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1400.1 | Elevation record | CSC32::S_CRONK | Colorado...Ski country | Wed Aug 18 1993 14:56 | 6 |
| To anyone that knows, or a best guess, What is the highest an RC
airplane or glider has ever flown?
Any inf greatly appreciated.
Scott
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1400.2 | He was SOOO high... | GAUSS::REITH | Jim 3D::Reith MLO1-2/c37 223-2021 | Wed Aug 18 1993 15:24 | 4 |
| The AMA handbook has a section on records that would list it. They periodically
run them in Model Aviation. I remember an attempt by Maynard Hill back in the
70s that involved an airforce tracking station and a huge set of laser/radar
guided binoculars. He had to tow a mylar streamer to enhance reflectivity.
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1400.3 | Highest ROG | TINCUP::OSWALD | TANSTAAFL! | Wed Aug 18 1993 16:48 | 6 |
| I don't know what the altitude record, but several of, if not the, highest model
ROG (rise off ground) take-offs are at 13,000+ feet. These were done 2 years ago
off of Pikes Peak (off the road just below the summit)by one Ivan Munnihoff of
PPRC.
Randy
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1400.4 | Maynerd Hill 29,200+ | CSC32::S_CRONK | Colorado...Ski country | Wed Aug 18 1993 18:35 | 17 |
| Called Phil down at Eagles Nest, Phil know's everything, except the
altitude record. He did give me AMA's number. I talked to a guy
at AMA, he said that Maynerd Hill did fly to an altitude of 29,200+.
Had controls and batteries wrapped in heated wire, tracked by a
tracking station, and once he reached altitude, released chaff
so it could be seen. The catch to this, for it to be a record, he had
to bring the plane back in one piece!!!!!
Also talked to Paul Munnihoff at Custom Hobbies, he just happened to be
there when I called. Don't know if it is the same guy, but must be
related with that last name.
Thanks for all the replies, just goes to prove what my Mom always
says...you learn something new everyday.
Scott
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1400.5 | If you can find the article, it was a worthwhile read | GAUSS::REITH | Jim 3D::Reith MLO1-2/c37 223-2021 | Wed Aug 18 1993 19:03 | 9 |
| The article I remember reading about Maynard Hill's attempt(s) stated that he
lost sight of the plane in the binoculars one of the attempts and when the
plane was shown to be heading "off base" without reaquiring the visual to
bring it back, he spun it in. I don't remember how many attempts he had to
make to "bring it back down" but I think there were higher flights that didn't
land safely.
It was a very interestig article that talked about all the things he had to do
to attain the altitude. Neat stuff.
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1400.6 | Highest model | KAY::FISHER | The higher, the fewer | Thu Aug 19 1993 10:25 | 14 |
| > To anyone that knows, or a best guess, What is the highest an RC
> airplane or glider has ever flown?
Just a trivia note. Perhaps the highest flying model was a free flight
glider. On one of the space shuttle missions they threw some model
gliders. There was a lot of expert speculation in Model Builder magazine
at the time over how it would fly in zero gravity. Unfortunately
I don't recall the actual results.
Bye --+--
Kay R. Fisher |
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1400.7 | | TINCUP::OSWALD | TANSTAAFL! | Thu Aug 19 1993 12:08 | 5 |
| Paul Munninghoff (I misspelled it the first time and couldn't find it to correct)
is Ivan's son. He and another member of the club Brad Lovell participated in the
Pikes Peak experiment.
Randy
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1400.8 | and from the model rocket world... | GAUSS::REITH | Jim 3D::Reith MLO1-2/c37 223-2021 | Thu Aug 19 1993 14:39 | 36 |
| Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
From: [email protected] (robert.a.littlefield)
Subject: New Altitude Record
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 13:28:49 GMT
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At the Tripoli LDRS launch yesturday, Frank Kosdon set a new altitude
record of 35,403 feet using one of his own O-10,000 engines in a
minimum diameter aluminum airframe. This breaks the previous record by over
11,000 feet.
According to witnesses, the boost was spectacular. The 2.5 second burn was
smooth fast and loud with over 2000 lbs of thrust. The rocket broke Mach
quickly with a very loud crack and seemed to coast upwards forever.
Unfortunately, ejection failed and the rocket impacted somewhere in a huge
wheat field where it remains unfound. A search for it will resume this morning.
Frank also wrote his name, address, and phone number on the rocket, then
added "Planet Earth" to insure it's return if found.
Frank dosn't make motors as his main business, that's his hobby. His real
job is running his hotdog/hamburger stand at a nude beach near his
home in California.
Other notes: Due to the high winds, Dennis Lamothe (Of Downright Ignorant
fame) did not get to launch his *full* scale, 470 lb. Aerobee. And
John Baulmfaulks full scale Patriot had a repeat of last years failure
when after a perfect launch, a Chute failure sent the heavy model
down quickly. It survived with a broken fin.
And the DOT was there as well, apparently video tapeing the license plates
of the vendors cars. Apparently they are going to enforce the rule of
displaying placards during transportation of the engines next year.
That's all for now, more as I hear it.
Bob Littlefield
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1400.9 | I'll bet :) | WMOIS::WEIER | Wings are just a place to hang Ailerons | Thu Aug 19 1993 15:45 | 17 |
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Re: .6
I don't know how a plane launched from the space shuttle would
fly, but I'll bet I know where it landed!
In a TREE! :)
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1400.10 | What Constitutes a Model? | LHOTSE::DAHL | Customers do not buy architectures | Thu Aug 19 1993 18:24 | 9 |
| RE: <<< Note 1400.8 by GAUSS::REITH "Jim 3D::Reith MLO1-2/c37 223-2021" >>>
> -< and from the model rocket world... >-
What differentiates model rockets from other kinds of rockets?
For that matter, what are the rules for highest RC flight? The Boeing Condor
unmanned areal vehicle (which is radio controlled) has cruised at around 67K or
68K feet (with a piston engine, no less, using self-contained oxygen).
-- Tom
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1400.11 | And in the SCALE category... | GAUSS::REITH | Jim 3D::Reith MLO1-2/c37 223-2021 | Fri Aug 20 1993 13:39 | 4 |
| Gee, DC-X (the single stage to orbit) just did it's initial flight. It's a
1/3rd scale model flown by remote control (how would you set up THAT
failsafe?) and is capable of some significant speed and altitude records.
Does that count? 8^)
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1400.12 | What scale - really? | KAY::FISHER | The higher, the fewer | Fri Aug 20 1993 14:42 | 17 |
| > <<< Note 1400.8 by GAUSS::REITH "Jim 3D::Reith MLO1-2/c37 223-2021" >>>
> -< and from the model rocket world... >-
...
>Other notes: Due to the high winds, Dennis Lamothe (Of Downright Ignorant
>fame) did not get to launch his *full* scale, 470 lb. Aerobee. And
>John Baulmfaulks full scale Patriot had a repeat of last years failure
Full!!!!
Really?
Bye --+--
Kay R. Fisher |
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1400.13 | I wonder if they're working on a SCUD model next? | GAUSS::REITH | Jim 3D::Reith MLO1-2/c37 223-2021 | Fri Aug 20 1993 14:48 | 5 |
| Yep, full scale. 20+ feet tall with a 20" diameter. MODEL rockets heh, heh...
The altitude record set mentioned something about 2000 pounds of thrust for
2.5 seconds! Stated that you could hear the crack as it went supersonic. And
people laughed when I wanted to put a pulse jet in a Gremlin! 8^)
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1400.14 | | N25480::FRIEDRICHS | APACHE::FRIEDRICHS | Fri Aug 20 1993 18:16 | 7 |
| Fail-safe for the DC-X is easy....
If fail-safe
then **BOOM**
The only way the range safety officer would have it, I would imagine..
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1400.15 | AAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!! | BAHTAT::EATON_N | I w'daft t'build castle in't swamp | Mon Aug 23 1993 08:05 | 4 |
| > His real job is running his hotdog/hamburger stand at a nude beach
> near his home in California.
Brave guy! 8^)
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