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| 1638.1 | Replace BMW M1 with Vector W2 | FUTURS::WATSON | Rik Watson | Thu Jan 02 1992 10:43 | 1 |
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| 1638.2 | Another for the list | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Life's a One Take Movie | Thu Jan 02 1992 12:16 | 9 |
| Add to the forthcoming list:
Yamaha OX99-11
Based on the V12 F1 engine, unveiling in the spring, sales from 1993.
Pix in Autosport this week.
Paul
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| 1638.3 | RUF CTR (Nee Porsche 911 Turbo) | FUTURS::WATSON | Rik Watson | Thu Jan 02 1992 15:59 | 1 |
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| 1638.4 | XJ220 | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Mon Jan 06 1992 09:51 | 78 |
| Let's start with the most impressive and fastest production supercar
Jaguar XJ220
History
- first shown at Birmingham auto show, late 1988
- pure 'show car', no intention to ever produce it
- fitted with 7litre V12 and 4WD
- long wheelbase
- study by Jim Randle, body designed by Geoff Lawson
- based on lots of enthusiastic potential 'customers' reactions, John Egan
takes decision to build the XJ220 in 1989
- planned limited production (220)
- during H2 of 1989 the XJ220 is fully redesigned
- V12 is replaced by the 3.5litre twin-turbo V6 as used in the XJR11
- RWD only
- shorter wheelbase
- planned production 350
- prototypes are tested in Europe and in the USA
- test drivers: Andy Wallace and John Nielsen
- performance measured with protos in the USA
- top speed 342kph
- 0-60mph <4sec
- 0-100mph <8sec
- late 1991 : production starts
Description
Engine
V6, twin turbo, cap: 3.5litre
2x2 overhead camshafts
Zytek Petrol Injection & Ignition System
Bore-Stroke: 94-84mm
Compression ratio 8.3/1
Peak power 542bhp @7000rpm
Peak torque 642Nm @4500rpm
Transmission
FF Developments 5 speed gearbox
Triple action synchromesh on 1st and 2nd
Limited slip diff (viscodrive)
AP Racing 2 plate clutch
Suspension
Racing derived double wishbones
Brakes
all-round AP Racing ventilated discs
330.2mm front
300 mm rear
Aluminium AP Racing 4 piston calipers
Wheels
Speedline 17" (front) and 18" (rear)
Tyres
Bridgestone ZR Expedia
255/45 ZR 17 front
345/36 ZR 18 rear
Length 4.930m
Width 2.220m
Height 1.150m
Wheelbase 2.640m
Weight 1375kg
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| 1638.5 | | CURRNT::PACE::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Mon Jan 06 1992 10:58 | 19 |
| Re. -< XJ220 >-
You forgot to mention it's general handling characteristic - Oversteer.
Saw a review of 'Top Gear' over Christmas, which included an article
when Tiff took one of these around a circuit earlier in the year
(I didn't see the programme first time round).
Certainly an impressive vehicle, and so was Tiff's driving whilst
commentating with an on-board camera. Narrative went along the lines
of "braking into ??? bend, 4th gear, through the apex, power out,
bit of oversteer, up through the gears, braking, changing down for
?? bend, powering through, more oversteer, correcting that, and
more oversteer going through next bend..."
All this at whatever speeds he was reaching, and he didn't appear
to be driving like a real hooligan.
J.R.
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| 1638.6 | re.5 | VOGON::ATWAL | dream out loud | Mon Jan 06 1992 11:02 | 5 |
| The car that Tiff drove was an XJR15 not an XJ220. The XJR15 was more of a
road legal race car than a pure 'for the public' production car.
...art
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| 1638.7 | | CURRNT::PACE::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Mon Jan 06 1992 11:11 | 8 |
| >>The car that Tiff drove was an XJR15 not an XJ220. The XJR15 was more of a
Sorry, my mistake.
I knew there were two Jaguars of this general form, but didn't realise
which was which.
J.R.
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| 1638.8 | | PERKY::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Mon Jan 13 1992 10:04 | 17 |
| >>My definition of a super car: anything that reaches 300kph, has incredible
>>acceleration, braking, cornering capabilities, uses some sort of high tech,
I would be tempted to include the Group B vehicles in this list.
Not all of them, but some certainly deserve inclusion.
As for the 300kph speed, that would depend on gearing.
Of course, the road-going versions aren't up to the performance
of the rally specials. The difference here varied a lot according
to the manufacturer. I believe the 205T16 road version wasn't
really all the hot at all, whereas the comp. version certainly was...
How about the Lancia Delta S4 ? An amazing engine configuration
could probably count as 'high tech'.
J.R.
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| 1638.9 | | SKIWI::EATON | Marketing - the rubber meets the sky | Mon Jan 13 1992 20:36 | 3 |
| re: Amazing engine configuration
You mean the supercharger/turbo arrangement ?
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| 1638.10 | | PERKY::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Tue Jan 14 1992 11:44 | 8 |
| >>You mean the supercharger/turbo arrangement ?
That's the one.
Sure made a good noise under full bore acceleration (the only way it
was ever used).
J.R.
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| 1638.11 | Truely awesome | SKIWI::EATON | Marketing - the rubber meets the sky | Wed Jan 15 1992 22:49 | 1 |
| Have fond memories of one full bore on a tarmac stage chasing the 205 T16's.
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| 1638.12 | clip of the year ! | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Wed Feb 19 1992 16:25 | 7 |
| .4� Jaguar XJ220
In last week's 'TURBO' (on french M6, sat at 19:20):
3 minutes with the XJ220. 3 cars (1 dark blue, 1 red, 1 metallic red)
running on the old Nurburgring. Superb views from inside and outside
but no engine noise (replced by music, aarrgghhh).
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| 1638.13 | 3 supercars | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Wed May 06 1992 18:13 | 7 |
| The McLaren "F1" (that's the name currently used) road car will be
officially introduced at the Monaco GP: 28-May.
The new MCA (Monte Carlo Automobiles) GTB and Spyder will also be shown
there.
2 more good reasons to go to Monaco.
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| 1638.14 | McLaren F1 road car | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Tue Jun 09 1992 18:24 | 17 |
| Well, they did not show the McLaren F1 in action (on the track) but the
car was introduced at the classy SPORTING with dinner, etc ... At
midnight the car appeared in the middle of a cloud of smoke, etc ...
Everything was done like for the Lamborghini Diablo 2 years ago. But I
was not invited this time so I read it in my favorite auto mag.
As expected the McLaren road car is based on:
- light weight
- rear wheel drive (no 4WD)
- BMW 6ltr V12 with special computer, producing 550bhp peak
- carbon shell, very long wheeldrive
- all weight contained within the 4 wheels
- 3 seats with driver in the middle, passenger seats apart
Production will start in 1993, build rate 50 per year
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| 1638.15 | I'll have two please | COMICS::MCSKEANE | The Ice Maiden....? She Melted.... | Wed Jun 10 1992 10:13 | 7 |
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Re -1:
And costs somewhere in the region of 530,000 quid but at least you get
some luggage/suitcases thrown in as well!!!!!!!!!
POL.
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| 1638.16 | more on McLaren F1 | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Wed Jun 10 1992 15:38 | 17 |
| .14� - light weight
Proto weighs around 1000kg.
Body designed by Peter (?) Stevens, who was responsible for the
beautiful Lotus Esprit and Lotus Elan.
The McLaren F1 road car uses very sophisticated internal airflows to
reach the brakes, the oil and water radiators, the engine inlet pipes,
etc ...
Gordon Murray was not too interested in drag coeff which should be
around .34 but he wanted a very agile car hence the perfect weight
distribution.
Luggage space ? yes, behind the side panels just infront of the rear
axle.
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| 1638.17 | I want one | DCC::HAGARTY | Essen, Trinken und Shaggen... | Mon Jun 15 1992 10:58 | 4 |
| Ahhh Gi'day...�
The Cd doesn't matter that much if it's small enough. It is supposed
to do 0-160 in 6.4 seconds (GULP!), just over 1000 Kg.
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| 1638.18 | | NSDC::SIMPSON | | Mon Jun 15 1992 11:12 | 8 |
| RE: -.1
Is that 100 (i.e. 160 kph) or 160 mph? Actually thinking about it, its got to
be 100 mph or else it would be on the start-line at Santa Pod!
Cheers
Steve
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| 1638.19 | | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Mon Jun 15 1992 11:54 | 8 |
| The ultimate measure is something like: 0-200kph-0 or 0-160mph-0 which
gives a good indication on both acceleration and braking power.
Another one is : how fast will a car lap at Monaco, Silverstone, etc
compared to a F3 and a F1 ?
The McLaren seems to be well thought for ultimate circuit performance.
I'd like to see a comparison with a F3.
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| 1638.20 | For 160 | DCC::HAGARTY | Essen, Trinken und Shaggen... | Mon Jun 15 1992 11:56 | 3 |
| Ahhh Gi'day...�
Actually 6.4 seems a bit slow. My bus would be at about 120 by then.
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| 1638.21 | | SUBURB::TAYLORG | RIP: Freddie Mercury 24-Nov-1991 | Mon Jun 15 1992 15:12 | 4 |
| The record for the 0-100mph and back to 0mph record is held by the AC
Shelby Cobra 427 at 14 seconds.
Grant
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| 1638.22 | | COMICS::SHELLEY | Always with the -ve waves | Wed Oct 19 1994 10:40 | 5 |
| Heard on the news that a mechanic wrapped a �600,000 McLaren F1 'round
a lamp post on the way to deliver it to a car show. Noone was hurt but
the car was badly damaged.
Royston
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| 1638.23 | I wouldn't want to be in his shoes today!! | WELCLU::YOUNG | Policemen aren't nasty people | Wed Oct 19 1994 11:32 | 4 |
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I bet he'll be popular!
Richard
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| 1638.24 | | FORTY2::HOWELL | Just get to the point... | Wed Oct 19 1994 11:58 | 7 |
| Was it the Motor Show at the NEC he was going to?
I was planning a visit this weekend but if the McLaren F1 is just going
to be a crumpled piece of carbon fibre..... well..... it's just not
worth it, is it?
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| 1638.25 | | COMICS::SHELLEY | Always with the -ve waves | Wed Oct 19 1994 12:13 | 9 |
| I wonder why the car wasn't carried on a transporter.
Presumably it wasn't covered by fully comp insurance (can you imagine
the premium!)
As far as the mechanic was concerned it was a 'company car' and we all
know how they get driven :-)
Royston
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| 1638.26 | Story to be confirmed | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Wed Oct 19 1994 12:15 | 4 |
| Someone told me that Ron Dennis had taken one of the prototypes to show
it at a F1 Grand Prix a while ago. Supposedly he left the pits area
very quickly and did not think that he had cold tyres and brakes, he
did not make it through the 1st corner and landed in the gravel bed.
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| 1638.27 | | COMICS::MCSKEANE | Oh, to be a tab can!!!!! | Wed Oct 19 1994 13:01 | 7 |
| re 1638.26
He did it at the Japanese Grand Prix last year. Apparently Gerhard
Berger was one of the passengers at the time. Gerhard was reported as
being 'highly amused' by it all
POL.
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| 1638.28 | | ESBS01::WATSON | Objects in calendar are closer than they appear | Wed Oct 19 1994 13:44 | 3 |
| Fully comp. insurance for an F1 is about �10,000 with a similar excess.
Rik
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| 1638.29 | | WARNUT::ALLEN | It works better if you screw it in.. | Wed Oct 19 1994 14:13 | 8 |
| A McLaren spokesperson said that the mechanic in question won't be
punished further, his embarrasment will be enough! I bet it will. No
way will he live that one down!
Apparently the damage is not bad, a few hole in the carbon fibre and a
boken oil cooler. I suspect the car will still be there.
Mike
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