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| 24.1 | ...and his partner will be? | STAR::BOIKO | VAX/ALPHA Performance Group - ZKO3/4 | Tue Sep 08 1992 19:16 | 8 |
| re .0
Wow!! Well it finally happened....
So who will be his partner...Senna? Has he signed with the team for
another yesr. Or will he be moving on?
-mike-
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| 24.2 | Michael's gone- will Rahal be "Home Alone"? | STAR::BOIKO | VAX/ALPHA Performance Group - ZKO3/4 | Wed Sep 09 1992 00:17 | 9 |
| Yeah, but who will Bobby Rahal race against in '93? Grandpa
Fittipaldi (hey, he was great in his time, but what is he now, 60)?
Old man Mears (he's got to be pushing 55)? Does this mean Mario gets
all of Michael's toys? Maybe John Andretti will get a decent ride with
Uncle Mario. How will Al Unser (no Jr. anymore, please- he's the only
Al Unser racing now, people) fare without Michael? Maybe Galles will
(finally) get that blamed chassis to work. I say- Who knows? We'll
have to wait and find out in '93.
-j-
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| 24.3 | | CRASHR::JILLY | COSROCS -- In Thrust We Trust | Wed Sep 09 1992 09:34 | 2 |
| Reportedly Michael will get between $5 and $10 mil. I gues it could be a 2 year
deal at $5 mil per year.
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| 24.4 | A pretty good raise!! | GLIND1::MCKEE | But, I'm feeling MUCH better now... | Wed Sep 09 1992 11:54 | 7 |
|
According to the local reports here in Indianapolis, Michael will get between
$5 mil and $10 mil based on performance. It is a one year contract. He is
currently getting $3 mil driving for Hass.
Jim
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| 24.5 | | ADSERV::PW::WINALSKI | Careful with that VAX, Eugene | Wed Sep 09 1992 13:34 | 6 |
| RE: .2
If Al Unser, Jr. is the only Al Unser racing these days, who was that who came
in third in this year's Indy 500?
--PSW
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| 24.6 | | MSD26::WOJDAK | Whatcha gonna do when they come for U | Mon Sep 14 1992 09:57 | 9 |
| > grandpa Fittapaldi
Grandpa won yesterdays Pioneer electronics 200.
Al Unser Jr. is now leading Indy racing in points.
Rich
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| 24.7 | rumors | OASS::BURDEN_D | '24 Stude - The only way to Tour | Mon Sep 14 1992 12:18 | 9 |
| Latest gossip:
-McLaren to have BMW V10 power lext year
-Mansell to retire (from F1)
-Mansell to take Mi Andretti's seat in CART for '93
Dave
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| 24.8 | | QETOO::POWIS | | Mon Sep 14 1992 14:28 | 19 |
| re: <<< Note 931.7 by OASS::BURDEN_D "'24 Stude - The only way to Tour" >>>
-< rumors >-
>Latest gossip:
>-McLaren to have BMW V10 power lext year
>-Mansell to retire (from F1)
>-Mansell to take Mi Andretti's seat in CART for '93
Well, the Mansell thing is more than rumor - he announced it at
a press conference before yesterday's race...then again, he
"retired" once before, didn't he? He also said that he'd "look into
the IndyCar World Series to see what, if anything, is available".
Of course, there is an empty seat at Newman-Haas...
As for the BMW V10, isn't McLaren using BMW power in their
"supercar" (named, BTW, the F1)?
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| 24.9 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | '24 Stude - The only way to Tour | Mon Sep 14 1992 14:36 | 7 |
| Yes, the McLaren street car is using BMW power, so the link does
make sense.
Any news on where Senna will end up next year? Does he have an offer
from McLaren to stay?
Dave
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| 24.10 | And when the music stops, everybody grab a seat | NYTP05::JANKOWITZ | Twisty little passages all alike | Mon Sep 14 1992 15:25 | 10 |
| >Any news on where Senna will end up next year? Does he have an offer
>from McLaren to stay?
I thought he'd had the offer a while ago and just flat out said he wasn't
interested!
Now, is it true that Prost's contract says Senna can't drive on the
same team?
Glenn
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| 24.11 | | ADSERV::PW::WINALSKI | Careful with that VAX, Eugene | Mon Sep 14 1992 18:14 | 8 |
| There hasn't been any announcement from either Williams or Prost that they have
formally signed a contract. The rumors concerning Prost's contract with
Williams say that the contract specifies that Senna will not be co-driver.
I don't think Frank Williams has shown any tendancy to believe in Senna clause.
Or the Easter Bunny for that matter.
--PSW
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| 24.12 | Senna | OASS::BURDEN_D | '24 Stude - The only way to Tour | Tue Sep 15 1992 11:36 | 5 |
| So, Senna has refused bids from Ferrari and McLaren and it appears the
no-Senna clause in Prost's contract (if it even has been agreed to) may not
exist. It looks like there may be a Prost-Senna pairing at Williams for '93!
Dave
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| 24.13 | Vogon - JJ Lento/Mansell pays for Indy drive?? | STAR::BOIKO | VAX/ALPHA Performance Group - ZKO3/4 | Wed Sep 16 1992 10:00 | 12 |
|
MOTOR SPORT
=========================
The F1 Suaber team have announced that their second driver will be J.J.
Lehto.
The Canadian brewery Labatt's are considering withdrawing their
sponsorship of the Williams-renault team following Nigel Mansells
retirement from F1. Meanwhile, Carl Haas of the Newman-Hass team has
revealed that he has been having talks with Mansell regarding a place
in his Indy Car team. Florida based Mansell is reported to have offered
$4.5million for the drive.
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| 24.14 | | QETOO::POWIS | | Wed Sep 16 1992 13:46 | 2 |
| ...I was wondering about that too. Maybe it was supposed to read
"has been offered" instead...
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| 24.15 | did he or didn't he? | OASS::BURDEN_D | '24 Stude - The only way to Tour | Fri Sep 18 1992 11:54 | 7 |
| It was reported in CARS_UK that Mansell has *signed* for Newman-Hass for
1993! Any confirmed reports from the US on the deal?
It also seems that Brundle and Damon Hill are tipped as front
runners for the 'other' Williams seat next year.
Dave
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| 24.16 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | '24 Stude - The only way to Tour | Mon Sep 21 1992 17:15 | 4 |
| Mansell is all set with Newman-Hass and now it appears that
Martin Brundle has signed with Williams for 1993.
Dave
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| 24.17 | Nigel Mansell coming to Loudon NH... | STAR::BOIKO | VAX/ALPHA Performance Group - ZKO3/4 | Mon Sep 21 1992 20:09 | 12 |
| re .16
Nigel Mansell at Loudon...hard to believe!
From Monte Carlo...to NHIS.
I think he should do say 2 years in CART, and then move on to
NASCAR...and bring that Senna fella along too :-)
1993 is going to be an interesting year in both F1 and CART.
-mike-
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| 24.18 | McLaren engines? Ford? Renault? | MANSEL::coughlin | | Mon Oct 12 1992 17:20 | 10 |
| anybody heard if Ford and McLaren are talking?
I thought that perhaps Michael Andretti, going to McLaren, might prompt Ford to
supply engines ... I wonder are there any contract exclusions in favor of
Benneton?
The Cars_Uk crowd feel that McLaren is trying to buy Ligier's contract for
second-string Renault engines; somehow, I suspect that Ron Dennis could do
better than that ... ?
/Mike
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| 24.19 | "I gots me gun...there's me foot..." | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Thu Dec 10 1992 22:30 | 67 |
| From: [email protected] (UPI)
Subject: 1993 French F1 Grand Prix cancelled
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 15:42:08 PST
PARIS (UPI) -- The French Formula One Grand Prix has been scratched
from the 1993 calendar, motor sports's international governing body
(FISA) announced Thursday.
But the decision made at a FISA council meeting in Paris did not rule
out the possibility of the French Grand Prix being re-scheduled outside
the country.
``The French Grand Prix could take place outside French borders,'' in
England, Italy or Germany,`` said FISA's British president Max Moseley.
A FISA spokesman told UPI the race had been cancelled because FISA
could not guarantee the ``free movement '' of the competitors' teams in
France, following new restrictions on tobacco advertising imposed by the
French Government.
In particular, FISA said it was unable to indemnify the Williams-
Renault team, which is due to pay a $5.5 million fine imposed by a
French court for displaying cigarette advertising on its cars during
this year's Australian Grand Prix on Nov. 8. The team was found guilty
under French law after French television re-transmitted the event.
Williams-Renault, which will appeal against the severity of the fine,
is partly sponsored by tobacco manufacturer Camel.
If the original fine is upheld, the British-based Williams team would
either have to pay up or have its assets and goods seized on entering
France. It was the French auto sport body's inability to guarantee
against this happening, according to Mosley, that led to FISA's decision
to scrap the event due to take place at Magny-Cours.
In announcing the 1993 calendar, FISA has left open July 4, to enable
the French event to go-ahead, albeit on a foreign circuit, an
arrangement not without precedent.
``The Swiss Grand Prix was held at Dijon (France) a few years ago,''
said the FISA president. ``But it is not for me to tell the French what
to do. They have to decide.''
If the competition is held abroad it would be the first time since
1955 that France has missed hosting a Formula One race. That year all
auto racing in France was cancelled after the 24-hour Le Mans disaster
in which 80 people died.
The French Parliament last week rejected an amendment to the anti-
tobacco law which would have allowed French television to cover
cigarette company -sponsored competitions from countries where such
advertising is legal. But the French Senate upper house has yet to vote
on the amendment and will debate the issue Dec. 18.
``The French Grand Prix is a victim of an anti-smoking law that is
far too rigid,'' said French auto sport federation president Jean-Marie
Balestre.
``It is a catastrophe,'' added French Formula One promoter Philippe
Gurdjian. ``An economic catastrophe and a catastrophe for France's image
abroad.''
------
1993 Formula One Grand Prix calendar (announced Thursday by FISA):
March 14: South Africa (Kyalami)
March 28: Brazil (Sao Paulo)
April 11: European Grand Prix (Donington, England)
April 25: San Marino (Monza)
May 9: Spain (Barcelona)
May 23: Monaco
June 13: Canada (Montreal)
July 4: to be announced
July 11: Britain (Silverstone)
July 25: Germany (Hockenheim)
August 15: Hungary (Hungaroring, Budapest)
August 29: Belgium (Spa-Francorchamps)
Sept. 12: Italy (Monza)
Sept. 26: Portugal (Estoril)
Oct. 24: Japan (Suzuka)
Nov. 7: Australia (Adelaide)
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| 24.20 | ESPN's F1 broadcast schedule | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Tue Feb 23 1993 18:11 | 29 |
| This just came across the net...it shows that ESPN is doing 15 of 16 races
(which means we in the States get either ABC or nothing at all for Monaco),
and of those 15, 10 are broadcast live. I looove getting up early for the
Sunday morning broadcasts from Europe...
ESPN's Speedworld schedule -- F1
+ 15 of 16 Formula One races (10 live)
Air Date Time(ET) Event/Site
March 15 8 pm tape-delay Formula OneGrand Prix of South Africa
28 12 MID same-day Formula One Grand Prix of Brazil
April 11 7:50 am LIVE Formula One Grand Prix of Europe, Donnington,
Great Britain
25 7:50 am LIVE Formula One Grand Prix of San Marino, Imola
Italy
May 9 9:50 am LIVE Formula One Grand Prix of Spain
25 7:50 am LIVE Formula One Grand Prix of Germany
June 13 12 MID same-day Formula One Grand Prix of Canada
July 4 7:50 am LIVE Formula One Grand Prix of France
11 8:50 am LIVE Formula One Grand Prix of Britain
25 7:50 am LIVE Formula One Grand Prix of Germany
Aug 15 7:50 am LIVE Formula One Grand Prix of Hungary
29 7:50 am LIVE Formula One Grand Prix of Belgium
Sept 12 8:50 am LIVE Formula One Grand Prix of Italy
27 9 pm tape-delay Formula One Grand Prix of Portugal
Oct 23 12 MID LIVE Formula One Grand Prix of Japan
Nov 7 8 am same-day Formula One Grand Prix of Australia
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| 24.21 | why do they bother? | LEVLS0::BECASSIDY | | Wed Feb 24 1993 12:07 | 13 |
| >>(which means we in the States get either ABC or nothing at all for Monaco),
Both of which are about the same. I think I was less frusterated last year not
seeing the race at all than the previous years watching the 45 minutes or less
edited version.
They must pay a decent sum of money for the rights to that race and then they
don't even show it. I don't get it. What kills me more is ESPN can't even
show the .5 hrs Checkered Flag program on it.
Didn't ABC give up the contract last year? Anyone know the deal?
Bill
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| 24.22 | | TNPUBS::ALLEGREZZA | George Allegrezza @LKG | Thu Feb 25 1993 08:04 | 11 |
| Re: last
ABC passed on the rights when the F1 powers-that-be increased the price
substantially (like 100%, if memory serves). As the race's Nielsen
ratings were near zero, ABC couldn't sell advertising time at a high
enough rate to make a buck, and thus had to make a business decision.
(The right one, IMHO.)
The F1 people then went to ESPN and offered the rights gratis,
essentially, but ESPN had already made a schedule commitment ("Pay for
Play in Little League?") and couldn't free up the time slot.
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| 24.23 | Last Laps were excellent! | 7892::KCOLBURN | A friend of Mr. Cairo | Thu Feb 25 1993 23:17 | 3 |
| It was on Canadian TV
KC
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| 24.24 | Nigel and Dave! | TFH::JROGERS | | Mon Mar 01 1993 10:48 | 4 |
| Nigel Mansell will be on David Letterman March 4.
Set your VCR's (or stay up!)
Jeff
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| 24.25 | I think Senna is really a nice guy..not! | FILTON::KEARNS_R | OH NO!I'VE GOT THOSE HAPPY FEET! | Wed Mar 10 1993 12:57 | 28 |
| As we're only a few days away from the start of the season, I think we
should have some predictions....
Who fancies answering these questions:
1) Who will be World Champion?
2) What team will win the constructors'
championship?
3) Who or what will be the revelation of
the year?
4) Who or what will be the disappointment
of the year?
My answers....
1) Alain Prost
2) Benetton Ford.
3) I was gonna say Mika Hakkinen...now I'll play
safe and say Damon Hill.
4) Johnny Herbert and the Lotus 107B.
Later peps...
Rob.
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| 24.26 | thoughts | OASS::BURDEN_D | A bear in his natural habitat | Wed Mar 10 1993 15:17 | 17 |
| >1) Alain Prost
my choice too
>2) Benetton Ford.
I pick Williams
>3) I was gonna say Mika Hakkinen...now I'll play
> safe and say Damon Hill.
Schumacher, but I think both Hill and Hakkinen (if
given enough races) will add some excitement
>4) Johnny Herbert and the Lotus 107B.
Ligier, but what's new.....
Dave
ps - now, to find a neighbor with cable and a vcr.....
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| 24.27 | | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Thu Mar 11 1993 12:07 | 36 |
| > 1) Who will be World Champion?
It would be difficult to imagine Prost _not_ walking away with it.
If Nigel Mansell (who I hold in very high regard) won 9 races in
that car, then I'd expect Prost to hit double figures. Unless the
new McLaren can rise to the occasion, this year will be a bigger
trouncing than last.
> 2) What team will win the constructors'
> championship?
Team Williams, no contest.
> 3) Who or what will be the revelation of
> the year?
The fans, pinched by a foul economy and diminished bang for the buck
(less practice and qualifying times, fewer teams, no pre-qualifying)
will stay away. The revelation is that there is an upper limit to
prices.
I am missing Canada for the first time since '85 for all these reasons.
> 4) Who or what will be the disappointment
> of the year?
For me, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Ferrari. That and the fact
that _I_ am not driving for Williams...How I would love to show "Le
Snail" ze FAST way 'round ze circuit ;^) "No, no, no, Alain...you
must take Eau Rouge _flat_ in sixth..."
Re: Note 931.26 by OASS::BURDEN_D
>ps - now, to find a neighbor with cable and a vcr.....
What?!? A racefan like you with _NO CABLE_?!? You barbarian! ;^)
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| 24.28 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | A bear in his natural habitat | Thu Mar 11 1993 13:30 | 7 |
| >>ps - now, to find a neighbor with cable and a vcr.....
>
>What?!? A racefan like you with _NO CABLE_?!? You barbarian! ;^)
no, just cheap....:-)
Dave
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| 24.29 | I'm confused.... | ADSERV::PW::WINALSKI | Careful with that AXP, Eugene | Thu Mar 11 1993 13:51 | 10 |
| RE: .20
There's an inconsistency in the information in this note. It says at the top
that ESPN is doing 15 of the 16 races (no Monaco). However, the details list
all 16 races. But in the May 25 (Monaco) slot, it says "F1 GP of Germany" and
it also says "live". So is ESPN going to show all 16 GPs (including Monaco
live on the 25th), or are they going to broadcast last year's German GP on May
25 (in which case it shouldn't say "live")?
--PSW
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| 24.30 | | TNPUBS::ALLEGREZZA | George Allegrezza @LKG | Fri Mar 12 1993 09:15 | 20 |
| 1) Who will be World Champion?
Just to be contrary, I'll say Mr. A. S. da Silva. IF he's motivated,
and IF the McLaren's gadgets don't trip him up, and IF they've got a
fundamentally good-handling chassis, he'll be unbeatable. Those are
three big ifs, though.
2) What team will win the constructors' championship?
If scenario (1) holds, McLaren. Otherwise, Williams.
3) Who or what will be the revelation of the year?
Sauber.
4) Who or what will be the disappointment of the year?
Michael Andretti. Limited practice time, No. 2 status (remember the
new two-car rule), and F1 politics will conspire to keep him from
achieving his potential.
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| 24.31 | Prost on provisional pole at South Africa | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Fri Mar 12 1993 11:32 | 58 |
| Looks like a good outing for Prost, Senna, Andretti, and especially Alesi!
From: [email protected] (Andrew W Payton)
Subject: F1 - Friday Qual. at Kyalami
Date: 12 Mar 93 13:56:05 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England
>From BBC CEEFAX
Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna are
sat for a battle royal at Kyalami
after leading the way in Friday's
qualifying times.
The old rivals took the first two
spots with the Frenchman gaining an
advantage of 0.348 seconds.
Britain's Damon Hill came home a
creditable fourth, just behind
Benetton's Michael Schumacher.
Jean Alesi was fifth in the leading
Ferrari and American Michael
Andretti sixth in his first serious
outing with the second McLaren.
FIA FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Friday's provisional qualifying times:
mins secs
1 A Prost Fr Williams 1:16.804
2 A Senna Brz McLaren 1:17.152
3 M Schumacher Ger Benetton 1:17.507
4 D Hill GB Williams 1:17.732
5 J Alesi It Ferrari 1:18.775
6 M Andretti US McLaren 1:18.903
7 JJ Lehto Fin Sauber 1:19.120
8 M Brundle GB Ligier 1:19.138
9 R Patrese It Benetton 1:19.341
10 P Alliot Fr Larrousse 1:19.350
11 M Blundell GB Ligier 1:19.688
12 C Fittipaldi Brz Minaridi 1:19.825
13 J Herbert GB Lotus 1:20.809
14 G Berger Aut Ferrari 1:20.066
15 R B'chello Brz Jordan 1:20.118
16 A Zanardi It Lotus 1:20.150
17 K Wendlinger Aut Sauber 1:20.365
18 U Katayama Jpn Tyrrell 1:20.401
19 A De Cesaris It Tyrrell 1:20.721
20 D Warwick GB Footwork 1:20.821
21 I Capelli It Jordan 1:20.841
22 F Barbazza It Minardi 1:20.994
23 E Comas Fr Larrousse 1:31.000
24 A Suzuki Jpn Footwork 1:21.342
25 M Alboreto It Lola 1:22.843
26 L Badoer It Lola 1:24.777
27 JM Gounon Fr March did not run
28 J Lammers Ned March did not run
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| 24.32 | | LEVLS0::BECASSIDY | | Fri Mar 12 1993 12:36 | 15 |
| re: .25
Prost
Williams
Ferrari (I can hope can't I?)
The fact that Mika Hakkinen won't have a ride (if)
re .31
Wouldn't it be great if they lined up for the race like that? Usually it looks
as if they paint the cars according to starting position...
Psyched for Monday!
Bill
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| 24.33 | Prost on pole for SA | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Mar 13 1993 14:07 | 67 |
| Boyoboy, I wish I was able to see the F1 qualifying sessions like the folks
in Europe can...it sounds like this session was excellent! Does anyone
know if the satellite feed can be received from New England?
If the McLaren proves to be race-distance reliable, we might have a
_classic_ season coming up!
Mike
From: [email protected] (UPI)
Subject: Prost takes pole position for South African Grand Prix
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 93 10:19:02 PST
KYALAMI, South Africa (UPI) -- Three-time former world champion Alain
Prost of France held off a determined challenge by arch-rival Ayrton
Senna Saturday to win the pole for the South African Grand Prix, the
opening race of the 1993 Formula One season.
The two men swapped the number one position three times during the
45-minute qualifying session before Prost secured it with a blistering 1
minute and 15.696 second charge around the slippery 2.6-mile Kyalami
circuit. Prost is driving a Williams-Renault.
``To take pole is a very good feeling,'' Prost said after securing
his 21st pole position in 13 years of Formula One racing.
The Frenchman's time was more than a second faster than his
provisional pole position recorded the previous day. Senna, who retired
from the qualifying session nine minutes from the end because of clutch
problems with his McLaren-Ford, confirmed his provisional second
position on the front row of the grid with a time of 1:15.784.
Formula One's rising star Michael Schumacher of Germany drove his
Benetton-Ford into third position with a time of 1:17.261. Britain's
Damon Hill, in his first race for the Williams team, retained his fourth
position on the grid with a time of 1:17.592, with Ferrari's Jean Alesi
in fifth place with a time of 1:18.234. J.J. Lehto of Finland improved
his previous qualifying time by nearly half-a-second and moved up one
position to snatch sixth place in his Sauber with a time of 1:18.234.
The 193.26-mile race weaves around the tight Kyalami circuit, which
offers little space for passing.
The final qualifying session belonged to Prost and Senna, who both
served notice that they should be the drivers to beat in the 16-race
season. Senna beat Prost's provisional pole position time 18 minutes
into the final qualifying session on a hot afternoon which made the
track slippery. Prost, driving his first race after a year's absence,
immediately regained the top spot, only to see the Brazilian snatch it
from him five minutes later.
Coming out on new tires, Prost blasted his way around the circuit to
set the best time of the day. Senna never got another chance because a
slight clutch problem stranded him at the side of the track and put him
out for the remainder of the qualifying session.
``In the circumstances the result is very good,'' Senna said at the
end of the session, ``but there's better to come as we learn more about
the tires and the car.''
Senna, who has won the driver's championships three times for
McLaren, intends using the South African Grand Prix to test the new car
before deciding whether to commit himself to a McLaren drive for the
remainder of the season. Last year a frustrated Senna warned he may not
compete for McLaren in 1993 after the team failed to construct a car to
match the conquering Williams-Renault.
Senna's partner in the McLaren team, Michael Andretti, suffered a
frustrating day. His provisional grid position dropped three places to
ninth position, more than three seconds off the pace. Making his debut
in Formula One racing, Andretti of the United States blew his Ford
engine near the end of the qualifying session. He is the son of 1978
Formula One world champion Mario Andretti.
Many of the top drivers were critical of the length of the qualifying
session, which has been reduced by 15 minutes from the hour-long session
of 1992.
``I hope we can change that,'' Prost said. ``With all the traffic you
can not get a clear lap and that makes qualifying more a case of luck.''
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| 24.34 | Saturday's practice and qualifying | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Mar 13 1993 18:41 | 61 |
| From: [email protected] (Joe Murphy)
Subject: GP South Africa Saturday P2, Q2
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1993 22:10:39 GMT
SATURDAY PRACTICE
1 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'18.533 16 195.327 km/h
2 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'18.896 17 194.428
3 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'19.375 23 193.255
4 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'19.380 9 193.243
5 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'19.950 8 191.865
6 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'19.975 13 191.805
7 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'20.003 14 191.738
8 15 CAPELLI JOR/HA 1'20.029 15 191.676
9 27 ALESI FER 1'20.083 2 191.546
10 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'20.127 10 191.441
11 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'20.134 15 191.424
12 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'20.198 17 191.272
13 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'20.279 10 191.079
14 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'20.530 14 190.483
15 28 BERGER FER 1'20.743 7 189.981
16 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'20.813 15 189.816
17 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'20.834 5 189.767
18 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'20.934 13 189.532
19 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'21.168 15 188.986
20 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'21.296 13 188.688
21 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'21.638 11 187.898
22 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'22.032 4 186.995
23 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'22.058 5 186.936
24 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 1'22.810 6 185.239
25 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 1'22.960 8 184.904
26 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'26.099 3 178.162
SATURDAY QUALIFY
1 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'15.696 9 202.647 km/h
2 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'15.784 7 202.412
3 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'17.261 13 198.543
4 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'17.592 6 197.696
5 27 ALESI FER 1'18.234 13 196.073
6 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'18.664 5 195.002
7 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'18.676 14 194.972
8 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'18.687 11 194.945
9 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'18.786 4 194.700
10 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'18.950 8 194.295
11 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'19.034 19 194.089
12 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'19.285 13 193.474
13 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'19.305 13 193.425
14 28 BERGER FER 1'19.386 7 193.228
15 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'19.396 9 193.204
16 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'19.457 8 193.055
17 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'19.498 16 192.956
18 15 CAPELLI JOR/HA 1'19.759 12 192.324
19 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'20.081 13 191.551
20 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'20.237 4 191.179
21 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'20.402 7 190.786
22 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'20.479 10 190.604
23 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'20.660 11 190.176
24 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 1'21.195 4 188.923
25 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 1'21.893 5 187.313
26 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'23.497 2 183.714
|
| 24.35 | Did Mikey <choke>? (no) film at 11 | TNPUBS::ALLEGREZZA | George Allegrezza @LKG | Tue Mar 16 1993 08:48 | 3 |
| My VCR shit the bed Mon nite, so I won't get the story on what happened
to America's Greatest Racing Driver at the start of the SA GP. Anyone
have any details?
|
| 24.36 | | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Tue Mar 16 1993 11:21 | 11 |
| Re: Note 931.35 by TNPUBS::ALLEGREZZA "George Allegrezza @LKG"
> ...................................................on what happened
> to America's Greatest Racing Driver at the start of the SA GP. Anyone
> have any details?
Some say mechanical (clutch problems), and others say operator error. In
Mr. Andretti's defense, he was interviewed before the race and when he was
asked how the car was, he mentioned some problems with the clutch, and that
the McLaren mechanics were attempting to rectify the problem. I personally
believe he was a victim of his equipment.
|
| 24.37 | How did Michael A. restart ? | BRADOR::ZUFELT | V12 @13k music to my ears | Tue Mar 16 1993 12:01 | 4 |
| How did Andretti get back into the race ? I clearly saw the marshals
pushing him off the track.
Fred
|
| 24.38 | | TNPUBS::ALLEGREZZA | George Allegrezza @LKG | Tue Mar 16 1993 17:00 | 7 |
| Re: 36
Senna complained of clutch problems during practice and qualifying,
so I'm sure the equipment problems experienced by Michael played a
major, if not decisive, part in his flawed start.
|
| 24.39 | | ADSERV::PW::WINALSKI | Careful with that AXP, Eugene | Tue Mar 16 1993 17:01 | 8 |
| I think if you stall on the grid and the start isn't yellow-flagged, you're
allowed to start from the pits.
Let's hope that Michael Andretti recovers from this clutch-related starting
problem as well as Michael Schumacher recovered from destroying the clutch at
the start of his very first GP.
--PSW
|
| 24.40 | | TNPUBS::ALLEGREZZA | George Allegrezza @LKG | Tue Mar 16 1993 17:03 | 6 |
| Re: .39
Good point. I had forgotten about Shoe's little faux pas.
It would be an interesting exercise to map the comments regarding that
incident to the comments being directed at Michael today.
|
| 24.41 | Who did Mikey hit? | TFH::JROGERS | | Thu Mar 18 1993 12:58 | 10 |
| Who did Andretti run up against? Was he following Warwick
and Fittipaldi? Too bad about his equipment, both during
qualifying and the race.
By the way, I heard on BBC this morning that Prost was denied
a personal appearance before the FISA board. He wanted to play
the tape of the interview to state his case, but I guess FISA
wasn't interested.
Jeff
|
| 24.42 | | ADSERV::PW::WINALSKI | Careful with that AXP, Eugene | Thu Mar 18 1993 13:19 | 3 |
| I think it was Warwick that he ran into.
--PSW
|
| 24.43 | Senna Overdriving? | VERSA::ROADES | | Thu Mar 18 1993 15:36 | 13 |
| What does Prost have to do with Mickey?? I missed something!
Did you notice that when Prost was trying to pass Senna, Senna was
making sharper cuts at the exit of the corners than Prost. It almost
seems that his McLaren could handle better than the Williams in the
corners. I was amazed how hard he was turning at speed out of the
corners. It seems that if he would have rounded the corners better he
could have carried more speed in them. Prost was not taking the whole
road and still keeping up with Senna. Even Shomocker (?) was able to
keep up with Senna when he was driving like that.
Great Battle!
jeff
|
| 24.44 | Senna's Racing Lines | TFH::JROGERS | | Fri Mar 19 1993 07:12 | 23 |
| Re: -1, there is no connection between the Andretti comment and
Prost. Separate subject, separate paragraph.
I was noticing that Senna seemed to aggressively cut in on some
corners, particularly at the end of the straight when Prost was
pressing. It seems he holds the outside position, uses extremely
late braking, then chops across to the apex. Such a move does
two things: it prevents someone from trying to outbrake you and
it sends a message when you "shut the door". The downside is
that the exit speed might not be as high since the racing line
was not optimal. Senna seemed to use the larger McLaren wing
to good effect to keep up speed in the corners. Senna really
seems to be able to fling the car through corners. He did it
last year in the German GP, where the Williams active suspension
was supposed to have such a huge advantage. Senna just throws
the car into the corners and hangs on.
It will be interesting to see what happens when Senna returns to
Brazil for the next race. Will Prost be able to take the pole?
Will he be able to pass Senna? Will the McLaren clutch hold up?
Will Schumacher complete the race? Stay tuned....
Jeff
|
| 24.45 | Prost on provisional pole at Interlagos | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Fri Mar 26 1993 17:59 | 32 |
| From: [email protected] (Luiz A. De Rose)
Subject: Brazilian GP, First Qualify
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 21:32:15 GMT
Here are the times from the first qualify in Interlagos:
1 Alain Prost France Williams Renault 1:16.809
2 Damon Hill Britain Williams Renault 1:17.856
3 Ayrton Senna Brazil McLaren Ford 1:18.639
4 Michael Schumacher Germany Benetton Ford 1:19.061
5 Karl Wendlinger Austria Sauber Ilmor 1:19.230
6 Jean Alesi France Ferrari 1:19.260
7 Gerhard Berger Austria Ferrari 1:19.561
8 Johnny Hebert Britain Lotus Ford 1:19.830
9 Philippe Alliot France Larrousse Lamborghini 1:20.057
10 Erik Comas France Larrousse Lamborghini 1:20.061
11 Michael Andretti U.S. McLaren Ford 1:20.093
12 Mark Blundell Britain Ligier Renault 1:20.281
13 Riccardo Patrese Italy Benetton Ford 1:20.388
14 Martin Brundle Britain Ligier Renault 1:20.390
15 J J Lehto Finland Sauber Ilmor 1:20.571
16 Alessandro Zanardi Italy Lotus Ford 1:20.891
17 Rubens Barrichello Brazil Jordan Hart 1:20.999
18 Andrea de Cesaris Italy Tyrrell Yamaha 1:21.224
19 Derek Warwick Britain Footwork Mugen 1:21.532
20 Christian Fittipaldi Brazil Minardi Ford 1:21.547
21 Michele Alboreto Italy Lola Ferrari 1:21.752
22 Ukyo Katayama Japan Tyrrell Yamaha 1:21.923
23 Fabrizio Barbazza Italy Minardi Ford 1:22.112
24 Aguri Suzuki Japan Footwork Mugen 1:22.297
25 Luca Badoer Italy Lola Ferrari 1:22.930
26 Ivan Capelli Italy Jordan Hart 1:23.674
|
| 24.46 | Berger stuffs it, shares Alesi's car | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Fri Mar 26 1993 18:46 | 51 |
| From: [email protected] (EDUARDO COHEN)
Subject: Prost takes provisional pole position for Brazilian Grand Prix
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 14:11:58 PST
SAO PAULO, Brazil (UPI) -- Three-time Formula One champion Alain Prost
clocked the fastest time in first-day qualifying Friday to hold the
provisional pole for the Brazilian Grand Prix.
Prost has won six times from 12 starts in Brazil and confirmed his
position as race favorite Sunday by covering the Interlagos track in one
minute, 16.809 seconds.
The 38-year-old Frenchman, who returned to Formula One racing this
season after a year off, recorded an average speed of 125.959 mph (202.
711 kph).
His teammate, Englishman Damon Hill, clocked the second-fastest time
-- more than a second behind, while Brazilian Ayrton Senna, in a McLaren,
made the posted 1:18.639.
``I cannot deny I am satisfied with the result. Let's just hope
everthing keeps going well tomorrow and I can get the pole position,''
Prost said.
If Prost holds onto the pole Saturday, it will be his 21st time at
the front of the grid in 186 races.
``I think everything is going well and I could win Sunday,'' said
Prost, who won the Brazilian Grand Prix in 1982, '84, '85, '87, '88 and
'90.
Prost made just six of the 12 laps he was allowed, recording his
fastest time third time out.
His arch-rival Senna, 32, also a three-time world champion, and
racing in front of his home crowd, had to settle for third.
``I did everything I could, but it was difficult to best that time,''
Senna said. ``We are going to see if we can do better tomorrow''.
With less than 12 minutes to go in the hour-long heats, the Lotus of
British driver Johnny Hebert began trailing flames forcing him to pull-
up a walk back to the pits.
Stewards dealt with the fire but it suspended the trials for 20
minutes.
After the break, Prost returned to complete his 12 laps and then left
the stadium to a standing ovation from fans.
The trials almost began tragically when with little more than a
minute to go in morning warmups, Austrian Gerhard Berger, slammed his
Ferrari into a wall while trying to jockey for a better position.
Berger's car was damaged in the crash and he had to wait for teammate
Jean Alesi of France to complete his 12 laps before using the same car.
A new Formula One rule outlaws the use of backup cars.
Though Berger only made eight laps before the end of the hour of
trial heats, he stood in seventh place.
The Brazilian GP, the only Formula One race in Latin America this
year, is the second of 16 races on the 1993 circuit.
Prost currently leads world championship standings after winning the
South African Grand Prix March 14. Senna is in second place followed by
Mark Blundell of Britain, who races for the Ligier Renault squad.
Blundell was 12th after the day's practice in Brazil.
|
| 24.47 | Prost secures pole at Brazil | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Mar 27 1993 18:52 | 55 |
| From: [email protected] (EDUARDO COHEN)
Subject: Prost cruises to pole position
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 93 14:19:36 PST
SAO PAULO, Brazil (UPI) -- Without taking too many risks Saturday in
his Williams Renault, Frenchman Alain Prost comfortably secured pole
position for the Brazilian Formula One Grand Prix.
Prost, 38, was far ahead of his rivals Satuday on the 4,325-meter
circuit at Interlagos speedway outside South America's largest city.
When his best time seemed threatened by teammate Damon Hill, he
returned to the track with a new set of tires and improved it again to
clock one minute, 15.866 seconds -- an average speed of 127.524 mph (205.
230kms).
Britain's Hill, in his first season in Formula One, made it a
Williams double by securing second place with 1:16.859.
Brazilian Ayrton Senna in the McLaren was third after posting 1:17.
697.
Of the 12 laps allowed in official heats, Prost clocked a time of
1:16.566 on his fourth lap after which he retired to his squadron's
garage area to watch the efforts of his rivals, the closest of whom was
a second behind Prost.
When Hill clocked 1:16.859 and it seemed there could be a duel going
between the two, Prost returned to the track for his seventh lap and
dashed hope for a contest when he completed the cicuit with an average
of 127.524 mph (205.23 kmh).
``If there are no problems with the car, it will be difficult for
them to overtake me,'' Prost said, ``my biggest rival should be Hill,
who is driving very fast.''
Senna, the Frenchman's traditional rival on and off the track, took
second place in the South African Grand Prix in Kyalami two weeks ago,
but Prost said he did not expect competition from him in Sunday's race.
``The McLaren is not achieving like it did in Kyalami and it will be
very difficult for him to keep up with the pace Hill and I are going to
set,'' Prost said.
In his times Saturday Prost drew within a second of the record for
the fastest lap at the Interlagos circuit, 1:15.703 set by Britain's
Nigel Mansell in 1992 when Formula One cars were allowed to use wider
tires and a more powerful fuel mixture.
The most interesting contest of the day was between Senna and German
driver Michael Schumacher, of the Italian Benneton team. Both vehicles
use Ford eight cylinder engines, though the Italian version is more
modern and powerful.
The 24-year-old German managed to overtake Senna with the third-best
time of 1:17.821 early in the heats Saturday. Senna, driving before a
hometown crowd and with better balance in his McLaren chassis, quickly
bettered his time to 1:17.697 and held onto the third on the grid.
``The day was advantagous because we experimented with modifications
but it is impossible to catch the Williams, so I am going to concern
myself only with guaranteeing the third position and evaluating the
performance of the car in different parts of the circuit,'' Senna said.
``Hill's time shows the Williams cars are still far better than the
rest, very balanced and easy to drive,'' he added.
Prost, world champion in 1985, 1986 and 1989, is bidding for his
seventh Brazilian success from 13 starts. He won in 1982, 1984, 1985,
1987, 1988 and 1990.
|
| 24.48 | Brazilian GP wrap-up | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Mar 28 1993 19:26 | 187 |
| Spoilers ahead...If you're reading this and you don't yet want to know who
won the Brazilian Gran Prix, then continue no further.
From: [email protected] (EDUARDO COHEN)
Subject: Senna wins Brazilian Grand Prix on home track
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 93 14:07:25 PST
SAO PAULO, Brazil (UPI) -- Three-time world champion Ayrton Senna won
the Brazilian Grand Prix for the second time Sunday, triumphing on his
home track through torrential rain that caused his archrival and pole-
sitter Alain Prost to abandon the race after an accident.
Driving a McLaren-Ford, Senna completed 71 laps of the Interlagos
circuit in 1 hour, 51 minutes and 15.485 seconds.
Prost had won the season-opening race and the Frenchman was the pre-
race favorite for this second event on the circuit. His heated rivalry
with Senna has been heavily publicized.
Damon Hill of Britain finished second in a Williams-Renault and
Germany's Michael Schumacher was third in a Benetton-Ford.
``It was fantastic,'' Senna said after his 37th career victory
touched off wild cheering from his home fans.
Senna, the world champion in 1988, '90 and '91 took the lead on lap
41 and held off the challenge from Hill, despite having a problem with
the instrument panel on his McLaren.
``I saw that Hill slowed his pace and I could use my advantage,''
Senna said. ``But I thought there was an electronic problem with the
panel that showed an excess of oil pressure, that made me think I would
lose the motor and the gear shift. I made the last six laps praying.''
Senna was mobbed by fans after he crossed the finish line and he was
forced to complete his lap of honor in a ``safety'' car.
``I could not believe it when I turned off the engine and I saw I was
in the middle of a sea of people wanting to touch me,'' he said. ``I
even received some blows, but if I have to go through that in every
race, then I am ready.''
The crucial section of the race came when torrential rain began
falling in the 20th lap, flooding parts of the track and forcing drivers
to slow down and reconsider strategies.
Senna was the first driver to change to wet weather tires in the 26th
lap, when he was in third place and the rain was at its hardest.
Inexplicably, Prost, who was leading the field, did not change tires as
the storm worsened and gave up his leading spot to Hill.
Seconds later, Prost lost control of his Williams-Renault on the
first curve of the 28th lap and the Frenchman slammed into Brazilian
driver Christian Fittipaldi, driving a Minardi-Ford. Both drivers were
forced to abandon the race.
``I drove over something that was on the water-filled track and I
lost control,'' said Prost, who won two weeks ago in Kyalami, South
Africa, and has won the Brazilian Grand Prix six times. ``There was a
serious lack of coordination in the garage to see who was going to
change his tires first, Hill or me. But I thought I could make another
lap with the tires for dry track.''
With the rain continuing to belt down and with several crashed cars
disrupting the race, the pace car was forced to lead the competitors for
seven laps until the 37th, when the race began again with Hill in the
lead, ahead of Senna and Johnny Herbert of Britain in a Lotus.
When the rain stopped, Senna pulled into the pit to change tires in
the 40th lap, one lap before Hill.
Hill, whose tires had not reached the right temperature, could not
keep ahead of Senna and the Brazilian took the lead for good on the 41st
lap.
A crash on the opening lap between Michael Andretti of the United
States in the second McLaren-Ford and Austrian Gerhard Berger in a
Ferrari signalled an early exit for both drivers. Andretti was flown to
a local hospital, but doctors said he was unharmed.
Senna moves to the top of the world championship standings with 16
points, six points ahead of Prost.
The next race of the season is at Donington, England, April 11.
From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: Brazilian GP results:
Date: 28 Mar 1993 22:33:27 GMT
INTERLAGOS, BRAZIL - RIS - (Courtesy Marlboro Sports Data System)
Official Race Classification for today's Brazilian Grand
Prix FIA Formula One World Championship:
CAR AVERAGE
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR TIME/DIST. SPEED
---- --- ------ ------- ------------- -------
1 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1:51'15.485 165.601 km/h
2 0 HILL WIL/REN 16.625 165.190
3 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 45.436 164.482
4 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 46.557 164.455
5 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 52.127 164.318
6 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1 LAP 162.818
7 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM PS 160.116
10 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 2 LAPS 159.937
11 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 3 LAPS 158.374
12 22 BADOER BMS/FER 3 LAPS 157.637
RET 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM ON LAP 62 156.838
RET 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM ON LAP 53 156.862
RET 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM ON LAP 49 151.196
RET 2 PROST WIL/REN ON LAP 30 183.699
RET 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO ON LAP 29 177.598
RET 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG ON LAP 28 173.808
RET 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM ON LAP 27 166.134
RET 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA ON LAP 14 177.920
RET 6 PATRESE BEN/FO ON LAP 4 115.437
RET 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO ON LAP 1 .000
RET 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO ON LAP 1 .000
RET 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN ON LAP 1 .000
RET 28 BERGER FER ON LAP 1 .000
Best Laps
-----------------------------
CAR BEST LAP AVERAGE
NO. DRIVER CAR TIME LAP SPEED
--- ------ --- --------- --- -------
5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'20.024 61 194.567 km/h
8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'20.187 59 194.171
0 HILL WIL/REN 1'20.794 53 192.712
26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'21.235 56 191.666
2 PROST WIL/REN 1'21.780 24 190.389
27 ALESI FER 1'22.019 58 189.834
1993 World Championship Standings
------------------------------------------------------------
1993 DRIVERS' WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP STANDING
------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION
POS. DRIVER PTS W 2 3 4 5 6 GP
---- ------ ----- ---------------- --
1 SENNA (BRA) 16.00 1 1 - - - - 2
2 PROST (FRA) 10.00 1 - - - - - 2
3 D.HILL (GB) 6.00 - 1 - - - - 2
4 BLUNDELL (GB) 6.00 - - 1 - 1 - 2
5 SCHUMACHER (GER) 4.00 - - 1 - - - 2
6 C.FITTIPALDI (BRA) 3.00 - - - 1 - - 2
HERBERT (GB) 3.00 - - - 1 - - 2
8 LEHTO (FIN) 2.00 - - - - 1 - 2
9 G.BERGER (AUT) 1.00 - - - - - 1 2
ZANARDI (ITA) 1.00 - - - - - 1 2
11 ALBORETO (ITA) .00 - - - - - - 2
ALESI (FRA) .00 - - - - - - 2
ALLIOT (FRA) .00 - - - - - - 2
(GB) .00 - - - - - - 2
COMAS (FRA) .00 - - - - - - 2
DE CESARIS (ITA) .00 - - - - - - 2
KATAYAMA (JAP) .00 - - - - - - 2
PATRESE (ITA) .00 - - - - - - 2
SUZUKI (JAP) .00 - - - - - - 2
WARWICK (GB) .00 - - - - - - 2
WENDLINGER (AUT) .00 - - - - - - 2
BARRICHELLO (BRA) .00 - - - - - - 2
BADOER (ITA) .00 - - - - - - 2
M.ANDRETTI (USA) .00 - - - - - - 2
CAPELLI (ITA) .00 - - - - - - 1
-------------------------------------------------------------
1993 CONSTRUCTOR'S WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP STANDING
-------------------------------------------------------------
POSITION
POS. CONSTRUCTOR PTS W 2 3 4 5 6
---- ----------- ----- ---------------------
1 MARLBORO MCLAREN 16.00 1 1 - - - -
WILLIAMS 16.00 1 1 - - - -
3 LIGIER 6.00 - - 1 - 1 -
4 BENETTON 4.00 - - 1 - - -
5 LOTUS 4.00 - - - 1 - 1
6 MINARDI 3.00 - - - 1 - -
7 SAUBER 2.00 - - - - 1 -
8 FERRARI 1.00 - - - - - 1
9 LOLA BMS .00 - - - - - -
FOOTWORK .00 - - - - - -
JORDAN .00 - - - - - -
LARROUSSE .00 - - - - - -
TYRRELL .00 - - - - - -
|
| 24.49 | Senna fastest in wet Friday morning practice | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Fri Apr 09 1993 15:48 | 123 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: Friday morning F1 practice times & results...
Date: 9 Apr 1993 17:06:53 GMT
DONINGTON, ENGLAND - RIS - (Courtesy of Marlboro Sports Data
System) - Friday morning report from the European Grand Prix
FIA Formula One World Championship at Donington Park.
AVERAGE
CAR BEST LAP SPEED
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR DESCRIPTION TIME LAP km/h
---- --- ------ --------------- --------- --- -------
1 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'26.774 21 166.903
2 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'28.329 20 163.964
3 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'28.556 19 163.544
4 28 BERGER FER 1'28.572 15 163.514
5 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'28.829 16 163.041
6 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'29.213 20 162.340
7 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'29.294 18 162.192
8 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'29.484 13 161.848
9 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'30.085 17 160.768
10 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'30.242 21 160.488
11 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'30.642 22 159.780
12 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'31.467 16 158.339
13 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 1'31.544 14 158.206
14 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'31.669 13 157.990
15 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'32.286 15 156.934
16 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'32.466 21 156.628
17 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'32.714 12 156.209
18 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'33.466 5 154.953
19 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 1'33.496 14 154.903
20 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 1'33.745 18 154.491
21 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'34.044 20 154.000
22 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'34.405 8 153.411
23 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'34.575 13 153.136
24 27 ALESI FER 1'34.763 3 152.832
25 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'40.835 4 143.629
26 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'40.960 3 143.451
Free Practice #1 Maximum Speeds
CAR TOP SPEED TOP SPEED
NO. DRIVER CAR DESCRIPTION KM/H MPH
--- ------ --------------- --------- ---------
2 PROST WIL/REN 275.450 171.157
30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 270.200 167.895
23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 268.450 166.807
0 HILL WIL/REN 267.990 166.521
9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 267.390 166.148
28 BERGER FER 266.730 165.738
29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 266.330 165.490
25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 266.200 165.409
14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 265.670 165.080
7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 264.700 164.477
22 BADOER BMS/FER 264.500 164.353
8 SENNA MCL/FO 264.240 164.191
20 COMAS LAR/LAM 263.850 163.949
6 PATRESE BEN/FO 263.790 163.912
21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 263.720 163.868
15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 263.600 163.793
24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 262.120 162.874
12 HERBERT LOT/FO 261.740 162.638
10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 261.610 162.557
27 ALESI FER 260.920 162.128
11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 260.350 161.774
5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 260.160 161.656
4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 257.790 160.183
3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 256.930 159.649
26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 256.750 159.537
19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 256.630 159.463
Morning Marlboro News Service
Senna stars in the wet.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ayrton Senna showed once again that he is just as fast in the
wet as his on a dry circuit when he mastered the treacherous
conditions of this morning's wet free practice session to set the
fastest time for Marlboro-McLaren almost two seconds faster than
his closest rival. Michael Andretti set the fifth fastest time,
Michael having to learn the circuit after his chance yesterday
was spoiled by a fuel pressure problem after just two laps.
Schumacher second for Benetton.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Michael Schumacher survived a spin in the slippery conditions to
take the second fastest time for Benetton driving the new
Benetton-Ford B193B for the first time . Riccardo Patrese was
11th fastest, the Italian concentrating on trying different
setups with the new car.
Prost not happy with the wet.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quickest in the special practice session on Thursday, Prost did
not better third fastest on the rain-soaked track to-day, the
Frenchman making no secret of the fact that he wasn't happy here
in the wet. Damon Hill only managed 5 laps of practice before he
came to a halt with a dead engine.
Berger brave in the Ferrari.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gerhard Berger took advantage of the wet conditions to make up
for what Alesi did in his only four laps and was well behind, the
Frenchman suffering from the flu and not his usual exciting self
in the wet conditions in which he normally excels.
Warwick hopeful for new Footwork.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Derek Warwick's first official practice in the new Footwork
Honda 014 saw him place an encouraging 6th fastest this morning,
the Englishman encouraged by his trouble free session and that of
his team-mate Aguri Suzuki.
In brief... Besides the many spins, there were several that
ended up in the wall, the Lotus team badly damaging two cars when
both Zanardi and Herbert went off, the team hoping to repair one
for the qualifying session. Andrea DeCesaris also badly damaged
his Tyrrell after he crashed heavily. Thierry Boutsen, the new
replacement for Ivan Capelli with the Jordan team had to cut his
practice short when he spun and stalled as did Philippe Alliot in
the Larrousse who spun even earlier in the session. Ukyo Katayama
had a lucky escape when he spun off and missed the wall as did
Michele Alboreto at the same spot.
|
| 24.50 | Senna on provisional pole in the rain | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Fri Apr 09 1993 15:49 | 187 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: Friday afternoon F1 practice times & results...
Date: 9 Apr 1993 17:09:14 GMT
DONINGTON, ENGLAND - RIS - (Courtesy of Marlboro Sports Data
System) - Friday afternoon report from the European Grand Prix
FIA Formula One World Championship at Donington Park.
AVERAGE
CAR BEST LAP SPEED
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR DESCRIPTION TIME LAP km/h
---- --- ------ --------------- --------- --- -------
1 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'23.976 10 172.464
2 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'24.014 11 172.386
3 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'24.467 6 171.461
4 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'25.469 6 169.451
5 27 ALESI FER 1'25.699 11 168.996
6 28 BERGER FER 1'25.971 11 168.461
7 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'26.264 10 167.889
8 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'26.557 11 167.321
9 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'26.788 5 166.876
10 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'26.805 11 166.843
11 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'26.859 10 166.739
12 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'27.173 6 166.139
13 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'27.273 9 165.948
14 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 1'27.275 5 165.944
15 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'27.302 7 165.893
16 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'28.065 5 164.456
17 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'28.096 10 164.398
18 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'28.648 11 163.374
19 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 1'28.701 10 163.277
20 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'28.782 11 163.128
21 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'29.177 4 162.405
22 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'29.310 5 162.163
23 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'29.851 4 161.187
24 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 1'30.049 8 160.832
25 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'30.107 11 160.729
26 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'31.178 5 158.841
Qualifying Session #1 Maximum Speeds
CAR TOP SPEED TOP SPEED
NO. DRIVER CAR DESCRIPTION KM/H MPH
--- ------ --------------- --------- ---------
2 PROST WIL/REN 277.220 172.257
30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 275.240 171.026
0 HILL WIL/REN 274.470 170.548
27 ALESI FER 272.530 169.342
29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 271.700 168.827
25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 271.290 168.572
15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 270.270 167.938
22 BADOER BMS/FER 270.140 167.857
26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 269.800 167.646
8 SENNA MCL/FO 269.390 167.391
14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 269.060 167.186
23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 268.990 167.143
24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 268.990 167.143
28 BERGER FER 268.650 166.931
9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 268.050 166.559
21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 267.260 166.068
19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 266.990 165.900
20 COMAS LAR/LAM 266.590 165.651
12 HERBERT LOT/FO 266.200 165.409
7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 266.130 165.366
10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 265.220 164.800
6 PATRESE BEN/FO 264.440 164.315
11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 263.850 163.949
5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 261.870 162.718
4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 261.550 162.520
3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 259.030 160.954
Afternoon Marlboro News Service
Senna takes the overnight pole.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Once again Ayrton Senna made the most of the tricky changing wet
conditions in the first qualifying session to claim the overnight
pole for Marlboro-McLaren despite stopping out on the track on
his final lap with hydraulic pressure failure. Michael Andretti,
watched in this final session by his father Mario, placed 11th
fastest. "I was fastest at the start of the session and then came
into the pits just at the point the track was at its best. By the
time I got out again the rain was worse . Even so, I was on a
good final lap but I got held up by another car and I had used up
all my laps," explained Michael.
Hill shares the provisional front row with Senna.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Damon Hill was delighted to have set the second fastest time of
the session for the Williams-Renault team, " If it rains tomorrow
I could stay on the front row and that would give me a chance of
beating Senna into the first corner," said Hill. "Although the
conditions were better on my first run, I was less inhibited
knowing that I had almost used all my maximum 12 laps on the
second run and that's when I set my best time," he added. Alain
Prost hoped for better conditions at the end and missed the start
of the session and what was to be the best time period. When he
did try for a fast lap his run was spoiled by Andrea DeCesaris in
the Tyrrell and he ended up third fastest.
Lehto shares row two with Williams.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
J.J.Lehto was at home in the wet setting a strong fourth fastest
on his best lap with the Sauber, his team-mate Karl Wendlinger
back in 10th place admitting that he just wasn't driving that
well in the tricky conditions.
Ferrari share row three.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jean Alesi and his Ferrari team-mate Gerhard Berger were sharing
the third row at the end of the first qualifying session even
though neither driver was too happy with his car. Alesi, still
not on form with a head cold and flu, said his car was not
handling as well as he liked, while Berger claimed that the
active suspension on his Ferrari was not working well.
In brief... Michael Schumacher crashed his new Benetton B193B in
the early laps and set seventh fastest time with Patrese's car at
the end, while both drivers complained that they were at a
disadvantage without a traction control system on the new car.
Martin Brundle drove into the back of Luca Badoer putting them
both out for the rest of the session. Boutsen used a manual
gearbox on his Jordan because of the team's problems with the
semi-automatic system. Comas spun and stalled in the gravel,
while Brundle had managed to drive out after an earlier spin.
Some Team Quotes
Marlboro McLaren
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Marlboro McLaren's of Ayrton Senna and Michael Andretti have
set respectively the fastest and the eleventh time on the first
afternoon of qualifying for the European Grand Prix at Donington
Park. Ayrton was driving MP4/8-3, Michael MP4/8-5 and the spare
is 2.
Ayrton Senna: "On the last lap I stopped because of a drop in
hydraulic pressure. So I thought it best to stop. It's the first
time we are trying the car in the wet with the right tyres. In
the afternoon we pushed harder, yet we saw the Williams get
really close; in the morning session, when power was less
important as it was wetter, the time differential, in our favour,
was bigger. We have the best possible result."
Michael Andretti: "I had a lot of problems with traffic: in fact
I barely had a clean lap in the whole session. Early on I had the
fastest time, but then the surface dried out. I tried again, but
that was when the traffic got really bad. I'd slow down, then I'd
go for another fast one, but there were just too many cars on
track."
Mark Parish (Cosworth): "No problems to report. We'll change
Michael's engine tonight, as it's out of life."
Ron Dennis: "Today was a lottery: Ayrton's time was done in one
clean run, and there was obviously a risk that it was going to
dry out at the end of the session. Still, ours was a reasonable
gamble and it paid off. Michael's time is just a reflection of
the frustration of traffic. Tomorrow it will probably be a dryer
day and a better one for Michael too."
Scuderia Ferrari
Technical Report Fifth place for Jean Alesi and sixth for
Gerhard Berger after the first day of qualifying for the Grand
Prix of Europe. Both drivers set their best time at their second
attempt and both suffered problems. Alesi is able to do in this
morning's adverse conditions. Berger was affected by problems
with his active suspension.
Harvey Postlethwaite: "Despite everything I feel that today's
times reflect Ferrari's true potential at the moment. We are
making progress but we still need a few grands prix to stabilise
this improvement."
Jean Alesi: "I did not feel well and this affected my driving. I
had difficulty breathing and I felt sick. The car went quite well
in the wet and if I feel better tomorrow, I am sure I can improve
tomorrow."
Gerhard Berger: "Both my runs went badly. Not just because the
failure of the active suspension made the car difficult to drive,
but also because on my second attempt, when I set my time, the
rain came down even harder than before. Yet again I have been
unable to get through a qualifying session without problems."
|
| 24.51 | Prost fastest in dry Saturday morning practice | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Apr 10 1993 11:49 | 36 |
| From: [email protected]
Subject: F1: Saturday Morning Free Practice Times
Date: 10 Apr 93 14:54:00 WET
European Grand Prix - Donnington Park
Saturday Morning Free Practice
1 Alain Prost Fr Williams 1:10.716
2 Damon Hill GB Williams 1:11.175
3 Ayrton Senna Brz McLaren 1:11.552
4 Michael Schumacher Ger Benetton 1:12.547
5 JJ Lehto Fin Sauber 1:12.744
6 Johnny Herbert GB Lotus 1:13.011
7 Michael Andretti US McLaren 1:13.094
8 Philippe Alliott Fr Larrousse 1:13.209
9 Derek Warwick GB Footwork 1:13.222
10 Jean Alesi Fr Ferrari 1:13.485
11 Alessandro Zanardi It Lotus 1:13.515
12 Ricardo Patrese It benetton 1:13.516
13 Gerhard Berger Aut Ferrari 1:13.644
14 Rubens Barrichello Brz Jordan 1:13.766
15 Christian Fittipaldi Brz Minardi 1:13.791
16 Ukyo Katayama Jap Tyrrell 1:14.010
17 Eric Comas Fr Larrousse 1:14.066
18 Mark Blundell GB Ligier 1:14.158
19 Fabrizio Barbazza It Minardi 1:14.204
20 Martin Brundle GB Ligier 1:14:242
21 Thierry Boutsen Bel Jordan 1:15.006
22 Aguri Suzuki Jap Footwork 1:15.327
23 Andre De Cesaris It Tyrrell 1:15.423
24 Luca Badoer It Lola 1:15.702
25 Michele Alboreto It Lola 1:15.832
26 Karl Wendlinger Aut Sauber 1:16.939
Bright sunshine and dry track.
|
| 24.52 | Prost on pole | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Apr 10 1993 11:49 | 42 |
| The times for places 3 & 4 appear out of whack...I'd assume the placing is
correct. -- M.D.
From: [email protected]
Subject: F1: Final Qualifying Times, Saturday
Date: 10 Apr 93 14:55:41 WET
European Grand Prix - Donnington Park
Saturday Afternoon - Final Qualifying
1 Alain Prost Fr Williams 1:10.458
2 Damon Hill GB Williams 1:10.762
3 Michael Schumacher Ger Benetton 1:12.208
4 Ayrton Senna Brz McLaren 1:12.107
5 Karl Wendlinger Aut Sauber 1:12.738
6 Michael Andretti US McLaren 1:12.739
7 JJ Lehto Fin Sauber 1:12.763
8 Gerhard Berger Aut Ferrari 1:12.862
9 Jean Alesi Fr Ferrari 1:12.980
10 Ricardo Patrese It benetton 1:12.982
11 Johnny Herbert GB Lotus 1:13.328
12 Rubens Barrichello Brz Jordan 1:13.514
13 Alessandro Zanardi It Lotus 1:13.560
14 Derek Warwick GB Footwork 1:13.664
15 Philippe Alliott Fr Larrousse 1:13.665
16 Christian Fittipaldi Brz Minardi 1:13.666
17 Eric Comas Fr Larrousse 1:13.970
17 Ukyo Katayama Jap Tyrrell 1:14.121
19 Thierry Boutsen Bel Jordan 1:14.246
20 Fabrizio Barbazza It Minardi 1:14.274
21 Mark Blundell GB Ligier 1:14.301
22 Martin Brundle GB Ligier 1:14:306
23 Aguri Suzuki Jap Footwork 1:14.927
24 Michele Alboreto It Lola 1:15.322
25 Andre De Cesaris It Tyrrell 1:15.417
Non-qualifier
26 Luca Badoer It Lola 1:15.641
Bright sunshine and dry track.
|
| 24.53 | GP on a Tuesday? | TKOVOA::THOMPSON | Roger Thompson coming to you from Tokyo | Mon Apr 12 1993 10:52 | 10 |
| re: .20 (ESPN F1 schedule)
Is the German GP on May 25 (Tuesday?), or it that a typo?
Mi Andretti can't seem to complete a lap after three races. Anyone
heard if he is going to run at Indy like his father did while he
raced F1? There is no F1 race scheduled for May 30th!
Anyone speculating on a rookie winner at Indy this year!?
|
| 24.54 | | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Mon Apr 12 1993 12:47 | 26 |
| Re: Note 931.53 by TKOVOA::THOMPSON
> Is the German GP on May 25 (Tuesday?), or it that a typo?
Typo...the German Gran Prix is on July 25. The GP closest to May 25 is
Monaco on May 23.
> Mi Andretti can't seem to complete a lap after three races. Anyone
> heard if he is going to run at Indy like his father did while he
> raced F1? There is no F1 race scheduled for May 30th!
But practice and qualifying are very time-consuming at Indy. Michael has
said he is not running Indy this year, but assuming he has a future in F1,
will try to run it in the years to come.
> Anyone speculating on a rookie winner at Indy this year!?
Wouldn't surprise me a bit. Mansell has the car, and a teammate who
despite his extraordinary bad luck at the Brickyard, definitely knows his
was around the place. If he can run a cautious second to Mario, he'll
cruise home to victory when the inevitable lap-190 Andretti blow-up occurs.
From what I've read elsewhere, the repaving of Indy has made the place a
_bunch_ more difficult to drive at. Let's hope it's a better month of May
this year than last.
Mike
|
| 24.55 | rumble strips | CRASHR::JILLY | COSROCS -- In Thrust We Trust | Mon Apr 12 1993 15:19 | 10 |
| >From what I've read elsewhere, the repaving of Indy has made the place a
>_bunch_ more difficult to drive at. Let's hope it's a better month of May
>this year than last.
Haven't they taken away the area below the white line that marked the
turns? I thought they put in rumble strips to discourage :*) cars from
going down that low. I always thought that it was strange to see cars
*entirely* under the line.
Jilly
|
| 24.56 | Friday San Marino practice | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 00:12 | 119 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP Friday morning practice results
Date: 24 Apr 1993 09:57:17 GMT
IMOLA, ITALY - (Courtesy of Marlboro Sports Data System) - Friday
morning report from the San Marino Grand Prix:
Free Practice #1 Results
AVERAGE
CAR BEST LAP SPEED
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR TIME LAP km/h
---- --- ------ --- --------- --- -------
1 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'23.604 22 217.023
2 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'24.725 23 214.152
3 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'25.251 11 212.830
4 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'2.603 23 211.955
5 28 BERGER FER 1'25.665 20 211.802
6 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'25.948 20 211.104
7 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'25.981 17 211.023
8 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'26.298 1 210.248
9 27 ALESI FER 1'26.335 5 210.158
10 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'26.384 16 210.039
11 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'2.578 10 209.568
12 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'26.595 16 209.527
13 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'26.953 23 208.664
14 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 1'27.000 23 208.552
15 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'27.074 22 208.374
16 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'27.203 21 208.066
17 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'27.204 16 208.064
18 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'27.259 22 207.933
19 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'27.283 18 207.876
20 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 1'27.312 21 207.806
21 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'27.328 23 207.768
22 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'27.339 13 207.742
23 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'27.418 16 207.555
24 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'27.442 23 207.498
25 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 128.64 23 204.693
26 2 PROST WIL/REN 7'11.005 2 42.097
Free Practice #1 Maximum Speeds
CAR TOP SPEED TOP SPEED
NO. DRIVER CAR KM/H MPH
--- ------ --- --------- ---------
26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 324.900 201.884
0 HILL WIL/REN 322.470 200.374
25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 319.790 198.708
11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 316.680 196.776
12 HERBERT LOT/FO 316.680 196.776
4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 315.850 196.260
24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 315.850 196.260
15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 315.290 195.912
19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 315.200 195.856
5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 313.820 194.999
28 BERGER FER 313.550 194.831
9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 311.640 193.644
8 SENNA CL/FO 311.100 193.309
3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 311.010 193.253
20 COMAS LAR/LAM 310.830 193.141
30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 310.830 193.141
7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 310.650 193.029
21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 310.470 192.917
6 PATRESE BEN/FO 309.670 192.420
10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 309.490 192.308
27 ALESI FER 309.400 192.252
22 BADOER BMS/FER 309.040 192.029
29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 307.90 191.314
14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 306.060 190.177
23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 305.280 189.692
2 PROST WIL/REN 183.940 114.295
Morning Marlboro News Service
Hill sets the pace after Prost crashes.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Damon Hill set the pace in the opening practice session for Sunday's San
Marino Grand Prix, the Williams-Renault number two driver setting the fastest
time after his team-mate Alain Prost was rammed from behind by Jean Alesi in
the Ferrari after just two laps. With the faster sweeping curves of the Imola
circuit the Williams team once again look to be in the strongest position.
Schumacher second by a second.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Michael Schumacher set the second fastest time of the session in the new
Benetton-Ford B193B, the German running all of his maximum 23 laps before
ending a just over a second off Hill's best time. Riccardo Patrese was
seventh fastest in the second Benetton-Ford, still not happy with his car.
Senna third after going off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Despite the fact that Ayrton Senna's practice ended after 11 laps when he
went of the road damaging the rear right corner of his Marlboro-McLaren-Ford,
the Brazilian took the third fastest time. He only arrived at the circuit a
few minutes before the start of practice, Senna keeping everyone guessing
about whether he was to race after arriving from Rome airport on Thursday.
Michael Andretti was well back in 19th place in the second Marlboro-McLaren
after a minor off which caused the engine to overheat.
Sauber still well up.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Karl Wendlinger continues to show well for the fledgling Sauber team, the
Austrian setting fourth fastest time on his 23rd lap, his team-mate J.J.Lehto
managing only 20 laps before taking tenth place, the Finn bothered by his
car's brake balance.
Berger heads Ferrari hopes.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gerhard Berger headed the tifosi charts with a strong fifth place, despite
brake and clutch problems which prevented a quick run. Jean Alesi still
managed ninth spot despite running only 5 laps before his incident with Prost.
Impressive showing from Ligier.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark Blundell set an impressive sixth fastest time with the Ligier Renault
this morning, the Englishman hoping he can hold that for qualifying. Martin
Brundle couldn't better 22nd time however, unhappy with the set-up despite
some 22 laps on the track.
Warwick spun off into the sand trap in the Footwork.
|
| 24.57 | Friday San Marino qualifying -- Hill on provisional pole | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 00:16 | 127 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP Friday afternoon practice results
Date: 24 Apr 1993 10:00:12 GMT
IMOLA, ITALY - (Courtesy of Marlboro Sports Data System) - Friday
afternoon report from the San Marino Grand Prix:
Qualifying Session #1 Results
AVERAGE
CAR BEST LAP SPEED
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR TIME LAP km/h
---- --- ------ --- --------- --- -------
1 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'22.540 11 219.821
2 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'22.788 11 219.162
3 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'23.988 7 216.031
4 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'24.042 6 215.892
5 28 BERGER FER 1'24.822 10 213.907
6 27 ALESI FER 1'24.906 7 213.695
7 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'24.916 10 213.670
8 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'25.405 11 212.447
9 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'25.482 10 212.255
10 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'25.742 5 211.612
11 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'25.789 12 211.496
12 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'25.941 8 211.122
13 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'25.971 11 211.048
14 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'26.142 12 210.629
15 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'26.181 11 210.534
16 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'26.465 5 209.842
17 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'26.707 9 209.256
18 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 1'26.810 9 209.008
19 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'26.947 8 208.679
20 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'27.312 6 207.806
21 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'27.371 11 207.666
22 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'27.569 6 207.197
23 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'27.753 11 206.762
24 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 1'27.801 11 206.649
25 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 1'28.032 8 206.107
Qualifying Session #1 Maximum Speeds
CAR TOP SPEED TOP SPEED
NO. DRIVER CAR KM/H MPH
--- ------ --- --------- ---------
0 HILL WIL/REN 327.070 203.232
2 PROST WIL/REN 323.630 201.094
25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 322.280 200.256
26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 319.120 198.292
28 BERGER FER 319.120 198.292
9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 318.460 197.882
11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 317.520 197.298
15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 317.330 197.180
27 ALESI FER 317.050 197.006
19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 316.870 196.894
20 COMAS LAR/LAM 316.870 196.894
14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 316.030 196.372
12 HERBERT LOT/FO 313.450 194.769
3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 311.820 193.756
6 PATRESE BEN/FO 311.550 193.588
30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 311.190 193.365
8 SENNA MCL/FO 311.100 193.309
10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 311.010 193.253
29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 310.830 193.141
21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 310.650 193.029
22 BADOER BMS/FER 309.840 192.526
5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 308.070 191.426
4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 307.980 191.370
24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 307.980 191.370
23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 307.540 191.097
Afternoon Marlboro News Service
Hill continues to lead Williams assault.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
After setting the fastest time in the morning session, Britain's Damon Hill
continued to head the time sheets at the end of the first qualifying session
taking the provisional pole two-tenth's of a second inside his team-mate
Alain Prost's time. Prost only got two laps practice in the morning after
being rear-ended by Jean Alesi and had not sorted his car out as well as he
wanted.
Schumacher holds third spot for Benetton.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Michael Schumacher continued to show good speed with the Benetton-Ford, the
German third fastest 1.4 seconds behind Hill, his teammate Patrese still not
happy with his car back in seventh place again.
Senna still fourth, Andretti crashes.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It wasn't a good qualifying session for the Marlboro-McLaren team, Ayrton
Senna salvaging fourth place after a spin in the final corner on his quick
lap. Michael Andretti spun at the same point at the start of the session but
hit the pit wall, which Senna narrowly missed, thus causing a red flag. The
damaged rear suspension was repaired and he got going again but did not set a
time because of gearbox troubles.
Ferrari claim provisional third row.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gerhard Berger continued to head the Ferrari times claiming a provisional
fifth place on the grid from his team-mate Jean Alesi, who was sixth, one
tenth slower.
Blundell stays in top 10.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark Blundell continued to go well in qualifying despite slipping back to
eighth fastest, his team-mate Martin Brundle improving considerably to 15th
spot, but still over half a second behind.
Alliot up to ninth.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Philippe Alliot moved up to ninth place in the Larrousse Lamborghini
following a spin in the morning session. Eric Comas was unable to better 19th
spot in the second Larrousse.
Sauber back on row 6.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A disappointing session for the two Sauber men, Wendlinger slipping well
back to 11th place just ahead of his team-mate J.J Lehto filling the
provisional 6th row of the grid.
In brief...Johnny Herbert continued to run well in the Lotus-Ford with tenth
time, Zanardi,16th, having trouble with his car's active suspension system.
Minardi were disappointed with 23rd and 25th positions at their home circuit,
both drivers complaining of bad handling over the bumps. Derek Warwick
improved to 13th place with the new Footwork after his morning "off" into the
sand. Suzuki was 17th fastest in the other Footwork. BBC Ceefax reported
today that Schumacher's Friday Qualifying Time was not recognized because he
had used the wrong sort of tyres.
|
| 24.58 | Friday San Marino notes... | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 00:29 | 149 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP Friday team quotes
Date: 24 Apr 1993 10:03:42 GMT
IMOLA, ITALY - (Courtesy of Marlboro Sports Data System) - Selected Team
Quotes following the first Qualifying Session for the San Marino Grand Prix:
Canon Williams
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Damon Hill and Alain Prost were first and second quickest round the Imola
track today. Damon's best time was 1min 22.504secs and Alain's was 1min
22.788secs. Alain didn't do any testing in the morning free practice as he
collided with the Ferrari of Jean Alesi on his first flying lap and his car
was out on the track for the rest of the hour and a half.
Damon Hill: "I had my first proper test with Williams here and it is a track
I really like. This is a step up for me being at the top, but I am not
overestimating this as Alain didn't get any running this morning so he has
done a great job to come within two tenths. I would expect the times to come
down a little bit tomorrow, but not a massive amount, however, there wouldn't
have been much more to come today the way the car is."
Alain Prost: "I am happy with my performance as I was not able to do any
work this morning. I think I will be able to improve tomorrow and now I must
get to work on the car with my technicians and mechanics. For the set-up of
my car today I mixed Damon's with my own and I am pleased with the outcome."
Renault Sport Information
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bernard Dudot, Technical Director: "Damon's time was very good indeed and we
are very happy with his performance. As Alain couldn't drive his car this
morning he couldn't set it up, so considering this his time was good. The
speed of our cars here, 327kph for Damon compared with 311kph for Senna and
308kph for Schumacher...is very good, especially as the top speed is very
important at Imola."
Marlboro McLaren
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Marlboro McLarens of Ayrton Senna and Michael Andretti had a topsy turvy
day. In the first official practice for Sunday's race, Ayrton finished in
fourth place while Michael was last, in 26th place. Later he was disqualified
for not observing a red light at the weighing area. Our own telemetry showed
Ayrton to have lapped in 1m 23.8, which would have slotted him in third place,
just behind Damon Hill, on provisional pole, and ahead of Michael Schumacher.
Ayrton drove MP4/8-3, Michael MP4/8-4.
Ayrton Senna: "It was a pity I didn't complete the lap: it was my best of
the day. When I touched the curb the car started to lose grip and spin. When
this car touches the curb it really twitches: it really catches you out, as
it did in the morning. Still, you are not really meant to be there in the
first place!"
Michael Andretti: "I got up on the curb on the last bend coming into the
finishing straight. Until then things weren't feeling too bad. Though I'm
still a long way away from where I'd like to be. But I was feeling better and
I was hustling the car."
Mark Parish (Cosworth): "We had an overheating problem with Michael's car
this morning when he picked up some grass in the radiator duct, but we
intervened early to rectify that."
Ron Dennis: "An eventful day with some impressive moments. I was
particularly impressed with the team changing the suspension on Michael's car
in 20 minutes. Unfortunately his earlier accident damaged his gear box and he
was not able to improve on his time. Ayrton's time, as recorded on our
telemetry, does prove that we are up to pace, and that is encouraging. Third
on the grid and rain is the best we can hope for!"
Sasol Jordan
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rubens Barrichello felt that the set-up of his Jordan-Hart N '193 was much
better this afternoon and the improved handling resulted in a lap time just
over a second quicker than this morning. That put him in 14th place on the
provisional grid.
"The car was much better this afternoon. We had a few problems with the
handling this morning but, even though it was still turning in a little too
deep in the low speed corners, it was much better to drive in the qualifying
session. In Imola, because of the long straights, the times are quite close.
It is the kind of track where you have to really commit yourself in all the
corners to make up time and if you make a mistake your lap time can really
suffer. I was fairly happy with my lap, but I think I overdrove a bit. I know
that there is still a bit of time to come if I get the lap totally right
tomorrow."
Thierry Boutsen also had handling problems this morning but the Belgian is
learning more about the car with every lap and improved his time to 1'26.810
this afternoon for 19th place on the provisional grid.
"I am a lot more comfortable in the car now, I can get good feedback from it
and I am learning all the time how it reacts to changes. It was a bit nervous
at the back this morning and still a bit the same this afternoon, but it was
definitely better. I am sure we can find the solution tomorrow."
Footwork Mugen Honda
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Derek Warwick: "I'm a bit disappointed to end up 13th because I thought we
could be in the top 10, and for just .2s less, we could have been. But the
red flag for Andretti's accident came out when I was on my quick lap, but for
that...
"Still, we're about a million miles from the car's potential, and we need to
make some changes for tomorrow. I think we have too much downforce, but
because of the limited number of laps, it's difficult to change too many
things.
"This morning I went off because a grub screw had come out of the brake
adjuster and it wound four turns onto the rear brakes by itself. So when I
got onto the brakes, the rears locked up and I spun."
Aguri Suzuki: "The car was too hard on the bumpy parts this morning, so we
changed the springs between sessions. But then I found that I had too much
understeer during this afternoon's session and couldn't drive as I would have
liked. "Otherwise there were no great problems apart from the red flag which
caused me some confusion and lost me a couple of laps."
Jackie Oliver (Footwork Formula One Team Principal): "Today was quite
encouraging. It's the first time that we've qualified in the dry and been
able to show our performance for the first time. We're still learning about
the car. There's still more time to extract and the times are so close that
it should move Derek up into the top ten and Aguri should move up too. "It's
looking good for the race, and the power gearshift is now working well too,
which is as a result of a great effort by the team."
Mr. Tenji Sakai (Mugen Formula One Team Representative): "We tried our new
fuel mapping for acceleration here this morning and that worked quite well.
We're sixth fastest in a straight line which is encouraging."
A bit more background on the spins of Andretti and Senna...
Andretti went out early in the session, but came straight into the pits at
the end of the lap. He went out again a few minutes later, and was clearly
pushing, and on a quick lap. On the turn onto the start/finish straight (a
sharp right-hander) he appeared to get the power on too soon, and ran wide.
At this point, there's a wide, fairly high kerb. His McLaren straddled the
kerb, lost grip at the rear, and spun through 180 degrees. It then slid
across the track, hitting the pit wall with enough force to dislodge the rear
wing and damage the left rear suspension, pushing the wheel forward into the
bodywork. Andretti was furious, banging his fists on the wheel after the car
came to rest. The session was red-flagged, while his car was removed.
At the end of the session, Senna did exactly the same thing, but appeared to
control the spin slightly better, the rear of the car coming to rest only a
couple of inches from the wall, his skid marks being almost identical to
Michael's. The session was again red-flagged as the McLaren crew wheeled the
car away.
Observations based on Eurosport coverage of the qualifying session.
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| 24.59 | Saturday San Marino practice | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 00:34 | 122 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP saturday morning results
Date: 24 Apr 1993 21:37:29 GMT
IMOLA, ITALY - (From Marlboro Sports Data System) - Saturday morning
report from the San Marino Grand Prix
Free Practice #2 Results
AVERAGE
CAR BEST LAP SPEED
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR TIME LAP km/h
---- --- ------ --- --------- --- -------
1 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'22.524 23 219.863
2 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'22.804 22 219.120
3 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'23.250 16 217.946
4 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'24.313 19 215.198
5 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'25.050 22 213.333
6 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'25.068 23 213.288
7 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'25.343 22 212.601
8 27 ALESI FER 1'25.401 17 212.457
9 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'25.430 20 212.384
10 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'25.442 23 212.355
11 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'25.608 21 211.943
12 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'25.766 22 211.552
13 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'25.907 22 211.205
14 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'26.084 13 210.771
15 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'26.278 17 210.297
16 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'26.413 18 209.968
17 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'26.535 23 209.672
18 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 1'26.630 19 209.442
19 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'26.985 13 208.588
20 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 1'27.045 14 208.444
21 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'27.408 15 207.578
22 28 BERGER FER 1'27.435 4 207.514
23 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 1'27.570 22 207.194
24 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'27.846 15 206.543
25 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'29.311 7 203.155
26 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'29.810 7 202.026
Free Practice #2 Maximum Speeds
CAR TOP SPEED TOP SPEED
NO. DRIVER CAR KM/H MPH
--- ------ --- --------- ---------
0 HILL WIL/REN 324.310 201.517
14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 321.120 199.535
12 HERBERT LOT/FO 320.450 199.118
27 ALESI FER 319.410 198.472
2 PROST WIL/REN 317.050 197.006
5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 317.050 197.006
25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 316.590 196.720
26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 316.590 196.720
9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 315.290 195.912
19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 314.920 195.682
20 COMAS LAR/LAM 314.920 195.682
28 BERGER FER 314.830 195.626
15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 314.640 195.508
10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 313.730 194.943
8 SENNA MCL/FO 312.450 194.147
4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 311.280 193.420
7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 311.010 193.253
21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 311.010 193.253
23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 310.920 193.197
22 BADOER BMS/FER 310.830 193.141
3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 310.200 192.749
30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 310.200 192.749
11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 309.310 192.196
6 PATRESE BEN/FO 309.220 192.140
29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 309.130 192.084
24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 304.930 189.475
Morning Marlboro News Service
Hill still ahead.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Damon Hill continues to head the Williams-Renault assault from his team
leader Alain Prost who once again trailed his young number two in this
morning's free practice. Prost was three-tenths of a second slower than Hill
who improved on his Friday qualifying time, while the two Williams-Renaults
were still comfortably fastest in straight line speed, Hill commenting later
how easy it was to do his best lap.
Senna moves up to third spot.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ayrton Senna moved into third spot behind the Williams this morning, the
Brazilian confident that with a good lap he can take third place on the grid
in the final qualifying session. Michael Andretti completed all his 23 laps
in the second Marlboro- McLaren-Ford to improve to seventh fastest time after
his accident and then subsequent disqualification from Friday's qualifying
for missing the red light for the weigh-in at the start of the pits.
Schumacher looking to keep third for Benetton.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Although Michael Schumacher was unable to better fourth fastest this morning
he hopes to keep third on the grid in the final qualifying session after
complaining that he had not got his car set up exactly to his liking. Ricardo
Patrese ended up at the bottom end of the time sheets when he spun and
crashed going down Aqua Minerale corner causing a 19 minute red flag period.
Wendlinger back in fifth spot.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Slowed by the hot conditions in the first qualifying session, Karl
Wendlinger was back up in fifth spot this morning which he will be hoping
to repeat this afternoon. J.J.Lehto couldn't better 14th this morning
complaining of a bad balance.
Herbert takes a strong sixth.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johnny Herbert had another strong session for his Lotus team running the
sixth fastest time on his 23rd lap, Sandro Zanardi 15th quickest after
another troubled session with second Lotus caused by a misfire and he stopped
early for an engine change.
In brief...Jean Alesi, eighth fastest for Ferrari was half a second off his
Friday best complaining of handling troubles, while Berger in the second
Ferrari was back in 22nd spot after just 9 laps because of an engine failure.
Rubens Barrichello continues to impress in the Jordan, the Brazilian ninth
fastest this morning, Thierry Boutsen, now better installed in his Jordan, is
still learning the car and 1.2 seconds off his team-mate's pace. Comas had
more clutch trouble with his Larrousse while team-mate Alliot spun again and
damaged the suspension. Both Brundle and Katayama lost a lot of time with
water leaks.
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| 24.60 | Saturday San Marino qualifying | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 00:36 | 71 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP Saturday afternoon results
Date: 24 Apr 1993 21:39:26 GMT
IMOLA, ITALY - (From Marlboro Sports Data System) - Saturday afternoon
report from the San Marino Grand Prix (News service and quotes to
follow when available):
Qualifying Session #2 Results
AVERAGE
CAR BEST LAP SPEED
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR TIME LAP km/h
---- --- ------ --- --------- --- -------
1 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'22.070 5 221.080
2 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'22.168 11 220.816
3 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'23.919 6 216.208
4 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'24.007 9 215.982
5 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'24.720 11 214.164
6 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'24.793 5 213.980
7 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'24.804 11 213.952
8 27 ALESI FER 1'24.829 6 213.889
9 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'24.893 3 213.728
10 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'24.896 10 213.720
11 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'25.115 11 213.170
12 28 BERGER FER 1'25.161 3 213.055
13 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'25.169 5 213.035
14 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'25.629 7 211.891
15 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'25.901 12 211.220
16 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'26.279 12 210.295
17 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'26.358 5 210.102
18 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'26.429 9 209.930
19 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 1'26.436 11 209.913
20 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'26.657 4 209.377
21 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'26.900 4 208.792
22 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'27.277 11 207.890
23 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'27.388 10 207.626
24 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 1'27.602 8 207.119
25 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 1'27.771 12 206.720
26 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'35.748 3 189.497
Qualifying Session #2 Maximum Speeds
CAR TOP SPEED TOP SPEED
NO. DRIVER CAR KM/H MPH
--- ------ --- --------- ---------
2 PROST WIL/REN 327.070 203.232
0 HILL WIL/REN 324.120 201.399
14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 321.890 200.013
15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 319.310 198.410
27 ALESI FER 319.310 198.410
28 BERGER FER 319.310 198.410
12 HERBERT LOT/FO 319.220 198.354
19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 317.620 197.360
25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 317.240 197.124
30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 316.590 196.720
20 COMAS LAR/LAM 316.310 196.546
5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 316.120 196.428
26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 316.120 196.428
7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 315.660 196.142
9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 314.740 195.570
22 BADOER BMS/FER 313.730 194.943
8 SENNA MCL/FO 313.640 194.887
3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 312.450 194.147
21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 312.450 194.147
10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 312.000 193.868
4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 311.820 193.756
6 PATRESE BEN/FO 311.100 193.309
11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 310.380 192.861
29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 308.160 191.482
24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 306.400 190.388
23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 305.800 190.015
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| 24.61 | starting grid for the San Marino Gran Prix | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 00:37 | 37 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP Provisional starting grid
Date: 24 Apr 1993 21:40:44 GMT
IMOLA, ITALY - (From Marlboro Sports Data System) - starting
grid for Sunday's San Marino Grand Prix FIA Formula One World Championship
race:
AVERAGE
CAR GRID SPEED
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR TIME S. km/h
---- --- ------ --- --------- -- -------
1 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'22.070 2 221.080
2 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'22.168 2 220.816
3 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'23.919 2 216.208
4 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'24.007 2 215.982
5 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'24.720 2 214.164
6 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'24.793 2 213.980
7 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'24.804 2 213.952
8 28 BERGER FER 1'24.822 1 213.907
9 27 ALESI FER 1'24.829 2 213.889
10 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'24.893 2 213.728
11 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'24.896 2 213.720
12 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'25.115 2 213.170
13 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'25.169 2 213.035
14 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'25.482 1 212.255
15 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'25.901 2 211.220
16 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'25.941 1 211.122
17 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'26.279 2 210.295
18 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'26.429 2 209.930
19 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 1'26.436 2 209.913
20 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'26.465 1 209.842
21 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'26.657 2 209.377
22 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'26.900 2 208.792
23 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'27.277 2 207.890
24 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'27.371 1 207.666
25 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 1'27.602 2 207.119
DNQ 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 1'27.771 2 206.720
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| 24.62 | Saturday San Marino notes | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 00:49 | 319 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP post-qualification Team quotes
Date: 24 Apr 1993 21:48:10 GMT
IMOLA, ITALY - (From Marlboro Sports Data System) - Afternoon Marlboro
News Service, a special steward's decision and selected team quotes (more to
follow as available) from the San Marino Grand Prix:
Alain Prost clinched the 24th pole position of his career by pulling ahead
of team-mate Damon Hill to set fastest qualifying time this afternoon.
Damon's best laps were slightly spoiled when he came up behind Barrichello
and Boutsen on consecutive laps on the ess-bends just before the startline.
The cars ran perfectly apart from a continuing slight problem with clutch
causing an intermittent balking on the downchange.
Schumacher retains third
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Michael Schumacher retained third place on the grid with a slight
improvement on his Friday best. He was happy with the performance of his
B193B, but Ricardo Patrese was left down in 11th, the Italian feeling that
the track conditions were not as good as they had been yesterday.
Senna crashes and improves
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ayrton Senna spun off into the barrier at Acque Minerali, on his first run,
reporting that the active suspension reacts unfavourably when the car slides
over a kerb in low downforce trim. He came back and took over Michael
Andretti's car after the American completed his runs, thereafter improving
his time but remaining fourth in the final line-up. Michael felt he could
have gone perhaps half a second quicker had he not been balked by Barbazza's
Minardi, but was happy to qualify sixth.
Mixed fortunes for Sauber
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Karl Wendlinger did well to qualify his Sauber C12 fifth between the two
McLarens, but then spun off on liquid from his own engine at Acque Minerali.
JJLehto was a disappointed 16th, unhappy with the handling of his car.
Ligier happy with improvement
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark Blundell and Martin Brundle were happy to improve to seventh and tenth
respectively, feeling that they are nicely placed to pick up some
championship points tomorrow.
Briefly: The Ferraris of Gerhard Berger and Jean Alesi slumped to eighth and
ninth in the final line-up. Alesi reported that the handling felt erratic on
his qualifying runs, while Berger stopped before the end when his tyres
started to show signs of degrading...Johnny Herbert was disappointed with his
Lotus' performance while Alessandro Zanardi's newly installed engine cut out
on the circuit. Dereck Warwick ended up kicking himself with frustration when
acute understeer he had experienced during the morning returned with a
vengeance and kept his times down...Aguri Suzuki spun into a sand trap, as
did Andrea de Cesaris's Tyrrell at Tosa...Both Jordan drivers reported slight
gearchange problems...Minardi were unhappy with their aerodynamic set-up for
this high speed circuit
Stewards Decision No. 11
San Marino Grand Prix, Imola,
Saturday, 24 April 1993, 10.50 hrs
STEWARDS DECISION NO. 11
After having received new facts, hearing Mr. Mehl, Competition Director of
Goodyear, The Stewards carried out a supplementary inquiry of evidence and
decided as follows:
1. From this moment onwards, the "E" marked evaluation
tyres can no longer be used.
2. Therefore, any driver can use a maximum of 7 tyre
sets (plus rain tyres without limit).
3. The exclusion of car No. 5 from the results of timed
practice of 23.04.93 is cancelled.
Canon Williams
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For the third time this season there will be a Canon Williams front row of
the grid with Alain Prost on pole and Damon Hill alongside him. Less than a
tenth of a second separates the two Williams-Renaults, with Alain's best time
of 1min 22.070secs on his first run and Damon's of 1min 22.168secs on his
second.
Damon Hill: "I really thought there was an opportunity here and it was a
close thing, but at the end of the day Alain is on pole, I am a little
disappointed, but not too much. On my first run I just had traffic and cars
going off leaving dirt on the track. For my second set I waited until there
was a better chance of less traffic and mostly I got clear runs. I was
satisfied with the qualifying, I was extending myself a bit more and enjoying
it, and it is a fun track to drive on, you get a buzz from driving here."
Alain Prost: "The best way to set up a car is slowly over the weekend and
there are still some things that I would have liked to try but didn't because
of missing yesterday morning. However, to be honest this morning the car was
quite good, even better than I expected. I don't think I am now going to
change a lot of things. This afternoon was okay and I had no problems. On the
second run I didn't use the tyres as I had a yellow flag and I knew from my
radio that Damon had finished."
Renault Sport Information
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bernard Dudot, Technical Director: "It was a good performance from all the
Renault engines, with the Williams-Renaults on the front row and the
Ligier-Renaults also in the top ten. Imola is very much a power circuit, so
this is a satisfying result for the Renault Sport team."
Marlboro McLaren
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Marlboro McLarens of Ayrton Senna and Michael Andretti have qualified
respectively in fourth and sixth place on the grid for tomorrow's San Marino
Grand Prix. Ayrton used his own and Michael's car, doing his best time in
Michael's, following an accident where he ended up against the wall after
climbing on to a curb.
Ayrton Senna: "I had a shunt in my car, of course, by going on to the curb.
Other than that the car was fine. Michael's car was not as well balanced so I
had to adjust it as I went along, but the engine was a little better than
mine. On my last lap I had traffic problems. For tomorrow we need to set
things up properly in the morning, and hope in the weather."
Michael Andretti: "It felt good today and particularly on my last lap but I
had problems in traffic. It would have been nice to have been next to Ayrton
on the grid. Still, I am only half a second slower than him in the same car,
so that's not too bad."
Mark Parish (Cosworth): "We'll change both engines as we normally do before
a race. We had no problems today."
Ron Dennis: "With the level of downforce we're running the car is
understandably a little lacking in grip. Overall though the driver and
chassis performance was very good today. And if it rains we might have a
chance tomorrow...!"
Camel Benetton Ford
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Michael Schumacher: "Naturally, I'm pleased with third place, ahead of
McLaren. I think this is good for the spectators because they like the
prospect of a battle between me and Senna and I enjoy it too! My time this
afternoon came from my first set. Maybe I could have found another couple of
tenths on the second set but I locked up my front brakes a couple of times
and flat-spotted the tyres, so that spoiled my chances. Still, third is not
bad."
Riccardo Patrese: "This morning, I spun off. I went up on a kerb but,
because the bottom of the car grounded on the kerb, the car just spun; there
was nothing I could do. Unfortunately, that meant a lot of work for the
mechanics and they got the job done about 20 minutes after final qualifying
had started. Each time I tried to find a clear lap, there was traffic or
yellow flags or some other problem. Basically, a very frustrating day."
Flavio Briatore: "I'm very happy with Michael's grid position; he's had a
lot of pressure one way or another all weekend and it's good to see him on
the second row. I'd also like to thank Ford for the great performance of
their engine."
Tyrrell
~~~~~~~
Andrea de Cesaris was able to improve by almost a second today and will
start the San Marino Grand Prix from 18th place on the grid, and Ukyo
Katayama, in spite of problems today which lost him most of practice,
improved by half a second but this was not enough to improve his grid
position, so he will start the race in 22nd.
Ukyo Katayama: "This morning I lost most of practice because of a water leak
and so I was not able to work on a better set up for this afternoon. I
couldn't get a good feeling for the car so that I could go much quicker in
qualifying. I also lost half of qualifying because of a gearchange problem.
The team fixed this but it still felt very stiff, and so I was not able to go
much quicker than Friday's time."
Andrea de Cesaris: "The car felt much better today and we did a great job in
spite of not having the more powerful engine. I think if we had had this
engine I could have been at least another second quicker and might have made
the top ten. I'm feeling much more confident and looking forward to the
race."
Rubert Manwaring, Team Manager: "Ukyo has not been able to get much track
time today and so he has done well to improve. The water leak this morning
cost him about 40 minutes, and then in qualifying he had gearchange problems
and went out late. He was under a lot of pressure and did not have enough
time to get into his rhythm. Andrea had no mechanical problems at all, and
was able to improve but then on his second run he lost control under braking
at Tosa and spun off into the gravel trap. Not an easy day for the team but
the drivers have done well to improve and it's just a pity that Ukyo was not
able to improve his grid position with this time."
Takaaki Kimura, Yamaha F1 Project Leader: "Today we had kept our fingers
crossed for good weather and we were lucky! The engines worked reasonably
well today and Andrea improved his time as we had expected. Ukyo had a few
problems in the morning which meant he couldn't do many laps or improve his
settings. We will be replacing both the engines for tomorrow's race."
Footwork Mugen Honda
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Derek Warwick: "We lost the balance of the car in the last run this morning
when we put on new tyres. We had understeer. We tried to balance it out but
we ended up with more. "We didn't really do the time we should have done. I
got frustrated and wasn't driving as well as I should, but having said that,
I don't think the time was in the car as it was. We need to make improvements
to get rid of the understeer."
Aguri Suzuki: "I felt that the car was much better in the morning. We had
developed the understanding of the car and I was happier with it and with my
position with regard to Derek too. But then I made a mistake this afternoon.
On the first run the car wasn't bad, the laps weren't bad either, but I got a
little confused with the traffic. Consequently, I thought I could get down
into the 1m 25s. But then I made a small mistake which had a big effect and I
ended up in a sandtrap. I feel sorry for the team."
Jackie Oliver (Footwork Formula One Team Principal): "We all did a bad job
this afternoon which is a great disappointment. The potential of the car
should give both drivers better grid positions. Let's hope the whole team can
learn from this experience and in the future realize the true potential of
the cars' positions on the grid, which do have a bearing on the race result
on Sunday."
Mr. Tenji Sakai (Mugen Formula One Team Representative): "I'm not sure if
I'm frustrated or disappointed. But at least our new 5B-spec engine has
worked well and in the difficult conditions here, one of its first dry race
meetings on a circuit with a long straight. It seems good."
Team Castrol Lotus
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alessandro Zanardi: "I had a problem with the engine cutting out this
morning and again this afternoon! It was doing it a bit yesterday, and as it
was still misfiring this afternoon after we'd changed all the electronics, we
stopped early so we could change the engine itself. This afternoon I did one
lap, and then the engine cut out completely. It was even worse than this
morning, but at least we know it wasn't the engine at fault!"
Johnny Herbert: "The car felt nicely consistent today. It felt good this
morning, but to be honest I suspected then that I wouldn't be able to go much
quicker this afternoon. That's how it worked out. To be fair, though, I had
only one good lap, because one time I came across Alboreto, and on my other
laps I just kept getting into traffic. That's the way it goes. The good news
is that we have again made progress."
Peter Collins: "Johnny's car was consistent today, but we need a little more
grip and we were slightly down on the straightline speed we had this morning.
But I think we have made further progress today. We are closer to our
immediate opposition."
Sasol Jordan
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rubens Barrichello improved his time by just under a second to qualify in
13th place on the grid but, having been 9th in free practice this morning, he
was disappointed with his qualifying time. Barrichello felt that, but for a
problem with the downchange on his quickest lap, he could have been in the
top ten again this afternoon. He was much happier with the handling of his
car today though and felt that the new trumpets which Brian Hart had fitted
to the engine definitely improved his top-end speed.
"This morning was good. I knew that I was well in my limit, the car was much
better than yesterday and the engine was much better too. I was quite sure I
could get into the top ten this afternoon and I really wanted to because the
team deserved it. My quick lap on my second set of tyres was going really
well then I had a problem with the downshift. I'm not sure whether it was me
or the car, we'll find out when the mechanics have a look at it. Thirteen is
not so bad, but I'm really a bit disappointed. Still, I know the car is good
and we are pretty quick on the straights and that will help us for the race
tomorrow."
Thierry Boutsen spent the morning working with full tanks in race trim and
was happy with the balance of the car. He too felt that the engine
modification gave a definite improvement, but his afternoon was marred by a
gear selection problem, and by traffic. He improved his time today, but
slipped one place down the grid to qualify in 19th position.
"The car was very good on full tanks this morning and the engine was good
too, but this afternoon I had a few problems. First I had heavy traffic every
time I went out and then the car developed a gear selection problem which got
worse as the session went on."
Ligier Gitanes Blondes
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Martin Brundle: "Little by little we are improving the car. The morning
session was interrupted by a problem with one of the water radiators, and
that cost me some time. On the other hand, this afternoon's qualifying
session went well, and we are well placed on the grid for a good result
tomorrow."
Mark Blundell: "This is my best qualifying position ever! I am delighted for
the team that both our cars are in the top ten on the grid, and as the tests
on full tanks this morning were encouraging, I am optimistic for tomorrow."
Sauber
~~~~~~
Karl Wendlinger: "I'm absolutely delighted with my result. We made real
progress with the car this morning, so I knew I had a good chance to improve
my position. On my first run the tyres didn't work properly, then we made a
few minor modifications to the set-up which gave me more grip. The handling
of the car was really good. Unfortunately I couldn't finish the session
because the engine failed when I was on my last flying lap. Anyhow, I'm very
happy, but I know that the race will be very hard for both the car and the
driver. However, with the work we did this morning on full tanks, I expect to
be very competitive, although we are not a hundred percent sure yet about the
tyre situation."
JJ Lehto: "What a frustrating day again. It was just the same as yesterday.
Whatever we changed on the car, the handling was the same all the time. There
was no balance at all, understeer, oversteer and just no grip. We tried
different aerodynamic set-ups, but we went round in circles. On full tanks
the car wasn't too bad, but there was no way to achieve a decent performance
in qualifying."
Peter Sauber, Team Principal: "It's just great to be fifth on the grid! Karl
has made me delighted. After a difficult day yesterday, we proved now that we
are competitive on a high speed circuit. Honestly, I didn't expect a Sauber
car to be in front of the Ferraris on their home track. In addition to this
I'm very pleased that the gap to McLaren and Benetton is very small. To
achieve this without an active suspension, you need a very good car and an
even better driver. Karl was just fantastic this afternoon. On the other side
I know it must be frustrating for JJ who couldn't find the right way, but
there's no reason for him to doubt, for he has proved many times this season
that he is on the same level as Karl."
Mario Illien, Ilmor Engineering: "Towards the end of the session, we had an
engine failure on Karl's car which we have to analyse first. During practice
both drivers were running development engines that will be changed now. We're
going to use our normal specification for the race. Congratulations to Karl
who did an amazing job today."
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| 24.63 | Saturday San Marino press conference with the top 3 qualifiers | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 00:58 | 111 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP Pole winner press conference
Date: 24 Apr 1993 21:50:37 GMT
FISA NEWS SERVICE
Pole winner's press conference
Imola, Saturday, April 24, 1993
1. Alain Prost (Williams-Renault), 1 min 22.070s
2. Damon Hlll (Williams-Renault), 1 min 22.168s
3. Michael Schumacher (Benetton-Ford), 1 min 23.919s
Q. Alain, after the delay yesterday when you only did about 2 laps in the
morning, do you feel that you are back on schedule today?
AP: You are never back on schedule exactly because there are still about 22
laps missing. The best way to set the car up is to go slowly during the
weekend, and have the time to change things and try different things. There
are a lot of things that I would like to try out if I had more time, But to
be honest, this morning, the car on full tanks was quite good. It was even
better than empty. So I don't think I am going to change a lot of things...
just prepare for the race, especially the brakes and wing settings and
tactics.
Q. Damon is getting closer. Is there anything you can do about him?
AP: we have the same car. Damon has done a good job this weekend, and it's
quite normal that he's quite close to me anyway. It would not be normal,
especially on a track like this, if he was one second behind.
Q. Damon, you seemed to be well in the hunt for pole position today. Was that
the way it was meant to work out?
DH: Yeah, I really thought there was an opportunity here, and it was a close
thing. I feel a little disappointed..., but not too much.
Q. Is this your most satisfying qualifying performance?
DH: Yes. It is satisfying [because] I was happy with the way I was driving, I
was extending myself a bit more than ever before, feeling confident and
enjoying it. Imola is a fun track to drive, it has fantastically short
braking and the chicanes are quite fun, too. So I always get a buzz from
driving here, which is helpful...
Q. Have you not had the same feeling at other F1 circuits?
DH: I have to say that at the first two races [with Williams] I was very
cautious. Now I am shedding that lack of confidence and starting to feel a
little more comfortable in a competitive situation at a Grand Prix.
Q. I guess it also makes you feel reasonably confident to see three-times
world champions reversing into the walls, too...
DH: No, it just makes you tell yourself not to do the same, If it can happen
to Ayrton Senna, then we must all be careful ...
Q. How was the car on full tanks?
DH: It was... fairly good. Alain was in better shape this morning but from
one day to another things change quite a lot. The race is always very
unpredictable and on the evidence of yesterday and today it is impossible to
say what is going to happen tomorrow.
Q. If you are behind Alain during the race and you think you are faster than
him is there anything to prevent you passing?
DH: Hmmm, we will have to wait and see (laughs)... Speak to Frank! This is
competition and... we are both ultimately responsible to the team as to what
they say is the best thing to happen. But as yet there are no indications of
any team orders.
Q. Michael, was the track slower than it was yesterday?
MS: In the end we did exactly the same lap time as yesterday, so I can't
really say the track was slower today. Sure we improved the car a bit, but
with the first set of tyres I nearly went off in turn 8 on what should have
been my quickest lap, and I lost a couple of tenths. On the second set, as
you probably saw, I locked up the front right wheel. After that I had so much
vibration and understeer that I couldn't finish the lap properly. I was also
on a quick lap then and I could have improved. But it didn't work.
Q. Is the car at its best today?
MS: Yes, the car is really fantastic. This is the first weekend I have done a
race meeting on full tanks, and I was quite happy with the car. As I said at
Donington, we had quite a lot of problems setting up the car for certain
circumstances and I think we fixed a bit of this. We haven't fixed it 100 per
cent, we will have a better version for Barcelona, but now we know what to do
already and we can take more compromises and do it a bit in a better
direction. We have done this here, and it showed we have a good performance.
Q. Can you tell us how you got your lap time reinritated after the
disqualification yesterday?
MS: Really I wasn't involved in any of this. I was playing football
yesterday afternoon, and when I came back I got the message that I was
disqualified. What I would like to say is that I am quite happy that even
FISA can admit when they have done something wrong and change their mind to
make it right again. But, I did my time again today anyway, and it was
enough.
Q. Is it a serious handicap not having traction control here?
MS: Yes we have quite a lot of corners here where traction control will help
to make the car more stable, so that you don't always have to find your own
limit every time. I would imagine that a couple of tenths quicker is not
enough to beat the two guys in front of me. But it is another step. As I said
in Donington, I was pushing like hell to have [traction control] for this
race, but now it looks as though we will have it at Barcelona, and I hope it
helps to get us going in the right direction.
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| 24.64 | Sunday San Marino morning warmup | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 21:58 | 120 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP warmup times
Date: 25 Apr 1993 15:05:25 GMT
IMOLA, ITALY - (From Marlboro Sports Data System) Sunday morning warm-up
results for today's San Marino Grand Prix, fourth round in the FIA Formula
One World Driving Championship:
AVERAGE
CAR BEST LAP SPEED
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR TIME LAP km/h
---- --- ------ --- --------- --- -------
1 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'26.176 14 210.546
2 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'26.217 11 210.446
3 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'26.752 14 209.148
4 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'27.166 12 208.155
5 27 ALESI FER 1'27.180 9 208.121
6 28 BERGER FER 1'27.432 13 207.521
7 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'27.847 12 206.541
8 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'28.022 9 206.130
9 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'28.165 14 205.796
10 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'28.224 10 205.658
11 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'28.259 11 205.577
12 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'28.367 14 205.326
13 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'28.736 13 204.472
14 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'28.751 9 204.437
15 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'28.823 12 204.271
16 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'28.839 12 204.235
17 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'29.571 9 202.566
18 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'29.671 10 202.340
19 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'29.726 10 202.216
20 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'29.737 13 202.191
21 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'29.895 12 201.835
22 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 1'29.962 10 201.685
23 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'30.198 12 201.157
24 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'30.450 11 200.597
25 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 1'32.586 5 195.969
Warm-up Maximum Speeds
CAR TOP SPEED TOP SPEED
NO. DRIVER CAR KM/H MPH
--- ------ --- --------- ---------
0 HILL WIL/REN 322.570 200.436
6 PATRESE BEN/FO 320.070 198.882
5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 319.220 198.354
12 HERBERT LOT/FO 316.310 196.546
28 BERGER FER 314.190 195.229
2 PROST WIL/REN 313.910 195.055
26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 313.640 194.887
10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 313.550 194.831
25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 312.820 194.377
27 ALESI FER 312.730 194.321
11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 312.180 193.980
19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 311.910 193.812
9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 311.100 193.309
7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 310.920 193.197
30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 310.830 193.141
3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 310.110 192.693
22 BADOER BMS/FER 310.110 192.693
14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 309.930 192.582
8 SENNA MCL/FO 309.670 192.420
15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 309.400 192.252
4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 309.130 192.084
20 COMAS LAR/LAM 309.040 192.029
29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 307.630 191.152
23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 299.500 186.101
24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 298.090 185.225
Warm-up Marlboro News Service
Hill heads pre-race warm-up.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Under overcast skies with the possibility of rain for the race, it was Damon
Hill back at the head of the time sheets on Sunday morning when he headed the
pre-race warm-up session in race trim by a few hundredth's of a second from
his Williams-Renault teammate Alain Prost. Both were impressed with the
speed of Senna's Marlboro-McLaren in race trim and are expecting perhaps a
tougher battle than they had anticipated.
Senna strong in race trim.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ayrton Senna took his Marlboro-McLaren to a convincing third fastest time
ahead of Michael Schumacher's Benetton-Ford this morning, the Brazilian a
full 4-tenth's of a second faster than the German. Michael Andretti drove a
cautious session taking 12th fastest time.
Ferrari looking better for the race.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The tifosi's hopes of seeing a Ferrari driver on the podium at the end of
the race were a little higher this morning when Jean Alesi and Gerhard Berger
took fifth and sixth fastest times. "We are going to have to have some luck
to make the top three, but if we finish I hope we will be in the points,"
said Alesi, Berger less optimistic about his chances complaining that his car
was handling badly over the bumps with full tanks.
Warwick looking strong.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Derek Warwick set a strong ninth fastest time in the warm-up this morning,
the Footwork team hoping for a good race result despite the disappointing
grid position in practice. Aguri Suzuki had to use the spare car when his
race car suffered an hydraulic failure
Goodyear expecting one tyre stop.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If the race remains dry, Goodyear are expecting the leading runners to make
one stop for fresh tyres.
Lehto better on full tanks.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
J.J. Lehto set the tenth fastest time of the session, the Finn happier with
the handling of his Sauber-Ilmor in race trim, however, Karl Wendlinger was
unable to better 16th fastest in the second Sauber complaining of understeer
and a lack of grip.
In brief....Mark Blundell had some braking problems with his Ligier.
Although Herbert was a distant 14th, he was happy as he said he had done that
time with a set-up he didn't like which he could improve for the race. Both
Jordan drivers found there cars unstable with full tanks. Fittipaldi had a
gearbox failure while Barbazza's practice was cut short by an electrical
fault.
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| 24.65 | San Marino official race results | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 22:00 | 65 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP Official results
Date: 25 Apr 1993 15:07:12 GMT
IMOLA, ITALY - (From Marlboro Sports Data System) - Official Race
Results in today's San Marino Grand Prix, fourth round of the FIA
Formula One World Championship:
AVERAGE
CAR SPEED
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR TIME/DIST. km/h
---- --- ------ --- ------------- -------
1 2 PROST WIL/REN 1:33'20.413 197.625
2 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 32.410 196.488
3 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1 LAP 193.681
4 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 2 LAPS 193.568
5 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 2 LAPS 190.323
6 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 2 LAPS 189.244
7 22 BADOER BMS/FER 3 LAPS 185.025
8 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 4 LAPS 193.421
9 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 7 LAPS 173.505
RET 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO ON LAP 54 192.174
RET 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM ON LAP 49 183.737
RET 8 SENNA MCL/FO ON LAP 43 195.100
RET 27 ALESI FER ON LAP 41 190.671
RET 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO ON LAP 37 176.130
RET 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO ON LAP 33 189.009
RET 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG ON LAP 30 181.607
RET 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM ON LAP 23 173.031
RET 0 HILL WIL/REN ON LAP 21 185.028
RET 20 COMAS LAR/LAM ON LAP 19 173.689
RET 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM ON LAP 19 171.082
RET 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA ON LAP 18 165.072
RET 28 BERGER FER ON LAP 9 171.330
RET 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA ON LAP 2 24.613
RET 6 PATRESE BEN/FO ON LAP 1 .000
RET 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN ON LAP 1 .000
Best Laps
AVERAGE
CAR BEST LAP SPEED
NO. DRIVER CAR TIME LAP km/h
--- ------ --- --------- --- -------
2 PROST WIL/REN 1'26.128 42 210.663
5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'26.612 41 209.486
8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'27.490 28 207.384
11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'27.690 41 206.911
27 ALESI FER 1'28.317 30 205.442
12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'28.324 45 205.425
25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'28.430 45 205.179
0 HILL WIL/REN 1'28.590 19 204.809
19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'28.636 48 204.702
7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'28.803 30 204.317
9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'28.874 28 204.154
30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'29.092 44 203.655
29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'29.304 30 203.171
10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'29.332 29 203.108
24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 1'29.646 39 202.396
23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'30.438 22 200.624
20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'30.983 15 199.422
22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'31.751 46 197.753
14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'32.432 15 196.296
3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'33.541 19 193.968
4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'34.556 18 191.886
28 BERGER FER 1'42.881 8 176.359
15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 12'17.162 1 24.613
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| 24.66 | San Marino results, DNFs, points... | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 22:02 | 68 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP results & points standings
Date: 25 Apr 1993 19:17:14 GMT
SAN MARINO GRAND PRIX RESULTS
World Championship of Drivers,Round 4;
Imola,Italy, April 25th,1993.
61 laps,191.034 miles (307.440 km)
1. Alain Prost, Williams-Renault FW15C, 1h 33m 20.413s, 197.625kph;
2. Michael Schumacher, Benetton-Ford HB B193A, 1h 33m 52.823s;
3. Martin Brundle, Ligier-Renault JS39, 60 laps;
4. J.J.Lehto, Sauber-Ilmor C12, 59 laps;
5. Philippe Alliot, Larrousse-Lamborghini LH93, 59 laps;
6. Fabrizio Barbazza, Minardi-Ford HB M193, 59 laps;
7. Luca Badoer, BMS-Lola-Ferrari T93-30, 58 laps;
8. Johnny Herbert, Lotus-Ford HB 107B, 57 laps;
9. Aguri Suzuki, Footwork-Mugen-Honda 014, 54 laps.
Fastest Lap: Prost, lap 42, 1m 26.128 secs, 210.663kph (130.9 mph)
Retirements:
Lap 0 Mark Blundell, Ligier-Renault JS39, crashed;
Lap 0 Riccardo Patrese, Benetton-Ford HB B193B, spun;
Lap 1 Thierry Boutsen, Jordan-Hart 193, spun;
Lap 8 Gerhard Berger, Ferrari F93A, clutch;
Lap 17 Rubens Barrichello, Jordan-Hart 193,spun;
Lap 18 Andrea DeCesaris, Tyrrell-Yamaha 20C, gearbox;
Lap 18 Eric Comas, Larrousse-Lamborghini LH93, engine;
Lap 20 Damon Hill, Williams-Renault FW15C, slid off road;
Lap 22 Ukyo Katayama, Tyrrell-Yamaha 20C, engine;
Lap 29 Derek Warwick, Footwork-Mugen-Honda 013B, crashed;
Lap 32 Michael Andretti, Marlboro McLaren-Ford HB MP4/8, spun off;
Lap 36 Christian Fittipaldi, Minardi-Ford M193, suspension damage;
Lap 40 Jean Alesi, Ferrari F93A, clutch;
Lap 42 Ayrton Senna, Marlboro McLaren-Ford HB MP4/8, hydraulic leak;
Lap 48 Karl Wendlinger, Sauber Ilmor C12, engine;
Lap 53 Alessandro Zanardi, Lotus-Ford HB 107B, spin.
World Championship Positions.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. Senna 26
2. Prost 24
3. Hill 12
4. Schumacher 10
5. Blundell 6
6. Herbert 6
7. Lehto 5
8. Brundle 4
9. Fittipaldi 3
10. Alliot and Patrese 2
12. Barbazza 2
13. Berger and Zanardi 1
Constructors Championship Positions.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. Williams-Renault 36
2. McLaren-Ford 26
3. Benetton-Ford 12
4. Ligier-Renault 10
5. Lotus-Ford 7
6. Sauber 5
7. Minardi-Ford 5
8. Larrousse-Lamborghini 2
9. Ferrari 1
Lap Leaders: Lap 1-11 Hill
Lap 12-61 Prost
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| 24.67 | San Marino -- top-3 finisher's interviews | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 22:08 | 106 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP Winner's press conference
Date: 25 Apr 1993 19:19:45 GMT
IMOLA, ITALY - (F.I.S.A. News Service) Winner's Press Conference from
Sunday's San Marino Grand Prix, fourth round of the FIA Formula One World
Championship:
1. Alain Prost (Williams-Renault)
2. M. Schumacher (Benetton-Ford), 32.4 seconds behind
3. Martin Brundle (Ligier-Renault), 1 lap behind
Q. Alain, how do you feel after your 46th GP victory?
AP: I feel very tired. As you can imagine, this weekend was very difficult
and I am very happy to have got 10 points I was lucky that Ayrton did not
finish the race, so I have got very close to the championship [lead]. I think
and I hope that I will have a little bit less pressure now, it was not easy
to work this weekend.
Q. What happened at the start?
AP: I had a problem with the clutch this morning. It was OK, but the car was
starting to move a little bit and I had to stop it because otherwise I could
have been penalized. It was a typical thing, as soon as I put my foot on the
brake, the green light came on. Even with that, I still did quite a good
start. But Damon was on the outside and I think he had a better line to go
through the first corners. Being on the inside it was a bigger risk for me,
especially in the wet. Senna went past me here, in the fast corner.
Q. Where did you succeed in passing him?
AP: In fact, my car was fantastic in traction. I changed the setup a little
bit after the tests which we did on the wet track just before the race, and
the car was very, very good on the exit of each corner, especially [out of]
the hairpin at the end of the straight. He tried to overtake Dmon, but I went
on the outside of the corner and I had much better acceleration. So I was
able to overtake two cars together, which is unusual.
Q. So, no problems...?
AP: No. No problems. But I will just take the opportunity to say something
today, because I won the race. Each time I try to explain things to the
press, they take that as an excuse [to misquote me]. So from now until the
end of the season there will be no more information, on the mechanical side,
from me. [The press] will have to get that from the team.
Q. At Donington you mentioned that you could not get enouh downforce in the
wet. Was there enough downforce for you here, then?
AP: For sure the track is different and we put more downforce. We WERE able
to use more downforce at Donington, for the race, but we decided to go
half-way. I think that was a bad decision, it is what I said after the race,
but for sure on a track where you need more downforce we still have a problem
at the moment.
Q. Michael, you had some early battles, especially with Wendlinger, and that
was really it. Tell us about them...
MS: That's right, in the first half of the race I was fighting with the
people behind me. The problem for me at this moment, much as it was at
Donington, was that the car is not... really fantastic at the beginning of
the race, especially under wet conditions. Here we set up the car for dry
conditions, and we left it like that because we were quite sure it was going
to be dry. I knew I would have to wait a bit of time before my car became
good, and that is just what happened. At first I had to fight with Gerhard,
and then with Karl. We had a medium wing setting, while I think the others
had quite high wing settings. [Therefore] I was always able to pull away on
the straight but in the corners, sure, I was struggling. All the cars behind
were fitted with traction control, and it was definitely not easy to keep
them behind me out of slow corners when I went on the throttle.
But then, in the last half of the race, I was happy because the car was
working perfectly. It had a really good set-up. You saw I came even closer
to Ayrton, I think I pulled 0.5 to 0.75 of a second away from the gap between
us. I wasn't pushing 100 percent because I knew I had to come into the
points, and I knew at this stage already I was on the podium. So I was
pushing, but at about 95 percent, just taking care to finish the race. That
was the most important thing for me and the team because in Donington we
didn't had a good race and good results, so there was a lot of pressure, and
for me it was the situation to take the pressure away.
Q. Martin, after your problems earlier in the season, you must be very
pleased to be on the podium.
MB: Yes. Very happy for the team. That's three strong results in the first
four races. Of course, the engine was fantastic today. The car worked well.
We are pleased, but we know we have some work to do to catch up with the
Williams, who have the same engine. But at the moment we are making strong
progress. I had an oil temperature problem. So it was a combination at the
end of trying to cool the engine but also stay ahead of the two Saubers. So
it was an interesting race for me. Good fights. The car handled well. I had
nearly a dry setup, so I was very much hoping that it didn't rain more than it
did. I was struggling a bit. As soon as the rain starting coming down, the
two Saubers could catch me. As soon as it dried a little bit, I was away
again.
Q. You must have been quite surprised when you suddenly went from sixth to
fourth to third in almost successive laps...
MB: That's right. The whole race I was chasing Jean Alesi and concentrating
only on him. I thought Wendlinger was holding me up to give his mate [Lehto]
a chance behind me. I was really getting angry and we had a big fight. And
then I realized that I had just taken a place from him. At the same time,
Jean dropped out and McLaren fell over itself. Yes, I'll take this one, thank
you.
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| 24.68 | San Marino -- post-race team quotes | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Apr 25 1993 22:13 | 98 |
| From: [email protected] (Francisco J. Diaz)
Subject: F1 SMGP post-race team quotes
Date: 25 Apr 1993 19:22:23 GMT
IMOLA, ITALY - (From Marlboro Sports Data System) Quotes from selected
teams in Sunday's San Marino Grand Prix, fourth round of the FIA
Formula One World Championship:
Marlboro McLaren
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The San Marino Grand Prix ended early for the Marlboro McLarens of Ayrton
Senna and Michael Andretti. The American driver was the first to have to
abandon the fray in the 32nd lap, after his brakes locked up. Ayrton went off
ten laps later, his MP4/8 suffering from hydraulic failure.
Ayrton Senna: "We had a hydraulic failure at the end of the straight, at
over 300 kms... it was close. I managed to stop the car and shortly after I
lost all systems. I also had brake problems, but we took a gamble there, with
brakes that would work better in the wet than in the dry. It was a decision
we all took together. Still I was coping alright until the failure."
Michael Andretti: "Our brake balance was set up for the wet and I couldn't
reach to adjust it. My rear wheels started to lock when I tried to have a go
at Wendlinger. They locked again and I nearly overshot the corner. Then I was
behind him again. I wasn't trying to pass him, but my rear locked up again
going into the corner and the car swapped ends on me. It's a pity, I was
trying to get the car home."
Mark Parish (Cosworth) "Michael's car was running a little hotter that we'd
like, but he might have picked up some debris on the track. No problems with
Ayrton's car."
Ron Dennis: "A very disappointing day. The team worked very hard and it
would have been nice to have brought a result back. Reliability and accidents
are a part of motor racing."
Scuderia Ferrari
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Transmission problems forced both Ferraris to retire from the San Marino GP.
Berger suffered broken first and second gears at the moment that he left the
pits after changing tyres at the end of lap 9. At the time he was lying 5th
and was closing on Schumacher. Alesi was holding a strong 4th place when on
the 43 lap, his clutch failed.
Gerhard Berger: "I made a very good start and although the car was not very
easy to drive I had been able on a few occasions to try and attack
Schumacher's Benetton. I had decided to wait until after my tyre stop to try
again but as I left the pit the gearbox failed. I'm disappointed but I can
console myself with the fact that the car's performance today, especially
after Saturday's difficulties, was a noticeable improvement. This shows we
are working in the right direction and once we gain reliability we will be
able to aim for the podium regularly."
Alesi who was cheered by the spectators as he walked back to the pits is
convinced that he could have finished on the podium today. "At the start on
full tanks the car was difficult to drive and I had decided to be cautious.
Then as the car got gradually lighter the situation improved and I went on
the attack. A shame because I really wanted to thank the fantastic Imola fans
with a good result. Now we must work, work, and work to achieve reliability.
But I am confident."
Ferrari who today hosted the great Spanish tenor, Placido Domingo, will stay
at Imola testing, tomorrow, Tuesday and Wednesday.
Sasol Jordan
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rubens Barrichello had an eventful race. He lost time when he had to pit at
the end of the first lap to replace a punctured rear left tyre after an
accident with Christian Fittipaldi. He resumed the race, stopping for slicks
on lap 9 and was lying in 20th position when he spun off at Tosa on lap 18.
"There was a bit of confusion ahead of me on the first lap when somebody
went off. Christian had to go wide to avoid it and I was there; we touched and
I spun off so I had to come into the pits to change my tyres. After that
everything was going quite well. We had set the brakes for the wet tough and
they were not biting so well which was causing me a few problems. On lap 18 I
was having a bit of a battle with Zanardi then he went wide at Tosa and that
caused me to spin. The engine was still running, but the car was stuck so
that was it."
Thierry Boutsen had problems with the hydrulic pump on the gearbox right
from the start of the race. He pitted at the end of the first lap and the
team tried to rectify the problem. Thierry went out again when the leaders
were on lap 7, but completed just one more lap before retiring.
"I did about 300m at the start then I couldn't change gear any more. I came
in and we tried very hard to fix it, but as you cannot add any fluid to the
car during the race it was always going to be tricky. I went out again to
check it but it hadn't worked. It's a great shame because in these conditions
the car is very good. I'm sorry for the team and the mechanics; I'll try very
hard to win the next one for them!"
Eddie Jordan: "Everything was going well until the start of the race! I'm
bitterly disappointed, but I would like to think that today was just an
unfortunate hiccup. The progress is definitely there with the team and the
engine has performed faultlessly all weekend."
Brian Hart: "It was one of those days when you had to get to the finish!."
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| 24.69 | Spanish GP -- Prost on provisional pole | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Fri May 07 1993 13:07 | 63 |
| From: [email protected] (UPI)
Subject: Prost fastest in Spanish GP practise
Date: Fri, 7 May 93 7:47:21 PDT
MONTMELO, Spain (UPI) -- Triple world champion Alain Prost of France
Friday continued his battle to wrest leadership of the Formula One
drivers' championship from rival Ayrton Senna of Brazil by claiming
provisional pole position for Sunday's Spanish Grand Prix.
Prost, who trails Senna by just two points in the standings after
four rounds of this season's 16-race calendar, lapped the 2.95-mile
Circuit de Catalunya in his Williams-Renault, clocking the fastest time
of 1 minute 19.599 seconds.
Prost is aiming for his fifth successive pole. Senna, in the McLaren-
Ford, was second quickest Friday with a best time of 1:20.221.
Prost's teammate, Damon Hill of Britain, took third with 1:20.400 but
was nearly a full behind his best effort during the free practice
session held earlier in the day.
In spite of his performance, the Frenchman was not entirely happy
with the Williams-Renault on a track which he described as ``bumpy.''
``The track has changed since the last time I was here and I think
there are some very small bumps which have affected our car. It is not
as easy here as we hoped,'' he said.
Senna, who won the Brazilian and European Grands Prix earlier this
season to gain a surprise lead over Prost, was delighted with his car's
performance and claimed he could have broken the 1:19 barrier had he not
been balked by slow traffic in the hour-long qualifying session.
``We had no problems with the car and got out of it more than we
could have hoped for in terms of performance. Let's see whether we can
improve tomorrow,'' he said.
Michael Schumacher of Germany and his Benetton Ford team-mate
Riccardo Patrese of Italy took provisional fourth and fifth positions on
the grid with laps of 1:21.148 and 1:21.880 respectively.
Schumacher, who finished second behind Prost at last month's San
Marino Grand Prix, is suffering an eye irritation and was due to receive
hospital treatment later Friday.
Former Indy car champion Michael Andretti of the United States
continued his disappointing start in his first season in Formula One,
finishing sixth and more than two seconds behind his teammate Senna.
Spanish Formula One Grand Prix
First day qualifying
at Montmelo, Spain
Friday, May 7
1, Alain Prost, France, Williams-Renault, 1 minute 19.599 seconds.
2, Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren-Ford, 1:20.221. 3, Damon Hill, Britain,
Williams-Renault, 1:20.400. 4, Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton-
Ford, 1:21.148. 5, Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton-Ford, 1:21.880.
6, Michael Andretti, United States, McLaren-Ford, 1:22.286. 7, JJ Lehto,
Finland, Sauber, 1:22.801. 8, Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus, 1:23.
541. 9, Alessandro Zanardi, Italy, Lotus, 1:23.579.
10, Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 1:23.614. 11, Karl Wendlinger,
Austria, Sauber, 1:23.696. 12, Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork-Mugen-Honda,
1:23.971.13. Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier-Renault, 1:24.107. 14,
Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork-Mugen-Honda, 1:24.158. 15, Christian
Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi-Ford, 1:24.304. 16, Gerhard Berger, Austria,
Ferrari, 1:24.346. 17, Thierry Boutsen, Belgium, Jordan, 1:24.476.
18, Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan, 1:24.708.
19, Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier-Renault, 1:24.748. 20,
Erik Comas, France, Larrousse, 1:24.995. 21, Ukyo Katayama, Japan,
Tyrrell, 1:25.607. 22, Fabrizio Barbazza, Italy, Minardi, 1:25.616.
23, Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse, 1:26.698. 24, Michele Alboreto,
Italy, Lola, 1:26.813. 25, Luca Badoer, Italy, Ferrari, 1:26.851. 26,
Andrea De Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell, 1:27.724
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| 24.70 | Spanish GP -- starting grid | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat May 08 1993 17:28 | 44 |
| From: [email protected]
Subject: Spanish GP Saturday Times
Date: 8 May 93 13:28:56 -0500
MARLBORO RACING NEWS -- THE OFFICIAL INDYCAR NEWS SERVICE
========================================================
Spanish Grand Prix
May 8, 1993
Saturday Qualifying Report & Times
SPANISH GRAND PRIX FINAL GRID
-----------------------------------
1,Alain Prost, Williams-Renault FW15C, 1m 17,809s,219,630kph;
2,Damon Hill, Williams-Renault FW15C, 1m 18,346 secs;
3,Ayrton Senna, McLaren-Ford HB MP4/8, 1m 19,722 secs;
4,Michael Schumacher, Benetton-Ford HB B193B, 1m 20,520 secs;
5,Riccardo Patrese, Benetton-Ford HB B193A, 1m 20,600 secs;
6,Karl Wendlinger, Sauber C12, 1m 21,203 secs;
7,Michael Andretti, McLaren-Ford HB MP4/8, 1m 21,360 secs;
8,Jean Alesi, Ferrari F93A, 1m 21,767 secs;
9,J.J.Lehto, Sauber C12, 1m 22,047 secs;
10,Johnny Herbert, Lotus-Ford HB 107B, 1m 22,470 secs;
11,Gerhard Berger, Ferrari F93A, 1m 22,655 secs;
12,Mark Blundell, Ligier-Renault JS39, 1m 22,708 secs;
13,Philippe Alliot, Larrousse-Lamborghini LH03, 1m 22,887 secs;
14,Eric Comas, Ligier-Renault JS39, 1m 22,904 secs;
15,Alessandro Zanardi, Lotus-Ford HB 107B, 1m 23,026 secs;
16,Derek Warwick, Footwork-Mugen-Honda 014, 1m 23,086 secs;
17,Rubens Barrichello, Jordan-Hart 193, 1m 23,232 secs;
18,Martin Brundle, Ligier-Renault JS39, 1m 23,357 secs;
19,Aguri Suzuki, Footwork-Mugen-Honda 014, 1m 23,432 secs;
20,Christian Fittipaldi,Minardi-Ford HB M193, 1m 23,449 secs;
21,Thierry Boutsen, Jordan-Hart 193, 1m 23,464 secs;
22,Luca Badoer, BMS-Lola-Ferrari, 1m 24,268 secs;
23,Ukyo Katayama, Tyrrell-Yamaha 20C, 1m 24,291 secs;
24,Andrea DeCesaris, Tyrrell-Yamaha 20C, 1m 24,358 secs;
25,Fabrizio Barbazza, Minardi-Ford HB M193, 1m 24,399 secs;
NOT QUALIFIED.
--------------
26,Michele Alboreto, BMS-Lola-Ferrari T93-30, 1m 25 396 secs.
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| 24.71 | Spanish GP -- results | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Mon May 10 1993 12:19 | 84 |
| From: [email protected] (GILES TREMLETT)
Subject: Prost wins Spanish Grand Prix to regain championship lead
Date: Sun, 9 May 93 9:55:29 PDT
MONTMELO, Spain (UPI) -- Alain Prost of France overtook Ayrton Senna
for the lead in the Formula One season championship by beating his great
rival Sunday in the Spanish Grand Prix.
The Frenchman drove his Williams-Renault to victory at the Circuit of
Catalunya, finishing the 65-lap, 192-mile race in one hour, 32 minutes
and 27.685 seconds at an average speed of 124.419 mph to extend his
record total of grands prix triumphs to 47. Senna, in the McLaren-Ford,
finished more than 16 seconds behind.
``I think this was physically one of the most difficult races I have
ever driven,'' said Prost, exhausted. ``I have cramps in my hands and I
am very tired.''
Germany's Michael Schumacher piloted his Benetton-Ford into third,
ahead of his Italian teammate Riccardo Patrese. Senna's teammate,
Michael Andretti of the United States, finished fifth and completed a
Formula One for the first time in five career starts. Gerhard Berger of
Austria finished sixth in a Ferrari.
``I tried to keep a steady pace throughout the race and, above all,
to finish,'' said a relieved Andretti, who has had a disasterous start
to Formula One since switching from IndyCar this season.
Prost, who won the opening event of the 16-race season at Kyalami in
South Africa as well as last month's San Marino Grand Prix, moved to 36
points in the driver's championship, leapfrogging the Brazilian into
first place.
Senna had opened up a surprise lead after back-to-back victories in
the Brazilian and European Grands Prix but has slipped to second with 34
points.
``It was a very tough race and I think that second was an excellent
result,'' Senna said.
Schumacher's third place took him to third in the championship
standings, with 14 points, two ahead of Prost's British teammate Damon
Hill who retired from Sunday's race on lap 42.
Hill, whose father Graham was world champion in 1962 and 1968, shot
past Prost on pole position to lead the race through the first 10 laps
before the Frenchman took over.
Hill, who has twice finished second in Formula One but is yet to win
a race in his first full season, stuck to Prost's tail and tried to pull
past him on the straight but his efforts ended in vain when he was
forced to retire with engine failure.
``Damon was pushing me a lot. If he had kept on it might have been
difficult for me to hold the lead,'' said Prost.
The domination of the two Williams-Renault cars over the McLaren-Ford
MP4-8s was again clearly evident. Prost surged more than 50 seconds
clear of Senna before slowing down in the closing stages to ensure
victory.
The sixth round of the Formula One season will be held on the
demanding Monte Carlo street circuit on May 23.
Spanish Formula One Grand Prix
At Montmelo, Spain, May 9
65 laps (308.555 km/191.732 miles)
1. Alain Prost, France, Williams-Renault, 1 hour 32 minutes
27.685 seconds (average speed: 200.227 kph/124.419 mph)
2. Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren-Ford, 1:32:44.558
3. Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton-Ford, 1:32:54.810
4. Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton-Ford, 1 lap behind
5. Michael Andretti, U.S., McLaren-Ford, 1 lap
6. Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, 2 laps
7. Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier-Renault, 2 laps
8. Christian Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi-Ford, 2 laps
9. Erik Comas, France, Larrousse-Lamborghini, 2 laps
10. Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork-Mugen-Honda, 2 laps
11. Thierry Boutsen, Belgium, Jordan-Hart, 3 laps
12. Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan-Hart, 3 laps
13. Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork-Mugen-Honda, 3 laps
14. Alessandro Zanardi, Italy, Lotus-Ford, 5 laps
Did not finish
J.J. Lehto, Finland, Sauber, 53 laps completed
Luca Badoer, Italy, Ferrari, 43 laps
Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, 42 laps
Andrea De Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell-Yamaha, 42 laps
Damon Hill, Britain, Williams-Renault, 41 laps
Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 40 laps
Fabrizio Barbazza, Italy, Minardi-Ford, 37 laps
Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse-Lamborghini, 26 laps
Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier-Renault, 11 laps
Ukio Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell-Yamaha, 11 laps
Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus-Ford, 2 laps
Fastest lap: Schumacher 1:20.989 (211.006 kph/131.1673 mph)
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| 24.72 | Spanish GP -- post-race team quotes | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Wed May 12 1993 11:26 | 162 |
| From: DECWRL::"[email protected]" "Francisco J. Diaz"
Subj: F1 Spanish GP team quotes
BARCELONA - (Courtesy Marlboro Sports Data System) Spanish Grand
Prix selected team notes and quotes:
Marlboro McLaren
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Marlboro McLaren team scored eight points to maintain second place
in the Constructors' Championship. Ayrton Senna finished second, behind Alain
Prost, while Michael Andretti successfully completed his first Formula 1 race
scoring two points.
Ayrton Senna: "To have two drivers in the top six is a great result for the
team. Especially for Michael; lets hope he can keep this pace up throughout
the season. I came in for tyres as the rear ones in particular were worn,
dirty and affecting the balance of the car. It's best to stop and be safe...
though it was an unusual pit stop! I was hoping that Alain might have had
some problems, but it was not to be. Second in the circumstances is an
excellent result."
Michael Andretti: "Quite honestly I am relieved, and though it wasn't very
exciting, it feels as if a weight has been lifted off my shoulders. I brought
it home."
Ron Dennis: "Probably the best we could have hoped for. We are of course
here to win, but we do lack the horsepower, as does everyone else without a
Renault. A poor pit stop for Ayrton made his job a little harder, but did not
change the result, while Michael's fifth place will be a confidence booster
for him."
Pete Spence (Cosworth): "We are delighted to have finished with both cars in
the points. The engines ran perfectly all day and we are especially pleased
to have achieved this result with the lower spec version of the Ford HB."
Ferrari
~~~~~~~
Sixth place for Gerhard Berger, retirement on lap 42 for Jean Alesi. This
was the story of Ferrari's Spanish GP. Berger raced with the new type of
actuator with the gas springs and experienced many problems in the early part
of the race.
Gerhard Berger: "On full tanks the car was very difficult to drive as the
active suspension was not working properly. Because of this the tyres were
wearing quickly, and I was forced to change them at the end of the 30th lap.
After the stop I was in 15th place. I decided to wait for the car to become
easier to drive as the fuel load lightened. I went onto the attack in the
last 20 laps and managed to get up into the points. It's not a great result
but it is important as we have accumulated kilometres and experience. The
road to being competitive is still a long one."
Jean Alesi was in 6th place when he retired.
Jean Alesi: "I had a tough but quiet race. I was sure that I could keep
Lehto behind me but I did not think that I could close the gap to Andretti in
front of me. Then the engine let go suddenly without warning. I am upset but
not disheartened. At Monte Carlo I will be fighting as usual."
Camel Benetton Ford
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Michael Schumacher: "There was a stage when I thought I wouldn't make it to
the end, never mind finishing third. At about half distance, I began to get a
vibration from the tyres. Then the gearbox seemed to develop a mind of its
own; it went down to first and then into third when I was not expecting it.
So I thought a change of tyres might cure the gearbox problem because it
would get rid of the terrible vibration. After the pit stop, the gearbox
worked okay, but only for about five laps. Every time I went to use second
gear, the box went into first. So that meant I could only use third where I
really needed second. Then, near the end, Zanardi's engine blew up in front
of me. I tried to go round the outside but there was so much dirt off line
that I went straight on. After that, there was no chance of catching Senna. I
was happy just to bring the car home."
Riccardo Patrese: "The car was working well, but we had a vibration problem
yesterday and again this morning during warm-up. We didn't manage to cure it.
My car was vibrating a lot at the end of the straight and I had problems with
my left-front wheel. I had chosen not to push too hard at the beginning
because I wanted to finish the race without changing my tyres. I'm happy,
it's a positive result."
Flavio Briatore: "A good result for the team, and an exciting race for us as
Michael chased Senna until he went off on Zanardi's oil. And a good result
for Riccardo too, we're very pleased for him."
Jim Brett, Cosworth Engineering: "It's very satisfying to get both drivers
into the points after a trouble-free weekend."
Tyrrell
~~~~~~~
Ukyo Katayama retired from the Spanish Grand Prix after an early accident
damaged his suspension, and Andrea de Cesaris was black flagged and excluded
from the race after marshals pushed him to a position of safety when he
stopped in the pit straight with an electrical problem.
Andrea de Cesaris: "My start was very good and I picked up four places
straight away. Then I was trying to stop the two Minardi's overtaking me and
I managed to do this for quite a long time. But then the leaders started to
lap me and I picked up dirt going off the racing line to let them pass and I
was not then able to hold off the cars behind me. But I was holding my
position until I got the overheating problem. After the second pitstop I was
black flagged and stopped on lap 42."
Ukyo Katayama: "Today it was very important for me to finish the race and so
after the start I was driving very carefully to keep out of trouble and
conserve the car. But on the first lap I went off on the exit to Sabadell. I
don't know what happened, I turned in and went straight on. The team fixed
the suspension damage but afterwards I had oversteer everywhere, the car was
vibrating from the imbalance, and it caused me to spin again at Wurth."
Rubert Manwaring, Team Manager: "Ukyo's first lap accident damaged the rear
suspension and it took the mechanics quite a long time to fix it. We sent him
out again but the car was handling very badly and he spun off on lap 11.
Andrea's car started overheating badly early on and when we brought him in on
lap 34 we found three visor ripoffs in the radiators. We cleaned these out
and sent him out again, the temperature returning to normal and the car
running well on new tyres. Then his engine developed an electrical fault, a
sensor failed on the engine, maybe this was a result of running hot. He
stopped in the pit straight and the marshals pushed him into the pitlane so
we were able to fix the problem and send him out again, but then he was black
flagged for the push into the pitlane."
Takaaki Kimura, Yamaha F1 Project Leader: "With the new spec engines we know
where we must put our efforts and feel that, although there is a lot of work
to do, we know the areas to concentrate on."
Team Castrol Lotus
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Neither Johnny Herbert nor Alessandro Zanardi finished today's Spanish Grand
Prix. Johnny retired on the first lap with an electronic problem, while
Alessandro had fought his way up into sixth place by lap 55, only to suffer
engine failure five laps later.
Alessandro Zanardi: "I had a small problem at the beginning, which became a
big problem after only a few laps as the car started to oversteer more and
more. It stayed like that until the end. The only place it didn't oversteer
was going onto the straight, but Comas was very quick there so I couldn't
pass. Then he seemed to have a gearchange problem and I managed to overtake
him after the Seat hairpin. Things seemed to settle then in sixth place, but
suddenly my engine just broke. One moment it was fine; a thousandth of a
second later something broke without any warning."
Johnny Herbert: "Obviously I'm very disappointed with the result, especially
as the car felt very good on the formation lap. The problem was with the
active system, which has been very reliable until now. It started on the warm
up lap and I had to start the race from the back of the grid. Basically, the
wrong messages were being sent which made the car undriveable, and I retired
at the end of lap one."
Peter Collins: "Alessandro drove really well today and deserved to score
points. Johnny's problem was a load cell failure in the active system, which
prevented the computer reading the load properly. Very disappointing, but
obviously it just wasn't our day."
Ligier Gitanes Blondes
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Martin Brundle: "I couldn't understand from the start why my car was so
difficult to drive, when suddenly my rear right tyre which had a puncture,
deflated completely, and I spun."
Mark Blundell: "When Zanardi blew up his engine I was covered with oil and
couldn't see anything. Then Gerhard decided to pass me, and as my car was
very difficult to drive I couldn't do anything to keep sixth place."
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| 24.73 | Spanish GP -- winner's press conference | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Wed May 12 1993 11:28 | 92 |
| From: DECWRL::"[email protected]" "Francisco J. Diaz"
Subj: F1 Spanish GP winner's press conference
BARCELONA, SPAIN - (From FISA News Service) Spanish Grand Prix winner's
Press Conference at Barcelona:
1. Alain Prost (Williams-Renault)
2. Ayrton Senna (McLaren-Ford), 16.9 seconds behind
3. M. Schumacher (Benetton-Ford), 27.1 seconds behind
Q. Alain, what happened at the start?
AP: We have an automatic start [system]. And when I put it in first gear it
did not change from first to second. I stayed in first gear on the limiter
and I had to change [the gear] myself.
Q. The overtaking manoeuvre with Damon looked very smooth...
AP: Yes. In fact the car was very good at the beginning. The problem I had
behind Damon was he was either losing oil or water, I don't know, but I
had very bad visibility. When you are behind another car on this track, it
can be difficult because the turbulence loses you a lot of downforce in fast
corners. I saw before that everywhere I was able to brake a little bit later.
So I had no problem...he stayed on the left, he was quite good mannered. The
car was OK but then it started to jump, a lot. I was able to go quicker, if I
wanted to, for one, two or three laps. But I was very tired, and I could not
go much longer as quick as Damon, who was pushing me a lot. If he had been
able to stay like that, as fast as he was, and I do not know if he was able
to do it, I would have been in trouble for sure. Now I am very tired. I had
some cramps. [Normally] I never have any problems with my hands, but it was
quite tiring, and physically one of my most difficult races.
Q. Were you tempted to come in for tyres?
AP: I was tempted, once, when Damon was behind me. I thought, 'OK, if he can
overtake me, then I maybe will decide to change tyres.' Also, I had some
vibration and I thought maybe it would have been easier with a fresh set. But
Ayrton was not so close behind at that stage, maybe 18 or 20 seconds, and
I decided not to change.
Q. How much of a threat was Damon to you?
AP: We had no team orders. Which is clear for people who could think number 1
is number 2. No team orders at all. The only thing we had decided was that in
the last 10 laps, if we were first and second, we would not fight anymore.
The race was open. He had the same car. He is going very well at the moment.
He is increasing his confidence. Nothing more to say.
Q. Ayrton, what decided you to come in for tyres?
AS: Well, first of all, naturally the tyres were a little bit worn out at
that late stage of the race, particularly the rear tyres, and my car balance
wasn't really to my liking anymore. I have to say that today the backmarkers
were really very difficult. Several of them, not just one. At that late
stage, when I came close to a bunch of three or four of them, I got dirt on
my tyres. I was already struggling to keep the grip, but then I lost it
altogether and I couldn't bring it back anymore. I decided to stop and get
fresh rubber, to be safe. Then I had an unusual pit stop, which really was
frustrating, and that put me back in a position where I was was under
pressure from Michael. He was very motivated then, and he was going very
fast. With the backmarkers, it was hard again to maintain the pace. I nearly
went off, I nearly hit Suzuki from behind when he braked in the middle of one
of the corners just before the pit straight. It is a corner which you
normally take almost flat. I don't know how I missed him, and I nearly went
straight on. Either there were lots of engine blow ups today, or I had the
bad luck to be right behind all of them, on each occasion! I saw four or five
engines blow, running right in front of me, and BANG! My visor was full of
oil and I ran out of rip-offs. Six laps from the end there was another
blow-up, and this time I had nothing to cover the visor. I couldn't see
anything anymore. I knew that Michael was three or four seconds behind me at
the stage, and it was really tough just to see the circuit, keep my
concentration and stay on line. It was a very difficult and demanding race.
Second place is an excellent result.
Q. Michael, why did you change tyres?
MS: I got a big vibration, and because of it the gearbox decided to do what
it wanted to do. It went down into first and up into first and all these
things. I thought I was not going to finish. I thought, try the new tyres and
maybe you will lose the vibration and in this moment maybe you will lose the
problems with the gearbox. I went in for tyres and I actually lost the big
problem with the gearbox. But after five laps of pushing, the gearbox
problem came back. I wasn't able to use 2nd gear anymore because when I was
in second it went into 1st. So I had to go into every corner in 3rd gear
which was sometimes quite difficult to turn in. I got a lot of oversteer and
nearly lost the car a couple of times. At the end Zanardi blew up his engine
and was still on line. He was so slow that I tried to overtake him on the
outside, which was absolutely impossible because there was so much dirt,
gravel and everything. I turned the steering wheel but I went straight over
the gravel bed. So I was quite happy to keep the car on the road. And after
this there was no more chance to push Ayrton, and I just decided to bring the
car home. I think it is another good result for me and the team.
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| 24.74 | Hill quickest at Monaco on Thursday -- Senna stuffs it | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Thu May 20 1993 12:59 | 76 |
| From: [email protected] (Andrew W Payton)
Subject: F1 Monaco - Thursday Qual.
Date: 20 May 93 13:01:21 GMT
>From BBC CEEFAX
MOTOR RACING: MONACO
FORMULA ONE GRAND PRIX
Damon Hill rose to the occasion on
the street circuit where his father
Graham won five times to lead the
way in the first practice session.
The Briton mastered difficult wet
conditions to clock 1 min 38.963
secs, with Williams teammate Alain
Prost second fastest.
Ayrton Senna's 1:42.327 after an
earlier shunt was only fifth best
behind Michael Schumacher and
Gerhard Berger's Ferrari.
Mark Blundell produced a lap of
1:43.449 in his Ligier to claim a
place in the top ten.
Ayrton Senna crashed heavily in his
McLaren during unofficial practice
for Sunday's race in Monte Carlo.
The 33-year-old Brazilian, who set
the fastest lap early in the
session, hit the barriers on the
left side of the street circuit on
Ste Devote corner at around 120mph.
The three times world champion was
helped from the car, looking badly
shaken and was taken to the circuit
medical centre for treatment.
Both the left wheels of his Ford-
powered MP4/8 car had been ripped
off as it skidded across the track.
FIA FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Thursday's qualifying times:
mins secs
1 D Hill GB Williams 1:38.963
2 A Prost Fr Williams 1:39.649
3 M Schumacher Ger Benetton 1:40.780
4 G Berger Aut Ferrari 1:40.853
5 A Senna Brz Mclaren 1:42.127
6 R Patrese It Benetton 1:42.136
7 J Alesi It Ferrari 1:42.160
8 P Alliot Fr Larrousse 1:43.031
9 M Blundell GB Ligier 1:43.449
10 C Fittipaldi Brz Minardi 1:43.829
11 J Herbert GB Lotus 1:43.898
12 A De Cesaris It Tyrrell 1:44.193
13 R B'chello Brz Jordan 1:44.310
14 E Comas Fr Larrousse 1:44.483
15 F Barbazza It Minardi 1:44.524
16 D Warwick GB Footwork 1:44.884
17 K W'linger Aut Sauber 1:45.439
18 T Boutsen Bel Jordan 1:45.512
19 M Andretti US McLaren 1:45.993
20 M Brundle GB Ligier 1:46.446
21 L Badoer It Lola 1:46.745
22 A Zanardi Brz Lotus 1:46.935
23 M Alboreto It Lola 1:47.082
24 JJ Lehto Fin Sauber 1:48.526
25 U Katayama Jap Tyrrell 1:49.210
26 A Suzuki Jpn Footwork 10:06.384
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| 24.75 | Keep it up! | TFH::JROGERS | | Thu May 20 1993 14:50 | 10 |
| I sure appreciate the updates from WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M. With the lack
of coverage here in the U.S., it is great to get timely information
about Monaco.
Any Canadian readers who might be able to share a tape of the race
with some of us blackout victims?
Thanks,
Jeff
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| 24.76 | my pleasure... | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Thu May 20 1993 19:02 | 13 |
| Re: Note 931.75 by TFH::JROGERS
>I sure appreciate the updates from WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M. With the lack
>of coverage here in the U.S., it is great to get timely information
>about Monaco.
Glad to do it...I enjoy them and like to share the wealth. Remember the
olden days where you'd wait two months for Road&Track to publish the
results? Now I'm _all_ bent out of shape if I don't get same-day stats...
There's often good F1 information in the conference WANLAD::CARS_UK , note
number 1830.
Mike
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| 24.77 | another Monaco Q1 report | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Fri May 21 1993 12:32 | 80 |
| From: [email protected]
Subject: F1: Monaco GP Q1 report
The story of Thursday at Monaco is one which we have grown accustomed to this
season - WET! In the morning untimed practice, it was extremely wet, and there
were several offs. One notable one was Ayrton Senna, who virtually destroyed
his McLaren when he hit the barriers very hard approaching Ste Devote, the
right-handed first turn at the end of the start-finish straight. Braking from
170mph (!!), the McLaren hit a bump and was pitched into the barriers. The
left side was ripped off the car, and then the right front was removed as the
car bounced back across the track and clipped the barriers on the other side.
Ayrton was helped out, and he then paid a brief visit to the Medical centre for
a check up and treatment for a badly bruised thumb, and a sore tongue which he
had bitten in the accident. Investigations by the team later established that
the ride height on the car had been set too low, and as a result, it bottomed
out on the bumps in the braking area for the corner.
Other spinners included Schumacher, whose Benetton rotated right in front of
the Williams of Damon Hill, forcing him wide. The German ace didn't hit
anything and managed to keep going. Andrea De Cesaris was another spinner, and
he destroyed the nosecone, three wheels and one sidepod of his Tyrrell. Many
teams, including Williams and Benetton, were running Footwork-style
double-decker rear wings here. The Williams version looked particularly huge!
When qualifying proper got under way, the Williams of Prost was out early, and
even though the rain had stopped, the track was still soaked, so wet tyres
were the order of the day. The Williams looked very composed, hardly ever
seeming to get out of shape. In the early stages, Prost was ahead of Hill,
with Schumacher third and Alliot (fresh from his successful Le Mans test for
Peugeot) a temporary 4th. Alesi was his usual extreme self in the Ferrari,
which was said to had completely abandoned active suspension, at least for this
race. The car certainly looked skittish, but then with Jean behind the wheel,
even a Williams would look skittish!
Zanardi crashed his Lotus in the tunnel, and the red flag flew briefly while
the car was pushed out of the way. To everyone's surprise and amazement, the
number 8 McLaren then emerged from the pits. Ayrton Senna, just 2.5 hours
after his Ste Devote crash, emerged to try and qualify for the GP. It was
a testament to the McLaren mechanics, and even though his first flying lap was
worth 1m 44.438s, he drove as if the accident had never happend! Ayrton said
"The mechanics did a great job in such a such a short time. Unfortunately,
it was badly balanced and in these wet conditions became difficult to drive."
Prost and Hill got a few early banker laps in, the Frenchman top with
1m 39.839s. Alliot was still running, and his lap was a very good one. He
made 5th with a 1:45.152. Hill then decided to take a risk and save his
remaining laps for later in the session. "In honesty it was just a question of
being out at the right moment," he said later. "The track was drying quickly,
particularly up the hill to Casino square where the cars are running hard on
full throttle. It was always going to be a tricky one with the heavy downpour
at the start of the session. My plan was to do a time in the first part in the
shortest possible number of laps. I did that, but then Alain went quicker. It
all came down to timing our last run."
Meanwhile, Schumacher was out again, his Benetton now equipped with traction
control for the first time. Ford had finally given their approval, and in fact
the team was using the series 6 engine in preference to the series 7 version,
because of the former's better torque characteristics. Michael certainly
needed the traction control, because the car was slipping and sliding all over
the place, and especially under braking. His time of 1:44.476 placed him 4th
at that time. He carried on running, but on the next lap, he outbraked himself
at the Mirabeau, fortunately without hitting anything. He ran up the slip
road, reversed back onto the track, and then carried on.
Michael Andretti was driving well, but after setting his best time of 1:45.993,
spun 360deg at Ste Devote under braking. This time, his car only clipped the
barrier with one corner, but unfortunately the engine stalled, and he was out
of the session. Ron Dennis later said "After a day like this, things can only
get better on Saturday!". Riccardo Patrese posted a 1:44.737 to place 5th
behind his teammate.
The track now started to dry out, with a definite line clearly visible.
Consequently, the times started coming down, and there were many improvers.
In the closing parts of the session, Prost marginally improved to 1:39.649, but
Hill timed his last burst to perfection, bettering Alain by 0.5s to post a
1:38.963. Senna re-emerged again, and quickly sliced down to a 1:42.784,
and then improved again to 1:42.127. Berger was on the limit in his Ferrari,
looking very much like he had spent too much time watching Alesi!! His time was
a very impressive 1:40.853, and I think the Ferrari management will be very
happy with that!
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| 24.78 | Monaco Q2 report | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat May 22 1993 19:11 | 125 |
| From: [email protected]
Subject: F1: Monaco GP Q2 report
We joined 2 minutes into the session, and the only car on the track was
that of Rubens Barrichello. The day was bright, sunny and dry, implying
that the times from Thursday were rendered meaningless. The Jordan was
swiftly followed onto the track by the Williams of Alain Prost, the
Frenchman clearly eager to get a time in the bank as quickly as possible
while the track was clear.
The Williams cars were still carrying the "BIG WING (tm) :-)" at the rear.
Prost was quickly into his stride, traching the 1st split point in 27.503s,
the 2nd split in 47.507s, for a lap of 1:25.460. He then improved over the
next lap, with split times of -1.7s and -2.8s for a time of 1:21.291, and
a final flyer worth -0.370, -0.594, and 1:20.557. Satisfied, he then backed off
and went into the pits. In the morning warmup, Prost had been quickest, with
the Sauber of Karl Wendlinger second to him. The conditions had been similar to
these. Wendlinger repeated this feat now, albeit 4s behind the Williams
driver.
10 mins into the session, the track was starting to get busy. Herbert,
Barichello and Badoer were also running by now. Lotus also posessed the "BIG
WING (tm)", although Herbert was struggling to get within 3s of his qualifying
time from last year. John Watson put this down to the problems the team were
having getting to grips with their fully active suspension system. Senna now
joined the circuit, with heavy strapping in his right thumb, and in considerable
discomfort from the injured tongue he bit in his Thursday accident.
After one warmup lap, Senna then let rip. His 1st split time was +0.731, his
2nd was +1.1s, for a time of 1:22.9??. Riccardo Patrese was also out now, and
was looking good. His 1st split was +0.581, 2nd +0.980. Unfortunately, he was
baulked by Eric Comas. Patrese had been faster than Schumacher in the morning
warmup, and was demonstrating his commitment again. Looking smooth, he
continued, reaching the 1st split at +0.650, 2nd split at +1.1s. Again he was
held up, this time by JJ Lehto, and his time was 1:23.902. The circuit was by
now awash with cars, and every was tripping over everybody else. In fact,
the two Saubers almost tripped over each other at the Mirabeau corner, and it
was more luck than judgement that we didn't see a flying car!
Senna was still circulating, and unseen by us, had sliced down to 1:21.552.
This was faster than he had been in the morning warmup. Patrese set off again,
and this one was better - 1st split +0.402, 2nd split 1.098, for 1:22.479.
This placed his 3rd, and he then backed off and went into the pits.
[This is worth a paragraph on its own!!] Alesi came out of the pits, and we
held our breaths. Would there be anything left of the circuit when he
finished? His commitment was awesome (as always), and he never seemed to be
pointing in the right direction. Somehow, though, he made it round, and went
3rd with a 1:22.309, which he improved to a 1:21.948. Still running.
Hill now emerged, 20 mins into the session. In the morning, the left rear
lower wishbone had boken under braking out of the tunnel (how convenient!;-(
and he had spun, sliding up the slip road, fortunately without hitting
anything. Now, he tried to go for pole. 1st flyer: Split 1, +0.9s, split2
+1.892, for a 1:24.660. Next lap S1 +0.52, S2 +0.751 for 1:22.552. Once more,
S1 -0.004, but he lost loads of time through the tunnel, with S2 +.0456, and
1:21.873 over the line for 3rd. Next lap, he improved to 1:21.825, and then
backed off. Schumacher was now up and running, and he went second with a
1:21.531. On the half-hour, the order was Prost, Schumacher, Senna, Hill,
Alesi.
"Our Mike" came out. He took a warmup lap, and then went for it, but was almost
immediately held up by a Footwork. McLaren were still running their normal
rear wings. His S1 was +3.384, S2 +5.236 for 1:28.646. This placed him 25th!
He improved on the next lap, but we didn't see it because Senna now emerged
again. He wanted pole, and he was jolly well going to give it a good go!
His 1st flyer was a 1:25.598, but he then found himself with a clear track,
took a deep breath, and pushed. S1 was +0.335, S2 1.001, time 1:22.445. The
very next lap was visibly quicker. He was on the ragged edge through Ste
Devote, and through Casino Square, he was millimeteres away from the armco.
It was effective, though, because his S1 was a sensational -0.126, and his S2
was +0.039. However, he pushed too hard, and lost it out of the tunnel under
braking for the chicane. His McLaren turned right, broke off the right front
wing endplate against the armco, then spun through 180deg as it slid up the
escape road. No other damage was sustained, but his session sadly ended there.
With 16 mins left, Damon came out again. He had 5 laps left out of his quota
of 12, and his 1st time was 1:21.95?. On the next lap, his S1 was -0.013, but
again he lost lots of time in the tunnel for an S2 of +.0514. He was the held
up by a Larrousse, for a 1:22.???. "Our Mike" was pusshing a bit harder now,
and got into the top 10 with a 1:22.994 for 9th place. Good work. Both he
and Hill were still trying, but a combination of traffic and mistakes
prevented them from improving. Andretti then lost his car at exactly the same
place as Senna, in exactly the same way as Senna, under braking for the
chicane, out of the tunnel with 13 mins to go. The order now was Prost,
Schumacher, Senna, Hill, Alesi, Berger, Wendlinger, Patrese, Andretti, Comas.
Alesi was out again. I don't know what was more frightening - watching his
progress from outside the car, or being on-board as he wrestled the reluctant
Ferrari round the course. He improved his time to 1:22.071. The guy drives as
though the armco isn't there. It is quite incredible! Many times during *each*
lap, he would approach a corner all crossed up go through the corner virtually
sideways, and leave the corner microns away from barriers, his car bucking
and fishtailing wildly as he stood on the accelerator. His hands, at his
favourite five to one position, saw frantically at the wheel, but somehow, it
is all effective, and he does the job. Quite extraordinary!
With 7 mins left, both Prost and Lehto came out, as did Patrese. Lehto was
looking good on his flyer, with an S1 of +.0448, and an S2 of 1.226. However,
as he rounded the swimming pool complex, he let the car get away from him and
clipped the outside wall with his left rear, which put him out. Patrese,
unseen by us, improved to 6th. Alesi got into 5th place, and then went into
the pits. Schumacher was getting close to pole with a 1:21.190, and that's what
forced Prost to come out and defend his time. The Frenchman came close with
a 1:20.600 just as the chequered flag flew to end the session. The final
order was then
Prost
Schumacher
Senna
Hill
Alesi
Patrese
Berger
Wendlinger
Andretti
Comas
Lehto
Warwick
Brundle
Herbert
Alliot
Barrichello
Fittipaldi
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| 24.79 | Senna steals another one... | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun May 23 1993 21:06 | 85 |
| From: [email protected] (JULIAN LINDEN, UPI Sports Writer)
Subject: Senna wins Monaco Grand Prix
Date: Sun, 23 May 93 11:57:55 PDT
MONTE CARLO, Monaco (UPI) -- Brazilian Ayrton Senna regained the lead
in the world Formula One drivers' championship with a remarkable record-
breaking victory in Sunday's Monaco Grand Prix.
Senna, who won the showpiece race for the fifth successive year and
sixth time overall to surpass the late Graham Hill's tally of five wins
in the principality, drove his McLaren Ford to the checkered flag ahead
of Damon Hill and Jean Alesi. His task was alleviated when chief rivals
Alain Prost and Michael Schumacher both ran into trouble.
Prost, who had started from the pole position for the sixth
successive time this season and was favorite to win the race, finished
an unlucky fourth after his Williams Renault stalled in the pits early
in the race.
The Frenchman, who had led the championship by two points before the
race, was called into the pits on lap 11 after surging more than 12
seconds ahead of Schumacher to serve a 10 second penalty for jumping the
start.
But just when he was about to rejoin the race his engine stalled and
he spent more than two minutes trying to restart. He returned to the
circuit in 21st position but had lost any real chance of catching the
leaders on the tight Monte Carlo street circuit, which is notoriously
difficult to pass on.
``I feel very disappointed as I'm not sure whether I really jumped
the start but I am not really complaining,'' Prost said. ``I have to
accept what happened but I think a 10 second penalty is severe in Monaco
where overtaking is so limited.''
Prost's misfortune paved the way for Schumacher to try and add to his
one career Grand Prix success, but the 24-year-old German was forced to
abandon his Benetton Ford on lap 33 when the engine failed.
Schumacher, whose lone Formula One victory was in last year's Belgian
Grand Prix, had opened up a 15 second gap on Senna when he retired, but
he remains optimistic about the remainder of the season.
``Despite the obvious disappointment of retiring while leading, I'm
happy with what we have been able to achieve this weekend,'' he said.
``We were just unlucky towards the end of the race.
``I had been able to stay on the pace of the Williams and ahead of
McLaren -- which means a big improvement for us. Now we know that in the
next few races, we will be competitive.''
Prost's teammate Damon Hill, making his first race appearance at
Monaco, inherited second place but was unable to pull closer to the
Brazilian, who completed the 78 lap, 161.298 mile journey in 1 hour 52
minutes 10.947 seconds at an average speed of 86.269 mph.
Senna, who has now won six of the last seven Monaco Grands Prix and a
total of 39 career races, leads the championship standings with 42
points. Prost is next with 37, Hill has 18 and Schumacher 14.
He admitted, however, that he was more interested in savoring success
than worrying about the title race.
``Monaco is so special to me. From my very first podium, through to
my six victories,'' he said. ``When I couldn't make the front row of the
grid, I knew I'd be in for a very tough race.
``Prost jumped the start, perhaps in desperation to get to the first
corner. After that I wanted him to make a pit stop, for whatever reason.
Things went my way but I did have a plan and I stuck to it.''
Hill elected to settle for second position and eased off the pace in
the later stages but Gerhard Berger of Austria made a desperate bid to
overtake the 32-year-old Briton.
Berger tried to pass Hill on lap 70 around the hairpin but misjudged
his line and slammed into the side of Hill and had to retire from the
race.
``He (Berger) saw an opportunity to go past me at the hairpin and I
had no choice there but to close the door,'' Hill said. ``It is 30 years
since my father's first victory here and I am sure he would have been
the first to have congratulated Ayrton on breaking his record of five
wins.
``Myself, I am thankful to Williams for giving me a car capable of
finishing second. I had not finished the last two races and I was
determined to finish today. I drove a conservative race and it paid off.
''
Berger's late departure allowed his French teammate Alesi to clinch
his first podium finish of the season.
Christian Fittipaldi of Brazil drove his Minardi Ford into fifth
place and Martin Brundle of Britain claimed a championship point with
sixth place in the Ligier Renault.
Rookie driver Rubens Barrichello of Brazil, celebrating his 21st
birthday, recorded his best career finish when he piloted his Jordan
Hart into ninth position while Senna's American teammate Michael
Andretti survived a difficult start to climb back from 25th place to 8th
and complete his first Monaco Grand Prix.
``Michael is still making mistakes but he drove a gritty race and
he'll come good,'' McLaren boss Ron Dennis said.
The seventh round of the 16 race championship is the Canadian Grand
Prix in Montreal June 13.
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| 24.80 | Monaco results | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun May 23 1993 21:09 | 56 |
| From: [email protected] (United Press International)
Subject: Auto Racing Results
Date: Sun, 23 May 93 12:25:05 PDT
Monaco Formula One Grand Prix
At Monte Carlo, Monaco, May 23
78 laps (161.298 miles)
1. Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 1 hour 52 minutes 10.947
seconds (average speed: 86.269 mph)
2. Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault, 1:53:03.065
3. Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 1:53:14.309
4. Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 1 lap behind
5. Christian Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, at 2 laps
6. Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, at 2 laps
7. Alessandro Zanardi, Italy, Lotus Ford, at 2 laps
8. Michael Andretti, United States, McLaren Ford, at 2 laps
9. Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan, at 2 laps
10. Andrea de Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha, at 2 laps
11. Fabrizio Barbazza, Italy, Minardi Ford, at 3 laps
12. Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse Lambourghini, at 3 laps
13. Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, at 4 laps
14. Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, at 8 laps
Did not finish
Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, completed 61 laps
Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, at 53 laps
Erik Comas, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, at 51 laps
Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork Mugen-Honda, at 46 laps
Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen-Honda, at 43 laps
Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, at 32 laps
Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell Yamaha, at 31 laps
Michele Alboreto, Italy, BMS Lola Ferrari, at 28 laps
J.J. Lehto, Finland, Sauber, at 23 laps
Thierry Boutsen, Belgium, Jordan Hart, at 12 laps
Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, at 3 laps
Did not qualify
Luca Badoer, Italy, BMS Lola Ferrari
(Fastest lap: Prost: lap 52, 1:23.604 (average speed: 89.045 mph).
Formula One World Championship Standings
1, Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 42 points. 2, Alain
Prost, France, Williams Renault, 37. 3, Damon Hill, Britain, Williams
Renault, 18. 4, Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 14. 5 (tie),
Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, and Johnny Herbert, Britain,
Lotus Ford, 6.
7 (tied, J.J. Lehto, Finland, Sauber, Riccardo Patrese, Italy,
Benetton Ford, Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, and Christian
Fittapaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, 5.
11, Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 4. 12 (tie), Fabrizio Barbazza,
Italy, Minardi Ford, Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse Lamborghini,
Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, and Michael Andretti, United States,
McLaren Ford, 2. 16, Alessandro Zanardi, Italy, Lotus Ford, 1.
Constructors Championship
1, Williams Renault, 55 points. 2, McLaren Ford, 44. 3, Benetton
Ford, 19. 4, Ligier Renault, 11. 5 (tie), Lotus Ford, and Minardi Ford,
7. 7, Ferrari, 6. 8, Sauber, 5. 9, Larrousse Lamborghini, 2.
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| 24.81 | Michael at Monaco | TKOVOA::THOMPSON | Roger Thompson coming to you from Tokyo | Mon May 24 1993 10:33 | 10 |
| I saw that Michael finished 8th at Monaco, but what was the best
poistion he achieved before the Berger incident in the hair pin?
and; easy question for you F1 buffs...
What is the 'special traction' (translated from Japanese) that Schumacher
was said to have in the Monaco race? I assume other drivers have it?
Roger
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| 24.82 | | ADSERV::PW::WINALSKI | Careful with that AXP, Eugene | Mon May 24 1993 20:45 | 11 |
| RE: .81
They are talking about traction control. The usual system works by monitoring
the rotation of the axle and, when it's detected that the wheel is about to
start slipping, the system cuts spark to one cylinder of the engine, thus
reducing torque and maintaining static friction. McLaren, Williams, and
Ferrari all have had traction control systems for a while now (Mansell says
that he used such a system while he was at Ferrari). Benetton used traction
control for the first time this year at Monaco.
--PSW
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| 24.83 | F-1 The Exhaust Sound '92 Compact Disc | ASDG::ZETTERLUND | | Wed May 26 1993 09:04 | 34 |
| F-1 The Exhaust Sound '92 Compact Disc
I had read either in this or the CARS_UK notesfile that audio CD recordings of
the Japanese GP were available. On a recent visit to Japan I picked up a CD of
the 1992 race. It wasn't cheap, 2800 Yen (~$25.50), but it has 53 minutes and
41 seconds of well recorded sound from both practice sessions, both qualifying
sessions, the warm-up, and the race. The CD is titled, "F-1 THE EXHAUST SOUND
'92". It's produced by Virtual Audio on the Pony Canyon label; the catalog
number is PCCB-00105. The tracks are:
1. Opening - music and narration 4m12s
2. Friday Practice - Spoon Curve 6m23s
3. Friday Qual - 1st Corner 6m32s
4. Friday Qual - 130R Straight 2m49s
5. Navigation 1 - music and narration 3m58s
6. Saturday Practice - Pits 6m17s
7. Saturday Qual - S-Corner 4m48s
8. Saturday Qual - Back Stretch 2m41s
9. Navigation 2 - music and narration 2m56s
10. Warm-up - Chicane 4m10s
11. Warm-up - Hairpin Curve 5m17s
12. Welcome to the Show - narration 3m30s
13. Race a. Main Stand 5m30s
b. Spoon Curve 4m20s
c. Main Stand 4m54s
14. Ending - music and narration 4m48s
The "jacket" lists the order that the cars come past the microphones on each
track. The recording has a very wide dynamic range and you have to increase
the volume setting in increments. I'm not sure I have enough power in my
system (200W/channel to the satellites and 1000W to the subwoofer) to produce
realistic sound levels (painful with ear plugs) but I'm working up to it.
Bjorn.
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| 24.84 | 33 years ago.... | FLASHE::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Wed May 26 1993 10:39 | 5 |
| I have an album of the 1959 Sebring (12 hours?) that is basically done
the same way. I bought it for $1 and just the cover was worth it - a
full color closeup of a Ferrari V12!
Dave
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| 24.85 | Unlimitted Fuel? | TKOVOA::THOMPSON | Roger Thompson coming to you from Tokyo | Thu May 27 1993 11:30 | 7 |
| I'm a long time IndyCar fan, and this year I am following F1. I am
curious about the fuel regulations. How much fuel are F1 cars allowed
to carry? Is there any limit? They don't seem to pit for fuel, only
tires (or should I say tyres?) :)
Roger
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| 24.86 | clearing the cobwebs | FLASHE::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Thu May 27 1993 12:19 | 10 |
| Some numbers pop to mind
220 litres
195 litres
180 litres
Maybe they were stepped down reduction in the fuel limit a few years ago.
Or maybe not......
Dave
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| 24.87 | | ADSERV::PW::WINALSKI | Careful with that AXP, Eugene | Thu May 27 1993 13:01 | 10 |
| RE: .85
Refuelling is not allowed in F1. This is for safety--unlike IndyCars, where
you have only 5 nomex-clad pit workers, in F1 you have these mobs of guys in
Bermuda shorts working on the cars. A pit lane fire would be disasterous. I
don't know if they have a fuel limit. You want to carry the minimum amount of
fuel that will get you all the way through the race, in any event, to keep car
weight down. So the situation is pretty much self regulating.
--PSW
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| 24.88 | When Men were crazy | NARCEL::dave | Ahh, but fortunately, I have the key to escape reality. | Thu May 27 1993 18:34 | 28 |
| I used to work at the F1 race in Canada as a Fireman in Pit Lane,
back when men were men, B.E walked arround in the pits smoking his cigar,
and there were thousands of liters of petrol getting dumped into cars.
One particular memory was of a "fuel guy" pumping the tanks full by hand
just before a race (to make sure there was the absolute max in the tank),
spilling lots of fuel on the ground, and in general not caring about it.
The thing that made this really stand out was that he was smoking a cigarette
the whole time!
Also, I remember putting out 5 or 6 car fires in the pits one year, and I was
only one of 6 or so "equiped" pitlane firemen (full fire gear all weekend long).
Lots and lots of fires.
Back then, it was the "old" pit lanes, and the only reason I went back after
the first year was the start of the race.
When the cars gridded, they made everybody clear out of pit lane for the start
itself, except the six of us, who were just over the "armco" from the grid,
that area where the pit boards were hung out for the drivers to see. If there
was an accident at the start, we were there to put out the fires and help the
drivers. Even with the chase car, we were "already there", and could act
lots quicker. Well, it was a very, very exciting place to watch the race from,
espically the start. We could also just stroll up to the Lotus pits and have
a peek at the very nice T&S system they had and have an "instant" race summary
any time we were interested.
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| 24.89 | more or less is safer? | TKOVOA::THOMPSON | Roger Thompson coming to you from Tokyo | Mon Jun 07 1993 00:52 | 9 |
| re: .87 (no refueling for safety)
That's odd. CART limits fuel tanks to 40 gallons (causing more fuel pit
stops) for the same reason -- safety. CART figures less fuel, in case of
impact is safer. Overall fuel restrictions at Indy (280 gallons I
think) cause drivers to conserve fuel and effectively reduce horse power.
I presume speed and distance are factors that contribute to opposite
conclusions about what is safe.
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| 24.90 | 1993 F1 Season | STRATA::SALZMANN | | Thu Jun 24 1993 12:54 | 6 |
| Even though the season is already rolling, I was wondering if
some kind soul could post the remaining 1993 F1 schedule.
Thanks!!
Jeff
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| 24.91 | here it is (from 931.19) | FLASHE::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Thu Jun 24 1993 13:28 | 9 |
| July 4: France (Magny-Cours)
July 11: Britain (Silverstone)
July 25: Germany (Hockenheim)
August 15: Hungary (Hungaroring, Budapest)
August 29: Belgium (Spa-Francorchamps)
Sept. 12: Italy (Monza)
Sept. 26: Portugal (Estoril)
Oct. 24: Japan (Suzuka)
Nov. 7: Australia (Adelaide)
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| 24.92 | Magny-Cours F1 Race | STRATA::SALZMANN | | Wed Jun 30 1993 12:54 | 4 |
| Anybody have any idea what the qualification times
are for Sunday's race??
Jeff
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| 24.93 | Have to wait a few days.... | TFH::JROGERS | | Wed Jun 30 1993 13:44 | 2 |
| Qualifying happens on Friday and Saturday afternoons....
|
| 24.94 | senna out/hakkinen in?? | SOLVIT::PLATT | | Wed Jun 30 1993 17:52 | 6 |
| Recent European rumor as McLaren replacing Senna with Hakkinen due to
Senna's not being able to make up his mind. Stay tuned for more
details if any are forthcoming.
Barb
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| 24.95 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Wed Jun 30 1993 18:20 | 4 |
| As well as Rothmans coming on board as sponsor for Williams in '94 and '95, but
that's for another topic...
Dave
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| 24.96 | various F1 bits from the Motoring News | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Thu Jul 01 1993 14:12 | 112 |
| From: [email protected] (A.H. Henry)
Subject: F1: Ford Engine Politics
[from the Motoring News ]
Ford might reduce its support for its works F1 team for next year.
According to one source, they would still sell engines, but Benetton
would have to pay for them "just like McLaren is having to this year."
At the end of last year Ford is said to have given serious
consideration to buying itself out of its existing contracts.
Steve Parker, Ford's F1 Programme manager was not available for
comment, but a spokesman gave an unofficial comment on Monday:
"... I personally don't think it's correct that Ford
would pull out. It already has a contract in place with
Benetton for 1994, and I definitely know that Ford plans
to honour any such agreement."
"Every three years there is a review of Formula One involvement;
Ford almost pulled out in 1972, again in 1978 and 1982. There
is a constant need to justify the programme, which is how it
should be today with the added pressure of the world economy.
And FOCA isn't making it any easier for manufacturers, either."
During the Silverstone test, McLaren and Benetton were plagued
by engine problems. Patrese had two engines fail, and Schumacher
needed another to be changed.
McLaren was trying the Ford HB Series VII engine in two cars, one of
which had a twin injector induction system, developed by TAG, which
was supposed to give improved torque and power. Cosworth is working
on a similar but separate project for Benetton using the heads from
the Indycar XB engine.
McLaren designer Neil Oatley said, "The Series VII is certainly a step
in the right direction, but its not an instant answer to Williams."
Schumacher is thought to have tried the "Series VIII" engine at
Silverstone. Quoting from the Motoring News report:
"Racing Director Dick Scammell was present that afternoon,
and merely smiled and raised his eyebrows when it was
suggested that Schumacher's engine sounded very different
to Patrese's. Whatever he was running it had a much more
gutteral sound. He is believed to have set his best time
with this unit."
If Benetton race the Series VIII engine, McLaren will get the
Series VII units. However, it is possible that Benetton will try
to veto this for a bit. This is because the gap in performance
between the engines used by McLaren and the Series VII is bigger
than the difference between Series VII and VIII.
According to a cynic at Silverstone, "Whether Benetton can do
that depends on whose lawyer you talk to. But if you ask me
Flavio Briatore is playing a high stakes poker game."
Geoff Goddard, a designer at Cosworth said last week,
"The different teams working for projects for Benetton and McLaren
work in separate cells. We dedicate different teams to the work.
All of the advanced electronic systems work in our engine - Ford's
own EEC IV, TAG's, Marelli's and Bosch's, and they are all pretty
similar. But TAG is pushing the frontier on scale and weight, for
example. The engine doesn't know the difference; it only wants a
spark and fuel and away it goes. There's no direct advantage
necessarily but it's an open contest on the gizmo front."
Williams had "just a normal test" according to designer Adrian Newey.
Damon Hill had to drive a total of 693 miles to get an uninterupted
full race distance. Both cars ran ABS all the time and this will
be used at Magny Cours this weekend.
Lotus had some subtle revisions to the front suspension which were
thought to be definite improvements, the best made so far in 1993.
Times from Silverstone
Hill 1m 20.27s Wed
Schumacher 1m 21.73s Thur
Prost 1m 21.83s Thur
Hakkinen 1m 22.61s Wed
Andretti 1m 22.83s Thur
Patrese 1m 22.96s Thur
Herbert 1m 23.37s Wed
Barrichello 1m 23.69s Wed
Zanardi 1m 24.17s Wed
Warwick 1m 24.21s Thur
Suzuki 1m 24.97s Thur
Boutsen 1m 25.27s Thur
Katayama 1m 25.29s Wed
Naspetti 1m 25.35s Wed
Montermini 1m 25.89s Tue
de Cesaris 1m 26.42s Thur
Ferrari had a good test at Barcelona. Berger damaged a car after
25 laps on Thursday. On the Friday and Saturday they tried 120
laps with a much simpler active suspension system. They chose
Barcelona because their car was so bad on the fast sweeping bends
at the Spanish GP. Berger did 1m 25.2s with 100 litres of fuel
compared to their best in the race of 1m 26.8s. Alesi tried the
new suspension at Fiorano on Monday. On Tuesday, Larini started
distance trials of a modified 60 valve engine intended for the
French and British GP's. This might be replaced with a 48 valve
engine by Germany or Hungary.
Sauber tested tyres and a revised engine spec at Monza. Lehto's attempt
at a race distance with the new engine (the Ilmor 2175B) was thwarted
"when a suspected fauly cylinder liner caused coolant loss." Is this a
euphemism for "the engine exploded, causing coolant loss" :)
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| 24.97 | John Watson on the French GP | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Thu Jul 01 1993 14:13 | 132 |
| From: [email protected] (Andrew W Payton)
Subject: F1 - John Watson on French GP
>From BBC CEEFAX
JOHN WATSON PREVIEWS THE
FRENCH GP, Magny Cours
The eighth round of the FIA Formula
One world championship takes place
on Sunday at Magny Cours, France,
the spiritual home of GP racing.
The race will be 72 laps, three
more than 1992, and is the midway
point of the 1993 championship.
The Canadian GP three weeks ago
confirmed Alain Prost really is on
course for a fourth world crown.
He illustrated a supremacy and
style in that victory which brings
him to his home Grand Prix brimming
with confidence.
Any challenge to Alain Prost in
Sunday's race will come from within
his own Williams Renault team.
But Damon Hill is well aware of
being a member of a team and his
responsibilities as such could
result in him playing a back-up
role in an unspoken team strategy.
Magny-Cours will suit the Williams
Renault team in all respects.
One long straight, corners where
their aerodynamics will be an
advantage and slow sections where
the phenomenal acceleration of the
V10 will leave everyone gasping.
On paper the battle of Magny Cours
will be for third place - with
McLaren, Benetton and Ferrari being
the protagonists.
For McLaren it will be the last
race using the customer based
Series 5 Ford HB engine.
For Benetton it is a chance to
capitalise on being the quicker of
the two leading Ford engined teams.
For Ferrari, and Jean Alesi in
particular, it is an opportunity on
a billiard smooth surface to
confirm further progress.
This race is also a key race for
the teams that we don't see so
often at the front.
Footwork, Tyrrell - racing the new
021 for the first time - Jordan and
the BMS Lola are all fighting
relegation from the top ten teams.
The penalty you pay for this is
that you literally don't get paid.
Any one of the four teams that
scores even a point at Magny-Cours
could salvage itself for the second
part of the '93 season and looking
forward to Japan and Australia is a
strong motivation.
Three weeks ago stewards in Canada
issued a press release regarding
the legality of several cars in
respect of traction control and
active suspension.
I'm sure the same issues will be
raised this weekend at Magny Cours,
though it's very unlikely any
penalties will be imposed.
The subject is a major headache for
FISA and will not be clarified
until July 15 - the date of their
next World Council meeting.
The result of the meeting may make
the German GP a lawyer's dream.
On a much lighter note, Eddie
Jordan has accepted an invitation
to drive in the French round of the
Porsche Super Cup.
His team are battling for their
first World Championship points but
he will take time off to drive as a
guest in the Porsche Carrera 2.
The last time a Formula One
personality drove this car was in
Monaco where Mika Hakkinen won.
I'm sure the Jordan Grand Prix
drivers - Rubens Barrichello and
Thierry Boutsen - will be watching
with amusement.
M/SPORT: NEWS IN
BRIEF
Formula One team Ferrari have
extended the contract of driver
Jean Alesi by two years.
The news is expected to put an end
to the rumours that Brazilian ace
Ayrton Senna may join the Italian
team next year.
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| 24.98 | Bored?? Answer this :-) | STRATA::SALZMANN | | Thu Jul 01 1993 16:59 | 5 |
| Here's one for somebody with a lot of time to type....
What are the names, colors, and names of the cars for this
year's F1 crowd?
Jeff
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| 24.99 | spiritual home?? | RACER::dave | Ahh, but fortunately, I have the key to escape reality. | Thu Jul 01 1993 17:32 | 6 |
| > on Sunday at Magny Cours, France,
> the spiritual home of GP racing.
Since when is Magny Cours the spiritual home of ANYTHING?
Maybe JW should read a history book or two.
|
| 24.100 | | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Thu Jul 01 1993 17:41 | 20 |
| Re: Note 931.98 by STRATA::SALZMANN
> Here's one for somebody with a lot of time to type....
> What are the names, colors, and names of the cars for this
> year's F1 crowd?
Why do I get the feeling that this note is related to 944.3? ;^)
Note 944.3 by STRATA::SALZMANN
> -< More Microprose... >-
>
> There
> is also a patch that allows you to edit teams, colors, and
> driver skill.
Rest assured there are other yahoos like you out there, modifying
their games right down to the individual helmet colors. Though I
wish I was one of them, I am PC-less. There's an Internet mailing
list for the game -- I'll place a pointer in 944.
|
| 24.101 | | ADSERV::PW::WINALSKI | Careful with that AXP, Eugene | Thu Jul 01 1993 19:12 | 9 |
| RE: .99
Magny Cours is the spiritual home of the Ligier team, for whatever that's
worth.
I think John Watson was referring to France, not Magny Cours, as being the
spiritual home of F1. I think it's England, myself.
--PSW
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| 24.102 | Hill on provisional pole at Magny Cours | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Fri Jul 02 1993 17:48 | 76 |
| From: [email protected] (Andrew W Payton)
Subject: F1 - Friday Qual.
MOTOR RACING: FRENCH
GRAND PRIX, Magny Co
Britain's Damon Hill outpaced
Williams teammate Alain Prost to
set the fastest time in the first
practice session for Sunday's race.
The 32-year-old clocked 1 min
15.051 secs, seven tenths of a
second quicker than Prost, the
current championship leader.
"I really enjoy circuits like this
with quick corners and a good
surface," Hill said afterwards.
Michael Schumacher recorded the
third best time, just ahead of
Prost's maU>ud rdt Ayrton Senna.
FIA FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Friday's qualifying times:
mins secs
1 D Hill GB Williams 1:15.051
2 A Prost Fr Williams 1:15.725
3 M Schumacher Ger Benetton 1:16.720
4 A Senna Brz Mclaren 1:16.782
5 J Alesi It Ferrari 1:16.825
6 M Blundell GB Ligier 1:16.834
7 M Brundle GB Ligier 1:16.847
8 R Bar'chello Brz Jordan 1:17.347
9 A Suzuki Jpn Footwork 1:17.441
10 K W'linger Aut Sauber 1:17.650
11 R Patrese It Benetton 1:17.675
12 J Herbert GB Lotus 1:17.862
13 E Comas Fr Larrousse 1:18.180
14 P Alliot h?L4<Z4L rrousse 1:18.230
15 A Zanardi Brz Lotus 1:18.331
16 M Andretti US McLaren 1:18.585
17 T Boutsen Bel Jordan 1:18.685
18 G Berger Aut Ferrari 1:18.741
19 D Warwick GB Footwork 1:19.180
20 JJ Lehto Fin Sauber 1:19.252
21 C Fittipaldi Brz Minardi 1:19.968
22 U Katayama Jap Tyrrell 1:20.553
23 A De Cesaris It Tyrrell 1:21.024
24 F Barbazza It Minardi 1:21.113
25 L Badoer It Lola 1:21.931
26 M Alboreto It Lola 1:22.106
Damon Hill took one look at the
slow, flat Magny Cours track and
tipped Williams teammate Alain
Prost to win his sixth French GP.
Hill insists he has only a slim
chance on Sunday but will be
competing as hard as ever in
preparation for the following
weekend's British GP at Silverstone
"I'd much prefer to be driving
there. But I have to get on with
the job here, whatever I feel about
the track," he said.
"I can't s DwSMiSw satisfying
track to drive on," he added.
>Sorry for the odd corruption, the TV reception is quite poor today.
|
| 24.103 | pay _particular_ attention to the last 7 paragraphs... | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Fri Jul 02 1993 23:41 | 68 |
| From: [email protected] (JULIAN LINDEN, UPI Sports Writer)
Subject: Hill upstages Prost to take provisional pole
MAGNY-COURS, France (UPI) -- Damon Hill of Britain upstaged his
Williams Renault teammate and Formula One world championship leader
Alain Prost of France Friday to take provisional pole position for the
French Grand Prix Sunday.
Hill, a 32-year-old in just his first full season of Formula One,
lapped the 2.6-mile Circuit de Nevers-Magny-Cours in 1 minute, 15.051
seconds, threatening to deny Prost a record-tying eight successive pole
positions.
Local favorite Prost has won five French Grands Prix but has yet to
score at the Magny-Cours circuit which is host to its third Formula One
race. He completed just three laps in the morning's untimed practice
session because of a computer problem in his Williams Renault but
rallied to take second place during official qualifying with a clocking
of 1:15.725.
``I am obviously very pleased with the end result of first
qualifying,'' Hill said, ``but I must make the point I exploited the
advantage handed to me with him (Prost) not completing this morning's
session,'' Hill said.
``But I like this track, it has some quick corners and I shall see
what happens tomorrow.''
Michael Schumacher of Germany in the Benetton Ford was third in 1:16.
720, 0.062 seconds faster than McLaren Ford's Brazilian ace Ayrton
Senna, who set the all-time record of eight successive pole positions in
1988 and 1989.
Prost bettered Nigel Mansell's 1992 record of six straight pole
positions in one season when he was fastest in practice for the Montreal
Grand Prix last month.
Mansell, who quit Formula One for IndyCar after winning the 1992
world championship, holds the record of the most pole positions in a
single season with 14.
Hill, whose late father Graham was a two-time world champion, was
cautious about his chances of winning his first pole after having five
times this season started second behind his teammate.
Hill completed his best lap at an average speed of 126.674 mph. Final
qualifying takes place on Saturday.
``I am not disappointed by the time, in fact, I am quite happy with
my position,'' said the 38-year-old Prost. ``I was not quite happy with
the car but that is normal as I couldn't do any work this morning.''
Jean Alesi of France, who announced Wednesday he had re-signed with
Ferrari for a further two years, was fifth.
Senna's partner, American Formula One rookie Michael Andretti, could
only manage 16th place but said later he had experienced problems with
the grip of the car and expected to improve on his time Saturday.
The sport's ruling body, FISA, meanwhile, announced it had scheduled
an extraordinary meeting of the World Motor Sport Council to consider a
controversial report which suggests almost all the current cars breach
technical rules.
FISA president Max Mosley said the meeting, which will take place in
Paris on July 15 and 16, was called after a report by Technical Stewards
at the Canadian Grand Prix found that 24 of the 26 cars failed to meet
rules governing active suspension.
The cars were allowed to compete but a further report by French
stewards in Magny-Cours again revealed that all but two of the cars
failed to meet FISA regulations.
FISA also said it would investigate fuel analysis reports for several
cars from the San Marino, Spanish, Monaco and Canadian Grands Prix.
Mosley said FISA was unable to comment on the Stewards' report until
it had been examined by the World Council but he refused to rule out the
possibility that previous results this season could be endangered.
``That is an inescapable conclusion,'' he said. ``Nobody knows what
the World Council will decide about the report but the whole thing will
be resolved quickly and the decision will be fair.''
FISA said representatives of the teams concerned will be allowed to
make submissions at the meeting and could appeal to the independent FIA
International Court of Appeal in the event of an adverse decision.
|
| 24.104 | another Magny Cours Friday report... | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Jul 03 1993 00:50 | 59 |
| From: [email protected] (David Reininger)
Subject: Friday Qualifying France
MARLBORO RACING NEWS -- THE OFFICIAL INDYCAR NEWS SERVICE
=========================================================
French Grand Prix
Magny-Cours,
Friday, 2 July 1993
1st Qualifying Session
The Marlboro McLaren team has qualified, through Ayrton
Senna and Michael Andretti respectively, in 4th and 16th
place after the first day of official practice for the
French Grand Prix.
Ayrton Senna: "We had problems with the balance of the
car in the afternoon session. On my first set, when the
weather was less hot, the set-up wasn't quite right, and
we probably came on to the track a few minutes too late to
take advantage of the cooler weather. Later the track was
deteriorated and I wasn't able to exploit the slightly
better car set-up."
Michael Andretti: "I have had problems with the grip of
the car all afternoon. There was much understeer through
the fast corners and also problems in putting the power
down after the bends."
CAR BEST LAP AVERAGE
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR DESCRIPTION TIME LAP SPEED
---- --- ------ --------------- --------- --- -------
1 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'15.051 4 203.861 km/h
2 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'15.725 4 202.047
3 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'16.720 3 199.426
4 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'16.782 5 199.265
5 27 ALESI FER 1'16.825 5 199.154
6 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'16.834 2 199.131
7 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'16.847 3 199.097
8 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'17.347 3 197.810
9 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'17.441 3 197.570
10 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'17.650 4 197.038
11 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'17.675 10 196.975
12 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'17.862 5 196.502
13 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'18.180 2 195.702
14 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'18.230 9 195.577
15 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'18.331 3 195.325
16 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'18.585 4 194.694
17 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 1'18.685 6 194.446
18 28 BERGER FER 1'18.741 3 194.308
19 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'19.180 9 193.231
20 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'19.252 2 193.055
21 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'19.968 5 191.327
22 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'20.553 3 189.937
23 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'21.024 9 188.833
24 24 BARBAZZA MIN/FO 1'21.113 2 188.626
25 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'21.931 10 186.743
26 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 1'22.106 6 186.344
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| 24.105 | Hill on pole at Magny Cours | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Jul 03 1993 17:25 | 90 |
| From: [email protected] (JULIAN LINDEN, UPI Sports Writer)
Subject: Hill pips Prost for pole
MAGNY-COURS, France (UPI) -- British Formula One driver Damon Hill
Saturday refused to speculate on reports he was under orders to let
teammate Alain Prost win the French Grand Prix Sunday after edging the
Frenchman for the pole position.
Hill took a pole for the first time in his career when he lapped the
2.6-mile Nevers-Magny-Cours circuit in 1 minute and 14.382 seconds at an
average speed of 127.813 mph to deny Prost a record-tying eighth
straight pole. Brazilian Ayrton Senna, Prost's career-long arch-rival,
holds the record.
Prost, the only Frenchman ever to win the world drivers' season
championship, finished second with a fastest lap time of 1:14.542.
Britain's national newspapers Saturday reported Hill was under team
orders to let Prost win his sixth French Grand Prix and extend his lead
in the championship but both drivers were reluctant to speculate at
length.
``There are no team orders as far as I am aware,'' Hill said. ``If I
was to say there were team orders, I'd be giving things away.''
Prost won the first of his record 48 grands prix with a victory at
Dijon in France in 1981.
``If there are any team orders they will be made on Sunday just
before the race,'' he said. ``I'm not worrying about that at the moment.
''
``I am sad not to be on pole for my home Grand Prix but I tried my
best,'' the 38-year-old Frenchman said. ``I am not worried about not
being on pole. I have won four races this year and was not at the first
corner for any of them.''
McLaren Ford driver Senna, who set the record for the most successive
pole starts between 1988 and 1989, was relegated to fifth on the grid
after Britain's Ligier Renault teammates Martin Brundle and Mark
Blundell each claimed the best starting position of his career, taking
third and fourth respectively.
The improved performance by the two Britons ensured Renault-powered
cars filled the first four places on the grid for the start of the 72-
lap, 190-mile race, which is being held at Magny-Cours for just the
third time.
Former Williams Renault driver Nigel Mansell of Britain, who quit
Formula One for IndyCar after winning the 1992 world drivers'
championship, won the two previous races at the new circuit.
``It's a fantastic result for the team and my best ever qualifying
position,'' Blundell enthused. ``This justifies all the hard work. I
just hope we can maintain our positions until the end of the weekend.''
Jean Alesi of France, who announced Wednesday he had re-signed with
Ferrari for a further two years, leapfrogged Germany's Michael
Schumacher into sixth.
Schumacher was one of just three drivers who failed to better their
times from Friday's first qualifying session. He will start seventh on
the grid in the Benetton Ford.
Hill set his pole-winning time early in the one-hour qualifying
session Saturday but failed to improve when he returned to the track at
the end after clipping Italian Michele Alboreto.
Prost returned to a clear track with 15 minutes remaining and
bettered his earlier time on three occassions but couldn't reach Hill's
best effort.
``It's an advantage to be on pole especially with your teammate next
to you,'' said Hill, 32.
``Today I drove better in qualifying that I have for some time,
probabaly all year. I've been working on building up my confidence and
that comes from repeating your performance over and over again.''
From: [email protected] (Peter Georgeu)
Here is most of the grid for tomorrow's race:
1. Hill 1.14.382
2. Prost 1.14.524
3. Brundle 1.16.169
4. Blundell 1.16.203
5. Senna 1.16.264
6. Alesi 1.16.665
7. Schumacher 1.16.720
8. Barrichello 1.17.168
9. Comas 1.17.170
10. Alliot 1.17.190
11. Wendlinger 1.17.315
12. Patrese 1.17.362
13. Suzuki 1.17.441
14. Berger 1.17.456
15. Warwick 1.17.598
16. Andretti 1.17.659
17. Zanardi 1.17.706
18. Lehto 1.17.810
19. Herbert 1.17.863
20. Boutsen 1.17.997
21. Katayama 1.19.143
.....
....
DNQ Alboreto
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| 24.106 | Prost wins French GP | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Mon Jul 05 1993 09:38 | 130 |
| From: [email protected] (JULIAN LINDEN, UPI Sports Writer)
Subject: Prost wins his sixth French Grand Prix
MAGNY-COURS, France (UPI) -- Local hero Alain Prost tightened his grip
on the 1993 Formula One world drivers' championship Sunday with a
record-breaking sixth French Grand Prix victory.
Prost, the only Frenchman ever to win the world title, extended his
lead in the current championship to 12 points with his fifth victory
this season and the 49th of his career.
The 38-year-old Williams Renault pilot, who became the first driver
ever to win his national grand prix on six occassions, took the lead on
lap 26 of the 72 lap, 190.15 mile race and maintained his advantage
until the end before slowing down to finish just .342 seconds ahead of
his rapidly improving British teammate Damon Hill.
Michael Schumacher of Germany drove his Benetton Ford into third
place for his fourth podium finish of the season.
Former triple world champion Ayrton Senna of Brazil finished fourth,
ahead of Briton Martin Brundle in the Ligier Renault. Senna's McLaren
Ford teammate, Michael Andretti of the United States, finished in the
points for the second time in his rookie Formula One season when he took
sixth after starting 16th on the grid.
Prost's victory, which eclipsed former British world champion Jim
Clarke's five home wins, lifted his points total in the drivers'
championship to 57, ahead of Senna, 45, Hill, 28, and Schumacher, 22,
and keeps him in position to become just the second driver in the
history of Formula One to win four world crowns.
Prost previously won the world title in 1985, 1986 and 1989. Juan-
Manuel Fangio of Argentina won it five times between 1951 and 1957.
``It is important to win your home grand prix and this was a race I
did not want to lose,'' Prost said. ``The crowd showed their feelings
and I am very happy with this win. Damon showed fantastic form and it
was a very good weekend for the team with our first 1-2 of the year.''
Hill made the best of his first career pole position and led Prost
through the first 26 laps until surrendering the lead when he stopped
for fresh tires.
Prost remained on the Nevers-Magny-Cours circuit, which hosted the
French Grand Prix for just the third time, for another three laps before
changing tires and returned to the track less than a second in front of
Hill. He then held on easily for victory.
``I felt a win was possible for me,'' Hill said. ``The car was
fantastic in the race. There were a couple of things about my pit stop
that did not help me though.''
Prost's victory was his first at Magny-Cours. His previous French
wins were at Dijon-Prenois (1981) and at Le Castellet (1983, 1988, 1989
and 1990).
Williams Renault, which leads the constructors' championship by 37
points,finished 1-2 at Magny-Cours for the second successive year. Nigel
Mansell, the 1992 world champion, won both previous races at the
circuit.
Schumacher, who had been involved in a thrilling battle with Senna,
finally got the better of the Brazilian with just 10 laps remaining and
surged ahead to take third.
Senna, racing in his 150th grand prix, had climbed from fifth on the
grid to third after passing both Ligier Renaults which had surprisingly
qualified third and fourth.
Mark Blundell of Britain was under pressure from the outset and
exited from the race on lap 20 when he lost control of his Ligier
Renault and slid off the circuit. His departure allowed Senna and
Schumacher to catch Brundle and the pair inevitably overtook him to
fight out third.
``Ayrton and I have had some great battles on the track and this time
I think I was the winner of the fight, which obviously I'm quite happy
about,'' a delighted Schumacher said. ``All weekend I thought we were
quicker than the McLarens, apart from qualifying yesterday when we made
a mistake, but the good result is what counts.''
Andretti, whose first season in Formula One has been dogged by
problems, was thrilled with his sixth placing on American Independence
Day.
``It all came together for me on race day,'' he said. ``I
concentrated on racing and overtaking. My speed into some corners was
excellent and that helped me a lot on my way to my sixth place.''
The ninth round of the 16-race world championship is the British
Grand Prix which takes place at Silverstone July 11.
French Formula One Grand Prix
At Magny-Cours, France, July 4
72 laps. 190.15 miles
1. Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 1 hour 38 minutes
35.241 seconds. Average speed: 115.718 mph.
2. Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault, 1:38:35.583
3. Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 1:38:56.450
4. Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 1:39:07.646
5. Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:39:09.036
6. Michael Andretti, U.S., McLaren Ford, 1 lap behind
7. Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan Hart, at 1 lap
8. Christian Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, at 1 lap
9. Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, at 2 laps
10. Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, at 2 laps
11. Thierry Boutsen, Belgium, Jordan Hart, at 2 laps
12. Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork Mugen-Honda, at 2 laps
13. Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen-Honda, at 2 laps
14. Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, at 2 laps
15. Andrea de Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha, at 4 laps
16. Erik Comas, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, at 6 laps
Did not finish
17. Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, completed 47 laps
18. Luca Badoer, Italy, BMS Lola Ferrari, at 28 laps
19. Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, at 25 laps
20. JJ Lehto, Finland, Sauber, at 22 laps
21. Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, at 20 laps
22. Johhny Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, at 16 laps
23. Fabrazio Barbazza, Italy, Minardi Ford, at 16 laps
24. Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell Yamaha, at 9 laps
25. Alessandro Zanardi, Italy, Lotus Ford, at 3 laps
Did not qualify
Michele Alboreto, Italy, BMS Lola Ferrari
Fastest lap: Schumacher: Lap 47, 1 minute 19.256 seconds (119.953 mph).
World Formula One Championship Standings
1, Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 57 points. 2, Ayrton
Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 45. 3, Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault,
28. 4, Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 24. 5, Martin Brundle,
Britain, Ligier Renault, 9.
6 (tie), Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, and Johnny
Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, 6. 8 (tie), Gerhard Berger, Austria,
Ferrari, Christian Fittapaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, JJ Lehto, Finland,
Sauber, and Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, 5.
12, Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 4. 13, Michael Andretti, U.
S., McLaren Ford, 3. 14 (tie), Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse Lamborghini,
and Fabrizio Barbazza, Italy, Minardi Ford, 2. 16 (tied, Karl Wendlinger,
Austria, Sauber, and Alessandro Zanardi, Italy, Lotus Ford, 1.
Constructors' Championship
1, Williams Renault, 85 points. 2, McLaren Ford, 48. 3, Benetton
Ford, 29. 4, Ligier Renault, 15. 5, Ferrari, 9. 6 (tied, Lotus Ford,
and Minardi Ford, 7. 8, Sauber, 6. 9, Larrousse Lamborghini, 2.
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| 24.107 | Hahahahahahahahahahahaha | STRATA::SALZMANN | Don't mess with Texas | Mon Jul 12 1993 09:30 | 4 |
| Was I the only one who chuckled when Senna didn't cross the
finish line??
Jeff
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| 24.108 | | DELNI::CRITZ | Scott Critz, LKG2/1, Pole V3 | Mon Jul 12 1993 09:52 | 12 |
| I was kinda chuckling, too, but only because the commentators
couldn't tell me if he crossed or not. Then, they showed the
rundown of the finishers and no Senna.
On another note, what all this about exotic fuel and taking
win away from Williams/Prost, etc.
I felt real bad for Hill. Seemed like he was gonna win on
his home course and all. At first, I thought it was Prost's
engine, and then I saw the number. Too bad.
Scott
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| 24.109 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Mon Jul 12 1993 10:22 | 11 |
| Prost
Schumacher
Patrese
Herbert
Senna (no gas)
Warwick
Yes, too bad about Damon and it's getting a bit boring again although the battle
between Patrese, Herbert and Brundle was quite good.
Dave
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| 24.110 | | ADSERV::PW::WINALSKI | Careful with that AXP, Eugene | Tue Jul 13 1993 04:32 | 10 |
| RE: .108 (exotic fuel)
One of the items up for review at the upcoming FIA World Sporting Council is
what to do about the results of fuel testing undertaken after the Spanish GP.
Allegedly there are three cases where illegal fuel substances have been used.
Rumor is that one of the teams involved is Williams. It is possible that as
many as three of Prost's wins could be in jeopardy, if the FIA decided to
disqualify the Williams team for fuel violations.
--PSW
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| 24.111 | Space Cadet/F1 Pilot | STRATA::SALZMANN | Don't mess with Texas | Tue Jul 13 1993 09:36 | 2 |
| What was that I heard about one of the teams wearing gas masks
when they fueled their car??
|
| 24.112 | | ADSERV::PW::WINALSKI | Careful with that AXP, Eugene | Wed Jul 14 1993 20:12 | 6 |
| RE: .111
The Benetton team members were wearing gas masks when they fueled the car.
Some of those exotic fuel components are extremely toxic.
--PSW
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| 24.113 | Senna+Prost :== Hardened Criminals | STRATA::SALZMANN | Don't mess with Texas | Fri Jul 16 1993 12:08 | 7 |
| FISA has declared the active suspensions and traction
controls illegal. Williams and McLaren have threatened to
withdraw from the next two races.
Does anybody know more about this??
Jeff
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| 24.114 | | DELNI::CRITZ | Scott Critz, LKG2/1, Pole V3 | Fri Jul 16 1993 12:58 | 10 |
| I'd be more than a little upset if the governing body of X
came along and said, "Oh, by the way, you can't use Y any
more."
On the other hand, I'd like to see the F1 cars more alike
so that it would be more of a test of the drivers' skills.
I assume this has been discussed elsewhere?
Scott
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| 24.115 | the text of the FISA press release | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Fri Jul 16 1993 13:25 | 202 |
| From: [email protected] (Tom Haapanen)
Subject: F1: FISA press release
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 10:42:19 GMT
PRESS RELEASE
FROM THE
FEDERATION INTERNATIONALE DU SPORT AUTOMOBILE (FISA)
EXTRAORDINARY MEETING OF THE FISA WORLD MOTOR SPORT COUNCIL
The FISA World Motor Sport Council met in Paris on Thursday 15 July to
discuss the report of the 1993 Canadian Grand Prix Stewards relating to
the conformity of certain cars with the articles 1.3, 2.4 and 3.7 of the
FIA Formula One Technical Regulations.
After hearing the teams present, the World Council issued the attached
decision.
Paris, 15 July 1993
*****
SUSPENSION SYSTEMS
------------------
The FISA World Council has, today, considered the report of the Formula 1
Technical Delegate dated 12 June 1993 relating to the conformity of cars
number 0, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 23, 24, 27 and 28 with Article 3.7
of the FIA Formula 1 Technical Regulations at the Canadian Grand Prix.
Tyrrell Racing Organization Ltd., Camel Benetton Ford and Ferrari stated
that they accepted the Technical Delegate's report and took no further
part in the hearing.
Minardi Team SpA were absent.
Williams Grand Prix Engineering, McLaren International Ltd and Team Lotus
International Ltd contested the Technical Delegate's report and were heard.
McLaren International Ltd stated that the matters before the World Council
did not properly fall to be decided by it. No reasons for this view were
put forward.
Having heard all the parties, the World Council has come to the following
conclusion:
Sprung suspension is defined as "the means whereby all complete wheels are
suspended from the body/chassis unit by a spring medium" (Article 1.13, FIA
Formula 1 Technical Regulations).
All cars must be fitted with sprung suspension (Article 10.1). Any specific
part of the car influencing its aerodynamic performance must remain immobile
in relation to the sprung part of the car (Article 3.7).
By definition, a sprung suspension is mobile relative to the sprung part of
the car. It follows that in order to comply with Article 3.7, the suspen-
sion system must not be so arranged as to influence the aerodynamic perfor-
mance of the car. Indeed it must be so arranged that any effect which its
movement may have upon aerodynamic performance is wholly incidental to the
main purpose of the suspension system which is to insulate the body/chassis
unit and the driver for undulations in the road surface.
If the suspension system may not be so arranged as to influence aerodynamic
performance, still less may it incorporate devices which move relative to
the sprung part of the car which are externally controlled and whose sole
or main purpose is to exert an influence on the car's aerodynamic perfor-
mance.
All the suspension systems which have been examined by the World Council
incorporate parts which are deliberately moved in order to change the
distance of the car from the ground and/or the attitude or angle of the
car relative to the ground. It is not disputed that such changes have a
profound effect upon aerodynamic performance. Deliberate changes are
then the means by which aerodynamic performance is influenced.
It follows that, insofar as certain moving elements of the so-called
active suspension systems which we have considered today influence aero-
dynamic performance, they are contrary to Article 3.7. The question of
whether such systems are controlled automatically, electronically or by
the driver is not relevant. The only issue is whether the specific
parts which move, influence the aerodynamics, If they do, the systems
is contrary to the regulations.
The fact that certain practices which are contrary to the existing rules
may have become widespread or even established, cannot change the rules.
It is, however, a significant factor in the assessement of the penalty.
Accordingly we agree with the report of the Formula 1 Technical Delegate
dated 12 June, 1993 and confirm that cars number 0, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,
11, 12, 23, 24, 27 and 28 did not comply with the regulations at the
Canadian Grand Prix.
Having regard to the fact that such systems have been in use for some
time, that an increasing number of competitors have been developing and
fitting them and that no competitor has raised any objection to their
use, it would not be appropriate to exclude the cars concerned from the
results of the Event. Nor do we consider it necessary to consider
similar reports from the French and British Grands Prix because the
issues raised are the same.
However, from now on, and subject to any appeal, the regulations will be
rigorously enforced and cars which do not comply will not be allowed to
take part in an Event.
In order to give each competitor an opprotunity, under Article 152 of
the International Sporting Code, to appeal against this decision, we
impose a reprimand on Williams Grand Prix Engineering, McLaren Inter-
national Ltd, Team Lotus International Ltd, Tyrrell Racing Organization
Ltd, Camel Benetton Ford, Minardi Team SpA and Ferrari for using
suspension devices which are contrary to Article 3.7 of the FIA Formula
One Technical Regulations.
Paris, 15 July 1993
*****
PROPULSION SYSTEMS
------------------
The FISA World Council has, today, considered the report of the Formula 1
Technical Delegate dated 12 June 1993 relating to the conformity of cars
number 0, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14, 15, 19, 20, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28,
29 and 30 with the FIA Formula 1 Technical Regulations at the Canadian
Grand Prix.
Tyrrell Racing Organization Ltd., Camel Benetton Ford, Larrousse S.A.,
Ferrari and PP Sauber A.G. stated that they accepted the Technical
Delegate's report and took no further part in the hearing.
Footwork Grand Prix International Ltd, Jordan Grand Prix Ltd, and Minardi
Team SpA were absent.
Williams Grand Prix Engineering, McLaren International Ltd and Ligier
Gitanes Blondes contested the Technical Delegate's report and were heard.
McLaren International Ltd stated that the matters before the World Council
did not properly fall to be decided by it. No reasons for this view were
put forward.
Having heard all the parties, the World Council has come to the following
conclusion:
Article 1.3 of the FIA Formula 1 Technical Regulations provides that a
Formula 1 car must have a propulsion system which is under the control
of the driver aboard the vehicle. Article 2.4 provides that the cars
must comply with the regulations at all times during the Event.
The cars which are the subject of the FISA Formula 1 Technical Delegate's
report are fitted with traction control devices which are intended to
eliminate or reduce wheel spin during acceleration.
Traction control works by taking control of the engine and/or transmission
away from the driver and feeding a different amount of power to the rear
wheels to that ordered by the driver. The system comes into operation
when the driver calls for too much power. This may occur several times
on each lap as well as at the start.
As soon as the traction control system comes into operation, the driver
is no longer in control of the propulsion of the car. The car does not,
therefore, comply with the regulations at all times as required.
The fact that certain practices which are contrary to the existing rules
may have become widespread or even established, cannot change the rules.
It is, however, a significant factor in the assessement of the penalty.
We agree with the report of the Formula 1 Technical Delegate dated 12
June, 1993 and confirm that cars number 0, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10,
14, 15, 19, 20, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 and 30 did not comply with the
regulations at the Canadian Grand Prix.
Having regard to the fact that such systems have been in use for some
time, that an increasing number of competitors have been developing and
fitting them and that no competitor has raised any objection to their
use, it would not be appropriate to exclude the cars concerned from the
results of the Event. Nor do we consider it necessary to consider
similar reports from the French and British Grands Prix because the
issues raised are the same.
However, from now on, and subject to any appeal, the regulations will be
rigorously enforced and cars which do not comply will not be allowed to
take part in an Event.
In order to give each competitor an opprotunity, under Article 152 of
the International Sporting Code, to appeal against this decision, we
impose a reprimand on Williams Grand Prix Engineering, McLaren Inter-
national Ltd, Ligier Gitanes Blondes, Tyrrell Racing Organization Ltd,
Camel Benetton Ford, Footwork Grand Prix International, Ltd, Jordan
Grand Prix Ltd, Larrousse SA, Minardi Team SpA, Ferrari and PP Sauber
AG for using propulsion systems not under the control of the driver at
all times contrary to Articles 1.3 and 2.4 of the FIA Formula One Technical
Regulations.
Paris, 15 July 1993
*****
[Typist's comment: the decision to ban traction control seems to only
apply to systems limiting power output and not to those applying the
brakes as necessary. I don't expect teams will risk running brake-based
traction control, either, though... /tom]
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| 24.116 | Prost on provisional pole at Hockenheim | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Fri Jul 23 1993 13:55 | 56 |
| From: [email protected] (ADRIANA PONTIERI)
Subject: Prost continues to set the pace
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 93 8:47:36 PDT
HOCKENHEIM, Germany (UPI) -- Frenchman Alain Prost, looking as
invincible as ever, outpaced the field Friday to take provisional pole
position for Sunday's German Formula One Grand Prix.
Prost, a 38-year-old who has won three world championships, has won
five of the last six Grands Prix to head the standings with 67 points.
He had the fastest qualifying time, with speeds exceeding 154 miles per
hour.
Local hero Michael Schumacher was next fastest. British drivers Damon
Hill, in the second Williams Renault, and Mark Blundell in a Ligier,
shared the second row of the provisional grid.
Prost complained of technical problems despite his performance.
``I have the best time of the day but I am not very pleased with the
car, I think we must work quite hard to have a much better balance over
the bumps and especially under braking,'' said Prost, who has started
from pole position in eight of the season's nine races.
Prost went off the circuit at the first Brems corner to allow one of
the Ligier's to overtake him, without realizing there was a sand pit.
``As I only drove here last two years ago I did not know that they
had put sand on the chicane and I had to go back into reverse,'' said
the Frenchman, who took a year off from the sport in 1992.
Prost, who chalked up his 50th Formula One triumph in the British
Grand Prix two weeks ago, scored his sole German race victory in 1984.
Schumacher put his home crowd into a state of frenzy with the day's
second quickest time in his Benetton Ford.
``The car felt really good, almost perfect,'' said Schumacher, who
finished third in last year's race.
However, the 24-year-old realizes he is a longshot to become the
first German driver to win on home soil since the Formula One World
Championship was founded in 1950.
``The two Williams are unbeatable under normal conditions,''
Schumacher said.
Brazilian Ayrton Senna, who won three successive German Grands Prix
between 1988 and 1990, experienced problems with his McLaren before
improving to a dissapointing fifth position with only four minutes left
of qualifying. Britain's Renault driver Martin Brundle was sixth.
``I spun and then stalled the engine in the morning qualifying, so in
the afternoon we had to set up the car from scratch and it didn't feel
right on the first fast run, we modified it for the second one but it
was still not quite right'' Senna said.
Despite spinning off into a sand pit on the Ostkurve, Hill managed
third fastest provisional time, but had difficulties with his Williams
Renault.
``I never got into the groove today, the car didn't feel good, the
spin was a problem with the servo brake system on the car, it felt like
I had the handbrake on when going into the chicanes,'' said Hill, son of
former 1968 world champion Graham Hill.
``We have a lot of sorting out to do for tommorrow, as you couldn't
drive a race like that,'' Hill added.
Italian Luca Bodoer crashed his BMS Lola Ferrari into a tire wall at
the third Brems corner, causing the session to be red-flagged to a halt
with only two minutes remaining of the provisional qualifying. The
Italian escaped uninjured.
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| 24.117 | Friday times from Hockenheim | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Jul 24 1993 00:48 | 24 |
| From: [email protected] (Warren McAllister)
HOCKENHEIM, GERMANY, JULY 23 (REUTER) - QUALIFYING TIMES
AFTER FRIDAY'S OPENING PRACTICE SESSION FOR SUNDAY'S GERMAN
GRAND PRIX MOTOR RACE:
1. ALAIN PROST (FRANCE) WILLIAMS 1 MINUTE 39.046 SECONDS
(AVERAGE SPEED 248.539 KPH)
2. MICHAEL SCHUMACHER (GERMANY) BENETTON 1 39.640
3. DAMON HILL (BRITAIN) WILLIAMS 1 40.211
4. MARK BLUNDELL (BRITAIN) LIGIER 1 40.279
5. AYRTON SENNA (BRAZIL) MCLAREN 1 40.642
6. MARTIN BRUNDLE (BRITAIN) LIGIER 1 40.916
7. RICCARDO PATRESE (ITALY) BENETTON 1 41.101
8. AGURI SUZUKI (JAPAN) FOOTWORK 1:41.138
9. GERHARD BERGER (AUSTRIA) FERRARI 1 41.290
10. JEAN ALESI (FRANCE) FERRARI 1 41.304
11. MICHAEL ANDRETTI (U.S.) MCLAREN 1 41.531
12. JOHNNY HERBERT (BRITAIN) LOTUS 1 41.564
13. ALESSANDRO ZANARDI (ITALY) LOTUS 1 41.858
14. KARL WENDLINGER (AUSTRIA) SAUBER 1 41.992
15. ERIK COMAS (FRANCE) LARROUSSE 1 42.086
16. RUEBENS BARRICHELLO (BRAZIL) JORDAN 1 42.152
17. CHRISTIAN FITTIPALDI (BRAZIL) MINARDI 1 42.658
18. PIERLUIGI MARTINI (ITALY) MINARDI 1 42.786
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| 24.118 | F1 technology "crisis" resolved [what's that odd smell?] | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Jul 24 1993 00:52 | 42 |
| From: [email protected] (Jeffrey Laird)
MOTOR RACING-FORMULA ONE TECHNOLOGY CRISIS RESOLVED HOCKENHEIM,
Germany, July 22 - The high technology crisis in Formula One motor racing was
resolved on Thursday when teams agreed to run the rest of this year's
championship to the current rules, Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone said.
The agreement, reached after what participants said was a tough five-
hour meeting, involved compromises from all sides, and agreement on radical
rules changes for 1994.
Ecclestone said the deal would be submitted to the ruling body FISA ``and
I have no doubt FISA will accept it,'' he said.
FISA ruled last week that computer controlled active suspension and
traction control as used by the majority of Formula One teams was illegal. The
ruling body threatened to force championship leaders Williams into a major
re-build of their car in mid-season and ahead of the next Grand Prix in
Hungary.
FISA president Max Moseley had said the ban was suspended until after
this weekend's German Grand Prix but warned that individual teams might still
protest over the systems.
But Ecclestone stated categorically after the meeting: ``There will be
no protests.
``We agreed to a lot of technical things for 1994, a lot of changes.
This is a big step forward to improve Formula One. For the first time for a
year teams have got together in the interests of the sport,'' Ecclestone said.
French team owner Gerard Larrousse said new rules for 1994 should be
announced within 48 hours. He credited Ecclestone with achieving the deal. The
leading teams Williams and McLaren had been strongly opposed to the FISA ban
next year on all high technology, introduced to reduce costs for smaller teams
and improve the spectacle in Formula One.
``Everyone made compromises, people have all given up something,''
Ecclestone said.
McLaren's Ron Dennis described the talks as ``the most positive meeting
in Formula One for some time. Everyone was in a mood to come to an agreement.''
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| 24.119 | more on Friday's session at Hockenheim | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Jul 24 1993 18:57 | 72 |
| From: [email protected] (David Reininger)
Subject: Friday German GP Times/Notes
MARLBORO RACING NEWS -- THE OFFICIAL INDYCAR NEWS SERVICE
=========================================================
German Grand Prix
Hockenheim, Germany
Friday, 23 July 1993
1st Qualifying Session
Ayrton Senna and Michael Andretti qualified respectively
in fifth and eleventh position on the provisional grid for
Sunday's German Grand Prix. Both drivers used the Ford HB
Series VIII this afternoon.
Ayrton Senna: "I lost out on most of the morning session
because I went in too long at the first chicane, spun and
then stalled the engine. So in the afternoon we had to
set the car from scratch and it didn't feel right on the
first fast run. We modified it for the second one: it
was better, but still not quite right. The new engine
feels better at the top end, but it's early days to give a
proper opinion."
Michael Andretti: "I just could not get a clear lap
today. And on the last one, when I was going well, Badoer
braked very late before a bend, and I was nearly involved
in his accident."
Mark Parish (Cosworth): "Michael's engine over revved
this morning due to a gearbox problem. So we changed it
for the afternoon session. We will change it again for
tomorrow's session. Apart from that there were no
problems."
Ron Dennis: "Ayrton was hampered by the fact that this
morning he had practically no time in the car, and this
limited the chance of setting the car up properly. In the
circumstances he did a good job, and his last fast lap was
hampered by a red flag."
CAR BEST LAP AVERAGE
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR DESCRIPTION TIME LAP SPEED
---- --- ------ --------------- --------- --- -------
1 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'39.046 2 248.539 km/h
2 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'39.640 9 247.057
3 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'40.211 3 245.650
4 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'40.279 7 245.483
5 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'40.642 7 244.598
6 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'40.916 10 243.934
7 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'41.101 11 243.487
8 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'41.138 9 243.398
9 28 BERGER FER 1'41.290 2 243.033
10 27 ALESI FER 1'41.304 11 242.999
11 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'41.531 4 242.456
12 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'41.564 8 242.377
13 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'41.858 11 241.678
14 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'41.922 2 241.526
15 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'42.086 8 241.138
16 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'42.152 9 240.982
17 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'42.658 9 239.794
18 24 MARTINI MIN/FO 1'42.786 9 239.496
19 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'42.845 10 239.358
20 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'42.912 7 239.202
21 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'42.977 7 239.051
22 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'43.345 8 238.200
23 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'43.471 8 237.910
24 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 1'43.476 8 237.899
25 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 1'44.198 7 236.250
26 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'46.709 2 230.691
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| 24.120 | Prost takes pole, Berger bends one at Hockenheim | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Jul 24 1993 18:59 | 52 |
| From: [email protected] (ADRIANA PONTIERI)
Subject: Prost earns ninth pole of season
HOCKENHEIM, Germany (UPI) -- Alain Prost of France won his ninth pole
of the year Saturday, taking the top spot for Sunday's German Grand
Prix.
Prost, 38, improved his leading qualifying time to 1 minute and 38.
748 seconds in his Williams Renault at an average speed of 154.380 miles
per hour (248.451 kph).
Damon Hill of Britain qualified second fastest in the other Williams
Renault in 1:38.905, ahead of local hero Michael Schumacher in a
Benetton Ford in 1:39.580.
``It didn't really surprise me that Michael was so quick yesterday,
it shocked and worried me instead,'' said Hill, the son of former two-
time world champion Graham. ``We are seeing a reduced gap between our
car and the Benetton and it's quite frightening.''
Brazil's triple world champion Ayrton Senna, who had technical
problems with his McLaren Ford Friday, had a much better ride Saturday
and qualified in fourth place in 1:39.616.
``The car is much improved compared to yesterday, as we had time to
work on it as well as drive it more,'' said Senna, who won the German
grand prix on three successive occasions between 1988 and 1990.
Britain's Ligier Renault duo Mark Blundell and Martin Brundle are on
the third row of the grid for the race on the 4.235-mile (6.815 km)
Hockenheim circuit.
Japan's Aguri Suzuki in the Footwork Mugen-Honda shares the fourth
row with Austrian Ferrari pilot Gerhard Berger. Berger spun off the
course into a tire wall at the third Brems chicane Saturday, but walked
away unhurt.
``I was far too fast entering the chicane,'' Berger said. ``My back
tire went off course and I was unable to correct. The car is a complete
wreck and I'll have to use the spare care tommorrow.''
Prost, who currently leads the driver's championship with 67 points,
improved his provisional time on his first attempt Saturday, and was
quicker again with a late lap with just two minutes left in the session.
``It is always important to be on pole as the first corner is quite
difficult and slippery, the straight is very long but quite narrow and
the first braking is going to be quite tough,'' Prost said.
``The track is quite bumpy on the right side and when this is the
case we have huge problems with our active suspension.''
Hill had also complained about technical deficiencies in his car in
Friday's qualifying, but said both he and his machine had got ``a bit
more into the groove today.
``It is always good to be on the front row, but there is so little
between us at the moment that it really is starting to get very close,''
he added.
Despite falling back to the second row of the grid, Schumacher was
greeted by a sea of waving German flags and firecrackers as he drove
back to the pits after qualifying.
``To come into the circuit and see the millions of fans and
spectators is great. You know I really do enjoy it,'' said the 24-year-
old German. ``Their excitement is transferred to me.''
|
| 24.121 | more on Saturday's session at Hockenheim | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Jul 24 1993 19:01 | 77 |
| From: [email protected] (David Reininger)
Subject: Saturday German GP Times/Notes
MARLBORO RACING NEWS -- THE OFFICIAL INDYCAR NEWS SERVICE
=========================================================
GERMAN GRAND PRIX
Hockenheim, Germany
Saturday, 24 July 1993
2nd Qualifying Session
Ayrton Senna's Marlboro McLaren will start the German
Grand Prix from the second row of the grid after clocking
the fourth fastest time at the end of the final
qualification session for tomorrow's race. Michael
Andretti was 12th fastest after a frustrating afternoon
for the American driver. Both cars were fitted with Ford
HB Series VIII engines.
Ayrton Senna: "The car is much improved compared to
yesterday. In fact we all improved, as we had the time to
work on the car, as well as drive it more. That is why I
went better than Friday: I had two good runs and the
engine felt as if it was doing well."
Michael Andretti: "This was a difficult day for me. In
the places where I had no trouble getting round corners
yesterday, today it was very hard to just keep it on the
road. I also suffered electrical problems, first with the
rear end of the car, then with the gears."
Pete Spence (Cosworth): "No problems with either engine:
they both ran well and we had positive feedback from the
drivers."
Ron Dennis: "The season is moving at its most competitive
stage, and today's qualifying was an example of it. In
the heat of the battle there was some confusion over
whether Schumacher had done his last run with new or used
tyres. Had it not been for that, Ayrton might have gone
faster. We are looking forward to the race."
Qualifying Session #2 Results
Sat 24 Jul 1993 14:40
CAR BEST LAP AVERAGE
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR DESCRIPTION TIME LAP SPEED
---- --- ------ --------------- --------- --- -------
1 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'38.748 4 248.451 km/h
2 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'38.905 10 248.056
3 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'39.580 11 246.375
4 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'39.616 10 246.286
5 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'40.135 9 245.009
6 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'40.855 9 243.260
7 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'41.220 8 242.383
8 28 BERGER FER 1'41.242 2 242.330
9 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'41.292 7 242.211
10 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'41.449 3 241.836
11 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'41.642 4 241.377
12 27 ALESI FER 1'41.726 2 241.177
13 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'41.945 5 240.659
14 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'42.025 3 240.470
15 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'42.032 2 240.454
16 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'42.203 9 240.052
17 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'42.468 7 239.431
18 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'42.682 7 238.932
19 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'42.910 11 238.402
20 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'42.970 3 238.264
21 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 1'43.007 9 238.178
22 24 MARTINI MIN/FO 1'43.353 4 237.381
23 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'43.561 2 236.904
24 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'44.058 2 235.772
25 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 1'44.166 3 235.528
26 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'44.641 3 234.459
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| 24.122 | Prost wins, Hill snakebitten at Hockenheim | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Sun Jul 25 1993 22:40 | 138 |
| From: [email protected] (ADRIANA PONTIERI)
Subject: Prost wins German GP
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 93 11:46:30 PDT
HOCKENHEIM, Germany (UPI) -- World championship leader Alain Prost
took advantage of the misfortune of his Williams Renault teammate Damon
Hill Sunday to claim victory in the German Formula One Grand Prix.
Hill retired from the race in the penultimate lap with a blown left
rear tire while holding a comfortable lead, leaving Prost to take the
checkered flag in 1 hour 18 minutes 40.885 seconds at an average speed
of 145.314 mph.
It was the 51st victory of the 37-year-old Frenchman's career and
increased his lead in the world championship standings to 27 points over
Brazilian McLaren Ford driver Ayrton Senna.
``I decided to attack Damon at the end of the race, but then I had
some vibration in the straight, so I decided to slow down and finish
second. Then I saw he (Hill) had a problem and I was surprised,'' said
Prost. ``He was very unlucky again today.''
Michael Schumacher of Germany delighted the 150,000-strong crowd by
finishing second in a Benetton Ford, 16.664 seconds behind Prost, while
Mark Blundell of Britain equalled his best-ever finish with third place
in a Ligier Renault.
Schumacher was forced to race in the team's spare car but he still
gave the home fans plenty to cheer about, and he also clocked the
fastest lap of 1:41.859 at an average speed of 149.665 mph.
``The crowd has been tremendous,'' said Schumacher. ``I have to pay a
compliment to them. Last year I was third and this year I have finished
second so maybe I can finish one place better again next year.''
Senna finished fourth despite spinning off course on the first lap
while trying to avoid Prost and falling to last place. Riccardo Patrese
of Italy was fifth in the second Benetton and Austria'a Gerhard Berger
was sixth in a Ferrari.
``Alain and I both braked very late at the first chicane,'' said
Senna, who has won three races this season. ``I don't know if we
touched, but we were both beyond our limit.
``I lost control and spun off. It was a pity I could have finished in
the first three today.''
Hill, the son of former two-time world champion Graham, started well
and raced to an early lead.
Prost picked up a 10-second stop-go penalty early in the race after
missing a chicane as he sought to avoid a collision with Ligier Renault
driver Martin Brundle.
``I am not just surprised about the penalty -- I am scandalized,''
said Prost. ``We talked about that chicane this morning in the drivers'
briefing and I went staight just to avoid an accident with Brundle.''
The Frenchman added the chicane had been discussed because reigning
world champion Nigel Mansell of Britain, who changed to the American
IndyCar series this season, had skipped the chicane to overtake last
year. It had been decided a driver would only be disqualified if he
avoided the chicane to his advantage.
Prost went into the pits to take the penalty in the 10th lap and
exited in sixth place. But he had no problem advancing to second place
behind Hill within eight laps.
The race continued with Hill, Prost and Schumacher in the first three
positions, until Hill's tire exploded on the second-last lap and he was
forced to withdraw.
Hill was also denied victory at the British Grand Prix at Silverstone
two weeks ago when he had to retire with a blown engine while leading
the race with 18 laps remaining.
``I had no warning at all and it is pretty difficult to win a race on
three wheels,'' he said. ``This is a million times worse than
Silverstone for me. I didn't deserve that. If I was determined to win a
race before, I am three times more determined now.''
Neither of the two Williams Renault drivers stopped to change tires
throughout Sunday's German GP.
The 11th round of the 16-race Formula One season is the Hungarian
Grand Prix Aug. 15.
German Formula One Grand Prix
At Hockenheim, Germany, July 25
45 laps: 190.559 miles
1. Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 1 hour 18 minutes
40.885 seconds (avg. speed: 145.314 mph
2. Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 1:18:57.549
3. Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:19:40.234
4. Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 1:19:49.114
5. Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, 1:20:12.401
6. Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, 1:20:15.639
7. Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 1:20:16.726
8. Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:18:41.394, 1 lap behind
9. Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, 1:18:46.918, 1 lap
10. Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, 1:18:53.424, 1 lap
11. Christian Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, 1:19:04.599, 1 lap
12. Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:19:31.10, 1 lap
13. Thierry Boutsen, Belgium, Jordan Hart, 1:20:08.025, 1 lap
14. Pierluigi Martini, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:20:15.983, 1 lap
15. Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault, 1:14:56.176, 2 laps
16. Michele Alboreto, Italy, BMS Lola Ferrari, 1:19:32.350, 2 laps
17. Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen-Honda, 1:18:45.647, 3 laps
Did not finish
Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan Hart, 34 laps covered
Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell Yamaha, 28 laps
J.J. Lehto, Finland, Sauber, 22 laps
Alessandro Zanardi, Italy, Lotus Ford, 19 laps
Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork Mugen-Honda, 9 laps
Michael Andretti, U.S., McLaren Ford, 4 laps
Luca Badoer, Italy, BMS Lola Ferrari, 4 laps
Andrea De Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1 lap
Not classified
Erik Comas, France, Larrousse Lamborghini
Fastest lap: Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 1:41.859
(avg. speed: 149.665 mph.
------
Formula One World Championship Standings Drivers' Championship
1, Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 77 points.
2, Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 50.
3, Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 36.
4, Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault, 28.
5, Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, 11.
6, Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, 10.
7 (tie), Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, and Johnny
Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, 9.
9, Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, 6.
10 (tie), Christian Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, and J.J. Lehto,
Finland, Sauber, 5;
12, Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 4.
13, Michael Andretti, U.S., McLaren Ford, 3.
14 (tie), Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, and Fabrizio
Barbazza, Italy, Minardi Ford, 2.
16 (tie), Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, Alessandro
Zanardi, Italy, Lotus Ford, and Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork-Mugen
Honda, 1.
Constructor's Championship
1, Williams Renault, 105 points.
2, McLaren Ford, 53.
3, Benetton Ford, 47.
4, Ligier Renault, 19.
5 (tie), Ferrari, and Lotus Ford, 10.
7, Minardi Ford, 7.
8, Sauber, 6.
9, Larrousse Lamborghini, 2.
10, Footwork-Mugen Honda, 1.
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| 24.123 | | DELNI::CRITZ | Scott Critz, LKG2/1, Pole V3 | Mon Jul 26 1993 10:14 | 8 |
| This is reply .108 all over again. Damon Hill must think
the racing gods hate him. I was thinking, "Damon's gonna
win his first F1 race." And then, all of a sudden, I see
a lot of sparks and his car slows way down.
What does this guy have to do to win?
Scott
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| 24.124 | McLaren Ford Pinwheels :) | STRATA::SALZMANN | Don't mess with Texas | Mon Jul 26 1993 13:37 | 10 |
|
It's a crummy thing to say, but was I the only one who cheered
when Senna spun out?? His recovery, looked, well, angry.
What's the deal with _refueling_ next year? Anybody know more
about this??
Jeff
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| 24.125 | Senna spinning | OASS::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Tue Jul 27 1993 10:58 | 15 |
| I don't think I cheered, but I wasn't crying either...:-) It was good to see a
battle between Senna and Prost where they both ended up still running! I think
it shows some maturity for Senna. In fact this whole year has been much lower
key for Senna than previous years. Not having the fastest car on the course
must have something to do with it.
I was watching tape of the race a few times and kept a close eye on Hill's right
rear tire before it blew but could not see any signs of blisters or anything.
It was also fairly lucky it blew were it did. He had just come through a few
hard and fast right handers which could have been pretty nasty to take on 3
wheels.
One of these days.....
Dave
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| 24.126 | I cheered too! | HYLNDR::MKING | | Wed Jul 28 1993 12:36 | 5 |
| I always cheer when Senna spins out.... :-) unfortunately, more often than
not, he's taken someone else out with him. Luckily this time Prost
wasn't totally wiped out!
Martin
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| 24.127 | Cosworth playing games with the Ford HB Series VIII | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Mon Aug 02 1993 12:06 | 35 |
| >From: [email protected] (Tom Haapanen)
>Subject: F1: The scoop on the Ford HB series VIII
I was asking about this before, and nobody really seemed to know. Now,
however, I have the scoop, thanks to Forrest Bond's Racefax service (call
818-892-0722 for subscription info):
"With Ayrton Senna having a few weeks ago signed for the balance of the
year at McLaren, the lobbying for the latest-spec McLaren seemed a story
consigned to history. Then, on Friday morning [at Hockenheim], both
McLarens took to the track with the new Series VIII bolted to their rear
bulkheads. The engine was, by contract with Ford, to have been the
exclusive property of Benetton until the team received whatever will
succeed the VIII.
Neither Tom Walkinshw nor Flavio Briatore saw any humor in a situation
which put Benetton and McLaren on equal footing with respect to peak
power, especially as it happened on a track which favors nothing so much
as maximum horsepower. Both men were justifiably outraged, as were
their drivers. Benetton had delayed its first running of the engine
until Hockenheim [...]
On Saturday, McLaren was again running the VIII, and it became apparent
that Ford Motor Co. was no happier than Benetton about what was said to
be a unilateral Cosworth decision, one which put Ford in breach of
contract. [...]
On Sunday, there was but one low-mileage VIII V8 left, and it went into
Senna's car, leaving Michael Andretti, and, more importantly, Michael
Schumacher and Riccardo Patrese to run the less-potent Series VII. This,
as you may imagine, did not go down well at Benetton. Repercussions can
be expected. [...]"
He goes on to mention rumours that Benetton is courting Renault for the next
season -- no surprise considering how well their contract is upheld.
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| 24.128 | Poster?? | STRATA::SALZMANN | Don't mess with Texas | Mon Aug 02 1993 12:39 | 4 |
| Does anybody know where I can find a good print (i.e., large
poster) of some F1 stuff?? I'd like a picture of a Williams-Renault.
Jeff
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| 24.129 | Paul Oxman is a likely source | MR4DEC::SCHNEIDER | Perception is deception | Mon Aug 02 1993 17:35 | 5 |
| Paul Oxman publishing - if you're in the U.S., try 1-800-555-1212 to
see if they have a toll-free # - I think they do. Their posters will
probably be of last year's cars, though.
Chuck
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| 24.130 | | STRATA::SALZMANN | Don't mess with Texas | Tue Aug 03 1993 14:38 | 4 |
| FYI- Paul Oxman no longer carries F1 prints.
Jeff
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| 24.131 | Try Canon | IMAPC::MURRAY | Women. Expert at being Experts | Wed Aug 04 1993 06:48 | 12 |
|
Worth a try.
Try calling the a Canon Photocopier/Printer dealer. A manager
here in DECdirect Switzerland got a nice printout of Mansells car
last year when he attended the release of Canons new colour
laserpinter. I think he was was given a few copies for Cust. Demos.
etc.
Maybe dealers have some copies left.
Cheers, Paul
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| 24.132 | this is gettin embarrassing | FILTON::KEARNS_R | OH NO!I'VE GOT THOSE HAPPY FEET! | Mon Aug 09 1993 09:26 | 26 |
|
How long does Michael Andretti have left in F1....
I really can't see a future for him at top level with his current
form. He is in a team which can safely claim to be in the top 3 if
not the top 2, and the facts are quite clear that the man who
everybody claimed as "the great overtaker"from indycar has not got
what it takes to mantain Mclarens standards...
Too many of his races have failed due to driver error..
I cannot see why Ron Dennis is letting Andretti lower the
standards of his team..
He has a hugh talent in Mika Hakinnhan(sp?) sitting in the
sidelines who I feel has Schumacher like skills in pushing a car
to its limits yet Ron Dennis is almost running a one car team at
the moment instead of a team that should be finihing two cars in
the top 5 at least!!
I feel it's ruining F1 to have 'names' in top seats as opposed to
abilty........
There I've had my pennies worth.....
Rob.
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| 24.133 | Time to come back home Michael.. | STAR::BOIKO | ALPHA/VAX Performance Group - ZKO3/4 | Mon Aug 09 1993 09:42 | 5 |
| Rob,
I agree...you might see Michael in Indycar come next season..
-mike-
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| 24.134 | F1 Clones | STRATA::SALZMANN | Eschew Obfuscation | Mon Aug 09 1993 09:46 | 14 |
| RE .132
I hate to say it, but I think you've got a point.
Some of my friends have voiced that F1 should be like IROC,
i.e., exact same cars. I have a different idea-- since F1 would
be boring if all of the cars were the same, why not keep the cars
different and clone the drivers??
Maybe we could create a hybrid Senna/Prost clone....it would be
funny if it tried driving into himself, like Senna did to Prost a
few years ago....
Jeff
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| 24.135 | | BROKE::HOLDEN | | Mon Aug 09 1993 21:27 | 8 |
| Well, I have to admit that I got a good laugh out of .-1 but
what makes F1 so great is all the personalities, the nationalities,
the driving styles. The Michael Andretti situation is somewhat
tragic since it is going to all but cut off a source of new
onesProst isn't going to last much longer presumably, nor is Patrese,
nor probably Senna.
But in the meanwhile, on to Hockenheim and more Williams domination!
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| 24.136 | | GEMGRP::PW::Winalski | Careful with that AXP, Eugene! | Mon Aug 09 1993 23:06 | 25 |
| RE: .132
> I cannot see why Ron Dennis is letting Andretti lower the
> standards of his team..
It's called honoring a signed contract. Ron Dennis has said publicly that Team
McLaren lives up to the terms of the contracts that it executes. Michael
Andretti has a contract to drive for the full year, and so he shall. Regarding
next year, Ron Dennis has said, "If he wants to go somewhere else, I won't wave
a contract in front of him." Ron and Michael both took a gamble in this
arrangement. It's too bad that it hasn't paid off.
Michael Andretti has reportedly been talking to Chip Ganassi, so we might see
him back in IndyCars teamed up with Arie Luyendyk next year.
I don't share your opinion that McLaren should be finishing two cars in the top
5 at least. IMO, Senna is demonstrating that he is the best driver in F1 at
present by making this year's McLaren outperform itself. In anybody else's
hands, with the possible exception of Prost or Mansell, the McLaren would be in
with Berger's Ferrari, the Ligiers, and Patrese's Benetton fighting over the
last 3 spots in the points, and likely failing as often as not to score in the
points.
--PSW
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| 24.137 | Computer Images | STRATA::SALZMANN | Eschew Obfuscation | Thu Aug 12 1993 10:54 | 4 |
| Anywhere where I can find .GIFs, .JPGs, or other digital images of
F1 cars?
Jeff
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| 24.138 | Yes but.... | FILTON::KEARNS_R | OH NO!I'VE GOT THOSE HAPPY FEET! | Fri Aug 13 1993 09:32 | 42 |
| re:.132
I can fully understand that a contract is keeping MA in his
drive at Mclaren but if you were a sponser (i.e. paying a lot more
money into a team than the driver takes out ) would you not be putting
pressure on the team manager to see better results...
I don't believe Mclaren are living up to the terms of a
contract by choice. I'm sure that MA is holding Mclaren by the short
and curlies as he MUST do better for the rest of the season to keep
his career alive.
My whole point is that Mclaren have given Andretti a contract
without a F1 record.
Mclaren should be No.2 ..They have the money for devolpment and
also the new Ford engine. The reason that the season is falling apart
is a simple one...
Marlboro, I remember reading at the time, invested $80 into F1
in 1989,I don't know recent figures but you can easily see that
Andretti's lack of results is costing a lot of money and I would say
a lot of questions must be asked of the team management who choose to
spend that money.
Andretti should never had been given that contract or at least
Mclaren should of had an escape claus in it if the driver failed to
deliver the goods...
With the exception of two or three every driver would chase a
seat with Mclaren and those with track records (no pun intended) should
of been given that seat, not someone who fancied a change.....
Rob..
P.S if Andretti does well this weekend.......
I'll SCREAM !!!!!
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| 24.139 | Prost on provisional pole at Hungary | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Fri Aug 13 1993 16:11 | 99 |
| From: [email protected] (ADRIANA PONTIERI)
Subject: Prost takes provisional pole in Hungary
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 7:03:31 PDT
BUDAPEST (UPI) -- Alain Prost Friday continued his domination of the
1993 Formula One season when he easily captured provisional pole
position for Sunday's Hungarian Grand Prix.
The 37-year-old Frenchman, in the all-powerful Williams Renault,
lapped the 2,465 miles (3,968 kilometers) Hungaroring circuit in 1
minute 15.488 seconds.
Prost, who won the driver's championship in 1985, 1986 and 1989, was
virtually unchallenged throughout the entire qualifying session and is
on course for his tenth pole in eleven races. The Frenchman has never
won the Hungarian Grand Prix.
``It is very difficult to be confident here, it is a difficult
course, apart from that the car is handling well, but it is not easy to
drive,'' said Prost.
Germany's Michael Schumacher, 24, in a Benetton Ford, managed to
clock the day's second fastest time (1:16.003) with one minute left of
the hour-long qualifying session.
``We have had some specific traction control problems in the last few
races and I feel now that we have 99 percent solved these problems,''
said Schumacher, who last week spent two days testing at the Silverstone
circuit in England.
``The traction control system is working especially well on this
circuit and all the modifications we have made to the car have proved to
be extremely good,'' he added.
The German, who delighted his home crowds at the German Grand Prix
three weeks ago by finishing second, was closely trailed by the second
Williams Renault pilot Damon Hill of Britain (1:16.135)
``There is no question that the Benetton's are competitive, but I am
more concerned with trying to beat Alain's time than Michael's,'' said
Hill.
Luck was on the side of the 30-year-old Briton when he managed to
avoid a collision with Ukyo Katayama of Japan two thirds of the way into
qualifying. Katayama's Footwork Mugen-Honda took a spin dircetly in
front of Hill's car before going off into a sand pit.
``I had some problems, not least when I came upon one car spinning,
he lost it and I just managed to avoid hime,'' Hill said.
Italian Riccardo Patrese took fourth place (1:17.755) in the second
Benetton Ford, ahead of Brazilian McLaren driver Ayrton Senna (1:18.
260), who is second in the driver's championship's on 50 points behind
Prost on 77.
Senna, who has won three of the season's 10 races so far and who took
the Hungarian Grand Prix in 1988, 1991 and 1992, overcooked it in a late
attempt to better his time and spun into a sand pit seven minutes before
the session ended.
The surprise of the day was provided by Italy's Pierluigi Martini in
a Minardi Ford, when he recorded the sixth-best provisional time (1:19.
129).
Martini's Formula One debut was at the 1985 Brazilian Grand Prix and
his best-ever result was a 4th place at San Marino in 1991. The 32-year-
old Italian only joined the Minardi team at the British Grand Prix, July
11.
The Hungaroring, which was built in 1986, is one of the most
difficult circuits on the Formula One calendar and its tight curves
makes it one of the longest to complete. Because the circuit is rarely
in use throughout the year it can become a very dirty surface, which in
the past has led to the Friday qualifying times being considerably
slower than Saturday's.
Officials fear the tight and twisty nature of the Hungaroring could
make overtaking very difficult for the faster drivers.
``I quite like the circuit although there are no long straights, not
many overtaking places and it is quite narrow,'' said Hill, while Prost
added: ``It is not easy to do a good lap here, especially because of the
dirty track and traffic.''
Hungarian Formula One Grand Prix
at Budapest, Hungary, August 13
Circuit length: 2,465 miles (3,968 kilometers)
First day qualifying
1. Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 1 minute 15.488 seconds.
2. Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 1:16.003
3. Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault, 1:16.135
4. Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, 1:17.755
5. Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 1:18.260
6. Pierluigi Martini, Italy, Minardi Ford, 1:19.129
7. Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:19.277
8. Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, 1:19.379
9. Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 1:19.438
10. Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork Mugen-Honda, 1:19.533
11. Alessandro Zanardi, Italy, Lotus Ford, 1:19.673
12. Michael Andretti, U.S., McLaren Ford, 1:20.088
13. Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, 1:20.527
14. Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, 1:20.590
15. Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan Hart, 1:20.658
16. Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:20.770
17. Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen-Honda, 1:20.780
18. Christian Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, 1:20.953
19. Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:20.959
20. Erik Comas, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:21.049
21. Thierry Boutsen, Belgium, Jordan Hart, 1:21.484
22. Andrea de Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:22.489
23. Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:22.668
24. Luca Badoer, Italy, Lola BMS, 1:23.543
25. Michele Alboreto, Italy, Lola BMS, 1:23.560
26. JJ Lehto, Finland, Sauber, 1:24.596
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| 24.140 | notes from Hungary -- Friday | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Aug 14 1993 10:42 | 101 |
| From: [email protected] (David Reininger)
Subject: Hungarian GP Friday Notes & Times
MARLBORO RACING NEWS -- THE OFFICIAL INDYCAR NEWS SERVICE
=========================================================
Hungarian Grand Prix
Budapest, Hungary
Friday, August 13, 1993
Prost heads overnight grid.
---------------------------
Alain Prost came within a hundredth of a second of last year's
pole position set by Ricardo Patrese this afternoon, the
Frenchman claiming the overnight pole position for the renault
Williams team six tenth's of a second ahead of his closes rival.
Damon Hill was holding the second spot for most of the session,
but was edged out in the final minutes by Michael Schumacher's
Benetton-Ford, Hill saying afterwards that he was not
particularly confident of reclaiming the front row tomorrow with
the Benetton-Ford's closer here than they have been all season.
CAN SCHUMACHER HOLD THE FRONT ROW?
---------------------------------
Despite a missed gear change on his fastest lap, Michael
Schumacher was still able to take a place on the provisional
front row which he hopes to be able to hold in tomorrow's final
qualifying session. Last year's pole winner Ricardo Patrese took
the fourth fastest time for Benetton, but was 1,7 seconds slower
than his team-mate.
The Marlboro McLarens of Ayrton Senna and Michael Andretti
finished the first official practice for the Hungarian
Grand Prix in 5th and 12th place respectively. Both cars
ran the Ford HB Series VII engine.
Both Marlboro-McLaren drivers were struggling to find grip during
the qualifying after modifications to their car's active
suspension programming has left the cars handling worse than
before. Senna set the fifth fastest time, but had two trips
across the kerb at the chicane, the second one his last after he
spun and stalled the engine. Michael Andretti was a more cautious
twelfth after an early spin saying that his McLaren felt like he
was driving on ice.
Ayrton Senna: "On my first set of tyres we tried to find
a little more speed by reducing the size of the rear wing.
That did not work so we opted back to the larger wing, but
we still have problems of grip and balance. The track was
also very dusty."
Michael Andretti: "I had no grip. The deflectors did
help a bit and this is not an easy circuit to learn. But
I find it hard to have confidence in the car because each
time I try to find its limit, it catches me out."
Pete Spence (Cosworth): "Michael's engine ran well today
until, on his flying lap, he suffered a cracked exhaust.
We will change Ayrton's engine as we are not happy with
the level of oil consumption."
Ron Dennis: "We had an engine problem with Ayrton's car
during qualifying, but fundamentally we lack balance and
grip and this is reflected in our times. Also Ayrton's
best lap was spoiled by dirt kicked on the track from
another car. Tomorrow's times should be more indicative
of our true potential."
Qualifying Session #1 Results
Fri 13 Aug 1993 14:07
CAR BEST LAP AVERAGE
POS. NO. DRIVER CAR DESCRIPTION TIME LAP SPEED
---- --- ------ --------------- --------- --- -------
1 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'15.488 11 189.233 km/h
2 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'16.003 10 187.950
3 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'16.135 10 187.625
4 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'17.755 6 183.716
5 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'18.260 9 182.530
6 24 MARTINI MIN/FO 1'19.129 10 180.525
7 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'19.277 4 180.188
8 28 BERGER FER 1'19.379 9 179.957
9 27 ALESI FER 1'19.438 11 179.823
10 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'19.533 5 179.608
11 11 ZANARDI LOT/FO 1'19.673 6 179.293
12 7 ANDRETTI MCL/FO 1'20.088 5 178.364
13 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'20.527 11 177.391
14 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'20.590 2 177.253
15 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'20.658 11 177.103
16 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'20.770 4 176.858
17 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'20.780 5 176.836
18 23 FITTIPALDI MIN/FO 1'20.953 10 176.458
19 19 ALLIOT LAR/LAM 1'20.959 10 176.445
20 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'21.049 9 176.249
21 15 BOUTSEN JOR/HA 1'21.484 7 175.308
22 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'22.489 9 173.172
23 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'22.668 9 172.797
24 22 BADOER BMS/FER 1'23.543 11 170.987
25 21 ALBORETO BMS/FER 1'23.560 5 170.953
26 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'24.596 2 168.859
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| 24.141 | Prost on pole at Hungary | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Sat Aug 14 1993 14:04 | 78 |
| From: [email protected] (ADRIANA PONTIERI)
Subject: Prost takes tenth season pole
BUDAPEST (UPI) -- Frenchman Alain Prost Saturday clinched his tenth
pole position of the 1993 season to head the grid for Sunday's Hungarian
Formula One Grand Prix.
Prost, 37, piloted his Williams Renault around the 2.465 miles (3.968
kilometers) Hungaroring circuit in 1 minute 14.631 seconds, at an
average speed of 118.934 mph (191.406 kph) to grab his 10th pole start
from 11 races this season.
Prost's British teammate Damon Hill, who spoiled the Frenchman's
perfect record by taking pole for the French Grand Prix July 4, was
second quickest with a clocking Saturday of 1:14.835.
The two drivers exchanged fastest laps throughout the hour-long
qualifying session before triple world champion Prost sealed front spot
on the grid.
``It's always very exciting when you're as close as Damon and I were,
but this afternoon I didn't feel that confident with the car, it wasn't
handling the way I like it to,'' said Prost who is aiming for his first
success in the Hungarian Grand Prix.
Germany's Michael Schumacher was third fastest in a Benetton Ford
(1:15.228) and will share the second row with Brazilian McLaren driver
Ayrton Senna who registered 1:16.451.
``It's not a big disappointment that I fell to third, I was more or
less expecting it,'' Schumacher said. ``Yesterday Damon (Hill) had
problems and I was able to take advantage of this.''
Riccardo Patrese of Italy in the second Benetton Ford qualified fifth
(1:16.561) and Austrian Gerhard Berger put his Ferrari on sixth place
(1:16.939).
The Hungaroring circuit, widely acknowledged as one of the most
difficult tracks on the Formula One calendar, brought several drivers
undone.
Senna and Prost both slid into sand pits during qualifying with the
Frenchman forced to find his way back to the pits by foot. And British
Ligier Renault pilot Mark Blundell had a lucky escape when he spun on
the start-finish straight and struck a safety barrier.
``It is very difficult to find two tenths of a second on this course,
there are so many different types of corners,'' said Hill. ``It's fun to
drive here although it's very technical and you have to concentrate all
the time, it's more like a go-cart circuit.''
Hill had been in contention for his first career win in the previous
two grands prix in Britain and Germany but was let down by mechinical
errors while leading.
``I want to put right what went wrong in the past two races,'' said
Hill. ``I want to close the gap to Alain (Prost) and perfect my driving.''
Prost, who leads the driver's championship by 27 points, was pleased
with pole.
``It is especially important to have pole here and especially because
we will have to stop for new tires,'' he said.
Final qualifying and grid for Sunday's race
1. Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 1 minute 14.631 seconds.
2. Damon Hill, Britain, Willimas Renault, 1:14.835
3. Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 1:15.228
4. Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 1:16.451
5. Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, 1:16.561
6. Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, 1:16.939
7. Pierluigi Martini, Italy, Minardi Ford, 1:17.366
8. Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 1:17.480
9. Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen-Honda, 1:17.682
10. Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork Mugen-Honda, 1:17.693
11. Michael Andretti, U.S., McLaren Ford, 1:18.107
12. Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:18.388
13. Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:18.392
14. Christian Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, 1:18.446
15. JJ Lehto, Finland, Sauber, 1:18.638
16. Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan Hart, 1:18.721
17. Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, 1:18.840
18. Erik Comas, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:19.305
19. Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:19.320
20. Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, 1:19.444
21. Alessandro Zanardi, Italy, Lotus Ford, 1:19.485
22. Andrea de Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:19.560
23. Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:20.270
24. Thierry Boutsen, Belgium, Jordan Hart, 1:20.482
25. Michele Alboreto, Italy, Lola BMS, 1:21.502
26. Luca Badoer, Italy, Lola BMS, 1:22.655
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| 24.142 | Berger undergoes second surgery, should be fit for Belgium | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | | Tue Aug 17 1993 22:31 | 21 |
| From: [email protected] (UPI)
Subject: Berger undergoes second arm operation
VIENNA (UPI) -- Austrian Formula One driver Gerhard Berger Tuesday
underwent a second operation in a fortnight to his left arm, just two
days after piloting his Ferrari to third place in the Hungarian Grand
prix, Austrian television reported.
The 33-year-old driver was re-admitted to hospital this week on the
advice of doctor's for a second operation to remove fluid from his elbow
after the injury flared up during Sunday's race.
He will remain in hospital for the rest of the week but is expected
to be back in time for the Belgian Grand Prix August 29.
``I was so concentrated during the race that I hardly registered the
pain,'' Berger said, ``After the race I felt strong pain from my fingers
all the way to my shoulder.
``I should be fit for the next Grand Prix in Begium,'' he added.
Berger, who has won eight grands prix in a career which began in
1984, climbed to equal seventh place in this year's drivers championship
with his first podium finish of the season in Budapest.
He finished third behind British Williams Renault driver Damon Hill
and Italian Riccardo Patrese in a Benetton Ford.
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| 24.143 | Gif images | VMSNET::M_MACIOLEK | Four54 Camaro/Only way to fly | Fri Aug 20 1993 01:07 | 8 |
| Jeff, (.137)
A directory of
TIMASA::UD1:[DRABICKY.MSDOS.GIF]
yields several cool images of cars.
Mike
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| 24.144 | Prost on pole at Belgium | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | The Voice of Reason | Sat Aug 28 1993 17:12 | 71 |
| From: [email protected] (UPI)
Subject: Prost pips Hill for Belgian pole
SPA-FRANCORCHAMPS, Belgium (UPI) -- Championship leader Alain Prost of
France Saturday set a qualifying lap record at the demanding Spa-
Francorchamps circuit to pip his Williams Renault teammate Damon Hill
and take pole position for Sunday's Belgian Formula One Grand Prix.
Former three-times world champ Prost, 38, who leads Brazilian rival
Ayrton Senna by 27 points in the 1993 world driver's standings, grabbed
his 11th pole in 12 races this season with a blistering 1 minute 47.571
seconds lap around the 6.9 kms (4.29 miles) Belgian track.
Nigel Mansell of Britain, who quit F1 for IndyCar this year, set the
record for the most poles in a season en route to winning the 1992
title.
Englishman Hill, who won his maiden grand prix in Hungary August 15
and held provisional pole Friday, marginally improved his time Saturday
but was unable to catch his French partner. The 32-year-old Londoner
qualified second fastest with 1:48.466.
Third position on the grid went to 24-year-old Germany Michael
Schumacher, last year's Belgian GP winner, who recorded a best lap of
1:49.075 in a Benetton Ford.
Frenchman Jean Alesi joined Schumacher on the second row when he
piloted his Ferrari to fourth, with a time of 1:49.825, relegating Senna
to fifth in the McLaren Ford alongside the much improved Footwork Mugen-
Honda of Japan's Aguri Suzuki.
Saturday's final qualifying was comparatively incident-free in
comparison to Friday's action which was marred by Alessandro Zanardi's
heavy crash midway through the free practice session.
The Italian driver was admitted to hospital Friday after slamming his
Lotus Ford into a steel safety barrier and although he didn't suffer any
major injuries, was unable to take his place in qualifying.
The remaining 25 drivers all bettered their times from the first
session but honors once again went to Prost who clinched his 31st career
pole.
Prost, who became the first man to win 50 career races when he
stormed to victory at the British Grand Prix, previously won in Belgium
in 1983 and 1987.
Senna has won the race on five occassions, including four straight
from 1988 - 1991.
From: [email protected] (Luiz A. De Rose)
Subject: Belgian GP (SPA) Final Qualifying (Saturday)
1. Alain Prost France Williams Renault 1:47.571
2. Damon Hill Britain Williams Renault 1:48.466
3. Michael Schumacher Germany Benetton Ford 1:49.075
4. Jean Alesi France Ferrari 1:49.825
5. Ayrton Senna Brazil McLaren Ford 1:49.934
6. Aguri Suzuki Japan Footwork Mugen-Honda 1:50.329
7. Derek Warwick Britain Footwork Mugen-Honda 1:50.628
8. Riccardo Patrese Italy Benetton Ford 1:51.017
9. JJ Lehto Finland Sauber Ilmor 1:51.048
10. Johnny Herbert Britain Lotus Ford 1:51.139
11. Martin Brundle Britain Ligier Renault 1:51.350
12. Karl Wendlinger Austria Sauber Ilmor 1:51.440
13. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Jordan Hart 1:51.711
14. Michael Andretti U.S. McLaren Ford 1:51.833
15. Mark Blundell Britain Ligier Renault 1:51.916
16. Gerhard Berger Austria Ferrari 1:52.080
17. Andrea de Cesaris Italy Tyrrell Yamaha 1:52.647
18. Philippe Alliot France Larrousse Lamborghini 1:52.907
19. Erik Comas France Larrousse Lamborghini 1:53.186
20. Thierry Boutsen Belgium Jordan Hart 1:53.465
21. Pierluigi Martini Italy Minardi Ford 1:53.523
22. C. Fittipaldi Brazil Minardi Ford 1:53.942
23. Ukyo Katayama Japan Tyrrell Yamaha 1:54.551
24. Luca Badoer Italy Lola BMS Ferrari 1:54.978
25. Michele Alboreto Italy Lola BMS Ferrari 1:55.965
Alessandro Zanardi did not practice on Saturday.
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| 24.145 | Hill wins at Belgium | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | The Voice of Reason | Sun Aug 29 1993 22:36 | 100 |
| From: [email protected] (UPI)
Subject: Hill wins Belgian Grand Prix
SPA-FRANCORCHAMPS, Belgium (UPI) -- Britain's Damon Hill registered
his second straight Formula One victory Sunday and clinched the
constructors' world championship for his Williams Renault team when he
won the Belgian Grand Prix.
The 32-year-old Londoner, who received the checkered flag for his
maiden career win in the Hungarian Grand Prix Aug. 15, finished the 44-
lap, 190.682 mile race in first place ahead of Germany's Michael
Schumacher in a Benetton Ford and Williams' No. 1 pilot and championship
leader Alain Prost of France.
Ayrton Senna of Brazil finished fourth in a McLaren Ford to remain
second in the drivers' title but is now just five points ahead of Hill.
Prost leads the standings after 12 of 16 races with 81 points, leading
Senna (53), Hill (48) and Schumacher (42).
The next race on the calendar is the Italian Grand Prix at Monza
Sept. 12.
Hill's victory, coming in just his 14th career start, ensured
Williams the constructor's crown for the second successive year. The
British manufacturer has a 69-point lead over nearest rival Benetton.
Prost, 38, led the race through the first 31 laps after a brilliant
start from the pole position. Senna, who had started fifth on the grid,
rocketed away to be second but was no match for the superior Williams'
and quickly conceded second position to Hill.
The Briton, whose late father Graham was world champion in 1962 and
1968, began to make up ground on the Frenchman and eventually inherited
the lead when Prost suffered a lengthy pit stop on lap 31 when he
stopped for fresh rubber.
Schumacher also went through while Prost's team swapped tires but was
unable to catch Hill. The three drivers traded fastest laps in a hectic
finish with Prost taking the honors by setting a lap record of 1:51.095
at an average speed of 140.428 mph.
``It was really good news for me when I came round the hairpin at La
Source and saw Alain just coming out of the pits. I pushed extra hard
then to get some cars between us,'' Hill said. ``To win two races in a
row like this is just fantastic.''
Fifth place went to British Lotus pilot Johnny Herbert while
Schumacher's teammate Italian Riccardo Patrese claimed sixth.
Belgian Formula One Grand Prix
At Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium, Aug. 29
44 laps (190.682 miles)
1. Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault, 1 hr 24 mins 32.124 secs.
2. Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, at 3.668 secs behind
3. Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, at 14.988
4. Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, at 1:39.763
5. Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, at 1 lap
6. Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, at 1 lap
7. Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, at 1 lap
8. Michael Andretti, U.S., McLaren Ford, at 1 lap
9. JJ Lehto, Finland, Sauber, at 1 lap
10. Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, at 2 laps
11. Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, at 2 laps
12. Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, at 2 laps
13. Luca Badoer, Italy, Lola BMS Ferrari, at 2 laps
14. Michele Alboreto, Italy, Lola BMS Ferrari, at 3 laps
15. Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell Yamaha, at 4 laps
Did not finish
16. Erik Comas, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, covered 37 laps
17. Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen-Honda, at 28 laps
18. Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, at 27 laps
19. Andrea de Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha, at 24 laps
20. Christian Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, at 15 laps
21. Pierluigi Martini, Italy, Minardi Ford, at 15 laps
22. Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork Mugen-Honda, at 14 laps
23. Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan Hart, at 11 laps
24. Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, at 4 laps
Did not complete one lap
Thierry Boutsen, Belgium, Jordan Hart
Did not start
Alessandro Zanardi, Italy, Lotus Ford
Fastest Lap: Prost 1:51.095 (225.990kph/140. 428mph).
------
Drivers' Championship Standings
1, Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 81 points. 2, Ayrton
Senna, Brazil, McLaren Honda, 53. 3, Damon Hill, Britain, Williams
Renault, 48. 4, Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 42. 5,
Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, 18.
6 (tie), Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, and Johnny
Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, 11. 8 (tie), Mark Blundell, Britain,
Ligier Renault, and Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, 10. 10 (tie),
Christian Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, and JJ Lehto, Finland,
Sauber, 5.
12 (tie), Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, and Derek Warwick, Britain,
Footwork Mugen-Honda, 4. 14, Michael Andretti, U.S., McLaren Honda,
3. 15 (tie), Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, Fabrizio
Barbazza, Italy, Minardi Ford, and Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber,
2. 18, Alessandro Zanardi, Italy, Lotus Ford, 1.
Constructor's Championship Standings
1, Williams Renault, 129. 2, Benetton Ford, 60. 3, McLaren
Ford, 56. 4, Ligier Renault, 21. 5, Ferrari, 14. 6, Lotus Ford, 12.
7 (tie), Minardi Ford and Sauber, 7. 9, Footwork Mugen Honda, 4. 10,
Larrousse Lamborghini, 2.
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| 24.146 | Monza qualifying | OASS::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Fri Sep 10 1993 10:44 | 32 |
|
Italian Formula One Grand Prix
At Monza, Italy, Sept. 10
First qualifying session
Circuit length: 3.604 miles (5.8kms)
1. Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 1 minute 22.163 seconds.
Average speed: 157.908mph (254.129kph)
2. Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault, 1:22.283
3. Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 1:22.625
4. Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 1:23.310
5. Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, 1:23.750
6. Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 1:23.888
7. JJ Lehto, Finland, Sauber, 1:24.298
8. Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:24.608
9. Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen-Honda, 1:24.673
10. Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, 1:25.016
11. Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:25.238
12. Michael Andretti, United States, McLaren Ford, 1:25.348
13. Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, 1:25.463
14. Andrea de Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:25.482
15. Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:25.529
16. Pierluigi Martini, Italy, Minardi Ford, 1:25.903
17. Luca Badoer, Italy, Lola BMS Ferrari, 1:26.049
18. Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, 1:26.082
19. Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork Mugen-Honda, 1:26.127
20. Christian Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, 1:26.135
21. Michele Alboreto, Italy, Lola BMS Ferrari, 1:26.287
22. Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:26.300
23. Erik Comas, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:26.323
24. Pedro Lamy, Portugal, Lotus Ford, 1:26.380
25. Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan Hart, 1:26.664
26. Marco Apicella, Italy, Jordan Hart, 1:51.300
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| 24.147 | Prost on pole at Monza | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | The Voice of Reason | Sat Sep 11 1993 11:31 | 34 |
| From: [email protected] (United Press International)
Subject: Auto Racing Results
Italian Formula One Grand Prix
At Monza, Italy, Sept. 11
Final Qualifying
Circuit length: 3.604 miles (5.800 km)
1. Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 1 minute 21.179 seconds.
Average speed: 159.822 mph (257.209 kph)
2. Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault, 1:21.491
3. Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 1:21.986
4. Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 1:22.633
5. Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 1:22.910
6. Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, 1:23.150
7. Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, 1:23.769
8. Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork Mugen-Honda, 1:23.856
9. Michael Andretti, United States, McLaren Ford, 1:23.899
10. Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, 1:23.918
11. Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen-Honda, 1:24.048
12. Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:24.137
13. JJ Lehto, Finland, Sauber, 1:24.298
14. Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:24.344
15. Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, 1:24.473
16. Philippe Alliot, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:24.807
17. Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:24.886
18. Andrea de Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:24.916
19. Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan Hart, 1:25.144
20. Erik Comas, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:25.257
21. Michele Alboreto, Italy, Lola BMS Ferrari, 1:25.368
22. Pierluigi Martini, Italy, Minardi Ford, 1:25.478
23. Marco Apicella, Italy, Jordan Hart, 1:25.672
24. Christian Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, 1:25.699
25. Luca Badoer, Italy, Lola BMS Ferrari, 1:25.957
26. Pedro Lamy, Portugal, Lotus Ford, 1:26.324
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| 24.148 | Berger bends one at Monza qualifying | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | The Voice of Reason | Sat Sep 11 1993 19:55 | 61 |
| From: [email protected] (JULIAN LINDEN, UPI Sports Writer)
Subject: Berger crash dampens Ferrari celebrations
MONZA, Italy (UPI) -- French world championship leader Alain Prost
Saturday captured his 12th pole of the season as the two Williams
Renault cars stormed to the front of the grid for Sunday's Italian
Formula One Grand Prix.
Prost and his British teammate Damon Hill gave Williams, which has an
unassailable lead in the manufacturer's championship, its 11th 1-2 start
of the year with a polished performance during an incident-packed final
qualifying session which was marred when Austrian Gerhard Berger crashed
heavily in a Ferrari.
Berger, who in 1988 provided Ferrari with its last win at the Monza
circuit, was pulled from the car by track marshals after hitting a
barrier when he swerved to miss his French teammate Jean Alesi after the
hour-long session had elapsed. He was examined by medics who reported
later he was unhurt apart from mild shock.
Berger mistakenly thought he had one lap left after failing to see
his pit side lap board and was pressing hard when he suddenly caught up
with Alesi, who had slowed down to acknowledge the crowd's applause
after finishing third quickest.
Alesi moved left to allow Berger the racing line just as the Austrian
went for the same piece of track.
Berger speared into a barrier on the left then shot back across a
sand trap on the right hand side of the circuit where his car slammed
into a tire barrier.
The dramatic conclusion to the session was in stark contrast to the
start when the track remained clear for 20 minutes as drivers waited for
the circuit to dry out after overnight rain.
Hill set the pace when he bettered Prost's provisional pole time from
Saturday only to see the Frenchman post a quicker time of 1 minute 21.
179 seconds on the following lap to clinch his 32nd career pole.
Neither driver was able to improve further as traffic became heavier
with drivers trying to complete their full quota of 12 laps.
Prost, 38, currently leads nearest rival Ayrton Senna of Brazil by 28
points in the driver's championship and victory Sunday would ensure him
a fourth world title after successes in 1985, 1986 and 1989.
``If I am fast enough I hope to win the race but if not, I shall just
try to get some points. I feel relaxed and I enjoy this situation,''
Prost said.
``There will be no team orders at all as Damon still has the chance
to be world champion if he wins.''
Hill, who is aiming for a hat-trick of wins after finishing first in
the Hungarian and Belgian Grands Prix, is third on the standings in his
first full season of Formula One.
``If I win and record my third win on the trot then I will be
stopping Ayrton from winning it. That is my way of helping Alain win the
title,'' Hill said.
Senna, who had started from pole at the previous four Italian grands
prix, was fourth fastest in a McLaren Ford, marginally ahead of German
Benetton Ford driver Michael Schumacher and Berger.
``We are usually quite good on full tanks so we'll have to wait and
see what happens in the race and where we are in relation to Ferrari
when it really matters. It should be an interesting race,'' Schumacher
said.
Pedro Lamy of Portugal, who makes his F1 debut Sunday in a Lotus Ford
after the team's regular driver Italian Alessandro Zanardi crashed
during practice for the Belgian Grand Prix, was 26th in qualifying.
Another first timer, Italian Marco Apicella -- who replaces Thierry
Boutsen after the Belgian veteran announced his decision a fortnight ago
to switch to IndyCar -- was 23rd.
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| 24.149 | Monza results | OASS::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Mon Sep 13 1993 11:45 | 9 |
| Hill (3 in a row!!!)
Alesi
Andretti
Wemdlinger
Patrese
Comas
..
Fittipaldi (after doing a verticle 360� just before the finish line!)
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| 24.150 | | SASE::J_EVANS | | Mon Sep 13 1993 13:57 | 5 |
| That flip was to just please the crowd.... right!!!!!! Betcha he
changed those clothes afterwards.....
jim
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| 24.151 | what's up with Ferrari? | MR4DEC::SCHNEIDER | Perception is deception | Mon Sep 13 1993 16:50 | 7 |
| Ferrari won the non-Williams class? Yow! That must have made the season
a little brighter for the tifosi. Anybody know of something special
that accounted for the result, or was it mostly Alesi's con brio driving
(bolstered by immense crowd support, no doubt)?
Cheers,
Chuck
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| 24.152 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Mon Sep 13 1993 17:09 | 27 |
| >Anybody know of something special
>that accounted for the result, or was it mostly Alesi's con brio driving
>(bolstered by immense crowd support, no doubt)?
No to take anything away from Alesi and Ferrari, a major contributing factor was
that the following drivers didn't finish:
Senna
Schumacher
Prost
Brundle
Lots of attrition due to accidents (6 in the first corner) and a few mechanical
problems. Andretti was a lap behind Alesi, although right behind him on the
track so it looked like he was racing for position. From reports of the post
race interviews it appears Mike A wasn't overly enthused with finishing 3rd.
This tends to make some people think the rumor that this was him last GP with
McLaren is true. Mario said, in an interview on ESPN from Mid-Ohio, that Mike's
future with McLaren would be decided sometime later this week. But then it
looks like McLaren will have 3 cars for Japan and Oz, so it looks like he will
be with them.....
Taking his first three wins a row is a record in GP racing (1950+) for Damon
Hill. All he needs is 2 more wins and a 3rd place to win the title (provided
Prost sits in the motorhome all weekend...)!
Dave
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| 24.153 | | BROKE::HOLDEN | | Mon Sep 13 1993 19:18 | 10 |
| Isn't it amazing that when Prost finally figures out how to start
a damn race he can't get through them cleanly anymore? It was pretty
shocking to see him get away cleanly off the start, something he
hasn't done much of despite all his polls.
Btw - Did anyone read anything from the previous race (Portugal? I
can never remember) about the reason Hill and Schumacher were closing
on Prost prior to his lousy pit stop? He turned fastest lap later
in the race but I never heard any reason for the closing - so did he
lose purely because of the pit stop or for some other reason?
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| 24.154 | Watch out Schmacher & Senna, Mika's in town... | FILTON::KEARNS_R | OH NO!I'VE GOT THOSE HAPPY FEET! | Thu Sep 16 1993 07:43 | 10 |
|
****STOP PRESS****STOP PRESS*****STOP PRESS*****
Heard on the radio on the way to work today that a certain American
has left Mclaren.......
Anyone got any details....
Rob.
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| 24.155 | More like "Watch out Nige, here comes Mikey" | BERN02::GOODEJ | | Thu Sep 16 1993 10:54 | 12 |
|
Seems like Michael simply asked Ronnie to release him from the
contract. Old Ronnie, with great regret, said he would allow him to go,
and without penalty. For old times sake he gave Mikey a nice letter of
reference and a 1st class ticket on the next flight out. Ronnie was in
the end unable to hide his emotions on this on this sad day for team
Maclaren and F1 as a whole. 'I simply can't believe he's gone', he said.
'If it hadn't been for Hill and Alesi finishing ahead of him, he would
have won at Monza, and now he's throwing it all away. Get me my
cigarettes, and were the hell is Mika?'
JBG
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| 24.156 | | GEMGRP::PW::Winalski | Careful with that AXP, Eugene! | Fri Sep 17 1993 15:53 | 17 |
| RE: .155
Very funny. Ha. Ha. Ha.
According to Michael Andretti, he discussed the remaining 2 year option on his
contract with Ron Dennis. Ron said McLaren would not be in a position to say
yea or nay until November or December at the earliest. If the decision came
down nay (quite likely), that would make it very difficult for Michael to get a
competitive ride anywhere else for next year. So Michael took the
Ganassi/Reynard offer that was on the table in IndyCar.
That's Michael's story, but it doesn't explain why he isn't finishing out this
season with McLaren. I think it's likely that Ron made the decision before the
Italian GP to can Andretti. That would explain his rather somber demeanor on
the podium at Monza.
--PSW
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| 24.157 | the McLaren press release | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | The Voice of Reason | Fri Sep 17 1993 17:54 | 64 |
| From: [email protected] (Tom Haapanen)
Subject: F1: McLaren press release
"McLaren International and Michael Andretti have mutually agreed that
he will not be driving for McLaren in all of the Formula One Grands
Prix in the 1994 and 1995 seasons in order that he may compete in
the 1994 Indycar World Series. Andretti, winner of 27 Indycar races
and 1991 Indycar champion, signed for McLaren in September, 1992.
At the time, it was not known that the Sporting Regulations would be
amended so as to limit the number of qualifying laps, use of a "T"
car and the locations at which testing could take place. Despite
these considerable impediments, Michael, with the support of the
team, has come through a difficult learning period and has achieved
competitiveness with his podium finish at the Italian Grand Prix at
Monza."
"'At present, McLaren has an option on Michael's services for 1994 and
1995. Michael recently approached McLaren to inquire whether this
option would be exercised. McLaren is, however, not able to make
this decision until the end of the year,' said Ron Dennis, managing
director of McLaren International."
"'Whilst Michael has stated that McLaren is the only team in Formula
1 for which he would consider driving next year, this timing and the
resulting uncertainty places him in a difficult position with regard
to competitive offers for the 1994 Indycar Championship,' continued
Dennis. 'Accordingly, Michael, not wishing to miss the opportunity
presented by these offers and faced with the possibility of a 1994
sabbatical year, has made a decision to accept a top Indycar drive
for 1994.'"
"Andretti explained his decision to return to the Indycar circuit: 'I
was very keen to continue my career in Formula 1 with McLaren. I
feel that I have gotten over the unexpected difficulties which
challenged the team and me due to the regulation changes.'"
"'When I approached Ron to discuss the futurem he explained that for
various reasons McLaren would not be able to commit itself until
November or December. I therefore took a decision to accept one of
the best Indycar drives offered to me rather than be faced with a
situation where all the best drives are taken. I didn't want to be
left in a position of having to take a sabbatical year, or drive
with an uncompetitive team,' stated the former Indycar champion."
"As Michael will not be driving for McLaren for the whole of 1994
season, the team has decided to prepare Mika Hakkinen for a possible
full-time 1994 season, by allowing him to drive in this year's
remaining Grands Prix. Andretti understands the team's position in
this respect and has accepted McLaren's request."
"Michael commented: 'I obviously understand that my decision means
that McLaren must concentrate on developing the other options that
are avaiable to them for 1994. I therefore accept that Mika will
drive in the last three races of the season. This experience will
enable him to be better prepared for next year and help him to avoid
the initial difficulties I encountered.'"
"In closing, Ron Dennis commented that Michael and McLaren have also
agreed that it would be best to continue their affiliation together
in Formula 1. Provided that there are no conflicts with Michael's
Indy commitments, Michael will drive for us in some Grands Prix in
either 1994 or 1995, should the correct circumstances exist. 'In
addition, if Michael decides to return to Formula 1, McLaren will
have a first option on his services,' noted Dennis."
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| 24.159 | prost retires? | SOLVIT::PLATT | | Fri Sep 24 1993 17:09 | 6 |
| While on the subject of Estoril times, according to a note in CARS-UK,
Prost announced his retirement after this year. Can't tell if the
note's tongue in cheek as no sources are quoted.
Barb
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| 24.160 | Prost to retire from F1 at season's end | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | The Voice of Reason | Fri Sep 24 1993 17:23 | 62 |
| From: [email protected] (BARRY HATTON)
Subject: Prost quits Formula One
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 11:32:27 PDT
ESTORIL, Portugal (UPI) -- Former three-time world champion Alain
Prost of France announced Friday he intends to quit Formula One motor
racing at the end of the season.
He is expected to be replaced in the successful Williams Renault team
by Ayrton Senna after the Brazilian later confirmed he was leaving
McLaren Ford.
Prost's shock announcement came just minutes after he shattered the
lap record at the Estoril circuit to grab the provisional pole for
Sunday's Portuguese Grand Prix.
He currently leads the driver's championship by 23 points from his
Williams Renault teammate Damon Hill. Victory in Sunday's race would
give Prost a fourth world driver's title after his previous wins in
1985, 1986 and 1989.
The 38-year-old told a packed news conference he had decided to
announce his decision well before his last-ever career race at the
Australian Grand Prix on Nov. 7 to avoid speculation.
``The way things have developed, with so many rumors and so much
speculation, it is better for me to announce it now and then concentrate
on winning this weekend's race,'' he said.
``I feel after so many years at the top that I should be allowed to
take a rest. I feel I have given a lot to the sport and I want to leave
with a smile on my face. I have to thank Williams and Renault for giving
me the chance to come back and hopefully to win my fourth title. If I
do, it will be dedicated to them.''
Prost made his debut in 1980 in Argentina and has since competed in
196 grands prix and won a record 51 races. He took a year's sabbatical
in 1992 before replacing last year's champ Nigel Mansell in the Williams
team.
Brazilian Senna, who like Prost has won three titles, fuelled claims
he would link up with Hill in 1994 by his own announcement he was
leaving McLaren, but constructor Frank Williams refused to discuss the
issue, saying only that an announcement would be made in 10 days.
Williams said: ``I could see this coming. Alain is very much a
gentleman and it emerged in the last four or five races. I will not be
making my decision on drivers for next year for another seven to 10
days.''
Earlier, Prost underlined his fierce determination to clinch the
title this weekend with a record-breaking lap of 1 minute 11.683 seconds
around the Estoril track.
The Frenchman had looked set to seal the crown when he led the recent
Italian Grand Prix comfortably, but his engine failed five laps from the
finish. His departure allowed Hill to complete a hat trick of wins and
move to second in the championship. Hill was second fastest in
qualifying Friday but admitted he faced a tough task to beat his
teammate this time.
``He looks as if he has really got his head down this weekend,'' the
32-year-old Briton said.
Senna, who previously had led the championship after racking up wins
in the Brazilian, European and Monaco Grands Prix before the Williams
finally began to demonstrate its superiority, piloted his McLaren into
third place ahead of his newly appointed teammate, Mika Hakkinen of
Finland.
Hakkinen impressed in his first drive in the McLaren this season by
taking fourth. The Finn was awarded the seat after former IndyCar champ
Michael Andretti announced last week he had split from McLaren to return
to IndyCar.
Michael Schumacher of Germany was fifth in a Benetton Ford while
Ferrari hero Jean Alesi of France took sixth.
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| 24.161 | Friday qualifying from Portugal -- Prost on provisional pole | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | The Voice of Reason | Fri Sep 24 1993 17:25 | 51 |
| From: [email protected] (Afzal Ballim)
Subject: Estoril Friday Qualifying
PROVISIONAL GRID
POS# NAME(COUNTRY) TEAM-ENGINE TIME
1 2 PROST(FRA) WILLIAMS-RENAULT 1'11.683
2 0 HILL(GB) WILLIAMS-RENAULT 1'12.290
3 8 SENNA(BR) McLAREN-FORD 1'12.954
4 7 HAKKINEN(FIN) McLAREN-FORD 1'12.956
5 5 SCHUMACHER(GER) BENETTON-FORD 1'13.403
6 27 ALESI(FRA) FERRARI 1'13.682
7 28 BERGER(AUT) FERRARI 1'14.159
8 6 PATRESE(ITA) BENETTON-FORD 1'14.206
9 26 BLUNDELL(FRA) LIGIER-RENAULT 1'14.591
10 25 BRUNDLE(GB) LIGIER-RENAULT 1'14.779
11 30 LEHTO(FIN) SAUBER-ILMORE 1'14.978
12 29 WENDLINGER(AUT) SAUBER-ILMORE 1'15.016
13 9 WARWICK(GB) FOOTWORK-MUGEN 1'15.200
14 14 BARRICHELLO(BR) JORDAN-HART 1'15.479
15 12 HERBERT(GB) LOTUS-FORD 1'15.831
16 24 MARTINI(ITA) MINARDI-FORD 1'15.942
17 10 SUZUKI(JPN) FOOTWORK-MUGEN 1'15.968
18 4 DE CESARIS(ITA) TYRRELL-YAMAHA 1'16.072
19 20 COMAS(FRA) LARROUSSE-LAMBO 1'16.417
20 23 FITTIPALDI(BR) MINARDI-FORD 1'16.651
21 3 KATAYAMA(JPN) TYRRELL-YAMAHA 1'16.655
22 19 ALLIOT(FRA) LARROUSSE-LAMBO 1'16.777
23 11 LAMY(POR) LOTUS-FORD 1'17.198
24 21 ALBORETO(ITA) BMS LOLA-FERRARI 1'17.778
25 15 NASPETTI(ITA) JORDAN-HART 1'17.845
26 22 BADOER(ITA) BMS LOLA-FERRARI 1'19.064
Patrese's poll time from 1991 (the old record) was 1'13.001
In the morning practice Hakkinen was second fastest.
He was faster than Senna right up until the last five
minutes of qualification, and had 2 fast laps subsequently
spoilt by traffic. Senna hasn't had this much competition from
a team-mate since his days with Prost. The McLaren's seemed
better than the Benetton's all day long.
Hill went off on his very first fast lap, but managed to
get the car back to the pits.
Suzuki set his time in Warwick's car, having put his out during
practice.
Naspetti, the new Jordan driver went off early and had to finish
the session in Barichello's car. This was not easy, as Barichello's
car is experimental and has a longer wheel base than previously.
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| 24.162 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Fri Sep 24 1993 18:53 | 6 |
| Prost retiring (from F1, anyway), Senna leaving McLaren, Patrese leaving
Benetton (and maybe F1)....
Looks like the 1994 F1 note ought to get pretty busy
Dave
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| 24.163 | | BROKE::HOLDEN | | Sat Sep 25 1993 10:34 | 8 |
| I'll be very sad to see Prost go but with the persistent rumors
about Senna coming to Williams he seemingly was forced. Unless
he was honestly thinking about retiring before that talk started.
It seems strange.
Could Micheal Andretti possibly have been slapped in the face
any harder? Hakkinen is running even with Senna right off,
something Andretti couldn't dream of. Ouch.
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| 24.164 | Schumacher wins at Estoril, Prost clinches 1993 championship | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | The Voice of Reason | Sun Sep 26 1993 20:59 | 94 |
| From: [email protected] (BARRY HATTON, UPI Sports Writer)
Subject: Prost clinches fourth title
ESTORIL, Portugal (UPI) -- Alain Prost of France Sunday clinched his
fourth world Formula One driver's championship by taking second place
behind Michael Schumacher in Sunday's Portuguese Formula One Grand Prix.
Prost's second place gave him an unbeatable 25-point lead in the
standings over his British teammate and nearest challenger Damon Hill
with two rounds remaining. Hill finished third despite starting last on
the grid after stalling his Williams Renault before the warm-up lap.
Prost, who announced Friday he intends to quit Formula One motor
racing at the end of the season, took the championship for a fourth time
after previous wins in 1985, 1986 and 1989.
The 38-year-old Frenchman finished less than a second behind
Benetton-Ford driver Schumacher who won his second career race following
his win in the 1992 Belgian Grand Prix.
Jean Alesi of France finished fourth in a Ferrari, ahead of Austrian
Karl Wendlinger in the Sauber and British Ligier Renault pilot Martin
Brundle.
Brazilian Ayrton Senna, who confirmed Friday he was leaving McLaren
and is expected to replace Prost in the Williams team for the 1994
season, saw his slim hopes of overhauling Prost in the standings
disappear when his Ford engine blew up on lap-20 of the 71-lap race.
Schumacher's victory was due in part to a tactical decision not to
change tires twice.
``After (Alain's) first pit stop I found myself in first position and
it was clear to me I had to go through on one set of tires,'' Schumacher
said.
``I really went carefully until I saw Alain coming up again (after
his second tire change). I pushed a bit harder, then he caught me. The
gap between us was opening and closing''.
The German managed to hold Prost at bay for the final part of the
race, refusing to let the Frenchman's pressure rattle him, and won by a
margin of less than one second.
``I pushed when Michael was behind me, but I did not think he would
stop only once. When I was behind him, I thought I would just catch him
a little bit and then he'll stop, Prost said. ''Then with 20 laps to go
I realized he's not going to stop, he's going to try and make it``.
Prost started in pole but he was forced off his line going to the
first corner by Mika Hakkinen in the McLaren who was third on the
starting grid. The Frenchman found himself in fourth position after the
first corner.
``When there is a hole it is easier for (those behind). Hakkinen put
me onto the right so I had to brake on the corner because I was almost
on the grass'', Prost said.
``After what Hakkinen did, I though if I had done one-tenth of that I
would have a penalty. The rules are not the same for everybody'', he
added bitterly.
But the McLaren plan backfired. As Ayrton Senna's McLaren spurted
past the leaders, Jean Alesi in the Ferrari squeezed through on the
outside into the lead, with Senna tight behind him and Hakkinen in
fourth at the first corner.
The McLaren challenge evaporated before the half-way mark. Senna's
engine blew on lap 19 and Hakkinen overshot the bend before the straight
on lap 32, slamming into the rail and out of the race.
Senna had tailed Alesi, but was unable to position himself to
overtake the Frenchman.
``He pulled away from me on the straights each time I caught him on
the bends. I just couldn't overtake him'', Senna admitted.
Sixteen cars from a field of 26 finished the event on the gruelling
Estoril circuit which is renowned for its high G-force corners.
Portuguese Formula One Grand Prix
At Estoril, Portugal, Sept. 26
71 laps (308.805kms/191.910miles)
1. Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 1 hour 32 minutes 46.309
2. Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 1 hour 32 minutes 47.291
3. Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault, 1 hour 32 minutes 54.515
4. Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 1 hour 33 minutes 53.914
5. Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, at 1 lap behind
6. Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, at 1 lap
7. JJ Lehto, Finland, Sauber, at 2 laps
8. Pierluigi Martini, Italy, Minardi Ford, at 2 laps
9. Christian Fittipaldi, Brazil, Minardi Ford, at 2 laps
10. Philippe Alliot, France, Larousse Lamborghini, at 2 laps
11. Erik Comas, France, Larousse Lamborghini, at 3 laps
12. Andrea de Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha, at 3 laps
13. Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan Hart, at 3 laps
14. Luca Badoer, Italy, Lola BMS Ferrari, at 3 laps
15. Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen-Honda, at 8 laps
16. Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, at 8 laps
Not classified
Pedro Lamy, Portugal, Lotus Ford, completed 61 laps
Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, at 60 laps
Mark Blundell, Britin, Ligier Renault, at 51 laps
Michele Alboreto, Italy, Lola BMS Ferrari, at 38 laps
Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, at 35 laps
Mika Hakkinen, Finland, McLaren Ford, at 32 laps
Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork Mugen-Honda, at 27 laps
Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, at 19 laps
Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrell Yamaha, at 12 laps
Emanuele Naspetti, Italy, Jordan Hart, at 8 laps
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| 24.165 | | HYLNDR::MKING | | Mon Sep 27 1993 11:57 | 7 |
| I thought Berger's exit from the pits was pretty spectacular, though
somehow I dont think that's the same wording that Derek Warwick would use :-)
What a shame Hill didn't get to start at the front, he made a superb run from
the back to 3rd place! Next year, may be....
Martin
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| 24.166 | Ron Dennis keeps his word - Maclaren's 2nd car improves! | BERN02::GOODEJ | | Mon Sep 27 1993 12:15 | 29 |
|
Mr Dennis kept his word (see 943.223) about making radical changes
to improve the performance of the 2nd Maclaren. Said Mika Hakinnen,
after his amazing qualifying lap which put him ahead of Senna on the
grid, "....installing a throttle pedal seems to have made a huge
difference....it was unfortunate for Michael our engineers didn't
think of this before". Mika admitted that his superlative performance
was primarily due to the immense amount of practice he's been getting
in the Maclaren F1 Race Simulator. "I've been studying videos of
Michael as well. Unfortunately I went a bit too far in copying his
race technique...."
When asked about the vast difference in performance between himself
at Estoril and Andretti's drives in previous GP's, Hakinnen was quick
to come to his ex-colleague's defense..... "Michael was very unlucky
early on. The problem with the steering linkages being crossed over
caused him a lot of grief. You can't blame Michael for crashing 4 or 5
times on the first lap, a few times on the starting grid.....it took a
driver of exceptional skill to overcome the handling problems and just
complete the warm-up laps. The fact that Michael was all but starved of
practice time didn't help any. I'm sure he would have noticed the car
steering the wrong way a lot sooner had he been given the chance to put
some left and right hand turns under his belt. Michael is a great
driver, and I feel very honoured to get this chance to step into his
shoes. I only hope I'll be able to emulate his successes. Now we have a
throttle in the car, things are looking much better...."
Jon B Goode
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| 24.167 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Mon Sep 27 1993 14:37 | 17 |
| >I thought Berger's exit from the pits was pretty spectacular, though
>somehow I dont think that's the same wording that Derek Warwick would use :-)
As Berger pitted I started to explain to my wife about all the 'bad luck' that
he has had - his street crash that broke his back/neck, his crash and fire at
Monza, the bit with Alesi in qualifying at Monza this year - and then...
'What the h*ll was that!!!'
I wonder if they'll put a No Left Turn sign up at the end of pit lane....:-)
The pit lane doesn't feed into the straight as smoothly as some other circuits,
so it could have been a combination of too much throttle and cool tires. Will
Ferrari actually admit it was something broken on the car if it was, or will the
pressure be on Berger to 'admit' fault?
Dave
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| 24.168 | ex | DELNI::CRITZ | Scott Critz, LKG2/1, Pole V3 | Mon Sep 27 1993 15:56 | 12 |
| Dave,
From the in-car camera, it definitely looked like Berger was
trying to make a big correction before he was all the way out
of the pits.
I said almost the same thing as you, "What the heck was that?"
It's a wonder no one was seriously hurt in that fiasco near the
pit exit.
Scott
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| 24.169 | Prost on provisional pole at Japan | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | Will race for food | Fri Oct 22 1993 09:48 | 59 |
| From: [email protected] (UPI)
Subject: Prost takes provisional pole for Japanese Grand Prix
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 3:54:34 PDT
SUZUKA, Japan (UPI) -- World Champion Alain Prost Thursday took
provisional pole position for Sunday's Japanese Formula One Grand Prix
when he edged Germany's Michael Schumacher by just two hundredths of a
second.
Frenchman Prost, who clinched his fourth world drivers' championship
a month ago in Portugal, has never won in Japan but is on course to
change that after powering his Williams Renault around the Suzuka
International track in one minute 38.587 seconds.
Behind Schumacher's Benneton Ford came the two McLarens driven by
Finland's Mika Hakkinen and Brazilian Ayrton Senna, with Prost's
teammate, Briton Damon Hill, fifth.
Prost had been delayed in the morning free session with engine
problems but in the afternoon he settled down to produced a scorching
fastest lap.
And he was delighted with the performance: ``It is not an easy track
to set up the car for as it is so technical. But I am driving without
any pressure,'' said the Frenchman.
But Schumacher was also in confident mood saying: ``I still feel we
have a lot to come.''
The practice session was interrupted for nearly 20 minutes when
Frenchman Jean Alesi crashed his Ferrari.
Alsesi was unhurt however and is provisionally sixth on the grid for
Sunday's race -- the penultimate of the season.
Irishman Eddie Irvine made an impressive Formula One debut clocking
the 11th-fastest time in his Jordan.
Japanese Formula One Grand Prix
at Suzuka, Japan, Oct.22
First day's qualifying
Lap length 3.644 miles (5.864km)
1. Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 1 min 38.587 secs.
2. Michel Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, 1:38.588
3. Mika Hakkinen, Finland, McLaren Ford, 1:38.813
4. Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 1:38.942
5. Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault, 1:38.979
6. Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, 1:39.024
7. Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 1:39.535
8. J J Lehto, Finland, Sauber, 1:40.346
9. Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, 1:40.748
10. Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:40.963
11. Eddie Irvine, Britain, Jordan Hart, 1:41.018
12. Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen Honda, 1:41.086
13. Martin Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:41.278
14. Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, 1:41.367
15. Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork, Mugen Honda, 1:41.380
16. Andrea de Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:41.480
17. Johnnie Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, 1:41.488
18. Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:41.543
19. Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan Hart, 1:41.624
20. Pierluigi Martini, Italy, Minardi Ford, 1:42.388
21. Pedro Lamy, Portugal, Lotus Ford, 1:43.165
22. Erik Comas, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:43.483
23. Toshio Suzuki, Japan, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:44.562
24. Jean-Marc Gounon, France, Minardi Ford, 1:46.782.
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| 24.170 | Full results? | TFH::JROGERS | | Tue Oct 26 1993 12:54 | 6 |
| Could someone post the full results of the Japanese GP?
I wanted to see who were some of the earlier retirements.
Thanks,
Jeff
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| 24.171 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Tue Oct 26 1993 14:10 | 29 |
| 1-Senna
2-Prost
3-Hakkinen
4-Hill
5-Barrichelo
6-Irvine
Others running at finish, but I forgot the order:
Herbert
Blundell
Jarvilehto
Martini
Suzuki (Toshio)
Retirements, again, not in any particular order:
Schumacher (collided with Hill)
Patrese (spun off and crashed?)
Alesi (engine)
Brundle (spin)
Berger (engine?)
Wendlinger (something mechanical)
Warwick (crash - was it Warwick or Brundle that was hit by Irvine?)
Comas (mechanical)
Suzuki (Aguri, spun)
Katayama (mechanical)
de Cesaris (crashed on the first lap, hit someone else I think)
Lamy (accident, near the end, spun off and hit a barrier hard)
Gounon (mechanical)
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| 24.172 | Japan results | WFOV12::DOBOSZ_M | Will race for food | Wed Oct 27 1993 09:06 | 37 |
| From: [email protected] (United Press International)
Subject: Auto Racing results
Japanese Formula One Grand Prix
at Suzuka, Japan, October 24
53 laps, 310.792 kilometers (193.117 miles)
1. Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 1 hour 40 minutes 27.912
seconds (average speed: 185.612kph/115.334)
2. Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 11.435 secs behind
3. Mika Hakkinen, Finland, McLaren Ford, 26.129
4. Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault, 1:23.538
5. Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan Hart, 1:35.101
6. Eddie Irvine, Britain, Jordan Hart, 1:46.421
7. Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, at 1 lap behind
8. JJ Lehto, Finland, Sauber, at 1 lap
9. Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, at 2 laps
10. Pierluigi Martini, Italy, Minardi Ford, at 2 laps
11. Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, at 2 laps
12. Toshio Suzuki, Japan, Larrousse Lamborghini, at 2 laps
13. Pedro Lamy, Portugal, Lotus Ford, at 4 laps
14. Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen-Honda, at 5 laps
Did not finish:
15. Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, completed 45 laps
16. Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, at 40 laps
17. Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork Mugen-Honda, at 28 laps
18. Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell Yamaha, at 26 laps
19. Jean Marc Gounon, France, Minardi Ford, at 26 laps
20. Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, at 25 laps
21. Erik Comas, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, at 17 laps
22. Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford, at 10 laps
23. Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, at 7 laps
Did not complete one lap:
Andrea de Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha
Fastest lap: Prost 1:41.176 (average speed 208.650 kph)
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| 24.173 | | TFH::JROGERS | | Wed Oct 27 1993 14:20 | 1 |
| Thanks for the posting.
|
| 24.174 | an eyewitness account -- Senna vs. Irvine | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | Will race for food | Thu Oct 28 1993 21:18 | 135 |
| From: [email protected] (A.H. Henry)
Subject: F1: The showdown at Suzuka
This was without permission from Autosport.
[The scene: The Jordan office in the Suzuka Paddock. Eddie Irvine,
Rubens Barrichello, half a dozen of the Jordan team, and Adam Cooper,
Japanese correspondant for Autosport.
Ayrton Senna enters, looks around as if he doesn't know which
one was Eddie Irvine, who then raises his hand. AS approaches
EI. AC switches on his tape recorder.]
EI: Here!
AS: What the **** do you think you were doing ?
EI: I was racing
AS: You were racing ? Do you know the rule that you're supposed to let
the leaders through when you're a back marker ?
EI: If you were going fast enough it was no problem.
AS: I overtook you ! And you went off three times in front of me, at
the same place, like a ****ing idiot, where there was oil. And
you were throwing stones and all the things in front of me for
three laps. When I took you, you realised I was ahead of you.
And when I came up behind Hill, because he was on slicks and in
difficulties, you should have stayed behind me. You took a very
big risk to put me out of the race.
EI: Where did I put you in any danger ?
AS: You didn't put me in any danger ?
EI: Did I touch you ? Did I touch you once ?
AS: No, but you were that much from touching me, and I happened to be
the ****ing leader. [Shouting] I happened to be the ****ing leader !
EI: A miss is as good as a mile.
AS: I tell you something. If you don't behave properly in the next event
you cn just rethink what you do. I can guarantee you that.
EI: The stewards said, "No Problem. Nothing was wrong."'
AS: Yeah ? You wait till Australia, and the stewards will talk to you.
Then you tell me if they tell you this.
EI: Hey, I'm out there to do the best I can do for me.
AS: This is not correct. You want the do well. I can understand, because
I've been there, I understand. But its very unprofessional. If you
are a backmarker, because you happen to be lapped ...
EI: But I would have followed you'd overtaken Hill !
AS: You should let the leader go by ...
EI: I understand that fully !
AS: ... and not come and do the things you did. You nearly hit Hill in
front of me three times, because I saw, and I could have collected
you and him as a result, and thats not the way to do that.
EI: But I'm racing ! I'm racing ! You just happened to ..
AS: You're not racing ! You're driving like a ****ing idiot. You're not
a racing driver, you're a *****ing idiot.
EI: You talk, you talk. You were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
AS: I was in the wrong place at the wrong time ?
EI: Yes, I was battling with Hill.
AS: Really ? Really ? Just tell me one thing. Who is supposed to have
the call ? You, or the leader of the race who comes through to lap
you ?
EI: The leader of the race.
AS: So what have you done ?
EI: You were too slow, and I had to overtake you to get at Hill.
AS: Really ? How did I lap you if I was too slow ?
EI: Rain. Because on slicks you were quicker than me, on wets, you weren't.
AS: Really ? Really ? How come I overtook you on wets ?
EI: Huh ?
AS: How come I overtook you on wets ?
EI: I can't remember that. I don't actually remember the race.
AS: Exactly, because you are not competent enough to remember. Thats
how it goes, you know.
EI: Fair enough. Fair enough. Thats what you think.
AS: You be careful, guy.
EI: I will. I'll watch out for you.
AS: You are going to have problems not only with me, but with lots of other
guys, and also the FIA.
EI: Yeah ?
AS: You bet.
EI: Yeah ? Good.
AS: Yeah ? Its good to know that.
EI: See you out there.
AS: Its good to know that.
EI: See you out there.
[Senna starts to turn away, and then turns back and hits the right side of
Irvine's head with his left hand. Irvine falls off a table and Senna is
hustled out of the room.]
EI: Insurance claim there ...
AS: You gotta learn to respect where you're going wrong !
[Senna departs]
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| 24.175 | | HYLNDR::MKING | | Fri Oct 29 1993 11:15 | 2 |
| Thanks for putting that in - that was fun reading!!!
m
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| 24.176 | I wonder how Parnelli would handle that situation | LEDS::LEWICKE | Serfs don't own assault weapons | Fri Oct 29 1993 14:40 | 5 |
| Maybe he can get invited to run the IROC or something like that.
After he tries that once on one of the big NASCAR boys, he might turn
into a human being.
John
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| 24.177 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Fri Oct 29 1993 16:34 | 21 |
| >After he tries that once on one of the big NASCAR boys, he might turn
> into a human being.
or an ex-human being.....:-|
I also heard that the FIA has called a meeting between Senna and Irvine for
December 9th, after the last race of the season. While this sounds good, I see
some problems with this date.
It allows Senna to compete for 2nd place in the championship (assuming he gets
some sort of ban out of this) and McLaren keeps two star drivers to try and keep
2nd in the makes race.
If a ban is decided on at the meeting, it will hurt Williams, not McLaren and we
all know Williams has not been in favor with FIA/FISA by having two successive
world champs leave the sport.
The hearing should be called now and fines/bans/etc. dished out now, not over
the off-season and into the early part of next season.
Dave
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| 24.178 | Friday morning practice times from Autralia | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | Will race for food | Fri Nov 05 1993 12:46 | 27 |
| From: [email protected] (Joe Murphy)
Subject: F1 Australia Morning Practice
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 14:02:05 GMT
1 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'13.643 18 184.783 km/h
2 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'14.015 22 183.855
3 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'14.417 10 182.861
4 7 HAKKINEN MCL/FO 1'14.490 23 182.682
5 27 ALESI FER 1'14.537 23 182.567
6 28 BERGER FER 1'14.575 15 182.474
7 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'14.781 23 181.971
8 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'15.621 23 179.950
9 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'16.019 20 179.008
10 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'16.117 23 178.777
11 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'16.181 23 178.627
12 15 IRVINE JOR/HA 1'16.699 22 177.421
13 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'16.905 16 176.946
14 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'16.989 15 176.753
15 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'17.047 19 176.619
16 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'17.049 22 176.615
17 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'17.179 16 176.317
18 24 MARTINI MIN/FO 1'17.533 12 175.512
19 23 GOUNON MIN/FO 1'18.648 23 173.024
20 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'19.467 8 171.241
21 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'20.554 5 168.930
22 19 SUZUKI LAR/LAM 1'21.146 23 167.698
23 11 LAMY LOT/FO 1'21.408 6 167.158
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| 24.179 | Friday qualifying times from Autralia | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | Will race for food | Fri Nov 05 1993 12:46 | 27 |
| From: [email protected] (Joe Murphy)
Subject: F1 Australia Friday Qualify (Senna P1!)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 14:04:43 GMT
1 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'13.371 7 185.468 km/h
2 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'13.807 11 184.373
3 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'14.098 12 13.649
4 7 HAKKINEN MCL/FO 1'14.106 11 183.629
5 28 BERGER FER 1'14.194 12 183.411
6 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'14.721 7 182.117
7 27 ALESI FER 1'15.332 8 180.640
8 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'16.022 12 179.001
9 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'16.077 12 178.871
10 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'16.079 12 178.867
11 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'16.106 6 178.803
12 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'16.286 5 178.381
13 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'16.459 12 177.978
14 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'16.862 3 177.045
15 24 MARTINI MIN/FO 1'16.905 12 176.946
16 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'17.018 6 176.686
17 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'17.350 6 175.928
18 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'17.612 12 175.334
19 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'17.750 6 175.023
20 23 GOUNON MIN/FO 1'17.754 12 175.014
21 11 LAMY LOT/FO 1'19.628 9 170.895
22 15 IRVINE JOR/HA 1'19.733 5 170.670
23 19 SUZUKI LAR/LAM 1'21.793 4 166.371
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| 24.180 | Senna takes pole at Autralia | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | Will race for food | Sat Nov 06 1993 10:36 | 74 |
| From: [email protected] (JOE WALSH)
Subject: Senna takes pole position for Australian Grand Prix
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 93 1:17:19 EST
ADELAIDE, Australia (UPI) -- Brazil's Ayrton Senna captured his 62nd
pole position after qualifying for the Australian Formula One Grand Prix
Saturday, ending the Williams team's season-long domination of the
premier starting position.
Senna, in his last race for the McLaren team, was unable to better
his time of 1:13.371 set in Friday's first qualifying session at an
average speed of 115.245 miles per hour (185.468 kmh). Neither could his
arch-rival Alain Prost, who will start his 199th and final Grand Prix
from second position with Friday's time of 1:13.807.
Prost's teammate, Damon Hill sliced almost one second off his earlier
time to jump from 6th to 3rd position and will start alongside Germany's
Michael Schumacher in a Benetton Ford.
The third row of the grid comprises Mika Hakkinen of Finland in the
second McLaren in 5th position and Austrian Gerhard Berger, driving a
Ferrari, in 6th position.
``It took a long time, but I got my single pole for this year, and
I'm very happy...it's a very good feeling,'' said Senna after claiming
his sixth pole position here from nine starts.
``It will be a very tough Grand Prix, especially if it is as hot as
today,'' he said.
The weather was much warmer than the first session Friday, making the
track conditions slippery which accounted for only six drivers improving
their times.
Prost, who again was fastest in the morning free practice, said he
was not disappointed at missing pole position.
``The track conditions were not so good and it was always going to be
very difficult for me to beat Ayrton's time...to be on the first row is
okay,'' said the Frenchman who will retire after this race. Earlier this
year, he won his fourth Drivers Championship.
``It would be great for me if I could win my last race, but if I
don't manage to win, I will not be too disappointed,'' he said.
Hill, who holds a slender two-point lead over Senna for second place
in the Driver's Championship, said his improvement was due mostly to
becoming more familiar with the track.
``I am much happier today than I was yesterday and I feel I not only
have a chance of trying to beat Ayrton, but also to win the race,'' he
said.
Sunday's race, the last for the season, will be run over 81 laps, or
190.25 miles (306.18 kms) of the 2.348-mile (3.78 kms) circuit through
the streets of Adelaide.
Australian Formula One Grand Prix
at Adelaide, Australia, Nov. 6
Street circuit 2.348 miles (3.78 kms)
Final qualifying positions
1. Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford, 1:13.371 seconds (115.245 mph)
2. Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault, 1:13.807
3. Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault, 1:13.826
4. Michael Schumacher, German, Benetton Ford, 1:14.098
5. Mika Hakkinen, Finland, McLaren Ford, 1:14.106
6. Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari, 1:14.194
7. Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari, 1:15.332
8. Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:16.022
9. Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford, 1:16.077
10. Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork Mugen-Honda, 1:16.079
11. Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber, 1:16.106
12. JJ Lehto, Finland, Sauber, 1:16.286
13. Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan Hart, 1:16.459
14. Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault, 1:16.469
15. Andrea De Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:16.892
16. Pierluigi Martini, Italy, Minardi Ford, 1:16.905
17. Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen-Honda, 1:16.919
18. Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell Yamaha, 1:17.018
19. Eddie Irvine, Britain, Jordan Hart, 1:17.341
20. Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford, 1:17.450
21. Erik Comas, France, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:17.750
22. Jean Marc Gounon, France, Minardi Ford, 1:17.754
23. Pedro Lamy, Portugal, Lotus Ford, 1:19.369
24. Toshio Suzuki, Japan, Larrousse Lamborghini, 1:21.793
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| 24.181 | Saturday morning practice times from Autralia | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | Will race for food | Sat Nov 06 1993 10:43 | 28 |
| From: [email protected] (Joe Murphy)
Subject: F1 Adelaide Saturday AM Practice
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 13:35:44 GMT
1 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'13.854 20 184.255 km/h
2 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'14.078 21 183.698
3 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'14.116 22 183.604
4 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'14.207 21 183.379
5 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'14.720 22 182.120
6 7 HAKKINEN MCL/FO 1'15.217 23 180.917
7 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'15.395 10 180.489
8 28 BERGER FER 1'15.894 22 179.303
9 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'15.976 23 179.109
10 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'16.039 16 178.961
11 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'16.108 20 178.799
12 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'16.136 19 178.733
13 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'16.198 21 178.587
14 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'16.301 23 178.346
15 15 IRVINE JOR/HA 1'16.319 21 178.304
16 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'16.563 19 177.736
17 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'16.760 22 177.280
18 24 MARTINI MIN/FO 1'16.772 21 177.252
19 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'17.180 22 176.315
20 23 GOUNON MIN/FO 1'17.225 23 176.212
21 11 LAMY LOT/FO 1'18.408 23 173.554
22 27 ALESI FER 1'18.453 10 173.454
23 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'19.129 12 171.972
24 19 SUZUKI LAR/LAM 1'24.191 4 161.632
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| 24.182 | Saturday qualifying times from Autralia | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | Will race for food | Sat Nov 06 1993 10:43 | 28 |
| From: [email protected] (Joe Murphy)
Subject: F1 Australia Saturday PM Qualify
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 13:36:52 GMT
1 0 HILL WIL/REN 1'13.826 10 184.325 km/h
2 5 SCHUMACHER BEN/FO 1'14.494 10 182.672
3 2 PROST WIL/REN 1'14.595 5 182.425
4 7 HAKKINEN MCL/FO 1'14.596 9 182.423
5 8 SENNA MCL/FO 1'14.779 11 181.976
6 27 ALESI FER 1'15.619 12 179.955
7 26 BLUNDELL LIG/REN 1'16.469 10 177.954
8 10 SUZUKI FOO/MUG 1'16.567 6 177.727
9 25 BRUNDLE LIG/REN 1'16.710 5 177.395
10 14 BARRICHELLO JOR/HA 1'16.723 6 177.365
11 4 DE CESARIS TYR/YAM 1'16.892 6 176.976
12 9 WARWICK FOO/MUG 1'16.919 9 176.913
13 30 LEHTO SAU/ILM 1'17.118 4 176.457
14 29 WENDLINGER SAU/ILM 1'17.132 12 176.425
15 15 IRVINE JOR/HA 1'17.341 10 175.948
16 12 HERBERT LOT/FO 1'17.450 6 175.700
17 20 COMAS LAR/LAM 1'17.815 11 174.876
18 24 MARTINI MIN/FO 1'17.816 10 174.874
19 23 GOUNON MIN/FO 1'18.035 5 174.383
20 3 KATAYAMA TYR/YAM 1'18.406 8 173.558
21 28 BERGER FER 1'18.768 10 172.761
22 11 LAMY LOT/FO 1'19.369 3 171.452
23 6 PATRESE BEN/FO 1'21.076 3 167.843
24 19 SUZUKI LAR/LAM 1'23.167 3 163.623
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| 24.183 | Australia results | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | Will race for food | Sun Nov 07 1993 14:46 | 94 |
| From: [email protected] (JOE WALSH)
Subject: Senna wins Australian Grand Prix, Prost second in last race
ADELAIDE, Australia (UPI) -- Brazilian Ayrton Senna Sunday won the
Australian Forumula One Grand Prix, the final race of the season, and
made a partial reconciliation with arch-rival Frenchman Alain Prost, who
finished second in his last race.
Senna, driving a McLaren Ford, completed the shortened 79-lap race
distance of 185.553 miles (298.62 kms) in one hour, 43 minutes and 27.476
seconds at an average speed of 107.611 mph (173.183 kph) to record
his 41st victory.
Prost, who had already secured this year's World Drivers
Championship, finished 9.259 seconds behind Senna, with his Williams
Renault team-mate Damon Hill of Britain placing third, almost 34 seconds
behind the Brazilian.
The Ferraris of Frenchman Jean Alesi and Austrian Gerhard Berger
filled fourth and fifth positions one lap behind the leader, followed by
Englishman Martin Brundle in a Ligier Renault in sixth place, also one
lap down.
The start was twice aborted when first Ukyo Katayama of Japan stalled
his Tyrrell Yamaha on the grid, then Irishman Eddie Irvine, in his
second Grand Prix, lined up about half a car length ahead of his proper
starting position then also stalled his car. This reduced the race
distance by two laps to 79 laps.
Senna, starting from pole position, led Prost and Hill for the first
23 laps until he stopped for fresh tires. Prost assumed the lead for
five laps until he too pitted for fresh rubber.The Brazilian then
resumed his lead which he held till the chequered flag.
The main interest in the race was the battle between teammates Hill
and Prost. Hill who needed to finish ahead of Senna to secure second
place in the Drivers Championship, saw his slim chance evaporate on lap
69 when he spun trying to pass Prost. He was stationary for several
seconds before resuming about 25 seconds behind Prost. He was, however,
rewarded with the fastest lap of the race and a new lap record of one
minute 15.381 seconds, an average speed of 112.172 mph (180.523 kph).
Senna's victory gave McLaren its 104th win to move past Ferrari as
the most successful manufacturer in Formula One.
After six years and three world championships with McLaren, the
Brazilian will replace Prost at Williams next year, and he said emotions
about his last race for the team were running high prior to the start.
``The last half hour before the start was very had on me,'' he said.
``I really wanted to do my best, for the team and for myself ... I had
to win this race.''
For Prost, thoughts of this being his last race made it difficult for
him to concentrate.
``I kept thinking it was the last time I would put on my helmet, put
on my gloves and the last time I was doing everything. It was very
difficult to keep my concentration, but the motivation was there,''
Prost said. ``I would like to have won, but I am happy to be on the
podium again.''
The ice-cold relationship between Senna and Prost thawed somewhat
when Senna shook hands with his arch-rival after the race and hauled him
onto the winners'podium.
Prost, mellowing from his stance Saturday where he said it was ``too
late'' to make peace with Senna, told the post-race press conference it
was better to think of the good times during their partnership at
McLaren in 1988 and 1989.
``We had very good times, especially in 1988, and because I am
retiring I think it would be good to remember only the good times and
the sporting aspect of our season in 1988 where he won the championship
and I finished second ... it is better this way,'' Prost said.
The Frenchman leaves the sport with 51 victories from 199 races, four
world championships and the most number of championship points with 798.5.
Australian Formula One Grand Prix
at Adelaide, Australia, Nov. 7
Street circuit 2.348 miles (3.78 kms)
79 laps, 185.553 miles (298.62 kms)
1, Ayrton Senna, Brazil, McLaren Ford,
1 hour, 43 minutes 27.476 seconds (107.611 mph);
2, Alain Prost, France, Williams Renault;
3, Damon Hill, Britain, Williams Renault;
4, Jean Alesi, France, Ferrari;
5, Gerhard Berger, Austria, Ferrari;
6, Martin Brundle, Britain, Ligier Renault;
7, Aguri Suzuki, Japan, Footwork Mugen-Honda;
8, Riccardo Patrese, Italy, Benetton Ford;
9, Mark Blundell, Britain, Ligier Renault;
10, Derek Warwick, Britain, Footwork Mugen-Honda;
11, Rubens Barrichello, Brazil, Jordan Hart;
12, Erik Comas, France, Larrousse Lamborghini;
13, Andrea De Cesaris, Italy, Tyrrell Yamaha;
14, Toshio Suzuki, Japan, Larrousse Lamborghini;
15, Karl Wendlinger, Austria, Sauber;
16, JJ Lehto, Finland, Sauber;
17, Jean Marc Gounon, France, Minardi Ford;
18, Mika Hakkinen, Finland, McLaren Ford;
19, Michael Schumacher, Germany, Benetton Ford;
20, Ukyo Katayama, Japan, Tyrrell Yamaha;
21, Eddie Irvine, Britain, Jordan Hart;
22, Johnny Herbert, Britain, Lotus Ford;
23, Pierluigi Martini, Italy, Minardi Ford;
24, Pedro Lamy, Portugal, Lotus Ford.
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| 24.184 | | NYTP05::JANKOWITZ | Twisty little passages all alike | Mon Nov 08 1993 11:30 | 10 |
| re: .166
> Mr Dennis kept his word (see 943.223) about making radical changes
> to improve the performance of the 2nd Maclaren. Said Mika Hakinnen,
> after his amazing qualifying lap which put him ahead of Senna on the
> grid, "....installing a throttle pedal seems to have made a huge
> difference....it was unfortunate for Michael our engineers didn't
think of this before".
Did Mika forget to bring it to OZ? It certainly looked like he forgot
where it was at the start.
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| 24.185 | 1993 point totals | WFOV11::DOBOSZ_M | Will race for food | Mon Nov 08 1993 21:19 | 49 |
| From: [email protected] (Denis Schiozer)
Subject: F1 93 - Final Standings
---------------------------+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+---+
|A |B |E |S |E |M |C |F |I |A |H |B |I |P |J |A | T |
Place |F |R |U |M |S |O |A |R |N |L |U |E |T |O |A |U | O |
|R |A |R |A |P |N |N |A |G |E |N |L |A |R |P |S | T |
---------------------------+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+---+
Day |14|28|11|25|09|23|13|04|11|25|15|29|12|26|24|07| |
Month |03|03|04|04|05|05|06|07|07|07|08|08|09|09|10|11| |
---------------------------+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+---+
1. Prost(FRA)-Williams |10| | 4|10|10| 3|10|10|10|10| | 4| | 6| 6| 6| 99|
2. Senna(BRA)-McLaren | 6|10|10| | 6|10| | 3| 2| 3| | 3| | |10|10| 73|
3. Hill(GB)-Williams | | 6| 6| | | 6| 4| 6| | |10|10|10| 4| 3| 4| 69|
4. Schumacher(GER)-Benetton| | 4| | 6| 4| | 6| 4| 6| 6| | 6| |10| | | 52|
5. Patrese(ITA)-Benetton | | | 2| | 3| | | | 4| 2| 6| 1| 2| | | | 20|
6. Alesi(FRA)-Ferrari | | | | | | 4| | | | | | | 6| 3| | 3| 16|
7. Brundle(GB)-Ligier | | | | 4| | 1| 2| 2| | | 2| | | 1| | 1| 13|
8. Berger(AUT)-Ferrari | 1| | | | 1| | 3| | | 1| 4| | | | | 2| 12|
9. Herbert(GB)-Lotus | | 3| 3| | | | | | 3| | | 2| | | | | 11|
10.Blundell(GB)-Ligier | 4| 2| | | | | | | | 4| | | | | | | 10|
11.Andretti(USA)-McLaren | | | | | 2| | | 1| | | | | 4| | | | 7|
12.Wendlinger(AUT)-Sau. | | | | | | | 1| | | | 1| | 3| 2| | | 7|
13.Fittipaldi(BRA)-Minardi | 3| | | | | 2| | | | | | | | | | | 5|
.Lehto(FIN)-Sauber | 2| | | 3| | | | | | | | | | | | | 5|
15.Hakkinen(FIN)-McLaren | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 4| | 4|
16.Warwick(GB)-Footwork | | | | | | | | | 1| | 3| | | | | | 4|
17.Barrichello(BRA)-Jordan | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 2| | 2|
.Alliot(FRA)-Larrousse | | | | 2| | | | | | | | | | | | | 2|
19.Barbazza(ITA)-Minardi | | | 1| 1| | | | | | | | | | | | | 2|
20.Zanardi(ITA)-Lotus | | 1| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 1|
.Comas(FRA)-Larrousse | | | | | | | | | | | | | 1| | | | 1|
.Irvine(GBR)-Jordan | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 1| | 1|
---------------------------+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+---+
EQUIPES | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
---------------------------+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+---+
1. Williams-Renault |10| 6|10|10|10| 9|14|16|10|10|10|14|10|10| 9|10|168|
2. McLaren-Ford | 6|10|10| | 8|10| | 4| 2| 3| | 3| 4| |14|10| 84|
3. Benneton-Ford | | 4| 2| 6| 7| | 6| 4|10| 8| 6| 7| 2|10| | | 72|
4. Ferrari | 1| | | | 1| 4| 3| | | 1| 4| | 6| 3| | 5| 28|
5. Ligier-Renault | 4| 2| | 4| | 1| 2| 2| | 4| 2| | | 1| | 1| 23|
6. Sauber C12 | 2| | | 3| | | 1| | | | 1| | 3| 2| | | 12|
7. Lotus-Ford | | 4| 3| | | | | | 3| | | 1| | | | | 11|
8. Minardi-Ford | 3| | 1| 1| | 2| | | | | | | | | | | 7|
9. Footwork-Mugen | | | | | | | | | 1| | 3| | | | | | 4|
10.Larrousse-Lamborghini | | | | 2| | | | | | | | | 1| | | | 3|
.Jordan-Hart | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 3| | 3|
12.Tyrrel-Yamaha | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
---------------------------+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+---+
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| 24.186 | Hill stands behind Irvine | HYLNDR::MKING | | Tue Nov 09 1993 11:20 | 13 |
| I read in the "European" that Hill has said that he didn't feel Irvine did
anything wrong driving at Japan - they said they thought this was 'brave' given
that Senna will be his team-mate next season (or should that be that Hill will
be Senna's team-mate :-)
I think it's going to be interesting to see how the Hill/Senna relationship
develops.
I wonder if Senna made the wrong move though, now that the McLaren seems to have
caught up with the Williams - may be next year he'll be wishing he was still in
one ?!
Martin
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| 24.187 | 2 race ban for Senna/suspended | OASS::BURDEN_D | Synchromesh gearboxes are for wimps | Fri Dec 10 1993 06:19 | 5 |
| Evidently Senna has been given a 2 race ban, but it has been suspended
for 6 months. So, if he doesn't punch anyone out in the next 6 months,
he doesn't have to miss any races.
Dave
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| 24.188 | Senna again it 94 | VERSA::ROADES | | Mon Dec 20 1993 17:38 | 4 |
| I think Hill will cower to senna......
jeff
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