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592.1 | Techno + morph = Technomorp(ous) | HSSWS1::GREG | Malice Aforethought | Wed Dec 07 1988 02:19 | 11 |
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Techno- a combining form meaning: a) art, science, skill,
as in technocracy; b) technical, technological,
as in technochemistry
-morph a combining form meaning one having a (specified)
form, as in pseudomorph; used to form nouns
generally ending in morph or morphous.
- Greg
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592.2 | cybercrud | EAGLE1::EGGERS | Tom, VAX & MIPS architecture | Wed Dec 07 1988 03:27 | 1 |
| cybercrud
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592.3 | Even pizzas come in mini sizes... | LAMHRA::WHORLOW | Prussiking up the rope of life! | Wed Dec 07 1988 04:13 | 14 |
| 'day,
S'easy as 1-2-3,
People have to be vaxinated as children, nowadays...
They drive compaq cars, grow wyser, Pick their mates, and ask a
PC when they get lost. They listen to symphonies, eat apples, or
pears or apricots; have discussions and love to get into tallgrass.
They sometimes ride tandem, and if that don't suit, then facom.
They wang away to be beside the C for their hols, and nowadays,
often network in public.
derek
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592.4 | I'm a technomorphic moron | DOODAH::RANDALL | Bonnie Randall Schutzman | Wed Dec 07 1988 14:18 | 18 |
| "Technomorphism" (.1) is nicely specific to computers and space
shuttles, but I think there's a more general term for comparing a
person to a thing that I can't remember right now. It's related
to "objectification" and I learned it in a psychology class when
we talked about autism. One manifistation of autism is behavior
that reduces the people around the sufferer -- and often the
sufferer him/herself -- to the status of objects. The case in
point was the boy who thought he would die if his "cord" got
unplugged from the wall. The process has a perfectly good name
which I can't remember. Anybody else?
Though I tend to think of both anthropomorphism and technomorphism
as simply metaphors and base my decision on whether to use them on
how useful the metaphor is in a particular context.
Or whether I can get a good pun out of it.
--bonnie
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592.5 | Reification ? | YIPPEE::LIRON | | Wed Dec 07 1988 14:35 | 4 |
| re .4
> shuttles, but I think there's a more general term for comparing a
> person to a thing that I can't remember right now. It's related
> to "objectification" and I learned it in a psychology class when
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592.6 | bingo! | DOODAH::RANDALL | Bonnie Randall Schutzman | Wed Dec 07 1988 17:58 | 3 |
| Yes, that's it! Thanks.
--bonnie
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592.7 | Yes, but just a few more ifs, ands and buts ... | CLT::LASHER | Working... | Wed Dec 07 1988 21:30 | 6 |
| Re: .5 (reification)
Isn't that what you call it when someone never commits themselves to
anything, because they always have one more proviso to add?
Lew Lasher
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592.8 | Thingification? | DELNI::GOLDBERG | | Wed Dec 07 1988 22:39 | 3 |
| Isn't "reverse anthropomorphism" a way of dealing with existential
anguish ... a technique by which "being-for-itself" satisfies
a yearning to become "being-in-itself"? Also called "thingification".
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592.9 | ananthromorphism | FLASH1::KALLIS | Anger's no replacement for reason. | Thu Dec 08 1988 14:19 | 6 |
| I kinda like "ananthromorphism." It's so easy to get confused by
that one.
:-)
Steve Kallis, Jr.
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592.10 | Close, but no cookie... | IND::BOWERS | Count Zero Interrupt | Thu Dec 08 1988 15:07 | 5 |
| Reification is not the treatment of a person as a thing. It is
treating an abstract concept as though it were a concrete object.
"Intelligence" is often given as an example of a reified concept.
-dave
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592.11 | pitfall -- oops, wrong topic | AITG::DERAMO | Daniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'Eramo | Thu Dec 08 1988 16:38 | 3 |
| dehumanize (verb) or dehumanification (noun)?
Dan
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592.12 | side-track | MARVIN::KNOWLES | the teddy-bears have their nit-pick | Fri Dec 09 1988 11:24 | 20 |
| Re `dumb terminals' (.0_
This isn't germane to the present discussion, but in my understanding
a `dumb' terminal isn't stupid, although there's ample scope for
the technically minded to muddy the waters by arguing that a dumb
terminal `lacks intelligence' (in which `intelligence' has a
technomorphous meaning itself).
Some time ago, when canals were more reliable than roads and
steam-engines weren't around, there were two sorts of barge:
one type with a sail or sails (its own motive force) and one type
that had to be pulled (a dumb barge). I believe that whoever
coined the expression `dumb terminal' had this in mind -
a dumb terminal didn't have a built-in difference machine.
Of course, people who say `dumb terminal' nowadays probably
do have some kind of `lack of intelligence' in mind. But, as
far as I'm concerned, all machines are necessarily stupid.
b
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592.13 | I reserve the right to be stupider than the machinne | MARVIN::MACHIN | | Fri Dec 09 1988 11:31 | 6 |
| Bob -- to suggest that a machine can be 'stupid' does lend the machine
a degree of intelligence. And to say it's 'necessarily stupid' suggests
an inflexibility in your own point of view that's --er -- almost
mechanical!
Richard.
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592.14 | how now? :-) | FLASH1::KALLIS | Anger's no replacement for reason. | Fri Dec 09 1988 14:23 | 9 |
| Re .12 (Bob):
... So if you take an intelligent terminal and remove its logic
elkements that elevate it to its "intelligent" state, could it be
said that you would indumbnify it?
Curious minds want to know.
Steve Kallis, Jr.
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592.15 | how now, brown .... moose ? | CLARID::BELL | David Bell, Service Technology @VBO | Fri Dec 09 1988 14:39 | 1 |
| A terminal with antlers ?
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592.16 | ... Strap one of these to the hood of your car ... | CSSE::CIUFFINI | God must be a Gemini... | Fri Dec 09 1988 15:11 | 5 |
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re: <- 1 ,
Must be "moose" as there are a number of dead VT100's around here
that seem to be 'shot'.
jc
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592.17 | | BMT::BOWERS | Count Zero Interrupt | Fri Dec 09 1988 15:32 | 1 |
| MOOSE: A pointing device for REAL MEN!
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592.18 | He only does it to annoy, because he knows it teases | MARVIN::KNOWLES | the teddy-bears have their nit-pick | Fri Dec 09 1988 17:28 | 12 |
| Re .13
Richard,
`Stupid' was the wrong word to use, but anything that does nothing but
shuffle ones and zeros about strikes me as pretty dumb - regardless of
the amount of `intelligence' someone has programmed it with. And
any digital computer - necessarily - does that (doesn't it?)
Inflexible? Me? Hier stehe ich, ich kann nicht anders.
b
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592.19 | a best-seller among devices, at one time | MARVIN::MACHIN | | Fri Dec 09 1988 18:00 | 7 |
| But Bob, all many of us round here do is shuffle ones and zeros
about -- and not always with very great success!
I think the rhetorical device we're after here is prosopopoeia (not
sure if my spelling's right).
Richard.
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592.20 | Prosopopoeia = anthropomorphism (more or less) | MARVIN::MACHIN | | Mon Dec 12 1988 10:31 | 7 |
| RE: .19
So it's not Prosopopoeia.
Anybody got a dictionary of tropes?
Richard.
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592.21 | | TKOV51::DIAMOND | This note is illegal tender. | Thu Apr 19 1990 11:24 | 3 |
| Solved by back-formation:
anthropomorphism is the opposite of thropomorphism.
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592.22 | un-man | GLIVET::RECKARD | Jon Reckard, 381-0878, ZKO3-2/T63 | Thu Apr 19 1990 14:11 | 8 |
| re: .prev
> Solved by back-formation:
> anthropomorphism is the opposite of thropomorphism.
I thought "anti" changed to "anth" when prefixed to a word beginning with a
"rho" (and maybe others)? So, maybe it's "ropomorphism" or "hropomorphism".
Further, what's "anthropos" the opposite of?
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592.23 | nah... | MACNAS::DKEATING | Crystal Palace for the Cup | Thu Apr 19 1990 16:57 | 3 |
| .22�Further, what's "anthropos" the opposite of?
err...unclehropos ;-)
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592.24 | apropos ??? | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Fri Apr 20 1990 12:12 | 1 |
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592.25 | | ERIS::CALLAS | Carry wood, chop water | Fri Apr 20 1990 20:38 | 3 |
| "Civilized."
Jon
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