Conference back40::soapbox

    I don't know why, but I can think of thousands of why nots. Chief
    among them, think about 75 year old sagging breast and buttock
    tatoos of roses...
    
    Four words to scare anyone away from having a tatoo:
    
    	Rosanne Barr, Dennis Rodman
    
    -b             

    Think about the fact that all those charming, vibrant colors you'll
    be injected with all end up turning dark blue/green on your sagging,
    uh, whatever.    Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
    

    one word... choice.

    Some people call attention to themselves through the thoughts, some
    people call attenti0on to themselves through their deeds, some people
    have nothing else to offer so they have to get a tattoo or body
    piercing. ;-)
    
     Worse than tattoos are the nose piercings. I can't think of a louder
    way to scream "I have no life!"

    
    My sister started with one little tattoo...that's how it *always*
    starts...just a little tiny `Garfield' clinging to her shoulder
    blade...seemed harmless at the time...little did we know...
    
    Her latest tattoo (of about 2 or 3 dozen, now) was of disembodied teeth
    and fangs screaming through the air trailing flames.
    
    I hope she feels the same way about it in 30 years' time.
    

    
    
    RE: .4 Good to see you aren't judgemental about these things, doc. 
    
    
    I've got one, female's name on my left arm.  If I had it to do all
    over, I would have left the name off and gotten something else.  Still
    trying to decide on a second one for the other arm.
    
    
    Mike

    
    <-------
    
     I wonder if anyone's ever done an extensive survey to determine how
    many people would say:
    
     "If I had to do it over again..."

    
    
    Ahemm...ahem......Oh Jim......SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!  :*)
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    hehehe
    

>     "If I had to do it over again..."
        
        "I'd do it all over you!"
        

    
    
    	whassa matta Terrie? ;*)
    
    	I've got a tattoo of a rose, it's stem piercing a heart, and a
    scroll wrapped around it with my wife and my two kids names on it. I
    would do it again and plan on getting another one.
    
    	jim
    
    p.s. - my other areas of expression are poetry and assault
    weapons....;*)

    There is a difference between getting a nice tattoo and getting a
    crushed skull with maggots and long fingernails on an open wounded hand
    type tattoo.
    
    My hubby has a rose with a ribbon running around it on one arm that
    says "Gail".  On the other arm he has two roses with ribbons that match
    the other arm.  The ribbons say "Alyssa" and "Krystin", which are our
    kids.  Personally, I think it is a very nice tattoo.
    
    Now, as far as women with tattoos...  In my opinion it is very tacky
    for a cheap looking woman to have this 4 inch tattoo on her chest so
    that she constantly has to wear a revealing tank-top so that everyone
    in the world will see it.  That's disgusting in my opinion.  I once saw
    the most beautiful looking woman in a bar once that had a tattoo of a
    bleeding dragons head right in the middle of her forehead!  Excuse me,
    couldn't you have just colored your hair or something for attention? 
    Did you really have to plaster that hideous looking tattoo on what was
    a beautiful face?
    
    I have two tattoos.  I have one on my ankle (a heart with a ribbon) and
    one high up on my hip (a butterfly).  Most people don't even know I
    have a tattoo because it's not out in the open.  The only time you can
    see the one on my hip is when I wear a high-cut bathing suit.  And the
    one on my ankle can only be seen when I'm not wearing socks.
    
    Nice/beautiful/tasteful tattoos = yes
    Puss-ridden/disgusting/tasteless tattoos = no
    
    "Keep America Beautiful - Tattoo America"
    
    

    There lies the dilemma, there is no way for folks to agree on
    universally accepted standards of tasteful etc.  Personally, I do not
    like tattoos, don't have one, will not get one and wonder why anyone
    would. But hey, it's your skin, have at it. 
    
    Brian

>>    Now, as far as women with tattoos...  In my opinion it is very tacky
>>    for a cheap looking woman to have this 4 inch tattoo on her chest so
>>    that she constantly has to wear a revealing tank-top so that everyone
>>    in the world will see it.  


	Ummmmmm, what would the definition of "a cheap looking woman" 
	be??


	Pat

	

    sounds like the definition of pornography; you can't write it down but
    you know it when you see it. :-)

    
    
    I too would like to know what your defenition of 'cheap looking'
    is.  I have a tatoo, and I don't happen to think I look especially
    cheap....ever.
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    cheap is slatternly.

    
    
    Oh sure Binder...make me use my dictionary this early in the
    morning.....thanks alot! 
    
    
    
    
    :*)
    Terrie
    

    
    
    
    One person's cheap is another persons turnon. :')
    
    

    .18
    
    yer most welcome.  :-)

	.19
	
	one person's sheep is another person's mutton.
	
	

    
    
    Haag's gone.

    
    
    
    
    So, I've decided that I will judge a tattoo contest when I come up in
    the spring (ooh-er).  Bribes welcomed and encouraged. :')
    
    
    
    Mike (the only judge of the tattoo contest)

    
    
    I had better qualify this.  It's a woman's only contest!!!! 

    Terrie,
    
    I have a tattoo too and I am far from looking cheap.  The bar down the
    street from me that I used to go to every weekend had different
    categories of women.  Like this:
    
    1.  Those that were there just to have a drink, be with friends and
    have fun and dance.
    
    2.  Those that wore what used to be mini-skirts, but shrunk 4 sizes in
    the dryer, but were still worn, fish-net pantyhose, a tank top that
    looks like it would fit Barbie, 6-inch spiked heels, and had they're
    fake, bright red painted claws in EVERY single guy in the place.
    Believe me, this is the type of woman that tried to get ahold of my
    hubby while I was standing right in front of him.  And after I looked
    at her and said, "Excuse me, this one is married...to me" and her reply
    was "Married men are better."
    
    How's that for an explanation of a cheap woman?
    
    
    PS  Who was it that called me a few minutes ago?
    
    
    
     

Tattoos don't necessarily look cheap. It's whether the rest of the
person looks cheap, that makes a tattoo look cheap. I don't have any
tattoos, I don't like getting stuck with things.

					-K-

    
    RE: .25  We are better. :')
    
    
    
    

    .25
    
    does your 2. legitimise the concept of women dressing in a certain way
    means they're asking for it ?
    
    ric

    .24
    
    discrimination !!!!
    
    ric

    
    
    Yeah, so what?!

    Don't get me wrong, a friend of mine has a tattoo on her chest and it's
    a real pretty one, but she also doesn't go topless so that everyone
    will notice either.  I'm just saying that there are some women who do
    it for attention and attention only.
    
    As for my description of #2, it's not the way they dress that says
    they're looking for it, it's the way they act while dressed that way
    that says they're looking for it.
    
    But I guess variety is what makes this world the way it is, huh?!  It's
    takes all kinds to make this world.
    
    

>>    RE: .25  We are better. :')


	When I got my tattoo, the artist who did it made sure to point 
out to me that just becasue I now had a tattoo I still had to shop at 
the same stores, eat at the same restaurants etc. it didn't mean that I 
was better than the rest.
    
	;-)

Pat
    
    
    

    
    
    Definition of "cheap"
    
    One where you have to use the pick-up line:
    
     "Hey there!!..... Nice tooth!!"
    
    :)
    

    re: .5
    
    >> Her latest tattoo (of about 2 or 3 dozen, now) was of disembodied teeth
    >> and fangs screaming through the air trailing flames.
    
    Hoooeee, I hope she isn't a dentist or a hygienist.  That would be
    one scary cleaning.  "Open wide, this won't hurt..."
    
    >> I hope she feels the same way about it in 30 years' time.
    
    Well, you can always tell her that in 30 years, whenever she sneezes,
    it'll probably be her own teeth that are screaming through the air...
    
    Chris

    Hey! how about a couple of twin props on the butlocks! More thrust!:)

    
    ...butlocks?

    <--- do the math

    RE .4
    
    >Some people call attention to themselves through the thoughts, some
    >people call attention to themselves through their deeds, some people
    >have nothing else to offer so they have to get a tattoo or body
    >piercing. ;-)
    
    ..and some people call attention to themselves by writing stupid notes.
    
    I ask you, how does someone with a Prince Albert piercing call
    attention to themselves?  Not like it's a visible piercing (under
    most circumstances).  
    
    Could it be that some people get tattoos/piercing becuase they LIKE
    them?!?!?
    

    .36 Fanny muscles! Twin props for more thrust. Srving!

    
    I know I shouldn't ask this.
    
    What in the world is a Prince Albert piercing?

    I wonder the same thing too Mz Deb! So don't feel bad?
    
    Is a Prince Albert piercing in the can???? :-) :-) :-)
    
    -b

    	Prince Albert.
    
    	Isn't that a piercing in the, uh, genital area?
    
    	I've always wondered about nose piercings.
    
    	Do they foster stalagtites?

    <----- Are stalagtites like clingons?  

    You mean like the Klingons around Uranus?

        A PA  is  a  piercing of the tip or head of ...umm...  the male
        appendage;  usually a ring, passing through the natural opening
        and continuing out through a new opening underneath...
        
        I understand it makes  urination  an  adventure unless one sits
        down! :^)
        
        &y
        
        PS.  Called a PA  since  Prince Albert was reputed to have one,
        making it fashionable in high places.   It's ostensible purpose
        was to harness the aforementioned member to one's leg of choice
        much in a similar way to gunslingers of  the  ol' west who tied
        their holsters to their legs with a thong.
        

    
    I should have known &y would know, considering the person who wrote the
    definitive book on pig penii is named A.F. Fraser.

    
    i don't have a tatoo, but kinda sorta want one.  and i totaly agree
    with gail on this...just a nice, simply little one for me on my ankle
    or collarbone, please...
    
    

        That would  be  my grandmother, Deb - a new career for her when
        she got too old to be a deckhand on a whaling ship and her part
        time job as a welder in a soap factory <ahem> petered out ...
        
        &y
        

	Piercing one's err... penis is not something I will ever do. I won't
even pierce either of my can... errr nipples either.


Glen

re .36:

A butlock is a wrestling hold.

re ?:

Stalactites.  Stalagmites.
     ^

    friend has a beutiful set of tatoos on her back, including her first
    color tatoo, a calla lily in memory of her daughter who was tragically
    killed before her first birthday.  I don't think they look trashy in
    the least.  
    
    maybe I will do that instead of buying a 4x4 for my next decade crisis.
    
    meg

    
      I'm agin em.  bb
    

	.52  i am wichoo

    I can't imagine getting one (I have a low threshold for voluntary pain)
    but some of them look pretty good.

    I have a low threshold for involuntary pain as well as voluntary.

    My sister-in-law needs Valium when she gets her teeth cleaned, so she
    has absolutely no theshold for pain and she got a tattoo.
    
    Have you ever nicked yourself while shaving?  You know that faint
    stinging?  BINGO.  That's as painful as it gets.
    
    Then again, there are areas where the pain is greater.  The more
    sensitive the skin, the more it'll hurt.  I heard that the back area
    is pretty painful.
    
    Gail

    Not for myself but I have seen some that were excellent and very
    attractive. There are at least three magazines covering this topic and
    when I get a chance I glance through them at a bookstore. Some
    exceptional tattoo artists have their works featured in these
    magazines. Saw one last summer that was a real attention getter.
    Covered the guy's entire back and it was a scene of Merlin the Magician
    with left arm raised holding a crystal ball, the background done in
    blues and purples was a night sky with shooting stars. Absolutely
    fantastic! Exceptional artwork in this one. He did say it cost a lot of
    $$$ as it had to be done in small sections due to healing time, etc.
    and because the artist was so good. My great uncle had one which
    covered his chest- bald eagle in the middle and the American flag on
    one side and the British Union Jack on the other side. All of us kids
    in the neighborhood thought it was fantastic. However, there is no way
    in hell anyway anyone is going to convince me that people who are "into
    body piercing" aren't in desperate need of some mental evaluation. 
    Desperate for attention IMHO.

    -1
    
    Are you trying to say it's ok to pierce ones ears, but not body parts?
    If so, why?
    
    
    On the subject of -- in Australia, Tatoos and body piercings for
    fashion/trendiness are OUT.  What's in?  Branding!  That's right 
    folks, the Aussies now have centers where an artist will sculpt 
    your own design in metal, then burn it into your skin.  I think 
    I like this better than scarrification ... a cheesy late 80s 
    trend which just never really caught on.

    Branding is being done were as well.  Now that has to hurt a lot.  No
    thank you.  
    
    Brian

Branding???  Those folks are out of their minds!

Bob

    .25
    Could you send me the address of that bar?
    
    .49
    I can`t have them easily put a hole through something that is brass.
    
    I generally do not like tattos but I`m starting to change my mind about
    them them. I wouldn`t get one for myself but...

| <<< Note 257.61 by MAIL2::CRANE >>>




| .49
| I can`t have them easily put a hole through something that is brass.

	R u sayin that u have a brass penis???? If so, I guess gettin a woody
is out of the question...



Glen

>>    Have you ever nicked yourself while shaving?  You know that faint
>>    stinging?  BINGO.  That's as painful as it gets.

	Well.....  if you're thinking about getting one make sure 
	you ask before hand about the pain involved in the area 
	you'd like it placed.   I had mine placed on my upper chest
	and because of the muscle structure = OOOOWWWWWWW, of course
	I _didn't_ ask this question before he started and it was
	a bit too late when I did.  I have a very high threshold
	for pain and there were times (like when he "worked in" the color)
	that had me jumping!  I also found that it wasn't so much 
	"pain" as burn, if you know what I mean.

	Pat

    
    I'm feeling kinda nauseous 8^p.

    Not only that, you feel like throwing up!

    press on

	Lee press on nails

     
      on ok snarf but 77's are better
    
     > Lee press on nails
    
             never!  
    
                                               Lee
    

    
    
    	re: body piercing
    
    
    	My friend's girlfriend has her bellybutton pierced....it looks
    downright sexy I think. It's funny the looks she was getting at the
    beach....:*)
    
    	I wonder how she cleans out the bellybutton lint??
    
    jim

    
    My sister (the tatooed lady) got (amongst other things) her tongue
    pierced.  This I consider to be the, uhhhh, most disagreeable of the
    many disgreeable things she has done.
    
    It looked downright painful.
    
    Oh, and she also got a brand as well.
    
    Whatever floats your boat...but I think she's losin' it.
    

    
    
    	I have to admit, tongue piercing has me baffled (along with Prince
    Albert piercing...<shiver>)...
    
    

	Hey .69....... shouldn't that have been a Lee Press On Snarf!!??

    	I've never spoken with a person who has his/her tongue pierced.
    
    	Do such people sound like they have a speech impediment or
    	are speaking with their mouths full?  Does the piercing item
    	click on their teeth?
    
    	Or should we just assume that people stupid enough to do this
    	wouldn't be able to speak clearly anyway, so there is no great
    	loss if you don't hear them...  :^)

    RE: cleaning the bellybutton...
    
    hoke ither end of the piercing to the opposite side of a car battery
    using the proper length wires and alligator clips.  Burn it out.
    
    RE: Speech impediments....
    
    They turn into peech inthpediments.
    
    

    roll on

    
    rock on

    march on

    turn on

     hard, um, never mind.

	come on

    moron

    
    p on
    

    peon

    neon

    poupon

    
    
    	coupon!

    
    Note 257.75, Joe:
    
    	>Do such people sound like they have a speech impediment or
    	>are speaking with their mouths full?  Does the piercing item
    	>click on their teeth?
    
    Come to think of it, I never noticed any change after she had it done.
    The item itself is well back on the tongue, out of the way of the
    teeth.
    
    	>Or should we just assume that people stupid enough to do this
    	>wouldn't be able to speak clearly anyway, so there is no great
    	>loss if you don't hear them...  :^)
    
    My sister is about the loudest person I know, so I still have no
    problem hearing her.  :^)
    

    
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jeton

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snarfon

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right on

right guard

    
    National Guard
    

Kierkegaard

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Scotland Yard

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Fresh Chard

    	Talk hard.

    
    
    Saw a man at Fanuel Hall recently with a ring through the front of his
    lower lip....
    
      So much for eating corn on the cob....
    

    Tub-o-lard

    
    Honestly, Andy, disturbing the rathole with a note on the subject...

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      RE.111
    
        Whilst channel surfing one night I found a show on the discovery
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    make a incision through the lower lip, then they cut a small piece from
    a tree branch and insert it through the incision. they call it a plug,
    the older the person the bigger the plug (they start at age 7 or 8) it
    was definatly different. 
      
    
                        Now back to more important things
    
                                                 Lee
    

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    	re .159
    
    	Rush it!

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    annoy
    

    
    girl meets boy
    
    

    
    Rogers, Roy
    

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              Top Ten Worst Things to hear at the Tattoo Parlor
                                     
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     10. "EAGLE?  I thought you said BEAGLE."

     9.  "We were all out of red, so I used pink."
    
     8.  "There are 2 O's in Bob, right?"
     
     7.  "Sorry, sir. Your chest will only hold the bottle dinghy."

     6.  "That call was for you.  Hope you meet someone else named   
            Tahiti Sweetie."

     5.  "Gosh, I hate it when I get the hiccups!"

     4.  "Anything else you want to say?  You've got plenty of room     
            back here."

     3.  "I'll bet you can't tell I've never done this before."

     2.  "The flag's all done and, you know, the folds of fat make a       
            nice waving effect."
 
     AND THE NUMBER ONE THING YOU HATE TO HEAR AT THE TATTOO PARLOR...

  
    

     1.  "Oops."

    you gotta admit one thing... i think everyone's in favor of freedom
    of expression, pursuit of individuality, and whatever "floats your
    boat", but let's face it, there are tons of folks out there that
    are taking on a lot more water than their bilge pumps can handle!
    
    Chip

Talking of bilge, this note must go down in history as being the most
mindlessly vandalised in the history of Soapbox.  (Not witty when it
takes about 15 seconds to retrieve the next note)

Chris.

    Type faster.

    
    pipe fastener
    

    stripe fashioner

Oh, knob off you bunch of sad gits!

Chris.

    gob cough

    poor sloth

    Smirnoff.

    dumkopff (sp)

    
    dumbwaiter
    

    berater

    alligator

    
    emancipator

    
    see ya later!
    

    
    
    master baiter 
    
    
    ;*)

    
    bloody waiter
    

    disseminator

    
    Wouldn't date her.
    

    gotta hate 'er

    inundate 'er

    hot potater
    in-sink-erator
    slimy gator
    stuffy waiter

    
    terminator
    

    capitulator

    
    big time operator
    

    leaking radiator

    
    
    expectorator
    

    resuscitator

    perambulator

    defibrillator

    Euuwwww....I HATE needles!
    
    No tatoos for me, nope.  
    
    I personally wouldn't get one even if I did ever get over that
    needle-phobia, but that's me.  You can do what you like with your own
    skin (though I've certainly seen more tacky tattoos than "tasteful"
    ones- especially on women).
    
    -steve

    Ewe?

    stew

    whew

	New-t

    loot.

    flute

    mute

    
    For some reason, I suddenly feel like singing "When The Foeman Bares
    His Steel".

    
    <----------
    
     George????
    

    forge

    gorge

    porridge

    
    
    coolidge
    
    

    beer fridge

    deer bridge

	queer ridge

    
    Lethbridge
    

    sacrilege

| Lethbridge

	Stewart

    pop tart

    eat smart

    don't start

    
    smelly fart
    
    
    
    

    horsey cart

    
    
    Sore heart
    

    nice dart!

    
    k-mart
    

    
    k-tel
    

    doorbell

    
    
    william tell
    

    overture

mature

    
    furniture
    

    demure

Muir Woods

    
    
    sherwood
    
    

    asteroid

    
    
    avoid-the-noid
    
    

    hem... (never mind)

clever bind

    you're too kind

lost my mind

    please be kind

    
    please be gentle
    

    
    yentl
    
    

	MatchMaker

wannamacher

    
    
    troublemaker
    

	Hey, the last 2 entries go together, right????

see you later....

    bye

cry

    Why?

    
    
    <sigh>
    
    

	THIGH!

    
    
    dye

    rye

    
    
    Apple pie!!!
    

    lady di.

    oh my

    I don't mean to pry.

    	Oh my.

    Bollox

    Maalox

    
    smallpox
    

    Beeblebrox

    
    fox in sox

    ox on box

    
    bagels & lox
    

    ladles & woks

    
    navels & c...
    
    um...
    
    
    clocks.  navels & clocks.

    scotch on the rocks... (wrong note?)
    

    
    
    	gortex smocks

    boat and docks
    ticks and tocks
    whose gonna wind all the clocks?

    lose yer frock

    falling stock

exlax

    bees wax

wax paper

    girlie gaper

    
    curly taper
    

    barfing wafer

 Morely Safer

    butcher - baker

    candlestick maker  (yeah, I know, too obvious....sue me)

    sue me? why do you wanna sue? 
    
    sue everyone, you, your clients...

    
    Steve, Jim P. will sue you for stealing his p_n.  :^)
    

    glue anyone, stu, for science

| <<< Note 257.305 by WMOIS::GIROUARD_C >>>

| why do you wanna sue?

	wannamonkey

    >sue me? why do you wanna sue? 
    
    >sue everyone, you, your clients...
    
    Isn't it time for George to step in and plug his SO?
    
    -b

    Isn't it time for porridge to step on and sluggish woe?

    The annual Endinburgh Tattoo is a most impressive event.
    
    Especially if you fought in the 2nd World War,and complain about
    how little your pension is and how the kids of today have no respect
    for their elders etc.
    

    -1 ??

    .312
    
    a tattoo, as cookie meant it, is an outdoor military exercise designed
    to entertain spectators.  it's an evening thing.  the edinburgh tattoo
    is quite wonderful if you're into military foofaraw.

    Spot on,Binder.
    
    It`s on once every year at the Edinburgh Castle.
    
    

     Forgive me for not going back and reading all these notes again.
    
    Have they developed a successful way of removing Tattoos yet ? Or is
    it laser treatment, plastic surgery, painful and expensive !!

	Martin, they don't have anything yet developed to remove tatoos from
that area yet.... 

    .... and her name is different to the last !!!! :*) :*)

    
    
    
    So, go into the grocery last night.  Gal says I like you tattoo, my
    name is Lisa (Have Lisa tattooed on my arm.  So I told her that if the
    wife ever sends me packing I'd come get her.  She says sounds good. :')
    
    
    
    Mike

| <<< Note 257.318 by GRANPA::MWANNEMACHER "NRA member in good standing" >>>




| So, go into the grocery last night.  Gal says I like you tattoo, my name is 
| Lisa                                                 ^^^

	Mike, she sounds like she needs to take a few english courses. :-)

    
    
    or I should take some typing courses........

	RE: .319

	Perhaps he was mistaken for the short guy on Fantasy Island. :-)

ME

    
    RE: short guy on Fantasy Island
    
    Then it should be "De Plane! De Plane Boss! De Plane!"
    
    :)
    

    
    I got mail today about a company that prints customized temporary
    tattoos.  The only problem is that there's a minimum order of 5,000 of
    the same design.

    That should last a while.

    
    Twould be something for the political parties to consider, perhaps.

    There must be quite a mark up on these tattoos.

    Yes I can picture it now.

    Must be those LSD-laced tattoos of urban legend.
    

    Bossthsthss!
    
    Zee PLAAAAANE!
    
    Zee PLAAAAANE!

    
    Not THAT kind of tattoo!

    Thssthsorry bossthsthssths.

I wouldn't have an kinkling on what to order

Make that an inkling .... oh never mind!!!

    I thought the annual Edinburgh Tattoo was very good on Saturday.
    
    Plenty of horn blowing.
    

    Is he a short little Scottish fellow who points at planes and shouts
    
    "arrr eye uff arrr uff eye arrrr!" ?

    I tought this was about tattoos
    

    .337
    
    It is.  Get with the program.

Is Mr. Security a relative of Mr. Covert?

    
    
    Nope.... Mr. Mailroom...
    

The culture of `body art' seems to be grabbing the attention of mainstream
folks these days.  Once restricted to the S&M groupies, it's spread through
the heavy metal and grunge fraternities into everyday culture.  What do the
'boxers at large feel about tattoos, scarring and piercing of sensitive bits?
List your bodily modifications here!  (Nothing much to mention on my part,
I once thought of getting a tattoo, but couldn't be arsed, and don't have
any modifications, other than a hole in my ear (intentional) and my foot
(unintentional, courtesy of a garden fork), and some interesting scars on
my hands caused by hitting people/objects)

Chris.

    see also 257.*
    

    There's a little shop in the Searstown Mall called the Piercing
    Pagoda. I point out to my kids how surreal that is but they don't
    appreciate it.

    	The real body art is building the body from within -- body
    	building.  THAT is something that is magnificent, and has been
    	admired throughout history as demonstrated by art and sculpture.

    	Any gang urchin can deface a building with spray paint and
    	a switchblade.  It takes a great architect to build it.

    
    
    	
    
    	re: .344
    
    	you can lose your health, but you can't lose your tattoo...:)
    
    
    	jim (with a little ink here and there) ;*)
    
    

    I think I may have put this in here before, but just in case:
    None, with no plans to change that.
    
    Are you trying to convince yourself to get one Chris ??
    
    I think they're pretty good, but if I had one I would only want it to
    be temporary ie 1 year or so. Also, on some people they look good and
    on others they look stupid.     

Maybe you should try vlip-ons instead?


\C

    wassat ??? The old hot iron treatment ??

Well if you can't get vlip ons, try clip ons....
Iron ons - euuuw :^(


\C

    wass a vlip on !! Do you mean one of those, 'wet it, slap it on, cover
    it with hair spray' jobs ?

    
    	tattoo's look good if you get them done by a GOOD artist. I get
    lots of nice comments on mine because it was done properly. I've seen
    others that look hideous.
    
    
    jim

    My philosophy is to try to avoid doing things that can't be undone, and
    to avoid doing things that hurt.  Tattoos kind of fall into the first
    category, and definitely fall into the second.  Body painting sounds
    like much more fun than tattooing.

    
    Body painting _does_ sound like fun.
    
    I admit that last summer during a binge I had a temporary tattoo
    applied to my left, er, um, {cough}.  My friend Mel took pictures of
    the application process.  I never can be president now, I suppose 8^).
                                                                     

Why, is Mel an illegal alien?  Or were the pictures promos for a soft-core
sex spoof?

    
    My father is big into body painting. Also, sidewalk, roof, tree,
    window, animal and grass painting. I know this because he helped
    paint our house when we moved in.
    
    Me:  "uh Dad, don't you think it would be a good idea to let
          me hold that bucket of paint while you move that lad..."
    
    		SPLASH
    
    Dad: (now looking at son with a bucket of blue paint poured
         over his head) "Yeah, you might be right"
    
    -b

    
    re: .354
    
    
    Nope...
    
    She inhaled during the application...
    

    > I never can be president now, I suppose 8^).
    
    I'll vote for you Ms Deb ! ! ! 
    
    :-)
    Dan

    	Wouldn't that be presidette?

    
    Prez_idebt.

    Errr, ok.

    why Deb you wild and wooley babe!

    I`m thinking of getting a spider`s web on one side of my neck,
    and a picture of the Union Jack on the other side. On the inside
    of my bottom lip,I thought I might have "made in England" tattooed.
    
    Good idea,eh?
    

    Stu, you just need a number tattooed inside your upper lip so they can
    keep track of you along with all the other equines.

    they can just laser tag him like they do cattle, and eventually
    followers of the Beast.

    You know Mike, you scare me, you really do.  

    Well cattle ranchers really are using that technology to track their
    herds now.

    The idea that you could actually be serious about branding people you
    deem to be evil and under the influence of the devil scares me. 
    Perhaps I read your reply wrong or maybe it was tongue in cheek.  I
    found it to be quite chilling. 

 I think you read wrong.

    <<< Note 257.366 by OUTSRC::HEISER "National Atheists Day - April 1" >>>
    
    they can just laser tag him like they do cattle, and eventually
    followers of the Beast.				 ^^^^^^^^^^
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    
    
    
    What does this mean then? 
    
    Brian

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    	re .371
    
    	What does that mean?
    
    	According to end-times predictions, ALL people (except those
    	who resist -- at their own peril) will bear the mark of the 
    	Beast.
    
    	Many theories abound regarding what exactly that mark will be,
    	but without it you will not be able to participate in simple
    	economic transactions, travel, or do much of anything else in
    	the end-time society.  Some theorize that the "mark" will be a 
    	particular credit card, or perhaps a social security number, or 
    	maybe  something more mark-like, such as a tattoo or a computer 
    	chip imbedded in your hand or forehead.

    What if you have no hands or a head?

 You'd be handless and/or headless

    I suppose I'd be to scary looking to buy from or sell to anyway.

    "Ooooo! This guy with no hands and no head tried to sell me a watch!"

>    The idea that you could actually be serious about branding people you
>    deem to be evil and under the influence of the devil scares me. 
>    Perhaps I read your reply wrong or maybe it was tongue in cheek.  I
>    found it to be quite chilling. 
    
    I won't have anything to do with that.  Besides, I'll be long gone by
    then.
    
    Mike

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    This thread seems a bit quiet. Does this mean that Tattoos and piercings
    have become socially unaccepteable again.
    
    This doesn't reflect newgroup trends.
    
    It seems that ear, nose and navel pierces are quite popular, but
    mention a pierce "down there" and un-bodymodded people still squick.
    
    
    Personally I think my PA is great, unfortunately my wife doesn't think
    so. "I'm not going anywhere near *that*"
    
    Still, she's several thousand miles away, and will be for several more
    months, by which time the Ring might be even bigger :-) !
    
    
    
    Conrad
                                         

    
    	Dare I ask what a PA is?
    
    	Pierced ***hole?
    

    
    
    Prince Albert , it's very well documented, and supposedly has been
    a common male piercing for many years.
    
    
    
    Conrad

She doesn't want Prince Albert in the can?

>>    This thread seems a bit quiet. Does this mean that Tattoos and piercings
>>    have become socially unaccepteable again.


	Well, even after my first experience (somewhere back in this 
string) I still went out and braved another one!  Of course, it's very
beautiful and tasteful - I got a number of compliments on it over the 
summer  - I got them to match the colors and mood of the first one so that 
they compliment each other very nicely  - right Mike???   :-)

I've been looking again lately......


Pat
	

    
    
    
    But of course.....

    
    
    >I've been looking again lately.....
    
    Me too.
    
    But I got my first one before I met my wife, and there are some pretty
    fundamental differences of opinion about bodyart between us.
    
    If I get another there's an awful lot more to consider than just
    another permanent drawing.
    
    
    Conrad

        For the curious, check out the BME homepage for piercing pics and
        punctured P*s.
        
        http://www.io.org/~bme/pierce/bme-pg.html
        

    
    
    
    
    been there.
    
    
    Even I think some of them are grotesque, but some I think are quite
    attractive.
    
    I *know* a lot of people won't agree , but diversity is what makes the
    world an interesting place.
    
    
    Conrad

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     When people get around to piercing their genitals, it seems that they
    have a surfeit of free time and a lack of imagination when it comes to
    filling it. It's not a case of being squicked, particularly, it's more
    a matter of "what a stupid thing to do." Then again, I don't see
    injecting ink into one's dermis as being a terribly bright activity
    either. Seems like a call for attention- "look at ME!" based on the
    oddity/shock value. I'd rather DO something worthy of attention than
    just look different. Different strokes.
    
     What's next, a nose piercing? Or cosmetic amputation?

    >> What's next, a nose piercing? Or cosmetic amputation?
    
    I've already seen nose piercings, on TV anyway...
    
    What's next, one asks?  Remember when they grew that human ear
    on the back of a mouse a while ago?  I predict that people will
    start to grow extra parts on their faces.  This should make family
    reunions even more entertaining:  "Why Johnny, I hardly recognize
    you.  You've grown so much!  And your face... looks different..."
    
    Chris

    
    	I read a very strange story sometime in the last couple years a-
    	bout a married woman who had extra vaginas surgically inserted
    	all over her body so that her husband and some [all?] of his
    	friends could participate in a "group rogering".
    
    	Warped.
    

    <----- Urban Legend alert!

    TTWA where'd they get them, at the local vagina outlet?

    
    	Brian, it was a short story in a book of fiction.
    
    	Chip, I have no idea.  I'll try to find the story and see if
    	it was transplants or creative cosmetic surgery.
    

    ^For the curious, check out the BME homepage for piercing pics and
    ^punctured P*s.
    ^
    ^        http://www.io.org/~bme/pierce/bme-pg.html
    
    GROSS!!!!

>    Personally I think my PA is great

Just what we needed - "Micropuss II - The Oddities Continue".


> unfortunately my wife doesn't think so. "I'm not going anywhere near *that*"

Have a nice life, Pilgrim. I'll try to get Jocelyn Elders' current address 
for you.

    
    
    
    
    re .382 - .397
    
    
    As I thought, socially unnaccepteable.
    
    
    I guess I'll just have to keep my big mouth shut, and look nice and
    conventional in order not to show any form of deviation from the
    professional android.
    
    
    
    

>    I guess I'll just have to keep my big mouth shut

While you're at it, don't forget your fly.

    
    	A tattoo or piercing can be tasteful or gross, depending on where
    and how it is done. Each to his own I say, although I do have a hard
    time conversing with someone who has a stud in their tongue...:*)
    
    
    jim

    How about a stud on the front of their ass?
    
    I would have a very difficult time with this.

>><<< Note 257.398 by CSC32::PRICE >>>
      
   >>As I thought, socially unnaccepteable.
  >>I guess I'll just have to keep my big mouth shut, and look nice and
  >>  conventional in order not to show any form of deviation from the
  >>  professional android.

	Not really.   As long as you understand you can't / won't change
	anyone else, and that you may not always be "acceptable" to 
	other people.  Just as not everyone is "acceptable" to me - weather
	I want to admit that or not......

	Pick your wars carefully.


Pat
    
    
    
    

    >As I thought, socially unnaccepteable.
    
    >I guess I'll just have to keep my big mouth shut, and look nice and
    >conventional in order not to show any form of deviation from the
    >professional android.
    
     As if this isn't the reaction you're looking for. You WANT to stand
    out in a crowd. If nobody had replied, you'd be frustrated. I think
    it's a totally dorky thing to do, but if it flies your flag who's to
    say it's wrong? You aren't hurting anyone else by poking holes in your
    peter. Except, perhaps, your wife. But it doesn't sound like she was
    exactly consulted...
    

    Pat, "whether" nnttm

    
    	Chip, she used the right word.
    
    	You see, she was sort of hazy on the concept.
    

    ahhh, thanks for clearing that up Shawn.

	 You guys have to rain all over everything......

    
    
    Looking to get another piece of body art. Nothing overwhelming, but
    don't like traveling to other states to get one. Wish Ma would change
    it's stupid law.
    
    ed

its.  NNTTM.  You might want to submit any text in your tattoo to the SOAPBOX
Olympic Spelling Team.

    
    	RE: Ed
    
    	There are a few shops right around Seabrook/Hampton Beach, just
    	over the border.
    

    
    
    Their wont bee any techs in my tattoo four the SOAPBOX Olympic Spelling
    Team to reveiw. SIWTY.
    
    ed

    
    Re 410
    
    I know, I've gotten some there. I just don't like to travel that far.
    
    

    
    	Where do you go ... Jim's?  Tattoo America?
    

    
    
    
    re .413
    
    
    Barry Louvaine's,
    
    Earslfield, Sarf Lundun
    

    
    	England sure is a long way from Colorado, even as the crow flies.
    
    	8^)
    

    
    
    Don't I just know it !
    
    It's a long way culturally, as well as geographically !
    
    
    
    

    
    Re .413
    
    Tattoo America. They used to have one in Nashua. I was looking for an
    'illegal' tattoo party in MA somewhere.
    
    ed

    
    
    	Still do have on in Nashua I believe.  I think they moved
    	from their Canal St. location to Main St.  Near Headlines
    	and D'Angelo's.
    

    
    I think they moved from the main st location also, last time I was by
    there  I think the building was empty.
    
    ed

    
    there is also a parlor on route 101 heading east from milford towards
    nashua...everytime i drive by, i am tempted....
    
    

  .420  {scowl}

>>    there is also a parlor on route 101 heading east from milford towards
>>    nashua...everytime i drive by, i am tempted....


	Where on 101???   I've never noticed.   If you really want
	to go, I'll go with you!   hey, we could have a "Raq get's 
	tattoo'd"  bash!!!      I'm sure Jack would go, since he lives 
	right there!

	Who else......
    
    

    
    
    There's also one on Rt. 13 in Brooline, N.H. for you crazies...
    

    Don't forget to bring the hitchhiker with you! You'll feel pretty bad
    about it.

    
    	Ed, if someone knows of an "illegal" tattoo party I'd seriously
    	doubt they'll post the details in here.  8^)
    
    	Besides, that's not where people go to get good work done.  That's
    	where self-proclaimed "tattoo masters" go to impress people with
    	sub-standard work.
    

I must have missed this. But is someone saying that Tattoos are against the 
law in the PRM?!

    
    
    	My cousin lives down south somewhere and has built quite
    	a reputation for himself on his tattoo artistry.  His
    	work has been in some magazines if I remember it correctly.
    

    
    	Yes, tattooing is illegal here.
    
    	But it's legal in RI/CT/NH and probably 40 other states in the US.
    

    
    i'm still thinking about it, pat...but you'll get the call if it's a
    yes... :> :> :>
    
    

    
    
    I'd rather call attention to myself in a more, transient manner... such
    as wearing a beanie with a propellor and making flatulence noises...

    
    And snoring.  Don't forget snoring.
    
    

    
    
    That too... but only on special occasions and definitely ONLY with
    friends...
    
    :)
    

    
    	Andy, you really know how to party.
    
    	If you were also a bowling machine there'd be no woman who could
    	resist you.
    

    
    
    > no woman who could resist you.
    
    Do you mean that in an electrical sense???
    
    :)
    

    There seems to be a current of tension in here...

    		Yeah? Well I can drive women MAD!
    		    .
    		   .
    		(=)
    		 |
    		 |
    		 |
    		 |
    		 |

    
    	Yes, Andy ... you have the capacity to be revolting.
    

    Well, love Hertz.

    I'm not listening to you guys!!!!
    
    I'm closing you out... NOW!!!
    
    I'll just sit here and contemplate my navel...
    
    
    ohmmmmmm... ohmmmmmm.... ohmmmmmmm...
    

    Resistance is futile. You must comply.

    
    	Lest ye impede the flow of events.
    

    We are borg-warner.  You will be rewired.

    You Locutus when you talk like that.

   
    	>Yes, tattooing is illegal here.
    

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

        Makes me wonder about "...the Land of the Free" - there seem to
        be more little controlling regulations in this country than many
        others I've lived in.
        
        Not complaining, just observing,
        
        Andy (tattooed but unpierced)
        

>>        Makes me wonder about "...the Land of the Free" - there seem to


	The way it was told to me, and I don't have any supporting 
documentation, is that where the Government Center is today, there was a 
area of tattoo shops and "other kinds of business'" - in order for the city 
to get the land and not have to pay for it - they decided to "clean" up the 
city and outlaw tattoo shops, and presumably whatever else was there.

FWIW

    .446
    
    Scollay Square.  There was unsavory business there, but there was also
    other business - including theaters that had in the not too-distant
    past been among the finest vaudeville houses in the country.  The old
    Howard Theater comes to mind.

    At the bottom of my road is "Ian`s of Reading" which I think is rather
    famous in tattooing circles. 
    
    I`ve never been there myself,but I did know a girl who worked there.
    She was stark raving mad (imo) with tattoo`s everywhere and a big
    fetish for all things bondage. Er,not with myself,mind. 
    

    >a big fetish for all things bondage. Er,not with myself,mind. 
    
     More's the pity. ;-)
    
    re: Tattoo America on Canal St In Nashua
    
     It was open last night when I went by. Rumors of its closing appear
    premature.

    Ahhhh, you wouldn`t happen to know her phone number/ address would
    ya??? :')

    |At the bottom of my road is "Ian`s of Reading" which I think is rather
    |famous in tattooing circles.

    Over here, tattooing circles wouldn't be very popular. Tattooing birds,
    snakes, hearts and complex designs is the rage over here. 

    So brits just like circles eh?

Do those aliens who do crop circles also favor tattoo circles?

    Well, what goes around comes around I guess.

    
    Wheel, you might be right.
    
    

    So, where is the hub of activity, tatoowise?

Certainly not in the Hub.  BTW, I find it amusing that chauvinistic
Massachusettsians call Boston the Hub.  Everybody knows that the Hub
is 149th St. and 3rd Ave. in the South Bronx.

>					Everybody knows that the Hub
> is 149th St. and 3rd Ave. in the South Bronx.

I thought it was that bar up on South Brighton Avenue in Syracuse!