Conference marvin::uk_music

    Hmm..good track on the freebie tape with the latest Select (worth
    getting this tape).  They played in Stoke recently, but I didn't go see
    'em (I'm too old).  Didn't they have a live set on Sound City the
    other week also?
    
    Mikef
    
    

    
    	I have  a tape from Select that's called "secret trax" or something
    like that - has a number of good trax - inc. Credit To The
    Nation,Renegade Soundwave,Bjork and an excellent track by Danny Reed
    which is Reggae - there's another couple of others that I can't
    remember at this early hour.
    
    
    					Stuart

    New single 'Shakermaker' due out this week. Please post reviews here.
    
    Andy

    
    Hang onto your hats...the Oasis debut album comes out on August 29th,
    entitled 'Definitely maybe'
    
    Andy
    

    Heard this band on the Dave Fanning show last week.  Definitely maybe
    a new exciting sound.  They play the Tivoli in Dublin this Saturday
    night, starting at 11pm.
    
    _Dermot
    

    I've heard some of the lp on the radio - they are good if you like
    basic rock'n'roll driven by loud rhythm guitar (nowt wrong with that in
    my book). They certainly seem to have the right sound/feel and
    arrogance to go a long way ("We are the new Beatles" etc.), and apparently 
    their gigs are near riotous things. I'd say go and see them.
    
    One track I've heard, 'Slide Away', could well become a classic of our
    times, it has that feeling of simultaneously being almost out of
    control, and really reaching for something deep and very affecting. Or
    something.
    
    Bob
    
    p.s. continuing on the Manchester band theme for a moment, and to echo
    what someone said in the music press last week - I've just dragged out
    my copy of the Stone Roses lp for the first time in about three years,
    and if the follow up is going to be half as good as the first one, I don't 
    mind waiting a bit longer for it.    

    
    'Cigarettes & Alcohol' is released this week. Time to grab those
    Marc Bolan wigs methinks.
    
    Andy

    One of those pesky Gallagher boys has apparently been arrested in
    Germany, or somewhere, for nicking a packet of razor blades from a
    supermarket.  He was fined the extortionate amount of : 35 quid.
    
    Phew!  Bet he's glad he's so loaded, cos otherwise that fine would be a
    toughy to come to terms with.

    Oasis & Blur are rumoured to be appearing at the Isle of Wight festival
    in August, alongside Uncle Bob Dylan. This may be the only time I'm
    grateful for the in-laws living on the IoW.
    
    Stuart

    Have to confess that I've not heard about this IoW festival.  Its gonna
    be a festival overload with 4 of them in a couple of months, and all of
    them charging a lot of dosh for tix.  
    
    
    mikef

I'd heard recently that the IoW festival had been cancelled due to some 
wrangling with the council or National Trust or summat.

Any truth in these reports?

re .11

Last I heard was that the council had turned down the application on the
grounds of safety. The site was split by a major (for the IoW) road, and was
very close to cliffs. So, no IoW Festival

Balders

    re last few
    
    The info I got was from this weeks NME. It was supposed to be on and
    was the same weekend as Reading. I'll have to speak to the battleaxe,
    sorry, Mother-in-Law and see what she knows.
    
    Stuart

    
    I brought Oasis's new single yesterday. It includes 4 previously
    unreleased tracks, and if you saw The White Room a couple of weeks ago
    all three tracks played (including Noel Gallager's duet with Paul Weller)
    are included... All four tracks are excellant.. Good value at �2:50...
                                                        
    Neil

Hi Neil - what's the single called?

grahame

"Some might say"

It's excellent.

Read the article in the Guardian on Saturday.  Looks like Noel does all the
work.  Expect a Happy Mondays/Smiths implosion soon when the others think
they have some talent.

    
    The first 3 tracks on the EP are quite superb, all three could quite
    easily be hits... The fourth is a good song but not as strong as the others.
    It really is an exceptional EP..
    
    Neil...
    

    Latest news is that the drummer, Tony McCarroll, has quit the band .
    His last appearance was TOTP last week, and his replacement has already
    been named as Alan White, 22, who is a Charlton Athletic (who are gonna
    get whupped by Reading on Sunday !!! ) supporter. Apparently he has
    been in the studio with the band working on 3 new songs, and everything
    is just greeaattt !!!
    
    No official details have appeared re: split, but probably due to Liam
    spitting the dummy !!
    
    Ian.

    At last, something decent at No 1 - Some Might Say.

    New drummer makes his debut on TOTP this week. Apparently they will be
    playing the Paul Weller video as well so it may be worth tuning into
    for once.

Whigfield's hosting the show as well.  Essential viewing ;-)

    
    Anybody know if there's another album in the works or if one is due
    out soon?
    
    I thought all 4 tracks on the 'Some Might Say' cd were excellent and
    this should have been followed up by another single or album after
    it's success.
    
    Also, was 'Slide Away' released as a single as i remember it getting 
    some airplay for a while but never seen the cd in any record shops.
    
    Alan.
     
    

    There is an lp due in the autumn, working title of "Morning Glory".
    
    Additionally, there will be an lp of b-sides and rarities (!) issued in
    the interim period.
    
    Stuart

    
    <there will be an lp of b-sides and rarities (!) issued in the interim>
    
                Got a name,date or title on this stuff ?    
    
    Alan
    

    According to this mornings NME, the second album will be out in
    September. As for the B-Sides etc lp, they make no mention of this so
    it could have been an invention of the jourbalist who interviewed them
    or he read too much into one of their quotes. Certainly, I couldn't see
    any mention of it on their WWW pages.
    
    Stuart

    According to yesterdays Melody Maker, Oasis are re-releasing their
    singles in a "buy 3 for a tenner" deal. Can't remember off-hand whether
    it was in one chain store or whether it was a general release deal. Of
    course, this story could be as accurate as the NME lp story...
    
    Stuart

Is this something to do with Virgin?  Virgin started this "buy 3 singles for 10 
quid" thing...  I was amazed!  3 for 10 quid?  They should only be about 2 quid 
each, IMO!  We're supposed to be grateful for them *reducing* them to 3.33 
each!?!

Matt$annoyed

3 for a tenner?  By my (admittedly poor) maths, that's �3.33 each.
The shop down the road flogs all their CD singles for �2.99, and if
you wait ten minutes for something to go out of vogue you can pick it
up for 99p.

Maybe "deal" is a typo, should be "rip off" or possibly "cash in"

Guy

-.1 .-2, uh, notes clash.  "Great minds" and all that.  /g

    >-.1 .-2, uh, notes clash.  "Great minds" and all that.  /g
    
    Matt? Great Minds? Shorely Shome mistake 8^)

Watch it.....watch it.....

    According to the NME, the second album is finished and ready for a
    September release. Noel G has apparently said that Oasis will only
    record one more album before splitting.
    
    The 3 singles for a tenner deal will be in all the major chain stores.
    
    Stuart

    You're beter off picking up the singles either cheaply when first
    released (I rarely pay more then 1.99 for a cd single), or in Woolies
    bargain bin a month later...
    
    mikef
    

    Tickets are �11.
    
    Sep 13	Blackpool
    	14	Stoke
    	15	Leicester	
    	17	Gloucester
    	18	Bournemouth
    
    On sale now, freephone 0800 614595.
    
    Stuart

    re-1
    
    Any idea where in Stoke they are playing?  Thay have a live video out
    soon also...
    
    m

    They are playing Stoke Trentham Gardens. 
    
    The Live video is out in August in the shops but is available in a limited
    edition mail order pack with a photobooklet on 31 July 1995. Cost is about
    �12.
    
    If anyone wants, I will post the phone n� tomorrow.
    
    Stuart

    
 >>   They are playing Stoke Trentham Gardens. 
    
    Strange venue ! The Viccie hall or even The Wheatsheaf I could
    understand.... are they playing inside or out ??
    
    G.

    Dunno, but according to the WWW every venue sold out in 1� hours and no
    further dates are going to be added to the tour.
    
    Stuart$going_to_Gloucester

    I thought peeps played in the hall at Trentham (eg, Pink Floyd, Sex
    Pistols, The Charlatans...)
    
    mikef

    
    I think it depends on the band, The Rolling Stones palyed outside at
    Trentham in the early 70's, so did Pink Floyd - they had some sort of
    Octopus contraption in the lake I think, and played on a floating
    stage, at least this is what I've been told - smaller bands, and yer
    forthightly Computer jumble are usually inside. 
    
    I'm pretty sure Trentham is smaller (inside) than the Viccie Hall, but
    it's obvioulsy bigger than The Wheatsheaf, so either the promoters is
    being pretty precise with his sizing or there's some political reason
    why they haven't booked the Viccie Hall. 
    
    G.
    

    The tour for next week has been cancelled according to the press today,
    due to the bass player being a bit ill with nervous exhaustion. Dates
    to be rearranged and announced next week. The Earls Court dates are
    still going ahead.

   > The tour for next week has been cancelled according to the press today,
   > due to the bass player being a bit ill with nervous exhaustion. Dates
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Poor, poor soul. Such is the pressure of being in a rock band. 
    
    Barry.

    re -1
    
    Yep, its not as if he's got the pressures of songwriting either...

    <<< Note 1214.46 by CHEFS::STRATFORDS "Steer clear of the Zebra Bros" >>>

>    re -1
    
>    Yep, its not as if he's got the pressures of songwriting either...


     Chinn and Chapman probaly lay the same accusation at the feet
     of the Brothers Gallagher.

     STuart

    >Chinn and Chapman probaly lay the same accusation at the feet
    >of the Brothers Gallagher.
    
    Bloody hell! You don't mean to say their going to release a
    version/rip-off of "Tiger Feet"!
    
    Stuart

    Possibly the hottest and most humid place in the UK this year (the
    yokels were being carried out at a rate of one every two minutes or so
    it seemed) saw a reasonably good performance. Played most of the new album 
    (the only exception being 'Morning Glory') and very few tantrums from Liam 
    (who just resorted to slamming his tambourine every now and then), who
    seemingly forgot the words to 'Some Might Say' so big brother took
    over. 
    
    They came from the New Order school of rock'n'roll, i.e. 1� hours set and 
    no encores, but worthwhile going. 

    Oasis have lost their second base player (too much ale and drugs
    probably) anyone heard why or what they intend to do now??
    
    Andrea

    Andrea,
    
    I understand he was only in for the tour anyway so as they have
    cancelled gigs before....
    
    Stuart

re .50,

that's `bass', Andrea...

Chris$bass_player.

    Sorry Chris..I'm a bit thick at times..
    
    Andrea$vacant

    Anyway Chris, why don't you apply if you're a bass player??
    
    Andrea

    Is he ugly enough?
    
    Mikef

    Slade's 'Come on Feel the Noise' has been covered by our boys with 
    special cuttings having been made and sent to all 92 Football League
    Grounds for the weekends games. Why, I don't know, but needless to say
    having heard their effort, it is no great departure from the original. 
    
    Quelle suprise.
    
    Andy
                                                                      

    
 >>   having heard their effort, it is no great departure from the original. 
 >>   Quelle suprise.
    
    a bit like their cover of 'You've got hide your love away', production,
    singing and guitar work aren't as good but other than that it's faithful
    to The Beatles original, right down to the fake Scouse accents....
    
    G. %^)                                           

Is there a new single out? One not off Morning Glory? I heard something the 
other day which sounded like very sub-standard Oasis . . .

Any new releases on the horizon?

grahame

    I don't think there is anything due... but what you heard could have
    been any one of a hundred bands at the mo...
    
    
    m
    

    Could have been "Rolling Stone" by The Real People, who claim to have
    been doing Oasis for years before Oasis have.
    
    dickie.

    RE:Real People
    
    They did the backing voacals on "Shakermaker" (or "Supersonic" and are 
    quoted as saying something like "We did them a favour, perhaps they can
    do us one in return". They certainly were trudging their wares around
    before Oasis hit the big time (they may have been on a free tape last
    year - I will have a look) and I think they have a point about being
    Oasisish before the Gallaghers + Co made it. Perhaps they have honed
    the sound a liitle 'cos when I saw the vid the other week I was not
    looking at the screen when it started and thought "Hey, a new Oasis
    single" as well.
    
    
    			Stretch.

    They were the support for Cast when I went to see them.. I seem to
    remember they were quite good.  I was very drunk however.  have they
    got two brothers in the group as well????
    
    Andrea

    
    an expected reply from me I suppose, but there are 100's of bands out
    there that were 'Oasis' ish before Oasis - you mat remember some fo
    them, 'The Beatles' for instance ?? where do you thing they got
    the sound from ?
    
    G.

    The Real People were never as Oasisish as they are now, don't you think
    the Real People sound more like Oasis than the Beatles anyway. All of
    these bands are about fifth generation Beatles copyists now anyway.
    Remember Freiheit (I wish I didn't) they were a copy of ELO who were
    the bastard half sister of the Beatles as well, now they didn't sound
    like Oasis, did they?
    
    dickie.

    Whatever happened to Klaatu?
    
    m

    
    Klaatu ! I remember them, all those rumours about the Beatles reforming
    as a new band, not wanting folks to find out who they really were...
    turned out to be Klaatu cashing in on peoples eagerness to believe the
    Beatles really would reform...
    
    ELO & Oasis:- I'd agree that ELO don't sound like Oasis - far to
    polished and orchestrated for that - but the orchestration that Oasis
    have 'borrowed' from The Beatles is the same stuff that ELO 'borrowed'.
    
    G.

    I know that there is nothing new under the sun, but Oasis have produced
    some boppy little tunes, whatever they borrowed...  I like
    'Wonderwall'.
    
    Sorry....
    
    mikef

    What, the Mike Flowers version!

    *Especially* the Mike Flowers version....!
    
    Well, it was fun for a week or two anyway.  Since I dont listen to
    daytime Radio 1, I don't get over-exposed to any individual tunes.
    
    
    m

    I tend to catch a lot of stuff on the cable channels (MTV, The Box)
    while skimming at night and I will usually stumble across something
    decent every now and then. Other than that its the evening session
    while washing up/cooking for pointers to good choons. 
    
    Bring back Noisy Mothers I say!

    Oasis are good
    
    HTH
    
    Andrea

    re-2
    
    I'm glad I'm not the only one locked inthe kitchen every evening...
    Yes - thats the wya I get to hear new choones also.
    
    m

    It's not a choice thing, Mike!

    Confirmed supports for Oasis (Mad for unquantifiable it) at Knebworth..
    
    The Prodigy (mad Keith)
    Manic Street Preachers (mad Richie?)
    Ocean Colour Scene (mild Steve)
    Chemical Brothers (1/2 a bitter shandy Ed)
    Bootleg Beatles (dead John)
    
    dickie.r.
    

    So can Oasis survive the latest chapter??  Has Liam really got
    larangytis or can he just not be arsed anymore??  Have they blown in in
    the US ??  Do they care??  Can Noel make it on his own??  These
    questions and more will be answered soon.
    
    What will Liam do though if Noel goes down a storm in the states, where
    can he play his tamborine in the future??
                         
    Andrea

    The news report I heard this morning said that Liam couldn't be
    bothered to go to the States as he was going house-hunting with Patsy
    Kensit.
    
    Goldy.

    Its interesting stuff, but it will all blow over.  Lets be honest - if
    you had to make a choice between several weeks on a cramped tour bus
    with a bunch of sweaty blokes, or hanging out with Patsy Kensit, what
    would you choose?  
    
    mikef
     

    Need you ask?
    
    Goldy.

    Liam will find his house, take some Dequacaine and fly to the states,
    make up with Our Kid and all will be well.  Good comment about Yanks
    yesterday though!!  Re the choice between PK and the sweaty tourbus - I
    know which I would go for,  just pass me some deodorant and some lager!!!!
                                                                          
    Andrea

    Call me odd but given the choice it would have to be the tourbus over
    PK (actually I just wonder what Andrea looks like lagered up!!!)
    
    
    
    		
    				Stretch.

    RE Largered up:  Absolutely awful, but who cares at that stage.  
    
    I see Liam is off to the US of A and all is well.  What a top job that
    would be, chief hanger on with Oasis.  Maybe I should put it down in my
    career plan- could even have a lager with Robbie W.
    
    Andrea