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Conference decwet::physics

Title:Physics
Notice:On the existence of Schr�dinger's Cat
Moderator:AUSS::GARSON
Created:Mon Oct 17 1988
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:423
Total number of notes:5376

174.0. "Gravitation and Time" by SHIRE::TONINATO (pizza e pastasciutta) Fri Oct 19 1990 08:20

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174.1Forward knows his physicsMINAR::BISHOPFri Oct 19 1990 11:2416
174.2JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Mon Oct 22 1990 05:419
174.3SHIRE::TONINATOpizza e pastasciuttaMon Nov 05 1990 04:2710
174.4Time does slow downREPAIR::RICKETTSHave you tried kicking it?Mon Nov 05 1990 05:2510
174.5RE 174.4 - try collapsarADVAX::KLAESAll the Universe, or nothing!Mon Nov 05 1990 08:016
174.6REGENT::POWERSTue Nov 06 1990 06:3013
174.7REGENT::POWERSTue Nov 06 1990 06:424
174.8RE 174.6-.7ADVAX::KLAESAll the Universe, or nothing!Tue Nov 06 1990 08:288
174.9Why is that better?CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperTue Nov 06 1990 11:0423
174.10words, words, words, ...DECWET::BISHOPAvery: father, hacker, brewer, Japanese speakerTue Nov 06 1990 14:0730
174.11JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Fri Nov 09 1990 05:3532
174.12gravitonsBRUMMY::LOXTONFri Nov 09 1990 06:157
174.13WHAT? You mean Albert and MIT are wrong?WALLAC::LAYNEFri Nov 09 1990 06:2928
174.14less disagreement than meets the eyeCSSE::NEILSENI used to be PULSAR::WALLYFri Nov 09 1990 10:0424
174.15JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Fri Nov 09 1990 10:169
174.16SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Fri Nov 09 1990 12:4022
174.17There is a time contraction.CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperFri Nov 09 1990 13:3431
174.18Form the questions more preciselySTAR::ROBERTSat Nov 10 1990 05:0517
174.19Errr... Gravitons _cause_ gravity, so gravity can't touch them?WALLAC::LAYNESat Nov 10 1990 05:4230
174.20STAR::ROBERTSun Nov 11 1990 07:3312
174.21JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Sun Nov 11 1990 10:217
174.22Red-shift == time dilation.CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperMon Nov 12 1990 07:2641
174.23JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Nov 15 1990 07:3049
174.24PRFECT::PALKAThu Nov 15 1990 09:4610
174.25ALIEN::MELVINTen Zero, Eleven Zero Zero by Zero 2Thu Nov 15 1990 11:097
174.26JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Nov 15 1990 12:597
174.27Non-standard units.CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperThu Nov 15 1990 13:0313
174.28Equivalence principle can be tricky to apply.CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperThu Nov 15 1990 13:1618
174.29JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Fri Nov 16 1990 05:3434
174.30conservation of energyCSSE::NEILSENI used to be PULSAR::WALLYFri Nov 16 1990 09:0729
174.31Too much mass to have gravity ?TEMPE::LAYNEDum vivimus, vivamus!!!Fri Nov 23 1990 02:1714
174.32Science article on GRRGB::REDFORDMon Nov 26 1990 06:3418
174.33SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Tue Nov 27 1990 14:296
174.34at least one adjustable constant in General RelativityCSSE::NEILSENI used to be PULSAR::WALLYWed Nov 28 1990 09:4915
174.35Singularities and singularitiesHIBOB::SIMMONSTristram Shandy as an equestrianSat Dec 01 1990 08:426
174.36ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearMon Dec 03 1990 16:035
174.37RE 174.36ADVAX::KLAESAll the Universe, or nothing!Tue Dec 04 1990 12:476
174.38ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearTue Dec 04 1990 14:181
174.39re. last fewREPAIR::RICKETTSHave you tried kicking it?Thu Dec 06 1990 00:3839
174.40ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearSat Dec 08 1990 11:2428
174.41A little clarification neededVOSTOK::LEPAGELife sucks then the bill comes inMon Dec 10 1990 08:4318
174.42RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Mon Dec 10 1990 09:515
174.43This is TRUTH, even if it seems like a generalization.ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearTue Dec 11 1990 08:0712
174.44RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Tue Dec 11 1990 08:375
174.45Why insist on defending a passing comment?ZENDIA::REITHJim Reith DTN 226-6102 - LTN2-1/F02Tue Dec 11 1990 08:412
174.46A Little Further Into the Rat HoleVOSTOK::LEPAGELife sucks then the bill comes inTue Dec 11 1990 10:4220
174.47Not Pournell's faultCADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperTue Dec 11 1990 11:3515
174.48suggestionSSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Tue Dec 11 1990 13:237
174.49ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearTue Dec 11 1990 16:0120
174.50I agree (on several points)VOSTOK::LEPAGELife sucks then the bill comes inWed Dec 12 1990 07:4415
174.51SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Wed Dec 12 1990 10:284
174.52GENRAL::HARDERWed Dec 12 1990 11:324
174.53ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearWed Dec 12 1990 12:4719
174.54STAR::ROBERTWed Dec 12 1990 16:259
174.55ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearThu Dec 13 1990 08:413
174.56Modern thinking often obscures the pastSTAR::ROBERTThu Dec 13 1990 09:0618
174.57more on early black hole theoryCSSE::NEILSENI used to be PULSAR::WALLYThu Dec 13 1990 09:2821
174.58ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearThu Dec 13 1990 10:2012
174.59ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearThu Dec 13 1990 10:246
174.60HPSTEK::XIAIn my beginning is my end.Thu Dec 13 1990 11:118
174.61You don't have to get it all right...CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperThu Dec 13 1990 12:5329
174.62Who was Schwartzchild anyway?ELRIC::MARSHALLhunting the snarkThu Dec 13 1990 13:5813
174.63ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearThu Dec 13 1990 14:2027
174.64STAR::ROBERTThu Dec 13 1990 14:2932
174.65STAR::ROBERTThu Dec 13 1990 14:3512
174.66ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearThu Dec 13 1990 14:463
174.67ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearThu Dec 13 1990 14:518
174.68Here a nit, there a nit, everywhere a ...STAR::ROBERTThu Dec 13 1990 16:1219
174.69RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Fri Dec 14 1990 08:366
174.70a bit more history hereCSSE::NEILSENI used to be PULSAR::WALLYFri Dec 14 1990 09:2445
174.71more on Schwarzchild and othersCSSE::NEILSENI used to be PULSAR::WALLYFri Dec 14 1990 10:0346
174.72HPSTEK::XIAIn my beginning is my end.Fri Dec 14 1990 10:1424
174.73ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearFri Dec 14 1990 10:5422
174.74RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Fri Dec 14 1990 11:398
174.75ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearFri Dec 14 1990 12:0111
174.76Photons DO have mass, right?DECWET::BISHOPGaijin wa tsurai yo.Fri Dec 14 1990 15:4711
174.77STAR::ROBERTFri Dec 14 1990 18:4510
174.78"black holes have no hair"CSSE::NEILSENI used to be PULSAR::WALLYMon Dec 17 1990 10:2029
174.79ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearMon Dec 17 1990 10:3922
174.80E=mc�DECWET::BISHOPGaijin wa tsurai yo.Mon Dec 17 1990 11:2310
174.81ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearMon Dec 17 1990 11:3214
174.82ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearMon Dec 17 1990 11:343
174.83Maybe something's has changed in the last 12 years...AOXOA::STANLEYThere's a price for being free...Mon Dec 17 1990 12:2010
174.84My, my, aren't we touchy.DECWET::BISHOPGaijin wa tsurai yo.Mon Dec 17 1990 18:1730
174.85JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Tue Dec 18 1990 05:2011
174.86Don't push me too far ;^)ZENDIA::REITHJim Reith DTN 226-6102 - LTN2-1/F02Tue Dec 18 1990 05:303
174.87I heard about that one too...AOXOA::STANLEYSometimes you get shown the light...Tue Dec 18 1990 07:0310
174.88I'm done.DECWET::BISHOPGaijin wa tsurai yo.Tue Dec 18 1990 08:0660
174.89ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearTue Dec 18 1990 08:3019
174.90a thought experimentCSSE::NEILSENI used to be PULSAR::WALLYTue Dec 18 1990 09:2041
174.91ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearTue Dec 18 1990 11:5725
174.92Photon's massVOSTOK::LEPAGELife sucks then the bill comes inTue Dec 18 1990 12:4938
174.93SO THERE!DECWET::BISHOPGaijin wa tsurai yo.Tue Dec 18 1990 13:100
174.94ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearTue Dec 18 1990 13:3114
174.95Boris, SOAPBOX is that-a-way >>>-----> ....RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Tue Dec 18 1990 13:4310
174.96ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearTue Dec 18 1990 13:575
174.97Pick a number, any number...RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Tue Dec 18 1990 14:079
174.98ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearTue Dec 18 1990 14:171
174.99He didn't say how singularities are treated. He just noted it's a singularityDECWET::BISHOPGaijin wa tsurai yo.Tue Dec 18 1990 14:232
174.100ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearTue Dec 18 1990 14:261
174.1020/0 is UNDEFINEDRAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Tue Dec 18 1990 14:335
174.103ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearWed Dec 19 1990 09:1117
174.104the question is not about the rest mass BorisCSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtWed Dec 19 1990 10:3913
174.105ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearWed Dec 19 1990 10:526
174.106rest mass and actual massCSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtWed Dec 19 1990 11:1117
174.107ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearWed Dec 19 1990 13:0910
174.108Mixing models can confuse...MINAR::BISHOPWed Dec 19 1990 13:3027
174.109ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearWed Dec 19 1990 13:3713
174.110RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Wed Dec 19 1990 14:0229
174.111STAR::ROBERTWed Dec 19 1990 14:0914
174.112ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearWed Dec 19 1990 14:1214
174.113ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearWed Dec 19 1990 14:176
174.114RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Wed Dec 19 1990 14:5419
174.115ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearWed Dec 19 1990 15:232
174.116RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Wed Dec 19 1990 15:445
174.117ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearWed Dec 19 1990 19:2414
174.119ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearWed Dec 19 1990 23:341
174.120MYCRFT::PARODIJohn H. ParodiThu Dec 20 1990 06:0612
174.121JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Fri Dec 21 1990 05:2418
174.122make it 'm in numerator...'ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearFri Dec 21 1990 09:1411
174.123RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Fri Dec 21 1990 11:4113
174.124ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearFri Dec 21 1990 12:311
174.125Understanding Black holes if BtheB is correct?KEIKI::WHITEFri Dec 21 1990 21:1228
174.126ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearMon Dec 24 1990 00:2313
174.127Trying to understand without equationsKEIKI::WHITEWed Dec 26 1990 17:0621
174.128Mass-Energy EquivalenceWOOK::LEEWook... Like 'Book' with a 'W'Fri Dec 28 1990 14:3539
174.129a few answer's to Wook's questionsCSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtWed Jan 02 1991 09:1753
174.130can photons contribute to gravitation aka space-time curvature?CSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtWed Jan 02 1991 09:5431
174.131Is mass a property of photons?CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperWed Jan 02 1991 12:3946
174.132Mass meaning.CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperWed Jan 02 1991 13:5357
174.133Grave photons.CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperWed Jan 02 1991 14:0922
174.134mass and gravitationCSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtThu Jan 03 1991 08:4510
174.135A related question:DECWET::BISHOPGaijin wa tsurai yo.Thu Jan 03 1991 08:4816
174.136frequency variationCSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtThu Jan 03 1991 09:0513
174.137and this has been experimentally verifiedCSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtThu Jan 03 1991 09:071
174.138ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearThu Jan 03 1991 15:0544
174.139RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Thu Jan 03 1991 15:2615
174.140ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearThu Jan 03 1991 15:5413
174.141RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Thu Jan 03 1991 19:3629
174.142Photons as gravitational source; limits & zero rest massSTAR::ROBERTFri Jan 04 1991 05:1089
174.143Order! Order!CSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtFri Jan 04 1991 10:4118
174.144best-laid bear traps...unsprungTARKIN::MCALLENFri Jan 04 1991 13:005
174.145reply .126 says it all!DECWET::BISHOPGaijin wa tsurai yo.Fri Jan 04 1991 13:5035
174.146ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearMon Jan 07 1991 09:2442
174.147JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Mon Jan 07 1991 10:0315
174.148RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Mon Jan 07 1991 10:198
174.149Massive photons.CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperMon Jan 07 1991 11:3636
174.15038486::GOKHMANBoris the BearMon Jan 07 1991 14:585
174.151ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearMon Jan 07 1991 22:2811
174.152SYSTEM::THOMPSONTue Jan 08 1991 02:247
174.153RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Tue Jan 08 1991 08:2620
174.154ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearTue Jan 08 1991 11:342
174.155Do I have to explain *everything* to you?RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Tue Jan 08 1991 12:397
174.156ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearTue Jan 08 1991 13:551
174.157GUESS::DERAMODan D'EramoTue Jan 08 1991 16:5951
174.158RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Tue Jan 08 1991 18:1333
174.159oops, make not just the first but all the derivatives zeroGUESS::DERAMODan D'EramoTue Jan 08 1991 19:1912
174.160ESIS::GOKHMANBoris the BearTue Jan 08 1991 20:447
174.161RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Tue Jan 08 1991 21:5317
174.162Please ExplainVOSTOK::LEPAGELife sucks then the bill comes inWed Jan 09 1991 10:4256
174.163Upper bound on mass of photonDECWET::BISHOPIrohanihohetochirinuruowakayotarezotsunenaramu...Wed Jan 09 1991 16:4419
174.164RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Wed Jan 09 1991 21:2418
174.165Nobel Prize winners for pulsar/gravity studiesVERGA::KLAESQuo vadimus?Wed Oct 20 1993 15:0096