Conference rocks::uk_digital

    I know the answer is in here somewhere but I can't find it, I have been
    ages using search and can't find it...
    
    Now that I have been 'rolled out' with exchange I need to know how to
    locate notes files with the pc versions of notes (In this case
    Teamlinks Conferencing) I can't use just HUMANE::DIGITAL_UK for
    instance.
    
    I would appreciate a pointer to this info.
    
    Many thanks
    
    Jim
    (The death of ALL-IN-1 will be a sad day!)

    Well,  from the VAX notes interface you can do a
    "show entry uk_digital"  and note the node name and the file name.
    
    Put these in the popup box for "Notebook...Add"
    
    Jc
    
    (and don't dare say that you have 500+ to add:-)
    
    

From the Teamlinks Conferencing you can access a remote notebook,
e.g. your existing notebook on CHEFS, and then copy to your local
notebook.

I suggest you contact the helpdesk on 6464 and get someone to talk
you through the process - this is what I had to do to get VTX and 
Notes up and running from the PC environment.


Regards
Mike 

    Jc
    
    I've done that but the teamlinks confrencing won't recognise the
    nodename. What I need is the translation from <DECNET NODENAME>:: to
    the TCPIP <node>.<location>.dec.com
    
    Regards,
    
    Jim
    (and it's only about 200!)

Hi, Jim...

Under Options -> Setup

try setting up a route through node - use WOTVAX.OLO.DEC.COM.

That should enable you to use the existing notebook entries without any 
modifications.

Rgds,
Graham

Jim,

I went through all this!
As an example, I used the following syntax for the remote notebook path:

    disk$end_user_9:[taylorm][email protected]

I suggest you try 6464 if you have any further problems.


Regards
Mike.

Oh, and I've just remembered something else!

In my case, I had to set the file protection of the remote notebook file
to world read, by going into DCL from my ALL-IN-1 account.

Regards
Mike.

    And what happens when (as per mr conway's mail) the All-in-1 account
    and its files are removed (and its systems shut down) ?

Use Netnotes, which allows you to copy the notebook locally.

ISVHUB::NETNOTES


Greg

    Including maybe you 'M:' drive as well...
    
    Jc
    

For amyone who wants - I have a VMS box in Newmarket which will NOT be 
going away. It has the noteserver on it and can be used as a routethru 
node.

If in real problems, I will even create accounts on there for you to use.

Its WELPCP and is DECnet node 41.96 or tcp node 16.183.48.114.

Contact me at [email protected] for more info/help etc. Of course, all 
done as a 'best efforts' and 'no guarantee' basis.

Alan

    Many thanks again gents... 
    
    Particularly Alan, why didn't I think of that!
    
    Regards,
    
    Jim

    It's me again....
    
    I've installed netnotes and copied my remote notebook to local and it
    runs ok for at least one conference but when I aqttempt to connect to
    this conference I get the message:-
    
    "ROCKS.reo.dec.com remote node is unknown"
    
    What next? And do I really have to manually change each conference that
    I want to connect to?
    
    Regards,
    
    Jimbo

    re-1
    
    I *think* that for accessing via Netnotes (rather than the Teamlinks
    notes interface), something specific has to be set on the system which
    is running the notes conference.  I think this is something in the
    System startup procedures (sorry, I'm a bit hazy....).  I've not been
    able to see many Notes conferences via Netnotes.  
    
    Mikef 

Jim,

Use the Windows notews interface (PWCONF.EXE) and go via WELPCP. Thats what 
I do and it just plain works !!!

Alan

	As I mentioned in the UK_Music notes conference - you can
	use your web browser to get access to Notes:


	           <<< MARVIN::DISK$GENERAL:[NOTES$LIBRARY]UK_MUSIC.NOTE;3 >>>
                          -< The UK Music Conference >-
================================================================================
Note 4.20             UK_MUSIC conference policy discussion             20 of 21
DRAM::SYSTEM                                         13 lines  28-MAY-1997 08:05
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

	You could on the other hand just access the notes conferences 
	from your Web browser (is this the same as Netnotes?).  

	Current list of all conferences at:

		http://www-esn.lkg.dec.com/decnotes/

	UK_Music conference is at:

		http://www-notes.lkg.dec.com:8888/marvin/uk_music/

	Trevor.

It looks like I've cracked it by using WELPCP..

Many thanks Alan


Regards,

Jim

One minor problem....

I can't see what note number I am looking at! Is this normal??

Regards,

Jim

What interface ?

Alan

�What interface ?
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�Alan
    
    
    Using either Netnotes or Teamlinks Conferencing.
    
    Regards,
    
    Jim

Re: accessing notes after CHEFS or WOTVAX.

I thought that each site would have its own server. ie. HHL has HHLSV1 and 
Reading has REOSV1 to REOSV4. These have CCS Kits and I thought could be used 
to access remote ALL-IN-1  for Visitors and notes etc. Unlike WELPCP (So 
that's where our VAX went Alan) will be backed up on a regular basis.

Ian

re.46:

>I thought that each site would have its own server. ie. HHL has HHLSV1 and 
>Reading has REOSV1 to REOSV4. These have CCS Kits and I thought could be used 
>to access remote ALL-IN-1  for Visitors and notes etc. 

The document I saw on the migration stated that Notes was not a business tool
and therefore there was no migration plan. Whoever wrote that was, of course, 
completely unaware of the huge benefits of network collaboration tools and
their wide use in Digital. Even so, their narrow view of the world will mean
that any servers that might exist today provided by CCS (who are they?) will
not be necessarily be there tomorrow. 

Dave.

>The document I saw on the migration stated that Notes was not a business tool

Whoever wrote that document clearly can't see anything other than 
the inside of their own large intestine.  This place'd grind to a 
halt without notes!!!!!!

    >>The document I saw on the migration stated that Notes was not a
    >>business tool
    
    Given that the workbench's I have seen on various machines have
    NetNotes installed I think that staement is perhaps a little
    misleading. 
    
    
    
    				Stretch.

Alan - I knew what to do with Windows 3.1 but this "new" Windows 95 laptop 
doesn't seem to know about WELPCP - I am currently redirecting through WOTVAX 
no problem with Teamlinks Conferencing but when I try to route through WELPCP 
it wont. Where do I need to tell my box about WELPCP ?

Alan.

In file C:\WINDOWS\HOSTS add the following:

16.183.48.114 welpcp.eoo.dec.com welpcp

If you want to get at shares on it, in C:\WINDOWS\LMHOSTS, add

16.183.48.114 welpcp #pre

Oh yes, this is what my PWCONF.INI file looks like:

[Notes]
Directory=d:\teamlink\pwconf
Temp_Directory=D:\TEAMLINK\PWCONF
Install_Directory=d:\teamlink\pwconf
Name=sharkeya
Personal_Message=Who am I now ?
Notebook_Type=REMOTE
Remote_Notebook_Location=$1$DIA1:[sharkeya][email protected]
Use_PMR=Y
PMR_Node=16.183.48.114
AutoDef=YES
Default_Class_Name=MSDOS
Mail_System=0
User_Environment=1
Server=welpcp.reo.dec.com
Authenticate=1
NOTEBOOK_WINDOW_X_POS=0
NOTEBOOK_WINDOW_Y_POS=0
NOTEBOOK_WINDOW_WIDTH=655
NOTEBOOK_WINDOW_HEIGHT=481
MASTER_WINDOW_X_POS=107
MASTER_WINDOW_Y_POS=62
MASTER_WINDOW_WIDTH=775
MASTER_WINDOW_HEIGHT=553
ACTION_ON_CONFERENCE_OPEN=N U
DEFAULT_SCROLL=Jump
H_SCROLL_ON=Y
V_SCROLL_ON=Y
BUTTON_BAR=Y
BUTTON_POS=32
FULL_BUTTONS_ON=N
USE_COMMAND_LINE=Y
USE_KEYPAD=Y
FULL_MENU_ON=Y
NOTE_READ_WINDOW_X_POS=6
NOTE_READ_WINDOW_Y_POS=16
NOTE_READ_WINDOW_WIDTH=753
NOTE_READ_WINDOW_HEIGHT=465
ConfirmStartMail=0
ConfirmClearPWD=0

[Authen Information]
DLL=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CFCIOS.DLL
Description=ALL-IN-1 Office File Cabinet
LoginFlags=4
ServiceNameLabel=&ALL-IN-1 Account
Server=warder.reo.dec.com
ServiceName=sharkeya
Username=sharkeya
Profile Support=011101311333333101130331103331111111111111111
Profile Version=12581,4,0
Profile Maxlengths Keys=5
Profile Max Lengths 1=0,1,1,1,0,1,30,1,1,20,
Profile Max Lengths 2=32,68,30,30,64,1,0,1,312,30,
Profile Max Lengths 3=0,30,30,1,32,0,30,12,31,31,
Profile Max Lengths 4=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,
Profile Max Lengths 5=0,1,1,0,0,

Alan,

Thanks - working now.

I had to have CCS rebuild my laptop after I blew away Exchange - nobody 
bothered to tell me that CCS workbench supplies a special version of Exchange 
which doesn't live where Microsoft intended and when I tried to get fax 
working...you can guess the rest !

Still haven't got fax and a few other desirable bits but I'm keeping my hand 
off for the moment.

After the rebuild with CCS workbench V1.2 I had to hand-crank a number of bits 
and I seemed have lost HOSTS and LMHOSTS so I have just created these from the 
sample files.

You shouldn't need to faff around with hosts and lmhosts if your 
using WINS.

As I discovered today at Newmarket when I couldn't print - I'm not using WINS 
and for various reasons which are far too boring I will not worry about it for 
now...

WINS assumes that

a) there is a WINS server which is accessable and defined on your PC
b) The server to which you want to get at broadcasts its name so that the 
WINS server can see it.

In NKT you cannot rely on either assumption. So, HOSTS and LMHOSTS is a 
good way to go.

Alan