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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1234.0. "Mansell - will he/won't he/do we really care?" by NSDC::SIMPSON (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...) Sun Sep 23 1990 22:19

Thought that I'd start a Mansell "will he/won't he/do we really care" poll
here.

The latest information that I have is from Eurosport yesterday - I'll have
to watch the video tonight to see what actually went wrong for him today
- currently the whole world is against him, as far as I can understand... :-)

Don't know if someone else saw the same interview yesterday. Anyway...

Walking from pits, interviewer intercepts him, asks him the "Why retire when
you're at the top of your profession" question he must have been asked hundreds
of times.

Mock pained expression - head buried in hands, and then comes up smiling:

"If I can have a reliable car, with an engine that is as good as - not better,
just as good as - anyone elses, and I have a professional team behind me,
and I have #1 status then I might, just might re-consider..."

The way he put it, I reckon that he's going back to Williams.
If Williams relinquished their claim on Alesi - getting Mansell's '91 Ferrari
contract freed up in the process - then I reckon that there's no smoke
without fire. Williams are careful with their money; however with that
Camel coming their way they've got to engage the biggest name that they
can get...

However, after digging himself so far in, Mansell's got a lost of fast
talking to do to make himself look plausible after his 2 months of
retirement talk - he needs a good PR man!

So, after the money has been sorted out - Prost, Senna and Mansell 
definitely have something in common here - I expect him to be signed for
a season.

How do Williams match Mansell's 4 points?

- Reliable. Pretty much so - though they've had engine and gearbox problems
  this season.

- Engine. Renault seem to peak and trough - its not a Honda or Ferrari (or
  Ford Cosworth?).

- Team. Classy - the best after McLaren.

- #1. Can't see Patrese causing any problems here.

So, apart from an engine, Williams there or there abouts...


So, I place one vote for Williams - what do the rest of you think?


Steve

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1234.1PEKING::TAYLORGBodybuilders do it till it hurtsMon Sep 24 1990 09:344
    The lastest news is that Alesi will move to Ferrari and Mansell will
    move to Williams.
    
    Grant
1234.2OVAL::GUEST_NNowhere at all....Mon Sep 24 1990 11:435
    
    After yesterday's race he is supposed to have said that nothing has
    changed, and denied joining Williams in a �7 million deal.
    
    Nigel
1234.4Lets hope. He's the only chance we have...MINDER::POWELLMon Sep 24 1990 11:540
1234.5He didn't say he WASN'T going to Williams!CRATE::SAXBYTime to say something contentious!Mon Sep 24 1990 12:0218
    
    Mansell was definitely driving with a lot more enthusiasm and
    commitment yesterday than we've seen of late. Something must have
    caused that? Was it just a decent car?
    
    Apparently, a clip on breakfast television this morning had him
    saying (of a possible move to Williams) 'You'll have to wait and see'.
    
    No news is good news? Well certainly, given the number of outright
    denials he's made so far, it is a definite shift in position.
    
    Personally, I think he should quit if he's lost the motivation, but
    he didn't look like a driver lacking in motivation yesterday. If he
    does go to Williams I just hope he doesn't spend the season whining
    about how Williams/Renault can't give him the equipment to beat
    Ferrari.
    
    Mark
1234.6NSDC::SIMPSONPay no attention to that man behind the curtain...Mon Sep 24 1990 13:3717
RE: Mark Saxby

>>  If he does go to Williams I just hope he doesn't spend the season whining
>>  about how Williams/Renault can't give him the equipment to beat
>>  Ferrari.
    
Amen to that! I'm not a person who follows any one driver closely - however
all of the leading drivers get up my  nose sometime or other - the above well
describes Mansell.

BTW, I haven't seen yesterday's race yet; however there's a photograph in
today's paper of Mansell, Senna and Prost holding hands on the podium. Was this
some sort of "trick photography" - or did it really happen? :-)

Cheers

Steve
1234.7FrAnks Would Like Him In His CarBPOV04::SCHRODERMon Sep 24 1990 19:1114
           Franks Williams Sums it up best, On Nigel , " He may have been a
    pain out of the car, but he was absolute magic in it."  
    
           After all everyone else being signed Mansell has two chooses;
    1. Retire
    2. Sign with Williams.
    
    
    
    
        From one who hopes Mansell stays and his detractors GO!
    
    Mark
    
1234.8All Mansell's doingULYSSE::COLLINSRuss, 828-5371, ValbonneTue Sep 25 1990 13:356
    Regarding hand holding: 
    Mansell was in great form on the podium. First he grabbed Senna, hugged
    him. Prost stood quietly at the other side. A bit later, Mansell
    grabbed the hand of Senna and Prost and held them both up.
    
    russ
1234.9Mr.Williams,is he blind?BRSRHM::TIMMERMANSThu Sep 27 1990 14:319
    	
    WHAT ABOUT THAT:	
    	 Over a period of two years,Mansell ,with a better car
    	 scored less points and victory's than Boutsen.
    	 Why should he go ?	
    			
    		
    
    
1234.10My @#$ !BPOV02::SCHRODERThu Sep 27 1990 14:598
       re: 1234.9
    
        You call running a Non Turbo car against Turbo anything a better
    car.   When Williams lost Honda Mansell drove a car with a Normally
    asperated engine a Judd Piece of SH*T I believe and Williams has to 
    today be a best the third best tem in F1. Come On.7
    
        Mark
1234.11NSDC::SIMPSONPay no attention to that man behind the curtain...Mon Oct 01 1990 13:0612
John Watson, on Eurosport said that he was pretty sure that Mansell had
decided NOT to continue with Williams - announcement Tuesday.
Mind you, a reply in 837 says the announcement is today - never know who to
believe!

The last two Grand Prix, Mansell has been so gracious on the podium - shaking
the hands of his rivals, waving at great length to the crowd etc. I wonder
whether he is glad to be back - after such a long absence, or is soaking it up
prior to finishing his career?


Steve