Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    Live After Death of course.  If you've seen them in concert,
    just listen to it, clothes your eyes and you're there.
    Feel the bass pound through your flesh, and the squealing of 
    the guitars slide across your skin, and the ringing of madness
    rattling through you're head.  
    
    Yeah, Iron Maiden.................

    My fav has gotta be Piece of Mind. I love the Trooper, Die With
    Your Boots on , Still Life, Sun and Steel, and all the others.
    I once did a term paper on the effects of war in modern poetry and
    the TROOPER was my central theme.
    
    UP THE IRONS 
    
              the devil dog

    
    My fav has to be POWERSLAVE I can't think of any songs on it 
    that I don't like.even though Bruce Dickinsons on the album.
    
                                   M
                                    B

    
    Yes I believe you but.
    I like the sound of D'ianno much more yhan the sound of Bruce's
    Bruce always sounds like he's straining. maybe it's me
    
                                     M
                                      B
    

    
    	About D'ianno, if you listen to the Maiden Japan EP you'll see
    how croaky his vioce got towards the end of his Iron Maiden career.
    This was brought on entirely by self through too much booze and
    smoking.  Harry just got so pissed off with him that he booted him
    out.  Bruce had already been hired before D'ianno's D-day.
    	Sanctuary, Phantom, Murders in the Rue Morgue, 22, Where Eagles
    Dare, Aces High, Stranger, The Prophecy rate as among the best Iron
    Maiden stuff, all albums are great.
    
    
    So it shall be written,
    So it shall be done,
    				Darron.

    
    
    Heard a rumor that Maiden should be around New England sometime in
July.  And guess who's rumored to be supporting them.... Quennsryche!
Now that you're all awake....
    
    
    Paul
            

    
    Well, before Bruce joined Maiden he was in a mate of mines 
    Band - Samson. I know Paul Samson from our local Radio Station 
    (Radion 210), where my mother works as a librarian.  Thats where
    I get all my records from - FREE!!
    
    Check out "Head Tactics" if you're a BD fanatic.
      
    KR
    -T

    
    
    	On "The Number of the Beast", at the beginning of "the Prisoner"
    there is some excerpt from a movie or something. Anyone know what
    that's from??
    
    /Motorbreath
    
    

    
    
    	Re14/15:
    		Yes it's from the opening sequence of  "The Prisoner".
    
    Keep On Rockin,
    			Darron.

    
    	Shock Horrors!!!
    	A recent rumour that I've just heard is that after this tour
    the band are splitting.  The main reason seems to be that Steve
    'arry Harris wants to spend much more time with his wife and children.
    
    In Mourning we Trust,
    			Darron.

                When somebody hears when Maiden tickets are going
                on sale for  Providence,  please  let me know.  I
                need time to talk to my Ticketron buddy (now that
                Worcester is Ticket Master - oh well).
                

    Does anyone know for sure who will be backing up IM
    when they come to either Prov. or Centrum??
    I've heard Queensryche or Frehley. 
    Hope Bruce is in good form. Havn't seen em since
    World Slavery tour. Up the Irons!!!
    
    -Rey

                
                How is  it?  I haven't bothered to buy it yet.  I
                was a big time IM fan until Somewhere in Time.  I
                bought it the day  it  came  out,  and  was  VERY
                disappointed (it was stolen a  week  later).   Is
                the  newest one similar, or does  it  sound  like
                older Maiden?  Would you rank it  up  there with,
                say,  Piece of Mind (which is a great  album)  or
                along  with  Powerslave  (which was a pretty good
                album), better or worse?
                
                - Rob
                

    
                          
    Its a very different Maiden album.  Dickinsons voice, whilst still
    very good, is starting to sound like everybody elses.
                          
    A dissapointing album and NOWHERE NEAR as good as "Powerslave",
    or my fav. Maiden album "Killers".  
         
    -Tony

    I also agree that it is one of the best Maiden albums going.
    I can't wait for July 17 @ 8:45pm- Thats when Maiden will take the
    stage at the Centrum. Front row action here I come.
    
    Any one else headed for the show?
    

    Yo Maidenheads !
    	Is there any truth to the rumor raised in another reply about
    this being Maiden's last tour ?  I think they have a LOT of good
    years left in them.
    	I also heard too that Dokken was hanging it up after Monsters
    because Georgie and Donnie can't play together nicely anymore, that's
    why the double live LP would be released, no more new stuff.  Enquiring
    minds want to know ........................
    
    
    
    				Mr Scary II

    I think Shehan in Maiden would be like mixing apples and oranges.
    That's not really his style, and anyone else playing bass than Harris
    just wouldn't be "Maiden" ya know ?  I think Maiden would go through
    the same changes Van Halen did when what's his name split.  We'd
    be talkin' "Old Maiden or New Maiden", they'd be a new band with
    an old name.
    
    
    				Mr Scary II

    RE:  -1
    
    I agree Iron Maiden is Steve's baby - I doubt that they could 
    replace him and use the same name.
    
    Philippa

   Yo Maidenheads !
    
    I never really got off on Maiden until the other day (or was it
    last week ?)... I plugged in a CD of Number Of The Beast and I think
    it was the second cut... I think it was called "Children Of The Damned"

    ...Damn, that song smoked !  I loved it !  It was a good mixture
    of ballad, and head-bangin' stuff.
    
    Do me a favor, if someone has the inclination (Pete ?) or the
    motivation, please publish those words here, so that 2EZ can do
    that tune...
    jc

    
    Yo JC,
    
    It's illegal to publish copywrited lyrics in a public conference.
    
    

    Well, send 'em too me then, Sheeesh!

    
        Thank you, wjb ... I was ready to type in my customary
        speech again. 8^)
    
        If anyone has the words to the aforementioned song, and
        feels so inclined as to send them to Mr. JC, then please
        either use VAXmail or an internal mail envelope.
    
        Thank you.
    
                                                     Shawn GTI
    

    re: .40
    
    I was wondering about that song.  Our bass player would be in knots
    and I don't know who would sing it, other than that, we could probably
    scald it !!!
    
    
    
    				Mr Scary II
    

    
    
    	What I can gather from the U.K. music press is that this really
    is Maiden's last tour.  Mind you, they aren't right all the time.
    
    In Mourning we Trust,
    			Darron.

    
    
    	I read in the paper yesterday that Steve Harris collapsed on
    stage recently, what happened???
    
    Darron.

    This was the best concert of the year so far.
    Unbelievable-Awesome-Any great adjective you can think of.
    
    Since I work at the Centrum I have any seat in the house at any
    given time. I took center stage 4 rows back and had the best seat.
    At 7:25 Frehley's Comet began there horrible set. By 8:15 they were
    on there bus and headed out of town. 
    
    At 8:45 Maiden touched down on the stage. The stage was made up
    to resemble the album cover. The artwork was great.
    
    They opened with Moonchild-and ended one hour and 45 min later with
    Running Free- In between they had 13 songs-
    
    Evil That Men Do
    Infinite Dreams- The best song of the nite
    Can I Play With Madness
    Heaven Can Wait
    The Clairvoyant
    The Number of the Beast
    Wasted Years
    Iron Maiden
    Run to the Hills 
    2 Min to Midnite
    The Trooper* I think
    Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
    And One more I can't remember
    
    The props were very well done with various ingenuity
    They had a twenty foot Eddie with mechanical movements that blew
    the crowd away- everything moved
    The only down faults were :
    No 8 foot high walking Eddie
    And No lasers- I talked with a roadie earlier in the day and he
    mentioned that it was broke-
    For sound and clarity a numero uno- everything was state of the art
    computer controlled sound. 
    
    I highly recommend anyone to see this show tomorrow nite in Providence-
    I know for a fact they will have a few changes in schedule.
    The original show consisted of 18 songs but because of time limits
    at the Centrum and only 6,000 tix sold they only performed 15 songs.
    And a few props were not used including a baby Eddie fetus which
    I saw before Maiden took the stage.
    
    As I mentioned before - this show is the surprising show of '88
     
    

                
                Yeah, but pyrotechnics are legal in RI.
                
                I  thought  IM  was  an  okay  show  compared  to
                previous years.   It  certainly  did  not compare
                with Powerslave or POM tours.  I don't know about
                the Harris thing, but he  didn't  pass out when I
                saw him.  
                

    He didn't flop to the ground in Worcester either.
    

    
    	   For all you Iron Maiden fans out there, I just read
    	an interview in The Houston Post which states that
    	they will be taking a two-year hyatus after they 
    	finish the 'Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son' tour.
    
    		"We're going to take a couple of years
    		off between albums, so we'll have a lot
    		of time to spend with our families and
    		enjoy a normal way of life," said Dave
    		Murray.  "Staying in hotels every day
    		can wear a bit thin, but it does go 
    		along with the job."
    
    	   If anyone REALLY wants me to, I can enter the
    	rest of the interview later this evening... but it's
    	mostly about how tough life on the road is, and 
    	doesn't give any insights into the future projects
    	the band will be working on.
    
    	-=[MOSAT]=-

    Anyone ever notice that While Maiden is an awesome band (and I love
    them more every time I listen), that Steve Harris seems to drag
    the rest of the band along ?  That guy is so awesome (IMO) that
    the other boize can't keep up !  Steve Harris blows me away.  
    
    BTW - Before I get flamed, I don't mean that IM plays out of time
    or anything, but just that SH seems so much better than everybody
    else !
    
    Just my $.02, for what it's worth...
    jc

    
        RE: JC
    
                Well, I don't know - in a way you're right, since he
                DOES write most/all the material.
    
                But Murray/Smith is the best guitar team I've ever
                heard.
    
                                                       GTI

    Yep !  No doubt.  I don't think that either is phenominal, but
    together, they are almost as good as Skeotch and Hannon !
    
    jc

                Who are almost as good as Icon . . .
                
                

    Anybody get into the tune 22 Acacia Avenue ?
    
    Ever know anyone like Charlotte ?
    
    I can really get into that tune...My neighbors hate me because of
    it !
    
    w3jc

    I used to come home from school and play TNOTB constantly until
    it was time to turn in. Saints'n'Sinners and Back In Black got
    some airplay too but not as much. TNOTB is my favourite Iron Maiden
    opus and '22....' is one of their classics. Interestingly enough
    Steve Harris said that of all the albums they have released TNOTB
    is the album that has a number of tracks that he isn't happy with
    and would like to re-do. I wonder which ones and why.??!!
                       
    "Children Of the Daaaaammnneedd........"
    
    Prince Of The Dawn.

    I think I'll put that tune in for a good one to listen too when
    your bummin'...

    jc

    Well, none the less... I like ole' Charlotte...
    
    22 Acacia Ave is for sure a good tune...
    
    dig-it

    Well ?
    
    We're waiting !
    ;^)
    
    Let's hear it !
    jc

    If anybody wants to see Eddie getting killed then its on video for
    all to see!
    Its on a video called "12 Wasted Years". I don't know if its available
    in the USA.
    
    cheers
    Mark
    P.S I have the music for the first 5 Maiden albums and on the music
    	for Charlott the Harlot its says it was written by Murray and
    	Harris - Could be a mistake though!

    Although not Maiden's greatest fan, I must admit that I do have
    a Favorite. Iron Maiden. The reason is very simple, I saw Maiden
    for the first time in a small club in Aberdeen, Scotland. Before
    they had released their first album. They were at that time the
    biggest kick ass band in the U.K.
    
    I have since saw Maiden support Judas Priest on the British Steel
    tour, and would have rated them as good as if not better than priest
    on that occasion. 
    
    
    	So thats my fav.
    
    		Kick it and see,
    
    
    
    				BONZO.

    I've just bought the Iron Maiden '12 wasted years' video - is it
    any good?
    
    Pip

    You tell us !  You bought it !
    
    ;^)
    jc

    I've only just (ie 3 hours ago) bought the video, but I'll give
    you a review of it tomorrow.
    
    Pip

    
    HELLOOOOOOOO PHILLIPA !!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Iron Maiden video eh ???
    
    where do you work ??? ;-)

    This is just a quick review of "12 Wasted Years" as I haven't got
    much time and its been a long time since I seen it.
    
    The video consists of live cuts, promo videos and interviews with
    the band and people who work with the band eg Derek Riggs.
    It tells the story of the band from when they started in 1977 up
    until the 'Somewhere in Time' era.
    There's a live clip from a club gig in 1980 where the quality of
    the picture and sound are the same as the metallica video.
    There's also a clip of the band jamming at a wedding in Poland when
    they were on the Piece of Mind tour.
    
    Brilliant video for any Maiden fan who wants to know the real history
    of the band.
    
    cheers
    Casper
    
    P.S. To anybody who has seen the video - do you think that Derek
    	 Riggs is MAD or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    
    
    I'd rather not read through all 80 replies, so is there a full list of
    Iron Maiden albums?  And is it true that some albums were only released
    in England?  And if there isn't a full list would someone please enter
    one?  Thanks in advance.
    
    
    						Dr Pizza Guy    <)
    
    

        Hey Pete:
    
            I heard the Tull version of 'Cross-Eyed Mary' last
            night and was reminded of this question ...
    
            Was there a 'Piece of Mind' EP that included this song?
            I have the song recorded, but the tape's not the best and
            I'd like to get the song on record.  Any leads?
    
            Thanks for any info.
    
                                                       GTI

    I have the Trooper single and Cross Eyed Mary is on the B-side.
    I'm in the UK so I don't know if its the same as in the states.
    
    There isn't any extra albums released in Britain but there are extra
    tracks on the first two albums on the Japanese releases. I think the Killers
    album contains the "Twilight zone" whereas the british release doesn't.
    
    cheers Mark

    There are tons of bootleg live and compilation albums out that i
    have seen at record fairs. Also i have three albums in picture disc
    , although i am led to believe that all have  been released in coloured
    vinyl or picture disc. I also have all their picture disc singles.
    
    Prince Of The Dawn.

    I guess if what i have seen is anything to go by, there are at least
    two/three live bootleg albums out for every world tour they have
    done. I have seen at least five for the Piece Of Mind tour. I have
    TNOTB, SSOASS and Powerslaves in Picture Discs but i have seen Killers
    and Iron Maiden in Picture discs also and TNOTB in Red Vinnyl.
    
    Prince Of The Dawn.

                             *** IRON MAIDEN ***
                                12TH DECEMBER
                              HAMMERSMITH ODEON

	Now this wasn't the best concert I've ever been to, Slayer/Nuclear
Assault gets that honour, but it definately rates as being the most fun.
As Brynn has already reviewed Killer Dwarfes I'll only say that I also enjoyed
their set tremendously, one of the best front-man I've ever seen.

	On to the bizness of Maiden, acclaimed by J.K. (Jonathan King) as the
most popular Rock (not metal) band around.  The stage show was the same as
for the rest of the tour, but slightly smaller due to the size of the Hammy O.
Still, they managed to get the largest lighting rig I've seen into the place.
Predictably enough they started out with the intro to Seventh Son and then
Moonchild.  I can't tell you the full track listing bvt it included such
numbers as;
	Infinite Dreams, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, Can I play with Madness,
Number of the Beast, Iron Maiden, The Clairvoyant.  Surprisingly left out were
Two minutes to Midnight, The Trooper...But excellently replaced with Still
Life and Killers.
	Being the last show for about 18 months there were a few surprises in
for us in the crowd.  A couple of numbers into the set, a Killer Dwarf cam on
in a pair of kacks and braces.  Bruce expertly tore his clothing off and said
Dwarf left the stage rather embarrassed.  During the "interlude" in Seventh
Son we had Spinal Tap revisited with pixies dancing around an altar type 
thing which was lowered from the lights.  There weren't any pixies around so
a couple of Killer Dwarfes had to do instead.  More Killer Dwarfes were
involved near the end of the performance when a pantomime horse invaded the
stage.
	The encore gave us Run to the Hills, Running Free, Sanctuary and a
couple others.  This is definately one of the best shows I've been to, and all
I can say is...

	Up the Irons. See ya in '90/91.

	MoshDuckula.

    Agreed...
    
    re: Pete
    
    Do you still have that Maiden history/discography?  If so, would
    you mind reposting it?
    
    gh

    

    A Maiden trivia question....
    
    What was the first Maiden single to be release in USA ?
    
    Answers on a postcard to....

    How 'bout two minutes to Midnight or Aces High.
    
    the devil dog who will never again reply to a topic in this conference
    that isn't directly music related. 
    
    p.s. what is the front side to Rainbow's Gold
    
    

    Rainbow's Gold is the flip side to Two minutes to Midnight.
    
    
    Flip

    
	The first IM *single* to be released in USA was 
        "Can I play with Madness".
    
        You're gobsmacked right ?

    NO way.....I don't believe it......it can't be......are you sure...?
    
    After how many killer songs, one off the latest album was the first....
    
    I find it extreamly hard to believe.  (but will take your word for
    it.)
    
    Dark Helmet
    

	Not saying anything detrimental to you Tony, but I think you are wrong.
I'll look it up, but I'm sure that it was either Run to The Hills or Aces High
that was first released in the USA.

    
    Well, according to my (could well be wrong) sources, although Maiden
    have enjoyed large sales with albums in the usa, the first single
    was CIPWM.                  
                                
    If its wrong then its wrong!

    It's called 12 Wasted Years - I think someone has already put in
    a review about it!
    
    It shows some footage of them playing at the Ruskin Arms and everyone
    explains how they got into the band.  It's quite funny!
    
    Don't buy it, it's not the kind of video that you'll want to watch
    again and again!
    
    
    FLip

>    Hopefully the first two Lp's will be released on CD soon also.
    
According to my latest Noteworthy catalog, 'Iron Maiden' and 'Killers'
are already available on disk. They are priced as part of the mid-line
series, so they whould be retailing for about $9.99-$10.99.

cat

                
                I have  them  both  on CD, so I'll guarantee that
                they are available!!   In fact, I've had them for
                several months.
                
                - ROb
                
                

    -1
       Yeah he did play Eddie and he also played drums at a gig when
    Clive wos sick.
    
         Mike

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    Hi everyone... Does anybody know when the next Iron Maiden video
    is going to be realeased... its going to be from there latest album
    seventh son!!!
    
                          RoCk Of
                               
                               AgEs!!!

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         Does anybody know what is being said on Iron Maiden's 'Piece
    Of Mind' album where it has been recorded backwards. I have tried
    turning the record backwards but can't get the speed right. It's
    been bugging me for ages. HELP!
    

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    I think someone has already put that backward message in here...
    
    May be in the Iron Maiden note #17 or backward massages.
    
    Flip

    This bit of back masking is just before Still Life....some people
    say that it is just garbage put in to piss off the PMRC and others
    think (but I've never managed to make it out) that it is part of
    the tune Black Bart!
    
    Black Bart is on the b-side of 12" Can I play with madness.
    
    Flip
    
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    HELP!!!
       Does anybody know what is being said on Iron Maiden's 'Piece
    Of Mind' album where it has been recorded backwards. I have tried
    playing the record backwards and reversing a cassette but I can't
    get the speed right. This question has been bugging me for ages,
    can somebody help?!?
    
    
                  Steve.
    

    Hamburg?  Hammersmith Odeon?  Metal_Hammer?
    
    Don't know....
    
    ;^(
    
    Flip

    The "Hammers" I think refers to West Ham Football Club (soccer).
    
    If I'm wrong who cares!
    
    Bonzo

    West Ham!  The most *useless* football team!
    
    'Can you hear West Ham sing - we can't hear a fahking thing!!!!'
    
    I love being a football hooligan!!!!!
    
    Flip

    By football, you of course mean the kind you play with your feet. I.E.
    soccer. 

    
    Hammers = West_Ham = naff footbal team

    BTW  'arry doesn't *play* for West Ham - the idiot just supports
    them.
    
    ;^)
    
    FLip

	I'm sure that I've put this in before somewhere, the backward message
on Piece of Mind is a quote from Idi Amin...

	" For who sed di ting wid di tree bonce
	  Don't meddle wid tings ya don't understand"

	MD

    That would be a "Killer" tune to cover, if you'll pardon the
    expression.
    
    the devil d...jh

    
    
    	What's the deal with maiden these day's...
    
    	Are we gonna see a new album, tour, sacrifice,.....?
    
    	Something live would be nice...
    
    
    The_terminator@BMF

    Maiden are taking a two year break.  There will not be a new album
    until the end of 1991

    
    Don't worry Pete, I got me ears to the ground and I have a list
    of persons to bribe for passes etc.. 8^)

    rep .129
    --------
    I thought Maiden were taking a 1 year break........
    
                         Rock ogf ages
    

    
    No, its a two year break but I reckon they will play the odd show
    here and there.
         
    -Tony

    If ya wanna hear some new Maiden, this ia all ya gotta do ...
    
    
    
    Buy Helloween's "Keeper Of The Seven Keys" Parts I and II.    8^)
    
    
    				Scary

                Some of  their  stuff  reminds  me of Maiden, but
                they are hardly  clones.    I like Helloween, but
                they don't even come close to IM IMO.
                
                

	Re.113	Pete - There isn't much rumour about why Clive left
	the band.  It wasn't musical differences or anything like that,
	he just said "hey that's enough, I'm gonna say bye bye".  Don't
	know why.  It was all very amiable, even got credited on Piece of
	Mind, unlike a certain ex singer.

		Mosh.

    Re: .136
    
        If you really want to hear some *good* IM "Clones"(I use the
    term loosely), pick up any tape by Barren Cross. Sure they're a
    religious band, but their overall sound/image is straight up HE/ME.
         They just released a new album called "State of Control." ''ve
    heard the first song and was more than impressed. The song: RAPTURE.
    Read more about them in "New Releases."         t.y.
    
                                               
    
    
    
                                                 M Y K E 
    

    
    Helloween *are* good

          O.K.  Maybe I should have said that Helloween was good, too.
    It was supposed to be insinuated. I've only heard "Keeper II" once,
    and I agree that they are good, but I was only bringing Barren Cross
    to light. They aren't as popular as Helloween. 

    
    Seven Keys came out *way* before seven sons.

    RE:  Clive leaving the band....
    
    This is taken from the official biography.....
    
    Clive left the band because he could not handle playing live and the
    heights to which Iron Maiden had reached.

    Belong to the fan club. I do!!!!!!
     
                      SRi

    Well I belong to the Iron Maiden fan club. A we while ago some one said
    to me that Maiden were taking a 2 year brake. I've just recieved a
    catalogue telling you what maiden has been doing since seventh tour 
    of a seventh tour ended. Well they said they will be in ACTION next YEAR.
    Well I can't wait, I don't know about you lot!!!!! Hope it's a good
    album. I've missed Maiden this year!!!!...!!!! I also heard that
    they might be releasing a live recording of the seventh tour next year
                          
                         Well Up The Irons Again....
    
                                     SRi

    
                RE: .148
                
                Way cool !  Thanks for the info !
                
                METALord"�

    
    
        Seven deadly sins, Seven ways to win...
    
       YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    

    I WAS IN PARIS FOR THEIR "MONSTERS OF ROCK" CONCERT, BRUCE REALLY
    SAID THAT THEY WOULD TAKE 2 YEARS HOLIDAYS.
    SORRY !!!
    
    MOREOVER, I HEARD SOME RUMORS TELLING THAT DAVE MURRAY WOULD LEAVE
    MAIDEN......THE REASON WOULD BE: DRINKS TOO MUCH ALCOOL.
    IS THERE ANYONE TO TELL ME I AM DOING AN AWFULL MISTAKE ?
    
    
    ANOTHER NEW IS THAT (YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW) ADRIAN SMITH PLAYS IN
    ANOTHER BAND AS LEAD SINGER AND LEAD GUITARIST....AND THE SONGS
    WASTED YEARS AND SEA OF MADNESS WERE ORIGINALLY WROTE FOR THIS BAND,
    BUT THEY WERE SO GOOD THAT THEY DECIDED TO PLAY THEM IN IM !!
    
    I HOPE I INTERESTED YOU WITH ORIGINAL NEWS YOU CAN TRUST, BECAUSE
    THEY COME FROM A REAL SERIOUS FRENCH HM MAGAZINE CALLED "METAL
    CONNECTION".
    
    
       KILLER, BEHIND YOU 
    
    HE LAUGHS AS HE WATCHES YOUR BLEED....

    
    Adrian Smith is playing lead guitar and singing in a new band whilst
    the rest of Madien take their vacation.
    
    They *are* on vacation for 2 years though.

    In my mag they say NEXT YEAR
    
                       SRi
    
    
                      

    Anybody interested in joining the maiden fan club???????????????
    
                            SRi
    

    Sorry mate, been in the fc for the past four years ;^)
    
    BTW, if ya think about it.....next year is two years, ain't it!?!?!
    
    Flip

    Pete,
    
    The FC address should be written on one of the album covers.....
    there is probably a US fan club that you'll have to join.
    
    Flip

                              MAIDEN NEWS
                             -------------
    
    Barely had the last notes of the last concert on the Seventh Tour faded
    before a sense of sadness descended on the members of Iron Maiden.
    Where in the past they had always been tired at the end of a tour the
    five week break they had due to cancellation of the Far East leg of the
    tour, ensured that as the UK tour drew to a close they were just
    getting in the swing of things. However after a couple of weeks spent
    with their families and unwinding they all came to realise that the
    discision to take a long break had been the right one. Adrian had
    already advantage of the earlier break to marry his fiancee Natalie and
    so after a short rest began to start writing and rehearsing new
    material for his solo project.
    
    Nicko spent christmas at home then went abroad for a bit of winter
    sunshine.
    After his well earned rest Nicko settled down to some work of his own,
    starting work on a drum book and golfing with the returned home Rod
    Smallwood and Davey.
    
    Steve spent christmas at home and as well as playing football three
    times a week spends most of his time hunched over a control consul
    editing some 120 cassettes for the new live video. Steve flew out to
    Germany with Martin Birch for the mixing of the video soundtrack.
    
    Dave and Tamar finally sold their house in Hawaii and after countless
    hours of house hunting found a new home in East Anglia and are both up
    to their necks in decorating (crap).
    
    Bruce has been busy. He has set up his own video production called,
    Duellist (great song!!!) Productions, you may have also read about his
    worh with Wrathchild. He has also established Duellist Enterprises who
    will deal with mail order fencing equipment As if that isn't enough
    he's also helping to manage a band!!
    
    As you can see all the members of Iron Maiden are enjoying their "rest"
    but don't worry they'll be back in ACTION NEXT YEAR.
    
    Here is my Iron Maiden Top 20 :-
    
     1. Number Of The Beast
     2. Run To The Hills
     3. The Trooper
     4. Hallowed Be Thy Name
     5. Phantom Of The Opera
     6. The Sheriff Of Huddersfield
     7. 7th Son Of A 7th Son
     8. Rime Of The Ancient Mariner
     9. Iron Maiden
    10. Running Free
    11. Two Minutes To Midnight
    12. The Prisoner
    13. Can I Play With Madness
    14. Wasted Years
    15. Powerslave
    16. The Clairvoyant
    17. Stranger In A Strange Land
    18. Moon Child 
    19. Infinite Dreams
    20. The Evil That Men Do  
    
                              
                           Thanks
                
                             SRi

    
    
    Late the other night I heard the ending of a song on the radio 
    and I'm sure the announcer said it was by Bruce Dickinson!!??
    
    I think it was called "Bring your Daughter to the Slaughter"
    and it's off the soundtrack from the new Nightmare On Elm Street
    movie.
    
    Can anybody confirm this? 
    If it was Bruce, who was backing him up?
    
    The Metal Mole
    (New to this Conference)
    

    Adrian Smith has a new band called ASAP (Adrian Smith And Project).
    
    Dave Colwell	Guitar
    Andy Barnett	Guitar
    Zak Starkey		Drums (Ringo Starr's son)
    Richard Young	Keyboards
    Robin Claydon	Bass
    
    Adrian handles all vocals.  The album is called Silver and Gold.
    He says, 'The material is much more straight ahead rock as there
    was no point in exploring the same areas that Maiden do so well.
    
    'The projetc is a one-off and in no way affects my involvements
    with Maiden.  In fact, we'll all probably be back in action writing
    sometime next year......'
    
    Flip

    
    The LP, Mc & Cd are out now!!!!!
    I'm certainly buying a copy....!!!
    
    					Cheers
    					SRi
    
    P.s It said in the latest metal forces mag...!

    
    	The new Adrian Smith album.
    
    	Go back about 3 replies.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    He wasn't referring to you!
    

                         
                         < I. M. VIDEO >
    
      I am new to the HEAVY METAL conf. but I've already read
    
      through The Complete works of Iron Maiden (so far!!)
    
      As I have seen the most of the questions about I.M.
    
     have been answered.  So here's a question :
    
    
      WHEN IS THE Seventh Son VIDEO ON SALE. After being promised
    
     It for the middle of this year by METAL HAMMER (LAST YEAR!!!)
    
                                    Can someone tell me
    
    
                                      JOHN THE CLAIRVOYANT!!
    

    
    Can someone tell me how to set my member/name as I got stuck 
    
    when MEMBER: appears.
    
     I usually get privalige denied
             
                        help please.
    
             John The CL.
    
    

    You can't.....it's mods only as members.
    
    Flip

    re: .170
    
    Is that what you really want, or do you want to set your personal name? 
    To do that you use the command SET PROFILE/PERSONAL="text..."
    
    gh

    
           Thanks,
    
    
    
    But no one got the answer to my question about the Video?

    
     Good News everyone,
    
    
                        The Iron Maiden Video is due out very soon.
    
                         It's called "Maiden in the UK." or somthing
    
                         like that.
    
    
                         Adrian Smith's "PROJECT" is also due very soon.
    
     
                         Also Bruce Dikinson is supposed to have his
    
                         own "PROJECT" sort of thing on the go.
    
    
    
                                    So there's a little piece of
                                     info. for ya.
    
    
                                           John the CL.
    
                          

    Adrian Smith's project is out.
    
    Flip

    
    Actually DYKT Bruce D. is not a bad guitar player.
                  
    Trivia for ya.

    
    Bruce Dickinson is cotributing to the Life-aid Armenia Project and
    is also working of a solo album.  He  has already recorded one track
    called 'Take you daughter to the slaughter' for the soundtrack to
    the movie 'A Nightmare on Elm Street Part V: The Dream Child'. 
    He is also manageing two bands at the moment: 3 Rivers and Pleasure
    and is involved in the writing of a film script and has written
    a book.
    
    Flip

    
    Does anyone know anything about the rock opra Bruce
    
      was working on at the end of the tour?
    
    

    
    The rock opera is the film he is working on.
    
    Flip

    How come Flip you know so much?
    
    
    		SRi
    

    
    Weeeeeeeell, I often ask myself that question!  (She says licking
    her eyebrows!)
    
    If you joined the Iron Maiden FC then you would get to hear all
    of it...wouldn't you!  Plus I've been in it for years and phone
    up the secretaries.
    
    Flip

    Quick response........I have joined the Maiden F.C and i just recieved
    a postcard of the ASAP album.....plus a form to go the maiden
    convention buti can't make.......!! Anyway i've been in the F.c for
    1 year and have renewed my membership to 2 years.....!!!!!!!
    So do you reckon B.Dickinson will release a solo album with all the 
    side B tracks......and the video should be out in a month or so...?
    Well if they do i've certainly got alot of spending to do!!!
    
    
    			SRi
    P.s Keep me informed...!!!
    

    
    As far as I am aware, Bruce's solo album will consist of original
    stuff, not the b-side tracks.
    
    Flip

    
    
    When is the MAIDEN conference and where???
    
                                       JON.

    
    Hey Jon, what are you on ?!?!?!
    
    ;^)
    
    Flip

    
    Apparantly, Maiden are releasing a live compilation album soon.

    
    Is this the one they recorded in the UK?
    
    Flip

    
    re.186
    
      Hey  Flip,
    
                Dave Baugh mentioned in .182 that he recieved
    
                a form for the Maiden conference and I was 
    
                wondering what conference is this?? I've never
    
                heard anyone saying anthing about this.
    
                 Maybe Dave has got some inside info.??
    
    
                                                 JoN.

    
    Oh, that one!  I think anyone can attend this, but if you are a
    member of the FC then you get early notification of such events
    and at a discount rate (plus guatanteed entry).
    
    SRi, when is the date of it again and where is it being held?
    
    Flip

    I dunno where the lp was recorded.

    
    
    RE. 190
    
                When and Where is it???
    
                                   JoN.

   	                     �The Conference�
    
    	The conference is in late November and is held at various places.
    	I see if I have any more information on it....!
    	Anyway I remember the club saying that all the conferences were 
    	booked anyway!!!!
    	
        By the way what's this about Maiden producing a live album...? 
    	When...is it coming out.....from the 7th tour yeah...?
    
    				Cheers
    				SRi
    
    
    P.s Hope this helps a bit...!!!

    90-Minutes live video, filmed at the Birmingham NEC is set for release
    at the beginning of November (that's in the UK).
    
    Flip

    
    It was recorded during the SSOASS tour and includes:
    
    Moonchild
    The Evil That Men Do
    Prisoner
    Still Life
    Die with your boots on
    Infinite Dreams
    Killers
    Can I play with your t*ts...I mean Madness
    Heaven Can wait
    Wasted Years
    The Clairvoyant
    SSOASS
    The number of the beast
    Hallowed be thy name
    Iron Maiden
    
    Flip
    
    

    
    AND.....it's called Maiden England
    
    Flip

    :Flip
    
    Where did you get the information about the video being released...!
    
    				Cheers
    				SRi
    
    P.s. Did you get it from the F.C or from Kerrang or Metal Hammer...?
    

    
    Steve Harris:  "We'll probably go back to Munich in april to begin
    recording our next album"
    
    Flip

    
    
    Maiden England. I'm sure it will be released on CD in the states.
    
    I hope.
    
    
    
                                DEEBS

    What do you mean on cd? Do you mean Cd-Video or normal CD...?
    
    
    			Cheers
    			SRi
    

    
      Did you see???
    
    
               Did anyone see the Paradise Club on BBC 1 (UK)
    
               on Tuesday night?
    
               A band played the programme out and guess who was 
    
               the lead singer, Bruce Dickerson!! with Nicko on the
    
               drums!!!!.
    
               I can't remember the first two parts of the bands name
    
               but it was   somthing somthing AND THE SWINGING DEVILS.
    
               Does anyone know anything else about this strange 
    
               sighting???
    

    
    No, I missed it (I was still here chatting to the likes of Tigga!).
    
    Iron Maiden have been known to play gigz under a false name before
    a major event....last time I heard they did this was when they played
    before Donnington.
    
    But then, all the band members are involved.
             
    Flip
    

    
    
    Correct about I.M. playing under false names
    
       eg. The surprise prefomance at the Marquee' birthday party
    
     Iron Maiden and KISS played under the name of The Charlots and
    
     the Harlots, But on the Paradise club It was just Bruce and Nicko.
    
                                            Did anyone see it??
    
    
                                                      JoN.
    
      

    
    There were two gigs at the Marquee - Kiss played as Kiss, Iron Maiden
    played as Charlotte and the Harlots. The queue for Charlotte and
    the Harlots was about 15 miles long and I didn't get in :^(
    I didn't bother with Kiss, they make me ssiK (back-masking?)
    
    Paul
    ----

    The Maiden Video is out in the stores on 6-Nov-89....!!!!
    
                		SRi
    

    
    Iron maiden will also be releasing a new live single to coincide with
    the release of Maiden England.
    
    A side	Infinite Dreams
    
    B side	Killers
    
    12" includes the extra track Still Life.  All versions were recorded
    at the Birmingham NEC.
    
    Maiden Bigin writing material for the new LP in the new year - the lp
    should be released late 1990.
    
    Flip

Dear Perkins
            Steve Harris whilst doing a live 'phone in on Radio 210
    last saturday night (11/11/89) on Brian Pither's rock show 
    ,in which I managed to get through  to speak to him, he annouced
    that Maiden will be starting work on the new album in Feb '90
    and due to be released around August.This will be followed by
    a UK tour of around 22 dates,playing smaller gigs e.g Oxford Apollo
    and Guilford City Hall,then a world tour.
        Just thought you'd like to know
                                     see ya 
                                          Rokinst.
    

    
    
       Well what does everyone think about the new video then?
    
    
                                                    JoN

    boring 

    
    I haven't bought/seen it....I didn't think much of the SSOSS tour, so I
    don't think I'll bother.  Why they put out another live video?!?!
    
    Flip

    
           I've think Powerslave was lots better,even MTV's cover of
    Donnigton '88 was better.So I won't bother either
                                            RokinsT
    

    
    Yes, that's exactly how I feel!
    
    Flip

    
    re Up the Hammers
    
    Oh Gawd!  If you see them play, you'll never shout that again!!!
    
    Don't you think it's a bit much that a band puts out two live videos?
    HAve you had the live version of Infinte Dreams released in the US. 
    When I saw the video, I cringed with embarrassment!  The vocals suck,
    they looked like they would be having more fun watching badgers die....
    it's boring!  Bring back the good old days of Hallowed be thy name,
    etc!
    
    Flip

    I'm new and have a question. There is a rumor going around that IM has
    broken up. Is that true ? Hope not.
    
    Jeff
    

    
    Naw I don't think so.
    
    
                           They're planning to bring out a new album
    
                           next year and tour after that.
    
       
                           But in saying that there has always been
    
                           rumours about I.M. splitting up.
    
               
    
                            AND NONE OF THEM ARE TRUE!!!!
    
    
    
    
                              
    
                             (YET!!)
    
    
    
                                                   JoN

    Does anybody have any information on the future album? I'm glad they
    are still together.
    
    
    Jeff
    

    
    They go in the studio at the beginning of next year, so it should be
    out in the Summer/Autumn....when they go on tour!
    
    Flip

    There is a new album from one of maiden's men, Adrian Smith. It is
    called "Adrian Smith Project .." (I do not remember the last word) and
    I read a critic which was nor hot nor bad. I have no other details.
    I prefer "Somewhere in time" to "Seventh son .." and like the most "The
    number of the beast" and "Powerslave".
    Sorin

Adrian Smith And Project is the name of the band.

Didier

    
    	"Iron Maiden was out of sight in '89, but contrary to
    	rumors, they haven't broken up.  The band has been on
    	hiatus, and the members have been busy with solo projects.
    	Bruce Dickinson, who wrote a novel and has been working 
    	on a solo album, assures that Maiden will regroup and
    	begin work on a new record in '90.  "We'll be back,"
    	he promises."
    
    	Tigga~~~

    Maiden starts on their new album in Feb 1990 and will release it in
    Aug 1990.......!
    
    
    			SRi
    
    I wish they would release a video which had the number 1 hits and the
    videos to go with the song like the video "VIDEO PIECES"
                                  

	Bruce Dickinson is at this very moment mixing his debut
	solo thingy (sorry, I was lost there! -Flip).  The thingy 
	is due out in the first half on next year.

	Flip

    AS FAR AS D'IANNO AS GOD I CAN'T AGREE!!!
    I THINK THAT BRUCE HAS A BETTER ALL AROUND VOICE!
    BUT NO ONE CAN COMPAIR TO THE VOICE OF
    
    
                      "OZZY"
        SO I THINK...    
                     LIVE FREE OR DIE............

    
    	The "Best voice" discussion has been moved to 504.
    
    							GTI
    

    	ASaP will release a new single, "Down the wire" on January 22.
	The flip side will be anew Smith tune called, "When she's gone"
	and the CD will also feature, "School Days."

	Smith will shortly be hooking up with the rest of the Irons to
	begin work on the new Maiden LP.

	Flip
    

          
    Thank christ for that - I couldn't handle any more of that AsAp
    tripe.
         
    Mr Lame-o returns to his rightful place, as a rock guitarist, not
    some soppy AOR wally.
    
    <burp>

    
    	Which one of the guitarists is the better one?  I keep
    	forgetting.
    
    	Dave Murray
    	Adrian Smith
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	Oh yeah - the dual guitar solo in "Running Free" off of
    	"Live After Death" f***** roolz!!
    
    							GTI
    

    
    There is no better one...it's your opinion.
    
    Flip

                        
    Who's better ?
    
    Hmm...
          
    When Maiden play live, Adrian Smith generally sticks to the 'written'
    solo's, where as Dave Murray (the one who have a face like a budgie)
    tends to improvise more.
          
    If you listen carefully to the 'Live after death' album, you can
    tell who is soloing.
     
    As for who's better, well its down to personal opinions I guess,
    I like Dave Murray coz I admire people who can improvise a solo
    in an established song, and still make it sound great, but I also
    admire A.Smith for sticking to a formula that works, and playing
    safe (if you pardon the pun).
                                 
    Personal Preference methinks.

    -Tone

EMI release a limited edition collectors peice to commemorate their 10
year anniversary:

	IRON MAIDEN: The first ten years

This means that every week (for 10 weeks) in the UK, starting with 
Sanctuary, their singles will be re-released with the original gatefold
sleeve artwork and original B-side.

    Flip
    
    

    
    8^)  I thought you might be!
    
    heh heh heh
    
    Flip

    
   Is it true that,
    
    
                    Adrian Smith is leaving Iron Maiden?�?
    
                    I heard the other day there from someone
    
                    that he is leaving the band do do more 
    
                    A.S.A.P. work and that Iron Maiden is too "HEAVY".
    
    
                    Surely this can't be true. In his recent interview
    
                    he was asked if there was any chance that he would
    
                    be giving up I.M. for A.S.A.P. He said definately
    
                    not.
    
    
    
                                           Very confused person
    
    
                                                         JoN
                                            
    

    WHo wrote Wasted Years?

    Adrian Smith did.

    
    In the Latest Copy of Kerrang it is stated that when Iron Maiden
    recently got back together to start recording after a short time
    Adrian Smith decided that it was no longer his scene. It was
    apparently under 'amicable decisions' that Adrian Smith quit the
    band in order to persue the A.S.A.P. project and to begin work on 
    the follow up to 'Silver And Gold'. Iron Maiden are now looking
    for a British Guitarist to replace him, and will carry on writing
    new material.
    
    I will reprint the statement shortly.
    
    
                Prince Of The Dawn.

    British guitarist?
    
    Yo Tone, there's a gig for ya!

       
    Er.... no thanks! I know most of the tunes but, ahem.. I couldn't
    handle having to wear that silly scarf round my neck!
    
    8^)

    
       The new guitarist for the Irons is Jannick Gers (ex White Spirit).
    He apparently is heavilly involved in Bruce's solo project and will 
    play on Bruce's tour. He is old friends with Dave Murray and was the 
    first and only choice of the whole band. The band are currently back
    to writing new material.
    
    
    Prince Of The Dawn.

                                   
    Thats the guy who played on that track on Fish's new album. Jannick
    also did some stuff with The Ian Gillan Band.
                                   
    Mediocre player if you ask me!!

    Bruce's solo work is supposed to have a more gutsy AC/DC type feel
    to it ... I dunno ...
    
    
    				Scary

    
    Was it D'ianno who sang "Children of the Damned"?
    WOW! What a voice he's got.
    
    But where is he now? And what is he up to of late?
    
    et_Singapore

    RE -1 
    
    	No, Bruce Dickenson does COTD.
    
    				CB
    

    Ooops! got the wrong guy.  By the way, I'm not too knowlegeable on Maiden,
    but I appreciate those few songs that I've heard so far, COTD being one
    of them. So what are the albums that Bruce & D'ianno did (separately,of
    course)?
    
    et_Singapore

    best I can remember:
    
    	1.) Iron Maiden (self-titled)  :   D'ianno vocals
    					   Clive Burr orig. drummer
    					   Might not have had Adrian Smith
    					   yet, used to have Dennis Stratton
    					   on guitar along with Dave Murray
       
        2.) Killers                    :   D'ianno vocals
    					   Adrian Smith for sure on this album
    
    	3.)Maiden Japan                :   D'ianno vocals, 
    					   Live album.
    
    I've seen a bunch, and own a few Maiden bootlegs from the D'ianno era
    that have actually made it to vinyl.
    
    	4.)Number of the Beast         :   Bruce takes over on vocals
    					   This album has your COTD
    
        5.)Piece of Mind               :   Bruce on vocals,
    					   New Drummer Nicko McBrain
    					   Arguably the best Maiden Album.
    
    The order may be wrong on these last albums, But the lineup has
    remained the same since piece of mind:
    
    	6.)Powerslave		
    	7.)Live after Death  (live album)
    	8.)Somewhere in time
    	9.)7th son of a 7th son
    
    I think thats it, but I haven't followed them very closey in recent
    years, so forgive any mistakes Maiden fans.
    
    There are also a number of interesting Maiden peculuralities (sp?)
    out on vinyl, such as Maiden doing Jethro Tull's cross eyed Mary,
    and some unreleased Maiden originals.
    
    
    
    /J.V.G.
      
    

    Thanks J.V.G. 
    It was nice of you to type the facts in.
    
    et_Singapore

         
    Has the "First 10 years' series been release in the States yey?
                                                                  
    There are 10 limited edition IM 12" singles being released over a 
    10 week period (thats 1 a week) and if you collect them ALL, and get 
    the little tokens from inside, they will send you a collectors box
    (with artwork done by whatshisface) to put them all in - well wicked!!
                                                                          
    I've been getting mine free from my rep (HA!! Gotta love those
    contacts) and I've up to number 6 (Aces High) - four more to go 8^).
                                                                        
    Cheers,
    -Tony

    I've seen yesterday on "Headbanger's Ball" Bruce Dickinson's "Tatooed
    Millionaire" clip. It's closer to "Seventh.." style beeing less heavy
    but it's a good song which shows the vocal skills of Bruce. He may
    succeed well in a solo career also.
    
    Sorin

    
    
    Ah here B.D.'s solo is the highest climber in the U.K. charts!!
    
    
    
    
      My god he might even get on Top Of The Pop's with that one.
    
    
     Hope it does because Ive still to hear it.
    
    
      What's the Video like?   
    
             Any sign's of EddiE in it??
    
    
                                                JoN
    

    Recently I've watched on TV a manifestation in Romania against the
    ancient nomenklatura. One of the men was carying a poster showing a
    victim of Ceausescu which was not anyone else than ..Eddie !!! It was a
    drawing of Eddie inspired from the cover of "Piece of Mind" (Eddie
    jailed).
    
    Sorin

    
    
    Maybe EddiE is Alive and Kicking in Romania!!   WoW!!
    
    
      Either that I.M. has been there??  Anyone know?
    
    
         MAIDEN ROMANIA maybe??
    
                                     JoN
    

    the real trick is playing Albania. They don't even let Tourists in,
    must be some wicked Waves 

    Iron Maiden (or other HM band) have never been in Romania but .. they
    were very popular like heavy metal in general which was not showed on
    TV or radio. But there were tapes circulating everywhere. After
    Ceausescu's fall one of the first things to appear on TV were heavy
    metal bands. But in that country (also in Albania) they still cannot
    find the original albums on the market (a commercial problem maybe). So
    heavy metal won with the insurrection over Ceausescu.
    
    Sorin (nephew of Dracula)

                Reprinted from  the  June edition of Guitar World
                without permission. . .
                
                Former Gillan guitarist  Janick Gers will replace
                Adrian  Smith when Iron  Maiden  returns  to  the
                studio.    `When  Adrian left,  the  band  had  a
                meeting  to  discuss  replacements,  and  it  was
                obvious to all of us who that  should  be,'  says
                Steve  Harris.    `We've  all known Janick for  a
                number of years and all of us get on  great  with
                the guy.    He's  a  superb  guitarist, lives and
                breathes heavy metal  and  has  always been a big
                fan of Maiden's music.  We didn't audition anyone
                else.  We just asked  Janick to learn a couple of
                songs and come down to a  rehearsal.  The playing
                jelled immediately.  You'd think he and Davey had
                been  playing together for years.  We'll probably
                release an album  toward  the end of the year and
                then can get back on the road.'

                METALord"�

    
    	The new album is basically done ... all they need to do is
    	re-mix it and they'll be all set.
    
    	They're also planning on touring later on this year.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    So it was YOU who nicked my Kerrang! 
    
    ..I must admit that I'm not looking forward to this new album, somehow
    I don't think it will be any good.....
    
    Flip

    It should be GREAT - with Bruce taking some time off to do his solo
    work, the new album should be packed full of new MAIDEN ideas, not
    Bruce's solo wannabe's ... I think it'll cook !
    
    Scary
                     

Touring !  Awesome !

I HAVE to see these dudes in concert.

...jc

...Have to...

    is it true harris has gone and has been replaced with the guitarist
    dickinson used on tatooed millionare?
    

                Nope, Adrian is gone...
                
                

    
    Maiden is Harry's baby - if he left then there wouldn't be any more
    Maiden.
    
    Flip

    I've been following Maiden since they started out,and I'll be down
    at Poole tomorrow queuing for tickets,can't make the Southampton
    gig as I am on holiday-nice to see the band playing the "grass roots"
    venues.

    Just got news from Bruce:::
    
    Album - "No Prayer for the Dying" will be released in October
    Tour  - Hits the states in January.
    Adrian Smith has left the band 6 months ago
    

    
    The first leg of the Iron Maiden world Tour (21 dates in the UK
    during September and October) will see Wolfsbane in the support
    role.  The last leg.....the UK again....will have ANTHRAX in support!
    
    Flip

Steve Harris declared in Metal Hammer's september issue that the new 
Iron Maiden album (called "No prayer for the dying") will be their heaviest
to date. The album should be released in October.

Sorin

    Holy Smoke is the new single from their forthcoming album, the single
    came out today.
    
    Flip

    
    The single is very good (saw the video last night on MTV), but its the 
    most comercial thing Maiden have done so far, IMO.

    More then "Can I Play With Madness"?  I thought they were getting
    pretty commercial sounding with that one...
    
    gh

    
    	RE: Greg
    
    	I was going to say the same thing ... "Can I Play With Mad-
    	ness" is the most commercial-sounding song they've done.
    
    	IMO, their best album so far is "Somewhere In Time" ... with
    	"Piece of Mind" a close 2nd.
    
    							GTI
    

    IMO, their best album is Number...with Piece coming in a close 2nd!

    
    Killers was the last *real* Iron Maiden album.
    
    
    
                                  DEEBS

    Piece of Mind and Powerslave for my top two favorite Maiden albums. 
    PoM would probably get top honors since it was the first of their
    albums that really got my attention.
    
    gh

    
    
    I think the LIVE tape is best.  It's got all the best  tunes on it.
    
    -kim

    
    1) Powerslave
    2) Somewhere In Time

    re: .287
    
    >  "Can I play with madness" is the most commercial-sounding song
    >  they've done.
    
    That may well be.  But too bad the radio stations don't think they
    have much of anything that's commercial.  I could stand to hear
    more Maiden on the radio!  They get a few months of airplay after
    each new album, then it drops off.  I tell ya... the general public
    just don't know what's good for 'em!
    
    < Ken >
    

>    They get a few months of airplay after each new album, then it drops
>    off.

    Sounds like standard operating procedure to me.  VERY few songs get
    played consistantly for months or years on end, it doesn't have
    anything to do with the artist.
    
    gh

    
    Maiden Japan. The live EP.
    
    
    
                                     DEEBS

1. Number of the beast, Live after death
2. Powerslave, Somewhere in time
3. Piece of mind, Seventh son .. and the rest

sorin

    
    
    1. Live After Death
    2. Number of the Beast
    3. Powerslave

    
    
      Just as a matter of interest, Who in this conference
    
      has the Maiden in Japan EP ?
    
      As being the owner of one I'm trying to find out how rare it is,
    
      and maybe how much it's worth :-]
    
    
                                           JoN  $   $
                                                  |
                                                 ~~~
    
     
      P.S. Three days till they play the local Rock Hall in AYR!!

    
    RE- .305
    
           The Maiden Japan EP I've got is an origonal,
    
           (First pressing I think - not sure!)
    
          The record has only been played 3 times, First by the guy
    
          I bought it from, Second by myself to listen to it, Third
    
          to copy it and the cover is in excellent condition.
    
    
                                                JoN

    
    
       Adrian Smith did leave. They got the guitarist who worked on 
     Bruces solo work. The song wasn't that bad, but it's not the maiden
     I know. I think Iron Maiden needs Adrian, Dave is the only one who 
     can keep the maiden sound alive. I can't wait to hear powerslave on
     c.d. I bought last night..      :-)
    
    							Doug..

    re: Maiden Japan EP
    
    I just picked up an import maiden CD.  Purgatory - Maiden Japan.
    With the same songs as Maiden Japan plus Purgatory, Genghis khan,
    (album versions) and a 7.5 minute segment featuring Nicko McBrain 
    talking about the band back then, (where was he?) and telling jokes.
    
    It's part of "First Ten Years" limited edition series comprising
    ten releases.  The one I got was #3.  I looks like theres different
    songs on each one.  Residents of the UK, it says, can mail in all ten 
    vouchers (one from each of the ten releases) and recieve a free
    illustrated box to keep their CDs in.  "Special limited edition"
    of course!        
    
    Anybody else seen any of these around?
    
    < Ken >
    

                I remember that Coop!! :')

                Sonor drums kill in sound as compared to Ludwig as 
                far as I'm concerned.  Too bad in... um... 86?
                They redesigned everything and started making
                the shells differently, etc.  Haven't been the same
                since.  Nikko's old set KILLED!  I loved that thing.
                Perhaps if I send him a letter he'll give me his old
                set?  :')

                Cheers, Rob

    
    	And the CD is DDD ... finally, Iron Maiden records it all
    	in digital!!
    
    	The closest they came is ADD for "Somewhere in Time" and
    	"Live After Death".
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	I think that "Powerslave" is definitely better than "No Prayer" and
    I also prefer a couple of the tracks from "Seventh Son".  However the
    new album is very balanced and on the whole probably comes second or
    third in my list of IM's 'must haves'.
    
    Favourite tracks:  Holy Smoke
    		       Hooks in you
    	               Bring your daughter etc.
    
    GAZ
    

    
    Phantom of the Opera isn't on the CD, but I think it's on the LP and
    cassette.
    
    About Bruce's voice on this one, I think it's poorer than usual,
    especially on Mother Russia.
    
    /prc
    

    I liked 7th son better, but "No Prayer" is certainly a must have.
    
    Did anyone notice that a couple lines at the beginning of "Hooks
    In You" are left out of the lyric sheet?  Something like
      "Is there a future, what kind of creature
       Will hang around waitin' for a guy like me"
    
    And while I'm replying to the Maiden topic, has anyone heard Maiden's
    version of "I've Got The Fire" by Montrose w/sammy hagar?  Awesome
    rippin' tune!  It's only on an import single as far as I know.
    
    <Ken>
    
    d

    
    Phantom of the Opera is available on CD. It's on Iron Maiden's first
    album with Paul Dianno and Dennis Straton. The Real Iron Maiden.
    
    
    
                                  DEEBS

From: [email protected] (B J Donnelly)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Anthrax/Maiden
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service
Lines: 89
 
 
The date:  Tuesday 11th December.
The time:  7.45.
The venue: A grotty big hall in the middle of nowhere, with aeroplanes
flying overhead.
 
The lights go down, leaving a large clock illuminated on the left of the
stage. The hands whirl round faster and faster ans faster. Then in a
burst of light  Anthrax blaze onto the stage. They're wildly energetic
and completely unintelligible. The words suggested that the song was
persistence of time, but it was just a noise. The crowd don't care
though, this is Anthrax and they may not get to see them again for a
while. 
 
By the third song however, some wizard had done some fine tuning behind
the scenes and Anthrax now sounded like the band we know and love.
 
In all the set lasted about an hour, they played the first four songs
from among the living: 
	Among the Living
	Caught in A Mosh
	I am the Law
	Efilnikufesin (N.F.L.)
 
From State of Euphoria they played one song: Antisocial, perhaps an
indication that the songs on this album are somewhat weak, compared to
some of the others, especially for an hour long set.
 
They played several tracks from Persistence as you might expect:
	Time
	Keep it in the Family
	Belly of the Beast
	Got the Time
 
They also played Madhouse.
 
They even did an encore, they came on and played I am the Man follow by
I am the Law - seriously wicked as they say.
 
And that was Anthrax. Everyone then rushed off for a quick pint (the
fifteen year olds included - of which there were a startlingly large
number - the new Metalhead image - small weedy fifteen and frenetic
((and pissed on one pint of lager)) )
 
After some delay, while the stage was being setup, Maiden came on after
their new intro tune. Janick Gers seems to have injected new life into
the whole group. They were all running round the stage like beheaded
chickens. Bruce scaled the supports at the side of the stage on a couple
of occasions and Janick has been allowed to let all his exhibitionism
out, twirling the guitar round as he plays it, tossing it in the air,
dancing with Eddie as he plays and generally running around. 
 
Check out Bruce's mean moves, especially when he is singing The
Assassin. Well he tries to move anyway. 
 
In all the set lasted about an hour and a half, with two or three
encores - I was well away with it by this time so couldn't say for
definite. They play a good ole mix though, off the top of my head:
	Assassin
	Tailgunner
	Daughter to the Slaughter ("Our new single ... released
Christmas Eve ... designed to scare the shit out of Cliff Richard in his
fucking white suit")
	No Prayer for the Dying (Bruce's favourite)
	Hooks in You
 
Old favourites:
	Somewhere in Time
	Heaven can Wait
	Run to the Hills
 	Number of the Beast
	Die with your Boots On
	Sanctuary
	
And loads more ....
 
Even if you only like one of the bands I would strongly recommend going
as they are both exceptional. I'd say Anthrax had the edge - marginally
- but before I start a debate - this is a personal opinion. And if you
like both bands - well what are you waiting for.
 
Oh by the way - while I'm here - to the person that was asking how to
get good tickets - I used to go and queue for hours - and get lousy
seats. In Edinburgh to get the best seats you have to join one of the
membership schemes run by various venues and costing lots of dosh, but
another good way to get a ticket is to phone the box office the day the
tickets go on sale and order by credit card. I'm told though, that if
you want the best seats to either buy a venue or work for onr. So there
you have it.

    Here in England,Iron Maiden are currently number one with "Bring Your 
    Daughter To The Slaughter" with no airplay and little promotion.
    
    I heard last night that the head of radio one hasn`t put the record on
    the playlist because in his opinion,the listners wouldn`t want to hear
    it. 
    
    So we have Iron Maiden having the best selling single and nobody wants
    to hear it. Yeah,makes sense. Especially with such "brilliance" as
    Vanilla Ice prat face about.
    
    Also,Anthrax are high in the charts - absolutely no chance of hearing
    that.
    
    Lemmy`s left wart.
    
    

    
    
    IRON MAIDEN:  THE DEVIL YOU SAY
    
    
    Taken without permission from the Boston Herald, January 22, 1991.
    
    
    Iron Maiden has some thing of an identity problem.
    
    You can still find the group prominently displayed on the cover of the
    Jimmy Swaggart booklet that equates heavy metal rock n' roll with the
    devil's work.  And when things got a little out of hand at a couple of
    the band's concerts, they were quickly tagged with a reputation for
    inciting violence.
    
    Having Eddie, their outsized, death mask-wearing android mascot gracing
    album covers and tromping around the stage has done nothing to
    alleviate those contentions.
    
    Not that it matters much to the group - or their fans - aftern 10 years
    ann nine albums.  But just to set the record straight, the British
    headbanging quintent - who appear tomorrow night at the Worcester
    Centrum and Friday at the Providence Civic Center - find those
    associations laughable.
    
    "We've always seen ourselves as completely the opposite," says Dave
    Murray, Iron Maiden's lead quitarist, referring to the morally activist
    leanings in the band's lyrics.
    
    "You can go to a soccer game and fans are much more violent than at a
    Maiden show.  And though we've had a few lyrics that refer to Satan,
    it's all fiction, just fantasy-oriented.  It's not to be taken
    seriously, just like books, movies or even advertising."
    
    You might be able to read some devil-worship references into the title
    track of "Prayer for the Dying," Iron Maiden's latest album on Epic. 
    But heavier topics of environmental responsibility, nuclear war or the
    dissolution of the Soviet bloc can also accompany the group's punky
    metal.
    
    Unlike heavy metallers who beleive speed or volume is paramount, Iron
    Maiden's love affairs with melody and tempo changes have set them apart
    from the crowd, even if the results were sometimes unbearably pompous
    ("Rime of the Ancient Mariner").  "Prayer for the Dying" is a return to
    the angry energy of early Maiden, circa "Number of the Beast" (1982).
    
    "It's refreshing, not as polished as some of the more recent stuff,"
    says Murray.  "Even though the musicianship is on a higher level it's
    like we've come full circle."
    
    Murray says it's been surprisingly easy to keep the group's collective
    fire burning:  "There's still that fight, that hunger."  And the band's
    chemistry has been helped by the addition of guitarist Janick Gers
    (ex-Ian Gillan), who played on Maiden vocalist Bruce Dickinson's solo
    album last year.
    
    "The guitars are featured more - very heavy," Murray says beaming. 
    "And there's a general enthusiasm, a bit of magic in the band's
    interaction now."  Even Nicko (drummer Nicko McBrain) is running about
    on stage."
    
    The contrast of the band's concert parties against the backdrop of the
    Persian Gulf war has not been lost on the Iron Maiden.  Ironically, the
    band's set already contained a topical showcase, "Tailgunner," a song
    about an extended bombing mission.
    
    "When we played "Tailgunner" the other night, about an hour after we
    found that war had broken out, it was very strange.  Especially with
    the song's intro tape of airplanes buzzing around the air."
    
    "It got all our goosebumps going, because the song really meant
    something that night."
    
    
    The End.
    
    (On the next page, when the article continued, the headline read, IRON
    MAIDEN HAS STEEL GOT IT).
    
    
    
    Goddess F.

    Don't know where to put this, so......
    
    Paul DiAnno has been kicked out of his band Praying Mantis.
    
    Flip

    
    Maiden/Anthrax at Long Beach (CA) Arena (2/22) was as described
    previously. Anthrax won by 7.6 dB. What's that song they're doing
    whose chorus is "Suck my Mother-F*ckin' D*ck!"? Great tune.
    
    Maiden stopped the show briefly so that they could turn up the
    lights and film the audience going "ape-shit" for a video. You'll know
    where it was filmed when you see it later this year. They were
    also doing a bunch of filming near the loge exits of people dressed
    as crash-test dummies.
    
    I was going to bring my daughter, but she can't stay up past 8:30.
    
        Bruce 
    
    

FYI, I got a promo CD last night from the latest Maiden album that has a 
pretty good cover of Zeppelin's "Communication Breakdown".

alan

    
    Paul Di'anno has formed another band called Killers.
    
    Flip

    
Iron Maiden Discography 
    
                  Singles
 
Date     Title                                  Label/cat.no.
--------|--------------------------------------|-----------------
nov '79  The Soundhouse Tapes                   Rock Hard/Rok1          ok1
         Invasion/Iron Maiden/Prowler
    
feb '80  Running Free/Burning Ambition          EMI 5032
    
may '80  Sanctuary/Drifter/I've Got The Fire     "  5065
    
oct '80  Women in Uniform/Invasion               "  5105
    
oct '80    "    "    "       "    /
         Phantom of the Opera  12"           12  "  5105
    
mar '81  Twilight Zone/Wratchchild               "  5145
         on red or clear zinyl/cassette (EMIC 5145)
    
jun '81  Purgatory/Ghengis Khan                 EMI 5184
    
sep '81  Maiden Japan e.p.
         Running Free/Remember Tomorrow/
         Killers/Innocent Exile 12"          12 EMI 5129
    
feb '82  Run to the Hills/Total Eclipse          "  5263
         also on pic. disc (EMIP 5263)
    
apl '82  The Number of the Beast/
         Remember Tomorrow (also on red vinyl)   "  5287
    
apl '83  Flight of Icarus/I've Got the Fire      "  5378
         also on 12" pic disc (12EMIP 5378)
         and cassette (TC IM4)
    
jun '83  The Trooper/Cross Eyed Mary             "  5397
         also on shaped pic. disc (EMIP 5397)
    
aug '84  2 Minutes to Midnight/Rainbow's Gold    "  5489
    
aug '84  "    "     "     "       "        " /
         Mission From 'Arry                  12 EMI 5489
 
oct '84  Ace's High/King of Twilight             "  5502
    
oct '84   "     "    "    "    "    /
         The Number of the Beast             12  "  5502
    
sep '85  Running Free/Sanctuary                  "  5532
    
sep '85     "            "     /
         Murders in the Rue Morgue           12  "  5532
         also on pic disc (12EMIP 5532)
    
dec '85  Run to the Hills/Phantom of the Opera   "  5542
    
dec '85   "   "  "    "      "     "   "   "  /
         Losfer Words                        12  "  5542
         also on pic. disc (12EMIP 5542)
    
aug '86  Wasted Years/Reach Out                  "  5583
         also on shaped pic. disc
    
aug '86  as above/Sheriff of Huddersfield     12 "  5583
    
nov '86  Stranger in a Strange Land/That Girl    "  5589
         limited edition in poster sleeve
    
nov '86  as above/Juanita                    12  "  5589
         also on pic. disc (12EMIP 5589)
    
mar '88  Can I play with Madness/Black Bart Blues    EMI EM 49
         with sticker and transfer (EMS 49)
    
mar '88  as above/Massacre                            "  12EM 49
         also on pic disc (12EMP 49)
         and CD (EMCD 49)
    
may '88  The Evil that Men do/Prowler '88             "  EM 64
         also in gatefold sleeve (EMG 64)
         and shaped pic. disc (EMP 64)
    
may '88  as above/Charlotte the Harlot '88            "  12EM 64
         also in poster sleeve
         and CD (CDEM 64)
    
nov '88  The Clairvoyant/The Prisoner                 "  EM 79
         also in clear vinyl with poster sleeve (EMS 79)
         and a shaped pic. disc (EMP 79)
    
nov '88  as above/Heaven can Wait                    EMI 12EM 79
         also as pic. disc (12EMP 79)
         gatefold sleeve (12EMG 79)
         as CD (CDEM 79)
    
nov '89  Infinite Dreams/Killers                      "  EM 117
         as shaped pic. disc (EMPD 117)
         patch pack (EMS 117)
         cassette (TCEM 117)
    
nov '89  as above/Still Life                          "  12EM 117
         as CD (EMCD 117)
         etched 12" (12EMPX 117)
    
feb '90  Running Free/Burning Ambition/Sanctuary/
         Drifter/I've got the Fire        CD          "  CDIRN 1
         same tracks on double 12" (IRN 1) with
         Listen with Nicko pt.1
    
feb '90  Women in Uniform/Invasion/Phantom of the Opera/
         Twilight Zone/Wrathchild/Listen with Nicko pt.2  EMI CDIRN 2
         also on double 12" (IRN 2)
    
feb '90  Purgatory/Ghenghis Khan/Running Free/
         Remember Tomorrow/Killers/Innocent Exile/
         Listen with Nicko pt.3                            "     "  3
         also on double 12" (IRN 3)
    
mar '90  Run to the Hills/Total Eclipse/The Number of the
         Beast/Remember Tomorrow/Listen with Nicko pt.4    "     "  4
         also on double 12" (IRN 4)
    
mar '90  Flight of the Icarus/I've got the Fire/The Trooper/
         Cross Eyed Mary/Listen with Nicko pt.5            "     "  5
         also on double 12" (IRN 5)
    
mar '90  2 Minutes to Midnight/Rainbows Gold/Mission from
         'Arry/Aces High/King of Twilight/The Number of
         the Beast/Listen with Nicko pt.6                  "     "  6
         also on double 12" (IRN 6)
    
mar '90  Running Free/Murders in the Rue Morgue/Run to     "     "  7
         the Hills/Phantom of the Opera/Losfer Words/
         Listen with Nicko pt.7
         also on double 12" (IRN 7)
    
mar '90  Wasted Years/Reach Out/Sheriff of Huddersfield/   "     "  8
         Stranger in a Strange Land/That Girl/Juanita/
         Listen With Nicko pt.7
         also on double 12" (IRN 8)
    
mar '90  Can I Play With Madness/Black Bart Blues/Massacre/"     "  9
         The Evil That Men Do/Prowler '88/Charlotte the
         Harlot/Listen with Nicko pt.9
         also on double 12" (IRN 9)
    
mar '90  The Clairvoyant/The Prisoner/Heaven can Wait/     "     "  10
         Infinite Dreams/Killers/Still Life/
         Listen with Nicko pt.10
         also on double 12" (IRN 9)
    
sep '90  Holy Smoke/All in Your Mind                       EMI EM 153
         also cassette (TCEM 153)
    
sep '90  as above/Kill Me Ce Soir
         also pic. disc (12 EMPD 153)
         as CD (CDEM 153)
    
jan '91  Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter/I'm A Mover   "   " 171
         with etched second side
         also on pic. disc in special 'brain' pack (EMPD 171)
         also cassette (TCEMC 171)
    
jan '91  as above/Communication Breakdown                   EMI 12EMP 17
         with banner calendar (EMI EM ...)
         as pic. disc (12EMPD 171)
 
         Albums
 
Date
feb '80  Metal For Muthas vol.1                         EMI EMC 3318
         only 2 tracks-Sanctuary and Wrathchild
         both quite raw.
    
apr '80  Iron Maiden                                     "   "  3330
         re-issued on Fame (FA 41 3121) may '85
    
oct '80  Axe Attack                                     K-TEL NE 1100
         one demo track-Running Force
    
feb '81  Killers                                        EMI EMC 3357
         re-issued on Fame (FA 41 3122) may '85
    
mar '82  The Number of the Beast                        EMI EMC 3400
         also on pic. disc (EMCP 3400)
         re-issued on Fame (FA 3178) may '87
    
may '83  Piece of Mind                                  EMI EMA 800
         some copies in gatefold sleeve
    
sep '84  Powerslave                                     EMI POWER 1
         also on pic. disc (POWERP 1)
    
oct '85  Live After Death                               EMI RIP 1
    
sep '86  Somewhere in Time                              EMI EMC 3512
    
may '87  Interview pic. disc                            Baktabak BAK 203
    
apr '88  Seventh Son of a Seventh Son                   EMI EMD 1006
         also on pic. disc (EMPD 1006)
         with free banner
    
sep '90  No Prayer for the Dying                        EMI EMD 1017
 

    
    
    	From the Boston Herald 5/22/91 w/out permission...
    
    
    	Iron Maiden has joined forces with Vince and Larry, the safety belt
    crash dummies for the US Dept. of Transportation, to encourage America's
    youth to buckle up.
    
    	Three 30 second public service announcements show the dummies attending
    a Maiden concert, during which Bruce Dickinson reminds conertgoers to use
    seatbelts.
    
    	The PSA's are scheduled to air later this month.
                                                        

    The Number Of The Beast
    
    
    Woe to you o' Earth and Sea
    For the Devil sends the beast with wrath
    Because he knows the time is short
    Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast
    For it is a human number; it's number is six hundred and sixty-six
    
    I left alone, my mind was blank
    I needed time to think, to get the memories from my mind
    What did I see?  Could I believe
    That what I saw that night was real and not just fantasy?
    Just what I saw in my own dreams
    Were they reflections of my woman staring back at me?
    Cuz in my dreams, it's always there
    The evil face that twists my mind and brings me to despair
    YAAAAAAAAAA!
    
    Night was black, was no use holding back
    Cuz I just had to see, was someone watching me?
    In the mist, dark fingers move and twist
    Was all this for real, or just some kind of hell?
    666-The number of the beast
    Hell and fire were sworn to be released!
    
    Torches blazed and sacred chants of rage
    As they start to cry, hands held to the sky
    In the night the fires are burning bright
    The ritual has begun, Satan's work is done
    666-The number of the beast
    Sacrifice is going on tonight
    
    (mean solo)
    
    This can't go on, I must inform the law 
    Can this still be real, or just some crazy dream?
    But I feel drawn towards the chanting hordes
    Seem to mesmorize, can't avoid their eyes
    666-The number of the beast
    666-The one for you and me
    
    I'm coming back, I will return!
    And I'll posess your body and I'll make you burn!
    I have the fire, I have the force!
    I have the power to make my evil take it's course!
    
    
    
    See, that was harmless wasn't it Mikey??  These are the words to the
    best of my knowledge. They are not included in the jacket, so I had to
    listen to it a few times to get this.  
    
    Although I'm sure if you played it backwards, you would get something
    totally different...
    
    
    ;pril

    
    	First a correction, the music and lyrics to the song were written
    	by Steve Harris. Bruce didn't do any contributing to the writing
    	until Piece of Mind.
    
>>Woe to you o' Earth and Sea
>>For the Devil sends the beast with wrath
>>Because he knows the time is short
>>Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast
>For it is a human number; it's number is six hundred and sixty-six
    
>    This is very cool, but then again, it's god's word, not Bruce D's,
    
	I agree.    

        
>>I left alone, my mind was blank
>>I needed time to think, to get the memories from my mind
>>What did I see?  Could I believe
>>That what I saw that night was real and not just fantasy?
>>Just what I saw in my own dreams
>>Were they reflections of my woman staring back at me?
>>Cuz in my dreams, it's always there
>>The evil face that twists my mind and brings me to despair
    
	The whole song is about a dream. The reference to his woman
    	could be a vague reference to Charlotte the Harlot (trilogy). 
    	The evil face is in reference to the devil.
    

    
>>Night was black, was no use holding back
>>Cuz I just had to see, was someone watching me?
>>In the mist, dark fingers move and twist
>>Was all this for real, or just some kind of hell?
    
	This is were he sees hell in his dream. Each verse progresses
    	through the dream. Alot of bands write like that.
    

    
            
>>Torches blazed and sacred chants of rage
>>As they start to cry, hands held to the sky
>>In the night the fires are burning bright
>>The ritual has begun, Satan's work is done
    
 	This is more on hell and people worshipping the devil.
   
    
         
>>This can't go on, I must inform the law 
>>Can this still be real, or just some crazy dream?
>>But I feel drawn towards the chanting hordes
>>Seem to mesmorize, can't avoid their eyes
    
 	This is where the person having the dream is reacting to
    	everything he's seeing. His offeneded, but at the same time
    	the devil is starting to get the person in it's grip.
   
    
         
>>I'm coming back, I will return!
>>And I'll posess your body and I'll make you burn!
>>I have the fire, I have the force!
>>I have the power to make my evil take it's course!
    
	This is the devil speaking to the person having the dream.
    
    
    	    
>>666-The number of the beast
>>Hell and fire were sworn to be released!
    
>    And the chorus has NOTHING to do with the verses!!
    
  	Steve Harris was never good at writting chorus'. 
    
    	/prc  

    Rappers are kinda like bikers ... all it takes is one bad one to taint
    the view of the entire crowd.  I can appreciate the ones that talk in a
    constructive way, but the ones that go on and on about `the man keeping
    them down' and `I'm such a good MC ...' really chap my a$$.  I wouldn't
    give you the change in my pocket for the whole lot ...
    
    Scary (nasty as I wanna be ...)

    Has anyone heard of a new albumfor maiden. I though I heard that a new
    one would be out sometime after the new year..... Help
    
    
    
    Chris.
    

    re: Pete
    
    I think he means a new one slated for next year.
    
    gh

I'm curious.

Anyone know what Eddies last name is ??

The "Live After Death" cover shows Eddie (naturally ;), and behind him is a 
tombstone that says "Edward T. ..."

Whats the "T" stand for ??  What is is full name ??

What does the quote from HD Lovecraft say ??

BTW - I set this note "/write"

Mods,
Any idea as to why it wasn't set that way to begin with ??

jc

    Eddie's full name is "Eddie the 'ead" ('ead :== head)
    
    When Eddie was first conceived by Harris, it only consisted of a head,
    hence the name...

    
    I can't read the quote from the .gif I have. I'm not sure what the
    "T" stands for.

I guess "T" stands for "The"    :)

Cool info...

jc (Set mode/curious=eddie)

    
    Pete, I'm surprised you didn't know that....
    
    Flip

    Is the H.P Lovecraft quote:
    
       "Quoth the Raven nevermore"
    
    Just a guess!
    
    
    GAZ

    
    That's EDGAR ALLEN POE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    jeez, you gotta know your 19th century lterature.
    
    8)
    
    Chris, who is a horror-maniac, yet get's scared everytim I walk through
    a graveyard

    Re: -1.  Whoops you are so right!  I always get those 2 mixed up! 
    Hardly surprising though as I haven't got too the 19th century yet.
    
    
    
    GAZ

    
    Well, I know about Eddie the head, and the history of all that but I
    didn't equate it with the tombstone. Brunettes are ditz's too ya know.
    8-)

    I thought it was,
    
    "Quoth the bookie, Rams by 4"

    The quote on the headstone is:
    
    			  THAT IS NOT DEAD
    			WHICH CAN ETERNAL LIE
    			YET WITH STRANGE AEONS
    			 EVEN DEATH MAY DIE
    
    Cheers
    Mark

    
    To throw in as dead weight...
    
    Iron Maiden holds the record for the biggest crowd at Donnington.
    
    Jus' thot I'd menchun that
    
    Chris

    
    Yeah, so there you unbelievers! 8-P

    Yeah, so THAIR! (tm)

    'twas still a shite show thou'  8^) x 187932

    
    Err, I beg to differ...there also happened to be bands like Kiss,
    Helloween, GNR, DLR there that day.
    
    

    
    Furthermore, that record for the number of people will never be beaten. 
    It was at that show that the two poeple got stomped to death and since
    then they have restricted the numbers.
    
    

    I didn`t think Iron Maiden were that good actually.Kiss were better
    IMO.
    
    Then again,by that stage i was collapsed at the back of the field in
    a drunken stupor which didn`t help.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    
    Kiss better? You must have been drunk!

    
    i don't recall Kiss being on the bill. I do recall GnR and Helloween.
    
    Ahh, they restricted the numbers cause it's a conspiracy against all 
    non-maiden fans... 8)
    
    Kiss better than Maiden?!?!?!? You can't be from Europe.... 8)
    
    
    Chris

    
    KISS completely inhales. What a truly pathetic comparison.
    
    Thje next thing we'll hear is that KISS writes more complex 
    material than Maiden.
    
    /prc

    
    Or has better album covers and better name and better insignia...
    all the things you [buck] mentioned make a band.... 8)
    
    Early Kiss was good but the 80's kiss...
    
    I'd rather listen to my dog fart when he's constipated
    
    Chris, jus' sittin' here

    
    > KISS
    
    I'd rather listen to someone dieing as they get run over by a steam roller!

    
    > Kiss
    
    I'd like to hear THEM getting run over by a steam roller.
    
    
    Chris

    
    
    I'd like to hear their retirement announcement!

    ... but then they'd have a comeback tour ... we'd never be rid of them!
    
    Scary

     What is this the KISS bash note?
    
                IMNSHO--- They both INHALE!!!!!!!!!
    
                      Frizkid
    

    Actually,Kiss wisely chose to play mainly their 70`s stuff. (Parasite,
    Deuce,Cold Gin,Firehouse,Detroit Rock City etc,etc).
    
    C`mon,the 70`s stuff ain`t too bad. 
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    
    To try in get this topic back on track....
    
    There is no base for comparison. These two groups are widely
    diversified, Kiss being MAJORLY commercial and Maiden being MAJORLY
    talented. Now a lot of people are gonna say...Kiss is way more talented
    than Maiden....Take a good listen to their albums....Harris is 100
    times the bassist Simons is. Dickinson can out sing Stanley anyday,
    The guitarist (name slips me right now) is no where near being as
    talented as Dave Murray (or Janick Gers) and the drummer (once again slips)
    is a musical ant compared to the elephant Nicko McBrain.
    
    Chris, probably gonna cause more controversy

    
    
    	Just because a band is majorly commercial does'nt mean they 
    	are not talented... Gotta remember their music is COMMERCIAL
    	which does include alot of insane playing, Dinosaur gallaps..
    	etc...
    
    	Alot of insane playin would be considered overplaying and
    	overkill!! 
    
    	I know of a guatarist that played in a MEGA poser band that
    	would BLOW away anyone from Kiss or Maiden!!
    
    	And another guy is the Git player from Enuff'z'Nuff.. he used
    	to be on Shrapnel records as one of those speed players, but 
    	switched to what sells!

    
    Yeah' but Enuff Z nuff isn't sellin'.
    
    I'm not puttin down Kiss altogether. I'm just sayin that the new stuff
    they're puttin out is terrible. It's as if they write songs just to get
    airplay....
    
    
    Chris, IMHO

    
    KISS isn't selling tht well either these days, nothing compared to the
    old days.

    
    
    
    Don't get me wrong, I'm not stickin up for Kiss.. I don't really
    care for Kiss, Just the musicians that are playin commercial music
    that get labelled as no-talent bozos... 
    
    
    Steve Via's a poser! ;') 

    
    That's true. Alot of 'em are real monsters but because of what they do
    the record companies won't let them expand and show it off.
    
    The heavier stuff you do, the more you don't fall into that trap,
    depending on the label.
    
    

    
    
    RE:-1
    
    Yup! 

    re: Kiss .vs. Maiden
    
    Maybe the musicianship in Maiden is higher then that in Kiss, but Kiss
    write music in infinately more versatile styles then Maiden.  Like some
    of the songs ACTUALLY are in (get this) different keys, at (woah)
    different tempos, with (you're gonna love it...) DIFFERENT RHYTHM
    PATTERNS.
    
    Something to consider.  How "good" can you call a band that plays songs
    that all sound alike?
    
    gh
      

    
    
    Maiden's tunez do not all sound alike, you MUST be high.

    
    and KISS's songs are still shit. Completely.

    I used to be a total Maiden fanatic but got completely bored with their
    sound and how boring they were on stage but now with the addition of
    Janick Jers,they all run about like possessed men but unfortunately the
    sound is the same.I still perfer these characters than Kiss,they have
    had their time and now its time to give.Everyone has favourite Kiss
    tunes and the majority would be from the 70's.
    
    
                                                 Staynz

    What does anyone think of the latest album? To me,the songwriting
    is amateurish sounding like a bunch of 16 year olds from Ipswich in
    their first band. Especially Mother Russia,which just makes me cringe.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    
    I like everything except for the song that Adrian Smith wrote.
    
    Seventh Son, the one before it is *&$#@+ incredible.
    
    

    I've been meaning to write something about it ...
    
    Personally, I like it a lot.  I really haven't had a chance to listen
    to it REAL carefully, but it's enjoyable.  I've also been listing to
    `Live After Death' a lot lately, great stuff ....
    
    Scary

    
    RE: G_H
    
    I don't want hard feelings or anything, but who are you listening to.
    It can't be maiden....
    
    IRON MAIDEN  \
    KILLERS       - Have different singer. All instrument sounds are raw.
    MAIDEN JAPAN /
    
    The NUmber of the Beast \ 
                             - They sound VAGUELY alike. The closest any
    No Prayer for the dying /  2 IM albums alike (disreguarding 1st 3)
    
    Piece of mind -less distortion, more finger board action.
    
    Powerslave - Back to distortion, fast and crunchy (TM). Drums shine.
    
    Some Where In time - much less distortion. Instuments take a back seat
                         to vocals, but they are not left out.
    
    Seventh Son - Keyboards, 18 different gituars, Organ, orchestra, yeah
                  that sounds a lot like all the other IM albums!
    
    
    i should take offense since IM is my FAVORITE BAND OF ALL TIME....but I
    won't, why you say, cause it's your opinion.
    
    'nuff said
    
    Chris/BPR

    re: .305
    
    Maiden.... boring on stage!!??  Come on!  There's a lot more excitement 
    on stage during a Maiden show than for Kiss!  Maybe back in the 70's
    when they had makeup on, and Gene spit blood and fire you could have
    something to compare to, but not now......
    
    |KS|
    

    
    Exactly....Maiden is one of the most energenic band around, with the
    addition of Janick Gers the band is probably the most energenic band..
    a few examples:
    
    1) Nicko Mcbrain doesn't sit his ass behind the drum kit all night. He
       gets up and moves about. He doesn't flash the audience with his Rear
       cheeks either....that's a posuer move.
    
    2) Steve Harris was always bouncing and jumping. He leaps over the
       stage indents like he was running the 100 meter hurdle. The Best
       bassist in metal AND rock, Musically, Lyrically, and Energenically.
    
    3) Bruce does a lot more crowd orientated stuff now-a-days. A lot of
       patter and a lot of jumping around, loves to start off those
       sing-a-longs.
    
    4) The 'Post-Gers' Dave Murray just stood and played. Now he moves
       about hardly ever standing still (even in solos!) Whether it's
       messing with Janick, or Steve Or floppin' around with Nicko...dave
       is not the same player he was before the smith leaving.
    
    5) Janick Gers. The guy never touches the same place on the stage
       twice. He plays while running. Plays while foolin' with the big
       eddie, plays his guitar ON the p.a. system. (and it sounds good).
       The most energenic guy in the band.
    
    That's it for now....IM not exciting....that's funny.
    
    
    
    Chris/BPR

    And even when Dave Murray *was* just standing in one spot, he would
    still get on Bruce's shoulders like they were chicken-fighting, and run
    about the stage for a bit.  I always thought that was great!
    

    
    
    
    RE:Kiss vs Maiden
    
    
    They both bore me live.
    
    J  >yawn<  W-

Gee, I'd hate to see them bore you dead...*8)

    
    Adrian "boring silly scarf wearer" Smith and Dave "I'm a fat git who
    wobbles when I run" Murray always looked like their feet had been glued 
    to the stage - no stage presence whatsoever.
    
    Now Yanick - he has tons of energy and presence. I'd like to see the new
    line-up. I met him the aother day at Alice Coopers party (name
    dropper eh? 8) ) and he is one of the nicest guys you'd ever hope to
    meet.
    
    -Tony

    
    
    	RE:pril
    
    	Nope, not dead... just into a coma...

    
    RE: -2
    
    	I did meet him....he is way cool

    
    re: .316
    
    Jim, I can't believe it!

    
    
    
    	Wha?! what I do? 
    
    	okokokok... let me clearify myself...
    
    
    	I saw them on the Powerslave tour.. show was cool.. that was when
    	I was really into them.. but in IMO they went downhill from there,
    	and got boring to me, and I never had the urge to buy any of the 
    	new stuff..... 
    
    	Same as Kiss, They reached their peek, then went downhill also...
    
    	But all in all... I'd have to say I liked them both around the same
    	time frame, But liked Maiden more outta the both of them... 
    
    	Now I can go without listening to either one of them....
    
    
    	JW- 

    FOR THE RECORD:
    
               IRON MAIDEN SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
           Frizkid
    

    
    Considering the source of the comment, we'll ignore that. 8-)

    
    Comparing these two groups is like comparing Apples and Oranges, yea
    there both Fruits but, depending on your taste your going to like one
    better then the other...
    
    Kiss and Maiden have two totally diffrent styles of music which both
    fall under the classification of Heavy Metal...  
    
    I've seen Maiden 2 times, the Powerslave tour was great the Lost In
    Time tour a so, so.... I've never seen Kiss but, depending on what 
    they played I think it could be a really good show.  Some of there 
    older stuff of Destroyer, Rock and Roll Over, Dressed to Kill is really
    good stuff.  
    
    The bottom line both would be enjoyable if you liked there music but, 
    would be pretty boring if you didn't.....
    
    Dan

    
    The Bottom line is........
    			      |
    			      |
    			      |  
                              |
                              |
    			     \|/
           		      `
                      MAIDEN FUDGING RULES!!!!
    				^
    				|
    				|---- (TM)
    
    And To hell with those who think not!!!!!                      8)
    
    
    Chris	

      Guess I'm going to hell.......
                      But it's better than listening to Iron Maiden!!
    
                                          jazzzzzzzzzzzzz
    
          
                     

    my point was a few remrks ago was,IM needed the big back drops and
    light shows 'cause Murray and Smith were soooo boring.Sure Dickinson
    ran about as did Harris but guitarists.......nope!!Now Janick Gers is
    on the scene it seems like he's given Murray a boot up the arse and
    everybody charges about stage,hence no big stage productions,just
    intense rock!!Another thing Eddie is kinda stupid looking,especially
    in the somewhere in time guise.The 7th son etc was cool though!!
    
                                   Staynz

    In fairness to Iron Maiden,i think they`ve "kept up with the times"
    so speak,and don`t strike me as a plundering old dinosaur band
    (ala Sabbath or Purple). I just wish Paul D`Ianno was still in the
    band.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    Paul D'Ianno was definately a better singer.Dickinson seems to strain
    himself (vocally  8)..)sometimes.
    
    
    
                                                  Staynz

    
    I agree, except...Dickinson is ten times the singer... try and picture
    D'Ianno singin' anything off of Somewhere in time!
    
    
    Chris/HMBP

    
    I've been listening to 7th Son alot lately, Maiden's only true
    concept album. Excellent, excellent stuff. Makes good mood music
    too. I can't wait to hear the next one. I think it'll go back
    to somehwere in between the sound on 7th Son and the sound on
    No Prayer...
    
    IMHO...

    
    Rumors are divided between Maiden still writing, and them recording.
    I haven't heard anything definite.

    Dave Murray:  "Gee, I just can't think of any new ways to arrange these
    		   E, D, and C chords we always use?!?"
    
    Steve Harris: "Well, Dave, why don't you just move them all up one fret,
                   so that they are F, Eb, and Db chords?"
    
    Dave Murray:  [long pause]  ".....ah, I just can't seem to do anything
                  with these E, D and C chords?!"

    
    oh boy do we get to argue about Maiden now... where's FrizKid?

    
    I'm not getting into it again. I love Iron Maiden, always have,
    always will.

    re: Buck
    
    I am ROLLIN!!!!!

    
    Buck, if Maiden is so easy, could you teach me how to play some
    of it? Seriously. I have a basic understanding of bar chords.
    
    

    
    He showed me the ending of Hallowed Be Thy Name the other day....of
    course I forgot it by the time I got hom...

    Sure.

    
    >> Buck, if Maiden is so easy, could you teach me how to play some
    >> of it? Seriously. I have a basic understanding of bar chords.
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    You're over qualified!

    
    8-)

    Iron Maiden are at work on a new album set for spring release, and
    Bruce D. has a personal project scheduled for the same time: the birth
    of his second child.
    
                 Frizkid
    

    
    As far as the subject of Maiden goes, If they put out another album
    like No Prayer (only a few worth mentioning tracks) they are headed for
    the dumpster.

    
    
    Heading for the dumpster? I think they already hit it!! 
    

    
    Jim, stifle yourself! 8-)

    
    
    8') 
    
    Sorry Pete... ;')

    Alright Jim!!

    Just another album to nail the coffin shut....
    
                   Frizkid
    

    
    You'll be proved wrong  and shown to be the blasphemers that you are!
    You're suffering will be legendary!

    >You're suffering will be legendary!
    
    No it won't, I refuse to listen to the new album!!

    
    Wait wait wait...
    
    Give them a chance. I will give in and agree that they are in the
    dumpster IF and only IF the next album is like Prayer....
    
    I refuse to say that SIT and 7of7 are bad albums. 

    re:Buck    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
             I'm dying over here......
    
     Pete....I think that title would be great for the next album!!
    Send it in to the Up the Irons fan club at
    
            1000 B.C. Dinosaur st.
               Bore, England 
                        666-666
    Or call the hotline:
    1-900-HOW-ARE-WE-GOING-TO-WRITE-MORE-SONGS-WITH-THESE-TWO-CHORDS?
    
                     FRIZKID
    

Re:  Buck.  Thats what I like an open mind. NOT!


GAZ

    Bring back Paul D'ianno for godsake! Them were the days, down to the
    Rainbow and the Marquee, Dennis Stratton on guitar, he was about 50
    then :^), Clive Burr thumping the tubs, and all those good punk
    edged toons. The last time Maiden were anywhere near vital IMHO.
    
    barry.  
                                                         

    Driving in this morning listening to "Somewhere in Time" I was pretty
    much thinking the same thing...The 1st album, Killers, even # of the
    Beast. They're more recent stuff isn't bad but ity ain't like the 1st
    stuff...
    
    JMO
    
    jeff

    the first album rools and does no. of the beast as they go on,the
    albums get worse.
    
    
    
                                               Staynz

    Iron Maiden will be headlining this year's Donnington festival.
    I heard the new single at the weekend and was pleasently
    surprised. You can still hear the Dave Murray trademark but
    Steve Harris' bass does'nt register it's usual, overwhelming
    clicking noise.                                        
    
    barry. 

    Yeah,too right.
    
    Give me the good British raw sound of 'Iron Maiden','Killers' and 
    'Maiden Japan',when metal fans were "headbangers",and everyone had greasy
    hair,dandruff,beer guts and it wuz 95% blokes.
    
    Er,forget that "95% blokes" bit.
    
    

    
    and then they introduced shampoo.
    

    One of Maiden's finest moments has to be their version of "Women 
    in Uniform." Hands up who remembers the Top of the Pops live
    version of that? I recall "Running Free" going live as well
    with an introduction along the lines of "The first band to play
    live in the studio since The Who back in...."
    
    barry.

    re.358
    
    it was eight years between Iron Maiden playing live and the Who.I never
    actually saw it but I have a video about Maiden telling this.
    
    
                                                                 Staynz

    Alriiiiiiiiiight!         .....Ahem.
    
    Hope it's good.   :')

 >   It's been getting KILLER reviews!
    
    Has it?  How do the reviews compare with those of their last album?
    

    
    I saw the new Iron Maiden video for their new song.  I can't for the
    life of me remember what the name of it was.  
    
    So, I thought the video itself was pretty boring.   I thought the song
    was pretty cool.  It has the trademark Iron Maiden sound to it, but it
    seems as though they have finally to write NEW songs, not the usual
    rehash.  IMO.
    
    
    Goddess F.

    I'm impressed with the new song,it seems to better than anything
    they've done it ages!
    
    
                                                Staynz

    Pete, I'd like those gifs!  At least the ones I don't already have. 
    (Too bad they're b&w)
    
    I tried sending you mail, but your node is unreachable.
    
    

    I tried too.....whats the problem,Pete?
    
    
    
                                                Staynz

       If it's the same song....  they are the reining champs on
    WAAF's Rock Wars with a song called "Think Quick Or Die."  I
    can't how they can make videos out of real heavy music.  It
    doesn't do any justice......  I liked the song though....
    
    BJ

    
    HAsn't the album been released over here?  Lots of promo in the shops.

    The album was released yesterday I believe, I think the cover is Eddie
    sitting on a branch or something.
    
    Mark

    
    
    Well, I picked it up and then I put it back down again and bought Rush
    - permanent waves instead.  Wise choice, me thinks.
    
    Flip

    Well, all I'll say is Perm Wves is my 2nd fav Rush album of all time
    ... Enjoy!

    
    2112 sounds like the soundtrack to the Jesus Christ superstar musical. 
    8^)  Moving pictures and Hemispheres are my favourites...at the moment.
    
    Flip

    Yes. I`m sure Hemispheres is very good,but it`s difficult to remember
    seeing that i haven`t heard it for so long (hint,hint). Or Moving
    Pictures come to that (hint,hint,hint).
    
    Actually,you might as well keep `em. I stopped listening to Rush
    years ago. Buy me a pint sometime or wotever.
     

    
    That's amazing seeing as you didn't lend me moving pictures!  HA HA 
    Now if you were moaning about A Farewell to Kings or Grace Under
    pressure, I could sympathise with ya.  8^)
    
    I'll give 'em back...tell ya what, when I get them on CD I'll even let
    you make a better quality recording of em.
    
    

    If i`m right in thinking,you`ve got Moving Pictures with Caress of
    Steel on a Sony 90 min tape,and Tom Sawyer sudenly goes quiet? Er,or
    am i cracking up?
    
    Still,keep `em or bin `em. Or eat them. Or wotever.
    

    
    Now you've got me confused.  Either way, they're not shifting from my
    stereo until I've a) taped 'em and
    		      b) analysed the sticky substance on the box.....
    
    

    Yes. I wonder what that sticky stuff is. Strangely enough,it was okay
    before i stuck it in my pocket.
    
    er,only joking.
    

    Hey Pete...Just watch out for that big dinosaur when it falls on ya.
    
                8)<--------Frizkid
    

    Its good to see that Dave Murray is doing a lot more song writing.I
    always thought that he could do more or maybe he's just a lazy git!!
    
    
    
                                                 Staynz

    I heard three songs from this new album while driving across Kansas
    yesterday (thank heaven for college radio...)  I've also heard another
    one.
    
    Basically, they sounded very "Maiden-esque", but sort of missing
    something.  The first thing that bothered me was Bruce Dickinson's
    voice.  He sounds all raspy and seems to have lost a lot of his range. 
    He was just kind of shouting out a lot of the lyrics instead of really
    singing them like he used to. 
    
    The next thing that bugged me was that as far as I could tell, the
    guitar solos were completely directionless.  It was like, "Let's blast a
    bunch of random notes out here and hope it flys".  It didn't for me. 
    Seemed like the old songs had a lot of cool, memorible solos in 'em,
    the only thing memorible about these was how terrible they were.
    
    I suppose that if I could have gotten past those two things I'd
    probably like the songs, but they bothered me enough that I won't be
    buying the album anyway, so they probably won't get the chance.
    
    As it happened, I was much happier when the "Maiden set" was over and
    that station played some music by the Henry Rollins Band and some cool
    local stuff.  I think IM should probably have retired a couple of
    albums ago.
    
    gh

    Pete,
    
    The songs I've heard are:
    
    Be Quick or Be Dead, The Fugitive, Fear of the Dark, and the title
    track.
    
    gh

    
    The title track is Fear of the Dark. A classic Iron Maiden tune for
    sure.

    Oh yeah, then I heard another one too, but I don't remember the
    title... 
    
    Gh

    
    The more I hear this, the more I like it. There's songs on this that
    even Friz would like.
    
    One song I don't like is, The Fugitive. I also don't like the chorus
    in From here to Eternity, but I like the rest of the song.
    
    /prc

    Me?   Is there stuff like the stuff on Peice of Mind or Number of
    the Beast?
    
         Frizkid
    

    
    Their sound has matured since then with this, but there are a couple
    of songs that I think you might like, as far as your style of music
    goes, combined with the classic Maiden style.

    Cool....I'll check it out before I start making blind degrading
    statements. 8)    What does the cover look like?
    
           Frizkid
    

    
    It's a blue background with a picture of a tree on it, with Eddie
    as part of the tree. Hard to explain!

    re . the cover
    
    In a word, cr*p. Derek Riggs offers up some painfully amatuerish 
    art-work sometimes, this being no exception. "Powerslave" would
    be my choice as the last decent thing he designed. I lost touch
    after that. Were there any more embarrasing efforts? 

    Correct me if i`m wrong,cuz this is only a guess,but am i right in
    thinking that Derek Riggs doesn`t do the cover art anymore? They seem
    to differently painted (definitely worse),and i can`t see that
    distinctive 'R'signature anymore.
    
    The best picture in my opinion wuz on the Purgatory single. (Which i
    once had,and is now worth 75 quid i notice).Arrgh!!
    

    75 quid for an original picture cover of "Purgatory"??? I've still 
    got "Twilight Zone", which never appeared on a UK released album.
    Any idea on it's worth? I've also got the original 12" of "Women 
    in Uniform" with "Invaders" and a live at the Marquee version of 
    "Phantom of the Opera." Worth anything? Whilst on the subject
    how about the original Bludgeon Riffola "Getcha Rocks Off" EP
    by Def Leppard? That's got to be worth something. Ahemm.....
     
    barry. 

    I saw the "getch rocks off" single for 10 quid in Edinburgh..!
    I've got a big pile of 12 inch singles imports and all from
    Maiden,can't remember what I have got but I haven't got the original
    "running free" or "purgatory" but I have all the rest.I also have the 
    12 inch single that had Thatcher on the front after Eddie had just
    killed her(good idea)"without" the covered eyes.
       Women in uniform was a damn fine single.
    
    
                                                 Staynz

    Thatcher being knifed by Eddie is the "Sanctuary" single. One 12"
    I regret not picking up was "Live Plus One" which was originally
    a Jap release. I think it had a damned good version of "Drifter"
    on it, again recorded at The Marquee in 1980. There used to be
    this great shop just next to Hammersmith Odeon where I'd spend
    hours sifting through all those Japanese imports. There was that
    place and the old Shades shop, just off Wardour Street, before they 
    turned it into a basement shop. Hang on, we're getting into "Looks
    Familiar" territory here.   

    Thats right "sanctuary" another wonderful wee ditty from 'Maiden.Fast,
    thrashy and tuneless.........excellant!!
    
                                                 Staynz

    Aye,the early Maiden stuff is the best - back when they were verging
    on being a punk band.
    
    Sell those singles! They`ll be worth a fair bit. 75 quid for Purgatory
    wuz in London. Mind you,the same shop wuz selling a Beatles single for
    200 quid. 
    
    Also,i notice my Iron Maiden "The Tropper" pic disc is worth 25 quid,
    as is my Def Leppard pic disk of "Rock of Ages". That Bludgeon Riffola
    single is worth oooh,at a guess,a good 100 quid. Er,maybe. Try looking
    in Record Collector magazine for a price.
    

    Derek Riggs definately did the cover art for 7th Son.  Which, IMO was
    way better than the cover for Powerslave!  (Ugh!)
    
    Don't know about their last two...
    

    did Derek Riggs do the cover of "somewhere in time"?Its not that good,
    especially the drawings on the back of the band!
    
                                                      Staynz

    
    Yes.

    FWIW-I heard/saw the new Maiden song Be Quick Or Be Dead.
    Truely the best song I've heard since Peice Of Mind or Powerslave.
    
     I like it alot....I'll have to hear more to buy the album though.
    
               Frizkid
    

    
    Cool. Shouldn't be long to MA.

    Where are they playing in MA? 
    
    
    	Brian

    
    Iron Maiden/Testament in Michigan on June 20.

    
    	Are you going?  8^)
    
    							GTI

    
	June 19, Cleveland Ohio. Iron Maiden, Testament, and
	Corrosion of Conformity.
 
 	June 21, Chicago Illinois.
    
    	They should be here soon.

    
       June 16th at the Montreal Forum...
 

I've seen some great shows there.

    
    The way I figure it, they should be here in July.

    I wouldn't mind seeing the Corrosion of Conformity.I've heard 2 songs
    from the new album "dance of the dead"and the completely f*ckin'
    excellant "vote with a bullet"Does anyone have the album for a quick
    review?
    
    
                                                Staynz

    
    Atlanta, GA. July 12.

    
    They should be here in late July then. Time to start harrassing the
    Centrum.

    
    	Ever wonder what the backwards message is before Still Life
    	on Peice of Mind?
    
	"What ho! said the thing with the three bonce. Don't mess with 
    	things you don't understand."
 
	(bonce is another word for head)
 

    Cool! I've always wondered what that was....
    
            Friz
    

    Hmmm, now I wonder who could have penned that odd quote...could it have
    been...oh, I donno...
    
    
    
    
    
    					SATAN?!

  >  	Ever wonder what the backwards message is before Still Life
  >  	on Peice of Mind?
    
    Yeah, but not for long!  :')
    
    Except I didn't realize it was 'bonce'..... I thought they said
    'bumps', but if bonce means head, you must be right... it makes more
    sense that way.
    
    BTW, anyone see Headbangers ball over the weekend?  Bruce Dickinson &
    Nikko McBrain were 'da hosts.  They were ragging on some of the videos
    claiming G&R's November Rain put them to sleep, and making fun of the
    title to Def Leppards 'Make Love Like A Man'.
    
    It went something like this...
    
    Bruce:  Do you... make love like a man?
    
    Nikko:  Oh, all the time!
    
    Bruce:  Of course!  You would, wouldn't you seeing as how you are... a
            man!
    
    Nikko:  Yes.  of course if I was a woman I guess I'd make love like a
            woman!
    

    
    What a riot! I wish I caught it. Nicko is a freaking RIOT!!!!!!!
    
    I love the "talk with nicko" peices on the 1`0th anniversary cd's.

 >   I love the "talk with nicko" peices on the 1`0th anniversary cd's.
    
    Yeah!  I only have one, but it's pretty funny when he tells this
    joke...
    
    
    If the answer to the question is "my cock robin" what's the question?
    
    
    What's that in my *ss back there!  
    
    
    (...I had to think about it for a second to make sure it was indeed a
    heterosexual joke!)
    
    Ken
    

    
    Bwahahahahaha!
    
    I have four of them and I can't find the others!

From: [email protected] (Clark Olson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Iron Maiden / Testament / C.O.C.
Date: 2 Jul 1992 19:31:19 GMT
 
I saw the Iron Maiden/Testament/Corrosion Of Conformity show at the
Cow Palace in San Francisco last night.  Iron Maiden set list was as follows:
 
Be Quick Or Be Dead
The Number of the Beast
Wrathchild
From Here To Eternity
Wasting Love
Tailgunner
The Evil That Men Do
Afraid To Shoot Strangers
Fear Of The Dark
The Clairvoyant
Heaven Can Wait
Run To The Hills
Two Minutes To Midnight
Iron Maiden
 
Encore:
 
Hallowed Be Thy Name
The Trooper
Sanctuary
 
Overall, a very satisfying concert, although I would have like to have seen
a few more songs from Powerslave or earlier (e.g. Aces High, Powerslave, 
Murders In The Rue Morgue, Charlotte The Harlot.)  The only played one
song off each of Powerslave and Piece of Mind.  Surprisingly, no Flight Of
Icarus (although I didn't mind, as it's overrated.)
 
During the song Iron Maiden, a very large head and hands of the beast from
the new album cover rose behind the stage and blew a lot of smoke.  (It was
pretty cool actually.) 
 
Testament played:
 
Electric Crown
So Many Lies
Practice What You Preach
Souls Of Black
The Ritual
Let Go Of My World
Deadline
and a couple of older songs I didn't know.
 
Clark Olson
[email protected]
 

    
    
    Thought the Maiden fans might like this...Maiden songs and their origin....
    
The Prisoner 		  - Tv series of the same name
    
Murders in the Rue Morgue - Edgar Allen Poe short story of the same name.
    
Still Life 		  - "The Inhabitant of the Lake" a Lovecraftian short 
    			    story by J. Ramsey Campbell. 
    
Where Eagles Dare 	  - A WWII movie and novel.
    
To Tame A Land 		  - The novel "Dune" by Frank Herbert
    
Quest for Fire 		  - Novel and movie of the same name
    
Back in the Village 	  - Based on the Prisoner TV series again
    
Ryme of the Ancient Mariner - Epic poem of the same name 
    
The Fugitive 		  - Tv series of the same name
    
Phantom of the Opera 	  - based on the book, but maybe the movie, too
    
The Number of the Beast   - Omen II: Damien, as well as a couple of incidents 
			    described on disc IV of the IM box set
    
Children of the Damned    - based on movie Children Of The Damned
    
The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner - based on a short story by Alan 
    			                     Sillitoe
    
Stranger in a Strange Land - based on a news report of a neanderthal found 
preserved in ice in Alaska.  (From disc V? of the box set: Wasted Years/
Stranger In a Strange Land singles)
 
Run Silent Run Deep - based on movie of same name.
    
Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter - written for the Nightmare On Elm Street
			movie (well, Bruce's band wrote it for the movie)
    

    I think those guys must be watching too many movies and too much TV!
    
    gh

    Not forgetting:
    
    The Flight of Icarus - About the bloke who tried to fly...greek myth I
    think
    
    
    Mark

    The Flight of Icarus was also a painting...
    
             Friz
    

    Icarus had wings made of wax. His dad said he'd be cool as long as he
    didn't get too close to the sun. so what's the first thing Icarus does?
    Yup, he flies to the sun and melts his wings. 
    
    MCFLY!!!!
    
    
    DD 

    If you ask me, the ultimate song about Icarus was done by Kansas, not
    IM.
    
    	db

    RE:-1
    I agree a zillion %.  I think Kansas (the early albums) was one of the
    most underated groups of the century ...
    
    Scary

    
    Whaddya want? Smith wrote Icarus and everyone knows Smith is a pop
    star girlie mon!

    I think "Flight of Icarus" is one of Maiden's better songs...
    
    gh

I love Flight Of Icarus...  I love that whole album.

jc

    
    I like everything except quest for fire.
    
    I just don't like Smith's writing.

    By the way, the Kansas tune is called "Icarus - Borne on Wings of
    Steel" and it's on the "Masque" album, which IMHO is the most
    underrated album in history.
    
    It's my favorite Kansas album by far, and probably among their lowest
    selling albums, but most of the die-hard Kansas fans I've met cite
    "Masque" as their favorite.

    
    Tracy has that. I'll have to give it a listen.

    I'd be interested in hearing what you think of it Pete.
    
    BTW Kansas's singer, Steve Walsh, is Yngwie's idea of a vocalist god.

    >BTW Kansas's singer, Steve Walsh, is Yngwie's idea of a vocalist god.
    
    He said that about Dio in '85!

    
    db, I didn't get a chance to listen to that tune yet. Tonight for
    sure.

    Listen to the whole album dude - it's superlative throughout.
    
    I also love "All the World" and "It Takes a Woman's Love" kicks major
    ass IMHO.

    I finally heard a different tune off this new album other than that
    Be Quick or Be Dead tune.  It was sort of a HM ballad, and I gotta 
    say, it truly HURLED as a tune -- tres lame!

    Actually I think the songs pretty good.   Wasting Love I think it's
    called.
    
    The albums Alright.  Better than the previous one anyway.  I don't
    think Derek Riggs did the cover art for this one.

    Well, since Pete's not here to defend Maiden anymore...
    
    I actually heard a song off the new album that I *liked* a few days
    ago.  It even had a solo I liked...  I was surprised 'cause what I'd
    heard before wasn't that great.
    
    gh

 >                 -< But I still say Bruce's voice is fried >-
    
    It is!  and has been for quite some time!  It's almost hard to listen
    to!
    
    

    Anyone still listening to and LIKING these dinosaurs?!?
    
    
    That ballad they've been playing on the radio is simply horrid.
    Gimme OLD IM anyday

    Buck: Hell no...That one song wore thin REAL quick!
    That BALLAD IS THE WORST!!!!!!!  Wasted Love is a waste of something
    but not love.
                    Friz
    

    I just pulled out Powerslave yesterday... IMO that's an awesome album!
    I don't care for the new stuff, either.  P.S. is my personal favorite,
    though...
    
    Chad
    

�m listening to and liking Piece of Mind.

Actually just got the CD about 1 month ago.  It's regularly
in my CD player here at work.

Thrashing is a necessity when deadlines abound.  :^)

-andy

(Ok, so this is circa '83)

    Oh...How wrong you are.  I'd rather listen to anything than to listen
    to that new song "Wasted Love"!!! What do you have to say for it?
    
             Friz
    

    I kinda like the new IM song...

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
    You CAN'T be serious...
    
           Friz
    

    
    
    I love it !!!!!
    
    SueMuffyJ

    I'm *never* serious!
    
    -I do kinda like that one song though, don't know about the rest of the 
    album...

    
    It's a cool tune. Not the best on the album, you should try listening
    to the title track, it's fackin' rulin'.
    
    

    I sure I would too.  I LIKE alot of Maiden's older stuff...
    
            Friz
    

    
    This is a serious note -- I really see IM dying a slow death.  Well,
    a little faster than slow.  I *really* expect them to become the next
    "Ratt" or "Judas" HM Casualty ... like the aforementioned bands, their
    markets are all but gone now.  Times and trends have changed too much,
    and IM has not changed enough.  I give them one more album before they
    call it quits.
    
    Anyone else agree??

    Maiden should've hung up their guitars long ago. It's sad to see 
    a band knocking out the same formulated style album after album. 
    Perhaps calling it a day now would be a a wise move with a 
    reunion planned for the future. What's it now 15 years? At least
    I saw them after three. Thanks for the memories, now roll over
    and die, please??
    
    barry.
    

    
    I've got two words for this band...
    
    
    
    
    Time Warp
    
    
    
    
    I've got two more words for this band ...
    
    
    
    
    Tar Pits!
    
    
    
    
    These clowns should pack up their sabre toothed stacks and call it a
    century.  They've played their formula to death.

Sabre toothed stacks!!! hahaha

    This has just been announced and is 100% true :-
    
    Bruce Dickinson has just left Iron Maiden due to his family comittments
    and his writing/solo career.
    
    Just been announced by the man himself on Radio 1.

    Pulled from the tar pits!

    Get Di'Anno back!!
    <

    
    This band is done for.
    
    

    I bet 'ol Broocie will have a sizeable pension to retire on having
    left the Iron Maiden "Corporation". This must surely be the end
    for the band, purrlease?
    
    barry.

>    Bruce Dickinson has just left Iron Maiden due to his family comittments
>    and his writing/solo career.
>    
>    Just been announced by the man himself on Radio 1.
    
    He can run, but he can't hide!  There's no escaping the TAR PITS!  He
    will be sucked down with the rest of them, to be preserved for all
    eternity!
    
    gh

    Let`s hope that they`ll split up,run out of money,then get back
    together again in approx 10 years time for a legendary re-union tour
    and a crap re-union album.
    
    Er,perhaps not. ho!ho!
    

    
    Also announced, Iron Maiden are now looking for a new vocalist.
    
    Ahem... do these guys not know when to quit or what ?
    
    -tony

    The tar has plugged their ears and eyes...

    these people should give it a rest!!
    
    
                                                 staynz

    
    
    
    Thank God! I can't believe they're actually looking for a vocalist..
    
    
    Chrisco.. You auditioning?? ;')

    
    
    Yup. Right after that Cult Aggression Audition.
    
    
    

    Quick!  Someone call /prc!!!
    

    He slays Nikko on a good day, you know.

    But, Charlie Benante... now THERE'S a drummer.
    
    

Bruce Dickinson has left the band to pursue his solo career.  Jaine Laine
has left Warrant as well.  Radio station last night speculated about Laine
taking Bruce's spot...

Friz would have a fit!!!

Tim

    
    Yeah, happened about a week ago. Bruce is pursuing a solo career, but
    he will finish the tour Maiden has planned.
    
    THey said the man most likely to take Dickinson's place... Michael
    Kiske from Helloween (who are involved in a legal dispute). 
    Also dude from Wolfsbane and Paul Di'Anno are being considered.
    
    

    Iron maiden should just give it up,although Bruce couldn't sing for
    toffee,they will not be the same band without him!
    
    Paul Di'Anno.........lardball hasbeen
    Blaze Bayle(Wolfsbane)excellant frontman but why destroy Wolfsbane to
                hang out with a bunch of old hasbeens?
    Michael Kiske....German,they would have to stop all the UK flag waving
    crap they've been known to do!!
    
                                             staynz

  >  Michael Kiske....German,they would have to stop all the UK flag waving
  >  crap they've been known to do!!
    
    Yep, I don't think the Churchill intro to "Aces High" would
    go down to well with Kiske. "We shall fight them on the 
    beaches...." 
    
    barry.
                

    I see their rather pointless and irrelevant live album has just been
    released. Which is about as exciting as a wet sunday afternoon in
    Milton Keynes shopping centre. Or something like that.
    

Crawling out of the Tar Pits for one last gasp.... Iron Maiden also has a
new live album out. I believe it only contains material that they recorded
since the 'Live After Death' album, no "classics" on it.....

alan

    
    It's called "A Real Live One", and it's okay. They have song on it that
    have been recorded since Live After Death.
    
    They're also releasing one final album with Dickinson. Also live,
    called "A Real Dead One" which will feature their favorite songs
    out of all 9 albums.
    
    

    I saw a commercial on cable yesterday for Pay per view.  
    
    "Final *live* appearance of Iron Maiden w/ Bruce Dickenson" call
    your cable operator for prices.  ...
    
    Anyone else hear of this?
    
    cj

    
    FWIW Blaze Bayley (ex. Wolfsbane) has replaced Bruce Dickinson in 
    Iron Maiden.
    
    Del.
    
    

    I was channel surfing last night and happened onto someone announcing
    the grammy award nominees and was horrified to notice that IRON MAIDEN
    was nominated for one.  How the heck did that happen?  They haven't
    put out an album in years!
    
    Greg

    Wasnt taht BEST OF the Grammys!

    I don't know what it was, I was flippin channels and happened on
    something announcing nominees for awards...sounded like an actual
    upcoming event.
    
    gh

    the new guys voice isn't much better.......you have been warned! 8)
    
    
    ...at least he's a better front man! 
    
    
    							ian

    
    	New singer for Iron Maiden is something-Blayze. Formerly of
    	Wolfsbane.
    
    	In other news, the DJ at my wedding gave me a autographed
        photo of Bruce Dickinson. I was psyched!! (it's the little
    	things in life!)
    
    

    
    It's Blayze Bailey.

    
    Is he any good?
    
    -prc

    
    he may not be the best singer around but neither was Bruce
    Dickinson.Blayze is the best front man in British metal at this point
    in time!
    
    
    						ian

   <<< Note 17.53 by CSC32::G_HOUSE "while the little guitars sing to me" >>>

    Agreed...
    
    re: Pete
    
    Do you still have that Maiden history/discography?  If so, would
    you mind reposting it?
    
    gh

    It's horrible to think how close I really was!  I could have been
    trapped instantly!!!
    
    Speakin of that, whatever happened to poor Chris?
    
    Greg

    
    Any word on the upcoming Maiden CD?  Yeah, I can't believe it, 
    but according to their drummer, it's gonna be a heavy one.
    
    I've always been a big fan of this band.  However, with the
    recent and not-so-recent departures of a couple band members, 
    the bottom seems to have dropped out bigtime (so has my interest).
    
    We'll see,
    Kev --
                                                                      

What's the current line-up then?  Is Blaze Bailey still going to do vocals?

    Blaze is the best British front man to come along in years!
    
    
    
    					ian

Out of curiosity, I picked a copy of an old Samson LP in a bargain bin a couple of 
weeks ago, which has a track called Thunderburst on it.
This turns out to be a raw version of the Ides of March and is credited as being 
co-writtten by S.Harris.

This album was released in 1980 but Killers wasn't released until 1981 and has 
Harris credited as the only writer of the Ides..
Very strange.

Does anyone out there know the story behind this one ?

Cheers,
	Ian.

    Apparently Samson and Harris are good friends and Harris approched then
    current drummer Thunderstick and gave him some notes. Thunderstick
    incorporated these and changed a bit here and there and voila... the
    same instumental (more or less). This is according to an old interview
    I read in Hit Parader in 84 or 85.
    Why Harris has sole credit on Killers is beyond me.
    
    BTW which recording do you have? I own Head On, which the above is
    from, and another one, the name escapes me, but it has an interview
    with Dickinson circa 89.
    
    Dave

    The new Maiden CD is going to be called X-Factor or Factor-X sometihng
    like that. Don't know anything about it 'cept the title.
    
    Dave

    
    
    do I hear the dinosours in the background?????
    

Galloping into the tar pits

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    re:Buck    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
             I'm dying over here......
    
     Pete....I think that title would be great for the next album!!
    Send it in to the Up the Irons fan club at
    
            1000 B.C. Dinosaur st.
               Bore, England 
                        666-666
    Or call the hotline:
    1-900-HOW-ARE-WE-GOING-TO-WRITE-MORE-SONGS-WITH-THESE-TWO-CHORDS?
    
                     FRIZKID
    

    HI THERE,
    	ANYBODY HERE HAS LISTEN TO THE NEWEST MAIDEN CD?
    SO, WHAT ARE YOUR OPINION ABOUT THIS ALBUM THAT -I HOPE IT- WILL DRIVE
    ME CRAZY JUST LIKE POWERSLAVE OR THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST.
    	SO, TO BE CLEAR, IS THIS A GREAT ONE OR A SHIT ONE?
    
    RVB

    
    	What is it called?  I didn't know they had a new one out.
    

    
    
      Yeah...it's most likely called.  The best hits of the Maiden's...  :)

    RE: -1
    
    "The Best Hits of Iron Maiden" -- what is it, an EP?!?

    Comes with Barney on the cover...
    :-)

    
    I believe the new ones called "X-Factor" and the new single has been
    out in the UK for at least a week now, MTV seem to be showing snippets 
    of it regularily. 
    
    Haven't heard it yet....Blaze Bayley (sp?) on vocals now though. 8(
    
    Giles.

    The new album is not a "best of" guys. It'a a brand new album with the
    new singer- BAILEY . 
    The sound is just like old Maiden stuff and I think the album is quite
    good.
    Hope to see what  U think of it SOON.
    

    I bought the new album The X factor yersterday (A beautiful collector
    one...) and I think after a first heard that it's a good one :
    	-> The total time is over 70'
    	-> The sound is good
    	-> It's a new Maidn...
    Overall, I found it a little slow but maybe it's due to the tire of
    last night :-))
    
    	The first track : THE SIGN OF THE CROSS is a great song...
    
    RV

    
    Blaze Bailey is 10 times the better front man Dickinson could ever
    dream of being!
    
    
    
    						ian

    Anyone's got precision on a european tour. I heard of a date in Paris
    but that's all I heard...
    

    Definitly not???
    
    Rv

    
    	I picked this one up last week also.
    
    	As was mentioned, the album does seem to be "slow" overall, but
    	the guitarists do some ripping here and there anyways.
    
    	But, this new singer [Blayze?] doesn't do anything for me.  IMO,
    	bring back Bruce so it actually sounds like Iron Maiden.  The
    	band just isn't the same without him.  All I could think while
    	hearing Blayze singing was "YAWN".
    
    	I'll have to give this another listen or 2 as well, and maybe
    	it'll sound better the next time.
    

    .590
    
    I agree. The rythm is still there although guitars seem a bit in the
    backgound.
    I think that with Bruce this album could've been quite something.
    

	Hi out there!!!!
Is there anybody out there ???
	Hey, MAIDEN XFactour is well started and they'll been touring via 
Nice (My town). I'm so happy... Ahhhhh.
	Anybody already show a performance for this tour???

		RVB

From:	US4RMC::"[email protected]" "Peter R. Cook, Quantum I.S. 
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	Might want to post this;

	Iron Maiden will be playing at Avalon on Landsdowne st.
	in Boston on Tuesday February 13th. Savatage will be
	backing them up, although it could be Fear Factory. 
	Anyway, tix went on sale today (1/15/96). As I write
	this I hold 4 of them in my greedy little hands.

	If you like Maiden, don't miss this show! They haven't
	played in this cozy an atmosphere in 15 years.

	-Peter

    
    
    hands up who cares?
    
    
    
    
    						Ian

    
    	Not me ... I already posted that note in 22.*
    
    	8^)
    

    Iron Maiden are shite!

    they used to be good but as of late,they haven't been.If I were to dig
    out an Iron Maiden lp to listen to it would be an oldie(the first one
    comes to mind)
    
    
    						Ian

    I still listen to OLD Maiden on a blue moon -- Iron Maiden and Killers
    come to mind, but Number... works in a pinch, too.

    
    	I love "Piece of Mind" and "Powerslave".
    

    	Piece if Mind was the first record after Number of the Beast?
    
    	So it's the first recording with Nicko McBrain on it, second
    	with Bruce Dickinson, me thinks...
    
    	It'll be worth seeing a stadium metal outfit crammed into
    	a club on Lansdowne st.
    
    	Don't take the T though, last I remember they stop running
    	@12:30, somewhere around there, and the club lets out @1:15 -
    	1:30 am. So don't plan on mass transit to get home, thank
    	you Boston...

    
    	I drove in and parked about 2 blocks away [a block away from
    	Fenway Park] when I went to Axis.
    
    	Took the wrong exit coming in so had a hard time finding the
    	place, but getting out was a piece of cake.
    

    
    
    
    There's always plenty of parking around the area..
    
    The last time I saw I.M. was at the Centrum during the powerslave
    tour!! 
    
    Whit-

Hi out there,
    
             Yesterday we went to the Maiden show in Nice.
As usual Maiden delivered the goods. It was a strange feeling though as it 
was more like a private concert (2000 fans0.
             The X-factor album is not great but live it kicks, just as if 
they had another singer ....
              Harris, Gers, Murray and Mc Brain still rule : packets of 
energy.As Bailey he is rather convincing considering it's his first outing 
with Maiden.
              IM played all usual classics (their best : 2 minutes, Trooper, 
Wrathchild, Iron Maiden, Heaven can wait, ...) as well as new stuff from the 
X-factor LP (The sing of the cross, The aftermath, After the war and Lord of 
the flies).
              The show was great, live they can still burn all the place down 
and put a hell of passion. Surprise to see that Bailey although no close to 
Dickinson did a fairly honest soon. 
              Come on, go and see these guys : U won't regreat it and stop 
saying they are no good or what : they have the right to make commercial 
records to make money (they deserve it considering all what they brought TO 
HM).
              Cheers.

    Thanx fer That...

    
    I wouldn't mind seeing them in Boston.
    
    Kev --
     

    
    	Send 'em a letter, Kevin ... start it:
    
    	"Please come to Boston for the spring time".
    
    	8^)
    

    	Awright, who went to the show last night?
    
    	If time allows, review please?

>             <<< Note 17.607 by ICS::CLELAND "GPS Eastern Sites" >>>
>                               -< IM in Boston? >-
>
>    	Awright, who went to the show last night?

The show was sold out.  I missed Fear Factory.

The stage was very small, like 20 feet across.  I was getting excited at
the prospect of the band filling that small stage.  Nicko was dug in behind
his drum kit so I couldn't catch a glimpse of him until after the set, when
he came out and threw a few drumsticks into the audience that jokingly ran
off the stage to avoid getting hit by sticks potentially thrown back at
him.  The sound was pretty good.  The bass drum was absolutely pounding at
first.  It was very clear and very punchy.  I thought it masked all of
Steve Harris' bass dynamics.  I put my ear plugs in at the beginning but it
cut too much out, so I removed them.  Bailey is a pretty good singer, but
he doesn't cut it compared to Dickinson, specially in the areas of high
notes and clear vocals.  After the first song Gers threw his guitar up in
the air, spinning, then caught it on the way down.  He also loved to twirl
the guitar around his neck by the strap.  He did that a lot.  They all
jumped around a lot except for Bailey who stayed in the center for the most
part.  Harris had his "evil smile" on a lot.

These guys know how to rock.  They impressed me with their precise rhythms. 
Nicko's bass drumming was the driving force, and Harris loves to lip
sync the songs (hell, he wrote 'em all) while he pounds the bass strings. 
Very rarely did I notice a loss of sync between the rhythm and the
guitars/vocals.  The first half of the show was primarily new songs.  The
new stuff, which I'm not too familiar with, still had that good ol' Iron
Maiden chunka-chunka feel to it.  In fact, some of the new songs had a
strong feel of older Maiden songs.  I guess after 16 years it's expected.

One of the things I loved last night was that they would change around the
jam sections of most of their old songs, giving them new life.  There were
frequent rhythm changes, and they'd stay on the new theme for a while
before coming back to the song's main line.  Of course, without missing a
beat.

I was hoping to hear more classics.  Absent from the set were Revelations,
22 Acacia Avenue, Aces High, The Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Killers,
Phantom of the Opera - hell, I guess I could just list their first six
albums here :-)

If anyone's going tonight in Providence, I'd be curious to know if they
change the set list around.  They started around 10:10 PM and ended at
11:55 PM.  I think the "encore" started with Number of the Beast.

Here's the set list.  Sorry for the (?)'s, I only really know their stuff
before '87 :-)

Tail Gunner
Wrathchild
Heaven Can Wait
?
Saints and Sinners(?)
Fortunes of War
?
The Evil that Men Do
The Aftermath
?
2 Minutes to Midnight
?
The Clairvoyant
Prophecy
Iron Maiden
The Number of the Beast
Hallowed Be Thy Name
Die with your Boots On

    	Thanks, much appreciated...
    
    	Where the heck are they playing in Providence, the Strand?

re:             <<< Note 17.609 by ICS::CLELAND "GPS Eastern Sites" >>>
>    
>    	Where the heck are they playing in Providence, the Strand?

I think Lupo's.  Too bad, the Strand's a better room.

adam

    
    	All/most of the Iron Maiden albums have been re-released with
    	additional tracks.
    
    	The new "Piece of Mind" includes "Cross-Eyed Mary".
    
    	But I sure hope they do what Megadeth did with "Hidden Treasures"
    	and release an album with just new/unreleased tracks so we don't
    	have to buy all the albums again for the new stuff ... although I
    	did buy the new "Piece of Mind", but I won't buy them all again
    	unless I decide to sell the old ones.
    

    
    I have an old Piece of Mind picture disk that has the "Cross-Eyed
    Mary" cover on it.  It's pretty good.  Most of those tracks that are
    now included on the re-released albums are B-sides to the singles
    they released.  There's a lot of quality tunes on the b sides, although
    I wouldn't buy all the CD's again just for those songs.
    
    
    CF

    Cross Eyed Mary is a COOL tune!!
    

    
    	VERY.  That's why I bought the new CD.
    

    re: .612
    
    I have that same picture disk!
    
    Any idea what it might be worth these days?
    
    Ken
    

    
    
    I have no idea if it's worth any money or not.  I also have a Number
    of the Beast picture disk.  I wouldn't think they are worth any real
    money, but their good records to have.  I also have a "Can I Play
    With Madness" picture disk single.  The record is in the shape of
    Eddie's head and the spoon is scooping his brains out, it's pretty
    cool.  I can't remember what's on the "B" side of that, I'll have to
    check it out when I get home.
    
    
    
    CF

    Well, I'd imagine these picture disks are pretty hard to come by these
    days.  I'd bet they're worth at least $30 or $40 to some collector.
    
    Ken
    

    
    	A bit of a clarification ... the re-releases include a 2nd CD
    	with the unreleased tracks.  The tracks aren't just tagged
    	onto the end of the original album.
    
    	And the "Piece of Mind" re-release, the only 1 I have so far,
    	is a "picture disc" featuring The Trooper.  The 2nd CD is a
    	new [to me] design and includes "I've Got the Fire" [Montrose]
    	and "Cross-Eyed Mary" [Jethro Tull].
    
    	The insert says that the 1st 10 CD's have been re-released
    	with an extra CD included ... up to and including "Fear of the
    	Dark".
    

    What do you mean "picture disc"?   The CD has artwork on the topside?
    
    

    
    	No, the artwork is on the bottom.
    
    	8^)
    

    >       No, the artwork is on the bottom.
    
    You're joking right?
    
    

    
    	It's good to see that you're paying attention, Ken.  8^)
    
    	Yes, I was joking.  The artwork is on the top, in place of the
    	song list and credits.
    

    
    I also have that old "Trooper" picture disk on record.
    
    
    How 'bout that song "I've Got the Fire"!!  That was always one of 
    my favorites.  Guess I have to go home and listen to that, it's
    gonna be going thru my head the rest of the day.
    
    
    CF

    
    	"I've Got the Fire" was the B-side of "The Flight of Icarus".
    
    	"Cross-Eyed Mary" was the B-side of "The Trooper".
    

    
    picture discs....lets see,I have!
    
    Yankee Rose by DLR(I nearly got into a fight about this one)
    Mean Streak by Y&T
    Creeping death by Metallica
    2 minutes to midnight by Iron Maiden
    Got the time? by Anthrax
    interview with ACDC(gift from a reletive)
    
    I'm sure I have more but I can't remember them!
    
    							ian