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Conference jetsam::easynet

Title:EASYNET Network Notes Conference
Moderator:LUVBOT::NETWORK
Created:Wed Mar 05 1986
Last Modified:Wed May 14 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:898
Total number of notes:5772

529.0. "No more 3 character node names - why?" by CVMS::DOTEN (Right theory, wrong universe.) Fri Mar 03 1989 12:24

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529.1You must want things to be EASY..DR::BLINNAn ill-cooked chicken has died in vainFri Mar 03 1989 15:4218
529.2JETSAM::OLEARYIt Isn't Pretty Being EASYFri Mar 03 1989 22:1414
529.3Local MIS policies varyHANZI::SIMONSZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongFri Mar 03 1989 22:5913
529.4Facility/nodename conflictPOBOX::ZEISLERJim Zeisler DTN 474-5574Sat Mar 04 1989 08:3913
529.5One company, one strategy, one architecture, many hacksULTRA::HERBISONB.J.Sat Mar 04 1989 10:2823
529.6QUARK::LIONELThe dream is aliveSat Mar 04 1989 12:0010
529.7Feedback from DATA NETWORKS ADMIN.POBOX::ZEISLERJim Zeisler DTN 474-5574Sat Mar 04 1989 12:4067
529.8MYVAX::ANDERSONDave A.Sat Mar 04 1989 16:2918
529.9In simple terms, what is it?SDSVAX::SWEENEYRoads? Where we're going we don't need..roadsSat Mar 04 1989 20:3411
529.10POBOX::ZEISLERJim Zeisler DTN 474-5574Sat Mar 04 1989 21:3249
529.11QUARK::LIONELThe dream is aliveSat Mar 04 1989 21:518
529.12That we're even DISCUSSING this is amazingSTAR::BECKPaul Beck, DECnet-VAXSat Mar 04 1989 22:0117
529.13Who made that decision, anyway?CREDIT::LAWLERKaixo!Sat Mar 04 1989 22:396
529.14Typo in .12: Steve's comments were .11, not .10STAR::BECK2B or D4 - that is the questionSat Mar 04 1989 22:551
529.15Why make life difficult...GOFER::HARLEYAt home, you can scratch where it itchesSun Mar 05 1989 08:495
529.16POBOX::ZEISLERJim Zeisler DTN 474-5574Sun Mar 05 1989 10:5460
529.17Cart back behind horse; MTS back behind DECnet architectureCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertSun Mar 05 1989 11:3214
529.18innocent bystanderPOBOX::ZEISLERJim Zeisler DTN 474-5574Sun Mar 05 1989 11:4816
529.19OK, I'll try suggesting a work-aroundCVMS::DOTENRight theory, wrong universe.Sun Mar 05 1989 13:1826
529.20It's their bug, let them fix it..DR::BLINNMind if we call you Bruce?Sun Mar 05 1989 14:5726
529.21Here's a list of the current 992 3-character node namesCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Mar 06 1989 13:5262
529.22FEATHR::BLUEJAYWork is a 4-letter wordMon Mar 06 1989 15:204
529.23MU::PORTERwhat's in a name?Mon Mar 06 1989 15:438
529.24now there is a reply here from a 3 character node name :-)CVG::THOMPSONNotes? What's Notes?Mon Mar 06 1989 16:309
529.25software problem - please SPR � ;^}KUDZU::LAMPSONA dream is goal without a deadlineMon Mar 06 1989 16:3725
529.26KUDZU::LAMPSONA dream is goal without a deadlineMon Mar 06 1989 16:4113
529.27Namespace Collision in MTSVOX::SIMMYou make the cut; you make the changeMon Mar 06 1989 17:469
529.28MARVIN::WARWICKWell, that'll never workMon Mar 06 1989 18:3625
529.29More commentaryCVMS::DOTENRight theory, wrong universe.Mon Mar 06 1989 19:0339
529.30Standing by my earlier commentsSTAR::BECK2B or D4 - that is the questionMon Mar 06 1989 22:3940
529.31MYVAX::ANDERSONDave A.Mon Mar 06 1989 23:0121
529.32MARVIN::WARWICKWell, that'll never workTue Mar 07 1989 04:4824
529.33Did I miss something?HANZI::SIMONSZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongTue Mar 07 1989 07:3812
529.34Where is the ambiguity?DR::BLINNRule #5: There is no Rule 5.Tue Mar 07 1989 10:5648
529.35Maybe not a bug but an MTS design/historical issueTLE::PETERSONBobTue Mar 07 1989 11:1222
529.36QUARK::LIONELThe dream is aliveTue Mar 07 1989 12:1312
529.37I think you've overlooked something...MARVIN::WARWICKWell, that'll never workTue Mar 07 1989 13:0916
529.38Decisions made in early part of decade.DDIF::CANTORLogout and hit break.Tue Mar 07 1989 14:1178
529.39Seems inconsistantCVG::THOMPSONNotes? What's Notes?Tue Mar 07 1989 14:406
529.40this restriction does NOT have to existPSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiTue Mar 07 1989 15:5623
529.41Thanks to Trevor, tooDR::BLINNRule #5: There is no Rule 5.Tue Mar 07 1989 16:2221
529.42Dave probably asked Lin to do it, right?CURIE::SCHAFERMark SchaferTue Mar 07 1989 16:504
529.43further analysisWKRP::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), SWS, CincinnatiTue Mar 07 1989 21:04106
529.44RLAV::LITTLETodd Little, NYA SWS, 323-4475Wed Mar 08 1989 00:4633
529.45RE back some and .38WELKIN::ADOERFERHi-yo, Server! Away!Wed Mar 08 1989 07:5110
529.46Node = Location = NodeSEAPEN::PHIPPSDTN 225-4959Wed Mar 08 1989 12:13224
529.47Look what they've done to my songDFLAT::DICKSONOne box, one bowl, one spoonWed Mar 08 1989 12:1826
529.48DFLAT::DICKSONOne box, one bowl, one spoonWed Mar 08 1989 12:235
529.49COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertWed Mar 08 1989 12:3410
529.50DFLAT::DICKSONOne box, one bowl, one spoonWed Mar 08 1989 13:0811
529.51Hope for those with 3-character node namesSTP::ANDERSONThe winter that wasn't: 1988-89Wed Mar 08 1989 15:0327
529.52MYVAX::ANDERSONDave A.Wed Mar 08 1989 15:5338
529.53Question authority!MU::PORTERwhat's in a name?Wed Mar 08 1989 17:455
529.54No fix needed, let MTS lie in the bed they've madeSWILL::LITTLETodd Little, NYA SWS, 323-4475Wed Mar 08 1989 20:3854
529.55HWSSS0::SZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongWed Mar 08 1989 21:2010
529.56Should only apply to MTS nodes!MAADIS::WICKERTMAA DIS ConsultantWed Mar 08 1989 23:5029
529.57bah!PSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiThu Mar 09 1989 16:4223
529.58PSW convinced me...KONING::KONINGNI1D @FN42eqThu Mar 09 1989 18:3213
529.59No support for banHWSSS0::SZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongThu Mar 09 1989 20:1228
529.60One company, one network!SKRAM::SCHELLMark Schell, SWS, Carolinas District, 367-7040Thu Mar 09 1989 21:1343
529.61Our four-character nodename got yanked!KAOFS::READBob Read, KanataMon Mar 13 1989 17:0212
529.62STAR::MFOLEYRebel without a ClueMon Mar 13 1989 17:4912
529.63Chalk one up to lets protect the user, just kill himRLAV::LITTLETodd Little, NYA SWS, 323-4475Mon Mar 13 1989 22:535
529.64JETSAM::PILLITTERIDave PillitteriTue Mar 14 1989 08:338
529.65STAR::MFOLEYRebel without a ClueTue Mar 14 1989 11:266
529.66Were you a member of the MTS network?RBW::WICKERTMAA DIS ConsultantTue Mar 14 1989 13:3310
529.67CORE is not (and never has been) part of MTSKAOFS::READBob Read, KanataTue Mar 14 1989 17:0610
529.68CRAIG::YANKESWed Mar 15 1989 12:4415
529.69Maybe this note should be deleted - it might give them ideas...RAMBLR::MORONEYMidnight EngineeringWed Mar 15 1989 15:536
529.70I'm glad my name isn't KenULTRA::HERBISONB.J.Wed Mar 15 1989 16:014
529.71JETSAM::OLEARYIt Isn't Pretty Being EASYThu Mar 16 1989 09:386
529.72KONING::KONINGNI1D @FN42eqMon Mar 20 1989 12:205
529.73Truncation without representationBUBBLY::LEIGHBear with me.Thu Mar 23 1989 06:398
529.74SHIRE::BARTAGabriel Barta/EurMTSmgmt/GenevaThu Mar 23 1989 06:4010
529.75An MTS person willing to express himselfSHIRE::BARTAGabriel Barta/EurMTSmgmt/GenevaThu Mar 23 1989 06:456
529.76Please enlighten us about this problemRWCVAX::COULSONRoger Coulson DTN 223-6158Thu Mar 23 1989 07:3727
529.77HWSSS0::SZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongThu Mar 23 1989 08:3224
529.78KONING::KONINGNI1D @FN42eqThu Mar 23 1989 16:1310
529.79Don't think I'm being unreasonable - make rules only where neededKUDZU::LAMPSONA dream is goal without a deadlineFri Mar 24 1989 13:1351
529.80No flame, just questionsRLAV::LITTLETodd Little, NYA SWS, 323-4475Sun Mar 26 1989 21:0716
529.81PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseTue Mar 28 1989 10:5813
529.82Some answers, � la meSHIRE::BARTAGabriel Barta/EurMTSmgmt/GenevaThu Mar 30 1989 04:22109
529.83I need some more lessonsHANDVC::SIMONSZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongThu Mar 30 1989 06:5026
529.84YAS (yet another suggestion...)DDIF::TRAVISThu Mar 30 1989 13:2432
529.85Good analysisDR::BLINNM Power to the peopleThu Mar 30 1989 14:083
529.86Now we seem to be understanding each otherSHIRE::BARTAGabriel Barta/EurMTSmgmt/GenevaFri Mar 31 1989 03:1416
529.87Joe XXX has to change his name?DDIF::CANTORThis is not all rock and roll, dude.Fri Mar 31 1989 12:2517
529.88POBOX::ZEISLERJim Zeisler DTN 474-5574Fri Mar 31 1989 21:066
529.89Looking forward to itEVETPU::CANTORThis is not all rock and roll, dude.Sat Apr 01 1989 13:1211
529.90It may not be that badSHIRE::BARTAGabriel Barta/EurMTSmgmt/GenevaSun Apr 02 1989 05:028
529.91Is this limitation so restrictive?MEK::KENNEDYMaryEllen - DTEMon Apr 03 1989 09:5751
529.92HANNAH::LEICHTERJJerry LeichterMon Apr 03 1989 10:1922
529.93MYVAX::ANDERSONDave A.Mon Apr 03 1989 11:457
529.94I won't play according to these rulesSHIRE::BARTAGabriel Barta/EurMTSmgmt/GenevaTue Apr 04 1989 06:2820
529.95... so I'll have to play by your rulesHANZI::SIMONSZETOTue Apr 04 1989 11:2764
529.96KONING::KONINGNI1D @FN42eqTue Apr 04 1989 13:1316
529.97fixed in next releaseCURIE::SCHAFERMark SchaferTue Apr 04 1989 13:5310
529.98Close to the SourceJETSAM::OLEARYIt Isn't Pretty Being EASYTue Apr 04 1989 14:5537
529.99JETSAM::OLEARYIt Isn't Pretty Being EASYTue Apr 04 1989 15:0147
529.100maybe someone can help with the scope of MTS?CVG::THOMPSONProtect the guilty, punish the innocentTue Apr 04 1989 15:2715
529.101STAR::MFOLEYRebel without a ClueTue Apr 04 1989 17:2813
529.102JETSAM::OLEARYIt Isn't Pretty Being EASYTue Apr 04 1989 18:3225
529.103MEK::KENNEDYMaryEllen - DTETue Apr 04 1989 18:5328
529.104"MTS node" is precisely what?STAR::BECK- 2B or D4 - that is the questionTue Apr 04 1989 19:243
529.105Speaking of minimums...GOFER::HARLEYAt home, you can scratch where it itchesTue Apr 04 1989 22:2310
529.106Let MTS enforce their own restrictionsRLAV::LITTLETodd Little, NYA SWS, 323-4475Tue Apr 04 1989 22:4034
529.107MTS -- over 95,000 users servedHWSSS0::SZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongWed Apr 05 1989 00:2689
529.108A constructive suggestionHWSSS0::SZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongWed Apr 05 1989 00:5415
529.109My swansongSHIRE::BARTAGabriel Barta/EurMTSmgmt/GenevaWed Apr 05 1989 04:0536
529.110Inflated usage statistics?DDIF::CANTORThis is not all rock and roll, dude.Wed Apr 05 1989 09:3222
529.111Does "DAVE CANTOR @ZKO" work?DR::BLINNReality is complex, it has real and imaginary partsWed Apr 05 1989 10:147
529.112PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseWed Apr 05 1989 11:4515
529.113which them is them?RAINBO::PRAETORIUSVMS: the paperweightWed Apr 05 1989 12:2915
529.114If 3-character names go awayEXIT26::STRATTONI (heart) my wifeWed Apr 05 1989 15:018
529.115Doesn't work.DDIF::CANTORThis is not all rock and roll, dude.Wed Apr 05 1989 15:3513
529.116What's that they say about statistics?HWSSS0::SZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongWed Apr 05 1989 21:498
529.117lowest common denominatorSTAR::BUDAPutsing along...Thu Apr 06 1989 00:3711
529.118Send to: Occupant@BXB1?CRAIG::YANKESThu Apr 06 1989 10:4412
529.119Facility nameEXIT26::STRATTONI (heart) my wifeThu Apr 06 1989 14:133
529.12029 hours to get a paper messageDDIF::CANTORThis is not all rock and roll, dude.Thu Apr 06 1989 16:2137
529.121oh noDELNI::MCGORRILLIts your turn anyway..Thu Apr 06 1989 18:1511
529.122Trying to steer discussion back to original topicHWSSS0::SZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongThu Apr 06 1989 21:2825
529.123Letter to Bob McCauleyHWSSS0::SZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongThu Apr 06 1989 21:3164
529.124Reply to Gabriel BartaHWSSS0::SZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongThu Apr 06 1989 21:5033
529.125Why limit the other 40,000 nodes at all?RLAV::LITTLETodd Little, NYA SWS, 323-4475Thu Apr 06 1989 22:5424
529.126Ignorance is bliss???RTPSWS::SCHELLMark Schell, SWS, Carolinas District, 367-7040Thu Apr 06 1989 23:4541
529.127HANDVC::SIMONSZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongFri Apr 07 1989 10:2026
529.128POBOX::ZEISLERJim Zeisler DTN 474-5574Fri Apr 07 1989 11:0126
529.129DDIF::CANTORThis is not all rock and roll, dude.Fri Apr 07 1989 12:419
529.130JETSAM::OLEARYIt Isn't Pretty Being EASYFri Apr 07 1989 14:368
529.131MTS in ZKOXANADU::MORRISTom MorrisMon Apr 10 1989 20:5614
529.132Another actual exampleHANDVC::SIMONSZETOSimon Szeto @HGO, HongkongMon Apr 10 1989 22:518
529.133In case your mail is failing, too...COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Apr 13 1989 16:526
529.1346 months later and they still say no!CVMS::DOTENRight theory, wrong universe.Mon Oct 02 1989 16:1941
529.135Finally, a reasonable compromiseCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Oct 02 1989 20:066
529.136Yea, why should the software be fixed anyway?CVMS::DOTENRight theory, wrong universe.Mon Oct 02 1989 22:3722
529.137Priority of problem vs difficulty of fixingMEK::KENNEDYMaryEllen - DTETue Oct 03 1989 09:5813
529.138ALLVAX::ANDERSONDave A. (ex-MYVAX::ANDERSON)Tue Oct 03 1989 10:4812
529.139Is it a solution?CVMS::DOTENRight theory, wrong universe.Tue Oct 03 1989 10:4919
529.140DECnet Phase V will change lots of thingsDR::BLINNProcrastinate now!Tue Oct 03 1989 11:3812
529.141FIVE YEARS LATER: Has this policy been changed yet?MUNCH::FRANCINII'd like to teach the world to ping...Tue Jan 17 1995 11:3712
529.142Restrictions still in place.GVA02::BUCLINBertrand Buclin @ GEO | DTN: 821-4954Wed Jan 18 1995 04:268
529.143well, if their product is at EOL, what's the followon, and is it as brain-dead?MUNCH::FRANCINII'd like to teach the world to ping...Wed Jan 18 1995 16:166
529.144And all because of Moe - I wish I had such major issues!VARDAF::CHURCHDave Church@VBE (DTN 828-6125)Thu Jan 19 1995 07:4511
529.145GVA02::BUCLINBertrand Buclin @ GEO | DTN: 821-4954Thu Jan 19 1995 09:0012