Conference back40::soapbox

"No."

   - Marcel Marceau

    
    
        "Go pound sand"
    
    or 
    
    
        " Vini Vini Vini "  or is it "Veni Veni Veni"
    
    
    sin-te-da

    "Veni Veni Veni" is wot the Energizer Bunny said, in Latin, describing
    what happened when his batteries were in backwards.  Wot Caesar said
    was "Veni, vidi, vici."
    
    |-{:-)
    

    A former DECcie's MAIL personal_name was "Veni, veni, veni -- whew!"

    I have a problem with this quote.  It should say....
    
    "Knowledge applied effectively is power."
    
    
    peace.
    
    

    "NUTS!!"

     coupla grunts sizing up new 2nd lt. who just got in country.
    
    "well, he's got some common sense. and with that anything is possible.
    without it, nothing will save him".

    "everybody gotta die sometime"

    
    "We are Borg"
    
    "You will be assimilated"
    
    "Restistance is futile".
    
    3rd of 5

 >           <<< Note 71.6 by HAAG::HAAG "Rode hard. Put up wet." >>>
 >
 >   "NUTS!!"
    
    What I like is how this famous quote got escalated, at least in some
    quarters.  My mother, a WWII veteran, always swore he said "shit" and
    that "nuts" was just the euphemism appropriate to the era.
    
    Then last week I surfed up to a PBS thingy on the Battle of the Bulge
    which actually described how he came to use that word, and it really
    was "nuts".
    
    Of course, it could have been used as a double-entendre, in the sense
    of "balls", which would have been fun, but the anecdote pretty clearly
    relates the story as a kind "ah, nuts to him" kind of dismissal.
    
    Kit
    
    P.S. One of my favorites:
    
    Obnoxious matron at dinner: "Oh, Sir Winston, if I were your wife, I'd
               put poision in your morning coffee!"
    
    Long-suffering Churchill: "Madam, if I were your husband, I'd drink
               it."
    

    "You lose"--Calvin Coolidge, to a young lady who had bet that she could
    get him to say at least three words at dinner.
    
    Marty

    can't remember who it was. but in a Parliamentary exchange:
    
    "Sir, you will either hang or die of the pox"
    
    "That depends, sir, on whether I embrace your principles or your wife"

    "Our greatest glory consists not in never falling, but in rising
    everytime we fall."
    
    Oliver Goldsmith

    "The Free World must now prove itself worthy of its own past."
    
    Dwight D. Eisenhower

    
    
    "Because that's the way we've always done it."
    
    
    
    

	"Are you talkin'??? Pffft... whatever!"

    
    	"I'm up to my giblets in beach balls!"
    
    			- Big Bird
    

    Anent .10: Kit, since your reply will soon be deleted, I'll
    recapitulate 8^)
    
    [Gene Haag] >>>   "NUTS!!"
    
    >> What I like is how this famous quote got escalated, at least in some
    >> quarters.  My mother, a WWII veteran, always swore he said "[feces]" 
    >> and that "nuts" was just the euphemism appropriate to the era.
    
    Given that the expression "Oh [feces]" is today synonymous with "Oh,
    no!" wouldn't that have been an ambiguous reply?  Wouldn't the Germans
    have wondered if the American commander was surrendering?

    
    
    
            "Don't fake the funk, because the funk can't be faked"
    

	I don't think they (old soapbox farts) will forget
that one any time soon.		%^)	:-}

    Mongo LIKE Sheriff Bart!
    
    We're on a mission from God.
    
    Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!
    
    

    
    So many dipsticks, so little oil
    
    Go pund sand
    
    You want it when?!?!?!
    
    Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
    
    I've been placed on earth to do a certain # of jobs.  Right now I'm so
    far behind I may *never* die.
    
    Death is nature's way of telling you it's time to slow down.
    
    Are we having fun yet?
    
    Bored with your job?  Try mine...
    
    Procrastination *IS*
    
    ...and after again failing to jump start the economy, congress voted
    today to have it towed away.
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    From a Catholic relative, by marriage, thankfully not a blood relative:
    
    "Your Uncle and I were married in St. Peter's Rectum"
    
    -b

    
    Billy can run, but he can't hide.

    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do
    nothing."
    
    Edmund Burke

    "Conscience is a mother-in-law whose visit never ends."
    
    HL Mencken
    

    
    
    
    
                   "Life is short, eternity is forever"
    
    
    
    

Life is uncertain. Eat dessert first.

	- Marge Davis Hallyburton

We have nothing to fear but fear itself.

FDR

Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.
JFK

Muh Fellow Mercuns
LBJ

>Muh Fellow Mercuns
>LBJ

That wasn't his best, though. That would be -

Ah come to you tonaht with a heavy hort.

    My favorite quote from LBJ has to be:
    
    "...Therefore, I shall not seek, and will not accept..."
    
    You know the rest.  :-)
    
    Chris

You're correct Chris. That was his best loved quote.

I remember the night I watched him say it. I thought I'd died and gone to
heaven.

    "i will not send americans boys to far off lands to do the fighting
    asian boys should be doing" 
    
    LBJ (that's as close as i remember the quote)

    
    "i'd rather have him inside of the tent pissing out, than outside
    of the tent pissing in."
    
    lbj on j. edgar hoover
    

>    LBJ (that's as close as i remember the quote)

Close enough, Gene.

And then folks complained about George "Read My Lips" Bush. Pretty amazing.

March 31, 1968.

 "He can't chew gum and (4 letter word for flattulence) at the same time"


    LBJ on  Gerald Ford

    "I really don't know anything"
    
    "Well I think that you do"
    
    " who gives A %&^* WHAT YOU THINK !"
    
    48 hours...

    "To be in Bosnia is difficult for us.  It's a European problem, and we
    are North Americans.  The Americans want to control everything, and
    fight down to the last Canadian and Frenchman."
    
    -Canadian PM Jean Chretien, interviewed in Le Monde, as quoted in today's 
    Toronto Globe and Mail.

    re -1
    
    the canuck PM is right. no need to be snotty about it tho.

    
    
    It's Tommy this, and Tommy that,
    And Tommy how's your soul.
    But it's a thin red line of heros
    When the guns begin to roll.
    
    -Kipling

	Marsha Marsha Marsha!!!! 


Jan Brady

    
    
    <---------  BWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
    
    
    then there's:
    
    "MY NOSE!!!!!!"
    
    marcia brady
    
    

    <---One of the funniest skits I ever heard was on BCN, they did the
    Brady Bunch in El Salvador...
    
    bombs exploding...
    
          rapid machine gun fire...
    
    		general mayhem...and suddenly you hear
    
    			"Oh my nose!"
    
    
    C

    
    "Pearl Harbor was not as bad as the bombing of Nagasaki"
     
    Mayor of Nagasaki

    depends upon your perspective doesn't it?

	to be sure...

	"This weather ain't fit for man or beast"

		

			Yukon Cornelious

             "A child won't be harmed by playing with themselves"



Soon to be gone Surgeon General Elders on the Today Show Monday morning

    -.1 will that require a surgeon general's warning on the part in
      question?

	Chip, they only put warnings on things that are bad for you. Playing is
good. 

    I looked & looked for MY warning label.  Musta lost it at the Bris.
    
    I sure hope it didn't say "NOT TO BE REMOVED EXCEPT BY THE CONSUMER!"
    
    |-{:-)
    

    ... we're getting bad! Or is it getting better?

    
    "It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone
    collecting the sacrificial offerings.  Where there's service, there is
    someone being served.  The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is
    speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master." 
    
                                 -- Ayn Rand
    

re .-1

	And here we offer and present unto thee, O Lord, our selves,
	our souls and bodies, to be a reasonable, holy, and living
	sacrifice unto thee...

    There are none so blind then those who *will not* see.
    						Don't Know, but I like it.
    
    

	The war is between those who would be left alone, and those who will
not leave them alone.

	from some dood on the net

    "The aryan is not the greatest in his mental qualities as such, but in
    the extent of his willingness to put all his abilities in the service
    of the community. In him the instinct of self-preservation has reached
    the noblest form, since he willingly subordinates his own ego to the
    life of the community and, if the hour demands, even sacrifices it."
    
    Adolph Hitler
    "Mein Kampf"

    "Most people can today no longer expect to receive consolation from
    art. The refined, the rich, the distillers of quintessence desire only
    the peculiar, the eccentric, the scandalous in today's art. And I
    myself, since the advent of cubism, have fed these fellows what they
    wanted, and satisfied these critics with all the rediculous ideas that
    have passed through my head.
    
    "The less they understood them, the more they admired me. Through
    amusing myself with all these absurd farces, I became celebrated. But
    when I am alone, I do not have the affrontery to consider myself an
    artist at all, not in the grand old meaning of the word. Giotto,
    Titian, Rembrandt and goya, they were great painters. I am only a
    public clown.
    
    "I have understood my time and have exploited the imbecility, the
    vanity, the greed of my contemporaries. It is a bitter confession of
    mine - more painful than it may seem. But at least and at last it does
    have the merit of being honest.
    
    Pablo Picasso
    November, 1951

  and right he was

re: .61

"Taste is the enemy of creativness."  Pablo Picasso

    re: .63
    
    Is there a point here? When did old PP say this? I'll wager it was
    prior to November, 51.
    
    ...Tom

It's on on my left-handed calendar.  No date of the quote is given.

Bob

    
    It's okay to have material things as long as it's okay not to have
    them.
    
    <heard in passing>
    
    
    Mike

    "The rituals and symbolism of the Catholic Church, when taken out of
    context, are wildly surrealistic and absurd. After all Jesus was some
    kind of visionary schizophrenic who thought his mother was a virgin and
    his father made the world in seven days. I've always thought of the
    immaculate conception as this huge penis chasing poor Mary around the
    place. And then you have Mary trying to explain to Joseph exactly how
    she got pregnant. I don't understand why that's not mentioned in The
    Bible."
    
    -ANTONIO MENDOZA, in an interview on the Web
    (see http://desires.com/Urban_desires/Features/mendoza_interview.html)
    

    Why what isn't mentioned?  The Bible mentions very clearly the
    character of Joseph, his reaction to Mary and then the word from the
    Angel explaining to Joseph why his betrothed is pregnant.
    
    

        So, could Waco have been a latter-day Masada?
        
        

    greg,
    
    "Honest Joseph, its the child of God.  an angel told me!"

    Wrong, wrong, wrong!!!
    
    The angel told Joseph. Really check out Luke 1 and 2. :-)

>I've always thought of the immaculate conception as this huge penis chasing
>poor Mary around the place.
>    
>    -ANTONIO MENDOZA, in an interview on the Web

I don't know who Antonio Mendoza is, but he's rather ignorant.

Mary couldn't have been _chased_ by the immaculate conception; she was
_conceived_ by it.

Immaculate Conception is on December 8th, 9 months before the commemoration
of Mary's birth on September 8th.

/john

        There I was thinking that Jesus' conception was "The Immaculate
        Conception" as opposed to Mary's.
        
        Life of Brian makes more sense...
        

              <<< Note 71.72 by COVERT::COVERT "John R. Covert" >>>

>I've always thought of the immaculate conception as this huge penis chasing
>poor Mary around the place.
>    
>    -ANTONIO MENDOZA, in an interview on the Web

I don't know who Antonio Mendoza is, but he's rather ignorant.

Mary couldn't have been _chased_ by the immaculate conception; she was
_conceived_ by it.

Immaculate Conception is on December 8th, 9 months before the commemoration
of Mary's birth on September 8th.

/john

>        There I was thinking that Jesus' conception was "The Immaculate
>        Conception" as opposed to Mary's.

Nope, Jesus' conception is "The Annunciation", March 25th, nine months
before Christmas.

And there was no penis involved:

		"Thou shalt conceive in thy womb"

was spoken with the same power as the words:

		"Let there be light"

/john

        You have  to  remember that I was raised Protestant in the west
        highlands of Scotland, John - Mary only had a "bit part" in that
        version. :^)
        
        Peace to all
        
        

    .67
    
    > thought his mother was a virgin
    
    eh??  the word "virgin" appears exactly three times in the king james
    translation of the four gospels:
    
        Mt 1:23 Behold, a VIRGIN shall be with child, and shall bring forth
        a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being
        interpreted is, God with us.
    
        Lu 1:27 To a VIRGIN espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the
        house of David; and the VIRGIN's name [was] Mary.
    
    the word used in the greek is parthenos, whose principal meaning was a
    marriageable maiden, not necessarily a virgin as we now understand the
    term.  in any case, there's no evidence from his recorded sayings that
    jesus ever took thought on the matter one way or t'other.

    You mean... the whole theological superstructure of the virgin birth
    may have originated in... a translator's error?  Yikes!
    

    worse, drdan, it was common practice back then for a man to test the
    ride before buying the car, as it were.  if she failed to get preggers,
    the betrothal was off.

                                 shock horror!

    love it when a quote gets so much interest.  thanks, y'all, for
    validating that it is indeed 'memorable'.
    
    DougO

	it's usually memorable when people say such uninformed things.

    ah, but we forgive artists so much, Di.
    
    DougO

    
    Where do you get your info that it was common practice to try to get a
    woman pregnant and if she didn't perform it was "off wif her head"?
    
    Engagement did not include sex, as I understand it.  Though in 1994 many 
    would like to believe it did.
    
    It is true that AFTER MARRIAGE a woman could be given her written
    divorcement if she were unable to have children, but typically it
    didn't happen.  Typically he just took wife #2.
    
    

In that era the betrothal typically lasted a year.  This was much more than
a modern engagement. A divorce was necessary to sever the relationship.
A bethrothed woman who willingly had sex with a man other than her betrothed
was an adulteress (the partner was an adulterer whether or not the sex
was consensual).  During the betrothal, the woman continued to live with
and be supported by her father.  At the end of the year, her betrothed
had to begin supporting her whether or not he married her.  This was
presumably sufficient incentive for him to marry her since it was
forbidden for him to live with her until the wedding.  There were
areas of Israel where it seems to have been common for a betrothed
couple to have sexual relations, but it was nonetheless frowned upon.

    I think it is also important to recognize that the scripture
    specifically states that Joseph knew he wasn't the father.  Therefore,
    it is safe to say he didn't have sex with her to try her out.

    .86
    
    of course scripture states joseph didn't know he was the father.  it is
    typical of mystical religions, of which xianity is one, that in their
    formative stages they manipulate the story until it fits the image they
    want to convey.
    
    it is safe to say joseph didn't try mary out if you wish to believe the
    literal truth of the gospels.  but remember that jesus never once is
    reported to have called himself the son of god.  he called himself the
    son of MAN.  others called him the son of god, but that is not the same
    as if he himself assumed the title - which in fact he specifically
    avoided - see matthew 26:63-64 for an example of this.

    Still bound and determined to erradicate any litteral interpretations
    of the Bible, eh Binder.  8^)
    
    I believe I can prove you wrong on this one, but I will have to bring
    my Bible in to work tomorrow to do it.  If memory serves, one of Jesus'
    deciples was asked who he thought Jesus was...he answered by saying
    Jesus was the son of God.  Jesus confirmed this.  I'll dig up the
    passage tonight...it will give me something different to study on this
    evening (after bowling night...I may need a good dose of scripture to
    lift me up if this one is anything like the last couple of league
    nights  8^) ).
    
    
    -steve

    .88
    
    i'll retract the assertion, steve.  i've just found the reference.  in
    john 9:35-37, it is explicit; it's the incident of the blind man he
    healed.

    Matthew 16.
    
    This is the account between Peter and Jesus.
    
    -Jack

    "The oppressor has nothing more than the power you confer upon him to
    destroy you. Where has he acquired enough eyes to spy upon you if you
    do not provide them yourselves? How can he have so many arms to beat
    you with if he does not borrow them from you? The feet that trample
    down your cities, where does he get them if they are not your own? How
    does he have any power over you except through you? How would he dare
    assail you if he had not cooperation from you?"
    
    Etienne de la Boetie
    "A Discourse of Voluntary Servitude"
    16th Century

    .92
    
    Amen!!!  There is nothing more freeing than surrender, when it comes to
    the almighty God.
    
    
    :-)
    
    Nancy
    

    "ordinary people simply doing their jobs, and without any particular
    hostility on their part, can become agents in a terrible dsetructive
    process. Moreover, even when the destructive effects of their work
    become patently clear, and they are asked to carry out actions
    incompatible with fundamental standards of morality, relatively few
    people have the resources needed to resist authority."
    
    Stanley Milgram
    "Obedience to Authority" (book based on results of electric-shock
    experiments, done at Yale University)

    
    The only thing you can take with you is that which you have given away.
    
    
    
    

    depends on where you are going....

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    Never having seen this show as
    it would interrupt the 700 Club and VCRs are the devil's toy (allows
    one to watch R rated tapes and such you know) I cannot vouch for the
    lecherous suggestion above.  
    
    Brian

    Why thank you ! :-)

    I wonder if anyone would mind..

    Forgive and ye shall be forgiven... Luke 6:37c

    re: .100
    
    What a waste of a good SNARF. 

     Good snarf?!! Take it to the oxymoron note.

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    No, the ration of liberals to conservatives in this forum is fairly
    close to talk radio. The world of talk radio (and logical talk radio
    like sports bars, NRA meetings, fundamentalist churches and Soapbox) is
    so closed, inbred and self-referential that it can conceive of nothing
    for which it is not the paradym.
    
    Kit

    
    "Better to die in the jaws of a shark than in bed."
    
    	- Guy Delage, currently attempting to swim across the Atlantic.
    

    When in doubt, tell the truth.
    
    Mark Twain

    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even
    though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who
    neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray
    twilight that knows not victory or defeat."
    
    Theodore Roosevelt

    The news about my demise are much exaggerated.
    
    Mark Twain
    

    
    "The difference between a taxidermist and a tax collector is that the
     taxiderminst only takes the skin."
    
    Mark Twain
    

	"We shall march on ballot boxes, until we send to our city
	 councils, state legislatures, and the United States Congress
	 men who will not fear to do justice, love mercy, and walk
	 humbly with their God."

				-- The Rev. Dr. ~|}}}

    The Strong take from the weak.
    
    
    The SMART take from the strong.

    I DIDN'T DESIGN THE GD THING... I just try and make it work...

    mine on people missing their commitments when folks in my group
    managing a project and they ask for advice...
    
    one missed commitment is an event
    
    missing a second one is habit... go work it with their manager!

    
    "If you're not outraged, you haven't been paying attention."
    

    "The best of all ways to lengthen our days is to steal a few hours from
    the night!
    
    T. Moore

    "The free world must prove itself worthy of its own past."
    
    Dwight Eisenhower
    

    "He that can have patience can have what he will."
    
    Ben Franklin

    "The only difference between a rut and a grave is their dimensions."
    
    Ellen Glascow

    "No one can be so welcome a guest that he will not annoy his host after
    three days."
    
    Plautus

    "Eloquence is the child of knowledge"
    
    Benjamin Disraeli

    
    "When you come to a fork in the road, take it."
    
    Yogi Berra
    

 "Heroic management is nothing but conscientiousness and hard work."

 - Peter Drucker

    "This administration's foreign policy is not policy and it's foreign to
    them".
    
    General Swartzkoff on the Clinton Administration
    
    

    here are a few famous quotes on character:
    
    "Let us not say, Every man is the architect of his own fortune; but let
    us say, Every man is the architect of his own character."
    
    George Boardman
     
    
    "Weakness of character is the only defect which cannot be amended."
    
    Francois de la Rochefoucauld
    
    
    "You must look into people, as well as at them."
    
    Ralph Waldo Emerson
    
    
    "A man never discloses his own character so clearly as when he
    describes another's."
    
    Jean Paul Richter
    
    
    "The four cornerstones of character on which the structure of this
    nation was built are: Initiative, Imagination, Individuality and
    Independence."
    
    Eddie Rickenbacker
    
    
    "Every man has three characters: that which he exhibits, that which he
    has, and that which he thinks he has."
    
    Alphonse Karr
    
    
    
    IMHO, Bill Clinton doesn't have 'character'.
    

    .123
    
    if slick doesn't have character, not even according to eddie
    rickenbacker's idea, then he exhibits no defining qualities at all
    (such as waffling and a talent for faux pas), has no qualities inside
    (such as belief in himself and in his god), and doesn't even think he
    has any qualities at all.
    
    sorry, wafflefartz, you're full of chite.  he has character.  he
    believes in what he is doing, he just doesn't know how to do anything
    right.

    sorry blindus, your blind loyalty to the turd sittin' in the WH clouds
    your normally halfway reliable thinking....he ain't got any of the 4 Is
    ER stated, and if you take the other statements and turn them into
    negatives, it paints a picture of the beleagured bubba like the glove
    fits OJ

    .125
    
    loyalty, schmoyalty.  like i said, HE believes he's doing the right
    thing, which does NOT mean that i also believe that.  think about it,
    wafflefatz, i said he can't do anything right - does that look like
    somebody who LIKES the jerk?

    don't get testy wif me Blindus, got caught in the act of idol worship
    and all the sort;
    
    :-)

    did i say you were going to be missed when you leave?
    
    well, i was right.  i'll miss the amusement you afford with your feeble
    attempts to look righteous after you've been shown up for an idjit.

    These next ones are for you Blindus:
    
    "The best way to convince a fool he is wrong is to let him have his own
    way."
    Josh Billings
    
    Let us be thankful for fools; but for them the rest of us could not
    succeed!"
    Mark Twain
    
    "What the fool does in the end, the wise man does in the beginning."
    Proverb
    
    A fool can no more see his own folly than he can see his ears."
    William Makepeace Thackeray
    

    .129
    
    it's sure wonderful to see you entering so many lovely quotations,
    wafflefartz.  not got an original thought in your head, eh?  keep
    coming back to that book of quotations, boyo, you're so cute.
    
    	as a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
    
    					- proverbs 26:2

    woof, woof!

    bowzie wowzie!
    
    Leslie

    
    "Well, I haven't been paying attention, but it seems one thing is
    clear:"
    
    					By our esteemed Chelsea.

    I have awesome powers of detection, you see....

    "if you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans"
    
    forgot who said this, but it stuck in my mind

    .135
    Thats almost like telling your boss what you would like in your job
    plan!!!

             The MORE you complain, the longer God lets you live

"The more things change, the more they remain the same."

I dunno who said it first, but they must have NOTEd in here . . . 

 coulda beena french dude

 plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

    Isn't that the same guy who said the king is not a subject?

	Who, the French guy?  I suppose he could have, if he
	was bilingual.

    Le Roi n'est pas un sujet.

 yes, mon cher, that was a, how you say, joke.

> coulda beena french dude

Musta been Dana Charbonneau . . . . 

    Was watchin this movie last night, Witness for the Prosecution, when
    the man said something along the lines of the hats that women have
    should make more men kill.

   Why go out for milk when you have a cow at home.
        Al Bundy

"Remember if they don't find you handsome . They'll find you handy."

Red Greene when talking about the wombman/man relationship

    
    ..."wombman"?
    
    How...inventive.
    
    
    oh, and suggested edits:
    
    "Remember if they don't find you handsome . They'll find you handy."
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	Mz Deb, you're so helpful ;-)
	
	would you please help me. edit this I yoos the ::RAUH method of
	riting. not only that. but I dont yoos speel chek.  :) :)

    
    I only offer unsolicited advice, jay darlin'.
    
    Anyhoo, after what you did to me at Christmas, I shouldn't even be
    TALKING to you 8^).

	oh sure, throw that in my face again.
	
	I said I'd make it up to you.
	(er, what was it I did again?)
	
	And, you are just a plethora of personal_names lately.  ;-)

    "I`m built for comfort, not speed".
    
    I don`t know who said it but it is my most-used quote then next in line
    would be "Just call me the pig that I am", by Andrew Dice Clay.

Thank's for running it through Deb checker.

I'll choose the ignore option...

<---Glenn+ warned me you were hard to ignore?

    Pretty soon, we can even start work on the inappropriate use of
    question marks! :-)
    
    -b

    
    
    If you're going to be a stickler...
    

	Yeah right....

    Two can play....

    "Beauty is only a light switch away."
    
             A saying from college days.
    
                    

    <---- Now THAT is funny!

    
    RE: .164
    
    As long as I get to wash them down with the beer you're going to buy
    me!!!!!
    
    
     :) :)
    

    Now, now... don't get me started on the Doritos again! :-) :-) :-)
    
    -b

    A good bag of doritos after a good chinese buffet. Wash it down with a
    cold can of Diet MSG and then enjoy half a pack of Marlboros. 
    
    It takes a MAN to laugh in the face of cancer.

    
    
    	hehehehehehehe<gasp>hehehehehehehe
    

[Frasier Crane has just advised Woody Boyd that he should
 reconsider running for Boston City Councilman.]

	Well, Dr. Crane, you're probably right. I mean,
	next to Mr. Clavin, you're the smartest man I know.

				- Woody Boyd

    "You shouldn`t be sleeping with such a young man! Sleep...who can sleep
    with all that sex goin on".
    
    (one porno star to another in a movie that I can`t remember the title
    to.)

    "Daddy would have gotten us Uzis."

  "Jim, look out for the dog!"




                    my blind friend Ron as we were driving somewhere one day.

How's this for a quote?
    
******************************************************************************
MadMike Maciolek, Dawsonville Georgia USA       [email protected]
The strong take from the weak.  The SMART take from the strong.
******************************************************************************

"I knew that by assembling seven different people and
forcing them to live together, the show would have
great philosophical implications.  On a much larger
scale this happens all the time.  Eventually, the
Israelis are going to have to learn to live with the
Arabs.  We have one world, and 'Gilligan's Island' was
my way of saying that."

Sherwood Schwartz, "Gilligan's Island" creator.

 .177   
 foof...aaagagag

"Never have anything to do with a woman who would rather be a man. That
means she's never going to do what a woman is supposed to do --- which
leaves you stuck with both what a man's supposed to do and what a woman's
supposed to do."

        - Kurt Vonnegut, in "Bluebeard"

If Sherwood Schwartz was right, I've got to start 
stocking up on coconuts -- the solution to all problems.

	Joanne, coconuts make great glasses for Pin� Coladas.....

	See?  I told you they solve all the world's problems...
	just ask the professor.

"This is Lowell Thomas saying, 'So lonnnng, until tomorrow."

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
 Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."

	Groucho Marx

    Now that's the silliest thing I ever heard.

    .186
    
    So, from Groucho Marx you expect Shakespeare??
    
    

    "Mural:  
       yonder nor sorghum stences shut ladle gulls torque wet strainers."

    Was that from "Ladle Rat Rotten Hut?"

    Yup.  I had a copy in college, but apparently I didn't bring it over to
    Digital.  So I'm left with what I can remember:
    
    Wants pawn term dare worsted ladle gull hoe left wetter murder inner
    ladle cordage honor itch offer lodge, dock florist.

>>    Yup.  I had a copy in college, but apparently I didn't bring it over to
>>    Digital.  So I'm left with what I can remember:

	There are copies of it in JOYOFLEX, I believe.  I memorized it
	in high school and have a copy of the version I know on the system,
	but apparently there's more than one version out there.

	

    "if you can choose between being right and being kind, be kind"
    
    who said this?? i cannot remember and it's bugging me!
    
    ric

I could name several people whom it wasn't if that would help.

    .193
    
    tee hee 8^)
    
    ric

    .193
    
    "I could name several people who it wasn't if that would help."
                                 ^^^
    
    Predicate nominative.
    
    NNTTM.

    eh?

    whom

    where?

    .197
    
    Sorry, but it really is who, not whom.
    
    "I can name several people" is a clause, and "who it wasn't" is a
    clause that modifies people.  The right form is "who" because "wasn't"
    is what's called a state-of-being verb, and it takes a predicate
    nominative, not an object.
    
    You see, "who it wasn't" is semantically the same as "it wasn't who." 
    This sounds funny, but try it as "it wasn't he."  Still funny-sounding
    to lots of people, the wrong form "it wasn't him" being so prevalent,
    but a competent English teacher will tell you that it's correct.
    
    NNTTM.

    Okay, okay, I see.  I mis-corrected.  8^)

    eh?

    But no-body answered the question :-e

It is the mark of an inexperienced man not to believe in luck.
--Joseph Conrad

So unlucky that he runs into accidents which started out to happen to
somebody else.
--Don Marquis

If a man who cannot count finds a four-leaf clover, is he lucky?
--Stanislaw J. Lec

Better an ounce of luck than a pound of gold.
--Yiddish Proverb

As long as we are lucky we attribute it to our smartness; our bad
luck we give the gods credit for.
--Josh Billings

Good luck is a lazy man's estimate of a worker's success.
--Anonymous

I believe in luck: how else can you explain the success of those
you dislike?
--Jean Cocteau

Shallow men believe in luck. Strong men believe in cause and effect.
--Ralph Waldo Emerson

A pound of pluck is worth a ton of luck.
--James A. Garfield

The only sure thing about luck is that it will change.
--Wilson Mizner

Depend on the rabbit's foot if you will, but remember it didn't work
for the rabbit.
--R. E. Shay

    
    "Chance (or luck ;^) favours the prepared mind."
    

    Jack is lucky to know all those quotes.
    
    Ned

Ned is lucky that Franny hasn't yet pressed charges with the RCMP.

Jack

	Yer still logged in, eh Jack? No wonder your luck has stopped! :-)

    Oh no, no no no. He's lucky all right.

    
    Stop, you guys, stop, stop stop.  I'm weeing myself, really I am 8^).

Well, why aren't you trimming your foundation weeds instead of,
er, that?

    She doesn't wear _that_ much foundation, do she?
    
    Oh my!

    
    <-- shaddap, you 8^).
    
    Jack, does the weed trimmer come equipped with a headlight?  It's kinda
    dark out right now 8^).
    

Yahbut I just figured your schedule is so busy you'd need every
waking hour for the yard work 'n all. Then, there's always the
"trim at night - repent by daylight" approach. It never ceases
to amaze - the effects you can get by doing yard work after dark.

(Psst. BTW - how'd you get that "shaddap" to work so well?)

    I'm not saying a word.
    
    8^)

Lucky for you!

:^)

    
    >(Psst. BTW - how'd you get that "shaddap" to work so well?)

    Well, I guess I'm just a very lucky woman 8^).

No doubt . . . 

 
"By calling attention to a well-regulated militia for the security of the
Nation, and the right of each citizen to keep and bear arms, our Founding
Fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy.  Although
it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny, which gave
rise to the second amendment, will ever be a major danger to our Nation, the
amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic military-
civilian relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate
in the defense of his country.  For that reason I believe the second 
amendment will always be important."
 
Senator John F. Kennedy in an interview for an article which appeared in
Guns magazine April 1960.
 

	who's fat boy? 

    
    sounds like the senatah from Hyannis

	Ohhh...... he's been vewy vewy quiet since getting re-elected...

    	Did someone say Ted Kennedy?  Well here is an interesting quote 
    	from him:
    
	" ... it is my personal feeling that the legalization of 
    	abortion on demand is not in accordance with the values 
    	which our civilization places on human life.  Wanted or 
    	unwanted, I believe that human life, even at its earliest 
    	stages, has certain rights which must be recognized -- the 
    	right to be born, the right to love, the right to grow old. 
    
    	"... When history looks back to this era it should recognize 
    	this generation as one which cared about human beings enough 
    	to fulfill its responsibility to its children from the very 
    	moment of conception."

    	Senator Ted Kennedy.   August 1971

	Ahhh, but people do change. Kind of like when one isn't a Christian and
then they become one. 

    	Kind of more like the opposite, wouldn't you say? 

	Oppisite as one is Christian and one decides to not be one? 

    RE: .241
    
    That one broke may parser, yes it did. It's now lying in
    shards on the floor, and may never be the same... :-)
                                                         

    "Chubby people always look younger"
    
    
    "'cause they fill out all the wrinkles."
    
    

	No, I was trying to figure out what you meant in your reply to me.

>	Ohhh...... he's been vewy vewy quiet since getting re-elected...

Well, hell, Glen - the man only wakes up once every six years or when
he feels water around his ankles in the front seat of his car! Why
would you expect him to be noisy?

	The water wuz up to his neck this past election. Good thing he
floats... kind of like a huge green olive.....

    "I've got 12 inches, but I don't use it as a rule."
    
    						- Eiyam Hung

    
    "Life is tough, it's even tougher, when your stupid"

    That oughtta send MZ Debra into overdrive...

    
    
    ...my condolences
    
    

    
    I'm too busy weeing myself to correct it 8^).

    I have to admit: Mark's quote even beats Glen saying he's anal
    because he wants to see where people are coming from.

    -b

	Brian... you crack me up! 

    
    "Clowns will always be a part of our circus."
    
    				- Tom Davis
    

    >Clowns will always be a part of our circus
    
    Yea, but will there be hundreds of them getting out of very small
    automobiles??   I love that :)
    
    ..Tom

    
    Se. Frank R. Lautenberg, New Jersey democrat during the debate on
    cloture at the Foster hearings.
    
    "If you have the first sin, then pass the first stone."

    
    "You know, I shoved my fist down this lame bitch's mouth and there
    was a lot of teeth in there.  I kind of do that sometimes.  Shove
    my fist in people's mouths."
    
    						- Courtney Love
    

    This troubles me.

    
    	Ah courtney.....the pillar of womanhood....
    
    

>    	Ah courtney.....the pillar of womanhood....
    
she's an old slapper, isn't she?  And why does she always look like she
needs a bath?

Chris.

    >>...And why does she always look like she needs a bath?
    
    
    maybe 'cuz she does...
    
    
    

    
    	    >>...And why does she always look like she needs a bath?
    
    	it's the grundge thing...
    
    

    
    "I think women should be more violent, kill more of their husbands."
    
    					- Roseanne Barr/Arnold/Thomas/etc.
    

    
    " Women, can't live with them, can't kill them"
    
                                        - Tom Arnold

    
    RE: -1
    
    Bzzzt. Wrong.
    
    "Women, can't live with them, can't _shoot_ them"
    
    				- Stephen Wright
    
    If Arnold said it, he stole it!
    
    -b

    
    -b you are correct on the quote, it was from True Lies. my apologies.

    
    From the movie Braveheart:
    
    "The Lord says He can get me outta this, 
         but He thinks you're pretty much fooked"
    
    :-)
    Dan

    "Keep in mind that these games first appeared in bars. The play action
    for Pong was hardly engaging. Our design criterion was simple: a game
    you could play half drunk while holding a beer in one hand."
    
    				- Nolan Bushnell, founder of Atari, on the
    				  genesis of video games ("The New York
    				  Times," 6/18/95)

    Like the bee its sting, the promiscuous leave behind them in each encounter 
    something of themselves by which they are made to suffer.


						Cyril Connolly (1903-1974)
						British critic

    God is really only another artist.  He invented the giraffe, the
    elephant and the cat.  He has no real style, He just goes on trying
    other things.
		                    -- Pablo Picasso

    Seen on a poster in Lancaster County Pennsylvania.
    
    "The trouble with advice is the person with the answer doesn't
    have the problem."
    
      

    
    "Bob, I think everyone who works for this company would like to know
    once and for all that there's some remote possibility we might have
    some job security.  As long as "right"sizing goes on, that will not
    happen.  If you're sincerely interested in affecting morale, in the
    upward direction, that is, please address this issue and tell us in
    straight words what we can really expect and why we should even try
    to feel good about our own futures with Digital."
    
    						- Richard Binder
    

    "Republicans are like 900 number phone sex. They tell us we're special,
     ask us what we really want, and say they want it, too. They tell us
     how much they want it, and how good it's going to be. But when it's
     over, we find out it costs us a lot of money, was not as good as the
     real thing, and they're never going to come over."
    
    - Jo Jorgenson, 1996 Libertarian VP candidate, at the 1995 LP Texas
      State Conference

    
    
    re: .274
    
    
    	classic!! :)
    
    
    jim

    ... and didja notice how short his latency was?  In *my* fambly, we
    give extra points for that.  Dick has moved, in one stroke of his ^Z
    key, from first to zeroth magnitude in MY view of the 'BoxFirmament.
    

    .275
    
    Not that it makes a difference, but Jo Jorgenson is the only announced
    female candidate on any ticket (barring a run by Lenora Fulani again).

    
    Radio Announcer: 
        "Well, it looks like the heat wave has broken, and ..."

    Me (at 5:00 this morning)
        "Well send it back, maybe they can fix it !"

    <expletives have been deleted for the gentler 'boxers' benefits>

    Dan

    
    "If only there were evil people somewhere, insidiously committing evil
    deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us
    and destroy them.  But the line dividing good and evil cuts through
    the heart of every human being.  And who is willing to destroy a piece
    of his own heart?"
    
    						- Alexandr Solzhenitsyn
    

 A politician will always tip off his true belief by stating the opposite at
 the beginning of the sentence.  For maximum comprehension, do not start
 listening until the first clause is concluded.  Begin instead at the word
 "but" which begins the second, or active, clause.  This is the way to tell a
 liberal from a conservative--before they tell you.  Thus:  "I have always
 believed in a strong national defense, second to none, but ... " (a liberal,
 about to propose a $20 billion defense cut).
                                        -- Frank Mankiewicz

    
    
    Seen on T-Shirt...
    
    
    
      "The older I get, the better I WAS"
    

    
    Thanks to the news briefs in Womannotes:
    
    CIA General Counsel Jeffrey H. Smith, on the CIA's use of "unsavory
    characters," like former terrorists, as paid informants:
    
    "When dining with the devil, it behooves the CIA to bring a long
    spoon."
    
    
    
    
    Rob
    

    "the nauseating and humiliating spectacle of this one-time Inner Temple
    lawyer, now seditious fakir, striding half naked up the steps of the
    Viceroy's palace, there to negotiate and to parley on equal terms with
    the representative of the King-Emporer."
    
    1 point for guessing who it was said about, 5 points for who said it. A
    point or so for where and when.
     

    EmpErOr. 
    
    nnttm for korrekting your erryr.  
    
    

    1 point Mr Topaz - Ghandi, Winston Churchill, House of Commons
    1931...and yes Churchill did say emperor, not emporer, although we'll
    never know for sure.

	"When you think about it, it's weird, people lining up on
	the street to buy an operating system."
    
    			- Mike Kosek,
			  Microsoft's eastern region marketing manager
    

 Rush read a thing from "Conspiracy Whacko" which claimedat Jerry
 Garcia was killed by the Clinton Admin because he was about to go
 public with the truth about Waco and Vince Foster's "suicide"..pretty
 funny.




 Jim

Jim, do remember the quote?  If not, why not?

Odd..I thought I'd put that in the conspiracies topic :-/



 Jim

    You did but "they" moved it.  

 But..but..why?

    
    
    Rad this little ditty in Abby today.  It's for all the parents and will
    be parents out there.  It refers to sons, but it applies to all
    children.
    
    To My Grown Up Son
    
    by Alice E. Chase
    
    My hands were busy through the day,
    I didn't have much time to play
    The little games you asked me to.
    I didn't have much time for you.
    I'd wash your clothes, I'd sew and cook,
    but when you'd bring your picture book
    And aske me please to share your fun,
    I'd say, "A little later son".
    I'd tuck you in all safe at night,
    And hear your prayers, turn out the light,
    Then tiptoe softly to the door.
    I wish I'd stayed a minute more.
    For life is short and years rush past,
    A little boy grows up so fast.
    No longer is he at your side,
    His precious secrets to confide.
    The picture books are put away,
    There are no children's games to play, 
    No good-night kiss, no prayers to hear.
    They all belong to yesteryear.
    My hands once busy, now lie still.
    The days are long and hard to fill. 
    I wish I might go back and do
    The little things you asked me to.
    

    <----  sorta like "Cats in the Cradle"

    
    <--- Yeah, who WAS it that did that song?
    
    

    
    Harry Chapin, killed in an accident in the Bronx, driving a VW...don't
    remember the date.
    

<----	I bet he does!

 "You have nothing to snarf but snarf itself"

    Life is an incurable, sexually transmitted disease.

    
    "I like ta hit people...."
                        Dick Butkis (?)
    
    "Don't look at it, just eat it!"
                        a friend of mine when I was contemplating Army
                        food...   :-P

    "I considered the cover we chose to be very conservative by today's
    standards. [...] The way some bookstores and distributors were
    reacting, you would have thought I had whipped out my miniscule cock."

    
    Is "cock" an R.O.?  'Cuz *I* sure recognize it!!
    
    Oh, it's in quotes.
    
    Nevermind.
    
    ;^)
    

re:             <<< Note 71.304 by WAHOO::LEVESQUE "the heat is on" >>>

Howard Stern?

    A cock is a male chicken.  A minuscule cock might be a banty rooster,
    which does of course possess spurs sufficient to provide immense
    stimulation when applied properly.

    And you can have one in your pants without anyone noticing?
    
    Maybe that's why teenaged boys wear those baggy pants.

    Just remember, Dierdre, erotic uses a feather.  Kinky uses the whole
    chicken.

    This is where  baster might come in handy, no?

    No, basters are for turkeys.  No interest here.

    You calling me a turkey?!?

    You appear to be gobbling up my responses...

    >Howard Stern?
    
     Si. I forgot to put in the attribution. This criminal that I'm working
    with foisted _Private Parts_ on me; I'm dying.

    Pvt Parts may resent that, Doc.

    
    
    So, it's good Mark?

    
    i'd like howard to send me some royalties.
    
    
    

    >So, it's good Mark?
    
     It's "easy reading" in that your brain needs only minimal
    functionality (in fact that may be optimal) but some of the stuff he
    writes has me in stitches. Irreverent doesn't even begin to tell the
    story.

  .318  he said "functionality"!  <grimace>
	make that two pinches.

>     It's "easy reading" in that your brain needs only minimal
>    functionality (in fact that may be optimal)


Hmmm. Sounds like the audio-book of Forest Gump.

I'd picked up some audio-books in the past to listen to while
driving and found that I was losing track of the story line when
traffic conditions "distracted" me [I think we might have discussed
this in here someplace.] This past week before I left for PA I
picked up FG for $11 or so and listened to it on the way south.
Piece of cake. Read by the author, in the tone of the Gumpish.
No sentence longer than 12 words. No word longer than eight letters.
You get the picture.

>>You get the picture.

	really??

For sure.

    >  .318  he said "functionality"!
    
     Get over it. :-)

    re: Stern
    
    I've avoided the book so far (but will probably cave eventually),
    and I also avoid his low-content radio/TV show.  But based on his
    original WWOR-based syndicated TV show from a few years ago, I'd
    say Stern is a talented, creative-thinking rebel, who could do
    some good stuff if he applied himself instead of blowing his shot
    on that stupid radio show.  Tasteless, low-life, shocking at times,
    but definitely can shake up the system with anarchistic comedy when
    he gets it together.
    
    Having said that, I can still mostly do without him, and perhaps the
    original TV show was just a flash of momentary brilliance and/or a
    complete fluke.  If there's anything that drives me buggy, it's seeing
    people with great potential squander it.
    
    Chris

    Just as further explanation to my earlier Stern note (in case it
    seems contradictory to my overall conservatism :-)), I've always
    believed that comedy is no good unless it offends somebody. :-)
    
    Thus, for example, the excellence of the original SNL, which was
    by no means to everyone's taste.  Or the early National Lampoon,
    or even the Marx Brothers or the Three Stooges.
    
    Chris

Are you allowed to say `parts' in here?  Or `pants' for that matter?

Chris.

    
    "There's more old drunks, than there are old doctors..."
    

	"Daddy!" the lesbian's son said, when he opened the

	kitchen drawer and saw the turkey baster.

    
    
    Careful there John....
    
    Quotes like that will definitely put you on somebody's frown list for
    sure!!!!
    
    :)
    

<---- you mean there are people who don't have him on that list???? NO WAY!!!

    
    I don't know about you, but I can't imagine putting the turkey baster
    back in the drawer after, um, its Special Usage.
    
    Bluuuuuuurgh.
    
    

    
    
    I ain't gonna say a word......

    Hence the term "little basted"?

    Stern?  Talent?  There's a no missing in there somewhere.  

    Does Howie have a baster fetish?

    Ethical, honest lawyers........
    
    
    isn't that an oxymoron, Topaz? 
    
    

    
    
    I think it's even a double oxymoron...ethical lawyers/honest lawyers.
    

    
    "A cynic is someone who knows the price of 
     everything and the value of nothing."
    

    
    
    "Did you wash those pants in Windex(tm), 'cuz I can 
    see myself in them."
    

    
    "If you have the law, pound the law.
     If you have the facts, pound the facts.
     If you have neither, pound the table."
    
                           Unknown
    

    "If it don't fit, you must acquit"

    "Ronald Goldman was in the wrong place at the wrong time; Nicole Brown
    Simpson was in the wrong place for a long time."

 "Journey to justice"

    Sure you can trust the government...
    
    
    
    ... ask any indian.

    "Guilty until proven famous"
    	
    			Denton

    
    <---  thought he made pants

I thought his last name was Fender, and worked for some radio show.

    "Everytime I go to take a piss in the sink, there's DIRTY DISHES IN
    THERE!"  - unknown.

    I dunno MadMike, sounds like something one of Jeff Foxworthy's
    rednecks would do :-)
    
    

    Or one of my ex flat mates :^\

    O, so she went for the breast augmentation surgery then?
    

    
    
    				(^)(^)

    
    "Government-sponsored racial discrimination based on benign prejudice
    is just as noxious as discrimination inspired by malicious prejudice. 
    In each instance, it is racial discrimination, plain and simple"

                                                    Justice Clarence Thomas

<---someone should remind him of the pubic hair

"that's not good for the paper tray, you know"

    
    	"There I am ... there I am ... there I am ..."
    

    That was funny!!   :))))

              "Freedom, for those whom fought for it, has a flavour 
                the protected will never know."

                      Author unknown

    
"Everybody wants to get inta the act!"
                             Jimmy Durante
    

"Do, or do not--but there is no try."
                             Yoda
    

    "Try?"  "Try not!"  Do or do not!"
    
    Yodels

    
    "Doo bee doo bee doo."
    
    -Frank Sinatra       
    

    
    What could be more telling than to have Kirby consider Yoda
    as a source of true wisdom... :-)
    
    -b

    
    Let's have some `Jonathan Livingston Seagull' quotes!
    

"GOT HIM!"
	- Johnathan Livingston Seagull

    
    "Give us your children until they're eight years old and you'll never
     get them back"
    
    Lenin

    
    "When in doubt, foul a freshman"
    
    Al McGuire

"Like the bee its sting, the promiscuous leave behind them in each encounter 
something of themselves by which they are made to suffer. "


Cyril Connolly (1903-1974)
British critic

    The moving finger writes; having writ,
    Moves on: nor all your piety nor wit
    Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
    Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.
    
    				Omar Khayyam

	I can run millions of dollars worth of inventory through
	my PC, but I just can't set the time.

						- fellow employee

    
    	"I gotta get some candy".
    
    
    	- fellow employee, walking down the aisle, with no one else
    	  around that would even care if he bought M&M Mars, let a-
    	  lone a candy bar
    

        Not tonight darling, I've got a headache
        - ANN BOLEYN

        I'll soon fix that
        - HENRY VIII

    Is that where the term "splitting" headache came from?
    
    Chris

    
    Heckler: I'm a Democrat.
    
    Teddy Roosevelt : May I ask the gentleman why he is a Democrat ?
    
    Heckler: My grandfather was a Democrat; my father was a Democrat; and
             I am a Democrat.
    
    Teddy Roosevelt: My friend, suppose your grandfather had been a
                     jackass and your father was a jackass, what would 
    		     you be ?
    
    Heckler: A Republican.
      

    
    "I didn't make Arkansas the butt of ridicule. God did."
    
    --- H.L. Mencken

    
    Sir Herbert Tree (acting in Richard III) : "A horse. My kingdom for a
    					        horse."
    
    Audience member : "Would a jackass do?"
    
    Sir Herbert: "Certainly. Come down and present thyself."
    

    
    "If I found her floating in my pool, I'd punish the dog."
    
    Joan Rivers, referring to Yoko Ono...

    
    ...and finally, before retiring to bed...
    
    "He was never a real Kennedy! Teddy was the Shemp of the Kennedys!
     He wasn't Moe; he wasn't Curly- he was the Kennedy Shemp!"
    
    Sam Kinnison

    
    > Heckler: I'm a Democrat.
    > 
    > Teddy Roosevelt : May I ask the gentleman why he is a Democrat ?
    > 
    > Heckler: My grandfather was a Democrat; my father was a Democrat; and
    >          I am a Democrat.
    > 
    > Teddy Roosevelt: My friend, suppose your grandfather had been a
    >                  jackass and your father was a jackass, what would 
    > 		     you be ?
    > 
    > Heckler: A Republican.
    
    He obviously didn't want to follow in his forefathers' footsteps.
    

    "Saying Windows 95 is equal to Macintosh is like finding a potato that
    looks like Jesus and believing you've witnessed the second coming."
    
    			-- Guy Kawasaki, in MACWORLD, November 1995

    It's like comparing apples and potatoes I guess.

    I've seen Macs.  They don't look anything at all like Jesus or
    Potatoes.  Anyway, why would anybody want to look at one, anyway?

    
    > I've seen Macs.  They don't look anything at all like Jesus or
    > Potatoes.  Anyway, why would anybody want to look at one, anyway?

    Well you see, people who have Macs, actually WORK on them.  I know this
    is hard for you, but computers were not meant to sit on you desk and
    just show the Windows screen saver.  HTH  ;-)

    When you walk into a room, your eyes roam about, stopping briefly on 
    every woman, and you ask yourself, 'I wonder what's she'd be like.' 
    Walking down a crowded street its the same litany, 'I wonder what she'd 
    be like.' Even when you sit, with your infant son bouncing on your
    knee, his mother, your wife standing at your shoulder, every woman you see 
    causes you to think, 'I wonder what she'd be like.' 
    
    Picasso

    it ain't the meat, it's the motion.
    
    Sippie Wallace

    Don't tell me, his nickname was "Tiny."

    you'll have to ask the sipster :-)

    Move over, Topaz.  Levesque needs it too...
    

    Read the menu, but eat at home.

    >Move over, Topaz.  Levesque needs it too...
    
     Well, it's a day that ends in -ay, isn't it?

       Picasso, obviously, never encountered Phyllis Schlafly.

    or nancy reagan, the human pez dispenser.

    
    
    Careful there Bonnie...  I used that last year about a certain,
    deceased wife of a famous ex-football player, and got my head handed to
    me by the box-rabble...

    nancy, i believe, is still with us?  (as in, not murdered?)

	Ask Brian....

    "For a producer of values, his time - every moment of his life - has a
    significance far beyond his immediate life. An hour wasted has a
    compounded effect on, in essence, everyone on this planet. For a
    producer of values, his personal life is, in actuality, public and even
    cosmic.
    
    						Y. Kimura
    						Japanese Philosopher

note Ken's comment, what a visionary he was.
    

Subject: Quotes on Foresight


     
     "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." 
     --Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of 
     science, 1949
     
     "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." 
     --Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943
     
     "I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked 
     with the  best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a 
     fad that won't   last out the year."
     --The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 
     1957
     
     "But what ... is it good for?">
     --Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 
     1968,  commenting on the microchip.
     
     "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." 
     --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital 
     Equipment Corp.,  1977
     
     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered 
     as a  means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to 
     us."
     --Western Union internal memo, 1876.
     
     "The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value.   Who 
     would pay  for a message sent to nobody in particular?"
     --David Sarnoff's associates in response to his urgings for 
     investment in  the radio in the 1920s.
     
     "The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn 
     better   than a 'C,' the idea must be feasible."
     --A Yale University management professor in response to Fred
     Smith's paper  proposing reliable overnight delivery service. (Smith 
     went on to found  Federal Express Corp.)
     
     "Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?" 
     --H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927.
     
     "I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's falling on his face and 
     not Gary  Cooper."
     --Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in 
     "Gone With  The Wind."
     
     "A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research reports 
     say  America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you 
     make."
     --Response to Debbi Fields' idea of starting Mrs. Fields' 
     Cookies.
     
     "We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out." 
     --Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.
     
     "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." 
     --Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.
     
     "If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment. The 
     literature was full of examples that said you can't do this." 
     --Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives
     for 3-M "Post-It" Notepads.
     
     "So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, 
     even  built with some of your parts, and what do you think about 
     funding us? Or we' ll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our 
     salary, we'll come work  for you.'  And they said, 'No.' So then we 
     went to Hewlett-Packard, and they  said, 'Hey, we don't need you. You 
     haven't got through college yet.'"
     --Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get 
     Atari and H-P  interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal 
     computer.
     
     "Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and 
     reaction  and the need to have something better than a vacuum against 
     which to react.   He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out 
     daily in high schools."
     --1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's 
     revolutionary rocket  work.
     
     "You want to have consistent and uniform muscle development across all 
     of  your muscles? It can't be done. It's just a fact of life. You just
      have to  accept inconsistent muscle development as an unalterable
     condition of weight  training."
     --Response to Arthur Jones, who solved the "unsolvable" 
     problem by  inventing Nautilus.
     
     "Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? 
     You're  crazy."
     --Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project 
     to drill for  oil in 1859.
     
     "Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau." 
     --Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University,
     1929.
     
     "Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value." 
     --Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole 
     Superieure de  Guerre.
     
     "Everything that can be invented has been invented." 
     --Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 
     1899.
     
     "Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction". 
     --Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872
     
     "The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the 
     intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon".
     --Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon- 
     Extraordinary  to Queen Victoria 1873.
     
     "640K ought to be enough for anybody." 
     -- Bill Gates, 1981

    
    
    	"Watch it son or I'll twist yer head around so your cap faces the
    right way..."
    
    
    read in some magazine.
    
    

    "The only difference between this place and the Titantic, is the
    Titantic had a band."
    
    Seen posted beside the door of a local business.

They prolly spelled the name correctly on the ship.

    
    "If it was me, I would have left at 11:30"
    
    			Young boy speaking on 
    			the movie "Cinderella"

    
    "If you can't be handsome, you can at least be handy."
    
    "You can't stay young, but you can stay immature."
    
    					- Red Green
    

"You're not John Cunningham.  John Cunningham is tall and handsome."

	- Wang security guard to Sr. VP John Cunningham who had 
	  forgotten his ID badge.  

	  (This security guard was later given an award for 
	   enforcement of the rule barring entrance to the 
	   facility without an ID badge.  The award included
	   an autographed photo of John Cunningham.)

    
    how about quotes you'de like to see.
    
    " You're not Bob Palmer. Bob Palmer dresses much better than that."
    
    - soon to be unemployed security guard, upon asking for Palmer's Id.

    "You're not Bob Palmer.  Bob Palmer's hair doesn't move."
    
    - Another soon-to-be-unemployed security guard, asking for ID

    "Gawd are you EVER ugly!"
    
    - A security guard going out in a blaze of glory.

    
    	My Dad used to get that garbage from the security guards, too.
    
    	Meanwhile, some guy was probably walking out of the Mill with 
    	boards in his briefcase...
    
    

    Your Dad worked in a sawmill?

    
    	{pinch}

    youch!

    
    your dad was CEO??

    	"America must choose peace."
    
    	  - President General William Jefferson Patton Eisenhower Clinton

    
    	He has, in his lifetime, been a CEO.
    
    

    
    funny Karen, when I was working security at Walgreen's corporate
    headquarters in my pre-Dec days. I was reading the business section,
    when this tall gentleman with godawful plaid pants came up and 
    signed in. As he turned to leave, I poliely asked him for his badge,
    he turned and gave me a surprised look, but produced said badge. It
    was the president. I smiled and gave him his badge back, he gave me a
    dirty look and left. I was thinking, god they don't pay this man enough
    money, to wear ugly pants like that, even on a Saturday.

    
    	Mark,
    
    	I'm sure it wasn't because of my Dad's clothes.  He was a pretty
    	sharp dresser.  However, he had been working at the Mill nearly
    	20 years when this particular incident occured.
    

    Had one of the flay rods gone out of skew on the treadle?

    
    Karen
    
    on the other hand, security people on make $6.00 or so an hour, maybe
    he got a jerk. I always treated everyone the same, maybe that's why
    I was in security for 3 + years. :-) 
    
    P.S. I wnt o jr high and high school with the chairman's kids.

    For Glenn:
    
    "Here's Uncle Ted coming 'round the back of the house, but
    you can still see the side of the house."
    

    just remembered this from high school. myself and two other cohorts
    were in the principle's office for screwing around in gym class.
    
    the vp comes to me and asked what i was there for. I told him i didn't
    do anything. then he goes to my friend Fran and asks him the same
    question and Fran responds with my position. the he goes to Paul (the
    real guilty part) and asks him what he's doing there. he resonds, "I'm
    a victim of circumstance". both Fran and myself just blew up laughing
    our heads off. both the response and our lack of decorum was much un-
    appreciated by the vp. 
    
    i'll just never forget that... :-)

    How about that haircut, huh?  Looks like Rod Steiger in
    one a dem Roman movies.

    major nit:
    
    yes, our contract folks don't get paid very much.  most of them in the
    maynard area are pretty good, tho.  as for being asked to show your
    badge, well, it may not be an exciting job, but that is part of the
    job.  shall i complain when i catch you doing yours?  even tho you've
    been doing it for 20 years?

    Not to mention the fact that a number of people who've worked here for
    more than 20 years were given the heave ho.

    
    	Sorry 'tine, I was only joking.
    
    	For the particular incident my Dad told me about, this was
    	the usual security guard.  At that time, Digital had never
    	had a layoff.  
    

    They had no unusual security guards back then?

    	Well, they might have, but they weren't working that day.
    
    	Karen
    

re .412/.418/.420:

Your dad is Ken Olsen?

    
    	Nope.
    
    	Nice try, though!
    
    

     "Crime is not only a complete disavowal of the social con-
     tract, but also a commandeering of the victim's person and
     liberty.... It is, in fact, an act of enslavement."

Another hard-hitting quote:

     "Crime is rampant because the law-abiding, each of us,
     condone it, excuse it, permit it, submit to it.  We permit
     and encourage it, because we do not fight back, immediately,
     then and there, where it happens....  The defect is there,
     in our character.  We are a nation of cowards ..."

Jeffrey Snyder in the scholarly journal Public Interest. 
a piece called "A Nation of Cowards."
    

    we're all a bunch of wussies.

    hey, hey Jim & I carry...

    
    
    	yup...:)
    
    

    it doesn't matter.  the wussies outnumber you.

    
    but I have plenty of ammo....should that offset it somehow? ;*)
    
    

    but how much ammo can you carry around with you?  it's heavy.
    it's not like you can keep it in your wallet or something.

    Oh yes you can.....

    i think a-l-l the wussies would be quite surprised (not pleasantly).

    quite surprised about what?  wallet ammo?  c'mon cue me
    in.  what's the password?  i already _know_ what green 
    death is.  

    
    I have a little 25acp pistol whose magazines will fit in my wallet. In
    the event of social mayhem, I have the AR-15 I could pack around I
    suppose (with about 500rds loaded into magazines in my backpack). :)
    
    
    jim

    
    	Jim, do you have one of those belts that you can slide bullets
    	into the loops of the belt?
    

    
    I don't know about Jim, but I have a 9MM Beretta with 16 rounds
    in the pipe that occupies one side of a shoulder harness and
    two more magazines with 15 rounds each stored in the other side.
    And that's what I carry when I'm in a good mood.
    
    -b

    
    
    	re: belt
    
    	nope, don't have a std six-shooter belt. It's on my christmas
    list...
    
    re: brian
    
    	you need a couple of magazine holders for your belt too...;*)
    
    
    jim

    My ARG came in from Mitch Rosen.
    
    Worth the five month wait and twice the money.  Betwixt the left and
    right sides, I can only pack 38 rounds, plus one, but I don't do the
    plus one.  Anyway, it can't be seen under a denim shirt.  Very nice.
    
    Cool.

So are the 46 rounds for everyday use, Bri, or just for visits to
Roxbury?

    get out it can't be seen under a denim shirt!  i bet it's 
    wicked lumpy.

   > So are the 46 rounds for everyday use, Bri, or just for visits to
   > Roxbury?
    
    Nah, that's just for when I feel like traveling light! :-)
    
    -b

    "Thinking is like loving and dying -- each of us must do it for
    himself." -- Josiah Royce

    my .40 S&W usually accompanies me (never complains either). of course,
    after my income tax check comes back i'm going to pick up a nice ss
    Colt Pocket Light.
    
    wallet? wallet? i don't neeeeeeed no steekeeng wallet! :-)

>    wallet? wallet? i don't neeeeeeed no steekeeng wallet! :-)

You shop with your gun?

    only when i'm short of cash :-)

 Memorable quotes, peoples, memorable quotes!

    it is a tale told by an idiot,
    full of sound and fury
    signifying nothing.

Soapbox?

    MacBeth?

    
    	Could be "Cabin Boy", too.
    

    
    
    	Oh drat!  I *know* that line.......  
    

    
    
    	Oooh!  yes, it's from "Frankenstein"
    

    
    life
    

	life is correct.
	a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage ..

    life it is.  been thinking about life a lot lately.
    it's a funny thing.  some people have the stomach for
    it, some people don't.

>    life it is.  been thinking about life a lot lately.
>    it's a funny thing.  some people have the stomach for
>    it, some people don't.

  some people have the stomach for thinking about life?

    well, and that too.  i guess.  and some people don't.

    "Greater than the tread of mighty armies is an idea whose time has
    come." 
    
                        Victor Hugo, 1852 
                        Histoire d'un Crime 

    
    "The fact that your voice is amplified to the degree where it reaches
    from one end of the country to the other does not confer upon you
    greater wisdom or understanding than you possessed when your voice
    reached only from one end of the bar to the other."
    
    						- Edward R. Morrow, 1965
    

    
    "The more you live, the less you die." (tm)
    

"Indecision is the cornerstone of flexibility."

    "There is in fact a true law -- namely, right reason -- which is in
    accordance with nature, applies to all men, and is unchangeable and 
    eternal. By its commands this law summons men to the performance of their 
    duties; by its prohibitions it restrains them from doing wrong. Its 
    commands and prohibitions always influence good men, but are without effect
    upon the bad. To invalidate this law by human legislation is never morally 
    right, nor is it permissible ever to restrict its operation, and to annul 
    it wholly is impossible. Neither the  senate nor the people can absolve us 
    from our obligation to obey this law, and it requires no Sextus Aelius to 
    expound and interpret it. It will not lay down one rule at Rome and another
    at Athens, nor will it be one rule today and another tomorrow." 
    
    
    Cicero, 51 BC
    
    

    "When in doubt, pull your pants down." (tm)

<---I take it that you ALWAYS are doubtless when your boss is around... 

    It's only a quote.

	Uh huh.....

    Really!

    It's not a way of life or a philosophy or a creed or anything.

	Uh huh... ;-)

    Well, I mean, when I'm being serious I don't seriously behave this way.
    
    Seriously!

	You lost credibility right when you said seriously. :-)


Glen

    When it's time to collect the wages of sin, some of us will collect
    time and a half.
    
    
    Flip Wilson, 1989
    

    I wish I could see Flip do "Geraldine" again - trivia question - what
    was her boyfriends name?

Aha - *that's* where I picked up the phrase "not tonight, Geraldine".  
I couldn't remember _who_ used to say it though - sorry.


\C

    Killa! (Killer)...

    <----   correct! (as in, "Killa's gonna get you, sucka!")

    "A good-faith misunderstanding of the law or a good faith belief that on 
    is not violating the law negates willfulness, whether or not the claimed 
    belief or misunderstanding is objectively reasonable. Statutory 
    willfulness, which protects the average citizen from prosecution for
    innocent mistakes made due to the complexity of the tax laws. United States
    c. Murdock, 290 U.S. 389, is the voluntary, intentional violation of a 
    known legal duty." 
    
    United States Supreme Court
    United States v. Pomponio,
    429 U.S. 10.
    
    
    
    

        <---- boy, I'm going to squirrel *that* away!

    
    I'm going to have it tattooed on my buttocks.
    

    Do you have the requisite skin area, or are you going to have to write
    small? :-)

    
    I think there's room; I'm just deciding on the font.
    

    
    	It's kind of hard to see that area, though, isn't it?
    
    	Unless you have it tattooed backwards and read it in a mirror.
    	But it could be difficult to see unless you happen to carry a
    	mirror around, and potentially embarrassing depending on where
    	you are when you're trying to remember the formula.
    

    It's not polite to font.

    
    Dropping trou could be very informative to those around at the time...
    

    And a well timed font will round out the experience.

    
    >	It's kind of hard to see that area, though, isn't it?
    
    >	Unless you have it tattooed backwards and read it in a mirror.
    >	But it could be difficult to see unless you happen to carry a
    >	mirror around, and potentially embarrassing depending on where
    >	you are when you're trying to remember the formula.
    

    But half the fun is getting other people to read it for you...
    
    -b

    
    ... and I forgot to mention that it's also useful in the heat
    of discussion to be able to point at your ass and say "Read
    this!"
    
    -b

Waitaminute!  What good is U.S. case law tattooed on a Canadian's behind?

    
    Good advertising?
    

    
    You could always put it on the front of your ass.
    
    -b

    
                                I'm a lawyer!
                 *        (__) /
                  \       (oo)
                   \-------\/ 
                  * |     ||  
                 *  ||W---||  
                **  ~~    ~~  

    
    

	Joan, I will GLADLY tattoo your but for ya!

    Yeah, he's got the needle for it.

    Do NOT tattoo the front of your ass. It's just not done!

    
    <----- well these last few sure have been memorable.

    
    "Do NOT tattoo the front of your ass. It's just not done!"
    
    POLAR::RICHARDSON 

       "OK, that's not even the dictionary definition; my dictionary
    	doesn't have it. Nevertheless, English being the flexible
    	language it is, we can create this word."
    
    		- A loon on the Web, justifying his creation of
    		  the new word "herpetophile"
    

       "Strictly speaking, a herpetophile is one who views reptiles
    	favorably.  Alternatively, it means one who enjoys (or would
    	enjoy) sexual and loving relations with reptiles, existent,
    	extinct, or mythical."
    
    		- The same loon who was quoted in 71.506,
    		  in case you were wondering about the definition
    

    
    	"If there is retributive justice, he'll get AIDS from a
    	 transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it."
    
    
    				Nina Totenberg talking about Jesse Helms.

    
    	"I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies 
    	 early, like many black men do, of heart disease.... Well that's
    	 how I feel. He is an absolutely reprehensible person."
    
         		Jullanne Malveaux of Radio Pacifica talking
    			about SCJ Clarence Thomas. 

    .506:
    
    A neologistic tour de farce

    
    
    No hate talk there, eh Hank?  Some of that stuff is brutal.

    
    Isn't that something Mike?
    And the liberals claim that the repubs are mean spirited.
    
    Here's another...
    
    "The evaporation of four million people who believe this crap
     would leave the world an instantly better place."
    
    			Andre Codrescu in an NPR  commentary the week
    			before Christmas, talking about Christians
    			and their beliefs.
    
    
    Interestingly, NPR noted that Codrescu's comments "crossed
    the line of taste and tolerance."
    Now there's a scathing rebuttal. If that crosses the line, I'd
    sure as hell hate to see some hate speech.
    
    							Hank

    
    
    > Some of that stuff is brutal.
    
    No.. not really... it's just like racism...
    
    Since liberals aren't "enpowered" anymore, it's okay to say those
    things and get away with it...
    

    .512
    
    > talking about Christians
    
    Actually, talking about the subset of self-proclaimed Christians who
    continually predict that the Rapture is coming on such and such a date
    this year, or next year, or whenever.  Fact is that the Bible makes it
    clear that no human knows or will know when the Rapture is to come. 
    Therefore, anyone who posits a date for the Rapture is automatically
    wrong and is, in addition, saying that God is a liar - which makes all
    such people not-Christian.

    
    >saying that God is a lier - which makes all such people not-Christian.
    
    Nice, neat little package there Dick...
    
    Or are you wanting some of "us" to think...?
    
    
    BTW.. he may be lying down somewhere up there...
    

    
    Too late Dick... gotcha!!
    

    .515
    
    > Or are you wanting some of "us" to think...?
    
    Merely pointing out that it is possible for someone to say that he is
    something that he is not.  A believer in God's Word believes that God
    does not lie; if God says we can't know when the Rapture will hit, it
    is clear: by definition, we can't know when the Rapture will hit.  If
    you choose to claim that God is lying, then you aren't a believer.  I
    think it's pretty straightforward, don't you?
    
    .516
    
    Got what?  Check the timestamps, boyo.

    
    
    My "neat" comment was, you're not giving these "non-Christians" any
    sort of benefit of the doubt... which seems to go against your grain of
    giving else one, not matter what the circumstances...
    
    
    But that's okay.... as long as you made me think...
    
    re: timestamps...
    
     Don't care... I caught you... that's all that matters to me...
    
     :)
    

    
    
>    Interestingly, NPR noted that Codrescu's comments "crossed
>    the line of taste and tolerance."
>    Now there's a scathing rebuttal. If that crosses the line, I'd
>    sure as hell hate to see some hate speech.
    
 
     NPR only offered that statement after Ralph Reed (Christian Coalition)
     voiced his indignation.  Had Ralph Reed made such an intolerant statement
     (and I am not a fan of Ralph Reed or the CC) we would be hearing about it
     for weeks.  There was very little mention of this in the major media.



 Jim

Ralph Reed is a public figure.  Andre Codrescu is merely a pretentious
commentator.  I do the radio equivalent of "next unseen" when he comes on.

"The moon is more useful than the sun, because it gives light during the night 
when it is dark, whereas the sun shines only in the daytime when it is light
anyway."

                                                  George Gamow

    
    	Wow.
    
    	Is he running for VP this year?  I'd vote for him.
    

"I've always thought that underpopulated countries in Africa are vastly
underpolluted."
        -- Lawrence Summers, chief economist of the World Bank, explaining
           why we should export toxic wastes to Third World countries.

    re: .514
    
    I'm not sure if it makes them non-Christian, but it DOES make them
    wrong.
    
    
    -steve

    >>                                              George Gamow
    
    I had a paperback "science for the masses" book on gravitation by
    him, back when I was a teenager.  He seemed like a cool guy, at least
    by scientist standards.
    
    Chris

Just ran across this one:

"Never argue with a man who buys ink by the gallon."
- Benj Franklin

  Every time you think, you weaken the Nation.
                            M. Howard

                      I resemble that remark!
                                       C. Howard

   A fine place for wires.

	- M. Howard

    I'd rather go to Tunis that way we can have Tunis sandwiches for
    lunch..OUCH!!!
    
    J. Horowitz, aka C. Howard

    Hey Toots!
    
    	- Howard the Duck
    

    
    	I loved that movie!!
    
    	Interesting [?] fact of the day:
    
    	I happened to look up Lea Thompson's name in a movie WWW site, and
    	found out that were 8 different actors who wore the Howard suit
    	during that movie.
    

"Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the
Argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves"

						William Pitt

Without comment:

    Elie Wiesel in his book, Legends of Our Time:

	"Every Jew, somewhere in his being, should set apart a zone of
	 hate--healthy, virile hate--for what the German personifies and
	 for what persists in the German."

	"That isn't writing; it's typing."


		   (anyone else here know who said it and the reference?)

    Truman Capote

  oh, he's good.

    
    	Colin, or Truman?
    

  had i meant Truman, i'd have said, "oh, he was good."

    They told me that stuff would rot my brain.

    
  >had i meant Truman, i'd have said, "oh, he was good."
    
    
    	Good point.
    
    	Battis would have said "oh he wa's good".
    

Didn't Trumy say it about Jack Kerouac?

  .542 yes, indeedy.  you guys are wickit smaht.

    Not relly.  I had to luke it up after one of my buks was eddited and
    it was writ in the margarine.                                      

"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."

						Frank Zappa

    "Religion is a great force - the only real motive force in the world.
    But you must get at a man through his own religion, not yours."
    
    				- George Bernard Shaw

    "Watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow."
    
                                   - Frank Zappa

    "I don't know if I'm ignorant or apathetic and I don't care."
    
    Anon.

    "My dog is living proof that true happiness comes in black and white."

    							- Me

    "The truly ignorant will believe anything without question."
    
    						- proverb
    

  .550  even that?

    "Sacred cows make the best hamburger."  -- Mark Twain

    Yes I eat cow, I am not proud."  - Curt Cobain

    "...but i'm dead now."
    
                              - Curt Cobain

    
    	That's "Kurt", BTW.
    

    isn't thre a Kurt Cobain test somewhere?

| <<< Note 71.556 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "I sawer that" >>>

| isn't thre a Kurt Cobain test somewhere?


	It's called the Brady bill.

    
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                  / |     || \ 
                 *  ||W---|| *GASP*! 
                    ~~    ~~  

    

                                bite me.
			  (__) /  
                          (oo)   
                        +--\/--+
                       /)\ SC /(\
                       \| \  / |/
                        ~ (  ) ~
                          /WW\ 
                         //  \\
                         |    |
                         ~    ~

                                        

    
    
    	hehehe....:)
    

    What would a Super Bull look like I wonder.

    
    >What would a Super Bull look like I wonder.
    
    What??
    
    You've never seen a poster of Michael Jordan???
    

    (K)urt (C)urt...no matter, he still dead and he was still doing
                    CL.

    He vould haff ein enormous schwanstucker, hein?

   oof.

	"...comparing the sex drive to the tide is a phallacy."

						- Our Jack Martin

The next time you scoff at someone's idea........


"Drill for oil?  You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil?
You're crazy."
 --drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for 
oil

in 1859

"Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction."
 --Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872

"The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the
intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon."
 --Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary 
to Queen Victoria, 1873

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
 --Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895

"Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value."
 --Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole
Superieure de Guerre

"Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and
reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum
against which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge
ladled out daily in high schools."
 --1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket
work.

"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously
considered as a means of communication.  The device is inherently
of no value to us."
 --Western Union internal memo, 1876

"The wireless music box has no imagineable commercial value.  Who would
pay for a message sent to nobody in particular?"
 --David Sarnoff's associates in response to his urgings for investment in 
the radio in the 1920's

"Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"
 --H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927

"I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's falling on his face and
not Gary Cooper."
 --Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in
"Gone With The Wind".

"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau." --Irving
Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929

"Everything that can be invented has been invented." --Charles M. Duel

"You want to have consistent and uniform muscle development across all of
your muscles?  It can't be done.  It's just a fact of life.  You just have to
accept inconsistent muscle development as an unalterable condition of weight
training."
 --response to Arthur Jones, who solved the "unsolveable" problem by 
inventing the Nautilus (Exercise Equipment)

"The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn
better than a 'C', the idea must be feasible."
 --a Yale University management professor in response to Fred Smith's paper
proposing reliable overnight delivery service.  Smith went on to found
Federal Express Corp.

"If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment.  The
literature was full of examples that said you can't do this." --Spencer
Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives for 3-M "Post-it"
Notepads. 
(And in fact, his experiment failed. He was looking for a super glue... ).

"A cookie store is a bad idea.  Besides, the market research reports say
America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you
make."
 --response to Debbi Fields' idea of starting Mrs. Fields' Cookies.

"We don't like their sound and guitar music is on the way out." --Decca
Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
 --Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943

"Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons."
 --Popular Mechanics,1949, forecasting the relentless march of science

"I have travelled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the 

best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a
fad that won't last out the year."
 --the editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957

"So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, even 
built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us? Or
we'll
give it to you.  We just want to do it.  Pay our salary, we'll come work for 
you.'  And they said, 'No.'  So then we went to Hewlett-Packard and they
said, 
'Hey, we don't need you.  You haven't got through college yet.'"
 --Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari
and H-P interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal computer.

"but what....is it good for?"
 --engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968,
commenting on the microchip

"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
 --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp, 1977

"640K ought to be enough for anybody."
 --Bill Gates, 1981





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"Am I a potted plant?"  -- OJ's lead lawyer, on OJ ignoring his pleas not to
talk to the press.

 "how many kids have joined gangs because of the graduated income tax?"

   
                 Alan Keyes (paraphrased) discussing what he sees as the 
                 issues in the 1996 presidential campaign.




Jim

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry
off as if nothing had happened"

Dr. Max B. Gerson, 1958

    
    	Substitute "'BOXers" for "men" and it explains ALOT.
    

    a lot.
    
    nnttmha

    
    	Yeah, well, I guess it explains that too.
    

>    	Substitute "'BOXers" for "men" and it explains ALOT.
    
surely you mean `substitute `men' for `'boxers''?  Haven't you ever used sed?

Chris.

    
    	No, that'd be
    
    	REPLACE "men" WITH "'BOXers".
    

>    	No, that'd be
>    
>    	REPLACE "men" WITH "'BOXers".

no it wouldn't, it'd be `sed -e "s/men/'boxers/g"'  So there.

Chris.

    
    	I've never used sed, whatever that is, so I was commenting on
    	the order of terms that you suggested ... and, in turn, sug-
    	gesting the syntax in which to use those terms in your desired
    	order.
    

>    	I've never used sed, whatever that is, so I was commenting on
>    	the order of terms that you suggested ... and, in turn, sug-
>    	gesting the syntax in which to use those terms in your desired
>    	order.

sed is a particularly groovy utility of the particularly groovy Unix operating 
system, and is yet another way of proving that there's not much point in these 
poncey graphical user interfaces when such user friendly and intuitive 
facilities already exist.

Chris.

    
    	Unix ... isn't that a recognizable obscenity?
    

    
    	re -1
    
    	only if you say "grep" in an AOL chat-box....