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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
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Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
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1255.0. "Kites make excellent glider launchers on windy days." by HPSRAD::AJAI () Mon Nov 12 1990 10:38

    One more plea to stay the execution order, and perhaps revoke it
    unconditionally :-).
    
    I used to build and fly kites since I was 3+, and like my 2 hour
    marathon flying session with the FS, there was a time when I used to be
    soo hung up on kite flying that I used to do it in moonlight!
    
    Muuuch later, (10+ yrs), while I was pursuing aeromodelling in
    parallel, I designed a contraption that would release paper planes,
    pieces of paper, what-have-you. To further digress, much to Alton's
    consternation :-), what I did was to build upon a scheme given in an
    old issue of the Scientific American (The Amateur Scientist column?).
    
    In that article, the author had presented a scheme wherby a release was
    fixed to the string near the kite, and the release held the object to
    be dropped from a height. You proceeded to fly the kite to the desired
    height of release, then sent up a paper cone along the string that
    would strike the mechanism and cause it to trip, releasing the object.
    
    While my elder brother tried this approach when I was a toddler (and I
    had observed it), I did not bother trying it myself, until a decade
    later when I had figured out a _much_ better scheme. I modified the
    design so that the contraption could freely ride between two
    pencils/dowels fixed about 3 feet apart on the string with clove
    hitches. You flew the kite up to load bearing altitude, then fixed the
    dowels and slung the contraption in between the sticks. Then payed out
    the string so the object+mechanism rose with the kit to release
    altitude.
    
    Upon stabilising at release altitude, you merely jerked the string
    hard. Due to inertia of the device, it would remain stationary wrt
    earth, while the string with the dowels slide through, until the upper
    dowel hit the mechanism and tripped it, releasing the object!!!!
    The lower dowel served merely to prevent mechanism from sliding back as
    you payed out the string.
    
    The funny thing is, I was always captivated by the idea of using a kite
    to release object (mainly planes and parachutes) from a height, and
    when it all became clear to me as to how to do it - and this was verry
    late in the evening - it was as though I was on fire! I quickly set
    about soldering the mechanism to-gether from bicycle spokes and tinned
    wire.
    
    By the time I got done, the moon had come up. I got my kite flying from
    the terrace of my home in New Delhi, and put on the contraption after
    hitching the pencils in place. I used a strip of paper with a hole
    punched in one end as my object. Payed out the string, and since the
    moon was the only source of light, got the contraption high enough so
    the moon was right behind it, "illuminating" it.
    
    Then came the moment of reckoning. I jerked the string, and sure
    enough, the piece of paper released and fluttered down. I was
    triumphant. I was jubiliant. My idea had worked. Besides, I could
    control the exact instant of release since the jerk determined relese
    time!!! Only my RC soloing moment comes close in terms of euphoria.
    
    In the months that followed, I released all sorts of things, including
    leaves! Folded paper gliders were a favourite, and I had one that flew
    over 1/2 a mile!
    
    A few years later, I entered it for an invention talent contest in my
    state, and won the 2nd prize! Yeah, man, I wuz on a roll - It got me
    Rs. 300, which in those days was approx equivalent to $45.
    
    Anyhoo, all this gives  me an idea. Well Alton, here is a good reason
    for giving this note a permanent home - let us put this under GLIDER
    LAUNCHING TECHNIQUES! In fact, I am going to try this next year. It
    might be even better than aero towing.
    
    I'll have to stitch muh'self a parafoil first. Boy! One more thing to
    do during winter...
    
    ajai
    
    
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1255.1Dixie messagersZENDIA::REITHJim Reith DTN 226-6102 - LTN2-1/F02Mon Nov 12 1990 10:479
    Re: .11
    
    I did the same thing using dixie cups travelling up the string. The big 
    problem is that the release is already down wind. Lots of fun on a "kite 
    string" budget ;^)
    
    Al,
       This thread is also being covered in Physics but it is getting weighted 
    down by defining the problem/question.
1255.2Altitude saves the day!HPSRAD::AJAIMon Nov 12 1990 12:0117
    re -.1,
    
    Jim,
    
    Yeah, your dixie cup=paper cone that I referred to.
    
    Downwind release is no problem _provided_ you have altitude to burn to
    get back up wind. Also, since the kite flies higher with the string
    nearer vertical [read: plane releases closer to you], the launch point
    "corrects" itself [if not completely] in the right direction with
    increase in prevailing wind speed.
    
    If only I can find some volunteers :-) What the heck, I might as well
    build that Sophistaced Lady that I won at the CRRC raffle 2 yrs ago...
    
    ajai
    
1255.3Third world missile launching technologyHPSRAD::AJAIMon Dec 03 1990 16:1673
               <-----------------    6"  ---->    dimensions are approximate
                          <------    4"  ---->    and not critical

               A          B                  C

  This end     0          0                  0 <-- Kite thread through these
  towards      |          |                  |     loops
  ground       |          +------------------+
               |          |                  |
               +----------0------------------0-+
                        X |                  | |
                          |                  | |
                          |                  | |
                        Y |                  | |
      Spoke thread--->  --0------------------0-+
      this end 
      gives added
      friction preventing
      accidental opening.


    All loops  in  wire  shown  as  "0",  which  should  be  made
    PERPENDICULAR to drawing.

    Make loops A, B, C "open", i.e. coil the wire around a former
    -  as  though forming a spring with just one turn, and with a
    gap  (similar  to  a loosely wound spring). The idea is to be
    able  to  insert  the  kite string into loop by making string
    perpendicular  to  drawing/device,  and  sliding through said
    opening  -  SO  YOU  DON'T  HAVE  TO  CUT THE STRING to affix
    device.

    By bending the XY member so it is at an angle to the drawing,
    (with  X  in  plane  of drawing) and making it out of thinner
    guage  piano  wire,  you  can  add  friction  to prevent easy
    opening.  The location of the threaded end of spoke indicated
    in  drawing  also  serves  identical  purpose. You could bend
    squiggles  into  the  end  of  the  wire  to achieve the same
    purpose as spoke threads.

    Fly kite to load bearing altitude before affixing device.

    Either end A or C may be towards the kite. However, depending
    on  whether the object is a deadweight (parachute) /floats in
    the  wind  (glider),  using it with end C/(or A) towards kite
    will  allow *IMMEDIATE* release upon device _barely_ opening.
    IF  you  are  not'  fussy  about instanteneous response (i.e.
    willing  to jerk string more than once), then this is a minor
    detail.

    Remember that    this    device   is   hooked   between   two
    dowels/pencils  held  2~20 times AC apart on the kite string.
    You tie these on with clove hitches, so you don't mess up the
    string   permanently/painfully.   2AC  separation  gives  you
    release  with  a  minor  jerk,  while 20AC or more separation
    between  the dowels will need a mega jerk - sometimes even to
    the  extent of having to pay out the string, stopping it, and
    _subsequently_ jerking, to make the device "climb" the 20AC.

    So why do all this? Well, as you fly your kite out to payload
    launch altitude, you might inadvertently jerk the string, and
    release  the  object  prematurely.  You  can  avoid  this  by
    increasing  the  inter-dowel  distance  (which is akin to the
    dead band of a servo, if you will).

    Practice with a dummy before trying to use the real thing for
    the payload. A strip of paper /leaf with a hole punched in it
    is a good start.

    And let me know how things work out.

    ajai