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556.1 | Architechtural methodology | BISTRO::BLOMBERG | Ancient Systems Support | Fri Sep 02 1988 10:12 | 12 |
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ARCHITECHTURE.
Everything should be architectures nowadays. Soon we'll probably
refer to the lunch menu as "Lunch Management Architechture, LMA".
METHODOLOGY.
I've the feeling that "methodology" is sometimes used as a beefed-up
version of "method". But there is actually a difference.
Ake
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556.2 | Shades of the NTDD | TLE::SAVAGE | Neil, @Spit Brook | Fri Sep 02 1988 18:48 | 15 |
| By "new/improved" do you mean invented since the following tome
hit the network?
NOT
THE DIGITAL DICTIONARY
or
"A Fistful of Floppies"
A guide to Understanding DECspeak,
Illogical Grammar, Misspellings,
Euphemisms, and other Code Words
Used in Digital Equipment Corporation
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556.3 | See related topic, Notes 2.* | TLE::SAVAGE | Neil, @Spit Brook | Fri Sep 02 1988 18:59 | 2 |
| The title doesn't state it explicitly, but at much of the discussion
here is about buzzwords.
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556.4 | ... Zen and the meaning of words ... | CURIUS::CIUFFINI | If my Personal Name were a song, it | Fri Sep 02 1988 19:38 | 9 |
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Allow me to translate 'portability'. It means written in C. :-)
jc
p.s. No one seems to have mentioned the new, granulated, guaranteed
to make everyone feel comfortable word, "platforms". As in
the VMS platform and the Ultrix platform, etc. ( And some of
you might have thought they were shoes.... :-) )
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556.5 | | HOCUS::HOLLAND | Ask for dopamine by name | Fri Sep 02 1988 19:50 | 7 |
| From a quarterly review of a sales rep:
"X.. needs to proactively work to grow her skills and increase
penetration of this account at the appropriate decisioning levels."
Huh?
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556.6 | | ERIS::CALLAS | Waiter, there's a bug in my code | Fri Sep 02 1988 23:06 | 7 |
| When we announced the Calypso (VAX 6200) systems, I watched the
annoucement here in the ZK caf with a lot of other people. They were
announced as the "VAX 6200 series solutions platforms." I said a little
loudly, "Gee, and here I'd thought they were computers!" I was pleased
that laughter spread through the room.
Jon
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556.7 | RE: 556.1 - methodology | GYPC::PONY | | Mon Sep 05 1988 17:57 | 2 |
| The same is true for "technology" - used mostly in the wrong place...
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556.8 | User-friendly | ODIHAM::HILL | Technology Consultant - sometimes | Fri Sep 16 1988 18:19 | 9 |
| Surely the ultimate buzzword is:
User-friendly
Which when translated means:
As attractive as a cornered rat
Nick
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556.9 | ?????????????? | IJSAPL::ELSENAAR | They'll lift you up in their hands | Fri Sep 16 1988 18:42 | 10 |
| RE -1 (Nick)
> User-friendly
> Which when translated means:
> As attractive as a cornered rat
I thought "user-friendly" meant either "only for friendly users" or
"works only when the user is friendly".
Arie
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556.10 | | VISA::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Sat Sep 17 1988 13:13 | 2 |
| Now who was it that used the personal name of "computer-friendly
liveware"?
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556.11 | Doable & Xeroxed??? | WHEEL::SWINIARSKI | NANcy--*NANSKI*--SwiniarSKI | Mon Sep 19 1988 20:25 | 8 |
| My latest "Pet-Peeves"
Doable - Does this mean that if you can't complete the
specific task in question that it's "Undoable"?
Xeroxed - I saw this in a Documentation Plan. Since when is
the trade make for the Xerox Corp. a verb?
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556.12 | | PSTJTT::TABER | Answer hazy -- ask again later | Mon Sep 19 1988 22:39 | 8 |
| > Xeroxed - I saw this in a Documentation Plan. Since when is
> the trade make for the Xerox Corp. a verb?
Since about a year after they became popular. Certainly by the mid-60's
"Xeroxed" was in popular use. Xerox is fighting it, of course, since
they don't want to lose the rights to their name, but it looks like a
losing battle.
>>>==>PStJTT
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556.13 | | AKOV11::BOYAJIAN | That was Zen; this is Dao | Tue Sep 20 1988 07:52 | 8 |
| �Since when is the trade make [*sic*] for the Xerox Corp. a
verb?�
Since it's a lot easier to say than "xerographed" or "photostatted"
(incidentally, "Photostat" is also a trademark, according to the
AHD).
--- jerry
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556.14 | > < | KERNEL::TBOOKER | Non-contentious statements only | Tue Sep 20 1988 15:22 | 1 |
| Never heard Xeroxed used. We do, however, make lots of photocopies.
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556.15 | free advertising | UNTADI::ODIJP | Come up an' be me sometime ! | Tue Sep 20 1988 18:41 | 7 |
| I would have thought Xerox to be more than happy that their brand
name is being used in a general way when talking about
photo-cop-stat-iesisis .
Rather like 'hoover' . (No , not J Edgar) .
John J
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556.16 | Choose a good name over riches. | SEAPEN::PHIPPS | Mike @DTN 225-4959 | Tue Sep 20 1988 19:06 | 13 |
| > I would have thought Xerox to be more than happy that their brand
> name is being used in a general way when talking about
They probably realize that you can get "Xeroxed" on Canon, IBM,
etcetera copiers.
Certainly McDonalds didn't appreciate it when a motel chain
decided to open up a string of cut-rate places and called them
MacSleep!!
They got the court to agree that it was trading on Mac's good
name and reputation. The motel has to pick a different name and
all of those signs have to come down.
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556.17 | Why do you think they register them? | CLOSET::T_PARMENTER | Tongue in cheek, fist in air! | Tue Sep 20 1988 20:22 | 24 |
| It's tough. You want a good name and you want people to use it,
but not too much because then you'll lose your exclusivity. Both
"cellophane" and "aspirin" started out as trademarks. Just recently
the Thermos company lost the exclusive right to call glass vacuum
bottles after themselves. That's why advertisements always say
"use Kleenex brand facial tissues" instead of "use Kleenex".
Just imagine the advantage Bayer would have today if they were the only
ones sellilng aspirin, which they invented by the way, and all the
other manufacturers of the white crystalline compound of
acetylsalicylic acid had to sell it under that name?
Xerox and Coca-Cola have platoons of lawyers who do nothing but
write letters to publishers complaining about using Coke and Xerox
as common words, often uncapitalized. Coca-cola even has people
roaming the country asking in every little soda shop for "a Coke".
If they're served anything but The Real Thing, the owners get a
letter from one of those lawyers, and sometimes a followup visit.
The worst thing that can happen to a trademark is to become a word.
Every maker of jackknives has a "Barlow" in their line. Used to
be only Barlow could sell them.
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556.18 | You want me to what? | CRLVMS::TREESE | Win Treese, Cambridge Research Lab | Tue Sep 20 1988 21:08 | 17 |
| I've heard "Xerox" used as a verb for years. But a friend of mine
who worked for IBM once had something like the following conversation
with a secretary:
"Would you xerox this for me, please?" said he.
"What?"
"Would you xerox this, please?"
"Oh, you mean PHOTOCOPY it."
Re .11
> Doable - Does this mean that if you can't complete the
> specific task in question that it's "Undoable"?
When I've heard it used, that's exactly what it means.
- Win
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556.19 | xerox, frisbee, and McX. | AKOV12::MILLIOS | twentysomething | Thu Sep 22 1988 21:08 | 21 |
| re: .18
A friend's sister noticed that the copy machine down the hall from
her office wasn't working. Hmm. Call company.
"Hello, Service Department."
"Hi, this is so-and-so from such-and-such, and our xerox machine
isn't working... Can you send somebody out, and look at it?"
(*** notice lack of CAPS on "xerox"... ***)
"(long pause.) (frostily) We will send out an IBM Service
Representative to examine your copy machine this afternoon."
"(equally long pause.) Oh. Thanks."
Same thing goes for Frisbee. It's not a frisbee, it's a flying
disc.
McDonald's also jumped on somebody who opened a restaurant named
"McSushi"... Fast food, served raw.
:^)
Bill
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556.20 | | ERIS::CALLAS | I saw Elvis kissing Santa Claus | Thu Sep 22 1988 23:30 | 4 |
| If you don't like the verb "xerox," you're really not going to like
its elided form, "xox." It's pronounced "zocks."
Jon
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556.21 | Indoable | DSSDEV::CANTOR | moderator | Fri Sep 23 1988 01:22 | 11 |
| Re 'doable'
'Undoable' should mean capable of being undone. To undo something
is to return it to the state it was in before the something
was done. "Undo your shoe laces, Johnny, before pulling off
your shoes." The shoe laces are undoable.
If there were to be a word to describe something which cannot be
done, it would be 'indoable' or 'nondoable.'
Dave C.
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556.22 | unpardonable sin | VENICE::SKELLY | | Sun Sep 25 1988 04:40 | 2 |
| I used to do consulting at Xerox. They got upset if you said you
were going to xerox something in their own offices.
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556.23 | It's better to xerox | PSTJTT::TABER | Answer hazy -- ask again later | Mon Sep 26 1988 17:17 | 3 |
| Re: Xerox
It could be worse...what if A.B. Dick invented the copier first?
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556.24 | | EAGLE1::EGGERS | Tom, 293-5358, VAX Architecture | Mon Sep 26 1988 22:53 | 2 |
| Right. Can you imagine "aeebee"ing an original to get a copy?
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556.25 | Overkill Dept. | DLNVAX::BREEDING | | Tue Sep 27 1988 22:44 | 7 |
| What about the phrase:
MASSIVELY PARALLEL COMPUTING
Is this macho, or what?
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556.26 | Sorry, it's the standard term | MINAR::BISHOP | | Tue Sep 27 1988 23:03 | 10 |
| re .25, "Massively parallel computing"
No, there's a real distinction between small-scale paralleism
(two to ten), medium-scale (hundreds) and large-scale
parallelism (tens of thousands and up).
Each regime has typical kinds of attributes (cost, kind of hardware,
problems it is good for, programming methods and so on).
-John Bishop
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556.27 | Massively Parallel Computing | EAGLE1::EGGERS | Tom,293-5358,VAX&MIPS Architecture | Wed Sep 28 1988 01:39 | 3 |
| John's comment in .26 is correct. While you (or we) might say, "There
MUST be a better term," it is usefully descriptive. I don't know of a
good alternative. At least it hasn't turned into MPC (yet).
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556.28 | mpFc? | AYOV27::ISMITH | Considering a move to Memphis | Wed Sep 28 1988 12:45 | 10 |
| .27�< Note 556.27 by EAGLE1::EGGERS "Tom,293-5358,VAX&MIPS Architecture" >
.27� -< Massively Parallel Computing >-
.27�
.27� good alternative. At least it hasn't turned into MPC (yet).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It just did.
Ian.
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556.29 | no flame, just wondering | PSTJTT::TABER | Answer hazy -- ask again later | Wed Sep 28 1988 17:20 | 11 |
| > -< Sorry, it's the standard term >-
>[...]
> No, there's a real distinction between small-scale paralleism
> (two to ten), medium-scale (hundreds) and large-scale
> parallelism (tens of thousands and up).
Odd, if it's the standard term, that you didn't use it in your
description. Or is there a leap from large-scale (tens of thousands and
up) to massive (even more up than up)?
>>>==>PStJTT
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556.30 | PMPSSP | PRGMUM::FRIDAY | | Thu Oct 13 1988 20:41 | 6 |
| Can we combine .0, .6 and .25 into PMPSSP?
That's
Proactive Massively Parallel Series Solutions Platforms
in case you couldn't guess.
Is this the way you get to become a consulting engineer?
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556.31 | ant vs ing | EAGLE1::EGGERS | Tom,293-5358,VAX&MIPS Architecture | Fri Oct 14 1988 00:20 | 8 |
| Re: .30
Not at Digital. Digital doesn't have "consulting engineers". It has
"consultant engineers" instead. I tried to get personnel to change the
title about ten years ago and failed, even after getting about 75% of
those engineers to sign a petition.
But I've got "consulting" on my business card!
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556.32 | | UCOUNT::BAILEY | Corporate Sleuth | Wed Oct 19 1988 22:44 | 17 |
| As for other buzzwords, my current favorites are:
internationalization (makes a good password -- lots of letters,
fairly easy to type)
connectivity (I know it's a valid term -- but it's overused)
work that issue
own that project
I think the game (correct me if I'm wrong) is to see who has the
bravado or importance to pull off the most outrageous useage
successfully -- what I don't know is if there's a prize!
Sherry
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556.33 | | EAGLE1::EGGERS | Tom,293-5358,VAX&MIPS Architecture | Thu Oct 20 1988 04:48 | 2 |
| Yes, there is a prize. You get that warm, smug, all-knowing feeling
inside that goes with foisting another abomination off on hoi polloi.
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556.34 | Secret codes | ATLAST::DROWN | Goodbye 39 |:( | Thu Oct 20 1988 18:36 | 8 |
|
It took me two months to finally figure out that the term I18N,
a term used all the time in SWS/E at least, stands for
internationalization.
I cannot imagine what X400 stands for though.
/sad
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556.35 | E.g., ANSI X3T5.4 is OSI Management; Got It? | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | | Thu Oct 20 1988 20:08 | 8 |
| X.400 (sometimes pronounced "x dot 400") is the ISO electronic mail
standard. Standards and standards bodies are routinely identified
by arcane acronyms and abbreviations.
Does the 18 in I18N mean 18 letters? Cute.
len.
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556.36 | difficult names made easy | HAMPS::HILL | Technology Consultant - sometimes | Thu Nov 03 1988 14:12 | 7 |
| Re .34 an I18N...
There is someone in Europe who habitually signs his name S14N, because
it is difficult to spell and to pronounce, so S14N is also his VAXMAIL
name.
Nick
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556.37 | When opportunity knocks... | CAM::MILLER | This is NOT a DVN announcement | Thu Nov 03 1988 14:42 | 2 |
| A new buzzword I've heard lately (goes along with "opportunity")
is "career-limiting". Yuck!
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556.38 | official substitute? | EAGLE1::EGGERS | Tom, VAX & MIPS Architecture | Thu Nov 03 1988 15:40 | 4 |
| "Career limiting" is hardly new, but perhaps that's beside the point.
The term is very descriptive, and it's short. What would the author of
.37 suggest for an alternative?
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556.39 | ULTRIX could have been named U4X.... | IJSAPL::ELSENAAR | Fractal of the universe | Mon Nov 14 1988 14:44 | 13 |
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RE -2 (Nick)
> There is someone in Europe who habitually signs his name S14N, because
> it is difficult to spell and to pronounce, so S14N is also his VAXMAIL
I know of him. It is Jan Scherpenhuizen. I only thought it was S12N: start with
the S, 12 characters follow, close with N.
This must be the new escape for Digital! They told me that Digital is performing
not so well lately, because there were no unused TLA's left! :-)
Arie
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556.41 | Memory fails when most needed (kneaded?) | ODIHAM::HILL | Technology Consultant - sometimes | Tue Nov 15 1988 14:54 | 13 |
| Re -2 and -4
Yes it is S12N, not S14N
And the moral of the story is:
"If you've got the manual to hand, refer to it"
Which abbreviates to:
"Don't rely on memory alone".
Nick
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556.42 | | AITG::DERAMO | Daniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'Eramo | Tue Nov 15 1988 18:11 | 7 |
| re .41
>> "If you've got the manual to hand, refer to it"
Shouldn't that be "at hand" instead of "to hand"?
Dan
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556.43 | Economy of words | HSSWS1::GREG | Malice Aforethought | Wed Nov 16 1988 04:19 | 11 |
| re: .42 (Dan)
>> "If you've got the manual to hand, refer to it"
>
> Shouldn't that be "at hand" instead of "to hand"?
Actually, no. It should be:
"Look it up yourself!"
- Greg
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556.44 | Read The Manual; the "F" is silent... | SSGBPM::KENAH | Overlapping chapters | Thu Nov 17 1988 17:35 | 14 |
| >>> "If you've got the manual to hand, refer to it"
>>
>> Shouldn't that be "at hand" instead of "to hand"?
> Actually, no. It should be:
> "Look it up yourself!"
Which in turn is further abbreviated:
RTFM!
andrew
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556.45 | | AITG::DERAMO | Daniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'Eramo | Thu Nov 17 1988 18:40 | 5 |
| Just a short time ago I read something else that had "to
hand" where I would have used "at hand." Is the preference
for one or the other geographical?
Dan
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556.46 | 6ation 4ation | CLOSET::KEEFE | | Thu Nov 17 1988 18:44 | 8 |
| Re .34
Internationalization = 14zat3
'I18N' is old hat already.
-N2l
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556.47 | Yuk | RTOIC2::RSTANGE | double double toil & trouble | Fri Nov 18 1988 13:55 | 4 |
| The other day the FS engineer told me "DC dump" could that be the
garbage disposal of Washington DC???
Rudi.
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556.48 | not quite a garbage response | FLASH1::KALLIS | Anger's no replacement for reason. | Fri Nov 18 1988 15:01 | 7 |
| Re .47 (Rudi):
More likely he meant to say "C D dump."
As in "C Spot run." ;-)
Steve Kallis, Jr.
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556.49 | No z | ATLAST::DROWN | Goodbye 39 |:( | Fri Nov 18 1988 19:00 | 7 |
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Re .46
Nope. Can't use 14zat3 because the folks across the pond replace
the 'z' with an 's' and, in the spirit of I18N ...........
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556.50 | Tower of B3L | CLOSET::KEEFE | | Mon Nov 21 1988 15:54 | 9 |
| RE .49 -
Ratz! You are right, your zenzitivity to the problemz of I18Nization
iz admirable.
The cross-the-ponders will have to create their own local language
variant: 13 I sat 3.
-N2L
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556.51 | To/at | MARVIN::KNOWLES | the teddy-bears have their nit-pick | Tue Nov 22 1988 14:32 | 19 |
| Re .41 etc.
I don't think the distinction's as neat/easy as the geographical
idea in .45 (although I shouldn't be surprised to be told that people
one side of the ocean tend to ignore the distinction more than
people on the other).
The way I understand it, `to hand' refers to the physical nearness of
an object (usually within immediate reach), whereas `at hand' refers to
the less immediate nearness of an agent or agency (often human). EG:
o the book was to hand/help was at hand
o someone in a tight corner might either reach for the
first weapon that came TO hand or hope that reinforcements
were AT hand.
b
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556.52 | Anything like: | SEAPEN::PHIPPS | Maybe her subroutines need debugging | Tue Nov 22 1988 17:39 | 2 |
|
"the thought came to mind"?
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556.53 | at, on, and to ... | IOSG::LAWM | Exit functionality---enter function | Tue Nov 22 1988 18:29 | 15 |
|
My dictionary (Collins English) says:
o at hand - very near or close, esp. in time
o on hand - close by; present
o to hand - accessible
Consequently, something could be to hand without being at hand,
and _vice versa_.
Mat.
*:o)
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556.54 | Is your underware mouseable? | CUPMK::SLOANE | Tempus is fugiting | Mon Dec 12 1988 19:44 | 6 |
|
Underware - a $1.98 name for a program that runs transparently.
Mouseable - a program that you can control with a mouse.
Bruce
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556.55 | | CLARID::BELL | David Bell, Service Technology @VBO | Tue Dec 13 1988 10:19 | 5 |
| There did actually used to be a company called "UnderWare"
developing PC based sofware. Their main product was called
the Basic Reconfiguarable Interactive Editing Facility
- BRIEF
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556.56 | The undercover story? | CUPMK::SLOANE | Tempus is fugiting | Tue Dec 13 1988 21:17 | 8 |
| Re -.1
I understand the company had a short history: It was stripped of all
assets, brought to its knees, and, exposed to the marketplace, slowly
went down. Or was there a coverup someplace?
Bruce
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556.57 | I've just had a right giggle | WARDER::SACKFIELD | keep on trucking .... | Tue Dec 20 1988 11:24 | 13 |
| Hello everyone,
I have just spent a very enjoyable few minutes reading this conference.
I love everyone's sense of humour - I've driving my colleague, Paul
Joy potty cos I keep giggling and he's busily working away creating
DECslides for a presentation -
Regards
Janice Sackfield
Warrington UK
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556.58 | of all names.... | IJSAPL::ELSENAAR | Fractal of the universe | Tue Dec 20 1988 12:08 | 9 |
| RE -1 (Janice)
> ..... - I've driving my colleague, Paul
> Joy potty cos I keep giggling .....
Remind him of a relative: Sharon N. Joy
Arie
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556.59 | ..and his female cousin, Helen Joy | LAMHRA::WHORLOW | Prussiking up the rope of life! | Tue Dec 20 1988 23:31 | 1 |
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556.60 | | EAGLE1::EGGERS | Tom, VAX & MIPS architecture | Wed Dec 21 1988 01:13 | 1 |
| And his blind Chinese cousin, the airline pilot, No Joy.
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556.61 | A slight distinction... | OSL07::HENRIKW | Dyslexia lures OK | Wed Dec 21 1988 08:54 | 1 |
| Paul to friends, Joy to the world.
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556.62 | You're all mad | 41996::SACKFIELD | keep on trucking .... | Thu Dec 22 1988 13:08 | 7 |
| You are all mad !!!!
No Paul doesn't know Sharon N. Joy
Have a wonderful Xmas and New Year
Love
Janice
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556.63 | but, doctor, Janice TOLD me.... | 51402::ELSENAAR | Fractal of the universe | Thu Dec 22 1988 14:15 | 5 |
| > You are all mad !!!!
Finally, someone who understands us....
Arie
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556.64 | no more ZZZZ's please | RTOIC3::RSTANGE | double double toil & trouble | Fri Dec 23 1988 11:49 | 7 |
| having been on the road for some time, coming to read the replies
to .47 just now, and I do jiggle, for you take me for the "people
from the other side of the pond" (of course I take it for a compliment)
but I am from Germany (as a complement). In future I'll convert
to English "No more ZZZZs". Happy holidays,
Rudi
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556.65 | busswords, anyone? | IJSAPL::ELSENAAR | Fractal of the universe | Fri Dec 23 1988 12:08 | 7 |
| RE -1
Entschuldigung, Rudi.
ein gl�ckliches neues Jahr
:-)
Arie
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556.66 | You saw it here first! | SKIVT::ROGERS | But Otto, what about our relationship? | Fri Jan 20 1989 15:39 | 7 |
| While going through our latest round of "affordability" exercises (there's
another abomination), I read about "Midcro" metrics. Somewhere between
"Macro" and "Micro".
Arrrgggghhhh!!!
Larry
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556.67 | Huh? | IOSG::LAWM | Mathew Law (only *one* T), Reading UK | Mon Apr 24 1989 19:23 | 12 |
|
This seems as good a place as any to enter the following little gem that arrived
in a memo this morning. No names, no pack-drill. (And if the writer is reading
this, then I'm not in for the next several months... :-)
"...we will be transitioning to this new organisation as
we work the details of roles and responsibilities..."
No comment!
Mat.
*:o)
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556.68 | Don't worry | IOSG::CARLIN | Dick Carlin IOSG | Tue Apr 25 1989 14:08 | 7 |
| Re .67
Don't worry Mat. The writer is away on holiday. Usual procedure for
reorganisation announcements.
Dick
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