partially my fault,
but she's not the only one who does this, and I'd just like to know what
it's called.  When I'm checking in at the airport, and one person behind 
the counter puts the little tags on my luggage, while another assigns my 
seat, I think "Oh, good.  Distributed computing."  Even in a meeting,
someone will say, "Let's take that off-line." 

Well?  what's the name for this?


thanks,  and I'll never bother you again.

Glen

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592.1Techno + morph = Technomorp(ous)HSSWS1::GREGMalice AforethoughtWed Dec 07 1988 02:1911
    
    	Techno-	a combining form meaning: a) art, science, skill,
    		as in technocracy; b) technical, technological, 
    		as in technochemistry
    
    	-morph	a combining form meaning one having a (specified)
    		form, as in pseudomorph; used to form nouns 
    		generally ending in morph or morphous.
    
    
    	- Greg
592.2cybercrudEAGLE1::EGGERSTom, VAX & MIPS architectureWed Dec 07 1988 03:271
    cybercrud
592.3Even pizzas come in mini sizes...LAMHRA::WHORLOWPrussiking up the rope of life!Wed Dec 07 1988 04:1314
    'day,
    
    S'easy as 1-2-3, 
    
    People have to be vaxinated as children, nowadays...
    
    They drive compaq cars, grow wyser, Pick their mates, and ask a
    PC when they get lost. They listen to symphonies, eat apples, or
    pears or apricots; have discussions and love to get into tallgrass.
    They sometimes ride tandem, and if that don't suit, then facom.
    They wang away to be beside the C for their hols, and nowadays,
    often network in public.
    
    derek   
592.4I'm a technomorphic moronDOODAH::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanWed Dec 07 1988 14:1818
    "Technomorphism" (.1) is nicely specific to computers and space
    shuttles, but I think there's a more general term for comparing a
    person to a thing that I can't remember right now.  It's related
    to "objectification" and I learned it in a psychology class when
    we talked about autism.  One manifistation of autism is behavior
    that reduces the people around the sufferer -- and often the
    sufferer him/herself -- to the status of objects.  The case in
    point was the boy who thought he would die if his "cord" got
    unplugged from the wall.  The process has a perfectly good name
    which I can't remember.  Anybody else? 

    Though I tend to think of both anthropomorphism and technomorphism
    as simply metaphors and base my decision on whether to use them on
    how useful the metaphor is in a particular context. 
    
    Or whether I can get a good pun out of it.
    
    --bonnie
592.5Reification ? YIPPEE::LIRONWed Dec 07 1988 14:354
    re .4
>        shuttles, but I think there's a more general term for comparing a
>    person to a thing that I can't remember right now.  It's related
>    to "objectification" and I learned it in a psychology class when
592.6bingo!DOODAH::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanWed Dec 07 1988 17:583
    Yes, that's it!  Thanks.
    
    --bonnie
592.7Yes, but just a few more ifs, ands and buts ...CLT::LASHERWorking...Wed Dec 07 1988 21:306
    Re: .5 (reification)

    Isn't that what you call it when someone never commits themselves to
    anything, because they always have one more proviso to add?

Lew Lasher
592.8Thingification?DELNI::GOLDBERGWed Dec 07 1988 22:393
    Isn't "reverse anthropomorphism" a way of dealing with existential
    anguish ... a technique by which "being-for-itself" satisfies 
    a yearning to become "being-in-itself"? Also called "thingification".
592.9ananthromorphismFLASH1::KALLISAnger's no replacement for reason.Thu Dec 08 1988 14:196
    I kinda like "ananthromorphism."  It's so easy to get confused by
    that one.
    
    :-)
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
592.10Close, but no cookie...IND::BOWERSCount Zero InterruptThu Dec 08 1988 15:075
    Reification is not the treatment of a person as a thing.  It is
    treating an abstract concept as though it were a concrete object.
    "Intelligence" is often given as an example of a reified concept.
    
    -dave
592.11pitfall -- oops, wrong topicAITG::DERAMODaniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'EramoThu Dec 08 1988 16:383
     dehumanize (verb) or dehumanification (noun)?
     
     Dan
592.12side-trackMARVIN::KNOWLESthe teddy-bears have their nit-pickFri Dec 09 1988 11:2420
    Re `dumb terminals' (.0_
    
    This isn't germane to the present discussion, but in my understanding
    a `dumb' terminal isn't stupid, although there's ample scope for
    the technically minded to muddy the waters by arguing that a dumb
    terminal `lacks intelligence' (in which `intelligence' has a
    technomorphous meaning itself).
    
    Some time ago, when canals were more reliable than roads and
    steam-engines weren't around, there were two sorts of barge:
    one type with a sail or sails (its own motive force) and one type
    that had to be pulled (a dumb barge). I believe that whoever
    coined the expression `dumb terminal' had this in mind -
    a dumb terminal didn't have a built-in difference machine.
    
    Of course, people who say `dumb terminal' nowadays probably
    do have some kind of `lack of intelligence' in mind.  But, as
    far as I'm concerned, all machines are necessarily stupid.
    
    b
592.13I reserve the right to be stupider than the machinneMARVIN::MACHINFri Dec 09 1988 11:316
    Bob -- to suggest that a machine can be 'stupid' does lend the machine
    a degree of intelligence. And to say it's 'necessarily stupid' suggests
    an inflexibility in your own point of view that's --er -- almost
    mechanical!
    
    Richard. 
592.14how now? :-)FLASH1::KALLISAnger's no replacement for reason.Fri Dec 09 1988 14:239
    Re .12 (Bob):
    
    ... So if you take an intelligent terminal and remove its logic
    elkements that elevate it to its "intelligent" state, could it be
    said that you would indumbnify it?
    
    Curious minds want to know.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
592.15how now, brown .... moose ?CLARID::BELLDavid Bell, Service Technology @VBOFri Dec 09 1988 14:391
	A terminal with antlers ?
592.16... Strap one of these to the hood of your car ...CSSE::CIUFFINIGod must be a Gemini...Fri Dec 09 1988 15:115
    
  re: <- 1 ,
     Must be "moose" as there are a number of dead VT100's around here
     that seem to be 'shot'.
     jc
592.17BMT::BOWERSCount Zero InterruptFri Dec 09 1988 15:321
    MOOSE:  A pointing device for REAL MEN!
592.18He only does it to annoy, because he knows it teasesMARVIN::KNOWLESthe teddy-bears have their nit-pickFri Dec 09 1988 17:2812
    Re .13
    
    Richard,
    
    `Stupid' was the wrong word to use, but anything that does nothing but
    shuffle ones and zeros about strikes me as pretty dumb - regardless of
    the amount of `intelligence' someone has programmed it with. And
    any digital computer - necessarily - does that (doesn't it?)
    
    Inflexible? Me? Hier stehe ich, ich kann nicht anders.
    
    b 
592.19a best-seller among devices, at one timeMARVIN::MACHINFri Dec 09 1988 18:007
    But Bob, all many of us round here do is shuffle ones and zeros
    about -- and not always with very great success!
    
    I think the rhetorical device we're after here is prosopopoeia (not
    sure if my spelling's right).
    
    Richard.
592.20Prosopopoeia = anthropomorphism (more or less)MARVIN::MACHINMon Dec 12 1988 10:317
    RE: .19
    
    So it's not Prosopopoeia. 
    
    Anybody got a dictionary of tropes?
    
    Richard.
592.21TKOV51::DIAMONDThis note is illegal tender.Thu Apr 19 1990 11:243
    Solved by back-formation:
    
    anthropomorphism is the opposite of thropomorphism.
592.22un-manGLIVET::RECKARDJon Reckard, 381-0878, ZKO3-2/T63Thu Apr 19 1990 14:118
re: .prev
>   Solved by back-formation:
>   anthropomorphism is the opposite of thropomorphism.

I thought "anti" changed to "anth" when prefixed to a word beginning with a
"rho" (and maybe others)?  So, maybe it's "ropomorphism" or "hropomorphism".

Further, what's "anthropos" the opposite of?
592.23nah...MACNAS::DKEATINGCrystal Palace for the CupThu Apr 19 1990 16:573
.22�Further, what's "anthropos" the opposite of?

    err...unclehropos ;-)
592.24apropos ???PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseFri Apr 20 1990 12:121
    
592.25ERIS::CALLASCarry wood, chop waterFri Apr 20 1990 20:383
    "Civilized."
    
    	Jon