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Conference vmszoo::rc

Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

227.0. "Balancing the PT20" by DARTH::GAROZZO () Fri Jul 24 1987 14:41

    
    I JUST FINISHED A GREAT PLANES PT20. WHEN I BALANCED IT IT WAS QUITE
    TAIL HEAVY AND HAD TO PUT WEIGHT INTO THE TANK COMPARTMENT. HAS
    ANYONE ELSE HAD TO DO THIS?
    
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227.1SPKALI::THOMASFri Jul 24 1987 15:027
    I wouldn't think that ship would come out tail heavy. Tell us,
    what your servo installation looks like? Where are the servos,
    battery and receiver. Also, where are you balancing the ship from
    IE, Dimension from the leading edge of the wing. Any other 
    specifics that you can give may help/
    
    						Tom
227.2PT BALANCE PART IIDARTH::GAROZZOFri Jul 24 1987 15:237
    I FOLLOWED THE DIRECTIONS TO A T. THE BATTERY IS IN BACK OF THE
    "F2" WALL, FOLLOWED BY FUTABA S38 SERVO'S, THEN THE RECEIVER. ALL
    NICE AND CLOSE TOGETHER. THE PLANS CALL FOR TAKING THE MAIN LOWER
    WING SPAR AND MEASURING BACK 1/2 INCH. THATS THE BALANCE POINT.
    IT DID SEEM STRANGE TO ME ALSO THAT IT NEEDED WEIGHT. I PUT THE
    WEIGHT UNDER THE HATCH BUT SINCE HAVE LEARNED THERE ARE PROP WASHER
    WEIGHTS THAT CAN BE USED. IT GOES TOMORROW!
227.3I have one also.GOLD::GALLANTMon Jul 27 1987 13:1413
    
    		I also built a PT-20 but had just the opposite balance
    	problem. I first built it with the battery under the fuel tank
    	and used thier wooden servo tray. just beyond the servo tray
    	I installed the radio. I turned out to be nose heavy. I then
    	moved the batteries to just aft of the servo tray and the radio
    	just aft of that. That fixed my problems. From what you said
    	about the point at which you are trying to balance it I would
    	say you have the correct spot. What size engine are you using?
    	Explain a little beter where the batteries are, and radio.
    
    					Michael Gallant
    
227.4BALANCE IIIDARTH::GAROZZOMon Jul 27 1987 15:186
    I AM USING A ENYA 15 ENGINE. VERY LIGHT. THE BATTERY IS JUST IN
    BACK OF THE F2 WALL NOT UNDER THE GAS TANK. THEN THE SUPPLIED SERVO
    TRAY, THEN RX. THE ONLY OTHER THING I COULD THINK OF IS I PUT SOME
    ICE POP STICKS ABD GLUED SOME TO FUSALAGE SIDES TO STRENGTHEN THEM.
    I THINK ITS MOSTLY A LIGHT ENGINE AND BATTERY TO REAR OF F2 FIRE
    WALL. WHAT DO YOU THINK AND THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR RESPONDING.
227.5Its the engineBZERKR::DUFRESNEVAX Killer - You make 'em, I break 'emMon Jul 27 1987 23:1216
    The engine is problem the source of the problem.
    
    I put a FOX 19 in mine and it can out on the money (although i've
    been told it tends to be tail heavy when flying at low revs).
    
    RCM review the model last month and complained about having to locate
    the battery pack behind the servo tray. They used a K&B sporter
    20. I undertand that engine is heavy. (form a previous review in
    RCM).
    
    PUt some lead in the nose (cave out the balsa in the engine section)
    
    Warning: This plane glides real good..
    
    md
    
227.6SPKALI::THOMASTue Jul 28 1987 08:0312
    
    	Before you go adding any weight put the battery under the fuel
    tank. Then if that isn't enough put the RX in front of the servos.
    Also add a spinner and prop to the engine prior to balancing.
    Do everything you can to use the existing weight to balance the
    plane before you add any weight. If after this it's still tail
    heavy then add a propnut weight.
    
    	straight + light + HP = Good Flying Planes
    
    
    						Tom
227.7Check CG while buildingLEDS::LEWISTue Jul 28 1987 11:468
    
    	Also a tip for the future... it sounds like you did the servo
    and battery installation before checking the CG - saves time and
    grief if you check the CG from time to time while building - you
    might have put the battery farther forward for example, or sanded
    more at the rear of the plane.
    
    Bill
227.8I agree with Tom in .6GOLD::GALLANTTue Jul 28 1987 13:468
    
    	With respect to .6, Tom is telling it straight. Put the batteries
    	under the fuel tank and move the radio up to the servo tray
    	at least before adding even a prop nut. Only add the prop nut
    	if it still doesnt balance.
    
    				Michael Gallant