Conference marvin::uk_music

    
    OR....
    
    Possibly not. :^)
    
    Mark

    Maybe four lads from Liverpool with longish hair are also in the 
    running...
    
    Echo & The Bunnymen!! :-) 
    
    

    Barry,

    It's surprising that it's taken this long for an ABBA note to
    materialise.  I could enter thousands of notes thousands of lines
    long on how wonderful they were, but I just ain't got the time.

    Voulez-vous?

    Goldy.

    Ackshirley, some of the best versions of songs are the ones they
    recorded in Spanish.

	Is ABBA - The Movie on tonight after The Word? I think it is.

	Also this is the first film I went to with a young lady. I didnt
	take her out, my dad took us both out. Ooh. I'm filling up.

	Fridge

    re .2 
    
    On both counts (Bunnymen and Beatles) there's technically only 3
    left because of some minor point called death. As far as I know 
    all four members of ABBA have thus far avoided motorcycle fatalities
    and assassination in usual keeping with their professionalism. The
    sort of pop group mother would like to meet.  
    

    
    Awwwwwwww, come on.
    
    The most exciting death that an ABBA member could hope for is death
    from excess sugary and sweetness!!
    
    I'll come clean and admit I went through an ABBA phase, but by the time
    this dreadful production appeared they had lost any appeal they may
    have once had. A viewing of this movie is likely to reinforce the feeling
    that Punk really was LOOOOOONG overdue!
    
    Mark

Let's face it, we've all been through an Abba phase.  It's nothing to be
embarassed about, this is the 90's after all.

Though not exactly Abba, how 'bout 'dem Army Of Lovers?  A gal and 2 goons from
Stockholm (I think) who are so camp they make Julian Clary look like Arnold
Schwarzenegger.  None of them play any instruments on their records, yet they're
still making possibly the best of that gay disco sound around.  Wierd.  Look
out for the video of `Crucified' for further proof...

Lee

    
    Camp is the word!!!! Brilliantly so.
    
    Mark

    >> A viewing of this movie is likely to reinforce the feeling
    >> that Punk really was LOOOOOONG overdue!
    
    It's also likely to reinforce the feeling that the works of 
    Rotten, Strummer, October, Hell, Idol & James, Weller, paled
    into insignificance alongside the real protest anthems of the
    time i.e., "Money, Money, Money" and "Fernando." Swap the sound
    of the Westway and the Bromley contingent for the Pop sensibilities 
    of Polar Studios, Stockholm; the real sound of the suburbs. All 
    credit to Costello though who later covered "Knowing Me, Knowing 
    You." 
    
    Barry.
    
     

    
    Wasn't 'Waterloo' all about the hassles of commuting from the suburbs
    into the ratrace each day?
    
    Mark

    
    Do I understand this conversation right and
    is ABBA "the movie" on telly tonight????
    BBC1 or BBC2?
    
    I've always liked their music and I went to 
    the movie when I was about 9 or 10 years old!
    I thought it was great then, and I'd like to see it again!
    
    Ciao!
    Ilse*
                      

re .9

    Barry,

    I must pick you up for not mentioning the Croydon punks ( also 
    in the forefront of the movement), and also when it comes to anthems
    of the 70's you have omitted to mention the sputum inducing "Thank you
    for the Music" - boy did we ever go crazy to that one.

    Bjorn Three.
    

    RE.7 on "Army of lovers".
    
    Camilla is the name of that gorious bit in A.O.L. and she has her own
    extravaganza club in Stockholm.
    Also watch their other vid."Obsession".
    
    Their soon to be released new single is called "Ride the bullit". I
    wonder what they mean by that. ;^)P
    
    Jan.

    � Their soon to be released new single is called "Ride the bullit". I
    � wonder what they mean by that. ;^)P
    					^
    					|
    I hope that's your tongue hanging out, Jan! :^)
    
    Mark

    RE-1
    
    Yes Mark,it is my tongue.Cuz that lady(Camilla)is a"hot"piece of
    equipment to handle and I might say she's original with it too....
    I mean her sexy performance....;*)
    
    Jan. 

    � Yes Mark,it is my tongue.Cuz that lady(Camilla)is a"hot"piece of
    � equipment to handle and I might say she's original with it too....
    � I mean her sexy performance....;*)
    
    I'll have to take your word for her handling characteristics (sadly!
    :^)). I agree that she's a sexy performer, makes Madonna's crude
    posturing look pretty pathetic IMHO (But I've never really been a man
    for peroxide blondes! :^)).
    
    Mark
    

    RE -1
    
    As for peroxide(or for that matter"natural blondes)blondes Mark,hear
    hear,I agree.Did you know that lady"Camilla"has a university masters
    degree so I'm told.I'll search which masters she's got.Infact,all 3
    have that.
    
    BTW this is the ABBA topic...AOL should have it's own topic,agree?
        If so,you start Mark ;^)
    
    Jan.(a great fan of yet another young brunette actress named 
         Marouschka Detmers)

    1. Abba were a fab pop group.
    
    2. But not as good as Madness.
    
    3. Punk was not a kick against pop, it was a kick against the overblown
       excess of self-indulgent gits like 10cc, the Eagles, Yes, ELP etc
       etc. etc.
    
    Eye thenk yew.
    
    
    Bob

    ear ear
    
    

    It Must Be Love by Madness has been re-released.  Brilliant.

    Less than half the replies to this topic refer to ABBA. Perhaps it
    should be called Not the ABBA Note.
    
    
    Balders (of the glittery suit and blonde wig)

    Could someone give me a pointer to the "Bjorn Again" note, please?
    
    Bob

    I'm sick to death by people in their twenties who regret liking Abba
    when they were young.   Abba was the era in which they grew up in.  I'm
    only 16 but I'm appreciating their music more and more as I get older.  

    re .25
    
    I think you may find that most of the people in their twenties don't
    regret liking ABBA, but regret following fashion and rejecting ABBA
    when they ceased to be popular. Most geriatrics over twenty become more
    objective and less concerned with fashion. Well, maybe not most, but a
    good percentage. With age comes a pig-headed tendency to judge things
    on their own merits rather than succumb to peer and media marketing
    pressure. 
    
    Of course I may just be a boring old f*rt wittering on in his dotage...
    
    Balders

	Just a fart's opinion; I don't regret liking them.  I love Lush's
	version of "Hey Hey Helen" and think it's pretty cool that bands
	like them perform songs from that period.  (Gee that's sounds like
	a dated statement.)  Didn't they have quite the studio at the time
	in terms of state of the art technology, Polar Studios, if...

	- Jim

   Well I didn't like them then, and still don't.

   But I remember being glad when they won the Eurovision Song Contest...
   -but only because they looked like a glam rock group.

   By the way I have some ABBA images if people want me to clutter
   up the topic like I did in the Cocteau Twins note.

   Dave

    
    Well, I may have started this train of thought with my comments and
    I humbly apologise for regretting liking ABBA (Did I really say that?).
    
    What I'd say now is that when I was 12 I thought ABBA were great (and
    indeed compared with much of the competition they were), but most
    people's tastes change over time and I find ABBA's records (especially
    their later recordings) horribly twee and just a little pretentious
    now.
    
    I don't think it was a change of fashion which swayed me away from
    them. I think it was a case of me growing up and them growing overblown
    and self-adulent!
    
    Mark

	This just happened to catch my eye some philharmonic orchestra,
	Germany possibly has a record out of their songs.  I can't say 
	that I've even heard any of Abba's current stuff these days.

	- Jim

	Three pics of ABBA, in b/w, postscript.

	Available for a limited period at...

	JOBBIE::PUBLIC_W$:[PATTISON.ABBA]*.PS

	Dave

    John Peel, some years back, played a track from an album of 
    ABBA songs played Indian style. If only I could find it.
    
    barry. 

    Abba wrote good, commercial music that didn't pretend to be anything
    else.  So did Lennon and McCartney (McCartney still does - sometimes)
    pre-Revolver stuff is very simple, catchy with no pretensions.
    
    Nothing to be ashamed of.
    

    � Abba wrote good, commercial music that didn't pretend to be anything
    � else.  So did Lennon and McCartney (McCartney still does - sometimes)
    � pre-Revolver stuff is very simple, catchy with no pretensions.
    
    � Nothing to be ashamed of.
    
    Well I'd hardly describe Abba and the Beatles as similar in musical
    impact, but...
    
    ABBA _did_ write good commercial, pop songs with no pretentions, but
    (as your note implies) like the Beatles definitely strayed away from
    this form of music in their later years. In the case of Lennon and
    McCartney drugs seem to be to blame, quite what ABBA were on is
    anyone's guess? OD'd on eyeshadow perhaps?
    
    Mark
    

    Four flabby gits waddling about in clothing one size too ssmall, 
    singing wally songs and thrilling everyone with close ups teeth
    more suited to a neanderthal ?
    
    Nah! ABBA should'a minced & scattered over the tundra for the wolves.
    
    cheers, martin
    
    

    
>    Nah! ABBA should'a minced & scattered over the tundra for the wolves.
    
  Revoke this man's poetic licence at once!   8^)
    
  barry.

    

    
    
    Can someone tell me the answers to these 2 questions ?
    
    1- What's the meaning of ABBA ?
    
    2- In 1973 , ABBA loose the chance to enter on the eurovision song
    contest. Which song was it ?
    
    
    I think that only a true fan could help me. Anyone ?
    
    
    Luis.(Portugal)

ABBA stands for the members' first names

A___Annifried
B___Benny 
B___Bjorn
A___Agnetha

And I'd guess that the song your looking for is "Waterloo"

"Waterloo" won the contest.

I believe that "Ring Ring" was an earlier song which was
entered but didn't win.

    
    I think Waterloo won in '74. I agree with the last note that
    Ring Ring is the answer to your second question.
    I have some vague idea (probably wrong!) that Ring Ring was rejected by
    the Swedish powers that be as their contest entry, as they preferred
    some other song.
    
    Leonie.

    
    Thanks ! But , can you confirm the song name ? 
    
    Luis.

Waterloo was definitely the song they won the contest with, so everyone's 
probably correct about "ring ring"

    1973 was definitely Ring Ring. They came second in the contest to see
    who would represent Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest.

    But did you know that Neil Sedaka co-wrote Ring Ring? (I think).
    And that Ring Ring has also been recorded in French and German.

    Jane$true_ABBA_fan

    I knew there was an ABBA note in here somewhere, and that nice Mr
    Fiddler told me to start cluttering up this topic.... ;-)
    
    ABBAmania, on my part, continues unabated. I can sing Waterloo in
    French, Ring Ring in German, and I'm mastering parts of Ring Ring and
    Waterloo, and all of Honey Honey in Swedish. I can also sing Chiquitita
    in Spanish but I do not sing in public, lucky public.
    
    But it's hilarious how songs get translated into other languages. You
    have to use some poetic licence so that the words will continue to
    rhyme and scan. The best example of this is Ring Ring. The last few
    lines of Ring Ring in English are:
    
    	And I sit all alone impatiently
    	Won't you please understand the need in me?
    	Oh-oh, ring, ring, why don't you give me a call?
    
    The Swedish version is as follows:
    
    	Om jag fick en signal, tog jag ett sprang
    	Hjartat gjorde en volt, ding-dong, bing-bong!
    	Om du ring, ring, ringde en endaste gang!
    
    I love the "ding-dong, bing-bong" bit. Cracks me up everytime I hear
    it.
    
    Goldy.

    My colleague and his girlfriend, knowing how much I like ABBA, bought
    me a "Royal Philharmonic Orchestra plays ABBA CD". Wasn't that nice of
    them.
    
    Goldy.

    no. nnttm.

    Muriel, I'm sure that 'ABBA the movie' is available cheaply on video
    also...  
    
    mikef

    It certainly is. I've seen it quite a few times. I did have it on video
    once but mislaid it when I moved house.
    
    There's an ABBA convention in Australia in March to celebrate the 20th
    anniversary of their tour (and where ABBA The Movie was filmed). Wish I
    had the money to go.
    
    Goldy.

    
    My husband is just getting back into vinyl.  If I hear the Super
    Trouper LP once more his turntable is going out the top window.
    
    Kirsty

    Kirsty,
    
    you'd be better off throwing the record out of the window, they make far
    better frisbies than turntables...
    
    G.

    Tell him not to forget the talcum powder.