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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

1334.0. "salvage?" by VLNVAX::FRENIERE () Tue Sep 05 1989 11:37

    Can some one tell us the basic rules, laws, regulations, whatever,
    regarding salvaging of hulls.
    
    What prompts this is my observing an older plywood sailboat
    aparently abandoned for some two months now. Some one aparently
    dragged it ashore and turned it over. High tide gets at it and
    it is filling inside with seaweed. First good storm & high tide
    will smash it.  It is about 14 ft long, centerboarder, missing
    rudder and mast. It is readily visible from both water and from
    a car and is in a public area.
    
    I happen to have a mast and sails of appropriate size and it
    looks reasonably repairable. Would be fun to use near home here
    on local lakes......  keep thinking, "if that is here next week,
    I think I'll take it home.....", then advertise it's being found
    for a few days in the local paper (not my local !!)
    
    Any thoughts on the matter ????
    Don

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1334.1MSCSSE::BERENSAlan BerensTue Sep 05 1989 17:336
There is an extensive discussion of this in Note 180 in the powerboats 
notesfile (VICKI::BOATS). Just because the boat you describe appears to be 
abandoned doesn't mean you can claim it. Taking it might be legally theft. I'd
suggest contacting the local police and the Coast Guard before doing anything
else. 

1334.2raise the nonameSTARCH::HAGERMANFlames to /dev/nullMon Aug 22 1994 14:0042
    I visited my brother-in-law yesterday; he 's a fisherman in Chatham. A
    couple of weeks ago the boat he was on sank, and was written off by the
    insurance company as a total loss. Here's the info, for your
    entertainment.
    
    The boat is a fiberglass fishing boat about 45' long, with a small
    cabin in the bow and a big cockpit in the back for handling the nets.
    Normally they can get about 12000 pounds of fish in the hold, but on
    this particular trip it was a day run and they had about 9000 pounds
    in the cockpit. The weather was a bit heavy, and some water was coming
    over the side and wasn't draining because the scuppers were clogged
    with fish. A big wave came over the side, they rolled enough for the
    fish to slide off the upper working area of the cockpit onto the deck
    on the low side, which in combination with the water they had already
    shipped caused the boat to roll all the way over and sink almost
    instantly. The four crew luckily weren't caught in any of the equipment
    and the lifeboat worked just fine; they were picked up by the Coast
    Guard 45 minutes later.
    
    The boat sank in about 210 feet of water. The insurance policy was for
    $110,000 and the money went for a new boat. Apparently the estimate of
    the value of the boat if it were brought up would be around $40,000
    allowing for ruined and lost equipment. Because of the depth of the
    water, it would cost about $40,000 just to go down and take a brief
    look at it, not even allowing for any attempt at salvage. Therefore, it
    was written off. The owner is hoping to grapple for some of the
    nets--apparently he had 96 nets on board (each being, what, maybe 200
    feet long?).
    
    What is interesting to me is the expectation that so much stuff gets
    ruined so quickly. The engine has been down there for two weeks--would
    it really be totally wasted this quickly? And why can't they send down
    one of those cool little robot submarines and hook up a line somewhere?
    At this depth wouldn't the density of the water make a fiberglass boat
    almost bouyant? If they could get it up to normal dive depth they could
    send somebody down and hook up proper slings or whatever to get the
    boat back up--would this really be that expensive?
    
    I guess deep-water salvage is a lot more complicated than they let on
    on the National Geographic "raise the Titanic"-type TV shows...
    
    Doug.
1334.3Trawling for $$$MILKWY::WAGNERScottTue Aug 23 1994 13:4113
    
    	If he has the approximate location, a few hooks and some line, why
    not try dragging back and forth? Nets should snag on anything, right?
    Just hope the hook doesn't grab the whole boat!
    
    	As far as divers, submersibles, etc., $110K probably would not last
    long. The boating we do for free is mighty `spensive for a pro! Plus,
    if you happen to get anything really good, I betcha the state will tax
    you a sizeable chunk.
    
    	Fun to muse on, tho.
    
    	Keelscrubber Scott