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    Did anyone see Da'Bearz crew (Chicago Super Fans George Wendt, etc)
    open the show with the letter to McCaskey last Saturday?

    It was great, they even had Ditka give the "Live from New York..."
    line.

    I love those guys.  McCaskey ran some free publicity into the ground
    as I can't imagine the skit will continue without Ditka.

    Worst move in Bear history, including the Abe Gibron fiasco...

    I think they measured a Richter 4.3 directly over Halas' grave last
    week...

    BRING BACK DITKA --  BRING BACK DITKA -- BRING BACK DITKA --

    Regards,

    Chip_GSH_Bach

    They already said that was the last Ditka skit...

	and da cheez-sauce you see on dis letter, is
	representative of da indelible stain you have
	left on da Bears (DA Bears).....


I loved the part where they were listing the streets that they would
take so as not to go near Soldier Field.   Too funny.

I'm gonna miss that skit!


'Saw

Talk about a nightmare. Bypassing Soldier Field in that way can 30 minutes to
the drive.

The Crazy Met

    Word is fairly  strong that the Bears are getting the Cowboys Defensive
    Coordinator (can't remember his name), they expect a press conference
    today.

    Jerry Jones apparently told him to "hurry up" if he wanted to apply and
    get back to start work on the Superbowl.  He flew in town yesterday.

    From what I saw last night, he may be a good pick.  Asst Coach of the
    year in 1990, 40 years old, etc.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

>>   <<< Note 52.5 by CSOA1::BACH "They who know nothing, doubt nothing..." >>>
>>
>>    Word is fairly  strong that the Bears are getting the Cowboys Defensive
>>    Coordinator (can't remember his name), they expect a press conference
>>    today.

His name is Dave Wannestadt.

Jerry

    Chip,
    
    I sure hope that the Bears are the ones that enlist Wannestadt's 
    services and not the Giants.  He is a superb coach who I would
    hate to see in the NFC East.
     
    I also feel that he will end up as the Bear's coach because the hardest
    place to coach/play is NY.  The media is absolutely brutal and
    unforgiving.  Additionally, I believe that the Bears have a more
    talented nucleus to build around than the Giants, who have an
    experienced by older team.
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.

Word that I heard is that the Bears got him.   Media and relations with
Jimmy Johnson were his reasons for not wanting NY.


Personally, I think that George Young made another BONEHEAD play.  Now
he's down to the dregs of his list.   He OBVIOUSLY did not get his first
two choices.

Pity he didn't grab Parcells or Ditka....   the fool.


'Saw

    	TV last night showed Wannestadt talking to media. He IS the
    	new head coach for da Bears.
    
    	Scott

>    	TV last night showed Wannestadt talking to media. He IS the
>    	new head coach for da Bears.
    
I heard a portion of the press conference, and Wannesstadt deftly 
sidestepped the question of why not NY....

'Saw

But if you heard interviews of Dallas players it was somewhat clearer why
Wann... did not go to NY.

The Crazy Met

    Walter Payton inducted into the Hall of Fame.
    
    The greatest there ever was...
    
    A class act without a hic.  Ditka's last words were of Walter; "How can
    ya not win when you walk into a team with guys like Walter Payton..." 
    
    Someone will catch his +16K with the extra games and the rest periods,
    but it'll take some time...  (Unless Dickerson gets new legs...)
    
    Do_it_Sweetness!!!
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

Payton was great.  I'm happy he is in the HOF.

MY question is:  who was more talented, Payton or Gayle Sayers?  My memories of 
Sayers are clouded by time, but it seems to me that he was more talented, but, 
unfortunatley for him and football fans, had many more injuries.

=Bob=

    
    Neither compared to Jim Brown

Jim Brown was certainly more powerful than either Payton or Sayers, but he 
didn't quite have the speed of either.  I think of Brown as more a fullback, 
and the others as halfbacks.  From an estetic viewpoint, those who loved 
collisions probably liked Brown better, but those who liked speed and 
athleticism favored Sayers.

Of course in that era, I liked Paul Horning and Jim Taylor...

=Bob=

>Of course in that era, I liked Paul Horning and Jim Taylor...

Amen.

    While shopping in Kmart for some random tool...  (Argh Argh Argh Argh)

    I found a 4.00 tape called "Gayle Saaaaayers".  It has about 1/2 of 
    GS highlights...  I was at the game when his knee blew (last one)
    but I was more interested in hog dogs than football.  (About 5 or
    6)

    The tape shows most of his all time best runs.  Awesome.  He would
    have been incredible.  The whole tape is with curt gowdy (or someone
    Gowdylike) interviewing him.  

    When they spoke of "Pic" they even played the "Brians Song" music.
    <<sniff>>

    He was too much fer words.  

    I can't wait to see the Payton Tape...  (They must have one somewhere?)

    Chip_GSH_Bach                                

    
    >>but I was more interested in hog dogs than football.  (About 5 or
    >>6)
    
    What, you were 5 or 6 years old, or didja eat 5 or 6 hot dogs at the
    game(hence, spending mucho time in the Men's Room hurling the thangs
    back up, or sitting on the throne with a mondo case of the hershey
    squirts????)
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    

If memory serves me correctly, I was in 5th grade at the time Sayers
blew out his knee.   At the time, it was a major thing, his knee injury
and I remember even the Hartford Courant ran articles about knee injuries
for a couple of weeks.

I can't help but think that with the tremendous advances in medical
science and technique in the intervening years, that had Sayers blown out
his knee in this era, it would not have been career ending.  But for
the life of me I can't remember the injury.   Was it the cruciate ligament?


'SAw

    Bears lose Brad Muster to the Saints for a trade up straight in one
    Iron Haid Heyward.  I kinda like the move, although when Muster was
    healthy, he was always the deciding factor on if the offense looked 
    good or bad.
    
    He was always out or at 70% with nagging problems (back, hamstring,
    etc) and I guess the same could be said of Iron Haid...  Iron head
    was playing much better over the last two years, I hope he's the
    fullback the Bears need, and Anderson comes back to play like he
    can.
    
    The bears also picked up a db and lb in free agency, and a burner
    (can't remember the guys name right now) wide out and (IMO) great
    tight end (can't remember his name either).
    
    Go Wanny, and god bless da' bears.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

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	LAKE FOREST, Ill. (UPI) -- Dennis Gentry, who has run up 4,353 kickoff
return yards in 11 seasons, announced his retirement Monday from the
Chicago Bears.
	The 5-foot-8, 180-pound receiver-kick returner is the Bears' all time
return leader and ranks third in the NFL among active kickoff returners.
	Gentry was the Bears 1981 fourth-round draft pick from Baylor -- 89th
overall. His 171 catches are 17th in Bears history and his 2,076
receiving yards are 18th.
	Gentry's 28.8 kickoff average topped the NFL in 1986, making him the
first Bear to lead the league in a decade.

    How'd da'bears do against the Cards'?
    
    I haven't heard nuthin' about the game.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

	Phoenix		11
	da Bears	10



	hth

	billl

    
    Cards kicked butt!!  No stopping them now.

    Where's Garrison?
    

    Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa'
    
    bearz...
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach
    
    P.S.  Kinda like beating up Grandma, but what the heck, it felt good...

    Tim Worley drug addict or next come-back-of-the-century?
    
    Go Bearz.  (And take the offensive line withcha)
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Worley played really well.  He even upped the production of Anderson.
    
    Worley, Heyward, and Anderson.  If the Bears can solidify the Offensive
    Line (which has looked marginally better against the Raiders and SD)
    they can really establish the old ground game.  With Curtis Conway and
    Tom Waddle as wide outs, I hope their offense comes around.
    
    I wish Butler had a better game last week, the Bears could be 5-4 going
    into the playoff push.  The should have never missed that easy 32
    yarder to beat the Raiders...
    
    I really like Tim Worley.  He ran great given the limitations of
    working in a system for only a few weeks.  Heyward is a monster, sort
    of the "Fridge on wheels"...
    
    Chip_BEARS_Bach
    
    Since George Halas is no longer the winningest coach, I've modified my
    moniker...  
    
    A better man couldn't have taken the record away from the Pappa Bear! 
    Love that Don Shula...

    Bear beat a decent (albeit Montanaless) Cheifs team in a last minute
    game with help of a wild turn over.  That brings the boyz to 5-5 and
    in third place in the NFC-Central (Behind Detroit, The_Pack, and Mini-
    noplace).

    If the Bears can stun the Lions at home, I will hope for playoffs, if
    not they go down to rebuilding status.  Although they lucked a bit with
    KC, they unlucked more often this year with other teams.  (I'm still
    urked at the missed 32 yarder with the Raiderless)

    I'd love to see the Bears confident, and 6-5 going into the final
    stretch with a chance...

    Chip_BEARS_Bach

 Dave Wannstedt ought to be coach of the year. Can't believe he's winning
 with Harbaugh and a ready for a wheelchair Anderson. No real wideouts
 or te? Wish the Giants had gotten this real genuis instead of the teddy
 bear fun loving braindead Dannyboy.................

 mike

    Wide Outs:  1st round pick Curtis Conway is starting to shape up well,
    I think Tom Waddle is the best possession receiver playing.  Anthony
    Morgan (1st rounder from Tennessee) has been a real disappointment, but
    is starting to play better.

    Terry Obe(sp?) has come to play.  After being cut last year (I think
    the Vikings) had come to Bear camp to play ball.

    Tight Ends:  Weitgnite (sp?) is a great catching TE.  The Bearz are
    really up on him and extremely happy they had a chance for him.

    Running Backs:  Neil is 30 I believe.  They have a pounding blocking
    back (who actually prefers to block) in Iron Head Heyward.  The biggest
    move of Wanny do date may have been taking a chance on Tim Worley.  He
    ran great in the last two games.  I think Anderson, Heyward, and Worley
    can make a great backfield.

    I happen to think once some time comes between Harbough and the Ditka
    regime, Jim will pick up some real winner confidence, too.  I think 
    he has all the ability in the world to be a winner.  (I like both
    PT Willis and Shane Matthews, too)

    I think they can work out some problems in the O-line, they'll be in
    good shape.  The defense is playing great, but I figgered Wanny would
    focus in on a good "D".

    The best player the Bears have right now is DB Donnell Woolford.  The
    dude is playing pro-bowl great every game.

    Daaaaaa...  bearz.

    Chip_BEARS_Bach

    	Mike Childs would rather be a .500 team than being tied with the
    World Champion Dallas Cowboys.  Hey Mike, you have the right stuff to
    be a Patriots fan.  Plenty of room on the (budget gutted high school)
    band wagon.
    
    				/Don

    Da Bearz get their first reality check this weekend.  They must take
    the Pack to the cleaners at the big round top off the lake.
    
    Great game against the Central Division Leading Lions.  Whoop there
    it is and so goes Barry!
    
    Go Bears!
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach
    
    I had to go back to the arm patch!  The pappa bear is still #1 in my
    book!

�    Great game against the Central Division Leading Lions.  
    
    What game were you watching?

>    
>    What game were you watching?
>

It was a good game.  Nice defense by the Bears.  Great TD pass (only TD
of the game but it was a good one)....


'Saw

    Righton.

    	It was a good game to take a nap to after pigging out on turkey
    (like 80% of the NFL games this year are).  The No Fun League should
    try to market themselves as a sleep aid.
    
    				/Don

    /'r  You sure you don't have baseball mixed up with the NFL?
    
      Tim

    There's more action in one NFL play then in most Baseball games
    ive watched.  Id prefer seeing the atlanta VS San Fran Football
    game coming up over any World Series Game (Especially one with
    Toronto Involed, talk about a sleep aid).
    
    But if you want to drink beer, eat hotdogs and dont want to do it
    at home, I guess a Baseball park is a good alternative (with or
    without a game being played) :-)
    								mab

Again, it's the classic matchup of the "We want it now" generation
versus generations from a more laid back, simpler time.   Constant
action versus a more strategic, unfolding type of action.


Baseball would be a lot better if they got rid of the Designated Geek
and played on real grass.

Football would be a lot better if they got rid of domes and turf too.


'Saw

    	The NFL would be more exciting if they got rid of all the anal
    retentives who work there.  Course that would mean thousands of job 
    openings.
    
    				/Don

    
    Bash baseball all you wish, M Air, but that just amounts to a matter
    of taste, where baseball has its fans and football likewise.  Your
    statement that you'd prefer watching SF-Atlanta over any World Series
    game involving Toronto-- actually a pretty exciting team with some 
    dynamic players that has been involved in two straight memorable World 
    Series-- speaks for itself.  You don't like baseball, which is not the
    issue.  The fact is that relative to past standards these NFL games 
    have become incredibly B-O-R-I-N-G, particularly the ones that are
    supposedly selected and highlighted for national consumption on Sunday 
    and Monday nights based on the level of interest.  Even the NFL's 
    staunchest defenders are now admitting that the big college games from 
    the same damned sport, like the recent FSU-ND and ND-BC games, are  
    blowing the professionals away in terms of intrigue and excitement. 
    Fan interest will only move in the same direction.
    
    The NFL needs some new ridiculous rules changes or something to sell to
    the masses.  In a couple of years with expansion the pool is just going 
    to be further watered down producing more really bad games that the NFL
    will have to sell to TV in the wake of already plummeting ratings.
    They really had better be very careful and think ahead because the 
    vicious cycle looks ripe for turning as it did for baseball.
    
    glenn
    

    the only reason people find college FB more exciting is there's a ton
    more scoring.  I watched the BC, VS ND game and wasnt sure if either
    team had a Defense playing or not.  As for Toronto, they are the 49rs
    of baseball, they went out and bought a team.  Any team in the top 3
    salaries that wins any championship will never impress me.  I mean if
    some team was stupid enough to sign the top 10 free agents for 3 or 4
    years straight and then win 2 or 3 superbowls in a row with a 100M+
    payroll I for one would not be impressed.  If the 49rs went out and
    signed/traded for emmitt smith, troy aikman, michael irvin from dallas
    then Andre Rison, and say barry sanders, then add 3 or 4 top OL and
    DL, a few Top DB's.  Would you be impressed with them winning the SB ?
    How many free agents have toronto signed in the past 4 years ?  And
    Big name free agents at that.  The fact that they bought 2
    championships in a row makes me lose even more for the game....
    
    								mairb
    
    Basketball has a cap (My #1 sport) and now Football will have one my
    #2 sport..

    and just who did the 49ers buy for all of their superbowl titles?
    
    Joe Montana = draft pick
    Jerry Rice =  draft pick
    John Taylor =  draft pick
    Roger Craig = draft pick
    Tom Rathman = draft pick
    Brent Jones = draft pick
    Michael Carter =  draft pick
    Pierce Holt = draft pick
    Ronnie Lott = draft pick
    Keena Turner = draft pick
    
    I can't think of a single player that they bought for big bucks that
    brought them a championship.

    Yabut glenn, how do you explain these polls that show the NFL the #1
    most popular SPORT in the USA?  (Followed closely by the Faintastik
    NBA.)
    
    
    - ACC Chris

�                          -< What do you mean 49ers >-
    
    It was a hypothetical situation.
    
    MaB, you are a man born out of time.  You should have been born way
    back in early Rome.  I bet they weren't paying the Christians & Lions
    much, and you certainly didn't have to worry about free agency.

    
>    Yabut glenn, how do you explain these polls that show the NFL the #1
>    most popular SPORT in the USA?  (Followed closely by the Faintastik
>    NBA.)
    
    I know that the NFL is still vastly more popular than college football,
    and it's still slightly more popular than the NBA.  But still, relative
    to each it's on the decline.  Once the monster gets to a certain size
    it still has to feed itself...
    
    glenn
    

    > And once again, ACChris [sic] missed the point
    
    Mac, the next time I miss a point will be the first.  I'm legitimately
    concerned about demographic trends and aim interested in how Waugamain 
    can claim that the NFL is on a downward spiral despite sitting atop the 
    polls as the number 1 SPORT in America.
    
    Sounds to me like he's spouting at the mouth with no supporting
    evidence.
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    (And I wuz soooo excited to see all this activity in the Bear topic...)
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

       Maybe the 49'r "bought" teams were in reference to "If you win a SB,
    then everyone gets an extra 25k from Debartello" on top of what you
    would normally have gotten,  and we will re-do your contract....
    
      Tim

    Phoenix should have such an owner.

Just like any of this stuff, it boils down to what you like.  

That would be fine, except that after everyone states what they like,
there's always this intent or effort to show that other people are less
because they like something else.

There are very few sports I don't like.  Basketball is one of my least
favorite, but I found out last night that I really enjoy watching it
live, at the arena, as opposed to on TV.

To me, baseball is GREAT for summer -- lazy afternoons, a cool breeze,
a couple of beers, time for conversation, kind of a social event.

Football is the fall and winter, and a completely different kind of event....



Heard on WFAN the other day that the Bears could realistically win
10 this season......(just keeping to the topic)


'Saw

    If the Bears get by Green Bay this weekend, they gotta a great chance.

    Ok Toronto had to go out and buy there championship team.  But did
    San Fran or didnt they have a top 3 payroll (if not the Top) payroll
    in any of there championship years ?  And where did dallas fall in
    the payroll last year when they won the championship.  This will show
    you the difference between a Bought Team and a Championship team.
    
    								MaB

>
>    Ok Toronto had to go out and buy there championship team.  But did
>    San Fran or didnt they have a top 3 payroll (if not the Top) payroll
>    in any of there championship years ?  And where did dallas fall in
>    the payroll last year when they won the championship.  This will show
>    you the difference between a Bought Team and a Championship team.
    

You can't say that a team that has one of the highest payrolls doesn't
deserve to be called a Championship team.   So what if they did.

Talent costs -- in any venture.

San Fran got their talent through draft picks, but they aren't gonna be
foolish enough to let that talent get away by paying them an inferior
wage.

Your logical argument is leaking like a seive, and if I were you I'd
lower the lifeboats and get away before it sinks, making this giant
sucking sound, and pulling you down with it.....


'Saw

    RE: Thg Bears and potential 10 wins season.
    
    They have Tampa Bay and L.A. Rams on the road.  They have Detroit,
    Denver, and Green Bay in Chicago.
    
    Its good to see the tough teams will have to go to Soldiers to play.
    
    I don't think a bad Chicago day will much affect Denver, Green Bay,
    or Detroit...
    
    Go_Bears!
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    I've moved the latest treatise on player salaries over to the NFL topic
    so Chip can get back to discussing Da Bearz.

    ;-)  Chip and I thank you!

    Vee shall zee mine fiend!
    
    ;-)
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Rule da bearz?
    
    Da Bears have Denver and Sandersless Detroit in Chicago, and LA Rams and 
    Tampa Bay on da road.
    
    Tied for first with da Pack and Detroit.  Ahead of da pack ina tie
    breaker situation...
    
    And who woulda thought I would still be interested in football in
    December '93?
    
    Wanny is god. 
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

Da Beerz handed it to da Pack lasted Sunday.  I only got updates and highlights,
but it looks like they dominated.  I really thought the Pack had it, but I think 
their weakness at QB is showing up.  I think that Farve is mediocre, and had
been lucky most of the year, untill Sunday.

Oh well, I was wrong - hats off to da Beerz.

=Bob=

    Well out of a 30-17 game, the Bears defense scored three touchdowns.
    
    We need some help with offense.  I would love to see Wanny get some
    big time "O" coach, as opposed to Mike Shula...
    
    Picking up Ironhaid, and Worley certainly helped.  They need Harbough
    to come around and Weigtnight to get better.  If Curtis Conway plays
    like he dey think, and we get one more burner...
    
    Anyway, Harbough needs to come around allot more than he has...
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

Da Beerz is playing with mirrors right now and if they make it to the playoffs
will be exposed for the sham they are. No passing game, A lousy QB and a
suspect running game (the pickup of Worley was a great move though).

The NFC Central is once again truley medicore from top to bottom and only by
playing against each other do these teams look good to the rest of the league.

Wannestadt has done good things with the defense but they can't carry a
non-existant offense through the playoffs....

Look for the Beerz to get crushed in a 1st round playoff game against some
decent competition....

I thought the Pck would rise to the top this year but they have been up and
down more times than Mr Whammo's Yo-yo. Favre has been truly mediocre and the
running game  non-existant...

Detroit is once again showing what a good RB and a last place schedule can buy
and what a stupid coach can lose. Get Rid of Fontes in the motor city....

Minney is  also  playing with mirrors. Any team with a place for a shell of a
RB like Roger Craig must be hurting big time....

Metz

    Sanders might be back for the Bears game...
    

    That Ironhead, what a ath-a-lete, eh?

 Why he's a "near all-star"!

                                               
    > Why he's a "near all-star"!
    
    Knock it off, Tommy.  Just like Nate Newton grew to 6'7" when he's
    generously listed at 6'2" and his QB has to look down at him in the 
    huddle.  "Longtime functional veteran player", whatever...
    
    glenn
    

  Wrong. You said he was ~6 foot. I said that I *thought* he was closer
 to 6'7". The truth is that he's 6'3". What a compromise!

    
    The good thing about the Bears, as far as the Cards are concerned, is
    that their success may have shown how bad a coach Ditka was.
    
    boC

>  <<< Note 52.67 by DECWET::METZGER "America's most beloved game show host" >>>
>
>Look for the Beerz to get crushed in a 1st round playoff game against some
>decent competition....
>
>
>Metz
>

 Can't agree at all.  Likely situation sees SF winning home field, Dallas/NY
 as second bye team.  Chicago is as likely as anyone to win the central
 division.  The Dallas/NY runner-up gets the home field advantage.  So, should
 Chicago win the Central Division, they play NO/GB/Detroit/Minnesota at home
 in the first round, and have a very good chance to win there.  It seems to
 me they are very unlikely to be crushed in a first round game, unless they
 should be the #2 wild card, and Dallas the #1 wild card, and IMO that's an
 unlikely scenario.

I thought you couldn't play wild card vs. your own divisional winner...

Maybe that was 2 years ago and went away w/  the additional  wild card .

Either way I stand behind the statement that when the Bears play outside of
their division in the playoffs they'll get their heads handed to them..even by
the over  achieving Giants....


Metz

    They shoulda beat the Giants once already dis year...
    
    Big end of game let-down from the early '93 "D".  
    
    Vee shalt zee...
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Go Bearz,
    Party at Red Kerr's
    
    MikeL
    

    I watched the Bears/Packers game last Sunday.  It was the most
    one-sided game I've ever seen that ended up with the winning team being
    that badly outplayed.
    
    The Packers were pure comedy on offense.  The moved up and down the
    field all day as they pleased, but when it came time to score, Favre
    had a stupid attack.  Forcing dumb passes into double coverage and the
    topper being the "pass" that slipped out of his hand and him standing
    there like a dolt while the Bear player picks it up on his way to
    another defensive TD.  
    
    The Bears offense was pretty much pathetic (they didn't score a TD for
    the umpteenth game this year)  and their defense had more
    holes than swiss cheese, but despite Favre throwing for 400+ yards they
    couldn't score.  For the Bears to be ahead at the half 10-7 was
    unbelievable.  The Pack should have built up a good 21-24 point lead.
    
    As someone who watches the NFC Central regularly (being a Viking fan in
    Bear land) I can say that the only team that really stands a chance of
    going anywhere in the playoffs this year is Green Bay.  Yet year after
    year they find a way to screw it up and come up juuuust short of making
    the playoffs.  Will they find a way to blow it this year?  Probably.
    
    The Bears, Vikes and Lions just aren't very good teams this year.  The
    Pack could be if Favre played better when it counted.
    
    As for the Vikes running game, well if Dallas, SF or anyone else was
    down to their 4th string RB, they would be hurting too.  So far this
    year they've lost Allen, Smith and Evans to season ending injuries. 
    Not to mention the Vikes had to fill three offensive line holes by
    players that defected.
    
    Someone will make the playoffs out of the bunch, but unless GB gets
    hot, it will definately be blowout city.
    
    
    Spud
    

�    I watched the Bears/Packers game last Sunday.  It was the most
�    one-sided game I've ever seen that ended up with the winning team being
�    that badly outplayed.
    
    You obviously haven't seen some of the Pats' losses this year (e.g.
    Pittsburgh).

	Yabut, if they only had Irving!



	billl for /er

    OK Chip - since I will be leaving middle of next week I'll put in
    my offer now for a p-name bet (always gotta bet on games I attend)
    although for you maybe a sig bet would be more appropriate.
    
    I will be spending next Saturday freezing my tail off and watching
    the Broncos improve their playoff hopes by crushing the bears at
    Soldier's Field. 
    
    I also have mid-week Bullz tix (I never used to rate Bulls tickets
    before - guess my buddy had a change of heart this year - wonder why?)
    
    Now if only I can get down to Chambana for a game I'll be all set
    (don't think we can defrost Wrigley for a quickie) for the week.
    
    Murph

    Red Kerrs issa must.  You can even catch da Bear bus to da game.
    
    Der ain't nuthin' like dat ride, listening to all dos guys talk like
    da SNL superfans!
    
    Since I am leaving for a New York - Colorado Springs week next week
    I'll reply now about this Denver thing someone wrote in!
    
    John Boy Elway better larn hisself a good auto-sack move.  The NFC
    Norris division has watched his twinkle toed foreplay with the AFC
    for too long.  They what some-a-dat fresh meat.  Bum Jr, shoulda also
    get hisself a woolen Cowboy hat fer a real mans freeze from the lake
    as opposed to the silly fluffy stuff you get at John Denvers mountain.
    
    I like the Bears over Denver, at da 'field.
    
    I like Wannstedt over Dikka.           ;-)
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    
  >>  I like Wannstedt over Dikka.           ;-)
    
    SOrta changed yer tune since entering what follows, eh Chip????
    
    JaKe
    
    
    
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>>    Worst move in Bear history, including the Abe Gibron fiasco...

>>    I think they measured a Richter 4.3 directly over Halas' grave last
>>    week...

>>    BRING BACK DITKA --  BRING BACK DITKA -- BRING BACK DITKA --

>>    Regards,

>>    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Hopefully Wannestadt's success will help people realize how bad a coach
    Ditka is (andhelp keep Mike out of Phoenix).
    
    boC

        >Red Kerrs issa must.  You can even catch da Bear bus to da game.
    
    Doubtful - I am a Lincoln park Yuppie in training type - will be
    spending my time at Kincaid's, Sheffield's, and Will's. Gotta bond
    with the rest of the Illini. 
    
    Murph
    

    Gawd.  Bears blow it to the Bucs...
    
    Typical Bear season.  Get my hopes up by beating two decent teams and
    blow the easier game.  (Although Tampa has given some decent teams a
    run for their money)
    
    Well Bears play Denver this Saturday.  I was in Colorado Springs all
    this week, and Denver (Stapelton to be exact) all day yesterday, trying
    not to mouth off after last week.  (Missing the 9:00am, had to wait for
    the 3:00pm... First bummer, then I sat next to a guy whos nephew was 
    killed in a mass murder, second bummer...  I really felt sorry for the
    guy and his family)
    
    The only good news is that Elwimp doesn't have much to throw at with
    his receivers all banged up.
    
    Go_Bears.
    
    _GSH_

    
    	You were in CXO all week and didn't want to meet any of
    	the esteemed noters out here?  :*)
    
    Claybone

    Actually I'm there every now and again.  I'll definately look y'all
    up nexted time...
    
    _GSH_

    
    	Well, we'll have Tim organize the get together.  He might show
    	up then!
    
    Claybone

    Don't believe 'em. I was out in Colorado Springs about 18 months ago
    and we had planned to get together and they all dropped out one at a
    time.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    
    Yabbut, TCM, it was only you they was going to meet.  
    
    8^)
    
    brews

    re: .91
    
    wise guy
    
    :-)
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    re: .93
    
    So could I. Guess Brews needs to take the easy shots since he can't
    muster enough wit for the more difficult ones.
    
    The Crazy met
    :-)
    

    
    	Quit stealing our thunder BOSS!
    
    	TCC, I don't remember a get together being planned.  Tim wouldn't
    	have shown anyway, it was his manicure night.......  
    
    Claybone

      Hey Claybone,  I resemble that remark!
    
      I will show up and drink my Sharps.  I've been on da wagon since Oct.
    4th and it taint be easy.  I wan't to go to Old Chicago's and have a
    tan and black or an igloo ale!!!!!!!!!!!
    
      Now pass me one of them brews from back there (Mexican blackbird)...
    
      Tim
    

    According to the BEAR REPORT, Chicago is putting Harbough on an out
    bound train and are going to shoot for Scott Mitchell as Q.B.  I
    believe the will keep P.T. Willis and Shane Matthews as back-ups.

    They may try to trade up for the kid from Tennessee.  I don't think
    they could get close to Charlie Ward, although I think he'd be the
    best case scenario...

    _GSH_

    Wal' mebbe they ain't goin fer Mitchell.  I kinda like the choice of
    Erick.  I would have preferred Jeff George better, but I like this more
    than Mitchell.

    Mitch may be a great one, but he still has the po' to be another Majic
    or perhaps Bubby/Hebert one season wonder.  (I know, I know, that's
    really not that fair...)

    They also offered a Seattle O-lineman (ferget his name) some cash and
    Seattle can match to keep him.  The Bears flew wide-out Blades to
    a workout.

    Looks like some pre-work for the offense.

    On other Bearables, Ironhaid checked hisself into a dependency clinic
    yesterday (It is not know the dependency) prolly food.

    I am waiting for some of my main defensemen to take a walk.  Haven't 
    heard about anything yet.  I figger we probably lose Dent, mebbe to
    the Cards, and mebbe one other.

    I'd like to see one more O-lineman hop aboard, and draft a monster
    defensive player.

    The Bears are also in the running for fullback Johnson from Dallas.

    A month away from Stupid bowl and I'm already "jonesing" for football.

    Naturally,

    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Well the Bears are going to get Andy Heck from Seattle.  I believe
    Heck was picked #1 (15th overall) in '89.  They are going to pay
    him 10mil for a five year deal.

    Don't know much about him other than he played at Notre Dame and
    started 70 of 77 games on the upper west-wet side.

    Anyone have anything on him?

    A strong line, a new Tim Worley, Erik Kramer as Q.B. and Potential of
    locking in Johnson from Dallas or a thinner Iron Haid as FB.  I think
    that a great receiver, Obe, Waddle, and hope for great things from
    our burner 1# pick Curtis Conway (after a disappointing rookie season)
    could really turn the offense around.

    I would imagine that having a Q.B. that doesn't telegraph the throws
    to the receivers may help Conways performance.

    I'd like to see one more offensive lineman get snared, and hope beyond
    hope that our defense remains intact after this player blitz...

    Chip_GSH_Bach

    
    Cards are looking at possibly signing Dent.
    
    boC

    With Butty, that makes sense.  Although I like Dent, he is, based upon
    his age, a minor loss.  I think he has one or two super seasons left
    in him.  People I think would impact the team more are Woolford,
    Armstrong, Blaylock, Jones, Gayle, Spellman would impact the defense
    worse...
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Not that it is any matter of anything, but I could have sworn Merrill
    Hoge was an African American...  Did my Bear_Report screw up the
    pictures, or was I always wrong?
                              
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    
    	You wuz wrong.....

    I wished I knew whose face I pictured in my haid everytime they
    talked about Hodge...  Some guy out there would have been knocked down
    by me asking for a Merrill Hoge autograph!
    
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    For those of you interested, the Bears Fan_Club number is
    
    (800) 790-BEAR
    
    Charter member, and chapter presidente'
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Where Swersky?
    

    RE: .106  
    
    Cincinnati.
    
    RE: Trivia
    
    Answer
    
    
    The Decatur Staleys

    I thought my favorite note would be appropriate for my good byes.

    I am fortunate, I guess.  I have been able to find a position in
    Cincinnati for more money, in a growing company, close to my home,
    so I jumped on it.  I am outta here July 8th.

    Being an area security consultant, I have had to travel much more than
    a guy married one year would like to.  Also, due to reorgs I was
    assigned to New York/New Jersey/New England, and eventually I would
    have to move to NYC or Jersey.

    My wife and I love Cincinnati, and our little neighborhood (Mt.
    Lookout), as well as our home.  Golfing is near year round, and
    the days are longer (being on the western edge of the eastern time
    zone).  She is doing very well in her career, so we wanted to stay right 
    here.  (Plus I can make the drive to Solider Field relatively easy.)

    I will be working for a computer reseller (Entex Information Services)
    and will be their loss prevention/security guy.  It may be a golden
    opportunity, it may be a mistake.  I'll take the odds, betting against
    mother DEC these days...

    I hope things go better for Digital.  I would be lying if I didn't say
    Digital made my career for me.  I loved every minute of my time here,
    although the constant layoffs and the ever present threat of losing
    your job simply wore me out.  

    Good lick to all of you.  I will miss reading you guys clobber each
    other.  You have made me spit my coffee out many a time!

    Good luck and God Bless.

    Chip_GSH_Bach

    
    
     Thanks Chip, and good lick to you too.
    
    

    
     Good "lick"? Is that a Freudian Slip?

    	Get your mind out of the gutter Tom.  Take care Chip, and I
    hope the Patriots don't beat the Bears too badly this season.  8^)
    
    				  /Don

Chip,

I'll be thinking of you everytime I:


	a) see the Bears on TV

	b) see Chip Beck lay up on a hole

	c) see re-runs of the Swerky's Sports skits....


Good luck!


'Saw

Good luck Chipster.  

From my breif visit there, I can see the attraction of the Cincinnatti area.
Seems like a nice place, good mix of sophisitication and mellowness.

I'm sure you'll do well at your new venture.

I remain,
bummed we didn't get together on my trip,

=bob=

good luck Chip.

be thinking of you every time the Knicks whup the Bulls.

The Crazy Met

    -1, Its not very nice to tell him you wont be thinking of him very
    often :-)

    No need to reply.  As soon as I ctrl-z, I'm outta here.
    
    Good bye and go bears.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    >No need to reply.  As soon as I ctrl-z, I'm outta here.        
    >
    >Good bye and go bears.    
    
    
    Well then, in the time honored sports.note congrats tradition:
    
    Congrats and good luck, Chip.
    
    brews

I've got an obscure one.....


anyone know of ANY Chicago Bears QB that graduated from North Texas State??


thanx

Joe

    
      Bobby Douglas?

    Bobby Douglas went to Kansas, My 1st ex-wife used to date him.

	Ditka going to the Saints?  Anyone hear this?

	Kevin

Reported in my paper this morning, attributed to NBC (where he resigned his
job) and ESPN.


'Saw

I'll take week 6 in the pool.....

This is great, he'll be exposed for the fraud he is...

    Not according to the roundtable on "Saturday Night Live".  They had an
    all-sports rerun last Saturday, and one of the spots was Joe Mantegna
    in the roundtable with Mike Myers and a couple of other guys talking
    about a certain professional football team from Chicago - da Bears!
    
    It's a real funny skit, and one of the questions they ponder is how the
    Bears would do against the Giants if the Bears were all 14" tall, and
    how much better they would be if Ditka would stay full size.  But even
    a 14" Ditka would beat the Giants.  Finally, they ask what the score of
    the game would be if it was just Ditka - no players - vs the Giants. 
    Of course, they all think Ditka would win.
    
    NAZZ

    
>    But even
>    a 14" Ditka would beat the Giants.  Finally, they ask what the score of
>    the game would be if it was just Ditka - no players - vs the Giants. 
>    Of course, they all think Ditka would win.
  
    "Now lemme ask ya, Danny Sheridan, if it's just mini-Dikka against 
    the Giants, how do ya see the spread?".
    
    "Uh, lemme see, that'd be... Giants, by 800 points".
    
    "Come on, Danny, be serious... we're talking Coach Dikka here..."
    
    "Well, no, 800 points, but that's just because it's one player."
          
    "Yeah right, Danny.  Now take yer crack pipe and get outta here..."
    
    
    glenn
                                                             
     

Those were funny sketches.  Bill Swersky and da boyss eatin' brats.  Too funny.

    
    Bears give up their #1 pick for Rick Mirer from Seattle?
    
    Is this announced yet??  press conference today?   Westy
    

It's in most of the papers, news, media, etc.

Sportszone has it fer shore.

TTom

Mirer wasn't worth a 1st rd pick the first time.

    
    	Seattle made out pretty good, they drafted him 2nd and get the
    11th pick in return. Not bad considering Mirer has done virtually
    nothing for 4 years.
    
    Ron