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Conference napalm::musclecars

Title:Musclecars
Notice:Noter Registration - Note 5
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Mon Mar 11 1991
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:182
Total number of notes:5467

111.0. "YENKO's" by COMPLX::C_WILLIAMS (Hammer) Mon Jun 14 1993 11:44

    
    
    	I have the opportunity to purchase a '67 Yenko Chevelle for
    	$5500.  I have only heard of Yenko Camero's and Nova's.  Does
    	anybody know about the Chevelles?  This one is fully documented
    	and has a 435 hp 427 in it.  In particular, does anybody know
    	what a mint one would sell for?  '67 Chevelles bore me but this
    	may be a great investment.
    
    
    	Hammer.
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111.1WMOIS::DENINE_VMon Jun 14 1993 13:175
    Yeah, they made some .Baldwin motion made most of the 427 chevelles'.
    I thought that they were ALL of the 68 and 9 vintage however.I'll look
    up the information and give you some specifics later.
    
         
111.2COMPLX::C_WILLIAMSHammerMon Jun 14 1993 14:115
    
    So perhaps the '67 would be more rare?  The guy that has it says he's
    got the paperwork to prove it!  Would appreciate any info you can dig
    up for me, Val.  Think it could go for $25K?  Is Yenko still around so
    I can get more information directly?
111.367 Yenko?BRAT::FLEURY_WMon Jun 14 1993 14:289
    In reply to .0 and .1 I beleive .1 is correct from what I remember
    seeing.  I remember seeing 68 and 69 style Yenko Chevelles but I have
    never seen one with the old body style that the 67 had.  I do not know
    much about Chevrolets so I am not sure if they never made any in 67 or
    not but I have never seen one and I din't think they made a 67 Yenko. 
    Just what I have seen though so I don't know if I am correct or not
    maybe a GM Guru out there could help us out.
    				Walter Fleury
    
111.4Sounds strangeIAMOK::FISHERTue Jun 15 1993 09:1311
    
    Hammer,
    
    If I'm not mistaken, Yenko turned their magic on 68-9 Chevelles only.
    I've yet to hear of a `67, never mind one with the 435 horse 427.  Most 
    Yenkos, if not all, were equipped with the L-72 427 rated at 425 hp.
    
    Perhaps I can consult my Chevy guru for a definitive answer.
    
    Tom
    
111.5COMPLX::C_WILLIAMSHammerTue Jun 15 1993 10:268
    
    
    I'd appreciate the help, guys.  Everybody I talk to says, "I'm not sure
    but...".  Is the Yenko dealership still around?  I believe that I once
    saw an article about a '67 Nova Yenko!  If I'm remembering that one
    correctly, then Yenko was doing some magic in '67.
    
    Are there 425hp AND 435hp 427's?  I'm not up on this.
111.6Be carefulIAMOK::FISHERTue Jun 15 1993 10:4424
    
    HAMMER,
    
    Yes there are 425 and 435 HP 427's.  The L-72 is the aluminum head
    square port 427, and the 435 horse is a tripower equipped motor
    installed in '67-`69 Corvettes.  It's code is (I think) L-89.  There
    was also a hydraulic cammed L-89 factory rated at 400 Horsepower.
    Garden variety oval port 4V 427's were rated at 385-390 Horsepower.
    
    Note certain about the codes.  You should do careful homework on this,
    as GM musclecars are easily faked -- nothing short of original Yenko
    documentation will prove it's authenticity.  The build sheet probably
    won't help either -- as I believe most Yenkos began life as L-78
    396's (square port -- 375 HP)  
    
    Isn't there a Yenko registry somewhere?  Why don't you call Musclecar
    Review Magazine and ask if they have an address.
    
    About Yenko Chevrolet -- Don Yenko died several years ago in a small
    plane crash.  I don't know if the dealership still exists, though it
    used to be located in Canonsburg PA.
    
    Tom
    
111.7Be very careful...ESKIMO::MANUELETue Jun 15 1993 15:1314
    I did some checking on the Yenko's last night. From what I have been
    able to find Yenko modified Camaro's and Corvairs in 67, Camaro's only
    in 68 and Camaro's, Chevelles and Nova's in 69. This is from several
    issues of Car Review and Musclecar Review. The 67 Camaro's were
    originally 350 cars, and had no Yenko appearance changes except the
    addition of 427 emblems and Pontiac Rally II rims. Untill 69, all the
    Yenko's were engine swaps, in 69 Yenko got GM to send him COPO
    Camaros with the 427 facrory installed. I think the Chevelles and
    Nova's were still engine swaps though. 
     I found no listing of a 68 or 67 Yenko Chevelle, so be careful. Your
    best bet is to try and find a Yenko club and ask some experts there.
                                                            
                                                         John M.
    
111.8Yenko ????????/WMOIS::DENINE_VTue Jun 15 1993 15:377
    I did some digging last night.I could not come up with anything
    concrete on a 67 Yenko.However you say that it is documented.Make
    d@nm sure that the paper work is authentic and not a fake.
    Also if it were a Yenko it would have cone through as an SS chevelle.
    Then the 396 would come out and in with a 427.Check out and see if the
    car is a real SS.For 5,000 even if it is an SS that is still a fair 
    asking price
111.9Hammer time??IAMOK::FISHERTue Jun 15 1993 16:489
    
    Without a build sheet there will be no way to prove whether
    the car was originally an SS, or a big block for that matter.
    
    It's looking like this guy might be trying to hammer Hammer....
    
    8^)
    
    Tom
111.10And I thought Fords were confusing.ESKIMO::MANUELETue Jun 15 1993 17:479
    Re-2
     According to my sources the Yenko Chevelles in 69 were NOT based on
    SS's. They were special ordered at the factory as big-block hardtops.
    If this applys to the supposed 67, then there is no telling what it
    could be. Also, the COPO 427 Camaro's were not SS's either. The 67
    Camaros were originaly SS 350 cars and the 68's were SS 396 cars. 
     This is getting more confusing as we go.
                                                    John M.
    
111.11Must be some Yenko club out there!COMPLX::C_WILLIAMSHammerWed Jun 16 1993 09:2217
    
    I spoke with a guy at Year One who said Yenko made nothing prior to
    '69.  He said, if they did, it was without the YENKO Stipe Kit on it.
    His opinion was that the car ~could~ be one made by Yenko but without
    the stripe kit it would be worth much less (because it would look
    like any other '67 Chevelle).  He said you ~could~ sell it for a profit
    if you found just the right oddball collector, like those who collect
    six-cylinder Challengers.
    
    Sounds like this guy is a tad out to lunch, though, because we know
    Yenko did make stuff prior to '69.  Also, he said the car would be
    worth $3 to $7 grand.  Heck, if that IS a '67 Tri-Powered 'Vette
    engine in it, the engine alone is worth that much!
    
    I'll talk to the guy "who knows the guy" who's selling it and try to
    get some more info on the car.  Yup, sure is confusing.
    
111.12COMPLX::C_WILLIAMSHammerWed Jun 16 1993 09:268
    
    RE: .6
    
    	Tom, I phoned information in Canonsburg, PA.  They had no listing
    of a Yenko Chevy dealership.  They did, however, have a listing for
    a Yenko HONDA dealership in another town in the same area code.  Perhaps
    one of the sons?  I've been a little hesitant on phoning there (for fear
    of sounding pretty darn stupid).
111.13CRISTA::ROCHEWed Jun 16 1993 10:549
    Hammer,
    
     Yenko Honda is what exists now, no more Yenko Chevy dealership. What
    you really shoudl do is call Musclecar Review Magazine in Lakeland
    FL. I think they're doing an article on a guy who has the largest
    collection of Yenko's in the country in next month's issue. If not
    they'll know who to contact.
    
    Chris
111.14COMPLX::C_WILLIAMSHammerWed Jun 16 1993 14:183
    
    
    Cool.  So like this guy may want to buy?   8-)  I'll give 'em a call!
111.15Its a mystery Chevelle.ESKIMO::MANUELEWed Jun 16 1993 15:0613
    I did more checking on the Yenko mystery. So far I found Corvairs from
    67-69, Camaro's from 67-69, but the only ones with the striping were
    69's, 69 BB Novas, and 69 Malibu's, not Chevelles. Yenko had Chevy put
    427's in 69 Malibu's, and put SS hoods on them. They were not SS's.
    FWIW, Yenko also made Vega Stingers in the early 70's, but they were
    cosmetic only. They had stripes, front and rear spoilers and Yenko
    emblems. No engine mods. Also, some Yenko Camaro's were produced in 80
    or 81, with stripes and a Turbo taken from the Pontiac 301. Again, no
    mention of a 67 Chevelle, but its possible that someone bought a
    Chevelle at Yenko's dealership in 67 and still has the bill of sale, so
    he's calling it a Yenko Chevelle. 
                                                               John M.
     
111.16Any Yenko RamblersSTRATA::LAMOTHEGoing Down in FlammesThu Jun 17 1993 08:038
    
      Gee, and I thaught my 4 door RAMBLER Wagon was a Yenko....  :-(  I
    think the guy laughed all the way to the Banko, and I feel like a
    dinko.
    
    
    :-)
    
111.17Oops, his mistake, not mine!COMPLX::C_WILLIAMSHammerThu Jun 17 1993 08:4412
    
    
    Well, we've all learned a LITTLE bit about Yenko's here, haven't we?
    There's still a LOT that we don't know so I hope if anybody can look
    anything up, you'll put it in this topic.  BUT, I phoned my buddy
    who know's the guy that owns this car.  Turns out it is a "Baldwin
    Motion" car, not a Yenko.  My buddy knew that but told me the wrong
    maker.  I know absolutely NOTHING about these cars, so how about we
    start a NEW topic for these cars?  If you have any input on them,
    please move on to topic #113...
    
    Hammer.
111.18COMPLX::C_WILLIAMSHammerThu Jun 17 1993 09:226
    
    You know, there's still a lot of unanswered questions here.  One guy
    that I was talking to remembers the Car Craft or Hot Rod article years
    back that had a buttercup yellow '67 Nova SS YENKO!  Nobody here has
    mentioned the '67 Nova's.  I'll try to phone Musclecar Review Magazine
    later (813-646-5743).  I wonder who the leading Yenko expert is?
111.19Super Chevy articleSHARE::MALESKYWed Aug 18 1993 10:137
    The October issue of Super Chevy has an article on "the largest
    collection of YENKO's in the country". The owner of the cars says his
    restoration man is a supposed expert on YENKO cars. A call to him
    would probably answer any questions with some truth ..........
    
    
    John