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| 156.1 | See you | ULYSSE::BUXTON_M | A black belt in Kno Kan Doo | Wed Apr 30 1997 17:06 | 6 |
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And I wont be there, but I will be for the practise session on
Thursday :-)
Anyone else going, I will be at St Devott (sp)
Mark.
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| 156.2 | I'll be there | CHEFS::JACKSON_W | | Wed Apr 30 1997 18:59 | 5 |
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I'll be there for Monaco, at Casino Square.
Wendy.
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| 156.3 | ready steady go | VYGER::PATRICKD | | Thu May 01 1997 01:32 | 6 |
| I'll be there at the start/finish line.
the starter
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| 156.4 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Thu May 01 1997 14:47 | 3 |
| re .1
Mark, I'll probably see you at the Ste Devote chicane stand. 7:00 am
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| 156.5 | | ESSB::JMORRISSEY | | Thu May 08 1997 14:56 | 19 |
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Johnny Herbert in a Sauber was fastest after second practice
for Sunday's Monaco Grand Prix.
Herbert was just ahead of the Ferrari of Michael Schumacher
with world championship leader Jacques Viulleneuve third in
a Williams
The Jordans of Giancarlo Fisichella and Ralf Schumacher
were 4th and 8th with Eddie Irvine 12th in the second
Ferrari.
(from Aertel)
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| 156.6 | from last.. | CHEFS::CZERESM | | Thu May 08 1997 15:16 | 17 |
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Following on from last.
Fretzen had a big slide into the barriers this morning
according to Reuters, Damon was 9th "apparently happy
with his set up and feeling good about possibly going
a bit quicker!!". The weather reports for the coming days
also say it could be unpredictable which hopefully
should throw a spanner into the works,
could be an interesting few days,
cheers
mark.
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| 156.7 | times | ESSB::JMORRISSEY | | Thu May 08 1997 17:17 | 37 |
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THURSDAY'S OPENING PRACTICE TIMES
1 J Herbert (GB) Sauber 1:21.188
2 M Schumacher (Ger) Ferrari 1:21.330
3 J Villeneuve (Can) Williams 1:21.445
4 G Fisichella (Ita) Jordan 1:21.463
5 G Berger (Aut) Benetton 1:21.573
6 M Hakkinen (Fin) McLaren 1:21.675
7 H-H Frentzen (Ger) Williams 1:21.885
8 R Schumacher (Ger) Jordan 1:21.939
9 D Hill (GB) Arrows 1:21.962
10 J Alesi (Fra) Benetton 1:22.010
11 D Coulthard (GB) McLaren 1:22.020
12 E Irvine (NI) Ferrari 1:22.072
John.
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| 156.8 | | WOTVAX::STONEG | Magician Among the Spirits......... | Fri May 09 1997 10:09 | 98 |
| Practice report from Gale Force....
Formula 1: Monaco Grand Prix
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Johnny holds off Michael
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[Thu May- 8 14h15 CET]
A thrilling first free practice session for the Monaco Grand
Prix left Johnny Herbert with the fastest time follwed by
Michael Schumacher and Jacques Villeneuve. Heinz Harold was
last seen track side collecting the pieces of his car.
The first half of the session started at 11am in a bright
sunny Monaco first on track were the two Jordans of Ralph
and Fisichella, as usually just about everyone came out in
the first few minutes then returned straight back into the
pits. Nakano was the first driver to run a few laps and
rapidly brought his time down from 1m 42.087s to 1m 33.616s.
Jean Alesi was the next serious lapper bring the fastest
time down into the 1m 26s region. Then came Villeneuve who
dropped it to 1m 24.656s.
The rest of this one hour session saw Frentzen as the man
to beat with both Villeneuve and Michael always seeming to
get into trafffic on their fast laps. At the end HH was 1m
23.187s, with Michael at +0.383s and Hakkinen at +0.448s
followed by Villeneuve, Barrichello (brilliant) and Irvine.
The second half of the two hour session began at 13h00 with
Michael out first but once again being foiled by heavy
traffic. Ten minutes in to the session Hakkinen took the
fastest time to 1m 23.124s (-0.063s) despite being at +0.2s
in the chicane. A few minutes later Katayama was seen
rolling to a stop inside the tunnel with mechanical
problems. HH then broke the time down twice more to 1m
22.417s just as the red flags came out. No drama - its was
just to remove Katayama's car which was in a dangerous
position. The current standing were: Frentzen, Hakkinen,
Panis, Michael, Barrichello, Villeneuve, Irvine, Alesi,
Coulthard, Berger, Fisichella and Hill.
When the track opened again it was Ralph that put the fire
into everyone he knocked nearly half a second off HH with a
magnificent 1m 21.939s (-0.478). Then the flood gates
opened at HH took the time down by -0.006s, then
Villeneuve by -0.004s, then Frentzen by -0.042s and Michael
by -0.136s (he was at -0.641s at the chicance but then came
up behind Villeneuve at the pool).
With 10 minutes to go Hill had moved to 6th and Herbert
had taken the fastest time from Michael by -0.142s, his 1m
21.188s was the fastest of the day. The shunt of the day
came 7 minutes before the end when HH slide at the corner
just after Rascasse (start of the start straight) and
slammed into the barriers. He destroyed his car but was
uninjured.
Final standing: Herbert, Michael, Villeneuve, Fisichella,
Berger, Hakkinen, Frentzen, Ralph, Hill, Alesi.
Session: 1st Free Practice
Track Times:
Pos Driver Team Lap Time
1 J.Herbert Sauber 1m 21.188s
2 M.Schumacher Ferrari 1m 21.330s
3 J.Villeneuve Williams 1m 21.445s
4 G.Fisichella Jordan 1m 21.463s
5 G.Berger Benetton 1m 21.573s
6 M.Hakkinen McLaren 1m 21.675s
7 H.Frentzen Williams 1m 21.885s
8 R.Schumacher Jordan 1m 21.939s
9 D.Hill Arrows 1m 21.962s
10 J.Alesi Benetton 1m 22.010s
11 D.Coulthard McLaren 1m 22.020s
12 E.Irvine Ferrari 1m 22.072s
13 R.Barrichello Stewart 1m 22.370s
14 N.Larini Sauber 1m 22.383s
15 P.Diniz Arrows 1m 22.622s
16 J.Verstappen Tyrrell 1m 23.056s
17 O.Panis Prost 1m 23.096s
18 M.Salo Tyrrell 1m 23.483s
19 J.Magnussen Stewart 1m 23.810s
20 J.Trulli Minardi 1m 25.178s
21 S.Nakano Prost 1m 25.350s
---- 107% ---- 1m 26.871s
22 U.Katayama Minardi 1m 29.353s
All information is unofficial
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GALE FORCE F1 - the fastest results service on the Internet.
See our web page at http://www.monaco.mc/f1/
Please send your comments to [email protected]
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| 156.9 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Fri May 09 1997 12:32 | 15 |
| .6� Fretzen had a big slide into the barriers this morning
.6� according to Reuters
It was actually at the end of the afternoon session. On a fast lap HH
slightly hit the apex rails at the Antony Noghes corner. That immediately
sent the car into the outside rails. I believe HH could have lifted off
to avoid contact. The incar camera pictures showed the car sliding
gently towards the rail, HH did apply opposite lock but this did not
work.
The result was some damage on the left side of the car. Nothing too
serious.
HH was fastest during the morning session. So watch him tomorrow
afternoon.
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| 156.10 | Prost GP and Mr Honda | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Fri May 09 1997 12:36 | 8 |
| As expected Prost is having some talks with Mr Honda Jr, the boss of
Mugen. Mugen supports Shinji Nakano while Prost would like to have a
real driver in the the 2nd car to support Olivier Panis in the 1st car.
Prost is ready to have Emmanuel Collard (with support from Elf) jump in
the 2nd car, pending Mr Honda's approval.
Prost is also looking at giving a test driver seat to Gianni Morbidelli.
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| 156.11 | Did you make it | ULYSSE::BUXTON_M | A black belt in Kno Kan Doo | Fri May 09 1997 13:25 | 9 |
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Heh Patrick,
Where were you yesterday ? I didnt see you,
Mark.
PS: Those Stewarts make a thundering ROAR going up to Casino !
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| 156.12 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Fri May 09 1997 13:50 | 17 |
| .11� Heh Patrick,
.11�
.11� Where were you yesterday ? I didnt see you,
Hello Mark,
Had to change my plans. So watched the whole thing on TV (thank god,
Canal Satellite SuperSignal did a good job).
Good to hear that the Ford V10 does well.
Who were the master brakers (for Ste Devote) this year ? Is Olivier
Panis still the King of late brakers ?
How is the new Swimming Pool esse?
Looks like the track was pretty cold yesterday morning.
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| 156.13 | perhaps next year | ULYSSE::BUXTON_M | A black belt in Kno Kan Doo | Fri May 09 1997 14:50 | 13 |
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Late brakers appeared to be Panis and M. Schumacher, cant remember who
it was that was a "forget to braker", nice run off neatly missing the
tyres, an impressive spin and back onto the track. This was not nearly
as exciting as the Porche Supercup driver who planted his car into the
arnco, made a very nasty mess of the front end !
Couldnt see the new picine S from where I was
Track temp was 18 degrees, air temp was 16.5
Mark.
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| 156.14 | | CHEFS::LINCOLN_J | | Mon May 12 1997 11:52 | 17 |
| A long time since Williams made such a bad error of
judgement. Even on wet tyres the cars were no good.
Ferraris late change to wet settings was pretty obvious
to all and paid off handsomely. It seemed to me that
Schumacher(M) only raced for half a dozen laps and then
eased off (13 second lead in two laps!).
Serious brain fade in McLaren cockpits. I think Coulthard
lost it diving inside of Villeneuve out of the tunnel when
he only had to be a tiny bit patient, and Hakkinen came up
to the chicane at such a rate that he was never ever going
to get around it anyway.
Great day for Stewart but for the most part the race was
about as dull as the weather.
-John
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| 156.15 | Not dull for me! | WOTVAX::lzodhcp-182-48-148.lzo.dec.com::hiltong | [email protected] | Mon May 12 1997 12:24 | 2 |
| I thought the race was far from dull, there was so many spills,
people runnng wide etc etc, funniest race I've seen for ages!
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| 156.16 | questions | ANNECY::HOTCHKISS | | Mon May 12 1997 12:26 | 3 |
| What happened to Hill?His own fault or was he taken out?
Is there any limit to the wing area or placement btw?Are the winglets
on the Tyrell actually any good?Questions,questions..
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| 156.17 | | IRNBRU::61549::Spike | Welcome to the Rimmer Experience | Mon May 12 1997 14:23 | 14 |
| Re: Hill
According to CEEFAX one of the Benettons lost it on the first lap
which caused Irvine to brake very suddenly and Hill hit the back of
Irvine damaging a wheel.
I bet Frank Williams is not a happy man at the moment. His drivers and
team are far from infallable this year. He has a real battle on his
hands with the Ferraris this year and a couple more cock ups could see
some heads rolling.
Rgds, Steve.
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| 156.18 | | ESSB::JMORRISSEY | | Mon May 12 1997 15:40 | 18 |
| From Atlas F1
Schumacher used the T-car which is set-up for a wet weather race.
Schumacher: "Everything went the right way today. It was perfect. I
used the right tyres and team chose the right strategy. After my good
start it was an easy race for me. In the short time before the start I
decided to switch cars, which was the right choice. Realistically, I
did not think I could win; I thought second place was possible, but in
the wet anything can happen. On lap 53 I locked the front wheels and
although I might have got round the corner, I decided not to risk it
and took the escape road. We are leading both championships but there
are still 12 races to go."
John.
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| 156.19 | Hill | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Mon May 12 1997 17:52 | 8 |
| .17� According to CEEFAX one of the Benettons lost it on the first lap
.17� which caused Irvine to brake very suddenly and Hill hit the back of
.17� Irvine damaging a wheel.
I saw (on TV) Hill being hit by a Tyrrell on the short straight
following the harbour chicane and leading to the Bureau de Tabac
corner. Hill's front left wheel was damaged and was pointing to the
right, which sent the car into the rail.
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| 156.20 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Mon May 12 1997 17:56 | 4 |
| Having lived in the area for 8 years I was very surprised to hear some
teams start with dry setups. The East wind on the Riviera means rain
and rain and rain ... no exception. At 13:30 it was clear that the wind
was blowing from the east ...
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| 156.21 | | EVTSG8::STURT | Totally wired | Mon May 12 1997 22:25 | 23 |
| Ferrari
Just about perfect. Nice to see the master at work. If rain really is a
great equalizer, then all arguments about who is faster than whom can
fall silent now.
Williams
Only Williams can shoot themselves in the foot that way.
Mclaren
See Williams. Post-race interviews left me with the impression that the
bungled tyre choice was very much a management, rather than a driver
decision.
Benetton
Who?
Jordan
Hothead Ralf needs to take some lessons from big brother. Fiziko did
well under difficult conditions.
I have enjoyed every race so far this season!
Edward.
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| 156.22 | | COMICS::SHELLEY | Lead, follow, or get out the way | Tue May 13 1997 09:11 | 14 |
| Regarding the Schumacher brothers.
I wish the commentators would get their act together with the names.
They seem to forever be saying
"Schmacher, Michael Schumcher"
"Schmacher, er Ralf"
Why not refer to them simply as "Ralf" or "Michael".
Anybody with the smallest F1 knowledge will know who they are refering
to.
Royston
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| 156.23 | | CHEFS::KERRELLD | To infinity and beyond... | Tue May 13 1997 09:40 | 14 |
| re.21:
> Just about perfect. Nice to see the master at work. If rain really is a
> great equalizer, then all arguments about who is faster than whom can
> fall silent now.
Schumacher had an advantage due to being in front - clear vision makes
quite a difference. Secondly, the slick shod tyred cars got in the way of
the rest the field. Thirdly, the runners behind Schumacher were very close
to his pace in lesser equipment. Oh, and 'just about perfect' hardly
describes the fishtailing around Schumacher did, and didn't he go off at
one corner?
Dave.
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| 156.24 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Tue May 13 1997 11:38 | 13 |
| .23� Oh, and 'just about perfect' hardly
.23�describes the fishtailing around Schumacher did, and didn't he go off
.23�at one corner?
Given the track conditions and the car setup (I'm sure it was not set
for full rain ie with soft springs/dampers and no anti-roll) Michael
did a brilliant job. His only light mistake at Ste Devote can easily be
balanced by a 2-hour masterful drive at every inch of this incredible
circuit.
In terms of setup: the Jordans were set perfectly and proved very
stable under powerful acceleration and hard braking. I thought
Barrichello's Stewart GP car was also doing very well.
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| 156.25 | | IRNBRU::61549::Spike | Welcome to the Rimmer Experience | Tue May 13 1997 11:44 | 7 |
| > Given the track conditions and the car setup (I'm sure it was not set
> for full rain ie with soft springs/dampers and no anti-roll) Michael
I read that Schu was in the spare car which had been fully set up for wet
weather. Can anyone confirm this?
rgds, Steve.
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| 156.26 | | CTHU22::M_MORIN | Mario Morin, Hull CSC - Canada | Tue May 13 1997 15:10 | 6 |
| Re: Schum in the backup car setup for wet.
Yes, I can confirm. Heard it officially from our radio
network F1 commentator. That's good planning if you ask me.
/Mario
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| 156.27 | | CHEFS::LINCOLN_J | | Tue May 13 1997 17:55 | 17 |
| As reported by TopGear -
"Schumacher chose the 'wet' car while Williams started on slick
tyres, advised by a weather expert, now presumably floating in the
harbour, who assured the team the rain would hold off."
The TV Video just shows Hill running into the back of Irvine
who had stopped to avoid one of the Benetton cars which
had shortcut the chicane. This was a pity since this was the
best chance he's likely to get for a good place this season.
-John
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| 156.28 | Catching up.... | IOSG::DUTT | Nigel Dutt | Mon May 19 1997 13:16 | 12 |
| I just got back from a couple of weeks in the USA and spent Saturday
afternoon watching my tape of the GP (there was only a boring old
football match on the box!!!). I enjoyed seeing the Schu "expressing
his talents" and Barichello's second place. The first time I ever saw
him was in the Opel Lotus support race to the very wet 1988 British GP,
and he beat the rest by so much that we wondered if he was running an
illegal car.
I still get the feeling that we haven't yet found out how the various
teams are really stacked up against each other this year. Or maybe
McLaren and Benetton really have become mid-field racers, overtaken by
Jordan and Prost and at least matched by Stewart.
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