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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

2030.0. "Albuquerque?" by ELMAGO::AHACHE (So many books, so little time) Fri Jul 31 1992 10:59

    Has anyone heard anything about the Albuquerque plant?  We're
    hearing rumors (as usual) about maybe a closure.  The news station
    is probably stretching the truth again but what the heck has anyone
    there heard anything?
    
    
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2030.1INFACT::BEVISBeware the treacherous Eye of TerrorFri Jul 31 1992 17:153
    say... isn't that where we are assembling the DECpc 400STs?
    
    Don
2030.2Where will we make Alpha systems??BTOVT::SOJDA_LFri Jul 31 1992 18:004
    Isn't that where we are assembling Alpha Machines?
    
    Larry
    
2030.3ANARKY::BREWERJohn Brewer Component Engr. @ABOFri Jul 31 1992 18:326
    re: .1 and .2
    
    Yes, and Yes.
    
    Have heard nothing of the rumor in .0, but these days, who knows??!
    	/john
2030.4The other side...SA1794::BEANWWho wants to grow up?Mon Aug 03 1992 16:264
    I have a mfg. engr. friend under contract to ABO, and one of his curent
    projects is to relocate module operations (bottom line) to Mexico. 
    This would leave ABO a Stage II site.  My assumption is that DEC would
    not spend this kind of money just to close shop.  /wlb
2030.5don't assume common sense in DEC managementSGOUTL::BELDIN_RD-Day: 240 days and countingMon Aug 03 1992 16:346
    Well, lots of us would have gone broke if we'd bet that DEC would do
    something in the most sensible (to us) way.  DEC spent a lot of money
    starting up some products in Puerto Rico that are now going to be made
    in Albuquerque.  
    
    Dick
2030.6more "rumors behind the news"DENVER::DAVISGBGil Davis in AlbuquerqueMon Aug 03 1992 21:235
    Latest rumor I heard about plant closings was that there would be three
    sites leftin the U.S.... Colorado Springs, Albuquerque, and one back
    east (Hudson?).   Other than that, everything is up for grabs (meaning
    potential for closing).  Note recent flurry over Roxbury, MA.
    
2030.7Any rumors about us?JUPITR::KWILSONJust plane crazyMon Aug 03 1992 21:4610
    Of course these are just "rumors" but what did you mean by your comment
    about 3 sites "leftin" the US...did your rumor state those plants would
    be closed or remain open? Being in a fairly large manufacturing plant
    (Shrewsbury) where we are so busy that we have a 7 day work week due
    to much OEM/internal work, none of us "feel" we have anything to worry
    about in the near (6+ months anyway) future. We have lost people in the
    building but not in the manufacturing end...yet?
    
    Keith
    
2030.8STOKES::BURTTue Aug 04 1992 08:4419
    Does anyone realize how much money the US gov't gives a US company to
    move x# of US jobs "off-shore" (Mexico included)?  And also how much
    money a company can save in taxes to work outside of the US?  As well
    as how much a comany can save in overhead outside of the US?  It
    wouldn't surprise me in the least for us to follow trend and move off
    shore.  As for PR closing: We don't have a need for that type of
    internal business unit anymore; it's much cheaper for us to by PCB made
    externally (Why GSO is closing, also?).
    
    Saying that we can't close ABO (?) is living in that dream of it can't
    happen here.  Especially if ABO is an assembly plant, we can get that
    anywheres.  Now, closing HLO would be a different story; granted we
    wouldn't have to worry about EPA regs in Mexico, but to shut down HLO
    and rebuild it in Mexico even with all the tax/money credits could
    possibly be devastating to us.
    
    I won't bet on anything until after this economic world war is over.
    
    Reg.
2030.9RAVEN1::PINIONHard Drinking Calypso PoetTue Aug 04 1992 09:054
    That last line is one to live by here (GSO).  Actually, we're being
    sold (probably).  We just have no idea of win.
    
    Sdp
2030.10Important book on the subjectBOOKS::HAMILTONAll models are false; some are useful - Dr. G. BoxTue Aug 04 1992 10:5715
    re: .8   
    
    For an utterly chilling account of the incentives given
    by the US government to companies moving plants to low wage
    nations, read "America: What Went Wrong?"  
    
    I forget the authors' names but they are Pulitzer Prize
    winning reporters from the Philadelphia Inquirer.
    
    Warning: this book will really frost you off.  If you read
    it, prepare to be extremely angry.  It is exceedingly
    well documented (mostly from IRS and other government
    sources).
    
    Glenn
2030.11CUPMK::DEVLINJe voudrais boire quelque chose.Tue Aug 04 1992 11:474
Glenn -
I read a series of articles based on that book.  Very chilling indeed.

JD
2030.12What is the title??GIAMEM::T_WILSONWed Aug 05 1992 15:487
    
    
    What is the name of that book?
    
    Terry
    
    
2030.13FDCV06::HSCOTTLynn Hanley-ScottMon Aug 10 1992 15:533
    re .12
    The title is listed in .10
    
2030.14ABO and the COBRA...DENVER::DAVISGBGil Davis in AlbuquerqueTue Aug 11 1992 12:4820
    
    Interesting on an Albuquerque position....read the job description.
    (There was one for Laser also...)
    
 12AJ PROJECT MANAGER 1                           WC: 4 (Exempt)
      Title: PROJECT MANAGER 1                  Shift: 1  Travel: 25%  Hours: 40

Recruiter:  Joe Mercadante                      Requisition Number:  H510694
   E-mail:  ELMAGO::JMERCADANTE                               Date:  11-JUN-92
  LOC/DTN:  ABO/D4      552-2172                  Relocation Funds:  Yes

       Job Site:  ABO ALBUQUERQUE, NM
Job Description:
To manage the COBRA transfer from AYO to ABO structure, staff and manage the
COBRA transfer team.  Develop and achieve the COBRA transfer Plan.  Responsible
for cost, benefits and performance of the transfer effort.  Demonstrated project
management skills/track record required.  Must have prior experience setting
and achieving commitments in a mfg enviornment.  Strong interpersonal skills
required. SRI 38
                
2030.15One down, X to goMR4DEC::HARRISCent milliards d'�toilesTue Aug 11 1992 13:267
    Sale of the Greenville, SC, plant was announced this morning, to be
    accomplished "within 30 days."  So in September the 475 Digital
    employees at the Greenville facility will become employees of a
    consortium operated by AMP and another company (whose name I don't
    recall exactly at the moment).
    
    Mac.
2030.16FEATHR::BLUEJAYN45210: 194.5 SMOH, 24.3 SMWJTue Aug 11 1992 15:406
>    consortium operated by AMP and another company (whose name I don't
>    recall exactly at the moment).

It's AMP+Akzo. See the latter replies to 1857.

					- Bluejay Adametz