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Conference vaxaxp::notes$archive:alphanotes_v1

Title:Alpha Support conference
Notice:Archived Alphanotes volume 1
Moderator:ZIMBRA::BERNARDO
Created:Tue Dec 14 1993
Last Modified:Tue Dec 27 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4578
Total number of notes:27185

83.0. "Macro compiler in EVMS?" by DSM::RDAVIS () Fri Feb 21 1992 10:26

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83.1No bundled compilersSTAR::ORGOVANVince OrgovanFri Feb 21 1992 17:053
83.2PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseMon Feb 24 1992 03:1410
83.3not so easy...OZROCK::GRIFFITHSTony, NaC (Wide-Area Networks)Mon Feb 24 1992 22:3616
83.4And don't forget FOCAL...UTRUST::TIMMERSemper TECO!Tue Feb 25 1992 01:2112
83.5Customer Support has also come to rely on having Macro32 availableLNKUGL::BOWMANBob Bowman, CSC/CS SPACE TeamTue Feb 25 1992 08:3711
83.6More on layered AMACROSTAR::ORGOVANVince OrgovanTue Feb 25 1992 18:4615
83.7rightAZTECH::LASTOVICAThere is no such thing as a diceTue Feb 25 1992 18:502
83.8Loud and Clear: "DUMB!" :)ZPOVC::HWCHOYMostly on FIRE!Tue Feb 25 1992 20:127
83.9Bundle for compatibility onlyOZROCK::FARAGO'alphalpha' n. lucerne, best fodder.Tue Feb 25 1992 21:5325
83.10cars for sale (fine print: "wheels & tires extra")DYPSS1::DYSERTBarry - Custom Software DevelopmentWed Feb 26 1992 08:3917
83.11Viewed another wayFASDER::AHERBAl is the *first* nameWed Feb 26 1992 09:377
83.12Another "yes".DSM::RDAVISWed Feb 26 1992 09:558
83.13XLIB::SCHAFERMark Schafer, ISV Tech. SupportWed Feb 26 1992 11:393
83.14We should be consistentNOOKIE::JLYNCHJohn Lynch, 339-5328, Greenbelt, MDWed Feb 26 1992 12:166
83.15Another yes for MACROCREB::BOYDWed Feb 26 1992 13:285
83.16yes, at least *one* programming language is neededHANNAH::OSMANsee HANNAH::IGLOO$:[OSMAN]ERIC.VT240Wed Feb 26 1992 13:3622
83.17EVMS::NORDLINGERAlpha/VMS . DTN 381-1637Wed Feb 26 1992 13:486
83.18What are the real requirements?MLTVAX::TEKOA::RAITTOHope that is seen is not hopeWed Feb 26 1992 15:5293
83.19Support could adapt in a number of ways...LNKUGL::BOWMANBob Bowman, CSC/CS SPACE TeamWed Feb 26 1992 16:3811
83.20OZROCK::HARTWIGArthur Hartwig, TaN Engineering-AustraliaWed Feb 26 1992 17:2914
83.21how about this ZPOVC::HWCHOYMostly on FIRE!Wed Feb 26 1992 20:5019
83.22non-optimising C?PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseThu Feb 27 1992 02:1615
83.23Default LanguageKBOMFG::ARMSTRONGDave, DTN 864-4313Thu Feb 27 1992 03:3519
83.24Negative input... sorryMOVIES::WIDDOWSONIts (IO$_ACCESS|IO$M_ACCESS) VMSThu Feb 27 1992 04:149
83.25A "System" Programming Language MUST be PresentPAPERS::WINNThe High King's MonomachThu Feb 27 1992 05:4550
83.26My final nickel's worthNOOKIE::JLYNCHJohn Lynch, 339-5328, Greenbelt, MDThu Feb 27 1992 08:4321
83.27Yes, hobble DEC C and ship that with every systemMUDDY::WATERSThu Feb 27 1992 09:386
83.28Make a language be standard with VMS, but deletableJANUS::BARKERJeremy Barker - T&N/CBN Diag. Eng. - Reading, UKThu Feb 27 1992 09:4419
83.29EVMS::NORDLINGERAlpha/VMS . DTN 381-1637Thu Feb 27 1992 09:489
83.30MLTVAX::TEKOA::RAITTOHope that is seen is not hopeThu Feb 27 1992 11:1848
83.31ZPOVC::HWCHOYMostly on FIRE!Thu Feb 27 1992 11:2821
83.32If VMS is VMS, is MACRO-32 part of VMS?HIGHD::FISHERVMS/Cheshire Virtual Cats!Thu Feb 27 1992 11:4927
83.33MLTVAX::TEKOA::RAITTOHope that is seen is not hopeThu Feb 27 1992 12:0018
83.34NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Feb 27 1992 12:2120
83.35PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseThu Feb 27 1992 12:4617
83.36my 2�AZTECH::LASTOVICAThere is no such thing as a diceThu Feb 27 1992 13:313
83.37Tiny CULTRA::PROBINSONJust causing trouble...Thu Feb 27 1992 14:4131
83.38Bliss... NO WAY!!!OZROCK::GRIFFITHSTony, NaC (Wide-Area Networks)Fri Feb 28 1992 01:448
83.39PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseFri Feb 28 1992 04:0620
83.40MACRO-32 doesn't do 64-bitMLTVAX::TEKOA::RAITTOHope that is seen is not hopeFri Feb 28 1992 09:443
83.41Provide a compiler but strongly differentiate it with one we sellGAUCHE::jnelsonJeff E. NelsonFri Feb 28 1992 10:0724
83.42ULTRA::PROBINSONJust causing trouble...Fri Feb 28 1992 10:2655
83.43Braindamaged C is the way to goSMAUG::GARRODAn Englishman's mind works best when it is almost too lateFri Feb 28 1992 23:2222
83.44EVMS::NORDLINGERAlpha/VMS . DTN 381-1637Sat Feb 29 1992 19:417
83.45EEMELI::PEURASun Mar 01 1992 09:229
83.46PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseSun Mar 01 1992 10:2030
83.47How about limiting "C" interaction also?HIGHD::FISHERVMS/Cheshire Virtual Cats!Sun Mar 01 1992 11:0424
83.48Look to the future: Sell C++ and give C awayRANGER::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsSun Mar 01 1992 13:5624
83.49agreeing with .48ZPOVC::HWCHOYMostly on FIRE!Sun Mar 01 1992 19:512
83.50Aye to CVAXWRK::TURNERLarry TurnerSun Mar 01 1992 20:5411
83.51agreeing with the recent repliesMORO::MCVICKER_GRdi s int e g rati o nMon Mar 02 1992 00:5923
83.52PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseMon Mar 02 1992 04:1246
83.53MOVIES::WIDDOWSONIts (IO$_ACCESS|IO$M_ACCESS) VMSMon Mar 02 1992 06:3012
83.54MLTVAX::TEKOA::RAITTOHope that is seen is not hopeMon Mar 02 1992 11:0939
83.55ULTRA::PROBINSONJust causing trouble...Mon Mar 02 1992 12:1523
83.56ULTRA::WITTENBERGSecure Systems for Insecure PeopleMon Mar 02 1992 15:1410
83.57Vote for GEMCVNOTSC::ERBENKarl 'Zak' Erben, CSC Vienna, AustriaMon Mar 02 1992 17:4225
83.58GCC 2.0 would be a good choice once stableKASINO::NEIDECKERSoftware Motion PicturesTue Mar 03 1992 02:344
83.59Include MACRO-64 onlyDYPSS1::DIXONGrant DixonTue Mar 03 1992 09:0622
83.60What actually needs MACRO?HIGHD::FISHERVMS/Cheshire Virtual Cats!Tue Mar 03 1992 11:045
83.61TPARSEMLTVAX::TEKOA::RAITTOHope that is seen is not hopeTue Mar 03 1992 16:488
83.62PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseWed Mar 04 1992 03:4531
83.63Include MACRO-64UNYEM::SOJDALWed Mar 04 1992 08:2718
83.64MLTVAX::TEKOA::RAITTOHope that is seen is not hopeWed Mar 04 1992 09:3324
83.65NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Mar 04 1992 10:538
83.66Who said we were competing with VMS?TRCP39::millerBob Miller, DTN 637-3461Wed Mar 04 1992 13:0520
83.67VMS penetration of UNIX space?MLTVAX::TEKOA::RAITTOHope that is seen is not hopeWed Mar 04 1992 14:504
83.68Include MACRO-64VAXSYS::ALEXANDRENo, we never had to...Wed Mar 04 1992 15:1217
83.69TLE::REAGANJust who is better? Dan or Dave?Wed Mar 04 1992 16:4015
83.70TAGART::RODANThu Mar 05 1992 03:129
83.71PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseThu Mar 05 1992 03:4339
83.72NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Mar 05 1992 10:336
83.73Got internal opinions, now try customers!PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseThu Mar 05 1992 11:2818
83.74STAR::CRITZRichard Critz, VMS DevelopmentThu Mar 05 1992 13:158
83.75Compiling /NOOPTIMIZE is CRUCIAL for debuggingGAUCHE::jnelsonJeff E. NelsonThu Mar 05 1992 14:2728
83.76Don't forget LIB$TPARSENOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Mar 05 1992 15:135
83.77UNIX is penetrating the VMS marketTRCP39::millerBob Miller, DTN 637-3461Thu Mar 05 1992 15:226
83.78tparse language compiler?AZTECH::LASTOVICAThere is no such thing as a diceThu Mar 05 1992 15:284
83.79NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Mar 05 1992 16:0714
83.80Yes, let's do market research!!!!!!!!!VAXWRK::TURNERLarry TurnerThu Mar 05 1992 18:589
83.81If it is ALL there on a CD, we only need a PAK!KERNEL::TRAVELLJohn T, UK_Remote_Services_SupportFri Mar 06 1992 05:2713
83.82ok except for .0DSM::MUENCHI'd rather be writing MACROFri Mar 06 1992 10:2210
83.83A combination may be the best solution...ULTMAT::BELANGERA ROSE by anyother name, would not be manageableFri Mar 06 1992 11:1734
83.84Let's further clarify the requirementsDR::BLINNDon't say it meanFri Mar 06 1992 14:5542
83.85Gee, there are a lot of young whipper-snappers here....CVG::PETTENGILLmulpTue Mar 10 1992 20:3742
83.86There are legitimate uses for TPARSEJANUS::BARKERJeremy Barker - T&N/CBN Diag. Eng. - Reading, UKWed Mar 11 1992 09:1017
83.87ASIA::MCLEMANJeff McLeman, Alpha/VMS DevelopmentWed Mar 11 1992 10:585
83.88GIVE IT ALL AWAY KXOVAX::ISAAC$cmkrnl_s routin=crashit ; when pick slip arrivesWed Mar 11 1992 22:1340
83.89BHAJEE::JAERVINENThis space intentionally blahblahThu Mar 12 1992 04:4610
83.90HSOMAI::PALOTarzan was a bluesmanThu Mar 12 1992 07:316
83.91is anyone *really* listening?NOOKIE::JLYNCHJohn Lynch, 339-5328, Greenbelt, MDThu Mar 12 1992 08:294
83.92Have you entered a QAR?CVMS::DOTENstay hungryThu Mar 12 1992 09:384
83.93STAR::CRITZRichard Critz, VMS DevelopmentThu Mar 12 1992 12:294
83.94Yes we're listeningSTAR::ORGOVANVince OrgovanThu Mar 12 1992 17:024
83.95Yes, Alpha VMS PM has the action item...STAR::DZENDOLETFri Mar 13 1992 17:3912
83.96Rdb precompilers use MACROMEO78B::TINKLERGreg T, DECtp, Rdb & DECforms to goSat Mar 14 1992 03:2947
83.97NAPIER::MCAFEESteve McAfeeMon Mar 16 1992 09:115
83.100macro-32 development, supportXLIB::BAILEYMon Mar 16 1992 09:2417
83.101PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseMon Mar 16 1992 09:304
83.98TLE::REAGANJust who is better? Dan or Dave?Mon Mar 16 1992 10:014
83.99Why every layered product is not available immediatelyDECWIN::FISHERI *hate* questionnaires--WorfMon Mar 16 1992 17:2024
83.102Summary? Or giving this pot another stir.FOGGYR::MURPHYjust playing the electric violin...Wed Apr 15 1992 17:4891
83.103BLKOUT::GLASERSteve Glaser DTN 226-7212 LKG1-2/A19Wed Apr 15 1992 18:2010
83.104Dan's rightDR::BLINNToo many cooks, so little mealsWed Apr 15 1992 18:5317
83.105CLARID::HODSMANThe GiraffeThu Apr 16 1992 08:147
83.106no macro32. no happy customers.PRMS07::JLYNCHJohn, Sr Consultant Greenbelt MDThu Apr 16 1992 09:3712
83.107NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Apr 16 1992 10:338
83.108One groups reason for compiling/linking during installationULTMAT::BELANGERA ROSE by anyother name, would not be manageableThu Apr 16 1992 10:4514
83.109TLE::REAGANJust who is better? Dan or Dave?Thu Apr 16 1992 11:067
83.110state-of-the-art .ne. state-of-the-industryHANNAH::BAYJimThu Apr 16 1992 13:3051
83.111The root of macro's evil characterMLTVAX::TEKOA::RAITTOHope that is seen is not hopeThu Apr 16 1992 16:2747
83.112If you can't do it in TECO, it's not worth doing.PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseFri Apr 17 1992 03:594
83.113Can you MUNG on Alpha?ATPS::BLOTCKYFri Apr 17 1992 11:126
83.114please!AZTECH::LASTOVICAThere is no such thing as a diceFri Apr 17 1992 12:383
83.115C for CISC, BLISS for RISCCVG::PETTENGILLmulpSat Apr 18 1992 22:273
83.116TALLIS::KIRKMatt KirkSun Apr 19 1992 11:336
83.117PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseMon Apr 20 1992 04:4710
83.118Re: Macro compiler in EVMS?QUABBI::"[email protected]"Bob KernsMon Apr 20 1992 10:09109
83.119ATPS::BLOTCKYMon Apr 20 1992 12:1657
83.120Back to .0MLTVAX::TEKOA::RAITTOHope that is seen is not hopeMon Apr 20 1992 12:536
83.121Re: Macro compiler in EVMS?QUABBI::"[email protected]"Bob KernsMon Apr 20 1992 13:49101
83.122Decision made - Announcement pendingSTAR::DIPIRROMon Apr 20 1992 14:293
83.123ATPS::BLOTCKYMon Apr 20 1992 15:0511
83.124Perhaps a bit late, but..DR::BLINNEASYnet Explorer ScoutMon Apr 20 1992 17:336
83.125It looks like SUN will bundle an ANSI C compiler...OZROCK::FARAGOalphalpha: n. lucerne, best fodder.Mon Apr 20 1992 21:1017
83.126There WILL be assemblersSLBLUZ::BROCKUSI'm the NRA.Tue Apr 21 1992 12:0932
83.127Lets put this to rest...STAR::BSYBEE::EGOLFJohn C. Egolf ZKO3-4/Y17 x381-1241Tue Apr 21 1992 13:5919
83.128re:C is for CISC, etc. -- It's a joke, son (mostly)CVG::PETTENGILLmulpWed Apr 22 1992 00:3358
83.129PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseWed Apr 22 1992 04:2311
83.130steam engines for the 21th century?SUOSW3::HAMANNWed Apr 22 1992 04:3024
83.131Imagine debugging a natural-language device driver!PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseWed Apr 22 1992 05:0827
83.132it's time to stop p*ssing into the wind...OZROCK::GRIFFITHSTony, NaC (Wide-Area Networks)Wed Apr 22 1992 05:5633
83.133Some input from USENETTAVENG::FENSTERYaacov FensterWed Apr 22 1992 07:32145
83.134jsbem.marDELNI::MCGORRILLIts your turn anyway..Wed Apr 22 1992 17:22230
83.135Re: Macro compiler in EVMS?QUABBI::"[email protected]"Paul A VixieThu Apr 23 1992 03:1924
83.136Re: Macro compiler in EVMS?QUABBI::"[email protected]"Bob KernsThu Apr 23 1992 08:0945
83.137NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Apr 23 1992 09:496
83.138Open up with free compilersHSOMAI::PALOTarzan was a bluesmanThu Apr 23 1992 11:079
83.139You get what you pay forSTAR::DIPIRROThu Apr 23 1992 14:4819
83.140Not just "a motion afoot"HERON::KAISERFri Apr 24 1992 09:0513
83.141Re: Macro compiler in EVMS?QUABBI::"[email protected]"Bob KernsSat Apr 25 1992 22:0953
83.142Just bring us to a grinding haltSTAR::DIPIRROMon Apr 27 1992 12:415
83.143Re: Macro compiler in EVMS?QUABBI::"[email protected]"Bob KernsMon Apr 27 1992 19:3942
83.144Reality is not always what one would like...LNKUGL::BOWMANBob Bowman, CSC/CS SPACE TeamMon Apr 27 1992 23:238
83.145STAR::ROBERTTue Apr 28 1992 09:3915
83.146re: DECUS softwareLNKUGL::BOWMANBob Bowman, CSC/CS SPACE TeamTue Apr 28 1992 11:197
83.147STAR::ROBERTTue Apr 28 1992 11:3316
83.148They call the right support center. CSC32::B_HIBBERTWhen in doubt, PANICTue Apr 28 1992 21:0918
83.149PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseWed Apr 29 1992 03:2617
83.150If the systems appears not to work we own the problemJANUS::BARKERJeremy Barker - T&N/CBN Diag. Eng. - Reading, UKWed Apr 29 1992 07:1612
83.151ATPS::BLOTCKYWed Apr 29 1992 13:2816
83.152time for a topic on unsupported softwareTARKIN::OUELLETTEZen ArcadeWed Apr 29 1992 13:5014
83.153Urban legendCOSBY::TIBBERTLee Tibbert DTN 276-8040Wed Apr 29 1992 20:017
83.154Exactly right. CSC32::B_HIBBERTWhen in doubt, PANICWed Apr 29 1992 22:5818
83.155Back to your scheduled program...SLPSTK::ILESMike Iles - UK Alpha Resource CentreThu Apr 30 1992 05:039
83.156SUN unbundles C compiler (we can use their arguments)OZROCK::FARAGOalphalpha: n. lucerne, best fodder.Thu May 07 1992 03:5168
83.157We may be smarter than Sun was.ATPS::BLOTCKYThu May 07 1992 12:2824
83.158CVG::THOMPSONDECWORLD 92 Earthquake TeamThu May 07 1992 15:344
83.159Unbundling doesn't necessarily save or make money.TALLIS::HERDEGMark Herdeg, DTN 226-6520Fri May 08 1992 12:2215
83.160Bundling is not freeSMOP::GLOSSOPKent GlossopFri May 08 1992 13:3843
83.161Not C, but there is unbundling going onMLTVAX::TEKOA::RAITTOHope that is seen is not hopeFri May 08 1992 18:4616
83.162C without its' RTL?NICCTR::MANLEYThu Jul 16 1992 11:096
83.163RE: .-1, Resolving Other Dependencies?XDELTA::HOFFMANSteve @ ZKOThu Jul 16 1992 11:5215
83.164I think it's workable.NICCTR::MANLEYFri Aug 28 1992 16:0155