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    The 150' lightship "Nantucket" is tied up at Maine Wharf on Commercial
    St. in Portland, Maine.  Decommissioned by the Coast Guard in 1975,
    this vessel is maintained by volunteers and is open to the public
    on Saturdays and Sundays from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. and by
    appointment during the week for school groups, scouts, etc.
    
    Admission is $3 for adults and $1.50 for children and seniors. 
    Maximum charge for family is $7.
    
    For more information, contact Nantucket Lightship Preservation, Inc.,
    Suite M, 465 Congress Street, Portland ME 04101 or call (207) 775-1983. 

    Dennis,
    
    steamships and submarines!  Philadelphia's Penn's Landing will provide
    some of both.
    
    A WWII sub is tied up at the dock, with visitors going into all
    those incredibly small spaces to sense what limited room these mariners
    had to operate in.  IT looks like it is right our of a movie.
    
    But the piece de resistance is the USS Olympia, Admiral Dewey's
    flag ship cruiser at Manila Bay.  The ship was saved from the scrap
    heap and refurbished to look like it came down the ways yesterday.
    This is one of those ships with gunports cut into the side of the
    hull - a transitional vessel between the man-of-war type with cannon
    and the 20th century style with turrets.  Part of the Great White
    Fleet that circled the globe during the T. Roosevelt administration.
    
    Both are worth an afternoon..
    
    Ron
    to it.  

    Re. 2
    
    I have the Ships Clock from the Wardroom of the USS Olympia hanging
    in my hallway. This is a eight inch brass ships clock the chimes
    with the ship bells. Made by ther Chelsie Clock co outside Boston.
    
    My uncle served aboard this ship when he was a crewmember during
    the Great White Fleets around the world cruise..
    Regards
    
    Paul

    Paul, that would explain why you have salt water in your veins!
    I just knew it had to be a family trait. Have you any other goodies?
    
    Jerry
    

    When I was in Newport R.I. I came across the "Museum of Yachting".
    (I think that was the name). Sadly, It was closed when I was there.
    Has anyone seen it? Any good?
    
    Jeff Johnsen
    

    
    The "Museum of Yachting" in Newport includes 2 floors
    of exhibits (models, pictures, dioramas, maps, artifacts,
    some small boats), mostly about historic racing yachts,
    yachtsmen, and single-handed (etc.) record-setters.
    
    Also in the Museum are a number of small historic sailboats,
    15-25' length. Also, a "boat restoration workshop".
    The Museum has one of the original Americas Cup J-boats
    (maybe 100 ft?, Folgers 'SHAMROCK' ??) which is rarely open
    for visit.  Recently obtained a 38' inland class "A" lake scow.
    Also, several other more recent AmCup racing yachts.
    
    The location of the Museum, at the historic Fort (name?)
    offers a great view of Newport Harbor and its approach.

    
    The Fall River (Mass.) Maritime Museum (which is 1/10 mi
    south of Battleship Cove) has a great variety of
    large ship models (glass cased). Most are commercial
    cargo or passenger vessels, sail and/or steam driven.
    
    There are also lots of artifacts from actual vessels.
    
    Of course Battleship Cove itself has a real sub, battleship,
    destroyer(?), 3(?) PT boats, etc.
    
    Admission to Battleship Cove includes admission to the
    Maritime Museum.

    
    The Peabody Museum in Salem Mass. is essentially
    a museum of New England maritime history. Years
    ago it was called the "Salem Maritime Institute"
    or somesuch. It is totally indoors, VERY large
    (4 floors), and focusses primarily on the China Trade
    corresponding to the Port of Salem's period of maritime
    dominance.
    
    There are few or no fullsize vessels, but a great many
    excellent ship models, including many "builders models".
    Also, many artifacts including ships octants, sextants,
    compasses, weapons, medicines, maps, fittings, logs etc.
    
    Also, entire galleries devoted to the products of China,
    India, Indonesia, Polynesia etc. which were the objects
    of that trade, including spectacular china, glass,
    silver, wood, textile etc. works of art and other
    items of maritime commerce.
    
    You could easily spend two full days in the Peabody
    Museum (of Salem) before "seeing it all".

    The Smithsonian in Washington - Museum of History and Technology
    - has a terrific display of U.S. shipping.  Great and small, plus
    a slice of nautical life to go along with it.
    
    Turn left at the locomotive :-)  ... or right at the Brooklyn Bridge.
    
    The Searsport museum offers a terrific video of a trip around Cape
    Horn - brutal business, but the narrator was taking it as an adventure.
    He claims to be the only person ever to descend from a set and drawing
    main course to the deck by going hand over hand down the luff. 
    And it's on the film.  Worth the price of admission.
    
    Ron
    

    There's the Herreshoff Marine Museum in Bristol R.I. They have a
    large collection of Herreshoff yachts ranging from the 12 1/2 to
    much larger boats.
    
    Gregg

    There is a very interesting maritime museum in Somerset, at the western
    tip of Bermuda. It is relatively new - I believe it opened in the last
    year or two and does an excellent job of capturing the Island's
    maritime past, over the past 3 1/2 centuries. It's also an interesting
    sail to get there.
    
    Bill
    

re .11:

The museum is on the grounds of the former dockyards that served the
Royal Navy until World War II or so. There are old naval cannons lying 
in the surf below the walls of many of the Bermuda forts. They were 
simply pushed over the walls when newer guns were installed. Old cannons 
are set in concrete and used as mooring bollards in St George and 
elsewhere. 

    If you find yourself in UK.....
    
    Portsmouth Naval Dockyard : HMS Victory still in commission and
    flagship of OC Portsmouth. The drydock she is in is was constructed
    about 1750. 3 Mins walk away the Mary Rose Henry VIII's flagship.
    Another 3 mins walk, The Warrior a Iron sail and steam frigate,
    under restoration and due to be in Portsmouth in 1992 is a frigate
    that predates HMS Victory.
    
    Greenwich to the east of London has the Cutty Sark and Chichester's
    yacht that he single handed when he was 65.
                                
    Bristol has Brunel's SS Great Britain
                                
    Exeter has a museum of working craft.
                                         
    Many more I have missed out........
    
    
    Pete         
                                         

    	The Maritime Museum at Bath has a great deal of artifacts,
    memorabilia, paintings, models, and small craft on display relating
    to the history of shipbuilding in New England from the pre-Europeans
    all the way up to present day. The museum encompasses several buildings
    including an apprentice shop where they usually have several authentic/
    older/traditional sail designs in varying stages of completion. I've 
    never been able to see it all in one day. It's all very interesting,
    very well presented, and if you REALLY get enthusiastic you can
    enroll in the apprentice shop program and spend any number of months
    learning the trade. A must visit for maritime antiquarians and just
    ordinary boat nuts.
    
    John
    

    Not to get too far off the subject, but Captain Cook's original
    manuscripts are in the archives at Hanscom AFB, in Bedford Mass.
    They were recovered from the Germans during WWII and brought there
    for safe keeping.  Every once and a while they hold an open to the
    public tour of their archives.  Their archives also contain many
    other very interesting pieces.
    
    Charlie

    I have heard that that great 12 meter, COURAGOUS as well as 
    STARS AND STRIPES 83 are docked somewhere in Boston. Can anyone
    tell me where?
    
    Jeff 

    RE: .13  "in UK"
    
>        Portsmouth Naval Dockyard : HMS Victory 

    And if you take the foot ferry from there across to Gosport, you
    can visit the most extensive submarine museum that I know of anywhere.
    
    

    re .16
    
    Last summer Courageous and S&S 83 were docked (and sailed from)
    the Courageous Sailing Center which is located in the Charlestown
    Navy Yard on a wharf adacent to the one where the Constitution is
    kept.  
    
    - gene

    I saw this in the paper today.  I got a ride on the Spirit once 
    for a two hour sail from Gloucester Harbor.  It would be a real 
    treat to spend some time on it.
       
         The 125-foot two-masted schooner, Spirit of Massachusetts is
         operated by New England Historic Seaport, which offers
         a series of voyages each year on the tall ship.  The next
         available cruise will set sail July 5th.  For information,
         call the nonprofit organization at (617) 242-1414, or
         write: New England Historic Seaport, Building 1, Charlestown
         Navy Yard, Boston, Mass.  02129.
         
         

    The New England Historic Seaport also owns one of the original
    Nantucket Lightships. It is tied up at their yard in Charlestown.
    I was fortunate to meet Henry Dormitzer who is the Director of the
    N.E. Historic Seaport and he gave me a personal guided tour including
    the engine room (normally off-limits). We were looking at using
    the Lightship as part of DECWORLD '87. It is available for
    lease/charter for events, however it is static (does not move).
    It is worth a visit if you are in the Boston area.
    
    Fred Smith
    

    Although it's a reproduction, the 169' square rigged ship built
    for the 1962 version of "Mutiny on the Bounty" may be worth a look.
    
    It's going to be in Boston next week, July 12-14, berthed at the
    World Trade Center.
    
    

    The 108' schooner, Evelina M. Goulart, after some years sailing in the
    dude boat trade as the Shenandoah, is being given to the Essex [Mass.]
    Shipbuilding museum, from which location she was launched in 1927.
    
    Along with the Adventure, which was hauled out in Gloucester last week
    for bow rebuilding, we'll now have two traditional schooners to visit
    in the Cape Ann area.
    

    The reproduction "H.M.S. Bounty" used for the 1962 movie version of the
    mutiny is in Boston for the next few days as part of the Harborfest.
    Tied up next to the World Trade Center.
    
    If you ever get to London, the Maritime museum at Greenwich is a
    must-see.  For about L4.50 you can get one ticket good for the museum,
    the "Cutty Sark" and some other museums including the Royal
    Observatory.  For an extra 50d you can go on board the "Gypsy Moth" as
    well.  Get there on the Docklands Light Railway from Tower Bridge and
    walk under the Thames, or take one of the boats down the river.
    

    re: .23
    
    
    <<Get there on the Docklands Light Railway from Tower Bridge and
    <<walk under the Thames, or take one of the boats down the river.
    
    
    really good sailors get to walk _on_ the Thames.  others take the foot 
    tunnel  :-]
    
    r

UPDATE on .22

>>>    The 108' schooner, Evelina M. Goulart, after some years sailing in the
>>>    dude boat trade as the Shenandoah, is being given to the Essex [Mass.]
>>>    Shipbuilding museum, from which location she was launched in 1927.
    
The Goulart has arrived.  She was pulled from the mud of New Bedford
Harbor, where she'd been abandoned a few years ago.  She never did dude
work, having instead been fitted with an engine for more modern fishing. 
The captain of the Shenandoah is the man who saw her and really sponsored
her preservation by having her hauled out at his own expense just before
she was due to be cut up to remove the harbor obstruction.  She represents 
what is believed to be the only unconverted Essex-built fishing schooner
in existence. 

She arrived last November in Essex, and after much hassle (political and 
mechanical), finally was hauled up on the public landing adjacent to the 
former Story Shipyard (now Cape Ann Small Craft) downtown, feet from where 
she was built.  The Essex Shipbuilding Museum is officially sponsoring her 
restoration and display, but the boat is bigger than the building and its 
contents in both physical and financial terms, so it's really the
townspeople continuing to carry the burden.  She can't stay on the landing
for much longer, so the big unresolved question now is where to put her. 

Wisely I believe, they have decided *not* to restore her to sailing 
condition -- too expensive, too risky, and a pain if she's to homeport in 
Essex (which makes sense if you've sailed up there before....)  Instead, 
they'll fix up her good side (the one that was out of the water when she 
sank) and remove planking from the rotted one (that lay in the mud when 
she settled on her side), to allow visitors to really see how they built 
them, and to get a full view of the interior from outside.  Much $$$ are 
still required, so if your heart and pocketbook follow these special 
ships, you can contact the Essex Shipbuilding Museum and buy yourself some 
V.I.P. status for not all that much!  It's a small, middle-class town ;-).

If you have any reason to pass through Essex on Rt 133, do plan to stop at 
the north end of the main drag downtown and have a free look.  It's quite 
impressive, both as a ship and as a project.

J.

>>>    If you ever get to London, the Maritime museum at Greenwich is a
>>>    must-see.  

Absolutely!

For any of you who are Ernest Shackleton fans, one little-known but
definitely worthwhile thing to include in your Museum tour is the "James 
B. Caird."  If you've read any of the accounts, the Caird is the 18' open 
boat salvaged from their shipwreck, which they fitted up for the voyage
from Elephant Island off the Palmer Peninsula (Antarctica) to the South
Georgia Islands.  I can't begin to describe what that little boat and its
crew went through (read "Endurance" by Alfred Lansing, I think it is, or
Shackleton's or Worseley's amazingly understated accounts), but to see it
for real is to make the entire ordeal more fantastic. 

These days, Shackleton is largely forgotten, and so the Caird and various 
bits of gear have been relegated to the basement, not on public display.  
I've found (twice now) that a polite inquiry at the front desk upon 
entering has always found a guard willing to lead one down for the 
pilgrimage. 

J.

UPDATE on .22

>>>    The 108' schooner, Evelina M. Goulart, after some years sailing in the
>>>    dude boat trade as the Shenandoah, is being given to the Essex [Mass.]
>>>    Shipbuilding museum, from which location she was launched in 1927.
    
Is this in fact the Shenandoah that sailed out of Vinyard Haven, skippered 
by (Steven ?) Douglass?  If so, I had the pleasure of sailing on her on two 
separate occasions. I've got lots of nice video tape of the cruises. I thought 
that Douglass had the ship built as a replica of the type of ship that was used 
to fight the slave trade in the last century?


Re. other maritime museums:

While traveling in Oslo, Norway in 1969, I visited a museum which houses a trio
of historical craft in a small cluster of buildings. First is the wooden sailing
ship "Fram" which was used in polar explorations (I don't remember any more
details than that). As I recall, there was no iron/steel used in the
construction since they didn't want to interfere with sensitive magnetic
measurements in the polar region. Second is a building which houses three Viking
long ships which were unearthed from ancient burial mounds and restored, and
lastly, there is the reconstructed balsa raft "Kon Tiki" which Thor Heyerdahl
(sp?) sailed from Peru to Tahiti. 

Also, in Stockholm, Sweden, there is a museum which houses the salvaged and
reconstucted war ship "Gustav Wasa" (pronounced 'Vasa') which sank immediately
after being launched in Stockholm harbor around 1640 (?). When I saw it, they
were in the process of preserving the timbers by continuously showering the ship
with some chemical preservatives to drive out the water and replace it with
something that would protect the wood. That process was scheduled to last about
ten years as I recall. The ship was in excellent condition, since it sank in
cold fresh water and was buried mostly in mud, all of which prevented oxidation
and rot. Amazingly, only a few cannon were recovered, since most had been
salvaged via diving bell shortly after going down. 

    re .-1
    
    For-what-its-worth department:
    
    I think it was noted before that the Goulart is not the Shenandoah. Far
    as I know she's still sailing dudes out of Vineyard haven.
    
    The Fram was built for the Norwegian explorer and scientist Fridtjof
    Nansen to test a theory he had that the ice in the polar sea
    circulated. The expedition sailed north and allowed themselves to be
    frozen in. Nansen hoped that the flow of the ice would take him within
    striking distance of the North Pole, which had not been visited at that
    time.  The ship was carried over the polar ice cap quite a ways but not
    to the pole. Nansen and one other man left the ship and set out on foot
    but they didn't reach the pole either. After a two year trip, (I think)
    the ship was turned loose of the ice and Nansen and his companion
    walked off the ice onto an island somewhere up there, so no hands were
    lost. Something of a feat for polar exploration of the day.
    
    The Fram made several other exploration voyages to the north. Finally
    Nansen lent her to Roald Amundsen for his successful assault on the
    South Pole. She served to get him and his team to Antarctica and
    supported them for the two seasons they were there.
    
    Wooden boat had a good piece on the Fram a couple of years ago showing
    lines and scantlings, (which were anything but scant, she had oak sides
    three feet thick more or less), and telling some of Nansen's story.
    Amundsen's story was very well told in the book "The Last Place on
    Earth" which which was made into a PBS special a while back.
    
    Mike H

    Another collection of historical ships worth visiting is in Porstmouth,
    England, which is only about 20 minutes from the Fareham office, about
    1� hours from Reading or London.
    
    There are three ships there. The oldest, the Mary Rose was built about
    the time of King Henry VIII ( 1600 ish ? ) and capsized and sank on its
    first voyage, in the Solent outside Portsmouth. She was raised in the
    early 1980's and the remains are preserved in a Museum, including
    thousands of artefacts recovered from the wreck.
    
    Secondly, there is H.M.S. Victory, which was Nelsons flagship at the 
    battle of Trafalger ( early 1800's ), which is immaculately preserved
    in its original condition.
    
    Finally, there is the newly restored H.M.S. Warrior ( I think I got
    the name right ) which was the first Ironclad warship to be built. I
    have not seen this boat myself.
    
    Chris
    

    RE .28
    
    According to a friend of mine who was in Vineyard Haven last week-end,
    the Shenandoah is still there, as you said serving dudes and dudettes.
    
    ... Bob
    

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<    Finally, there is the newly restored H.M.S. Warrior ( I think I got
<    the name right ) which was the first Ironclad warship to be built.

Do you know when that was? I had always thought that the Monitor and Merrimack 
(ca. 1860's) were the first ironclad warships.

Dave

> Do you know when that was? I had always thought that the Monitor and Merrimack 
> (ca. 1860's) were the first ironclad warships.

    Warrior was possibly the first British Ironclad. I don't really know its
    history. Perhaps I'll go and see it next time i'm down there.
    
    Chris
    

    I think the first ironclads were square rigged sailing ships.
    They simply added metal plating to the hull above the waterline.
    
    Althought not first in every detail, the Monitor was the true
    breakthrough design. The first ship designed with metal armor,
    a gun turret, and steam powered.

<    Althought not first in every detail, the Monitor was the true
<    breakthrough design. The first ship designed with metal armor,
<    a gun turret, and steam powered.

Does anybody know the status of the Monitor? After having been discovered and
explored, are there any plans to salvage her and put her on display? 

Dave

    RE: .29
    
    >Another collection of historical ships worth visiting is in Porstmouth,
    >England, which is only about 20 minutes from the Fareham office, about
    >1� hours from Reading or London.
    
    And while you're there you can take the little ferry over to Gosport
    and visit the submarine museum.
    

    Back in .29 there was a reference to HMS Victory and being 'immacuately
    restored'. It actually sits in a concrete drydock, with the masts
    stepped into the concrete- the hull just surronds the masts- which are
    now steel poles. Hardly a seaworthy rig!
    
    I belong to the USS Constitution Museum Ship Modelers Guild. A few
    months ago our guest speaker was the past Commander of HMS Victory. He
    gave a fine talk about the  ship, and deliverd it in his full dress
    uniform. While he gave his talk, the USS Constitution was visible thru
    the windows to his left- about 50 yards away. Sometime during the Q&A
    session it was noted 'Our' oldest ship still floated. He took the dig as
    a gentleman!

    Ron,
       She may be in dry dock but she is still a commissioned vessel and is
    the flag ship of C&C Portsmouth. She was afloat until the start of the
    last war 1939. She is currently undergoing a major refit which is
    likely to include recoppering her bottom. It has been decided that to
    preserve her that it is better to keep her dry. Another interesting
    project that has just started up in the NE (Where they restored
    Warrior) is the restoration of one of the Frigates that was with
    Victory at Trafalgar it will take 5 years, it is intended that like
    Warrior she will make the trip to Portsmouth by sea.
    
    Pete
    

    Pete,
    
    do you think the Frigate will be under sail?
    
    Gregg

    Gregg,
         It depends on how much cash they manage to raise. There are a
    number of tall ships in the UK (Royalist, Winston Churchill etc) so
    rigging and sail making is no problem. The project is being carried out
    on Tyneside that before the Great War 1914 had many ship yards but
    today only boasts one repair yard. They are using the skills of many
    unemployed craftsmen as they did with Warrior. The fear is they will
    run out of funds before they can complete the project. Regretably there
    is so much history over here that needs restoration and the public will
    only contribute so much........
    
    Pete

    correction not Tyneside but Teeside. Apologies.
    
    Pete

    
    A visit to the Victory is quite an experience. Along with books like
    Melville's "Whitejacket", it's invaluable for gaining insight into the
    brutal life of a sailor in the days of fighting sail. It was ships like
    the Victory that imposed the continental blockade, year after year,
    winter or summer, in conditions that would be regarded as intolerable
    today. She is a great symbol of Britain's past naval prowess and might!
    Everyone interested in sailing who goes to England should visit her.
    

    RE: .36
    
<<    Back in .29 there was a reference to HMS Victory and being 'immacuately
  <<  restored'. It actually sits in a concrete drydock, with the masts
    <<stepped into the concrete- the hull just surronds the masts- which are
   << now steel poles. Hardly a seaworthy rig!
    
    
    	Yeah, ok   ---- except for THAT.
    
    	Still a Must see visit for all but the absolute, "if it ain't done
     	purfect, it ain't hardly nothin'" kind of classic ship voyeur.  
    :-)
<<    I belong to the USS Constitution Museum Ship Modelers Guild. A few
 <<   months ago our guest speaker was the past Commander of HMS Victory. He
  <<  gave a fine talk about the  ship, and deliverd it in his full dress
   << uniform. While he gave his talk, the USS Constitution was visible thru
    <<the windows to his left- about 50 yards away. Sometime during the Q&A
    <<session it was noted 'Our' oldest ship still floated. He took the dig as
    <<a gentleman!
    
    		True gentlemen don't" dig", unless they really mean to  8\]
    
    		The Constitution is nice, too.  It's a must see stop for
    out of towners visiting Boston.  I was there two weekends ago with a friend 
    from Venezuela.  Couldn't get over the care with which so much had been
    restored - except for the steel bracing, electric power, heating system
    and that sort of thing.
    
    Ron

    Forgot to mention that the dry docks Victory and the Mary Rose are in
    are older than Victory both built around 1700 and are often overlooked. 
    There is a Museam of the sea in Cameret on the Brittany Coast of
    France. They have many old fishing vessels what is suprising is how
    little the hull designs have changed.
    
    Pete

re .41:

If I recall correctly, most of the actual blockading was done by the 
frigates. Ships of the line (eg, the Victory) were too slow and hard to 
manage in the confined coastal waters. The frigates were able to stay 
close to the French and Spanish ports even in quite bad weather due to 
outstanding seamanship and skilled ship handling. Many of the British 
sailors and ships stayed at sea for very long periods. Admiral 
Collingwood didn't go ashore for years (I don't remember exactly how 
many) and died aboard his flagship (of illness, not battle). Major battles 
were actually quite infrequent, maybe three or four in all during the 
many years of war.

re .42
    >    
   > restored - except for the steel bracing, electric power, heating system
   > and that sort of thing.
    
    You know how those monohullers are, always puttering around, adding this
    or that....   ;>)   ;>)

>>>         It depends on how much cash they manage to raise. There are a
>>>    number of tall ships in the UK (Royalist, Winston Churchill etc) so
>>>    rigging and sail making is no problem. 

There's actually quite a record of the old techniques, so research is 
quite simple.  

I actually have a copy of "The Art of Sailmaking / as practised in / The
Royal Navy, / and according to the most approved methods / in / The
Merchant Service, / accompanied with the Parliamentary Regulations /
relative to Sails and Sail Cloth."  Published in London, 1796, 196pp, with
etched drawings of each sail listed (and there are hundreds, for every
ship of the line, with complete dimensioning.  If this little volume
somehow found its way into my library (I'm not a collector; this has to be
the most valuable thing on my shelves) then I suspect quite a few were 
printed at that time.  

If anyone would like to see this book, I'd be glad to bring it to work if 
you'd like to meet me at LMO sometime.

J.

    I recently read a book about the America, in which it was claimed
    that one of the big advantages she had over the British boats of
    the time was that she had machine woven cotton sails while the British
    used hand woven linen.  The linen wasn't nearly as airtight.
    
    If this is correct, then a problem in doing a perfect restoration
    of a pre-1850 ship would be in finding the cloth to make the
    sails...

    RE: .47
    
    Nah. Just tear up and sew together some white cotton dress shirts.
    
    
    No sweat!
    
    Gregg

    The Saga Sigler and the Oseberg sank in rough weather Sunday off the
    coast of Spain.  They were on their way to participate in the World's
    Fair in Seville.  The 11 crew members were rescued by search vessels.
    
    Some of you may have seen the Saga Sigler when it visited North America
    a few years ago. 
    

>>>    The Saga Sigler and the Oseberg sank in rough weather Sunday off the
>>>    coast of Spain.  

Dennis,

Can you fill in/refresh memories on these vessels?  It's always sad to 
hear of a loss like that....

Thanks, John.

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    RE: .50
    
>>>    The Saga Sigler and the Oseberg sank in rough weather Sunday off the
>>>    coast of Spain.  

>Can you fill in/refresh memories on these vessels?  It's always sad to 
>hear of a loss like that....

    I don't remember the Oseberg, but I did get aboard the Saga Sigler once
    several years ago.  It was patterned after a Viking trading boat with a
    single mast and square sail.  There was a low cabin in the middle that
    impressed me as being more squalid than most trans-Atlantic quarters. I
    don't remember if it had a leeboard or not.  Length was about forty to
    fifty feet I reckon.

    My local Library now has a book entitled "The Naval Institute Guide to
    Maritime Museums of North America" by Robert H. Smith.
    
    This is just what I've been looking for.  390 pages, paperback
    
    It has all sorts of museums, lighthouses, libraries and collections, as
    well as historic vessels all across the U. S. and Canada with details
    on location, activities, admission, hours, and highlights.