Conference back40::soapbox

    Didn't he also say:

    "Get these damn rats out of here!"

    and lest we forget:

    "My kingdom for a flushing toilet."

    
    Yup, that's him, that's the one!
    

    Working desperately to meet an unrelenting deadline, inventor
    mathemetician Archibald Julian struggled to put the finishing touches
    on his crowning career achievement - DECEMBER! - which was integrated
    with his other works to create the calendar we still use today.
    
    ...er, is it Friday yet?

    no.

    Well, then, forget what I said.  It all happened on Friday, November
    29.

	... in 1980, John Lennon was shot and killed by Mark Chapman.
	
	:-(
	'
	
	

	And the saddest thing about it was I had to hear it from Howard Cosell,
and then moments later Miami kicked a fieldgoal and beat the Patriots.....

    No you didn't.  You saw the Patriots lining up a field goal to beat the
    Dolphins, but it was blocked.

	Gregg Allman was born 47 years ago today.

    James Thurber born 100 yrs ago.

A year ago today, I pulled my pants down.

Glenn

Where's Dierdre?  

I wore a dress that day.

Dierdre

    Isn't today Sammy Davis Jr.'s B'Day? (or would've been)

> was the 'box trial already a year ago?

I think we could look at almost any date, and Glenn
would be able to respond that it was the anniversary
of a pantz-being-pulled-down, if you follow me.

(Follow me?!?  Very good!  Very good!)

    Well, let's everybody think about this now. Did you, at anytime during
    the day of December 8, 1993, pull your pants down?
    
    Dierdre/Pamela/Glenn/Deirdre/Ned

OtDiH:

Christ's grandma got preggers.

    Oh Glenn,
    
    Are you the Diedre (said so on her license plate) that drove the white
    minivan that was in front of me on 93N in Boston yesterday... the one
    who was obviously bereft of a clue?
    
    Didn't think so, but thought I'd ask... :-)
    
    Did get to stare at the back of vehicle long enough though to know that
    it is indeed spelled "D I E D R E"
    
    -b

    
    The woman I work with spells it "Deirdre".
    
    I suppose "Diedre" could be kin to that basketball player "Anfernee".
                                                              

People can spell their names any way they want.

However, the Anglicized version of the gaelic name is definitely correctly
spelled "Deirdre".

Substitutes must be taken at face value.

/john

    Thank you /john. ;-)
    
    Deirdre

    11 years ago today, Michael Jackson set fire to his hair doing a Pepsi
    commercial.  
    
    Brian

    Pretty pathetic when all we can come up with is Michael Jackson setting
    himself on fire.

    -1 hey, this could be a potential holiday.. :-)

    50 years ago today was the liberation of the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp.
    
    

    >11 years ago today, Michael Jackson set fire to his hair doing a Pepsi
    >commercial.  
    
    Pardon me for being totally politically incorrect as I mention
    the following joke which was popular at the time, but well,
    it was funny. If you think you might be offended by a joke
    which makes reference to Mr. Jackson's African American
    Heritage, please hit next unseen NOW!!!
    
    What is Michael Jackson's favorite charity?
    
    	The Ignited Negro College Fund
    
    And What is that Charity's Slogan?
    
    	A mind is a terrible thing to baste.
    

    38 years ago today, the USAF retired its last operational P-51 to the
    Air Force museum.
    
    Bob

re: Michael Jackson's favorite charity

Richard Pryor was in on that as well, if I recall . . . 

    
    The National Geographic Society was founded on this day in 1888.
                                                                 

The Challenger disaster.

    el delbalso
    
    that's incredible, I was just trying to think when that was about
    5 minutes ago.

>                              -< Nine years ago >-
>
>The Challenger disaster.

I do remember..  I was in Colorado Springs then.

_Tak

I was in Berlin.

| <<< Note 102.34 by COVERT::COVERT "John R. Covert" >>>


| I was in Berlin.

	I grew up in Berlin. It's a cow town, but I guess someone has to live
there.... who would think that Hudson seemed like a big town after living in
Berlin.... :-)

 I was in Woburn, Ma 

    At what point in history were you in Woburn?

    I was eating dinner at a friends who told me it had happened. I didn't
    believe him and it wasn't till the next day that I heard it on the
    news that I found it was true.

    >The Challenger disaster.
    
    I was working at Digital in Littleton at the time (LJ02). We were
    sitting at lunch playing chess (a typical lunchtime activity back
    in those days). Jim Grant, a consultant for the group, walked
    over to the table. I was going to ask him if he wanted the next
    game (I was winning), when he told us what had happened. We were
    all stunned. It was horrible. Needless to say, that was the end
    of the chess playing for that day. That was pretty much the end
    of everything for that day... we all just moped around.
    
    -b

  The event that made O-Ring a house hold word.

  George

RE:   <<< Note 102.37 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "hapless-random-thought-patterns" >>>

   > At what point in history were you in Woburn?

    From May of 1983-~March of 1988 when I was moved to Andover, Ma



   Jim

    
    Tonight is New Moon.
    
    Also, on this day in 1917 the first commercial jazz recording was
    released.  I don't know what it was.

    
    
    <--- is that why i couldn't find a moon sunday nite???
    
    

    	Like Brian Markey, I was working in LJO at the time. Had just
    	finished a run when I saw people watching a TV in the room
    	where they kept the copy machine, etc. I asked what was going
    	on. Someone told me the space shuttle had just blown up.
    
    	Scott

    %0 years ago today Pvt. Eddie Slovik was executed for dissertion. He
    was the first and last executed since the Civil War for cowardice.

    desertion

Littleton must've been the place to be the day
of the Challenger explosion.  I was working at
LTN2.  (Was also there the day we had a minor
earthquake.)

    >Was also there the day we had a minor earthquake.
    
    Me too (at LJO, which was pretty much on the "epicenter". A 2.0
    on the Richter scale (not much, but sit right on top of a 2.0
    sometime and tell me what you think after you've cleaned your
    underwear!)
    
    It was about 7:00 at night, in the winter or early spring,
    and the whole building seemed to just life 4 or 5 inches
    in the air. There was a very loud bang, and I thought a
    snow plow had hit the building. It lasted less than a second).
    I called the Littleton PD and they told me "apparently, that
    was an earthquake." No $%!*
    
    -b
    

    .46
    Thanks...the paper is wrong also.

    That was supposed to be "lift" not "life".

    
    
    i thinq we figured that out... :>
    

RE: 102.43 by GAVEL::JANDROW "brain cramp"

> {New Moon on Monday} <--- is that why i couldn't find a moon sunday nite???

Probably.  The day before the new Moon,  the Moon would rise just before 
dawn,  and would be very low in the sky,  not very bright,  and would be 
very hard to spot against the glow of sunrise.

Tonight,  if you have a very good view to the West,  look for the new Moon just
after sunset in the western sky


Phil

    A 2.0 quake?  You wouldn't have even felt it, I'd have thought.  Most
    people don't feel a local quake until it gets above 3.0.  
    
    DougO

    50 years ago yesterday the Wilhelm Gustloff, carrying 7,500 German
    refugees from Danzig to Kiel, was hit by 3 Soviet torpedos.6000-6500 dead.

    Oh, we felt it all right. It probably wasn't 2.0 where I
    was sitting. That's what the nearest lab measured it at.
    
    It was definitely very scary. It was like my chair jumped
    off the ground, except it never left the ground... it
    was the ground that was doing the jumping. Just one big
    thrust, a loud bang, and it was over (I'm talking about
    the earthquake, honest I am :-)
    
    -b

> Most people don't feel a local quake until it gets above 3.0.  

And even then, it's only the ones who've bound up their abdomens with
silk scarves that show any ill effects.

    
    Youall really have to try that 8^).

    I don't think I have a scarf long enough to wrap around my abdomen.

RE:         <<< Note 102.47 by SUBPAC::JJENSEN "Jojo the Fishing Widow" >>>

>Littleton must've been the place to be the day
>of the Challenger explosion.  I was working at
>LTN2.  (Was also there the day we had a minor
>earthquake.)



 I was there later in the day for a meeting!



Jim

Yep, I remember the commotion that day, Jim.
We were pretty excited because everyone thought
the Muppet guy was visiting, but then the truth
came out.  It was pretty disappointing.    ;^)

RE:         <<< Note 102.60 by SUBPAC::JJENSEN "Jojo the Fishing Widow" >>>

>Yep, I remember the commotion that day, Jim.
>We were pretty excited because everyone thought
>the Muppet guy was visiting, but then the truth
>came out.  It was pretty disappointing.    ;^)


 :-) one guy in the meeting was so disappointed, he slammed his briefcase
 shut and stomped out of the meeting..


 

    Re: Challenger explosion
    
    Someone in my old group was working for another company then, and was
    visiting one of the shuttle contractors that day.  Their immediate
    reaction?  Get out the shredders.

    
    February 1, 1902:  Langston Hughes born.

    oo's 'e then ?

    
    A writer.

    Coooo that was quick.

    
    It's Groundhog Day!

    You've been staying up just for that haven't you !!! :*)

    A snarf was born.

    Actually talking of Groundhog Day it's already been 0000 2-2-95
    once today for me, maybe it really is that freaky day......
    
    :^)

    Aren't you glad we're up late?

    Yeah, could be very boring otherwise. 
    
    :^|

    I gotta go to bed. 8-p 

    
    
    On this day thirty years ago, I was given as a gift to my mother. :*)
    Actually, I think she was the gift to me.
    
    And, it's also groundhogs day, and no I did not see my shadow. :}
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    .64
    
    langston hughes, 'murican black writer, wrote with a real social
    conscience.  died in 1967, i think.  i don't have any of his longer
    stuff on line, but here's a very short example:
    
             I swear to the Lord
             I still can't see
             Why Democracy means
             Everybody but me.
    
                            -- Langston Hughes, "The Black Man Speaks"

    I thought Langston Hughes was more a poet than a 'writer'.
    
    DougO

Poets are writers, no?

	1973	The "Midnight Special" tv show debuted.  Trivia - who 
		hosted?

	1979	Sid Vicious died

	1942	Graham Nash born

 Wolfman Jack was it, I believe..




 Jim

    
    RE: .78
    
    What's a " Sid Vicious"?
    
    Seriously...
    

Charming fella.... used to like to wear safety pins through his cheeks and 
spit on his audience.  Can't say I ever enjoyed his music. (if you could
call it that)

    
    
    didn't Sid Vicious carve a swastika in his girlfriend's chest and then
    kill himself?
    
    

	I think he died of a heroin overdose, but I'm not sure

    
    
    sid vicious was part of the 'sex pistols', no???
    
    

    Yes, Sid Vicious was a Sex Pistol, same group that brought Johnie
    Rotten to fame (who I happen to like, by the way, as a member of
    Public Image Limited).
    
    Vicious was the bass player of the Sex Pistols, or so they say.
    You see, he couldn't play a lick, both because he was always too
    bombed and also because he didn't know how. They used to just
    have a cord dangling from his bass guitar that was tied to
    the side of the amplifer. The real bass player (on the road)
    was a roadie who played from off-stage. In the studio, the guitar
    player handled the bass duty.
    
    Rotten or vicious, I forget which onc, once vomited on an
    old woman on an airplane because she made faces at him.
    
    Sid Vicious' attempt at a solo career was a real treat! His
    debut at CBGB was a disaster, but as a punk vocalist, the
    man could deliver (seriously).
    
    The movie "Sid and Nancy" immortalized their relationship;
    the movie starred Gary Oldman (sp?) as Sid... Gary went
    on to appear in JFK (as Oswald) and in FFC's "Dracula"
    (as The Count)... he's currently appearing in the life
    Story of Beethoven (as well as another movie, the title
    of which escapes me at the moment)...
    
    ANYWAY... Sid was cool, and I'm vomiting on and thumpin'
    the first wank who says otherwise!!!! :-) :-) :-)
    
    -b

>>    the movie starred Gary Oldman (sp?) as Sid... Gary went

        That's the right spelling.  He was also riveting as
	Drexel in "True Romance".  Unreal.
    
>>    ANYWAY... Sid was cool

	Oh right, way cool.  ;>

    >he's currently appearing in the life Story of Beethoven
    
    "Immortal Beloved" as released hereabouts.  Haven't seen it yet.
    
    DougO

    
    sid vicious... johnie rotten...
    
    These are real names??
    
    Sorta like Mr. Glyph???
    

No, their real names were Sidney Vicious and John Rotten.

    
    I think Johnny Rotten's last name was really...Lydon?  Something like
    that?							     

    
    
    
    That's Johnathan Rotten.

    Mz. Deb is correct... it's Lydon.
    
    -b

    
    They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old,
    Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
    At the the going down of the sun and in the morning,
    We will remember them.
    
                       L. Binyon
    

	Babe Ruth was born 100 years ago today. If he were alive, Willard Scott
would have shown his pretty mug on the teevee screen.... :-)

    five months ago today I left England for the Colonies !

    And, how do you like it?
    
    
    joan 

    Historical SNARF.

    re .98
    
    "He left his country for his country's good"      :-) :-)

    50 yers ago today, Eric Clapton was born.

    That's why there was so much E.C. music and talk about on the radio
    this AM.  Not that that's a bad thing mind you, just an interesting
    pondering for my normally dull morning commute.  

    
    I was separated from Army at Ft Jackson SC on this day in 1973.

25 years ago, several students lost their lives on the campus
of Kent State University in Ohio.

    	re .-1
    
    	I was surprised that there wasn't a topic in here for that.
    	Maybe too many of us are too young.  

I seem to recall in 'boxes past that we did have a dedicated topic.
I'm not sure whether that was good or bad. I just wanted to ensure
that it was remembered.

    Re a few back.
    
    What happened on campus that caused 25 deaths ?

    
    No no.  25 years ago, 4 deaths.

    Oh I see...so, errrm, what happened?

     National Guard troops called out by the guvnah ended up firing on
    students at an anti-Viet Nam protest. 4 dead, nine injured.

    
    Tin soldiers and Nixon coming
    We're finally on our own
    This summer I hear the drumming
    Four dead in Ohio
    
    Gotta get down to it
    Soldiers are cutting us down
    Should have been done long ago
    What if you knew her and
    Found her dead on the ground?
    How can you run when you know?

    >>maybe too many of us are too you.
    
    
    wasn't even born when that happened...tho i was just about 4 months in
    the making... :>
    
    but i do remember reading about the story many years later...
    
    

>    Prelude to Waco - different issue, same script

The protestors at Kent State were unarmed.  They confronted the establishment.
The Branch Davidians were heavily armed.  The establishment confronted them.

    
    
    feliz cinco de mayo!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    bring on the margeritas (sp)
    
    

    
    
    
    la cooka racha, la cooka racha....  :*)
    
    
    
    Ok, it's spelled wrong, but it's phoenetically correct. :*)
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    i forget - is this the day of the grito, or of the battle of puebla?

    
    
    something to do with the french, i think....
    
    

    
    On this day in 1904, Cy Young pitched the first perfect game.

    Coooooo.... :*)

    
    
    16 years ago today, i made my first communion at st. edward's church...
    
    

May 12th, 1979 -- A Saturday.

    May 12th, 1948 -- My brother was born.

    It was 10 year ago today I met my mother n law.
    
    Oh joy!

    
    
    1896 Spitting on a sidewalk in NYC made illegal
    1898 US bombarded San Juan
    1937 George Carlin born
    

    
    
    > May 12th, 1979 -- A Saturday.
    
    
    your point???
    
    

He's just showing off his perpetual calendar.

re:          <<< Note 102.126 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Indeedy Do Da Day" >>>

>    May 12th, 1948 -- My brother was born.

Wow - older'n me . . . 

How many of him are there?

    only 33.

    
    Are the rest of your family members as, er, numerous as you and your
    brother?

    
    
    
    On this day in 1963 my parents were married.  Celebrating
    32 years of marriage. :*)
    
    
    Terrie
    

    |-< And they still hold hands and kiss in public! :*) >-
    
    But are they doing that to each other?

    
    
    
    Of course they are!!!
    
    
    :*)
    

    
    
    little bro turns 20 today...
    
    and steve parents will have been married 34 years tomorrow...
    
    

 My Dad was born 79 years ago




 Jim

    
    ...ten years ago, French commandos blew up the Rainbow Warrior
    in a New Zealand harbour, killing one crewman.
    

	Well, I won't be in tomorrow, as I have a class to go to, but 7 years
ago tomorrow, I got my job at Digital.


Glen

    In 1804 the Vice President and Secretary of the Treasury (Alexander
    Hamilton) had a pistol duel in Joisey.  Hamilton was wounded.

    	His opponent was Aaron Burr.  Hamilton later succumbed to
    	his wounds in New York.  (Or was it Pennsylvania...)

    Really?  Hamilton was wounded in New York?  I heard he wuz wounded in
    the South End.
    

    	Actually he was wounded in the fracas. 

    
    And we all know how painful that can be.
    

    On this day in 1895, Oscar Hammerstein II was born.  Celebrate the day
    by singing a few verses of "Shall We Dance" or "Climb Every Mountain"
    or "If I Loved You" or "Old Man River" or "Oh, What a Beautiful
    Morning."

    
    On this day in 1862, Congress authorized the Medal of Honor
    

    
    
    100BC Julius Caesar born
    1908  Milton Berle born
    1895  Buckminster Fuller born
    
    

    On this day in history, I was born
    
    The only problem I have
    
    
    I can remember the day
    
    
    Not the year
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I was too young, I think!!!!!:>)
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Or maybe not:-)

    
    
    Well, a heart-felt Happy Birthday to you!  :*)
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    On this day in 1789, the Bourbon monarchy of France was overthrown by
    the sansculotte rabble, commencing with the destruction of the
    Bastille.  See the Song Lyrics topic for Mr_Topaz' most recent entry.

    
    
    HAPPY BASTILLE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    

    On tomorrow's day in history, from the Clinton Countdown Calendar:
    
    7/15/92:  The Democratic Party nominated Bill Clinton as its
              Presidential Candidate, with Al Gore Jr. his Vice
              President.
    
    Chris

    
    
    
    Let's not and say we did.........
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    :*)
    Terrie
    

    
    Let's not and say we didn't.......
    
    
    Dan

    
    
    Don't tell mz_deb... she'll want to have a bash...

    
    
    tomorrow will mark my 4th anniversary with what used to be known as
    (and is still sometimes referred to as) dec...
    
    

    
    Did somebody say 'party'?!
    
    

    
    
    
    Can we have it in The Rt. 495/Littleton belt this time?
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    Don't mention belts...
    
    mz_deb will want to start doing body shots...
    

    
    Andy, you're full of good suggestions today.
    
    

    
    
    Ah, so I should wear my belly jelly to this one?  :*)
    

    
    
    	Only if I can wear my bikini belt.....  =)
    

    On tomorrow's day in history, from the Clinton Countdown Calendar
    (80 Weeks until Clinton leaves office):
    
    7/22/92:  USA Today presented an interview with Clinton
              whereas Clinton had stated in 1990 that he had never
              "Broken any drug law."
    
    
    "Whereas"?  Methinks there's a line missing from this, or perhaps
    someone's confused about that "whereas" means.
    
    Chris

Whereas that Wite-Out (tm)?

    Yesterday, 7/20, was the 26th anniversary of man's first walk 
    on the moon.
    
    Sue

    What was the New Yorks Times headline the next day?

    
    <waves hand frantically>
    
    

 Now, that's a wierd headline!

    wired
    
    nnttm
    

    Actually, he was seen in the side dishes of the Machus Red Fox.

	>>and he has never been
        >>seen again. 

	that's quite the statement to put forth.  how do you know?

| and he has never been seen again.

	He's seen every time they show a game at Giant Stadium! Well... at
least his new home is..... TOUCHDOWN!!!!!

re .174:


>    Actually, he was seen in the side dishes of the Machus Red Fox.

naah, everyone knows he's now a fine upstanding pillar of his
community.

(although noone is sure _which_ pillar)

    
    
    
    re -1
    
    I heard he was a cornerstone of his community!!
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    i once attended a wedding in the lovely state of new jersey
    where, ethnically homogenous factions of certain organizations
    known for having suspicious lumps in their formal wear, were
    gathered to jettison their offspring toward marital bliss.
    several of the attendees were eager to share their knowledge
    regarding the whereabouts of certain deceased teamsters presidents.
    i concluded that great violence had been done to said president
    since no two marital enforcers offered the same location.

    so look in some combination of, the bottom of the sea (with
    accompanying marine life), the meadowlands, giant stadium,
    a mall in newark, an unwittingly shared coffin somewhere in
    the midwest, and any number of landfills.

    -b

    OTDIH, ::Markey outdid himself with the following gem:
    
    "ethnically homogenous factions of certain organizations known for
    having suspicious lumps in their formal wear"
    
    ROTFL, |-{:-)
    

    Over sized genitalia?

    
    
    30-someodd years ago, madonna louise (veronica) ciccone was born.
    
    
    not that anyone else out there cares... ;>
    

    
    
    She some sort of hooker or something???
    

    .184
    
    No, she's a ballplayer.
    
    TOO perfect!

    it was er 37 yrs.... errrr I gota go.

    On this day in 1959, at 11:37 p.m. Mountain time, a magnitude 7.6
    earthquake struck Hebgen Lake, Montana, in the heart of the state's
    Madison River fishing country.  It tilted the entire seven-mile-wide
    lake bed like a bowl, raising one side seven feet and dropping the
    other side the same seven feet.  A 20-foot tidal wave swept over the
    earth-filled dam at the lake's outlet, tossing campers and cars about
    like kindling as it roared down the Madison River valley.
    
    About 20 minutes after the first shock, a buttress of dolomite gave way
    and 80 million tons of earth and rock, the entire top of a mountain,
    came thundering down into the narrow valley about eight miles below the
    dam, flowing like syrup 350 feet up the opposite valley wall and 3/4
    mile in each direction up and down the valley, forming a dam and
    creating Quake lake.  In the ensuing months, the U. S. Army Corps of
    Engineers cut a channel 250 feet wide and 14 feet deep over the
    1.5-mile-long slide to prevent dammed water from backing up to
    undermine the foundations of Hebgen Dam.
    
    Yellowstone Park's geothermal features wre thrown into turmoil; geysers
    that had not erupted in decades began spouting continuously, and others
    died.
    
    28 people are known to have been killed, 19 of them buried under the
    massive slide.

    like, wow....

    Looks like She of the Grand Tetons didn't take her Earth-Control pillz.
                     

    Makes you wonder about how Lake Titicaca got it's name. 8^o

          YaKnow, I've wondered about that for absolutely DECADES...
          

    
    o.t.d. in 1869, the waffle iron was invented for people who
    had wrinkled waffles...
    
    -b

    
    Hey, I just bought a reversible griddle/waffle iron!
    
    I had about 93 grilled cheese sandwiches this weekend.  I didn't try
    making them on the waffly side, tho.  Hmm.
    
    

    
>>    I had about 93 grilled cheese sandwiches this weekend.


	Good.  Grilled cheese sandwiches are really good for you.


	(she said, dementedly)

    
    
    Only if you smear the bread with lots of butter, My Lady.
    

Grilled cheese
A little dab'll do ya.

    Deb in air?

    
    Deb & Nair
    

    
    Nair on grilled cheese?  Surely you jest!
    
    OK, so I didn't have 93.  I wanted to, tho 8^q.  
    
    

    From the Clinton Countdown Calendar (75 weeks until Clinton
    leaves office)
    
    On this day in history, August 22, 1991:
    
    	Al Gore told the media he would not be a candidate
    	for President or Vice President in the 1992 elections.
    	After citing "family" as his main reason for not running
    	Gore said "People are not used to putting family
    	considerations in the same balancing scale as those
    	world issues and political strategies but I'll tell you this,
    	it's important enough to me that I made it impossible
    	to get my whole heart into a national campaign."
    
    Chris

    re: .199
    
    >Deb in air?
    
    I can attest to that...
    

    You only have anecdotal evidence though.

    ... as seen on TV ...
    
                      ... as used by the ...
                                              (extra credit iffen you kin guess)
    
                                         ... Wafflen BATF!!!

    oh ya, 93 grilled cheese sandwiches are great for you if you want
    arteries like cannolis :-)

    
    And we do, we do indeed.
    
    
    
    Rob
    

    
    
    deb, i'll be ovah for dinnah....:>
    

    
    All right, all right!  So I only had one and a half, not 93.
    
    A little exaggeration never hurt anyone.
    
    

    
    Don, you lost count, it had to be at least a zillion....
    

    Iz there a clueless echo in here??
    

	in 1985, I met my husband.

    in 1986, I married my wife.

    Admiral Perry (sp) day here in N.J. I guess that it is either his
    birthday or the day he died.

    
    	RE: Karen
    
    	Wow ... strange that you hadn't even met the guy and he was
    	already your husband.  He wasn't a mail-order husband, by any
    	chance, was he?
    
    	RE: Doc
    
    	Second time around?  Renewed your vows?
    

    5 years ago today, I claimed to be a jelly donut.
    
    Hind sight being 20/20, I now see the error of my claim.

	I wrote it that way to give the anal-retentive boxers something
	to say.

    And it didn't take him long to pick up on it.

    
    	I figured I'd jump in before all those anal-retentive 'BOXers
    	caught it.
    

	Ya beat me to it

    
    > 5 years ago today, I claimed to be a jelly donut.
    > 
    > Hind sight being 20/20, I now see the error of my claim.
    
    And that was?
    

    I figured I'd jump in before all those anal-retentive 'BOXers caught it.
                                           ^
    					 other

    >> 5 years ago today, I claimed to be a jelly donut.
    >> 
    >> Hind sight being 20/20, I now see the error of my claim.
    >
    >And that was?
    
    
    	He's actually a cream-filled cruller.
    
    
    	And Doc, if I don't intentionally feed you those opportunities
    	you'll never have any fun in here.
    

    I moved from Taxa2setts to Arizona and became engaged to my beautiful
    wife.

    
    So is it or is it not your beautiful house?
    
    -b

    
    On this date in 1994 I began working as a temporary in the EHS
    department here at MSO2.
    
    It appears that my time temping here is almost up - you're only
    supposed to stay for a year.
    
    

    Boo, hiss! Hopefully this'll turn permanent, though.

    So is it or is it not your beautiful house?

    
    <--- yes.
    
    -b

    
    
    1899 First recorded auto death in the USA.
    Herny Bliss, New York City, NY.

    
    Any idea who his family sued???
    

    
    Bliss eh?
    
    -b

 Wasn't wearing seatbelts I bet.



 Jim

>>    1899 First recorded auto death in the USA.
>>    Herny Bliss, New York City, NY.

	if his name was really Herny, it might have been
	a suicide.

    
    	I knew the guy's name was Bliss because my neighbor, whose name
    	is also Bliss, shared that little trivial tidbit with me years
    	ago.  But I keep forgetting what year it happened.
    

>>  	is also Bliss, shared that little trivial tidbit with me years
>>    	ago.  But I keep forgetting what year it happened.

    well, let's see - how old were you?
    

 re .236


 Ignorance is bliss, eh? :-)

    
    	Alright, I keep getting nailed on that usage of "I forget when".
    
    	Care to enlighten me as to the correct use of that thought?  If
    	I throw "allegedly" before "happened", will that work?
    

    
    I was under the impression that the first traffic fatality was
    someone who was _hit_ by a car. If that is the case, it happened
    in Grafton Massachusetts, near the center of town. I don't
    know the victim's name.

    -b

    
    	RE: .236
    
    	If so, my whole family has been bordering on ignorance for 20+
    	years now.
    
    	8^)
    

    
    
    >>>if his name was really Herny
    
      oops, it's Henry. Damned dyslexia!!!  ;-)
    
    
    -mike
    

    
    	That's not a traffic fatality, Brian ... it's a stupid pedestrian
    	fatality.
    
    	But I can see how it would play out:
    
    	"Look out ... a car!!"
    
    	"A car?  What the hell is a car????"
    
    	BAMM!!
    

   .239  er...um... i think you misunderstood me.  you said someone
	 told you years ago.  then you said you couldn't remember
	 when it happened.  i was making a leetle joke - like, you
	 know, you couldn't remember when you were told.  see?  hoho.

    

    
    	RE: Lady Di
    
    	I keyed in on the "how old were you" and figured you meant "you
    	weren't even born yet, so how could you remember?".
    
    	OK, now I see what you meant.  But I guess it's a little too
    	late to laugh.
    

  .245  ah!
	and yes.

    re .243
    
    That was quite funny ! :*) 

    RE: .240  In Mass. ?  Why doesn't this surprise me....

    
    
    otdih:  1992, i became a member of digital's law department...
    
    

    On this day in history, according to the Clinton Countdown Calendar:
    
    9/14/92:	Discussing his controversial answers regarding Vietnam,
    		candidate Clinton stated "I think I could have handled
    		it better but I haven't ever tried to mislead anybody.
    		There were a lot of things that were asked that I honestly
    		was dumbfounded at the way I was being treated."
    

>       <<< Note 102.250 by DECWIN::RALTO "Stay in bed, float upstream" >>>
>                 -< Bonus points:  Parse the last "sentence" >-

>    		There were a lot of things that were asked that I honestly
>    		was dumbfounded at the way I was being treated."


He found out he was dumb, but was being treated.    

    
    
     Frodo and Bilbo's birthdays
    
    

    Good one, .251 :-)
    
    Chris

>        <<< Note 102.252 by STAR::MWOLINSKI "uCoder sans Frontieres" >>>
>                        -< for the j.r.r. tolkien fans >-
>
>    
>    
>     Frodo and Bilbo's birthdays


Mine Too 9/14/62

--Geoff    
    

    
    Happy belated birthday, Geoff.
    
    

 My mother's mother was born 100 years ago today.  She died about 13 years
 ago.  As a boy I loved her fried chicken, dumplings, and biscuits and
 gravy and the more pleasant memories of my youth are those of eating a 
 big sunday dinner in her kitchen on a hot day.



 Can't wait to see her in heaven.



 Jim

    
    
      1830 First locomotive railroad between Liverpool and Manchester,
    England.

    
    Sounds like my grandmother, Jim.
    
    That'll be a nice reunion 8^).

    
    	RE: Deb
    
    	Jim is a very strange name for a grandmother, don't you think?
    

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    	Ooh, ambidextrous, eh?
    
    	I like that in a woman.
    

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    You closed your umbrella too soon 8^).
    
    

    
    
    
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    Oh CRAP!

 So, Deb and I had the same grandmother?

    
    You know, I thought about that for a moment.
    

    
    i saw what you had originally written glen...
    
    
    

    
    
     Happy Birthday Geoff,,, Hope you had a GRATE one!!
    
    
    Dave

Thanks for all the good wishes.  It was definitely a good bday.  So good in 
fact that I think I'll plan on having another one sometime next year:-)

--Geoff

    5 years ago today "The City of     ATLANTA" was chosoen to host the
    1996 Summer Olympics.
    
    Dan  

    Gee, you would never know it from living here...
    
    (inside joke)

    
    
    1923 First talking cartoon, Steamboat Willie 

	You mean it wasn't itchy and scratchy?

    It was very scratchy when I saw it.  You think they'd have it
    remastered.

    
    
    1980 Gdansk, Poland   Solidarity formed.
    
    1776 Nathan Hale hanged
    
    1692 seven "witches" hanged in Salem, Ma.
    

    In 1943, an American torpedo was mistakenly fired at the US battleship
    Iowa, which was carrying President Roosevelt and his joint chiefs to
    the Tehran conference; the torpedo exploded harmlessly in the Iowa's
    wake.
    

    If it had hit the ship at 90 degrees, it probably would not have done
    off. The 'junk' torpedos we made at the beginning of the war was quite
    a scandal. Many a submariner was rewarded for the perfect shot by
    hearing a metalic bang against the hull of the intended target...
    
    
    Steve

    
    
     In 1975, after nearly four decades of absolute rule, Spain's Gen.
    Francisco Franco died, two weeks before his 83rd birthday.
    

    ahh yes, one of Hitler's allies. what a loss!

    1963 - The USAF put their first two F-4C Phantom fighters into service.
    
    It was an amazing aircraft and it is amazing just how far we've come
    since then.
    
    Bob

    
    
    They got to "C" before the ASAF used them???
    
    
    
    "A" and "B" musta went to the Navy....

    Is Generalissimo Francisco Franco still dead?
    

    yes, i understand he is still clinging to death.

    
    
    re -1
    
    instead of dictating, he's de-composing.
    
    Chris
    :0

    -1 i think you have him confused with Arthur Feidler (sp?)

    
    
    Happy Pearl Harbor Day....
    

    
      A Day That Will Live In Infamy
    
      bb

    "dastardly..."

    In Japan, December 7 is just another day.  In 1941, it was the day
    before the attack on Pearl Harbor.

    
    So.. will we be hearing a lot of "Banzai" talk tomorrow???
    

    Ban Zygotes!

    
    .296>    So.. will we be hearing a lot of "Banzai" talk tomorrow???
    
    No because today is tommorow already overthere.

8th December - 15 years since the murder of John Lennon.

    "I'm afraid we have unleashed a sleeping giant".
    

    RE: .300  Karen
    
    / "I'm afraid we have unleashed a sleeping giant".
    
    "...and filled him with a terrible resolve."

>                            -< [Not exact quote.] >-
>    RE: .300  Karen
>    / "I'm afraid we have unleashed a sleeping giant".
>    "...and filled him with a terrible resolve."

    I know that Admiral Yomoto went to school in the US (UCSD?), but was
    the quote really in English?

    -- Dave

    Dave,
    
    I dunno, I wasn't present when he said it :-)
    
    

    Maybe he just said "Ooops!"

    
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    This Sunday December 10th 1941, Japan suffered it's 1st defeat of WW2 when
    the invasion of Wake Island was repulsed. The Marines there
    successfully defended their (our) island with their antique airplanes
    and weapons. 
    
    The Japanese came back on Dec 25 (If I remember the date correctly) and
    overwhelmed the defenders. Admiral Fletcher who was commanding the
    carrier task force sent to help/protect 'could not get there in time'.
    He did not last much longer as a commander.
    
    The survivors were treated very badly and as I recall, few survived.
    
    The carrier USS Enterprise (the original) had just
    delivered planes to Wake and was almost caught at Pearl on the way
    home. Everyone was disappointed that they would not make Pearl for Sat
    night because Halsey slowed down due to a storm that was tossing the
    Destroyers around (low on fuel) and making a lot of people ill.
    
    Steve

    
    	There are [or would be] 3 birthdays and a death day on this
    	date:
    
    	John Lennon died.
    	Sammy Davis Jr. born
    	Jim Morrison born?
    
    	and 1 other.
    

    Sam Kinison (sp?) would have been 42.

    Mary, Queen of Sctos was born on this day.

    "I think she's dead."
    
    "No, I'm not."

    
    "Yooooo ahrrrr Mahrrry, Queen of Scots?"
    

I think Harry Chapin died sometime around this date (1981?)

    
    Harry Chapin died during the summer.  I know, cuz I had tickets to his
    concert the next night at the Garden State Arts Center.
    
    

    Harry Chapin tickets:
    
    Me too! Though my tickets were for in Boston as I recall. Mine were for
    about a week after he died.
    
    Steve

    I believe his last concert was at the Chateau DeVille.  I know because
    I lived in Framingham at the time.
    
    He came into the world in the usual way but sadly his death was tragic.
    
    -Jack

 I thought Harry Chapin was overrated

    
    Harry Chapin always thought The Muppets were overrated.
    
    ;^)
    

>> I thought Harry Chapin was overrated

	i thought so too.  there - i've said it.  you don't know
	what a liberating experience that was.  and neither do i.

 Z    i thought so too.  there - i've said it.  you don't know
 Z    what a liberating experience that was.  and neither do i.
    
    Yes...kind of like when I got that Rollig Stones thing off my chest. 
    Sounding like a bunch of raspy drunks and all!

>	i thought so too.  there - i've said it.  you don't know
>	what a liberating experience that was.  and neither do i.


  I know I felt much better after sharing it.  



 Jim

    
    My only regret is that Harry Chapin didn't carpool with
    Don McLean.
    
    -b

    leave that one hit wonder alone. at least he does work for nice causes.

    
    Long time G&S enthusiast Isaac Asimov was born 76 years ago today in
    Petrovichi, USSR.
    
    He passed away on April 6, 1992 in NYC.
       
    

I believe that today is the 75th anniversary of the sale of Babe Ruth from the
Boston Red Sox to the New York Yankees.  

Jim

And I thought slavery was banned in 1865.  Live and learn...

    Roger Challenger... go with throttle up.

Diane Vaughan, sociologist, argues that the fatally flawed decision to 
launch the shuttle did not result from negligence or wrongdoing, but 
from a tendency by engineers and managers to follow the accepted rules
of procedure too blindly.  She said such organizational behavior - which
shaped the late-night decision to recommend launch despite concerns 
about cold weather - could easily recur.
					     (Newsday/The Daily Yomiuri)

    somehow i doubt that particular mistake will occur again.
    
    not labeling it negligence or wrongdoing is simply psycho-jargon.

    The engineers said "don't do it." The managers said "Go- we've got a
    schedule to meet."

    
    
    	I can't believe it's been 10 years already.  I remember
    	that day as if it were yesterday.
    

    .326
    
    > Diane Vaughan...
    
    ...is full of crap.  I heard an NPR interview with a carefully
    unidentified Thiokol engineer, made immediately after the event and
    rebroadcast this weekend.  During a conference phone call to determine
    whether to launch on schedule, Thiokol's engineers were strongly
    opposed - they KNEW it was a bad idea.  Thiokol management were
    waffling.  The NASA person said, "Good God, Thiokol, when do you want
    us to launch?  Next April?"  Thiokol put NASA on hold and did some
    internal arguing.  Finally, management said we have a schedule to meet. 
    They opened the line and said they'd approve the launch.  NASA said
    "Sign the document and send it to us by telefax [sic] immediately." 
    The engineer who was interviewed said he'd not been able to sleep the
    night before the launch and that he'd been praying when Challenger went
    up.  At the one-minute mark, the Thiokol engineering staff breathed a
    collective sigh of reliefe, believing they'd beaten the odds.  13
    seconds later, the prayers of the engineer who was interview changed
    from a prayer of hope to a prayer of agony and loss and guilt for not
    having fought harder.
    
    Thiokol management were concerned about the schedule because they were
    in the running for more NASA contracts.
    
    The launch was the result of an inexcusable failure to consider the
    human factors as more important than technology and money.

| <<< Note 102.329 by DECWIN::JUDY "That's *Ms. Bitch* to you!" >>>



| I can't believe it's been 10 years already. I remember that day as if it were 
| yesterday.

	In a way....it was. 10 years ago...yesterday. :-)

	I know what you mean. I remember where I was, and what I was doing,
when it happened. I can't even remember � the stuff I did yesterday, but that
remains clear in my mind. 


Glen

I don't want to see it happen again.

Ellison Onizuka, who was one of the astronauts, was Nikkei-Sansei
(3rd generation).  He visited a small town in Japan to see his root 
with his family in 1983, where his grandparents came from.   His wife,
Rona, is going to give a speech on "Dream and Hope" there on 18th next 
month.

(I may have their names spell wrong. Apologies if I did.)

    
    One hundred years ago today Puccini's La Boheme
    was performed for the very first time at the
    Teatro Regio in Turin, Italy.
    

>                               -< Lovely music >-

	that's putting it mildly. ;>

>    One hundred years ago today Puccini's La Boheme
>    was performed for the very first time at the
>    Teatro Regio in Turin, Italy.

And it has been shrouded in mystery ever since...

    .335
    
    What a divine pun!

    
    Quando men vo soletta per la via, 
    la gente sosta e mira 
    e la bellezza mia tutta ricerca in me 
    da capo a pie'... 
    

Happy Birthday, Abie, baby.
Happy Birthday to you.

    
    	Abie who?
    
    	Abie Normal?
    

    You TOOK AN ABNORMAL BRAIN!!!!!!!! (Choking Marty Feldman)

    
    "Quick!  Give him the - "
    
    

| <<< Note 102.341 by POWDML::HANGGELI "Little Chamber of Tear-Off Bottoms" >>>


| "Quick!  Give him the - "

	Cavity search!

    
    re: .341
    
    >"Quick!  Give him the - "
    
    
    Sedagive???????

    
    Today is (or would have been) the birthday of Ana�s Nin, Erma Bombeck, 
    Rue McClanahan, Tyne Daly, Nina Simone, and Barbara Jordan.
    
                                                   
    

    The longest street in the world is 200 hundred years old now.

    
    Not 200 hundred years Yonge?
    

    8^)

>    The longest street in the world is 200 hundred years old now.

20,000 years old?  Wouldn't it be the oldest street in the world as well?

    oops.

    
    
    Fats Domino is 68 today....
    

 Thud.

    
    	Wow, I feel old, too.
    
    	In 9 years I'll be 1/2 as old as he is.
    

    
    Chelsea Clinton is 16 today.
    

A big day at Gonzaga, then.

Catholic Prep School in Arlington that Chelsea attends, if I'm not mistaken.

Big rival of my Episcopal Prep School in Alexandria (St. Stephen's).

/john

    
    Gonzaga H.S. is one of the three high schools I attended back in the
    Ice Age. It's on I Street, NW. (Pat Buchanan and Bill Bennett also
    went there, back in the pre-Ice Age.) It's a Jesuit school.
    
    I thought Chelsea went to Sidwell Friends -- a Quaker school or
    facsimile, on or near Wisconsin Ave., NW.
    

Hmmm.  You may be right, that she goes to Sidwell Friends.  Another one of
our big rivals.  But since ninth grade was my last year there before my
father was transferred overseas, my memory is faulty as to exactly where
they all were.  Maybe the big rival in Arlington was Bishop Ireton.

/john

    On or about this day 51 years ago. the US Army entered a German town on
    the west side of the Rhine river. Unbelivevably the Ludendorf RR bridge
    had not been destroyed. The Germans blew up the the approach so that US
    tanks could not cross. They then attempted to destroy the bridge. The
    wires had been cut during the fighting. A secondary lit fuse charge was used
    and caused some damage, but the bridge still stood. US troops rushed
    across the bridge and siezed the other side. The Germans frantically
    tried to destory the bridge with artillery, aircraft bombing and even
    V2 rockets. The Americans worked frantically to fill in the gap at the
    west end of the bridge and started sending tanks across along with
    additional troops.
    
    The Combat Engineers imediately started construction on a treadway
    pontoon bridge down stream. The crossed the river (1075 ft) in 30 hours
    while under fire taking many casulaties.
    
    The Ludendorf bridge collapsed 10 days after its capture killing
    additional Engineers. Taking the bridge shortened the war considerably.
    
    As a point of reference: In Bosnia the US Army recently crossed a 2000
    ft river while NOT under fire in 27 DAYS!
    
    Steve

    
    Today is the 100th anniversary of Gilbert & Sullivan's _THE GRAND
    DUKE, or The Statutory Duel_, which was first performed on March 7, 1896, 
    at the Savoy Theatre, London.
    
    
    

I'm glad I won't be seeing Fred today.

re .359:

Interesting.  Interesting that the Germans couldn't destroy the bridge with
dynamite, artillery and rockets but it collapses all by itself 10 days
later?  Or was this a case of a pro-German saboteur destroying the bridge
(slamming the barn door shut after the horse was long gone...)

    .363
    
    The damage weakened it.  The load of all the Allied equipment bore on
    that weakness until the tortured metal finally let go.

>    that weakness until the tortured metal finally let go.

Yeah, but what about that "responsibility to society"?

    i believe the bridge was eventually imprisoned then scrapped.

    Kinda funny in that there is no bridge there now. They never rebuilt
    it. Consider that there was a tunnel on the east side to get the trains
    through the Erperler (sp) lay (big hill). You would think that
    rebuilding a bridge on that site with the bridge piers and the tunnel
    would have been easier that some place else. Maybe it held bad memories
    for the Germans...
    
    In the A&E documentary on the taking of the bridge, they listed the
    damage done by the failed demolishion attempt by the Germans, the
    constant shelling and aerial bombing by the Germans, the vibrations set
    up by the multitude of US anit-aircraft weapons located adjacent to the
    bridge and the weight of 40 tons of lumber added to plank over the
    holes and tracks to make it into a road bridge.
    
    If you ever get to see the A&E documentary on it "Damned Engineers at
    Remagen" it is quite worth the watching.
    
    Steve

    
    It's my sister's birthday.
    

    
    	Is she more ancient, or less ancient, than you are?
    

    
    Hard to believe anyone could be, but she's more ancient.
    
    

    Did she get my prezzie yet?

    
    Not as of yesterday.  I'll call her later on.
    

    
    >Not as of yesterday.  I'll call her later on.
    
    You mean your Visa Card didn't bite the dust like your ATM card???
    
    
    :)
    

	Deb, what did you get her? At least you can blame it on the weather. :-)

Forgot to enter this yesterday, which was the 28th anniversary of LBJ's 
famous (not to mention welcomed) "I will not seek, nor will I accept, 
the nomination of the Democratic party for the office of the presidency 
in the November elections" announcement.

    good heavens, 28 years ago...hard to believe.

    2 years ago today - Kurt Cobains body was found in Seattle - bullet
    hole through the head.

    
    	2 years ago already?  Wow.
    
    	It blew me away to be reminded that the Bernhard Goetz ordeal
    	happened almost 10 years ago.
    

    
    	Robin Wright turns 30 today.
    

    who's robin wright?

    The Princess Bride
    Kelly Capwell on "Santa Barbara"
    Jenny - Forrest Gump
    
    also - Sean Penn's main squeeze and mother of his 2 children

    
    	Yeah, what she said.
    
    	And:
    
    	Patricia Arquette - 28
    	Julian Lennon - 33
    	John Schneider [Bo Duke] - 42
    	Stuart Pankin - 50
    

131 years ago today Lee surrendered at Appomattox.

163 years ago today the first public (tax-supported) library was established
in Peterboro, NH.

Hugh Hefner is 70, Tom Lehrer is 68, Michael Learned is 57, Dennis Quaid is
42, and Keisha Knight Pulliam is 17.

    
    re: .377
    
    >bullet hole through the head.
    
    
    Chris,
    
     I do believe the young man ate a shot-gun. If he did, there probably
    would be little left of his head.
    

>163 years ago today the first public (tax-supported) library was established
>in Peterboro, NH.


  Have they ever fixed the sign that greets folks as they enter town..
  "A good town to live in"?



Jim

    
                                  April 9
    
                               Movie History

     On 9 April, the following people were born;

   * Keshia Knight Pulliam 1979
   * Marc Fishman 1969
   * Cynthia Nixon 1966
   * Paulina Porizkova 1965
   * Dennis Quaid 1954
   * Brandon De Wilde 1942
   * Michael Learned 1939
   * Avery Schreiber 1935
   * Jean-Paul Belmondo 1933
   * Gian Maria Volonte 1933
   * Carl Perkins 1932
   * Hugh Hefner 1926
   * Frankie Thomas 1921
   * William Raynor 1920
   * Albert Remy 1911
   * Sharon Lynn 1910
   * Robert Helpmann 1909
   * Lyle Latell 1904
   * Ward Bond 1903
   * Allen Jenkins 1900
   * Paul Robeson 1898
   * Michel Simon 1895
   * Efrem Zimbalist Sr. 1889
   * Thomas Meighan 1879
                          ----------------------------

     On 9 April, the following people died;

   * Ruth Hammond 1992
   * Kathleen Burke 1980
   * Staats Cotsworth 1979
                   ------------------------------------------

     On 9 April, the following movies were released (+ where released);

   * Spoils of War (1994) (TV) USA 1994
   * Nur der Sieg zaehlt (1994) (TV) Germany 1995
   * Alles Luege (1992) Germany 1992
   * Cosima's Lexikon (1992) Germany 1992
   * Lugar en el Mundo, Un (1992) Argentina 1992
   * Beethoven (1992) Germany 1992
   * Abenteuer von Pico und Columbus, Die (1992) Germany 1992
   * Delicatessen (1991) Germany 1992
   * Another Pair of Aces: Three of a Kind (1991) (TV) USA 1991
   * Perry Mason: The Case of the Musical Murder (1989) (TV) USA 1989
   * Parent Trap III (1989) (TV) USA 1989
   * Bridge to Silence (1989) (TV) USA 1989
   * Schweigen des Dichters, Das (1987) Germany 1987
   * Les Patterson Saves the World (1987) USA 1987
   * Les Patterson Saves the World (1987) Australia 1987
   * 37.2 le Matin (1986) France 1986
   * Peur sur la Ville (1975) France 1975
   * Perdido por Cem... (1972) Portugal 1973
   * Loved One, The (1965) Germany 1966
   * Conqueror, The (1956) UK 1956
   * Monsoon (1953) Germany 1954
   * Gunslingers (1950) USA 1950
   * Senor Droopy (1949) USA 1949
   * Rebel Rabbit (1949) USA 1949
   * Elephant Boy (1937) UK 1937
   * Scandal (1916) USA 1916
   * Race, The (1916) USA 1916
   * Eternal Grind, The (1916) USA 1916
   * Sold for Marriage (1916) USA 1916
   * Salvation Joan (1916) USA 1916

    Who is Keshia Knight Pulliam?  I've heard of her before...

    
    	RE: .385/.386
    
    	I'm surprised either of you would even notice an error in that
    	sign.  8^)
    
    	RE: .388
    
    	Keshia was Cosby's youngest daughter on "The Cosby Show".
    

    
    ...also known as rudy huxtable.
    
    she was also in that 'matchgirl' movie.
    
    i can't believe she is 17 already...i am suddenly feeling old...
    
    

    
    
    	17??!!
    
    
    	THUD
    

    Please tell me she's just very short for her age.....
    
    17?
    

    
    	Remember Gary Coleman?  He was about 14 and only a little over
    	3' tall or something like that.
    

84 years ago, the Titanic sank in the North Atlantic off Newfoundland.

131 years ago, Abraham Lincoln died.

    >>	Remember Gary Coleman?  He was about 14 and only a little over
    >>	3' tall or something like that.
    
    Ten years ago, a colleague in a nearby office had a TV Guide cover
    featuring a photo of Gary Coleman taped to the outside of his office
    wall.  Beneath it he'd attached a note stating:  ACTUAL SIZE
    
    Oh well, I guess you hadda be there.
    
    Chris

    
    	Heh heh.  8^)
    
    	I used to have a small picture of "Webster" [real name ... ummm,
    	hmmm, it's been so long since I've seen the twerp that I forgot
    	his name] right in the middle of my dartboard.  I got really
    	good at hitting it, too.
    

    The actor that played Webster was Emmanuel Lewis(sp). He's a black belt
    in some form of martial arts. I was reading a "where are they now"
    article in a doctor's office when I broke my hand last year.
    
    
    hth
    
    lunchbox

How did you break your hand reading a magazine?

  .398  aagagag.

400 snarfs!

    Far too many innocent folks were killed by a bomb allegedly planted by
    their own countrymen.  

    
    Today is Ella Fitzgerald's 78th birthday.
    
    

    happy birthday, ella.  i love her cole porter collection
    of tunes.

    
    	I thought she was great in "The Blues Brothers".
    

    Was she in the Blues Brothers?  I thought that was ummmm.....
    
    "YOU MAKE ME FEEL LIKE A NATURAL WOMAN......"
    
    That person!

    
>    That person!

	oh lordy. ;>

    most men don't like "that person" cuz she doesn't
    sing "oh honey, i'll just die without you" kinda
    tunes.

    
    	Yes, it was Aretha Franklin, Jack.
    
    	That sexist jerk of a 60's/70's pop singer.
    

  .407  ;>  that, and there's that bit about asking 'em to think. 

    no.  her songs were in response to sexist jerks. /hth

    .409  oh, yes indeed.

 I'm a day late with this one..

 
 Willie Mays turned 65 yesterday (5/6)..sheesh, that makes me feel old.





 Jim who feels priveleged to have been able to see him play many times.

    48 years ago today, my dad was born.
                      
    

    RE .413
    
    Do you feel young?
    
    
    
    
    48 years ago last Monday, I was born...
    
    Steve

 46 years ago next July 15 I was born

    46 years ago March 18, 2017, I was born.

    Why aren't you up here in training...you're supposed to be here!

    
    	Jack appears to be a little slow today.
    

    Too many proposals due this week.  Believe me, I'd rather be there!!
    
    So, how's the weather? 

>    Too many proposals due this week.

From those boys your father wanted to go home?

    Johnny Unitas is 63 years old today...the greatest QB in NFL History!

    .420 That's funny, I don't remember mentioning my father anywhere. 8)  
    
    Proposals due to CUSTOMERS, you know those things that pay your salary?

    Gerald, customers pay your salary?

    Sorry Mr. Waffle man, Dan Marino is the greatest.
    
    
    Mike
    

    .423
    
    Glenn, customers pay ALL of our salaries.

    Well then, we must be getting lots more, based on the rash of VP
    appointments.

    Steve Grogan was a bumb!

    Mike:
    
    How many World Champuionships does Maariono have?  Unitas has 3.

    You can't go by championships alone.  I wonder how good todays prolific
    passers would have been under the rules when Unitas was great.
    
    Dennis

...my dad was born 70 years ago.

    Ok, the greatest without a ring.  It's hard to compare past and
    present.  Marino will probably own most, if not all records by 
    the time he's done playing.  
    
    
    Mike
    

    The greatest of Johhny Unitas is measured in that he brought the NFL to
    the world of TV with those first two championships in '58 and '59 over
    the Giants, especially the only Sudden death championship game in
    history.  All other qb's since credit his two minute drill to tie the
    game as an original blueprint for other qb's to follow.
    
    Dan Marino is a great qb in his own right and era.  With a better
    balanced offense and a half way decent defense, there's no telling how
    many rings he'd be wearing today. 

    first line should read "The GreatNEss..."
    
    
    sorry

    With a more balanced offense he prolly wouldn't put up
    those kind of numbers. B^)
    
    
    Mike

    With a more balanced offense he would probably never throw an
    incompletion.
    
    Dennis

    That's going a little far... Even if he were perfect, which he's not,
    never throwing an incompletion would require all of his receivers to be
    perfect also.

    This Unitas dude and that Marino guy, ball players, right?  

    
    	Marino's an actor.
    
    	I know because I saw him in "Ace Ventura: Pet Detective".
    

    
    re: .437
    
    >This Unitas dude and that Marino guy, ball players, right?
    
    This guy can't see the turnips for the leaves!!!
    
    
    
     :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
    

    
    Today is Sir Arthur S. Sullivan's 154th birthday.
    

    Drinks olive oil does he?

How old is Popeye?

 80 years ago today my Dad was born.  He died about 14 years ago, but I 
 still miss him today.  He wasn't a great man, but a good man who loved and
 cared for his family, sacrificing much to see that we had what we needed.
 I can count on one hand (3 fingers) the number of times I heard him swear.
 
I recall one day, not long after I'd moved out of the house at the age
 of 21, stopping by the house to have lunch with my mother.  I was surprised
 to find my Dad home, as he rarely stayed home ill from work.  When I
 saw him on the patio, he had tears in his eyes.  I asked what was wrong and
 he said he had been told that "he was no longer needed" at his job..a company
 he had worked for for 30+ years, starting as a dishwasher and becoming a
 senior VP.  But the company changed hands, brought in some young blood who
 didn't need the old guys around.  He began to die on that day, though he
 lasted another 10 years or so.  


 Jim

    
    re .443
    
    Sounds like a great man to me!
    
    ej

    
    Jim,
    
    	To me, reading your note, he sounds like he was a great man.
    
    	Powerful note you've written.
    
    							Take care.
    
    								Hank

    re: .443
    
    Truely great men aren't always the famous ones. Sounds like
    a great man to me.  A very nice note you wrote there.
    

	Jim, that was very moving! Thanks for sharing it.

A couple of notables:

In 1868, Florida, Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia, North Carolina and South
Carolina were re-admitted to the Union. Strom Thurmond was immediately
elected to the Senate.

And who could forget,  In 1876, Lt. Col. George A. Custer and his Seventh
Cavalry were wiped out by Sioux and Cheyenne Indians in the Battle of
Little Big Horn in Montana.

TTom

>And who could forget,  In 1876, Lt. Col. George A. Custer and his Seventh
>Cavalry were wiped out by Sioux and Cheyenne Indians in the Battle of
>Little Big Horn in Montana.



 Preceded of course by the pre-battle group photo showing Custer and his
 boys holding up the "We're number one" signs..(thanks Far Side).




 Jim

    .449
    
    And I've always been perplexed at how young Dustin Hoffman still looks
    today. :-)

    
    12 years ago, my oldest sister entered the world.
    
    

    ?!!

	raq... she was born in a time machine, right? 

She said "oldest", not "older", dingbats.

Arrrrrchie.... be nice.....

    
    thank you, john.  some how, i just knew someone would comment on the 
    'oldest sister' thing...which is why i put it in there... :>
    
    
    
    

On this day...

       In 1969, patrons at the Stonewall Inn, a gay bar in New York's
       Greenwich Village, clashed with police in an incident considered
       the birth of the homosexual rights movement.

On this day, some kinda exacta:

     * In 1914, Austrian Archduke Francis Ferdinand and his wife, Sofia,
       were assassinated in Sarajevo by a Serb nationalist. The event
       triggered World War I.

     * In 1919, the Treaty of Versailles was signed in France, ending
       World War I.

     * In 1919, Harry S. Truman married Elizabeth Virginia Wallace in
       Independence, Missouri.

TTom

    6/23/92	While on "Good Morning America", candidate Clinton
    		promises that his first hundred days "will be the most
    		productive period in modern history".
    

    
    on this day, in 1995, wolfman jack died. 
    on this day, in 1991, michael landon died.
    
    

    
    	You're just full of good news today, aren't you, Raq?
    
    	8^)
    

OK, folx, what the connection between Michael Landon and Wolfman Jack?

    
    well, ok...
    
    on this day in 1967, pamela (anderson) lee was born
    ""  ""   "" "" 1952, dan akryod was born
    ""  ""   "" "" 1948, karen black was born
    ""	""   "" "" 1945, debbie (blondie) harry was born
    ""	""   "" "" 1936, jamie farr was born
    so were a bunch of other famous people, but i don't want to type them
    all in...
    
    better, shawn????
    

    
    	Much better, Raq ... thanks!!  8^)
    

    on this day in 1982 my son was born.  14 today and a good kid he is!
    :-)
    
    don

    
    	Pamela Lee is only 29 today??
    
    	Oh, to be able to give her 29 spankings!!
    

> OK, folx, what the connection between Michael Landon and Wolfman Jack?
    
    "I Was a Teenage Werewolf", perhaps?...
    
    Chris

    Maybe Glen is out this week???

Chris wins the prize, a genuine hair from Michael Landon's werewolf costume,
complete with Certificate of Authenticity.

I got a mail message that glen was out of the office until 7/8.

Jim

TTWA: 

   Who's Karen Black? where should I know her from?

   (Just curious about folks sharing my birth year.)

    
    	Wow, I didn't know you were that old.
    
    	8^)
    
    	I know she was in 1 of the "Airport" disaster movies.  And I
    	also know you have WWW access and could look at
    
    	http://us.imdb.com
    
    	if you really wanted to.  8^)
    

    Jack:
    
    I didn't know anybody except for Old Man Christmas who shared your
    birth year :-)

   >Who's Karen Black? where should I know her from?
    
     She was in Trilogy of Terror.

    Ernest Hemingway ate a 12 gauge. It disagreed with him.

    
    
    wow. I never realised how much Ernest Hemingway and Kurt Cobain had in
    common. ;*)

    
    speaking of hemingway, his eldest granddaughter, margeaux (sp) was
    found dead in her apartment.  she hadn't been seen since friday, and
    she had been dead for a few days.
    
    now, what has she been in??  i (think) i know who muriel is...but i
    can't figure out who margeaux is...
    
    

    
    Margaux Hemingway was in the movie "Lipstick" in the mid 70's.  She was a 
    model for Faberge.
    

    
    	Lipstick
    

 Wasn't she also in "Manhattan", the Woody Allen film?

    
    I believe that was her sister, Mariel.
    

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    hmmmmm...the only movie i even saw bits of was 'they call me bruce?'...
    and that was just way too long ago.  
    
    i have no idea who she is..
    
    

    
    Looks like Mariel, only prettier.
    
    Well, not any more, I guess 8^/.
    

There's a picture of Mariel at http://205.243.68.14/images/Mariel.jpg

I haven't found one of Margaux yet.

/john

 OTDIH 20 years ago my son Chris was born.




 Jim

     >Who's Karen Black? where should I know her from?  
    
    If you are old enough to remember, she was the prostitute in "Easy
    Rider". Geesh I'm old!!  :)

That was that Peter Fonda flick, wasn't it?

I didn't see it.

BZZZT!

Five easy pieces with Nicholson.

    "Easy Rider" was Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper. Great cult film of its
    time.
    
    Re: "Five Easy Pieces", I remember Nicholson and Black in the restaurant
    when Nicholson goes nuts because the waitress won't make a
    substitution. Great scene.

something about not getting the sandwich order right and ending up
suggesting the waitress take the tuna on whole wheat (or whatever) and
put it some special place.

I've seen Karen Black in some pretty bad grade B movies, quite a drop
of...

He asks for whole wheat toast.  The waitress won't give it to him, so he tells
her to get him some sort of sandwich on toasted whole wheat and do something
not nice with the filling.

  chicken

  hold it between your kneeeees.

Never saw that one, either.

I don't get out much, really.

    >Re: "Five Easy Pieces", I remember Nicholson and Black in the restaurant
    >when Nicholson goes nuts because the waitress won't make a
    >substitution. Great scene.
    
     I thought that scene had been in The Shining. I'm probably just
    confusing things.

>     I thought that scene had been in The Shining. I'm probably just
>    confusing things.

	Indeed.  A little too creative (or something) for King.

	Today is Unity Day in Zambia

    
    otdih:  1991, i became a deccie.
    
    

     In 1965, President Johnson signed into law the Medicare bill, which
   went into effect the following year.

     In 1975, former Teamsters union president Jimmy Hoffa disappeared in
   suburban Detroit. Although presumed dead, his remains have never been
   found.

    .502
    
    > Although presumed dead, his remains have never been
    > found.
    
    One would certainly expect Hoffa's remains to be dead, yessir, one
    would indeed.

    I thought they found Jimmy Hoffa underneath all of Tammy Faye's
    make-up!

no, he's now a pillar of his community.

Which pillar and which community is still uncertain.

     In 1986, President Reagan, citing executive privilege, refused to
   allow senators to see Justice Department memos written between 1969 to
   1971 by William H. Rehnquist, who was facing confirmation hearings to
   become chief justice of the United States.

     In 1934, Germany's President Paul von Hindenburg died at age 87,
   opening way for Adolf Hitler to become dictator.

     In 1939, scientist Albert Einstein said in a letter to U.S.
   President Franklin D. Roosevelt that U.S. should start an atomic
   research program.

     In 1990, Iraqi tanks and infantry overran Kuwait in a predawn strike
   after a dispute over oil and frontier

   In 1861, the federal government levied an income tax for the first
   time.

   In 1954, 24 boxers became the first inductees into the Boxing Hall of
   Fame, including Henry Armstrong, Gentleman Jim Corbett, Jack Dempsey,
   Jack Johnson, Joe Louis and John L. Sullivan.

     In 1976, scientists in Pasadena, California, announced that the
   "Viking One" spacecraft had found the strongest indications to date of
   possible life on Mars.

     In 1968, Richard M. Nixon was nominated for president at the
   Republican national convention in Miami Beach.

     In 1973, Vice President Spiro T. Agnew branded as "damned lies"
   reports he had taken kickbacks from government contracts in Maryland,
   and vowed not to resign -- which he eventually did.

     1974, President Nixon announced his intention to resign following
   new damaging revelations in the Watergate scandal.

    
    	Oh yeah, Stan Freberg turned 70 yesterday.
    

    .511:
    
    Bummer.
    
    "Whaddya mean, you cooked the Turkey, Charlie?"

    .510
    
    And with that America lost its virgnity.

 August 8, 1977 I began my career with Digital in the original CXO plant
 in Fountain, Colorado.




 Jim

    
    	Happy anniversary, Jim ... here's hoping you're with us for
    	another 19 years!!
    

I caint commit to being there to see the nexted 19 years, but I hope you
stay with D.E.C. as long as you wanna.

  Well, when I walked in the door on that fateful day, I'd never expected
to be here 19 years, so I'm thankful for that..and, thanks to Digital
 I've lived in Colorado on 2 separate occasions, Arizona and New Hampshire,
 though I never expected to live in New England for the 13 years that I've
 been here..



 Jim

    One year ago today Jerry Garcia left us for that incredible Rock and
    Roll band bneyond the great divide (or is that grateful divide:-)).
    
    

    On this day 51 years ago, Nagasaki was A-bombed, effectively ending WW2
    
    As an aside: After they (Japan) had agreed to the surrender terms,
    they attacked a couple of unarmed B-32 (the number B-32 is correct) bombers
    on photo recon over the Japanese islands.
    
    
    Steve

    
    	Does it seem odd to anyone else that Jerry Garcia died EXACTLY
    	50 years [to the day] after the Nagasaki bomb was dropped?
    
    	I smell a conspiracy, and I think we should add 1 more to the
    	Clinton Body Count just in case.
    

     In 1962, one day after launching Andrian Nikolayev into orbit, the
   Soviet Union also sent up cosmonaut Pavel Popovich. Both men landed
   safely August 15th.

	13 August 1961

	A day of infamy.

	http://bulova.zko.dec.com/group/covert/checkpoint_charlie.gif

Out of curiosity, how much (if any) of the Berlin Wall is left?  Is it a long
ongoing project to remove it or is it long gone?  Did they preserve sections
as a memorial? I used to be fascinated by books with stories of escapes from
East Germany. 

The last time I was in Berlin, 12 March 1993, almost all of the wall in the
center of the city had been removed with the exception of the odd 20-foot
piece here and there left as reminder/memorial.

However, around the North, West, and South of what was West Berlin, large
pieces remain, because there's no particular reason to pull it down except
where roads could be reopened through it.

/john