Conference 7.286::sports_91

I guess this is as good a place as any.

As Hawk has metioned, he and I have played a game called "what was
there original name" in reference to sports stars who have chose to
follow Islam and changed their names.

For example:

	Muhammed Ali		Cassius Clay
	Kareem Abdul Jabaar	Lew Alcindor


It might be fun to mention a few more (cause I'm out of names).
If you have one or two, enter their new name, and we'll try to guess 
their old one....

I'll start (Hawk you can't reply to this one cause you know it....)

	Ahmad Rashad

       Ahmad Rashad		Bobby Moore, running back at Oregon.
    
    Should call himself "Ahmad Cosby's Wife's Husband" now, though.
    
    Here's another ...
    
       Jamaal Wilkes
       
    Bob Hunt

    �            -< Raghib Ismail?  Father's name will apply... >-
    
    Was it "Call Me Ismail" ???
    
    Here's one in reverse.  The Sixers used to have a guy play for them by
    the name of Wally Jones.   Then he changed it to something like "Wali
    Muhammed" or "Wali Elijah" or something.   What was it ???   I honestly
    don't recall.
    
    And, yes, Jamaal Wilkes was Keith Wilkes at UCLA.
    
    Bob Hunt

    
    Didn't World B. Free change his name too?
    

    A would be Arabic Chicagoian...
    
    Al'emme Plaetoo  -- Ernie Banks
    
    

    
    re -1
    
    That's easy Hawk.  You see, Wilkes played in LA.  To play there you
    have to have some really slick nickname.  Wiles was known as "silk." 
    If he changed it to some Moslem last name, it wouldn't rhyme, and he
    just wouldn't fit into that LA image.

How about Zaid Abdul Aziz, who played for the Celts on a 10 day contract
back at the end of Havlicek's career.   Rumor has it that John said to
Zaid "Welcome aboard!" and Zaid responded "Boards?  Yeah, I'll get some
boards!"

    
    Pele?
    Simon became Peter.
    The Iron Sheik?
    

Pele has a wicked long Spanish (or should I say Brazilian) name,
and while my memory is really fuzzy, it starts something like

	Eduard de Aranjo somethingsomethingsomethingsomething...

Please forgive my spelling, but that's the best I can remember it.


'Saw

    re.14:
    
    > Pele has a wicked long Spanish (or should I say Brazilian) name,
    > and while my memory is really fuzzy, it starts something like
    
    It's something like Edson Amantes De Nascimento (I'm also not sure of
    the exact spelling).
    
    
    py

    
    > It's something like Edson Amantes De Nascimento (I'm also not sure of
    > the exact spelling).
    
    Edson Arantes Do Nascimento... pretty impressive, Paul.
    
    glenn
    

�    Edson Arantes Do Nascimento... pretty impressive, Paul.

Yes.
It means:

Awake! The cattle are dying.

Mike JN    






I made that up
heh heh heh heh

    Frank Way  A.K.A  Lanny O'Lynn

Paul...

That was baaaaaaaad

'Saw

    OK, I've got a good one.  I went to Mrytle Beach a few weekends ago. 
    Between Pageland and Darlington, South Carolina there is a road named
    "Bo Bo Newsome Highway."
    
    Who was Bo Bo Newsome?
    
    	--dan'l
    
    PS: I know the answer because I gave it as an extra credit assingment
    to one of my students who lives in Florence, SC.  He came to class last
    night with the answer.

              
    > Who was Bo Bo Newsome?
    
    Pitcher/class clown for about a dozen major league teams in the 1930's 
    and 40's, most notably the St. Louis Browns, I think...
    
    glenn
    

    I am in a training class and we have just tonight to answer the 
    following question (if we get it we get a prize!!!)
    
    What 4 sports entities (teams, players, etc.) appeared on the following
    publications within the same month?  Sports Illustrated, Newsweek,
    Time, and Life.  One answer is the Olympic Hockey Team in Sept? 1980.
    Does anyone know?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Susan

    > What 4 sports entities (teams, players, etc.) appeared on the following
    > publications within the same month?  Sports Illustrated, Newsweek,
    > Time, and Life.  One answer is the Olympic Hockey Team in Sept? 1980.
    > Does anyone know?
    
    I'll take a guess that Muhammed Ali was one of them.  Maybe Mark Spitz,
    and Secretariat, too?
    
    glenn
    

    
    
    ...Carl Lewis...?
    
    B.A.

    Do you think Roger Marris could have been an answer?  What about
    Jack Nicklaus?  Sam Snead?    I will let yo know the answer tomorrow
    night on ce I have it.  
    
    More replies are welcome. (Not that I don't have faith in what
    has ben recorded!!!)
    
    Susan

Susan,

I'd bet on the U.S. Hockey team that you mentioned.  I think that would've
bin in March 1980, but I'm not sure.

Since it was 4 magazines in a month, I can only imagine that it was one single
wowser of an event that made all those covers at once.  

In that sense, the U.S. Team pulled off the biggest upset in sport IMO.  

Damn, I can still see that Eruzione just throwing himself at every Russian and
going after every puck as if his life depended on it.  It sure was a funny
feeling after a while when we all started to realize that there was no way
they were gonna lose, just too much desire for the Russians to handle.

rick

    Bruce Jenner...Ogla Korbet... Nadina COmernech (SP)....
    
    REK

    I believe its Nadia (no n) but I could be wrong...

	How about Ben Johnson?

Mac

Ask Dan...

He'll tell you it was the Jets All-World Wide Receiver Corps.....

How `bout Joe Montana
Bo Jackson
Muhammed Ali
Flo JO

    Jack Nicklaus or Arnold Palmer?
    
    I'd guess, Palmer, Ali, Spitz and someone like Dimaggio or Williams...
    Aaron?

    
    It was Jimmy Hoffa.
    
       ...in a snowmobile suit!
    
    Dickstah
    

�    It was Jimmy Hoffa.
�       ...in a snowmobile suit!

Now I get it!

Mike JN

    re: .34
    
    Dave,
    I'm glad to see that your mind is STILL in the gutter!!!
    
    Many 8-),
    PJ

    This is what the answer was:Mark Spitz, Olga Corbett, The US Oplympic
    Hockey Team, and Secretariat.  This came from a trivia question from
    Bob Ryan of the Globe.  I don't know what his source was.  I called
    Time and they wouldn't help.  Sports Illustrated said they would  try
    to help, but the guy who knew was out sick. One of the people I 
    spoke with said they had seen the answer come across their desk, but
    couldn't find the paper!!!!
    
    Thanks for all your input.
    
    Susan 

    Susan did anyone in the class get them right?
    
    Glenn, congrats in .23.  You got two of the remaining 3.
    
    lEe

    There were two of us.  I missed Olga.  Thanks for all your help!!
    
    Susan

�    There were two of us.  I missed Olga.  Thanks for all your help!!


Susan

I kinda miss Olga myself.

Tell her I said Hey.

Mike JN

    

    
    > There were two of us.  I missed Olga.  Thanks for all your help!!
    
    Where are my royalties!?
    
    glenn
    

>    Where are my royalties!?

Well, King of the Hill Carlos is in here somewhere.....
    

    Hey, I was the only one who guessed Ogla....
    
    KING REK

    
    I have a trivia question which I don't know the answer to.
    I would appreciate anyone knowledgeable in the NHL to answer
    this question.
    
    The first NHL player to score 10 points in an NHL game was?
    
    a.  Mario Lemieux
    b.  Wayne Gretzky
    c.  Darryl Sittler
    
    The most obvious answer would be Gretzky but I am leaning toward
    Sittler.  Can someone help me here.  A sub from SUBWAY rides on
    the correct answer.

    I seem to recall that Darryl have 6 goals and 4 assists in a game..
    
    Joann?
    Cathy?
    Weinie? ANy hockey nut?
    
    REK
    

Hey Mr. Brown

>>    c.  Darryl Sittler
    
That's any easy one for me because I was sitting right there in Maple Leaf
Gardens and watched him do it!!

My memory says 1976, but I'm not sure.  It was 6 goals and 4 assists, that I
do recall.  The score was 10-4, and I believe they were playing the Flyers.

HTH,
  
rick

    
    
    	!!!!!!THANK YOU !!!!!
    
    The trivia game was on a scratch and win game card.  Scratch off
    Sittler and win the prize.
    
    \Phil

Here is a relatively incredible coinkydinky (at least I think so):

Players who have won back-to-back MVP awards at their positions.

There have been only nine of them, and the real coincidence is that each
of the nine played a different position; that is, by coincidence, the
nine winners each represent a separate position.... 1st base, 2nd base,
etc..... so that when all nine are listed, you have a complete team to
field.

Wanta try to finger out who they are? No fair looking it up! Take some
guesses. I'll hold off a day or so putting in the answers.

Mike JN

 Pitcher	Hal Newhouser		Detroit Tigers
 Catcher	Roy Campanella		Brooklyn Dodgers
 First Base
 Second Base	Joe Morgan		Cincinnati Reds
 Third Base	Mike Schmidt		Philadelphia Phillies
 Shortstop	Ernie Banks		Chicago Cubs
 Left Field
 Center Field	Dale Murphy		Atlanta Braves
 Right Field	Roger Maris		New York Yankees
 
 Bob Hunt

Damn, Bob... you're pretty good!
All correct so far except the catcher. We only need three more.

 Pitcher	Hal Newhouser		Detroit Tigers
 Catcher
 First Base
 Second Base	Joe Morgan		Cincinnati Reds
 Third Base	Mike Schmidt		Philadelphia Phillies
 Shortstop	Ernie Banks		Chicago Cubs
 Left Field
 Center Field	Dale Murphy		Atlanta Braves
 Right Field	Roger Maris		New York Yankees
 

    
    Catcher was Yogi Berra; leftfield Stan Musial, first Jimmy Foxx?
    
    glenn
    

Awesome. Yep Jimmy Foxx (I'd never have guessed him) at first. And
Yogi's the catcher. Stan wasn't the outfielder though. I'm surprised.
This Outfielder would have probably been my first guess.

 Pitcher	Hal Newhouser		Detroit Tigers
 Catcher        Yogi Berra              New York Yankees
 First Base     Jimmy Foxx              (I blanked)!!!
 Second Base	Joe Morgan		Cincinnati Reds
 Third Base	Mike Schmidt		Philadelphia Phillies
 Shortstop	Ernie Banks		Chicago Cubs
 Left Field
 Center Field	Dale Murphy		Atlanta Braves
 Right Field	Roger Maris		New York Yankees
 

Left Field:  Ted Williams    ?????

 I took a guess on Campanella.  I knew that both he and Berra have multiple
 MVPs so I guessed that Campy got his in at least two consecutive years.
 
 Jimmy Foxx won his MVPs with the Philadelphia Athletics, no ???
 
 I don't think baseball gave out the MVP during the prime of Babe Ruth's
 career but maybe he picked up a couple towards the end of his run.   But
 he was mostly a rightfielder, wasn't he ???   Was Ruth the leftfielder ???
 
 Bob Hunt

    
      Although he didn't play left field, is Mickey Mantle the other
    outfielder ?
    
      Jim

Actually the article I saw didn't plug in Right, Center, and Left Field,
but just `Outfield' (probably because most people end up playing more
than just one position in the Outfield). The other `Outfielder' named
was Mickey Mantle.

Mike JN

    1B - Jimmy Foxx (38,39 ?)
    2B - Joe Morgan (75,76)
    SS - Ernie Banks (58,59 ?)
    3B - Al Rosen (?)
    OF - Ted Williams
    OF - Dave Parker (77-78)
    OF - Roger Maris (60-61)
    C  - Yogi Berra or Roy Campenella (I think  it was Campy)
    P  - Hal Newhouser (44-45)

    Dag, I don't peek, and you guys figure it out !
    
    BOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!

Somebody already mentioned (I think) that Bo was last tackled in
football by Kevin Walker - Cincinnati's inside linebacker. (Raiders won
20-10)

Does anybody remember what Bo's last at bat was?

Info after the Form feed.... don't look if you wanna make some guesses.



His last At Bat was at Cleveland on Oct 3rd, 1990
He batted against Cleveland Reliever Doug Jones.
Jackson was pinch hitting for George Brett.
He flied out to Center.
That was the final out of the Royals season, and possibly Bo's final out
as a player.

Mike JN

    Yeah, but who did Bo get his *first* hit off of?  What team?
    
    Dan

    Perry, Seattle...
    
    REK

    Here's a good one.  Bob Hunt and Tom Haas are not eligible unless no
    one figures it out by 4:00 PM EST Friday.
    
    The NCAA West Regional is in the Seattle Superdome.  UNLV has the
    advantage of playing this court this season, yet they played
    no teams from the state of Washington, nor did they participate in any
    tournament there.  How so?
    
    Be specific.  If you get the answer, I'll send you a souvenir from this
    years tournament...the extra ticket to tonight's SE Regional that I
    couldn't unload.
    
    	--dan'l

    Didn't they play Alaska Anchorage there to start the season?

    They beat the Sonics 112-98?

 Did they play the Russian there when they were touring the scene playing
 colleges?

 mike

I don't know the answer re: UNLV

but while people are guessing that one... I have a couple trivia items:

The five best defensive clubs in the Sweet Sixteen this year:

Rank	Team	pts. allowed 	Season Rank
1. 	Utah	   62.7		   Fifth
2.	Temple	   63.7		  Seventh
3.	UConn	   65.4		   Tenth
4.	Okla. St   66.5		  Twelveth
5.	E. Mich.   67.1		 Thirteenth

Mike JN

In March of 1940, the Yankees were up for sale.

Asking price:



4 million dollars

That'd just about buy one superstar baseball player in today's market.

Mike JN

For last year's Major League Baseball Season...

Who had the distinction of being the year's WORST in fielding
percentage?



Bo Jackson

His fielding percentage was .952

He could be counted on to have an error at least once for every
twenty-one times he had a chance to touch the ball.

Mike JN

Who was selected as this year's 

Gatorade High School Player Of The Year?



6' 10" Chris Webber

from Detroit Country Day School in Birmingham, Michigan

He's being touted as the best Basketball player to come out of Michigan
since a young dude by the name of Earvin Johnson.

Mike JN

>    Didn't they play Alaska Anchorage there to start the season?
    
    This is the closest answer so far...but it is only 1/3 correct.
    
    	--dan'l

    The court was temporarily shipped to Anchorage for the Great-Alaska
    Shootout?

    They played Alaska Anchorage because there's some limit to the number
    of games outside the greater 48 or something like that.  That's how
    Nova got bit with St. Francis I think.  Tark didn't want to go outside
    the greater 48 so they played in Seattle.

    .83 is oh so close, but not correct.  
    
    	--dan'l

    Didn't they play the game in Canada?... Vancover? Winnapeg?....
    
    REK

    I  eliebe there was a hoop tourney in Vancouver, Canada.  They used
    the portable court that hte Kingdome uses.  I believe the other
    schools included at least one Canadien University (U of BC), possible
    Alaska-Anchorage, and maybe another Canadien team.
    
    UNLV won.
    
    JD

    I would guess that the floor was shipped to wherever the game was
    played in Canada, which is where UNLV played.
    
    Joe

    You are right, the floor was moved.
    
    Somebody's gonna get this real soon.  Where was it and who did UNLV
    play?
    
    	--dan'l

    
    And just be sure your answer is in the form of a question.
    
    -Alex
    

   � Here's a good one.  Bob Hunt and Tom Haas are not eligible unless no
   � one figures it out by 4:00 PM EST Friday.
    
 Ooo, ooo, ooo, I know, I know, pick me, pick me.
 
 Bob Hunt

    Ah...yes...Bobby...you've been waiting patiently, but now you have to
    tell the whole Poker story...and for extra credit, who beat Georgia
    Tech on that same night.
    
    	--dan'l

 Okay, the whole story ...
 
 First weekend in December, my Significant Other boogied on down to visit
 her sister in Miami so the Breadmaker here decided he was going to invite
 "Da Boys" over for some satellite TV sports hopping, some poker, lots of
 brewskies, and some good ol' fashioned American male belchin', scratchin',
 and carryin' on.
 
 From 8:00pm until it was over, we watched the Hornets lose to the Knicks
 in the Garden as Ewing scored 51.  That ugly SOB owns the Hornets.  Geez,
 we need an axe to chop him down.  After the Hornets game was over, we
 found the Florida vs Florida State football game and then soon afterwards
 switched over to the Lakers against the Suns in Phoenix.
 
 Around about midnight when just about all the East coast games were done,
 we scanned the birds one mo' time and found UNLV playing in Vancouver, BC. 
 And, Dan'l is right, they had imported the floor from the Kingdome up to
 Vancouver.
 
 Vegas was playing ...	the University of Alabama-Birmingham Blazers.
 
 I have no idea who Georgia Tech lost to that night.
 
 Bob Hunt

    Sorry, I tried everything in that note title without totally giving it
    away...
    
    U mAy Be right
    yoU mAy Be right
    etc.
    
    I had to make it a little tougher than that.  Please don't put me on
    trial. 8-(
    
    FWIW, GT lost to Richmond.  I remember it distinctly because Bob was
    really surpised and I wasn't.  "Bob," I said ('cause that's his name),
    "all they have is Kenny Anderson."  How true that statement turned out
    to be.
    
    It's been a good day.  See ya'll on Monday!
    
    	--dan'l

    Since this is Oscar night, the airwaves are full of things about
    'Dances With Wolves' and Kevin Costnar.  In '82 he had a itty-bitty
    part in 'Francis' with Jessica Lange, and he played the dead body in
    'The Big Chill' but can anyone name his part in one of the 80's
    classics 'Night Shift'?
    
    No, it's not where he got his start playing dead bodies.
    
    	--dan'l

    Was he the relative of the boss who got the Fonz's day job ?

    Hey, who won da prize?

    REK, JD, and Joe all got portions of the answer but no one named UAB as
    the opposing team before Bob Hunt piped in.  If it means that much to
    ya, I'm willing to send you my ticket stubs.  That way you get a
    portion of the ticket since you only got a portion of the answer...but
    I only have two ticket stubs.
    
    Otherwise, I declare the contest void.  Whatever.  I'm easy.
    
    RE: Kevin Costnar
    
    He played a bumb on the subway playing a saxaphone and hitting Henry
    Winkler up for some change.
    
    RE: Tex Cobb
    
    Did we ever get an answer to that MASH linked trivia question last
    week?
    
    	--dan'l

    >Did we ever get an answer to that MASH linked trivia question last
    >week?
    
    No, the answer is _The Gig_.  You want to have a good evening?  Go rent
    it!  It's got the actor who played Trapper John in M*A*S*H and a few
    other notables (Cleavon Little, Tex) and is about ordinary people who
    yearn to be jazz musicians.  Low budget, and small run means it never
    hit the main theatre, but if I recall it one an award at TOronto or
    Cannes about 6 years ago, which is what turned me on to it.
    
    It's played on A & E a few times recently.
    
    Dan

>    No, the answer is _The Gig_.  You want to have a good evening?  Go rent
>    it!  It's got the actor who played Trapper John in M*A*S*H and a few
>    other notables (Cleavon Little, Tex) and is about ordinary people who
>    yearn to be jazz musicians.  Low budget, and small run means it never
>    hit the main theatre, but if I recall it one an award at TOronto or
>    Cannes about 6 years ago, which is what turned me on to it.


Yeah, Wayne Rogers plays clarinet or sax I think.  They were playing
small resort clubs in Upstate NY or something like that, right?

Been a while since I've seen that one.....

'Saw

    What instrament does Tex play?  I'm having a hard time picturing
    anything but symbols.
    
    	--dan'l
    

    I heard a pretty good one the other day, and thought I'd put in here
    before the tourney is over.  I'll put the answer in here Friday
    afternoon.
    
    Name the first and last teams alphabetically that have ever played in
    the NCAA tournament.  For example, Arkansas and Washington would be a
    good guess.
    
    Joe

      Abilene Christian and Yahoo City Community College :^>
    
      Bull~
    

    
    Aardvark Academy and Zoo-Mass?
    

    No one has got the person that the first spike is attributed to....
    
    JD

    Didn't Noah invent the first spike for use in building the Ark?
    
    lEe

    
    lEe,
    
    	You were there, you tell us! ;^)
    
    Claybroon

    First spike= White Shoes? (or first dance)
    
    

    It's kinda a trick question.
    
    Hint:  It didn't happen in a real game, but a filmed one...
    
    JD

    
    M*A*S*H ?  Damn good football game in that one, but I thought spiking
    was invented before that.
    
    Uhmmmm....2nd choice:  Ronald Raygun as George Gipp?
    
    3rd choice:  Charlton Heston as Moses when he spikes the two stone
    tablets in the endzone at the "Golden Calf Bowl."
    
    Which reminds me of Moses coming down from the mountain and he's
    yelling ahead to his people, "I have spoken to the Lord. And he has
    given me these fifteen OOPS! *CRASH*...uh, these TEN commandments!"
    
    Dickstah
    
    

Oh wow, oh wow....

Burt Reynolds in the longest yard.....??????


'Saw

Spearchucker in *M*A*S*H*  ??

Name the Major Pro Teams that share a common name:

( example::: Houston Oilers.... Edmonton Oilers )

Mike JN

Somebody told me this one, but I don't know if it's true. Can anybody
let me know?

Question: 
	What pitcher has struck out more Yankees than any other pitcher
in history.




Answer: Babe Ruth, with the Red Sox.


Is that true?

MIke JN

It said on the radio today, that at the top of his career, Ty Cobb was
making $60 per month.

Mike JN

PS - I think today's his birthday.

>Answer: Babe Ruth, with the Red Sox.

>Is that true?
    
    I highly doubt it.  Does the question refer to one game, which leaves
    it a possiblity?  If it's one game, I'd still take Ryan well before
    Ruth.  If it's career, Jim Palmer would be near the top of my list.
    
    Dan

    I'll go along with Frank and say Burt, in the Longest Yard.
    
    Winnipeg Jets/NY Jets
    SF Giants/NY Giants

    Pitcher to strike out most Yankees?  How about Al Nipper ;^)

	Sacramento Kings  Los Angeles Kings
	St. Louis Cardinals  Phoenix Cardinals
	New York Islanders  Islanders ('rasslin tag team)
	New York Rangers  Texas Rangers
	Buffalo Bills  Boston Red Sox (lottsa dollar bills)
	Seattle Sea"hawks"  Atlanta "Hawks"  Chicago Black "Hawks"
	New York Football Giants  San Francisco Giants
	Los Angeles Clippers  Washington Senators
	New York Jets  Winnipeg Jets
	Montreal Canadiens  Vancouver Canucks

    	Seattle Mariners  Maine Mariners
    	Chicago Bears  Chicago Cubs  Boston Bruins

    
    > I highly doubt it.  Does the question refer to one game, which leaves
    > it a possiblity?  If it's one game, I'd still take Ryan well before
    > Ruth.  If it's career, Jim Palmer would be near the top of my list.
    
    I think Walter Johnson still holds the AL record for strikeouts ahead
    of the fast-closing Nolan Ryan.  I'd be surprised if Palmer dominated
    the Yanks enough to be ahead of either Johnson or Ryan.
    
    glenn
    

    According to my Red Sox trivia book (5 years old), of Sox pitchers,
    Babe Ruth has the best winning percentage against the Yanks - based
    on at least 20 decisions.  He was 17-5.

    DING DING DING!!!
    
    Dickstah has the correct answer:
    
    
    
    Ronald Reagan, as George Gip, is acknowleged to have made the first
    recorded spike.  It's not a major league spike, but a spike
    nonetheless.
    
    
    JD

    What NY Yankee broke up Bobby Ojeda's no-hitter, in the 9th inning,
    in Sept. '81??
    
    What were Ted Williams' 3 nicknames?

>    What were Ted Williams' 3 nicknames?

The Tedster, Tedoroni, Tedmeister

    
    Teddy Ballgame, The splendid Splinter, The Kid
    
    Pro teams:  Boston Bruins, UCLA Bruins ;^)
    
    Dickstah
    

    The splendid splinter, Teddy Ballgame and Mr. Personality

    Ted, Ed, Eddie.
    
    Mark.

> It said on the radio today, that at the top of his career, Ty Cobb was
> making $60 per month.
    
    This sounds like one of your basic growing legends, where as the modern
    day salaries go up, the oldtimers' go down.  Cobb was probably making
    somewhere between $15,000-$20,000 a year by the time he hung them up.
    He was probably making $60/month playing for the Buford Bigots of the 
    Georgia Agricultural League in 1905, and being fined twice that while 
    gambling ten times that much away in the bigs.
    
    glenn
      

    
    >                           -< Mr. Dickstah got it. >-
     
    Ya doesn't hasta call me Mistah (even though I'm prob'ly as old as
    yer pappy).
                                

THE SPLENDID SPLINTER!?!!?

I didn't know that.

Chainsaw told me that was Hawk's wife's secret name for Hawk's woody.


troof is stranger than friction
Mike JN

    No No No
    She meant SPLINT. It needs a Splendid Splint
    
    Mucho smileys
    

    
    I'M ROOOOOOOOLIN' !!!! Splendid Splinter! HA HA HAHA!!
    
    
    
    
    Steve

    
    HAHAHAHAHA!  The Splendid Splint!  Laff of the day material, there.
    

    Most strikeouts of Yankees:  Frank Lary?
    
    lEe

    Name the 5 players to have worn #13 this year in the NHL.
    
    

One of them is Sanderson for Hartford....

    Name the only sport where the winners go backwards.
    
    And, no, it's not the "Fosbury Flop" high jump style.
    
    Bob Hunt

 Nope, it ain't rowing.   The argument against rowing is that the boat is
 going forwards even though the rowers are facing backwards.   The correct
 answer is a sport where the winners are going backwards on purpose.
 
 This was a Jeopardy question a few days ago.
 
 Bob Hunt

Swimming the backstroke ?


metz

    "What is Tug Of War ?" was indeed the correct "question" to the
    Jeopardy "answer".
    
    Bob Hunt

Actually a better "answer" would have been 

	The offspring of Tug McGraw and Man o' War.

    .148 is one of two that were worn in Hartford this year!!!!!
                                        
    1. Geoff Sanderson
    2. ?
    3. ?
    4. ?
    5. ?
    
    Hint:  Four out of the five were/are worn in the Adams Division, the
    fifth in the Smythe.

                                        
    1. Geoff Sanderson
    2. Carey Wilson
    3.                (hint) bruins
    4.                (hint) canadiens
    5. ?
    

    �1. Geoff Sanderson
    �2. Carey Wilson
    �3.               (hint) bruins         YUP!
    �4.               (hint) canadiens      NO!  Close guess though!
    �5. ?                                   Ex-Bruin...what a giveway!
    
    Wilson now wears #33 in Calgary.

    
    Wes Walz for the B's
    Ken Linesman for the Oiler's
    And someone on Quebec
    
    
    Steve

    I beg to differ about Tug o' War.  Are not men moving backward making
    the rope go forward, like men in a boat are making it go forward?  The
    backstroke sounded correct, but it is not an individual sport.
    
    Bob, was that all there was to the question?  What category was it
    under?  Something like "Rope Sports" would make sense, but nothing
    less.
    
    	--dan'l

>    Wes Walz for the B's
>    Ken Linesman for the Oiler's
>    And someone on Quebec
    
Dang!@@!@!@@!

I couldn't remember Linesman's name (that Rat, right?) and I knew he
wasn't on Boston anymore, but he DID wear it when he was there.

Walz didn't come to mind...

Don't know who on the Nords....Sakic is #19, right?


Good question Jo.....

'Saw

    Sakic is #19....
    
    I'll give you guys another hint:
    
    He's Swedish and his initials are M.S. (The Nords scoring leader AFTER
    Sakic), and oh yeah, he's a rookie!

    
    Answer to "Backwards" question:
    
    The NY Yankees.
    
    Oh, that was *winners* going backward, not *whiners* going backward.
    Sorry, I was reading da Broons file again and got confused. ;^)
    
    Dickstah
    

    Mats Sundin..

    Heard this on the radio this AM:
    
    Who is credited with scoring the first 3 pointer in NBA history?
    
    lEe

    Just a wild guess Lee, Chris Ford?
    
    dinz
    

    DInz,
    
    Ya beat me to the answer!!!
    
    

    Here's a good one:
    
    Sunday Night my wife and I watched the Clint Eastwood film, Pale Rider.
    Well the "bad guys" in the movie were a father and son gold mining company
    that was trying to take over some settler's land.  My wife says, "Hey
    guess who that is.  I never saw him in anything else besides ...."
    
    What actor portrayed the father in that mining company and what TV show
    is he on now ?

>    that was trying to take over some settler's land.  My wife says, "Hey
>    guess who that is.  I never saw him in anything else besides ...."
>    
>    What actor portrayed the father in that mining company and what TV show
>    is he on now ?


Richard Dysart, LA Law.

He also played the Barbed Wire Salesman in Back to the Future III....

And, if you listen carefully, his voice is on many commercials...

What do I win?

8^)

'Saw

    >What do I win?
    My unending respect or what's behind door number 3.

>    My unending respect or what's behind door number 3.


I'll go with your unending respect.  Knowing you, I have a feeling
what's behind Door Number 3 isn't something I'd want anyway 8^)

'SAw

    He was also was Melvyn Douglas' assistant in Being There... that
    was a great movie.... (Peter Sellers, Shirley Maclane...)

    Dysart also played Harry Truman in _War and Remembrance_.
    
    Mark.

    I didn't see Pale Rider, but just for fun I was gonna guess John Schuck
    (sp?).  He's awesome in The New Munsters.
    
    Dan

 Richard Dysart also played Rocky's grandpa in Peter Bogdanovich's "Mask"
 that starred Cher.
 
 Rocky Dennis was the kid who suffered and died from "Elephant Man's
 Disease".
 
 Bob Hunt

> Richard Dysart also played Rocky's grandpa in Peter Bogdanovich's "Mask"
> that starred Cher.

I really enjoyed that movie.  Of course, Sam Elliot is another one of
my favorites too....


Did anyone see the Ricky Bell Story last night?  I don't know how I 
missed hearing of his disease and death when it happened, but I honestly
didn't know what was gonna happen until the movie got there...  Wow....


'Saw

    �Did anyone see the Ricky Bell Story last night?
    
    Yes.  Unbelievable movie.  From 10:00 on me and my kleenex didn't
    part.  

    Yo Bob Hunt,
    
    Is the Ricky Bell Story another "Cindy Movie", as you so appropriately
    referred to Brian's Song?
    
    John

Longest NCAA winning streaks:



Games   Team          Years        Upset by:   Score
-----   ----          -----        ---------   -----
 88     UCLA          71-74        Notre Dame  71-71
 60     San Francisco 55-57        Illinois    62-33
 47     UCLA          66-68        Houston     71-69
 45     UNLV          90-91        Duke        79-77
 44     Texas         13-17        Rice        24-18


Mike JN

ND over UCLA 71-70

not 71-71 as erroneously reported earlier


Mike JN

    The Ricky Bell Story, good movie, its shame his life was cut so short.
    I remember when he was draft #1 by his old USC coach(what is his name)
    and the fact that he was bigger than Tony Dorsett therefore better 
    suited for the pro game. I always wondered what would have happened on
    the football field if Tampa took Tony and Dallas took Ricky Bell. Sure
    enough a line in the movie has Bell saying he would have led the league
    in rushing if he had gone to Dallas.

    Anthony Davis looked awful.

Chuck

 �   Yo Bob Hunt,
 �   
 �   Is the Ricky Bell Story another "Cindy Movie", as you so appropriately
 �   referred to Brian's Song?
 
 Bingo.   Had all the ingredients except Lindsay Wagner.  Susan Ruttan from
 LA Law had the token Wagner part, that of the mom of the handicapped kid.  
 The movie had the handicapped kid, the stricken football player, the
 skeptical grandmom, the whole works ... even the kid winning his race to
 close out the final slow-motion scene.
 
 Cindy went through a whole box of Puffs.   She was completely in tears at
 the final scene.
 
 I was laughing (inside) most of the time.  This was "Brian's Song 1991"
 for sure.
 
 Bob Hunt

    �Had all the ingredients except Lindsay Wagner.
    
    Bob - you forgot to mention it was a TRUE STORY.
    
    I didn't watch, but will have to catch the rerun - it's sure to be a
    Marcia  movie!  ;*)
    
    =Bob=

    
        Who was the Mets regular 2nd baseman before Wally Backman?
    
        Bull~
    

    Bob,
    
    I meant to warn you that a "Cindy movie" was coming but we were having
    network trouble here along with the trouble we were having getting into
    the conference.
    
    It must be terribly hard to keep a straight face while the spigots are
    open and the tears are flowing.  I would have a lot of trouble trying
    to keep from bursting out laughing.
    
    John

 Thanks for thinking of me, Ninja, but no need to worry.  CBS hyped
 "Triumph Of The Heart - The Ricky Bell Story" to death during the Final
 Four.   Cindy had penciled it in days before it ran on Tuesday night.
 
 She gets really torqued at me when I laugh outwardly at her movies.  
 That's part of the mystique of keeping a marriage going ... knowing when
 and how to laugh while keeping a completely serious dead pan face.   Takes
 years of OJT.   I was silent "rolling" big time during that movie.
 
 Re: Mets' pre-Backman second sacker ...  Doug Flynn ???
 
 Bob Hunt

>    re: keeping a marriage going...takes years of OJT.
>    
>    Agreed.  However, you wanna make sure it's YOU training the spouse, not
>    vice versa...
    

Hawk, I'm no expert *obviously*, but from what I've seen, they train
you subliminally.  All through your married life, you think you've got
the upper hand, but they're working that little espionage deal behind
the scenes, all the covert operations etc etc etc...

I mean, when you come right down to it, Cindy WAS watching.  Bob may
have been laughing behind a stone-face, but what was on the TV.....

[many wry 8^)]

'Saw

    Bob, you have no heart .... you and the Ninja are quite a pair ...

    The Ninja has a heart alright, but I can certainly see the humor in
    this situation.  After all, Bob started it by calling Brian's Song a
    "Cindy movie" and not a sports movie.
    
    Doc, your ticket for Patriots Day is in the mail.
    
    John

    Some easy NCAA questions:
    
    1) In the last 20 years,two states have produced four different final-4
    teams. Name the states and the teams.
    
    2) Name the three conferences which had two of their members play each
    other in the finals and name the matchups.
    
    3) When was the last time a conference sent two teams to the final 4 and
    saw neither of them make the finals?
    
    4) What was the matchup the last time the Eastern Regional final did
    not contain an ACC team?

    I can't come up with one... Flynn?  Tom Foley?  Brian Giles?

�    1) In the last 20 years,two states have produced four different final-4
�    teams. Name the states and the teams.
 
    North Carolina - North Carolina, Duke, NC State, UNC Charlotte
    
    Indiana - Indiana, Purdue, Indiana State, Notre Dame
       
�    2) Name the three conferences which had two of their members play each
�    other in the finals and name the matchups.
 
    Big Ten 	- 1976 Indiana over Michigan
    Big East	- 1985 Villanova over Georgetown
    Big Eight	- 1988 Kansas over Oklahoma
    
�    3) When was the last time a conference sent two teams to the final 4 and
�    saw neither of them make the finals?
    
    1980  Big Ten - Purdue and Iowa 
    
�    4) What was the matchup the last time the Eastern Regional final did
�    not contain an ACC team?
    
    1980 Iowa over Georgetown
    
    Bob Hunt

    Youre good Bob!!! Well,I guess they're easy for a fellow
    ACC'er(Maryland '78). Did it take you less than a minute?

                   Here's some more NCAA Tourney Trivia:

       Who had the five top scoring averages in NCAA Tourney History?
   (This includes multiple appearances [years], but is still an AVERAGE)
   
                                                   APPEARANCES
      NAME       POINTS      SCHOOL      GAMES        YEARS    

   Austin Carr    41.3     Notre Dame      7         68-70-71
   

   Bill Bradley   33.7     Princeton       9         63-64-65


   Oscar Robinson 32.4     Cincinnati     10         58-59-60
   

   Jerry West     30.6     West Va.        9         58-59-60
   

   Elvin Hayes    27.5     Hhouston       13         66-67-68

                             Here's some more:

   Which players had the top five Single-Game rebounding performances in
   NCAA Tourney History? 

    

       NAME       REBOUNDS               SCHOOLS               YEAR
   
    
   Nate Thurmond     31        Bowling Green vs Mississippi    1963
   

   Jerry Lucas       30           Ohio State vs Kentucky       1961
   

   Tony Kimball      29       Connecticut vs St Joseph's, Pa   1965
   

   Elvin Hayes      28             Houston vs Pacific         1966
   

   Fifth place is ties:

   Elvin Hayes      27           Houston vs Loyala, Ill       1969
   John Green       27         Michigan State vs Notre Dame   1957
   Paul Silas       27          Creighton vs Oklahoma City    1964

   According to Bob Gibbons - ALL STAR SPORTS - in NC (a publication that
   specializes in High School Recruiting), these are the Top Ten IMPACT 
   Freshman for next year:

   RANK    NAME        HEIGHT    POSITION       FROM       SIGNED WITH
                                                        (or committed to)

   1  Glenn Robinson    6'9"     Forward      Gary Ind.       Purdue
   	Hasn't yet qualified academically - Intense Power Player

   2  Chris Webber      6'8"     Forward   Birmingham, Mich  Michigan
   	This year's most gifted athlete - sometimes a showboat

   3  Juwan Howard      6'9"     Forward       Chicago       Michigan
   	Hasn't yet qualified academically - strong, versatile, flashy

   4  Cherokee Parks   6'11"     Center  Huntington Beach,Ca   Duke
   	Top true post player in the draft - great passer - like a Walton

   5  James Forrest     6'7"     Forward       Atlanta     Georgia Tech
   	Compared a lot to Johnson from UNLV - Power + great outside shot

   6  Alan Henderson    6'9"     Forward     Indianapolis    Indiana
   	A star under Knight - great shot - finesse player

   7  David Vaughn     6'10" Center/Forward   Nashville    Memphis State
   	A young David Robinson - great range - great high post

   8  Ben Davis         6'9"     Center  Mouth of Wilson Va   Kansas
   	Big, strong, and goes to the boards with a vengeance

   9  Jalen Rose        6'8"  Guard.Forward     Detroit      Michigan
   	Great three point shooter

   10 Donald Williams   6'3"      Guard       Garner NC    North Carolina
   	Often ccompared to Rodney Moore - a great pure shooter

    Here's some fun trivia:
    
    What NHL team is the only one to have TWO (2) home arenas??
    
    
    The Boston Bruins......one in Boston, the other in Hartford!!! ;^)

Who are the top five highest scoring trios of teammates in NBA History?



Place | Avg. Combined Pts. | Team | Years |    Players    | Avg. Pts.

1st            76.7         Nuggets 82-83  Kiki Vandeweghe    26.7
                                            Alex English      28.4
                                             Dan Issel        21.6

2nd            72.1         Seattle 86-87    Dale Ellis       25.8
                                            Tom Chambers      23.3
                                           Xavier McDaniel    23.0

3rd            71.2         Nuggets 80-81  David Thompson     25.5
                                            Alex English      23.8
                                             Dan Issel        21.9

4th            69.8         Nuggets 81-82   Alex English      25.4
                                             Dan Issel        22.9
                                           Kiki Vandeweghe    21.5

5th            67.6         Phoenix 88-89   Tom Chambers      25.7
                                           Eddie Johnson      21.5
                                           Kevin Johnson      20.4

Note - As of a couple weeks ago, Chris Mullin, Mitch Richmond, and Tim
Hardaway of the Golden State Warriors were averaging 73.8 points per
game. I'm not sure how they're doing right this minute, but it looks
like they'v got a pretty reasonable shot at cracking the top five.

Mike JN

   Here's an all-bargain team for you. Low (comparatively) salaries,
   pretty good skills. If I was an owner/manager, I'd try to get `em all,
   give em a raise, take the pennant, and still have one of the lowest
   payrolls in the league:

   1st Base	Mark Grace	Chicago Cubs	1.2 million
   (Baltimore's Glenn Davis gets 3.2 million.... I'll take Mark)

   2nd Base	Jose Lind	Pirates		575,000

   Shorstop	Ozzie Guillen 	White Sox	1,386,270

   3rd Base	Matt Williams	Giants		600,000
   (Matt had more RBI's than Bobby Bonilla... the boy who wants 20 mil)

   Left Field	Barry Bonds	Pirates		2.3 mil

   Center Field Ron Gant	Atlanta		1,195,000

   Right Field	David Justice	Atlanta		296,000
   (After the All Star Break, hit more homers than Cecil Fielder)

   Catcher	Sandy Alomar jr	Cleveland	$345,000

   Pitcher	John Burkett	Giants		$230,000

   Coach	Mike JN		Denver		1.5 mil
   (and worth every penny of it!)

>Who are the top five highest scoring trios of teammates in NBA History?
    
    The year Wilt scored 50.4 a game, I'm sure he must have had teammates
    that combined put him high on that list, if not over the top.  I think,
    judging from the answers, that your list only includes teammates who
    individually averaged over 20 PPG.
    
    Dan

    re .201
    
    Sure, you might win with tht bunch, but as soon as you do, you'll have
    to pay em...

�    Sure, you might win with tht bunch, but as soon as you do, you'll have
�    to pay em...


   Ain't it da troof!
   But that'd still be better than the way things are usually done.... ie.
   the draft: Pay a fortune up front, and then maybe they'll perform, and
   maybe they won't. Or pay a mediocre pitcher 2 mill.  I still think this
   business is going to bite somebody on the butt, and that somebody is
   going to be the fan.

   Mike JN

    HERE ARE A COUPLE OF OLD ONES.
    
    OPENING DAY 1967, WHO WAS THE STARTING SECOND BASEMAN FOR THE BO-SOX?
    
    
    
	REGGIE SMITH, BROKE INTO THE MAJORS AS AN INFIELDER.
    
    
    OPENING DAY, 1975. WHO WAS THE STARTING RIGHT FIELDER FOR THE BO-SOX?
    
    
    
    
    	TONY C.  THIS WAS HIS COMEBACK YEAR. 

    Summertime,1966
    
    Infamous backstop Bob Tillman of the Fenway Flops attempts to throw
    out a runner trying to steal second base. Who was the unfortunate
    pitcher who was hit in the haid by this oh so accurate toss by
    Tillman?
    Methinks the runner ended up on thoid as the ball ended up near the
    1st base dugout.
    
    A TV shot this Sox fan will never forget
    
    MikeL
    
    Can you spell ineptitude?
     

    re .1:
    
    It was John Wyatt.  I remember the play like it was yesterday.  My
    brothers and sister and I were watching the game over my grandfather's
    house (my grandfather was a diehard Red Sox fan; he probably turns over
    in his grave whenever I talk about the O's).  Tillman fired the strike
    at Wyatt's head, and my nine-year old mind thought that was the
    funniest thing I ever had seen in my life!  My grandfather (who NEVER
    raised his voice about anything) got real indignant and kept saying
    "That's not funny!  That's not funny!", while I was rooooollling
    bigtime on the floor....
    
    
    py

    My friend Pete Palmer has given me a copy of _Total Baseball_, the
    2500+ page baseball encyclopedia that he co-edited and which sells for
    $50.00.  It has sections on every conceivable topic relevant to
    baseball and I'm reading the articles in the book now.
    
    Anyway, I found some interesting stuff about baseball's All Star game
    that I'd like to post here:
    
    1.  What city/franchise has gone the longest without hosting a game
    (this doesn't include a city like Brooklyn whose franchise moved after
    last hosting)?
    
    2.  The two-team cities (New York 7 times - 3 Yankees, 2 Giants, 1 each
    Mets and Dodgers and Chicago 6 times - Cubs and White Sox 3 times each)
    have hosted more All Star games than any other city.  After them, 3
    cities are tied for most games with 4 times each.  What are they?
    
    3.  What franchises have hosted the most All Star games?
    
    John

    I-N-N-E...
    
    I-N-E-B-T...
    
    I-N-E-P-T-A...
    
    I-N-E-P-T-I-T-E-W-D!!!
    

    So now we have the Spelling Militia to go along with the Apostrophe
    Police.  Welcome to the wonderful world of law enforcement!
    
    'Police

    J'ohn, I do'nt care whut yo'u say - Im hear to of'fer a chalunge to
    youre c'o'rrpt po-lease f'o'rce!!
    
    So their !

    Correct!
    Youse guys win the kewpie dolls. You shall shortly receive in the mail
    a small bottle containing the remaining Vasoline (sp I hope the Militia
    don't come after me) from John Wyatt's extensive collection.
    
    MikeL
    Original member of the Pumpsie Green/Gene Conley fan club
    

    John H., regarding .205
    
    Question 1. Was it the Boston Red Sox ( 1961 0r 62 ? wif Stu Miller
    of the Giants getting blown off the mound?  Ahem, By the Wind)
    
    MikeL
    

    re .213
    
    VASELINE!!!!  When did Wyatt come "out of the closet"??????
    
    
    
    
    JaKe
    

    Nope.  The Red Sox have gone second longest without hosting a game.
    
    There is also one other city that has never hosted an All-Star Game. 
    This isn't Toronto, because they're hosting their first one this year.
    
    John

    Regarding 1961 -
    
    From 1959 - 1962, there were 2 All-Star games.  The Stu Miller incident
    happened in 1961 but in San Francisco, not Boston.
    
    John

    JH
    
    Seattle has never hosted the ALl-Star game?
    
    Longest w/o the game:  Shea Stadium.
    
    JD

    1.  What city/franchise has gone the longest without hosting a game
    (this doesn't include a city like Brooklyn whose franchise moved after
    last hosting)?

    Has to be either Baltimore or the Cubs.  However, Arlington has never
    hosted the All Star game (although Washington last did in 1969).
    
    2.  The two-team cities (New York 7 times - 3 Yankees, 2 Giants, 1 each
    Mets and Dodgers and Chicago 6 times - Cubs and White Sox 3 times each)
    have hosted more All Star games than any other city.  After them, 3
    cities are tied for most games with 4 times each.  What are they?

    Gueeses:  St.Louis, Cincinnati, Milwaukee   (or Washington)
    
    3.  What franchises have hosted the most All Star games?
    
    Braves, Reds

    1.  Baltimore has gone the longest without hosting an All-Star game
    (1958!) and Boston in 1961 in the American League.  California,
    Minnesota, Cleveland, New York, Kansas City (Athletics and Royals) and
    Washington have hosted the All-Star game twice since Baltimore last
    hosted it.  Seattle had the game in 1979.  Toronto is the only
    franchise that has never hosted the All Star game though they will this
    year.  Texas has never had the game (though the team did have the game
    twice in Washington) and Oakland had never had the game until 1987,
    though the franchise had hosted it once each in Philadelphia and Kansas
    City.
    
    In the National League, New York (1964) and St Louis (1966) have gone
    the longest.  Since then, Cincinnati and Houston have both hosted it
    twice.  The Cubs last hosted in 1990 (how soon we forget!).
    
    2.  The cities that have hosted the game most, after New York and
    Chicago are Cleveland, Cincinnati, Washington and St Louis at 4 times
    each.  Washington and St Louis are with 2 different franchises.
    
    3.  The teams that have hosted the game the most are Cincinnati,
    Cleveland, the Giants (2 times in New York and 2 times in San
    Francisco) and the Twins (2 times in Washington and 2 times in
    Minnesota).
    
    The book itself is tremendous.  It has updated averages on all players
    who'd ever appeared in games with chapters on the history of baseball,
    individual team histories, a page on each World Series and LCS, pinch
    hitting, families, untimely deaths, umpires, college baseball, Negro
    League baseball and many, many other topics.  It's meant to both be a
    reference book and go beyond with good writing on lots of other things.
    
    John

I believe I have the first edition of this book (wiht Carlton Fisk on the cover)
and I agree with everything you have said John.  My book has EXCELLENT
essays on baseball history etc along with complete records...

Superb book.  I'll have to look into getting the second edition.

'Saw

    There is an update supplement to the first edition of Total Baseball
    that should be available in the same bookstores that sell the full
    book.
    
    I got your package too, 'Saw and thanks.
    
    John

Enjoy!

    
    	Who is the only player to win All-Star MVP in *both* the ABA
    and the NBA?
    
    						 glen j.
    

    
    Dr. J is the only possibility I can think of.  Is that too obvious?
    
    Dickstah
    

    Moses Malone?

    .225 & .226
    
    	Strike 1 & 2!
    
    	Hint: His nickname was "The Skywalker."
    
    						 glen j.
    

    Thompson?

    
    
       David Thompson, ABA rookie of the year in 1975, scorer of 73
    points in the final game of the '78 season(only to have Gervin
    win the scoring title w/63 points later that night), was the NBA
    All-Star MVP in the 1979 game, and the ABA All-Star MVP in the 
    final game in 1976.  He was last an all-star for the Seattle
    Supersonics in 1983.
    
    	He currently does community relations work for the Charlotte 
    Hornets and is the featured speaker tonight for the 3rd annual 
    Sports Spectacular of the Mile High Council on Alcoholism and 
    Drug Abuse.  He's been clean for 3 yrs.  
    
    	Elway may be idolized, but doesn't come near the stardom that
    DT, as he used to be known here in Colo., reached when he was 
    a star.  If only.....
    
    						 glen j.

    Re .222
    
    John, unless you've given a new name to Frank Way, "'Saw and thanks",
    you'd better hide from the Comma Police!  :*)
    
    lEe

    
    Kansas City has hired Hal MacRae as their new manager, and his
    son(Brian????) plays for the Royals.
    
    This marks the fourth time in major league history that a father has
    managed his son on a team.  Name the other three
    father-manager/son-player combinations.  Last names are all that is
    necessary.
    
    JaKe
    

    Not really into Baseball but what the hey!
    
    Those guys from Baltimore...The Ripkins..
    The Griffey's
    and I don't have the slightest idea...   Craig?
    
    B.A._who_is_passing_the_time_away!

    The Ripkens is correct.
    
    One down 2 to go.
    
    JaKe
    

    Thanks...
    
    B.A.

     How about the Berra's  (Yogi and Dale) ??

    I'd bet on the Berra's, too.  
    
    How about the Macks?
    
    Lee

I don't know, maybe it was the Rose's.



Steve

    It was in Peter Gammons' column on Sunday - Berra, Mack, McRae and
    Ripken.
    
    John

    re-.1
    
    Yep
    
    
    
    JaKe
    

    
    How many cities have had a World Series Winner, a Super Bowl Winner, and
    a Stanley Cup Champion?
    
    
    
    Yep, Pittsburgh is one - the only city with only one team in each sport.
    
    
    
    New York and Chicago (for you ancient history buffs) are the only
    others.

    The only city with only 1 team in each sport...I kind of see boston
    that way, I know its the New England Patroits but its really the
    celtics, Bruins, Redsox and patroits here in boston..And I believe
    the Celtics, Bruins and REdsox(1 right) have each one the big one
    Has Pittsburgs Baseball Team every won it all ???  The Multi team
    cities have a big advantage for winning multi titles but Id rank
    boston up there with the best of the best in sport towns...
    								M_Air

 �   The only city with only 1 team in each sport...I kind of see boston
 �   that way, I know its the New England Patroits but its really the
 �   celtics, Bruins, Redsox and patroits here in boston..And I believe
 
 Boston is most definitely *not* the only city with just four
 professional teams.   Philadelphia and Detroit both have just four
 pro teams.
 
 The Flyers won two Stanley Cups in 1974 and 1975, the Phillies won
 the World Series in 1980, the Sixers took the NBA title in 1967 and
 1983, and the Eagles have three pre-Super Bowl NFL titles (1948,
 1949, and 1960).    They lost Supe 15, however.
 
 Bob Hunt

 The Twin Cities in Minnesota also have just 1 representative in each
 of the four major pro sports ... Vikings, Timberwolves, North Stars,
 and Twins.
 
 Bob Hunt

In addition, Pittburgh's baseball team, the Pirates, beat the Orioles in the
1979 World Series, markedly remembered because of their inspirational play
and their theme song by Sister Sledge, "We Are Family"....

 boston is disqualified because even if you count the Patriots, they still
 never won a championship even in the old AFL...they've been in a few title
 games but that's about it....

I believe the  CELTICS have the Most basketball Championships and I could have
sworn that the Bruins were either #3 or #5 on the most Stanley Cups...So thats
a 1st place and either a 3rd or 5th....The Redsox and Patriots carry us down a
bit, but is there another 1 team city that has better rankings then this...The
other note is the Bruins have the Current Longest >.500 season streak of any
sport something like 35years....So theyve never sucked....THe patriots gave new
meaning to the word last year, the redsox are a consistently good team but will
never be great and The CELTICS are the Best all Time B-Ball team in all aspects
most championships, longest streak of titles...What can you do..
								M_Air_B

I think the Bruins *might* be fifth, but not third.

I don't have my copy here with me, but in my hockey stats book they listed
dynasties, and Boston wasn't listed.

The teams that fulfilled the "dynasty" criteria were Montreal, Toronto,
Detroit, NY Islanders and the Edmonton Oilers.

Since Boston has a longer NHL history than Edmonton or the Isles, I'd
bet they might be fourth after Montreal, Toronto, Detroit...

But I wouldn't bet my paystub on it.

As to other cities that are right up there in many different sports, you've
got to look at New York....

'Saw

    re   <<< Note 26.246 by VLNVAX::MBROOKS >>>
    
        > the Bruins have the Current Longest >.500 season streak of any
        > sport something like 35years....So theyve never sucked..
    
    That's rich! How far back ya go, young fella? Ever heard of the likes
    of Jerry Toppazini, Vic Stasiak, Bronco Horvath, Fleming Mackell, Leo
    Labine, Bob Armstrong, Leo Boivin, Harry Lumley or Don Simmons? The
    Bruins of the '50's were pathetic.
    
    The key words in the trivia question were SUPER BOWL. Get it?
    
    Rich
     

    Name the youngest player ever to have been awarded the Conn-Smythe
    Trophy.  (Bonus if you know his age)
    
    Answer tomorrow!

    New York has, I'd guess, the most pro champeenships.  I mean the
    Yankees have what, 23 or so titles alone?  That's probably close to all
    of Boston's sports titles together.   The Canadiens have 20+ stanley
    cup victories.
    
    L.A. can't be doing to badly either.  Even if you take away the titles
    the Lakers won in Minny, the Dodgers won in NY, you'd still get a fair
    amount of titles.  
    
    If you take away the Celtics, Boston hasn't had a championship since
    the Bruins in what, 1972, almost 20 years ago?  
    
    Wonder what the titles are per city over the last 25 years?   (that
    basically brings us to the modern expansion times in the sports)
    
    Off the top of my head:
    
    Celtics (1976-1991)  5 titles (?) or is it 6
    Bruins 0
    Pats   0
    Sox    0
    
    
    Yanks  2
    Mets   2
    Giants 2
    Jets   0
    Knicks 0
    Islanders 4
    Rangers  0
    
    Dodgers  2 
    Lakers   5
    Raiders  2
    Kings    0
    Rams     0
    Clippers 0
    
    Don't know the other cities..
    

    Wheels, Patrick Roy? 
    
    Mark.

        Funny this should come up.
    
    	I made a list of major sports championships(NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB)
    won per city(circa 1903)about 2 weeks ago.  New York, by far and away, 
    has the most pro champeenships of any North American city with 46.  
    Among American cities, Boston is 2nd with 27.  I didn't count Canadian
    cities, otherwise Montreal would have probably been a close third.
    
    	Other cities that have won quite a few times are Chicago(15+),
    Detroit(15+), L.A.(10+), Philly(10+), San Fran/Oakland(10+), St. Louis
    (10+ - mostly the Cardinals), and Pittsburgh(10+ - not including 
    recent Pens SC victory).
    
    	I'll bring in the list tomorrow.
    
    						 glen j.

    
    Yeah, but New York offers the opportunity to Wardlevane within the 
    city limits, which you can't do in other places.  Let's break it down 
    by borough...
    
    glenn
      

    Detroit has won championships in each, but the Lions haven't won the
    Super Bowl.
    
    Tigers have won 2 championships in the last 25 years, the Pistons have
    won 2 as well.  I think it's been more than 25 for the Wings...
    
    Big question is, has Pittsburgh won an Arena football title?  

    
    >>Big question is, has Pittsburgh won an Arena football title?  
    
    Bigger question is, Does anybody Care?????
    
    
    JaKe
    

>>    Name the youngest player ever to have been awarded the Conn-Smythe
>>    Trophy.  (Bonus if you know his age)
  
Wheels,

I'd say Bobby Orr at 21 in 1970.

rick

    
    re. 256
    
    Yes.  Detroit Drive has won 3 indoor football championships.  The
    Michigan Panthers won a football championship.

    Lufay,
    
    You were right with Patrick Roy (aged 20) in 1986.....when Bob
    Gainey was still the Captain for Les Habs.

    What do I win?
    
    Mark.

    Speaking of which, when does Arena Football start ? I was looking
    forward to attending a game ....

    accouring to -5 or so back NY has the most Championships out of any
    city and BOSTON is in 2nd...Now if you take into effect that NY has
    the Mets, yankess, Randers, Islander, Jets, Giants and Knicks all 
    under NY thats twice as many teams at boston (approx) Id say that
    puts boston up there as the BEST sports city !!!!!! 
    							M_Air

    I love it - the typical Boston sports fan trying to prove that Boston
    is the best sports city.  What a crock.  I'm not claiming any city is
    the best sports city.  Geez.  Why is it so important for some folks to
    want to prove that Boston is the best sports city?  Are they so
    insecure in their rooting for the home teams that they can't fathom
    that other cities have some incredible fans?  Heck, some places  don't
    have pro sports - but they super fans.   And the author is conviently a
    Bulls fan.  I mean Chicago has won one champeenship in recent memory -
    the Bears in 85 - yet I'd consider Chicago to be one of the best sports
    towns in America.  
    
    And if you want to get technical - just take the old established NY
    teams and compare to Boston - the Yanks, Giants, Rangers and Knicks. 
    they have more champeenships than Boston, if it makes you happy.  The
    Pats have never won,  The SOx last won in 1918, the Bruins in 1972 and
    the Celtics 5 years ago???
    
    If it makes you puff your chest out and get a woodie - hey sure, why
    not, proclaim it the best and be happy.
    
    Geez.
    
    JD

I'm always happy when I have a woodie.....

    RE: .260
    
    �What do I win?
    
    �Mark.
    
    
    NUTHIN........you didn't guess his age! 8^)

      <<< Note 26.249 by WMOIS::BARROWSJ "North Stars: Crash and Burn!" >>>

>    Name the youngest player ever to have been awarded the Conn-Smythe
>    Trophy.  (Bonus if you know his age)
>    
>    Answer tomorrow!

    I protest!  Your original query said that if I guessed his age, I get a
    bonus.  
    
    Mark.
    

    JD,  
    
    Mr. Brooks is not a "typical Boston sports fan."  Jeeez, the guy goes
    to bed with a plastic blow-up doll of Michael Jordan, fercryinoutloud.
    
    re a few back-
    
    Someone listed the Raiders with two LA champpenships.  I think they
    only had one there.
    
    Bruce 

    re .267, yes the only LA championship for the Raiders was 1983.  They
    were still in Oakland when they beat the Eagles in 1980.
    
    re Doc on Arena Football, it must be starting shortly as I saw an ad
    last night on NESN for a June 7th televised game.
    
    
    py

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    Wheels, Patrick Roy? 
    
    Mark.
    
    
    
    Markie,
    
    I don't see where you guessed his age!  8^)
    
    Jo

    	As promised, here is the list of titles won per city.  I've 
    extracted two lists - 1 since 1903 and the other since 1956,
    which covers the modern expansion era.  MLB started keeping track
    of titles in 1903, NHL in 1927, NBA in 1947, and the NFL in 1933.
    New York's titles are further broken down by bourough, and also 
    includes New Jersey(football GIANTS) and Long Island(hockey Islanders).
    Milwaukee and Green Bay were consolidated into the same area since
    the Packers play exhibition and a home game in Milwaukee.  San 
    Francisco and Oakland are also listed as 1 entity.  Enjoy.
    
    
    City				    # of Titles
    ----			 	    -----------
    New York 				        45
      - Bronx                           	22
      - Manhattan                               13
      - Queens                                   3
      - L.I.                                     4
      - Joisey                                   2
      - Brooklyn                                 1
    
    Boston					27
    Detroit					17
    Chicago					15
    Philadelphia 				15
    Los Angeles					13
    San Francisco/Oakland			11
    Pittsburgh					10
    Milwaukee/Green Bay				10
    St. Louis					10
    Cleveland					 7
    Baltimore					 7
    Minneapolis					 6
    Washington					 6
    Cincinatti					 5
    Miami					 2
    Dallas					 2
    Kansas City					 2
    Portland					 1
    Seattle					 1
    Rochester(NBA-1951)			         1
    Syracuse(NBA-1955)		                 1
    
    Since 1956                              # of Titles
    ----------                              -----------
    New York					18
      - Bronx					 6
      - Manhattan				 3
      - Queens					 3
      - L.I.					 4
      - Joisey   				 2
    
    Boston					18
    Los Angeles					12
    San Francisco/Oakland			11
    Pittsburgh					 7
    Philadelphia				 7
    Milwaukee 					 7
    Baltimore					 6
    Detroit 					 5
    St. Louis					 4
    Cincinatti 					 3
    Chicago					 3
    Washington					 3
    Miami					 2
    Dallas					 2
    Kansas City					 2
    Minneapolis/Minnesota      			 1
    Portland					 1
    Seattle					 1
    Cleveland					 1
    
    	
    						 glen j.

    
    Hey, Great List...
    
    A couple of thoughts/problems:
    
    - Pittsburgh has 8 since '56.  
    
    - Why did you choose '56 anyway?  Baseball expanded in 61-62. Hockey
      in 67.  Not sure about Football and Basketball.
    
    - I think you gotta include the Canadian Cities.
    
    - I think you should break up SF/Oakland.  If not, then you might as
      well combine D.C & Baltimore.  (Almost as close and there's no toll!).
    
    - Another interesting study would be the rate of championships per team
      season.  For example, Pittsburgh would have a rate of 6.0%. (10 titles
      in 168 team seasons (5/87 Pirates, 4/57 Steelers, 1/24 Penguins).
    
    Warren

    re: .271
    
    	Definetely missed 1 for Pittsburgh on the '56 list.  Not intentional.
    
    	'56 was a random starting point.  Besides, it wasn't soon
    afterwards that the Dodgers left Brooklyn, Giants left the Polo
    Grounds, the Hawks(B-ball)left St. Louis, etc.
    
    	I disagree on SF/Oakland and with the D.C./Baltimore analogy.
    SF/Oakland are only separated by 8 miles of water, if that.  Though
    D.C. and Bmore are real close for 2 large cities, they are not 
    officially part of the same metropolitan area in the same way that
    Oakland is a part of the San Francisco Metro Area.  DC and Baltimore
    have their own suburbs.  Saying that SF/Oakland should be separate 
    would be like Dallas/Fort Worth should be(if Fort Worth had a professional 
    team).  Or the Twin Cities(Minny/St. Paul).  Your mileage may vary.
    
    	FWIW, I did a separate tally on the Canadian cities.  Montreal
    has 22 Stanley Cup titles(1 by the old Montreal Maroons).  Toronto
    has 11, Edmonton 5, Calgary 1, and Ottawa(whatever team that was)
    has 1.  Since '56, Montreal has 16, Toronto 4, Edmonton 5, Calgary
    1.  Should the CFL be included amongst the tally?  I'll leave that 
    choice up to you and the other noters.
    
    						 glen j.

    You have to divide the number of titles by the number of teams in a
    city. Miami, for example, rankes near the bottom, with "only" 2 Dolphin
    Super Bowls. The only other team in town is the Heat, and they are only
    a couple of years old. Therefore Miami's record is actually much better, 
    since they've won 2 titles in 30 years (?) and the heat 0 in 2, so
    dividing by the # of teams, it averages out to a title every 8 years. 
    New York has 9 teams, and many of them are long established (Ynakees,
    Knicks, Rangers, Giants) so the numbers are misleading.
    
    Tom 

    I have a couple a questions...
    
    1. Who is the only Major League Baseball player to have 500 hits for 4
    different teams?
    
    2. Who is the only player to hit for the cycle in both leagues?
       

    1. Bobby Bonds 
    
    2. Dave Winfield
    
    Mark.

    
    I think Rusty Staub's the first one.  The cycle?  How about Staub
    again?
    
    glenn
    

    Glen Right on the first one, wrong on the second.
    
    

    Kirk Gibson on the second?  No?  Then, how about Frank Robinson?
    
    Lee

    The cycle in both leagues ?
    
    Bob Watson of the Astros and Red Sox ...

    Yup.
    
    here's a fairly easy one. 
    
    Name the 10 men who have 50 or more homers ina single season.

    Felder, Foster, Ruth, Mantle, Maris, Foxx?, 

    Hank Greenburg
    

    re .280
    
    Fielder, Foster, Ruth, Maris, Mantle, Mays, Greenberg, Foxx, Kiner,
    Mize ?

    .284 is missing just 1.

    re: .285
    
    Hack Wilson is the missing one.
    
    John

    Harmon Killebrew (sp)

    .286 is right 

	Need some help clearing up the old foggy memory cells....

	A few days ago my 2 year old son was playing around in the yard with
the fisher price tee ball set, and my daughter said "Dad, he's running the wrong way
around the bases"  
	"Just like Fred Merckle," I replied.  

	But later on I wasn't so sure; I know Fred Merckle is the answer to SOME
bit of baseball trivia, but does it have to do with baserunning the wrong way??

Anyone have the "story behind the story" for good ol' Fred?

Thanks in advance

Mac

    Mac,
    
    Well, you're close.  Fred Merkle was on first when a single scored the
    winning run from third in the bottom of the ninth.  Then everybody
    started celebrating, including Fred, who never made it to second.
    The other team eventually got the ball to second and he was forced
    out, nullifying the run.
    
    I'm pretty sure that this all happened in 1908 in a pennant race
    between Merkle's NY Giants and the Cubs, who eventually won the
    pennant (and their last world series, holy cow).  Merkle was a rookie 
    who went on to a pretty decent career, amazingly enough.  
    
    I remember reading a pretty bizarre account of this in some baseball book, 
    including some fan picking up the ball during the celebration before
    the force out and being punched by a player (Johnny Evers?) before giving 
    up the ball.  Great stuff.
    
    Warren

 �   The other team eventually got the ball to second and he was forced
 �   out, nullifying the run.
 �   
 �   I'm pretty sure that this all happened in 1908 in a pennant race
 �   between Merkle's NY Giants and the Cubs, who eventually won the
 �   pennant (and their last world series, holy cow).  
 
 Your account is correct.  But there's more.   The game ended on the
 field that day with the New York Giants winning by the single run
 knocked in on that final confusing play.
 
 But the Cubs protested that the score was still tied since Johnny
 Evers had stepped on second in time for the force out to end the
 inning.   The Cubs won their protest a few days later and so the two
 teams had to meet at the end of the regular season to resume the
 famous game with the score tied in the top half of the 10th inning.
 
 So, the Cubs and Giants both saved their best pitchers for the
 showdown.   The Cubs threw Mordecai "Three Fingers" Brown and the
 Giants went with the legendary Christy Mathewson.
 
 Brown and the Cubs won and went to the World Series against Ty Cobb's
 Detroit Tigers and the New York Giants and Fred Merkle went home.
 
 A very famous story.
 
 Bob Hunt
 
 P.S.  By the rules, the same thing could also happen with a
 bases-loaded walk.   *ALL* runners must touch the next base before
 the play is complete.   If a runner in a bases-loaded walk situation
 left the field rather than advance to the next base, he could be
 tagged out.

	RE:  last two

		Thanks for the Merkle Mania info, do I qualify for final Jeopardy now??

Mac

    
    
    
    Over in another note, a reference was made to "slicin and dicin";
    
    Speaking of slicin and dicin, does anybody know what recently
    infamous carnivore went to Ohio State?
    
    ~/~
    
    Isn't Ohio State part of the Big 10?
    
    ;^)
    
    
    

    Based on the mega blocks of comments, I figured that this IS the
    place to comment that the Tour de France ended yesterday.  It was
    one by a guy from Spain (only the 5th time in history)
    
    Congrats What's-yer-name!!!!
    
    The 2 time defending champ, Greg Lemond finished 8th (9th?).
    
    

    I don't known the answers to these (I'm fishing for an answer I like),
    but these are triva questions.
    
    1) Since the year of SuperBowl I, what NFL team has had the long streak
    of not making the playoffs?
    
    2) Since SB I, what NFL team has the worst percentage making the
    playoffs?
    
    Motive: In a couple of months I might leaving Green Bay (moving down
    the road to the next town). Before I do, I'd like to let a few people
    in "Title Town" how their team stacks up.
    
    Commander Scott

    The Cardinals or the Falcons????????????
    
    JaKe
    

    
       Gotta be the SAints.
    
    						 glen j.

    
>    1) Since the year of SuperBowl I, what NFL team has had the long streak
>    of not making the playoffs?
   
    I'm pretty sure it's the Saints, since they made the playoffs for the
    first time ever in 1987.
     
>    2) Since SB I, what NFL team has the worst percentage making the
>    playoffs?
    
    Once again, I think it's the Saints.  They've only had 2 appearances in
    the playoffs ever, in '87 and '90.  I can't think of anyone who's had
    less than 2 playoff appearances since '67.
    
    Joe
 

What about Hotlanta?

       The falcons were in the Playoffs in the late 70's.
                                     Denny

 The Atlanta Falcons made the NFL playoffs twice that I can recall.
 
 The 1978 season was the first one where *two* wildcard teams met a
 week before the division winners faced off.    That year, the Falcons
 nipped the Eagles, 14-13, on two very late Bartkowski TD passes.  
 The Eagles lost a chance to win at the gun because they didn't have a
 kicker (believe it or not) and their punter, Mike Michel, miserably
 shanked a FG attempt.    The Falcons then lost their next playoff
 game ... to Dallas, I believe.
 
 The Falcons next made the playoffs in 1980 when they won the NFC West
 with a 12-4 record.    This was their best team ever.   Bartkowski
 still at quarterback with mega-stud William Andrews at running back. 
 They lost to Dallas again in the playoffs.   I seem to recall that
 Danny White hit Drew Pearson or Tony Hill with a last minute TD to
 squeeze out a comeback win.    Dallas then lost to the Eagles the
 next week in Philly for the NFC title.
 
 I don't think they've been back since but they may have made it in
 the 1982 strike year when they just took the top 8 teams from each
 conference and lined them up in a straight elimination tournament.
 
 Bob Hunt

    I'll look it up tonight since I don't have my NFL manual here.  As far
    as percentage goes, I will use a base of 25 years (1966 being the year
    of Super Bowl 1) for all teams except Seattle and Tampa Bay since they
    didn't come into the league until 1976 and 15 years for the Hawks and
    Bucs.  Cincinnati will have a base of 23 years since they came into the
    league in 1968.
    
    It sounds like though what you're really looking for is to show how
    lousy the Packers have been.  If you want to do that it should be
    the years 1968-present (23 years) since the 1967 season was the last
    time the Packers went to the Super Bowl.  In the interest of fairness,
    I'll have 1966 as the first year.
    
    John

> The 1978 season was the first one where *two* wildcard teams met a
> week before the division winners faced off.    That year, the Falcons
> nipped the Eagles, 14-13, on two very late Bartkowski TD passes.  
> The Eagles lost a chance to win at the gun because they didn't have a
> kicker (believe it or not) and their punter, Mike Michel, miserably
> shanked a FG attempt.    The Falcons then lost their next playoff
> game ... to Dallas, I believe.

  Not only that, but Michel missed a PAT which was the margin of victory.
  They did lose to Dallas, 27-20, the following week, but played well,
  leading at half time but a TD, and were in the game until the end.
 
> The Falcons next made the playoffs in 1980 when they won the NFC West
> with a 12-4 record.    This was their best team ever.   Bartkowski
> still at quarterback with mega-stud William Andrews at running back. 
> They lost to Dallas again in the playoffs.   I seem to recall that
> Danny White hit Drew Pearson or Tony Hill with a last minute TD to
> squeeze out a comeback win.    Dallas then lost to the Eagles the
> next week in Philly for the NFC title.

  Biggest loss in Falcon history.  They led by 12 entering the final
  period, I believe. 

> I don't think they've been back since but they may have made it in
> the 1982 strike year when they just took the top 8 teams from each
> conference and lined them up in a straight elimination tournament.
 
  They were the #5 team in the strike season (only team from the western
  division to make the playoffs that year as Saints were 4-5, SF 3-6,
  and LA at 2-9 all missed out).  Falcons lost 30-24 in the Metrodome.

  Atlanta has not been back since.

  The Saints, with 2 playoff appearances since Super Bowl I, are indeed
  the answer to both questions.  Everyone else has made it more times since
  then.
 

if they made it I'd be Lion

    The Lions were the last team in the playoffs - with a losing record -
    during the stike year.  They also won their division (9-7 I think) one
    of the years Billy Sims was a Pro-Bowler.  They may have had some
    apperences during the eaier years also.
    
    RE: picking on Green Bay.
    
    Yah, it may not be sportmanlike but it is fun razzing Packer fans.  Its
    hard to emphathize (sp?) with people who think that since its the
    Lombardi trophy that GB will always be the greatest team.  Or when a
    local song talks about using deer rifles on Chicago tourists.  And a
    local bank's advertizing pitch is that all of their branches are in
    the local area.
    
    (Boy do faces turn red when I say I like the Bears. ;^)  )
    
    Thanks for the info so far.
    Commander Scott

    Lowest playoff appearance percentage since 1966 - New Orleans - 2/24 or
    8.3%.
    
    Fewest appearances since 1966 - New Orleans with 2 (1987 and 1990), and
    4 teams tied at 3:  Atlanta with 3 (1978, 1980 and 1982), Detroit with
    3 (1970, 1982 and 1983), Tampa Bay with 3 (1979, 1981 and 1982) and
    Cardinals with 3 (1974, 1975 and 1982).  Green Bay has been in 4
    playoffs (1966, 1967, 1972 and 1982).  If you ask the question such
    that you use 1968 as the starting year then Green Bay is indeed tied
    with New Orleans for fewest playoff appearances with 2 and 8.7%.
    
    The teams that have gone the longest since being are the ones above -
    Atlanta, Detroit, Green Bay, Tampa Bay and the Cardinals have not been
    in the playoffs since 1982, which was the year of the expanded
    playoffs.
    
    The longest non-appearance string since the Super Bowls were founded
    belongs to the Saints who missed the playoffs for 20 years before
    making them for the first time in 1987.  The Saints were founded in
    1967.  The team that went the longest without making the playoffs was
    the Steelers.  From the beginning of the NFL playoff system in 1933
    they went 49 years before making their first appearance in 1972.  Other
    long no-show streaks belong to Denver (17 years), New York Giants (17
    years), Cardinals (24 years), Washington (25 years) and San Francisco
    (20 years).
    
    The teams that have made the most appearances since 1966 are Dallas
    (17), Rams and Raiders (16 each), Minnesota (15), Miami (13), Cleveland
    and Pittsburgh (12 each), Washington and San Francisco (11 each).
    
    The most playoff appearances ever belong to the Rams (21), Giants (20),
    Cleveland (19), Washington (17) and Raiders (16).  The highest
    percentage of making the playoffs all-time are the Raiders at 16/31,
    51.6% and Cleveland, 19/41, 46.3%.
    
    John

    re: John
    
    Thanks for the info - nothing like a complete listing.
    
    Commander Scott

    In 1965 and 1966, the Los Angeles Dodgers 4 starting infielders were
    all switch hitters.  Name them.
    
    
    JaKe
    

    Wes Parker, Jim Lefebvre, Maury Wills and Junior Gilliam (although I
    think John Kennedy started more games).
    
    John

    Correct-a-mungo!!
    
    JaKe
    

    
    The Tops Baseball Card Company announced that the tradition they
    
    began in 1952 of putting a slab of chewing gum in each card pack
    
    has been discontinued!
    
    I suppose the card collectors who never opened up their packs will
    
    now begin to sell them, as vintage "Days gone bye" souveniers
    
    for several hundred dollars each!  :*(
    
    Hey, Moochie Matt fans, what say you that we start a letter writing
    
    campaign to restore this great 'merican tradition?  We did it before
    
    and we cain do it again!
    
    BTW - in case you didn't know, the gum was Bazooka
    
    Kev
    

    Kev
    
    Do
    
    you
    
    have
    
    to
    
    skip
    
    lines
    
    all
    
    the 
    
    time
    
    ?
    
    8
    
    ^
    
    )
    
    BTW
    
    Who
    
    Was
    
    the 
    
    Dude
    
    in 
    
    the
    
    Bazooka
    
    Joe
    
    cartoons
    
    wif
    
    the
    
    red
    
    sweater
    
    up 
    
    to
    
    his
    
    neck
    
    ?
    
    
    Mike
    
    L
     
    
    

Yeah, Kev, who'd you think you are?  Stephen King writing for
Cavelier or something?

Everytime I read one of your replies, I have this overwhelming urge to
find a blue pencil....

I mean, even when I'm writin' stuff, I single space it and then let
EVE turn every LF-CR into a LF-CR-CR for me....


8^)

'Saw

       Sluggo was Nancy's friend. And Mr. Bill's tormentor.
                                            Denny

    MikeL & 'Saw,
    
    I was wondering who would be the first.  I guess Mikel, you win!
    
    Ya see, for the better part of three years I've been accessing this
    
    conference and been thoroughly amused at the creativity of the
    
    participants.  ::Crunchie was always shouting, RCaso was a creative
    
    genius, dInZ was a druggie, most folks had terrific P-names, Ninj
    
    is a dastistical wonder, the majority of folks here have the quickest
    
    wit I've ever come across and then there's li'l ol' me!  :^(
    
    My P-name hasn't changed for three years and I've been giving a lot of
    
    thought as to what I could do to differentiate myself and finally 
    
    I hit upon it!  I'd double-space everything I wrote!  Hence, my
    
    recent notes.
    
    But, do not call me insensitive or a cruel person because there is
    
    a sincere, truthful, and meaningful reason for this, one which is 
    
    sure to be felt as a blessing by the noting community although
    
    I'm doubtful that they'll ever 'fess up and admit that my new 
    
    style is beneficial to them but in my heart, I know......
    
    
    
    
    I'm actually typing S L O W L Y  to help the poorer readers and as 
    
    an added benefit, my newfound style helps prevent eye fatigue!  So,
    
    as you see, I'm more of a benefit than an irritation!!!
    
    ;^)
    
    Kev
    
    

    Kev,
    Ya know, your style is easier on the eyes. I thought you was hidin'
    some invisible messages in betwixt akin to Beatles' records being
    played backwards.
    
    8^)
    MikeL
    

    People are going to see your 50 line replies, Kev and think you're T or
    sumthin and hit the nexted unseen key ;^)

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    SJU sips!
    
    Conan
    

Well, I see a ton of DECcies who had nothing better to do on Friday
afternoon but play with their terminals.

Oh well, I suppose that's better than playing with the Wermacht guy....

    REP A FEW BACK
    
    	Joe Polucka???
    
    Cadailla
    
     

    Found these in yesterday's paper:
    
    7 NFL "Lasts"  Give the Who and When
    
    1.  Last drop-kicked field goal 
    
    2.  Player without helmet 
    
    3.  Scoreless tie
    
    4.  Drop-kicked PAT
    
    5.  Two-way player
    
    6.  Lineman without facemask
    
    7.  Straight-on kicker
    
    
    Answers follow:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
     
    1.  Dutch Clark, 1937
    2.  Dick Plasman, 1941
    3.  Giants-Lions, 1943
    4.  Joe Vetrano, 1948
    5.  Chuck Bednarik, 1960
    6.  Jesse Richardson, 1964
    7.  Steve Cox, 1987.
    
    I remember the last three, although I didn't know the answers before I
    read them.  
    
    Anyway, Jesse Richardson played for the Pats.  If you ever saw him,
    you'd have a pretty good idea he didn't wear a facemask.  What an ugly
    son-of-a-gun he was!
    
    Lee

    
>    1.  Last drop-kicked field goal 
>    2.  Player without helmet 
>    4.  Drop-kicked PAT
    

In these things, along with the two way player, you can see the last
vestiges of football's ancestor, rugby, slipping away.


Drop kicks.  One of the hardest things to do in sport, I think, it to
drop kick a ball through the uprights.  It's a little easier with a
rugby ball because the point isn't so pointy, but even still....
In football, it's truly a lost art....


'Saw

    Let's see :
    
    1. Paul Horning ?
    2. Bill Hewett
    3. Miami and ????
    4. ?????
    5. Chuck Bednarik was the last to do it for the bulk of a season. Roy
    Green played DB (he was drafted as one) and WR his first 2-3 years.
    6. I know Bobby Layne played QB without a facemask, but lineman ? 
    Bob St Clair ?
    7. Mark Mosley or Rick Danmeyer

Name 8 professional teams from the following leagues: NBA, Major League
Baseball, NHL, NFL and the CFL (Canadian Football League) that have the
same name.  A non-existant example would be Boston Bruins and Portland
Bruins.  CFL may make it difficult for you folks, but what the heck.

Grant.

    1 Jets - NY and Win-a-Pig
    2 Oilers - Edmonton and Houston
    3 Lions - Detroit and British Columbia
    4 Kings - LA and Sacremento
    5 Giants - NY and SF
    6 Rangers - Ny and Texas
    7 Cardinals - St. Loius and Phoenix
    8 RoughRiders - Ottawa and Saskatchewan
    

    
    	Didn't Roy Green play both ways for the Cards?
    
    	Claybroon

    
     trivia:
    
     What does the A&W stand for in A&W rootbeer ??
    
    

Arsenic and Water??

    A__holes and Whiners
    
    Originated in Clevescum.
    
    JaKe
    

    Allen & Walker.....
    
     But I like youz guyis better !!
    
    Big Game

    
    	Name the only school (and the coaches who won 'em) which
    	currently employs coaches who have won NCAA Div. 1 national
    	titles in basketball and football.
    
    	And none of you gomers who get the Gazette Telegraph are
    	eligible! :*)
    
    	Claybone

    
>       Name the only school (and the coaches who won 'em) which
>    	currently employs coaches who have won NCAA Div. 1 national
>    	titles in basketball and football.
 
    Louisville, Schnellenberger and Crum...
        
    glenn
    
    

 �   	Name the only school (and the coaches who won 'em) which
 �   	currently employs coaches who have won NCAA Div. 1 national
 �   	titles in basketball and football.
 
 Easy.   Louisville.   Denny Crum's basketball team won the NCAA title
 in both 1980 and 1986.   
 
 And Howard Schnellenberger, the current football coach, won the 1983
 mythical football championship with Miami and Bernie Kosar and the
 Hurricanes' great 31-30 win over unbeaten Nebraska in the 1984 Orange
 Bowl.
 
 Next ...
 
 Bob Hunt
 

 Damn, I gotta either type faster or say less ...
 
 Bob Hunt

    
    	The laatter Bob!  :*)
    
    	Claybone

    Ha ha, good shot there, Claybone!!11  :*)
    
    lEe

    Okay trivia fans, here goes:
    
    What significant event occured in the world of college basketball on
    March 2, 1974?
    
    Press RETURN if you need some hints.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    Hint 1:	You can assume the ACC is involved.
    
    Hint 2:	You can assume that North Carolina was involved.
    
    Hint 3:	You can assume the event took place in Carmichael
    		Auditorium.  
    
    Hint 4:	North Carolina's opponent in the game at hand was
    		Duke University.
    
    

    Oh sh!t, let me hazzard a guess, Snuffy Smif won the big one for the
    only time!!!!!
    
    JaKe
    

    [insert sound of_a LOUD rejection buzzer]
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    
       The last time a UNC team didn't make the Sweet Sixteen?
    
    
    						 glen j.

    Good guess glen, but nope.  
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    My guess only shows how much I follow college(or any, for that matter)
    basketball.
    
    JaKe
    

    
    
    
    
    
    
    		Richard Nixon???????

      It was the lasted time Towson State or Cornell beat UNC?
                                  Denny

    re: .764
    
    Wrong.
    
    
    
    re: .765
    
    Wrong.
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    The Heels, led by Walter Davis, overcame a 6-8 point lead in the lasted
    few seconds of the game to beat Duke.
    
    John

>    The Heels, led by Walter Davis, overcame a 6-8 point lead in the lasted
>    few seconds of the game to beat Duke.
    
Well, color me woodyward.....

    Correct, Mr. Hendry.
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    It was the last time NC beat Duke at home ?
    
    Thank you ! 

     
    Here's an interesting but tough one I came across:
    
    Since WWII, only four college football players have been recognized
    by the NCAA as three-time concensus All-Americas (since freshman
    eligibility, no player has ever gone four-for-four).  One was an
    oldtimer from the SWC who played two platoon, one played offense, and 
    two played defense (at the same school, no less).
    
    I would probably consider only one of these players to be an obvious
    choice, although all of the players were well known...
    
    glenn
    

-    Since WWII, only four college football players have been recognized
-    by the NCAA as three-time concensus All-Americas (since freshman
-    eligibility, no player has ever gone four-for-four).  One was an
-    oldtimer from the SWC who played two platoon, one played offense, and 
-    two played defense (at the same school, no less).

Wild guess ...

John David Crow for the old SWC warhorse.
Herschel Walker for the offensive player.
Jack Ham and Matt Millen for the two defenders from the same school.

Probably 0-for-4 ...

Bob Hunt

                  
>    Herschel Walker for the offensive player.
 
    That's the "easy" one.  Undoubtedly would have been the only
    four-time All-America had he stayed in school his senior year.
    The most heralded freshman ever, and a national champeen at the
    tender age of 18.
    
    If I hear any correct answers, I'll jump in.
    
    glenn
    

    Doak Walker from SMU?
    
    MikeL
    

    	Yeah I think it might be Doak Walker too.  How about Archie
    Griffith, Bubba Smith and Tommy Nobis?
    
    				/Don

    Ted hendrick and Rosey Grier?
    
    MikeL
    

    Doak Walker, Tony Dorsett, and Leon Hart ?

    Kevin Hardy and Ross Browner
    
    MikeL
    

    Dick Butkus?

    
    Still no correct answers on the defensive consensus All-Americas.
    I also neglected to mention a third three-timer from the defense.
    This guy played for an Eastern school.  The other two guys from
    the same school came from the West.  All played since 1970.
    
    Give up?
    
    glenn
    

    
    	Ronnie Lott for one of the west dudes and how 'bout
    	Hugh Green from the east?
    
    	Claybone

  LT and Ronnie Lott

    Richard wood and Ronnie Lott
    
    Shane Conlon
    
    MikeL
    

well if it wasn't Lott then how about Kenny Easley of UCLA?

    
    Kenny Easley... bingo!  The last guy should be a gimme now.
    
    glenn
    

    Defense :
    
    Lee Roy Selmon and Brain Bosworth ? (OU)

    I just read .366
    
    East : Hugh Green ? (Pitt)
    
    West : Ronnie Lott and ???? (USC)
    Or Kenny Easley and ???? (UCLA)

    Actually Glenn, Kenny Easley *was* the easy one. 
    
    How about the late Don Rodgers ? Or that kid who's a rookie for the
    Browns ?
    
    Doc

    Good guess Doc
    I thought of Selmon but couldn't figure out the second (Bosworth)
    
    Let's see
    Kenny Easley= UCLA.
    I'm drawin a blank. UCLA weren't specially known for their D
    
    MikeL
    
    

    
    There you go, MikeL!  Ex-Bruin, Philadelphia Eagle and Dick Vermeil
    favorite Jerry Robinson was the final three-time consensus 
    All-America.
    
    Entire list (post-WWII):
    
    Doak Walker, SMU (Back)	  1947-49
    Jerry Robinson, UCLA (LB)	  1976-78
    Kenny Easley, UCLA (DB)	  1978-80
    Hugh Green, Pitt (D.Line)	  1978-80
    Herschel Walker, Georgia (RB) 1980-82
    
                           
    glenn
    

    Ok,
    
     This ain't sports trivia but it's a toughy and I don't have the answer
    but I would really appreciate any help in getting it.  We have a daily
    e-mail trivia question that goes out over the tube and I'm perfect for
    the year and want to keep it that way so...
    
    	What are the names of Daisy Ducks (donald's babe) nieces...
    
    BGH

    
    >>	What are the names of Daisy Ducks (donald's babe) nieces...
    
    John Elway, Bernice Kosar, and Wicky Wacky Wyche.
    
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    

    
    	Remaining perfect by using other people's knowledge Big
    	Game?  A travesty.......
    
    	Claybroon

 Louie, Huey and Duey....

 mike

    Ahhh...  You misunderstand Mr. Wad...  It is not only common parctice
    to do so, but accepted as creative problem solving.  Something you
    FCC boys run short on !!   ;^)
    
    Big Game Hunta

    
     Mike,
    
     You also misunderstand (or can't read)...  I said Daisy Ducks
    Nieces !!!! Not Donalds NEFEWS !!!!
    
    Big Game

    
    Mike,
    
    	I thought they were named Mac, j., and 'Saw    
    
    	heh heh
    
    Claybroon

    Well,  Never did get it right.  Called the Disney store, looked in 
    the Disney notes file and couldn't even find reference to them.  Got
    the answer in the mail today...  April, May, and June.

    
      whatta matter Jack,  don't you know what month it is?^

    
    	What NFL QB holds the record for most interceptions?
    
    <again, none of you Colorado folks are eligible!  So you'd
     better not spoil it or Moose and Guido are coming to see you!>

    
    
    	How about frantic Fran Tarkinton?
    
     Claywad I have not read the GT yet.
    
    Cadzilla 

    
    	Obviously there Cadbury!
    
    	Can't get nuthin' by ole glenn.  GB it is.  It was interesting
    	to read that he started out playing for Chicago in 1949 and
    	played til 1975!  I mean, I knew he played a while but geez.
    
    	Let it be known from this day forward, that NOBODY in CO is
    	eligible to answer any trivia questions I put in...unless
    	they get it wrong. :*)
    
    	Claybroon

    I think Tarkenton passed Blanda for the all time INT mark.

    
    	According to the local rag, Blanda holds the career mark...
    
    	Claybroon

  <<< Note 26.396 by GENRAL::WADE "Whose idea was it to hang these ferns?" >>>

    
>>    	According to the local rag, Blanda holds the career mark...
    
    	Claybroon


 yeah but can you trust the local rag, when it comes to Raiders???

 ;^)

    
    	Good one Mikey!
    
    	Here's another:  What school has gone to a bowl game and the NCAA
    	basketball tournament each of the last 5 years?
    
    	Claybroon

    Michigan?
    

    Hate to agree with Leary, but I'd say Syracuse too.  :^)
    
    PS - I only read the Calhan Gazette at work and it wasn't in today's
    version, so I'm eligible!
    
    
    Joe

    Could be worse,Joe. I could be a closet Raider fan! 8^)
    
    MikeL
     

    I'd guess Michigan too...
    
    Got a calendar for the holidays...
    
    Couple more questions...
    
    Name the only boxer on the Sgt. Pepper album cover
    
    Name the 3 NBA guards to score 1000 fg's in a season.

    
    	Syracuse it is!  Good job MikeL.  
    
    	Yeah, I know it wasn't in today's section Joe.  However, it
    	was in Saturday's.  Since I trust nobody, NONE of you Colorado
    	folks are eligible!  
    
    	Claybroon

    Three guards - 1000 FG's ?
    
    Jordan, West, and Gervin ?
    
    Or Jordan, Gervin, and Pistol Pete ?

    casius clay !!

    Okay SPORTS fans.  Name the only player in NBA history to win the
    following:
    
    	1. High School Championship 
        2. NIT Championship
    	3. NCAA Championship
        4. NBA Championship
    
    WILDCAT

    re-1,
    
    	Magic...?
    
    B.A.
    

    Henry Bibby?
    
    Clay isn't right.
    Doc has 2 of 3 for the guards question... (Jordan & Gervin)
    

    Tiny Archibald?   Oscar Robertson?
    
    REK

    .408,
    Knowin' yer roots 'CAT, it's gotta be either Kevin Grevey or Rick
    Robey.
    
    MikeL
    

    Yo Clay, re. .405
    For my prize, can I get Joe C. to wear a Notre Dame shirt fer 1 day?
    I'll trust you Colorado boys to verify. 8^)
    
    MikeL
    
    

    HAHA Slash,
    I vividly remember Cousy " Wick Wobey gwabs the offensive webound afta
     a pick by Tiny in da pewiwifery. And he wams it home. Whew (legit
    W sound)."
    
    MikeL
    P.S. I know I shouldn't poke fun at an impediment so all 8^)'s, but
    it got me rollin' (wollin').
    

    Sonny Liston...  Was on the cover of Sgt. Pepper !!
    
    Big Game Junta

    
    	Clay is always right! :*)
    
    	Nah MikeL, I don't think so.  I wouldn't wish that on my
    	woist enemy. :^)
    
    	The trivia question yesterday was kinda tough.  I don't even
    	know if it's worth entering, but, here 'tis (slightly modified):
    
    		Which two teams participated in the game which set
    		the record for most pass attempts in a playoff game?
    
    	Extra credit:  What year did this playoff game take place?
    
    	Extra extra credit:  How many passes did they attempt total?
    
    	Claybroon

    
    A Guess:
    
    SD vs. Miami    1982    83 attempts
    
    Brews

    "Wewease Bawabass!" - Life of Brian

 "HIM, HIM, HIM ... him, him, him" - Life Of Brian
 
 Bob Hunt

    Liston is correct.
    
    Archibald was the 3rd guard...

    Hey... I got one right!!!
    
    REK

      It seems like it would be a game with either the jets or fish in it, 
    if not both.
    
      Is that a good non-cheat guess?
    
    	Tim

    Hey...  I got one right too...  Seems maybe I know more about sports
    than some believe.  Or maybe I just know something about the Beatles.
    
    Big Game Junta

    
    	Alright, I figured that was kind of a toughie.  The answer
    	is the Jets and Browns.  The game was in 1986 and they threw
    	65 passes betweenst them.
    
    	Today's question is stoopid so I ain't enterin' it.....
    
    	Claybroon

    re .415
    
    MikeL, you know me too well!  The correct answer is Rick Robey.  Robey
    won his high school championship, the 1976 NIT, 1978 NCAA, and a
    championship with the Celtics (can't remember year).
    
    Robey got his big break with the Celt's when Dave Cowens was having
    back problems.  Unfortunately, back problems led to Robey's retirement
    from the NBA.
    
    WILDCAT

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    Hey...  I got one right too...  Seems maybe I know more about sports
    than some believe.  Or maybe I just know something about the Beatles.
    
    Big Game Junta
    
    
    
   Nah, BG.
    Or maybe you gots the album jacket in yo' office. That's much more
    believable than the other two! 8^)
    
    MikeL
    

>    For my prize, can I get Joe C. to wear a Notre Dame shirt fer 1 day?
>    I'll trust you Colorado boys to verify. 8^)
    
    Hey Leary, you got the question right but remember that I didn't lose
    any bets/contests here so I shouldn't be unduly punished. :^)  If'n you
    wanna make a bet, how about something like the ND-Syracuse b-ball game?
    :^) :^)
    
>    	Today's question is stoopid so I ain't enterin' it.....
    
    Betcha I can still answer it, though!  :^)
    
    
    Joe

    Joe,
    Give me 20 points and I'll think about it. After all, game's at
    SU, Irish have come back to earth. Game's in February, right? (don't
    have me schedule handy).
    
    MikeL
    8^)
    

    MikeL...
    
     I don't have the cover in my office.  And, I rule in the
    sports&leisure catigory of Trivia.  Like I've said many times,
    If I want to hear a bunch of Bozo's tell me what sports is
    supposed to be all about I'd read the local rag.  In this file I
    get to have a bunch of Bozo's tell me about alot more that just sports.
    
    
    Big Game

    Is this the new, sensitive BG?
    Didn't ya see the smiley? Please take the serious tone away, I was
    just bustin' yo' cojones (something you do quite well to others and
    I appreciate). 
    
    MikeL
    
    

    
    	Which 3 NBA franchises have averaged more than 49 wins
    	per season?
    
    	Claybroon

	the Minneapolis/LA Lakers, the Bucks, and the Celtics

	Kevin

    Sorry, MikeL...  I've been really testie ever since the Donks
    blew a shot at another SB...  Oh Well !!
    
    BGJ

    re .437
    
    	I get the questions from the local paper Kev.  That's why
    	I keep saying that CXO folks are not eligible to answer.
    
    	Please try to keep up.........
    
    	Claybroon

	Oops...It felt right to get one though.  I'll button my lip - er fingers.

	Kevin

    
    	That's OK Kev.  I'll forgive you seeing as how you've
    	got your hands full with triplets. :^)
    
    	Today's question:  Who holds the NHL record for consecutive
    	50-goal seasons?
    
    	Claybroon

       Gretzky?
                                 Denny

    Mike Bossy.
    
    What do I win?
    
    Mark.

    
    	LeafyBeaver has the correct answer.  Gretzky has 9 seasons
    	of 50 or more goals but his longest streak is 8.  I don't
    	know if that is an existing streak BTW.
    
    	Bossy did it for the Islanders from 77-78 to 85-86.
    
    	Mark, you win the privilege of buying me beers.
    
    	Claybroon

    Clay, 
    
    <censored>
    
    Mark.

    
    	Sheesh!  OK, how 'bout an autographed picture of me? :^)
    
    	Claybroon

    Speakin' a_autographed pictures....Hawk?
    
    Mark.

    
    >><<< Note 26.438 by QUASER::HUNTER "Steelers To The Super Bowl In `93" >>>

    >>Sorry, MikeL...  I've been really testie ever since the Donks
    >>blew a shot at another SB...  Oh Well !!
    
    >>BGJ
    
    
    Chripes Sakes, you'd think youse Donks fans would be USED to it by now.
    
    
    JaKe
    

    
     Not as used to it as you sillyassed Squeelers fans have been for the
    past decade..  FaKe..  <censored>
    
    BG

    
    	What was the name of the 1st Super Bowl?
    
    	Claybroon

    Who was the youngest player ever to play in the NBA ?

    
    This should be easy!!
    
    Who was known as the "Houdini of the Hardwoods"?
    
    Cadzilla

  <<< Note 26.450 by GENRAL::WADE "Whose idea was it to hang these ferns?" >>>

    
    >	What was the name of the 1st Super Bowl?
    
    Wayne?
    
    

    
    BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!
    
    	Slashah and Mark are both wrong.......
    
    Claybroon

    The youngest player in NBA history was Bill Willoughby.

    Super Bowl I ?
    
    Wasn't it "The AFL-NFL World Championship Game" ?

    Ah yes, New Joisey schoolboy legend Bill Willoughby.  Without a doubt,
    he made a huge mistake in skipping college.  Unlike Moses and Dawkins,
    who where big centers, Willoughby wasn't as big - and not ready for the
    pounding he'd take in the NBA.  His career was mostly  that of a
    journeyman.
    
    JD

    
    	Give the man with many zeroes in his name a Ceeeeeegar!  However,
    	I have this sneaky suspicion that somebody out here is mailing
    	the answers out cuz they aren't allowed to play. :*)
    
    	Claybroon

    Who was the leading scorer for the 69-13  1971-72 Lakers?

    Ain't me Clay....  In Fact, Dr. 00:00:00.00 also was the first 
    to answer my question correctly.  Bill W. is the youngest to ever 
    play in the NBA

           <<< Note 26.462 by ROYALT::ASHE "Note new node name..." >>>

>    Who was the leading scorer for the 69-13  1971-72 Lakers?
    					^^^^^
    
    
    Huh?
    
    Mark.

    I'd say Gail Goodrich, with Jerry West a close 2nd ....

    The 1971-72 Lakers went 69-13, bested regular season record in NBA
    history.
    
    John

    Who was that masked man ?
    
    

    It was Goodrich...

    As most of you probably know by now, the Suns became the 5th franchise
    to win 1,000 games last Friday night.  Of the 5 that have done it,
    Phoenix did it the 4th fastest in taking 24 years to do it.  They are
    also the only one in the group that hasn't won a title.  Name the other
    4 teams, and the # of years it took them for an extra bonus:
    
    1.
    2.
    3.
    4. Phoenix    24 years
    5.
    
    I'll post the answers later today.
    
    Mike

 my guess  1. Fakers  18 yrs  2. Celtics. 18.1 yrs  3. Sixers 22 yrs
 5. Knicks 25 yrs.

    
    How many years it took a team to win 1000 games is meaningless since
    the early teams played less than the current 82 games per season.  Look
    at how many games it took.
    
    Brews

    Owverall, stats like 'franchise victories' are meaningless.  In pro
    sports, what really counts is champeenship banners.   Total victories
    can do nothing but show a history of winning seasons - but even that
    becomes hollow if there's no linen hanging from the rafters.
    
    JD

    Number of victories over the course of a team's history is meaningless
    since it has to do almost totally with longevity.  Same with losses. 
    Teams that have been around for a while, such as the Celtics, lead in
    wins and are close to the top in losses too.
    
    Winning percentage over history is a better measure of a franchise's
    productivity.  But of course, championship banners are better.
    
    John

    
    > Owverall, stats like 'franchise victories' are meaningless.  In pro
    > sports, what really counts is champeenship banners.   Total victories
    > can do nothing but show a history of winning seasons - but even that
    > becomes hollow if there's no linen hanging from the rafters.
    
    No, what really counts is offering an all-around quality product which
    fans can readily and affordably enjoy.  I'm not talking in terms of 
    "better" or "best", just "good" and "bad".  I think Phoenix is a 
    franchise that has satisfied the criterion for goodness in quality 
    sports entertainment.
    
    Championships are gravy, the rare rewards that are to be celebrated and
    cherished when and and if they come.  I don't think there's anything 
    hollow about a season that doesn't end in one (from a fan's perspective, 
    not a player's).  If I felt otherwise, I wouldn't waste my time with
    spectator sports, knowing that 95% of the time I'd come away feeling 
    empty.
    
    glenn
    

  �  Number of victories over the course of a team's history is meaningless
  �  since it has to do almost totally with longevity.  Same with losses. 
  �  Teams that have been around for a while, such as the Celtics, lead in
  �  wins and are close to the top in losses too.

Also known as the Pete Rose Theory.   Rose, of course, holds the all-time 
major league record for most base hits ... and for outs.

Bob Hunt

    Where was the atso-turff first installed in a football stadium
    
    Bg

Is this a "Who's buried in Grant's Tomb?"

TTom

    Moses Brown Academy, Providence, RI
    
    John

    
    	Name the only two rookie head coaches to win Super Bowls.
    
    	Claybroon

    
     Ninj...   NOT !!!
    
     No, It is not a Grants tomb question...
    
    BG

       George Seifert of the 9ers is one.
                                 Denny

    
    	Seifert and McCafferty are correctamundo.
    
    	Stay tuned for tomorrow's question........

    Cake one...
    
    Super Bowl XII, Pittsburgh wins an exciting 35-31 shoot-out.
    A key moment occurs in the 3rd quarter when the Dallas TE,
    alone in the endzone, drops a sure TD pass.  Name the player.
    
    Harder one...
    Name the three NHL players to have reached 1000 assists...
    

    Jackie Smith

 �   Super Bowl XII, Pittsburgh wins an exciting 35-31 shoot-out.
 �   A key moment occurs in the 3rd quarter when the Dallas TE,
 �   alone in the endzone, drops a sure TD pass.  Name the player.
  
Jackie Smith.  Career tight end with St Louis Cardinals.  Picked up by 
Pokes as extra tight end.   Goat for posterity.
  
 �   Harder one...
 �   Name the three NHL players to have reached 1000 assists...
  
Uh ... Gretzky ???

Bob Hunt  

    
    ISU  ws the first to install carpet on their football field !!
    
    

    re.487
    
    IOU is what I used to pay for my first carpet purchase!!!!
    
    JaKe
    

    JaKe, You're a Maroon, Buddy...
    
    BG

    Little'n'Lame,
    
    They got a coach(although GOD only knows how he'll end up doing), and I
    figure, if Cowher is worth a damn, 3 years and they'll be a legit
    football team.
    
    JaKe
    

    Hockey:
    
    Gretzky.
    Howe.
    Mikita?  
    
    
    JD

    Here we go:
    
    1. Milwaukee    - 21 years
    2. Boston       - 23   "
    3. Philadelphia - 23   "
    4. Phoenix      - 24   "
    5. Los Angeles  - 25   "
    
    I hear Milwaukee has the NBA's best all-time winning %, but can't
    verify that at the moment.  Also, what year did the NBA switch to an 
    82 game season?  The Suns first season was 1968.  They lost the coin 
    toss for Jabbar to Milwaukee that year, but I'm not sure if the Bucks 
    started that season or not.
    
    Mike

    I think the Bucks did start the same year.
    
    Gretzky and Howe (surprise) were right.  No one has the 3rd one yet.
    

    Trottier?  Bossy?  Dioone?
    
    REK

    	The Bucks were in their second year.

    REK's 3rd guess was right...

    
    	Name the team (and the team they were playing against) which
    	holds the record for turnovers in the Super Bowl.
    
    	Claybroon

    re - 1
    
    I'm gonna guess Denver.  Super Bowl XII.  Dallas 27 - Denver 10.
    
    WILDCAT

    I know that Super Bowl V, between the Colts and the Cowboys, had a
    bunch of mistakes.  I'll say the either one of those teams, or the
    Dolphins vs. the Cowboys...
    
    JD

    The Pats?

 Philly against the Raiders in 81....

 mike

    I somehow don't think Clay would have asked the question if the answer
    were the Broncos.  :-)
    
    I suspect Mike may have the correct answer in .502, if not I'll guess
    the Vikings vs. the Raiders.
    
    
    py

    
    	I *did* think about that before entering it Paul, but WILDCAT
    	had it right.  Denver had 8 turnovers against Dallas in the
    	'78 bowl.  Baltimore had 7 against Dallas in '71 and the Pats
    	had 6 against "da bears" in '86.
    
    	Claybroon

      Sheet,  I remember watchin that 78 bowl and I don't remember the
    turnovers.  Of course Morton was at the helm!
    
    	Tim

    
    	Name the player who was on 3 Super Bowl teams but never got
    	to play in any of the 3 games.
    
    	Claybroon

    Must be a backup QB... Earl Morrall?
    

       Steeler backup? Cliff Stoudt?
                                        Denny

    Okay, I did my homework this time and burned my copy of the Phoenix
    Gazette.  These are the actual 1,000 game winners to date, including
    moves, and their winning percentages.  If the Sonics can win 13 more 
    games this season, then they will have reached 1,000 in their 25th year.	
    Of course, that's with 82 games a year, not 48 like the original BAA of 
    1946-7.
    
Team       Wins  Losses Pct
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Celtics    2248  1269  .639
Lakers     2099  1307  .616 Minneapolis, Los Angeles
Bucks      1152  773   .598
Nuggets    1066  947   .530 including ABA
Suns       1001  926   .519
Spurs      1042  971   .518 including ABA
Bulls      1053  1036  .504
Hawks      1679  1664  .502 Tri-Cities, St. Louis, Atlanta
Knicks     1732  1779  .493
Sonics     987   1021  .492
Bullets    1217  1271  .489 Chicago, Baltimore, Washington
Warriors   1702  1805  .485 Philadelphia, Golden State
Pistons    1623  1782  .477 Ft. Wayne, Detroit
Kings      1583  1823  .465 Rochester, Cincinnati, KC, Sacramento

    What!!
    No Syracuse Nats/Philly 76'ers??
    
    MikeL
    

    
    	I give you guys credit......you got the position right.
    
    	Give?
    
    	Claybroon

    Backup Qb fer the Vikes 70's Don't remember his name.
    
    MikeL
    

    
    > Backup Qb fer the Vikes 70's Don't remember his name.
    
    Bob Berry, right?
    
    glenn
    

    I take the blame if you're wrong?
    Whaddya takin' Tpills,Glenn??
    
    8^)
    MikeL
    

    
    >> Backup Qb fer the Vikes 70's Don't remember his name.
    
    > Bob Berry, right?
    
    Now that I think of it, the Vikes had another guy named Bob Lee as
    backup to Tarkenton for a number of years, too.  These guys played for
    years and neither played hardly at all, although I think they both
    ended up on the Falcons...
    
    glenn
    

    
    	Bob Berry it is.  He was on the Vikes in the '74, '75, and '77
    	bowls.
    
    	Claybroon

    
    >>	Bob Berry it is.  He was on the Vikes in the '74, '75, and '77
    >>	bowls.
    
    
    Didn't he coach the Penguins hockey team for a year or two, also???
    Talk about a multi-faceted guy.  Amazing
    
    JaKe
    

    
    	Don't ask me any hockey questions.  The only thing I know
    	is that da Broons ROOL!
    
    	Who has the most career rushing attempts in the Super Bowl?
    
    	Claybroon

    First choice: Larry Csonka
    Second choice: John Riggen
    
    MikeL
    
    
    
    
    

    Franco Harris.  He also has the most yards rushing, I believe.
    
    Lee

    
    	Good job lEe.  Franco Harris is 1st with 101, Riggins is 2cd
    	with 64, and Csonka is 3rd with 54.
    
    	Claybroon

    What do I git for Showin' and Placin'??
    
    MikeL
    

      That was a trick question Clay.  It kinda sounded like 1 SB,  not all
    SB appearences added up.
    
    	Tim

    
    MikeL.,
    
    	You get the same prize as LuFay......you get to buy me beers!
    
    Tim,
    
    	Go back and read it ya knucklehaid!
    
    Claybroon

    In 1950, there were 16 Major League Baseball Teams. 11 of those teams 
    played in 5 cities. Name the cities

    Boston - Braves and Red Sox.
    
    New York - Yankees, Giants, Dodgers
    
    St. Louis - Cards and Browns
    
    Philly - Athletics and Phillies
    
    Chicago - White Sox and Cubs
    
    lEe

    re -.1	correct
    

    Who was the 1st baseball player to make $100,000 a year?  What was the
    year?
    
    In 1980, Hanni Wenzel of Liechtenstein won the women's GS in the
    Olympics.  What was so historic about it?
    
    Ted Williams in 1949
    First gold medal for Liechtenstein
    

 Wasn't it the Babe? I'll guess 1928 just before the crash....

    Since the Winter Olympics started, only four countries have won a gold
    medal in hockey...can you name them?
    
    (answer below)
    
    
    
    You probably got Canada, the US, and what used to be the USSR right off
    the bat...the fourth one is a country one usually doesn't associate
    with hockey.
    
    (last part of the answer below)
    
    
    
    Great Britain won the hockey gold in 1936.

    When was the last time that EVERY major-league team started and
    finished the season with the same manager?????
    
    JaKe
    

      Never?

    Answer divuylged tomorrow.  
    
    JaKe
    

    1951

    Nope.
    
    It was 1942 when there were 16 teams in the league.
    
    JaKe
    

    Who was the only man to pitch a PERFECT game in the World Series
    
    Jack

       Don Larsen 1956?
                                        Denny

    I don't know...  It was a questrion in a game of trivial pursuit I 
    was playing last night.  I answered Don Larsen but the back of the 
    card had been worn off in that area and I was not given credit.
    (It was for PIE) I think it was Don but I'm not 100% sure...  
    Are you ??
    
    BG

 � ... but the back of the  card had been worn off in that area and ...
 
 Full contact Trivial Pursuit ???   Sounds like fun.
 
 Bob Hunt

       I was sure of Larsen, but not the year. I just looked it up it was
    1956.
                                    Denny

    Seriously,
    
     I was very sure and the fact that I didn't get the PIE for the correct 
    answer both pissed me off and cost me the overall game.  I will however
    have revenge the nexted(tm) time the we play.  A deal was struck...  If
    I can prove that it was Larsen I get a free Piece next game !!  ;^)
    
    Thnaks,
    
    BG

     Had to beat Hawk.......
    
    ;^)
    
    Kev
    

    Jack, there is a paperback book that came out a few years back that has
    all the answers to the questions in the original Trivial Pursuit game. 
    It also has a brief explanation of each answer.  You might want to pick
    it up and bring it along for your next match.

re -1

Wouldn't that be cheating?

    It ain't cheating if you memorize the book.
    
    John

    Now Mac,
    Ain't dat suggestion contrary to yo' moderating role? Tsk Tsk, to
    promote dishonesty!! 8^). And I thought you ruggers were beyond
    reproach! well I knew y'all were beyond somethin'.
    
    And Big Game,
    Be careful with that boast of "A free Piece" willya. Good taste,decorum
    in noting and all that rot.
    
    MikeL
    

    I was not suggesting that the book be used to answer a question.  I was
    merely suggesting that it would have been very useful in situations
    such as Jack's where the answer was missing from the card or is under
    question.

       Kinda like having a crossword dictionary because you just KNOW the
    anser should be TGKA and not EMIR like the paper says!
                                      Denny

Sorry Mac, I shudda known that.

=Bob=

    Big Game,
    
    If your local library has a copy of "The Baseball Encyclopedia", that
    book has linescores for all playoff and World Series games ever played.
    Just xerox the page with the 1956 World Series on it, that'll be all
    the proof you need.
    
    
    py

       Being in CXO, you coulda just said John Elway and I'm sure they
    woulda given it to you! 
                                  Denny "/"

    
    I know it was /Don Larson because I watched the game on the TeeVee.
    
    Dickstah
    

    WOW DICKSTAH, watched the game hey, I was -11 then but recall
    it very clearly :-)
    								MairB

    Geeze, you guys is dinosaurs. My dad was 8 when it happened.

    
    Geez, D'dog, your father sprung for you when he was awful young wasn't
    he?  Is that youngster a grampa yet?
    
    Dickstah
    

    Dickstah (and lLE, i suppose)
    
    Is it true that when youze guys were younger, youze were "Men of
    da Woild"???
    
    
    
    What was it like when the woild thought da earf wuz flat and Queen
    Izzabella ruled Spain?
    
    hardy, har, har....
    
    I remain,
    not too far behind,
    Kev
    

    	I was four at the time, but remember betting my trycicle on
    the Yankees.
    
    				/Don

    That must explain MikeC's new wheels!!!!
    
    ;^)
    
    Kev
    

    
    Farl, you ain't implying the world ain't flat are ya?  Those supposed
    pictures from space are nothing but out-takes from "Amazon Women on the
    Moon".
    
    Dickstah, card-carrying member of the Flat Earth Society.
    

    Who won 3 skiiing events in the 88 Winter Olympics?
    
    Name the 3 goalies to win the Vezina trophy and Rookie of the year
    and 1st team all star the same year.
    
    Who beat Henry Armstong for the welterweight title in 1940 despite
    have 65 career losses?
    
    Who became the first MLB player to make $200k and when?
    
    Matti Nykkanen
    
    Brimsek, Tony Esposito, Tom Barrasso
    
    Fritzie Zivic (nice name)
    
    Aaron, '72...

    re Dickstah
    
    
    My dad turns 11 tomorrow. That's 44 in normal people years. Yup, I done
    made him a grandpappy when I was 18. 
             

    What NBA team has the best road record over the last three seasons?
    
    Glen.

    The Blazers.

    From 1960-present, name the 3 states who have sent at least 4 different
    schools to the Final Four.
    

    Indiana - Purdue, Indiana, Notre Dame, Indiana State
    
    is the only one that immediately comes to mind.
    
    John

    Besides Indiana, it's New York (St Bonaventure, NYU, Syracuse and St
    Johns) and North Carolina (Wake Forest, NC State, Duke, UNC-Charlotte)
    and Da Heels.
    
    Lots of states have 3 - Ohio has sent Ohio State, Cincinnati and
    Dayton.  Kansas has sent Kansas, Kansas State and Wichita State. 
    Kentucky has sent Kentucky, Western Kentucky and Louisville.  Illinois
    has sent Loyola of Chicago, Illinois and DePaul.  New Jersey has sent
    Princeton, Rutgers and Seton Hall.  Pennsylvania has sent Penn,
    Villanova and St Joes.
    
    John

    ... and Texas sent the Coogs three times in a row ! :-)

    The tough one was New York, Ninj.
    
    Joe

    
    Name the song from whence these lyrics come:
    
            "I can root for the Yankees from the bleachers, 
             And i don't have to worry 'bout teachers..."
    
    Give yourself a bonus point for naming the original artist.
    
    No need to clog the file if I can't get back in today to confirm the
    correct answer; I'll post the answer tomorrow and maybe come up
    with another music question.
    
    Dickstah
    

RE: .572  Dickstah's Moldy Oldie Dep't

	School is out

			by Gary U.  S. Bonds


MAC2  (long live WODS - OLDIES 103)

    Name the five active pitchers who have 200 or more innings and ERAs of
    less than 3.00
    
    
    
    JaKe
    

    
    Clemens, Gooden, Hershiser, Drabek, and.... Belcher (?)...
    
    glenn
    

    
    Mac the Moldy Oldie Moderator had yesterday's song correct.
    
    This one's an easy one, and keeps in the Sports vein, at least for the
    time being:
    
             "Bases are loaded, and Casey's at bat;
              Time to change the batter."
    
    Give yourself one point for title, bonus point for original performer.
    Answer tomorrow.
    
    Dickstah
    

    Rocky Mountain Way - Joe Walsh

    Rocky Mountain Way.. Joe Walsh....
    
    REK