Conference thebay::joyoflex

	Higgledy Piggledy
	Pierre de Fermat
	Stated a theorem
	Without giving proof.
	Many years later
	Mathematicians
	Continue to struggle:
	'Twas all just a spoof.

    Higgledy Piggledy
    Sir Kenneth H. Olsen
    Started a company
    On a shoe string.
    Years thirty three later
    Computerization
    Has conquered the world--it's
    now the "in" thing.

	Higgledy Piggledy
	DEC continues its fall
	as the Dow average
	begins to zoom
	while bear market skeptics
	characteristically
	prophesy Digital's
	future of gloom.
    
    Re .0:	Your examples all have a syllable scheme
    		of 6,6,6,4,6,6,6,4.  Is this required?

    In 788.3, SSDEVO::EGGERS asks "Your examples all have a syllable scheme
    of 6,6,6,4,6,6,6,4.  Is this required?"
    
    As the RAICOMHP (Resident Authority In Charge Of Matters Hig-Pig) (in
    my daughter's absence) let me state unequivocally:  YES.  
    
    All it is Given to us to know about Higgledy-Piggledies is Written in
    the .0 corpus.
    
    ...Except for the following first attempt of mine, that I scrapped in
    favor of the last H-P "instantiation" :-) :-) that I published in .0 --
    your question prompts this further revelation that I was
    (understandably, as you'll see) loath to expose the other night:
    
    =============================
    
    Higgledy Piggledy
    Poetry paradigm:
    Here's how to write one if
    you've got the wit.
    Start with one word on line
    six and work back-ER-wards;
    This one don't make it; it's 
    Odorous sh*t.
    
    =============================
    
    Which goes to show that even in my earliest days of HigPigOsity, I knew
    gold from dross.  Even deliciously self-referential, yea almost :-)
    recursive, DROSS.
    
    Not only is it literally in execrable :-) taste, it violates even its 
    own stricture for ONE-wordness on line six, and it even forces that 
    line to six syllables by resorting to the lame diacope of a gratuitous 
    nonsense syllable.  
    
    (Sorry, VMSDEV::HALLYB's .1, agreed that you're off, most noticeably by
    only 1 syllable in line six... but you can claim pride of place as
    "First DECcie out of the box!!")
    
    As for SSDEVO::EGGERS's .2 and .3 -- I like the sentiments!!  
    Go, DEC!!  Yay, Sir KEN!!!
    
    Keep them HigCards 'n PigLetters coming, folksies -- and BTW put in
    your geographical locations too... Humor a "cartographer manque'" if
    you would...  
    
    Yr ob't H-Psvt,
    Dan, Massachusetts USA
    
    PS -- RTFHPM => Read The Flipping Hig-Pig Manual :-) :-)

    Higgledy-Piggledy
    Margaret Thatcher (the
    Poll-Muddle Tartar) in-
    Vented in sport
    `Quasi-Autonomous
    Non-Government[ic]al		!a bit of a cheat, but _I_ didn't
    Organizations' - or			! write the acronym
    QANGOs for short.
    
    b (from REO, who isn't fussy about stealing a good line)
    
[metrical ps: .0 suggests not just 6,6,6,4,6,6,6,4, but that each 6 is
a pair of dactyls and that each 4 is a dactyl followed by a single stressed
syllable. Getting the number of syllables right doesn't strike me as being
enough.]
        					

    Higgledy-Piggledy
    I had a notion to
    make up the deficit
    from the UK.
    Seems like another Brit,
    coincidentally,
    had the same notion.  Life's
    funny that way!
    
    Still, not to worry!  I'll
    press on regardless and
    put down my efforts for
    you Yanks to see.
    Noting allows us such
    universality.
    Read them with breakfast while
    we have our tea!
    

    
    	Higgledy-piggledy
    	what kind of world is this
    	telling me what I can
    	or I can't do.
    	Freedom will soon become	[This is the only thing I could
    	infinitesimal ...		think of that would go along
    	but could be changed by a	with "infinitesimal"]
    	person like you.
    
    	Maybe substitute "our rights" for freedom?  Nah, not much
    	better.  Suggestions welcome.
    
    
    
    	Higgledy-piggledy
    	buy a rotisserie
    	cook up a meal for me
    	when you get home.
    	Then we'll have cake and tea
    	maybe a beer or three
    	formidability ...
    	hope you won't roam.
    
    							Shawn L.
    
    

    Higgledy piggledy
    One two three four five six
    Seven eight nine ten e-
    Leven twelve thir-
    Teen fourteen fifteen six-
    (Enjambementally)
    Teen seventeen that's all
    There is room fer.
    
    [But is it art?]
    
    b

    Higgledy piggledy
    Now, what was that about?
    Counting could never be
    taken for Art.
    You could write anything
    inconsequentially
    but a good Higgledy
    comes from the heart!
    
    
    Making it meaningful
    should not be difficult.
    Just putting numbers down
    seems such a waste.
    I, alone, may find it
    incomprehensible.
    Where do you stand on such
    matters of taste?
    
    
    
    Brian

    
    	RE: .9
    
    	Wow ... impressive!!
    
    							Shawn L.
    

    Well, I don't know whether Knowles's 788.8 is *art*, but it sure is
    funny!  :-)  I loved the supreme irony of claiming enjambement when the
    whole idea was to FORCE it by the silly number sequence.
    
    And as for Brian's latest oeuvre in .9, I didn't realize that
    it was possible to grind out TWO H-P's in such a short time.  It takes
    *me* just days...  To do it at NotesFile-conversational speed is a real
    tour de force.  Bravo, twice!! :-) :-)
    
    BTW am I enjambementally impaired if I pronounce it en-jambe-MONtally?
    
    :-),
    Dan
                                        

    Higgledy piggledy
    That word is up for grabs:
    I wasn't thinking just
    What made it tick.
    It is entirely 
    Neologistical:
    Franglais-American -
    Please take your pick.
    
    b
    
    
    
    

    H P
    President Gorbachev,
    Modern-day diplomat,
    Modern-day tsar:
    "That Balkan request is
    Unconstitutional;
    They must remain in the
    USSR."

    Wow, ::EGGERS, what a coup :-)!!  Pls accept my admiration as well as
    the small correction above, since I believe it's the Baltic states that
    are actually secessionist these days.  Though Lord knows there's enough
    ferment in the Balkans to brew up many other Hig-Pigs...
    
    Best,
    Dan (self-appointed RAICOMHP :-)

    Yeah.  It was supposed to be "Baltic," nit "Balkan."  Your .-1 note
    got posted before I noticed the error.

    These things have been around for quite a while. I was introduced to
    them as "double dactyls" on account of the two dactyl (- v v) feet in
    each of the six syllable lines.
    
    The only one I can remember dates back to my fantasy role playing days
    at college. It is found scrawled on the wall of a dark and little
    frequented alley-way:
    
    Chivalry Schmivalry,
    Roger the thief has a
    Perfect new method for
    Sneaky attacks:
    Characteristically
    Folks who are reading are
    Always forgetting to
    Watch their own ...
    
    My apologies to the original author [is that a pleonasm?] if I have
    misquoted him; the state of my memory is a homophone of the period of
    time that has past since I first heard the verse.
    
    Andy.

    I, too, learned them as "Double Dactyls" -- I first encountered
    them in a "New York" magazine contest.  There were strict rules;
    my impression was the rules were "semi-official" and not just for
    the contest.
    
    The meter is strict:
    
       DAH duh duh DAH duh duh for lines 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7;
    
       DAH duh duh DAH         for lines 4 and 8.
    
    The first line is a nonsense phrase, like "Higgledy piggledy."
    
    The second line is a doubly dactylic name
    
    The sixth line is a six-syllable, doubly dactylic word.
    
    Like this:
    
    		Trippingly, rippingly
     		Mischa Baryshnikov
    		always made dancing a
    		Labour of Love;
    
    		Now he runs A.B.T. --
    		choreographically
    		stuck in the middle when
    		"Push Comes To Shove."
    
    					andrew

	Heresy Pharisee 
	General Joshua
	Unhesitatingly
	Blew the town down.
	Biblical history,
	Ecclesiastical,			[Chatecumenical]
	Trumpets how Jerico
	Earned its renown.
    
    [I knew that meeting was useful for something!]

    
	Glamoura Camera
	Eye-catching scenery
	Made Ridley Scott
	A director of choice
	His movies have beautiful
	Cinematography
	Yet they seem lacking
	In well-scripted "voice"

(Ridley Scott directed Blade Runner, Legend, and some other very visually
stunning movies)


	Healthily Stealthily
	Blood pressure rising
	The type-A persona
	Is likely to shout
	But doctors can now apply
	Sphygmomanometers
	Read the results
	And then tell them "Chill Out!"




	Higgledy Piggledy
	Systems at Digital
	Aren't quite infallible
	As they crash - thus -
	They simply distract themselves
	Omphaloskeptically
	'Til we can call
	their attention to us

"Higgledy Piggledy",
Once in a limerick,
Dared a bold noter
To sweat out a rhyme.
But that one syllable
(Antepenultimick)
Made him invent a word.
... Works all the time!

Higgley Piggley
Watch David Copperfield
Vanish a Harley from
Under your nose;

How does he do it, then,
Mirro-fantasmically?
Nobody's telling 'cause
Nobody knows.



I can't quite remember whre I've heard "Nobody's telling..."; seems
like it was in a song or poem about quantum effects...wait, I just
rememebered. It was a song in the Journal of Irreproducible Results
done to the tune of "My Favorite Things" which extolled the virtues
of quantum physics. I'll have to dig it out.

-Perry

Here's a couple of cute ones lifted from Espy's _An Almanac of Words
at Play_:

Tiddely Quiddely		Higgledy-piggledy
Edward M. Kennedy		Dorothy Richardson
Quite unaccountably		Wrote a huge book with her
Drove in a stream.		Delicate muse.

Incomprehensible		Where (though I hate to seem
Pleas of amnesia		Uncomplimentary)
Possibly shattered		Nothing much happens
Political dream			And nobody screws

-Leonard Miall			-John Hollander

    Muffety tuffety
    Somebody, rhymingly,
    Sat - ate - got frightened - ran
    Off in a state.
    Why, though, I wonder, must
    Arachnophobia
    Always be seen as a
   _Womanly_ trait?

    Spidery glidery,
    Sit down beside 'er y,
    I cannot help if a 
    Spidery trait
    Looks to you like I am
    Misogynistically
    Wiggling my legs (they're all
    Hairy, and eight).

Snuppity Uppity
Little Miss Muffity
How can you blame her for
Running away?

All know that spiders are,
Gastrointestin'ly,
Quite incompatible
With curds and whey!

-Perry

    	Since I am quite lacking in imagination at the moment I can only
    quote Tolkien.
    
    Laurelind�renan lindelorendor malinorn�lion ornemalin
    Taurelil�m�a-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaur�a L�m�anor.
    
    Apologies to anyone with a VT100...��

    For the edification of those of us who:
    
    *	have tried without success to understand and thus have never read
    	Tolkien, and
    
    *	are running a rather poor terminal-emulator that renders most
    	accented characters as a BOX,
    
    Could you de-accent and de-mystify that quotation, possibly including a
    translation for the heathen?  advTHANKSance!  :-)
    
    Cheers,
    Dan_who_hopes_to_enjoy_it,_ultimately

    	To de-accent the characters might not help with reading it, since
    in 3 places there is an accented "e" followed by an "a", and the
    accentuation (apart from anything else) implies separate pronunciation
    of the two vowels.
    
    	The first three accented characters are "o", "e", "o" accented with
    "'". The next two are both "e" accented with two dots. Then there is an
    "o" accented with "'" and another "e" accented with two dots.
    
    	The final two characters are "u" circumflex and beta, and were
    caused by a noisy dial-in line, and have no relevance at all.
    
    	If you have a VT05 or equivalent, and still have difficulty
    visualising this, it is shortly after Merry and Pippin meet The Ent, so
    you can find it in a bookshop or library. It is translated into English
    in appendix F, for those who are still confused ;-)  The original
    language is Quenya.

    
    Escapery japery,
    Screens that go apery - 
    Why must you mess up my
    Output device?
    Causing unfath'mable
    Malfunctionality;
    Turning workstations to 
    Junk in a trice.
     

Metric'ly rhymingly -
what's the attraction these
poems, whose rhyme schemes are
dactyls and such,
have on this noter?  I
polysyllabic'ly
try for some humor - it
doesn't work much.

[apologies for re-using .0's 6th line/word]

	Huffily gruffily	
	Jonathon Reckard, a
	Contemporaneous
	Man of renown.
	What youthful trauma or
	Psychopathology
	Makes his expression a
	Hideous frown?

Hemingly, hawingly,
How did I bring on this
Miscomprehension which
You arrived at?
I only wanted to,
Self-deprecatingly,
Poke fun at *my* notes - they
Mostly say squat.                 [and occasionally depend on sight rhymes]

Gruffily, huffily,
Eggers (SSDEVO),
How dare you cast doubt on
My childhood past!
But most importantly,
Mis-typographically,
Spell my first name wrong!  I'm
Simply aghast!                    [it's Jonath*a*n, but "Jon" is easier]

[Also, it's no fair using two 6-syllable words in one higgle.  I resort to
inventing the few I come up with.]

    Hmmm.  I think I lost that round.

    Hobbity bobbity
    .26 is a
    Quote from a book for which
    I've not much time.
    Two of the `words' that are
    Neoglottalical
    Have but five syllables;
    Nor does it rhyme.
    
    [In fairness to the Great Man, maybe he didn't have this particular verse 
    form in mind; and maybe, in Quenya, `ornemalin' and `L�m�anor' _do_ rhyme, 
    or are inter-related in some extra-phonetic way that a mere mortal can't
    begin to understand.]
    
    b

Hobbita Schmobita,
J.R.R. Tolkein
Couldn't tell hobbits from
Groundhogs, I think.

Half of his beasties are
Stereotypical
Two-footed cud-chewers;
Hobbits? They stink!

-Perry

(I stipulate that line two may be either five or six syllables.)

"Warily, carefully,"
Samwise the gaffer says,
"Watch out for those who do
Say profane things.
They might be Saruman's
Anti-establishment
Orcs which escaped the wrath
Of Gondor's kings."

    ... who I'm referring to under the %%% mask, below...
    
    ... My apologies to those to whom this is just an "in-joke"...  No
    apologies to the individual who has necessitated my writing this
    cathartic attempt at satire; I'm just attempting to convert the grossly
    distasteful into the merely ridiculous...
    
    Staringly, Glaringly,
    =WomanNotes=' %%%,
    fighter 'gainst "sexism,"
    vendor of cant:
    "Evidence must be just
    incontrovertible,
    Else I will foam
    at the mouth as I rant!!"
    

    I like it!  So I'll take the liberty of removing
    the "in joke" nature of it.
    
    Staringly, Glaringly,
    Gloria Steinem, a
    Fighter 'gainst sexism,
    Vendor of cant:
    "Evidence must be just
    Incontrovertible,
    Else I will foam at the
    Mouth as I rant!!"

    There was no attempt to guess. I don't have the foggiest idea who was
    actually intended.

Higgledy, Piggledy,
I ask respectfully
if I could repost the
poems I've seen

into a conference that
is dedicated to
commemoratively
honor Tolkien?

    Airily, Shareily,
    The RAICOMHP	(pronounced Are-ay-eye-COM-aytch-pee, _vide_ 788.4 :-)
    Grants His permission
    (for what it is worth).
    
    (Just keep in mind that he 
    Ex-Cathedrallically
    could have been wrong, and be
    sent to Mid-Earth.)

    Just to be clear, Wook -- if the notes you want to repost aren't yours,
    then you have to ask the writers of the notes for their permission to
    repost.
    
    					andrew
    

    I figured I'd ask once en masse and only repost those write by anyone
    who replied or sent mail granting me permission.  I know about the
    policy.  That's why I put in the HP in the first place.  It's a good
    reminder for the uninitiated, though.
    
    Wook

    My elder daughter returned recently from a recruiting trip out to
    Seattle, and while there she visited with my first cousin Barnett,
    who's an assistant DA out in the wilds of Washington.  Despite this
    distance, he too turns out to be genetically susceptible to the siren
    lure of the Hig-Pig...  A recent letter from him arrived all neatly
    typed, save for an irregular region in the center, wherein was
    interpolated the following in his characteristic scrawl:
    
    Intrafamilial
    Higgledy-Piggledy
    has the advantage
    of passing the time.
    Slipping the message in
    epistolarily
    in the interstices
    can be sublime.
    
    And by the way Wook RUMOR::LEE (.42), feel free to repost this and all
    of mine anywhere...  :-)

    I respond to Dan's request to post here an H-P which I posted in
    the "Womannotes" conference, in a topic started by Dan, entitled
    "Milestones and Accomplishments of our dear ones."
    
    
    I have a daughter whose
    name is Olivia.
    She is just seven weeks
    into her life.
    Her major milestone was
    unceremonial.
    Simply, last Friday, she
    smiled at my wife.
    
    
    Brian

                             Higgledy-Piggledy
                            Printing technology
                             Used to use impact,
                           Now writes with light.
                        Print-tracks that used to go
                            Boustrophedonic'lly
                            Now use a Saw-Tooth
                         But still come out right.
    
    After a lapse of 6 months, Higgledy-Piggledies LIVE AGAIN!!  :-)  Dan

Higgledy Piggledy,
Such a calamity!
Packages offered and
Stock prices cut.
Not quite enough to be
Supercompetitive
Let's hope that DEC can get
Out of this rut!
					- Hovig
(A co-op student at Northeastern U, Boston, whose last day is 
tomorrow - my choice, not theirs - and who _knows_ DEC is back on 
its way up, even if ever so slowly! =)

I may have mentioned elsewhere in this file that I correspond regularly with my
daughter who recently moved to the San Francisco area to work for (Shudder!
Gasp!) ORACLE.  One of the bennies of this position is the ability to exchange
email with netbuddies, e.g., me, via DECWRL::.  Hence when I thought of my
latest Hig-Pig, I naturally sent it westward to She Who Started This Entire
String.

Immediately thereafter I received the following message:
=====================
************ Advance Billing ****************

This is just to notify you that the BEST Hig Pig you have ever
had the pleasure to read is on its way to you within the next 2 days.
I have never been more excited by or challenged by a Hig Pig.
[name removed] was frightened by the gleam in my eye as I was writing it,
and [another name removed] asked me if I had been drinking.

Wait and wonder.
===================== 
Tonight I received the following:
=====================  
Subj:	Hold your breath no longer... 

Okay, here it is:  the long-awaited, much-publicized, intensely creative Hig
Pig I have been promising you.  I got extremely excited when you first
mentioned the sesquipedalian word in question, thinking that the Hig Pig I was
about to receive would be this clever.  I was greatly disappointed that you
didn't make the obvious and inviting leap and go for the gusto.
 
There are so many reasons that I'm proud of this Hig Pig, I don't even want to
get into it here -- we can talk on the phone later.  Suffice it for me to say,
you try it, and watch the difficulties multiply.  _Even_though_ I have already
provided you with a template!!
    

    
Note as you read that punctuation marks, as usual, go with the
words directly preceding them.
 
*****************************************
Higgledy Piggledy;
finding long words is but 
you challenge: the of part
must follow through.
 
True for calls effort This 
boustrophedonicness;
will demo brief this thus, 
prove it to you.
 

    
 	Like struggling, Mightily
	oxen through plowing-time,
	till verses juggled I 
	quarter past two.
 
	Rhythmical, Perfectly 
	boustrophedonical, 
	in- an form final in
	credible coup!
 
 
	-- Jodie         
===================== 

    Several folks to whom I (proud daddy that I is) forwarded this last
    have responded offline via mail with the electronic equivalent of
    "HUH?" -- 
    
    So for their benefit I will drop the hint that they should see 
    MOMCAT::WOMANNOTES-V3 notes 10.368 and .369
    for an example of the proper frame of mind.
    
    For the =wn=-impaired a further hint -- read the Hig-Pig
    boustrophedonically...
    
    And no, I don't have the wit to give this hint in hig-pig format. 
    
    :-) , DannaD

    Higgledy piggledy?
    Line; other every take
    Read it from back to front
    (back. to front or)
    What, for your pains, you get's
    Boustrophedonical -
    Writing that's optimized
    Speed-reading. for

    FWIW, this critique will have to do until the NRAICOBHP speaks from her
    LeftCoast Oracle...
    
    OmiGod, that was good!  I haven't a hope of doing that well -- I know
    when I've reached my limits...  .48 was it for me, at least until I
    have about 5 hours to work on one...
    
    The only nitlet I can pick is that it only rhymes completely when read 
    out NON-Boustrophedonically (said he sardonically:-).  When *Jodie* 
    writes one, it comes out right BOTH ways!  So there...  My daughter can 
    beat you up, nyaah.  IMHO.
    
    :-) :-)
    
    (FONRAICOBHP = Father Of Non-Resident Authority in Charge of 
                   Boustrophedonical Hig-Pigs :-)

    Damn it all, Kalikow!
    That's just not cricket, sir;
    changing the rules to your
    young daughter's whim!
    Not that we British are
    Antedeluvian.
    We just find change for change
    sake a mite grim.
    
    If a thing works, and it
    works well, just leave it, sir.
    Don't mess around with the 
    style and the form.
    Now that we've read half your 
    autobiography,
    get could we think you do
    back to the norm?
    
    Oh, my God, Kalikow!
    What have you done to me?
    been has disease strange What
    sent down the line?
    distance long some it Is
    encephalopathy,
    your from notes these through spread
    keyboard to mine?
    
    Tell me please, Dan, what to 
    do to get rid of this
    of feeling terrible
    head over heels;
    quite backwards, moment one          
    unnecessarily,
    how forwards; moment next                    
    giddy one feels!
    
    Higgledy Piggledy!
    Looks like we British have
    our with faith keep to failed
    old status quo.
    of us accuse some While
    intractability,
    we task tough your with faced
    sure had a go!
    
    
    (Dan - a real delight, on nostalgically revisiting this note today,
    to find it back in active service.  Well done!)
    
    Brian
    

VISA::JOYOFLEX 852.15, 788.54 -- the marks of truly outstanding wit!  

*Well Done* yourself, Brian!!

Thanks for your excellent sallies.  It gives me such pleasure to see how much
others enjoy goofing around with the stuff I (and Jodie) start...  
Yours especially made me laugh hysterically, tears streaming down me cheeks.

I've sent them off to the NRAICOMBHP for her comments.  I do believe you've
done the impossible, that is, to best her.  Bravo!!!

And equal regards to your friend, Ms. Glott.  I wonder if she has the same sort
of voice as her sister Eppie.

Cheers,
Dan

    God bless Dan Kalilow! - a man whose generosity is matched only by
    his judgement and taste!
    
    Polly, a dear friend and fragrant English rose (the perfect foil
    to my Scottish thistle) was somewhat upset by "goofing around",
    taking it to be some perjorative reference to Mickey Mouse's *really*
    dumb friend.  I disabused her of this, reminding her of the Shavian
    description of our two cultures being "divided by a common language",
    and suggesting that you meant "tinkering" or "toying".  I hope you
    did... Polly has a mean streak!
    
    Polly relented enough to join me in sending you a mail.  Given our
    collective incompetence with the medium, however, you are unlikely
    to have received it.  If you do, let one of us know!
    
    Meantime, pretty Polly and I will spend our last few weeks with
    the company attempting to compile even more H-P's and Abominables.
    
    Brian

    Remember my far-off cousin (who works as the County Prosecutor in
    far-off central Washington State) -- he whose previous opus was posted
    here in 788.46?
    
    I recently sent him an updated excerpt of this string (and the Pollys
    string as well) and received the following...  (Background context --
    he lives so far "out in the sticks" that mail is delivered not to his
    home but to his Post Office Box).
    
    (Form-feed so it all sits on the same screen...)
    
    "Higgledy-Piggledy
     happiness," giggled he,
    "is the result of a
     raft of new rhymes."
    
     Finding your foolery
     endoPOBoxally           (!)
     had the effect of a
     chorus of chimes.

    Quite out of the blue, while our ten month old daughter Olivia was in
    the bath with her older sister, Beatrice; my wife, Rebecca, said, "I
    just composed a Higgledy-Piggledy while getting Olivia undressed!"
    
    To put this in context, Olivia wears "terry" towelling nappies (diapers
    to you) which have to be folded and pinned...
    
    
    Higgledy piggledy,
    my baby's wriggly.
    I've lost the nappy pin.
    What shall I do?
    I think I'm ready for
    disposability.
    It's so much easier 
    when there's a "poo".
    
    
    Hope I haven't offended the sensibilities of non-parents!
    
    Brian
    
    

    I can't speak for the sensibilities of nonparents, but your mention of
    disposable nappies has offended the sensibilities of at least one
    ecologically-conscious parent.  Although presently in repose, I oppose,
    and propose to dispose of, those.
    
    And now back to our regularly scheduled hig-pigs, of which I promise to
    produce one someday...
    
    -d

    Higgeldy-Piggeldy notes are anathema. We *have* had enough of verses like
    those. Can't we go back to a style with less schema? Sesquipedalian
    words that are alien - I would prefer much more free verse or prose.

		    

		    Monahan Dave, do you
		    Think you can fool us,
		    Typing your higgledy
		    Filling the line?
		    Piggledies don't detest
		    Continuation-ness
		    Readers of Joyoflex
		    Don't need to whine.


		    Delia

    
    Higgledy- Monahan! you with I'm Let's all be anarchists, mould. the
    breaking So what if it becomes incomprehensible? means icons
    Challenging progress.  Be bold!  Piggledy.
    
    Polly
    
    

		    For your pet project, be
		    Sure to get buy-in.
		    Escalate problems and
		    Let your light shine!
		    Use open-door policy
		    Retroproactively.
		    You won't be rightsized -
		    But keep it off line.
		    
		    

	'sposable nappies are
	quite the bestest thing for
	babies and parents and everyone else;
	Betterer than terry
	ecolog-ically
	sounder to chuck 'em
	than wash 'em in drelse*

	* a biological washing powder I just made up. 

  >  "The first casuistry of Euphemisms is LAMBKE's."
  >              Ms Polly Glott, 1991
    
Casuist casuist
Questions of conduct are
right up his alley -- he
knows wrong from right.

Matters of conscience raise
nonsensibilities
He's not disparaged -- he
speaks blatherskite.
    

    
    Are you suggesting that
    casuists moralize;
    helping weak mortals to
    sort wheat from chaff?
    Surely their forte is 
    paralogistical
    "Matters of conscience"?  Now,
    don't make me laugh!

    ... as well as for Politically Correct bun-wear...
    ... as well as Full Employment for Nappy-Pin factory workers ...
    ... sorry about when there's a "poo" but that's what toilets and the
        occasional spoon are for...!!  (as I recall...  yukko :-)
    
    Higgledy Piggledy,
    Olivia's wriggledy.
    Nappies of cellulose
    make the buns itch.
    
    Nappies of cotton are
    biodegradable --
    payback in comfort is
    well worth the switch!
                                                                 

    
    Higgledy Piggledy
    I must be leaving now.
    Going from here to a 
    job with a bank
    Noting has built up such 
    interrelationships.
    I have got so many 
    people to thank...
    
    
    People to thank for their
    humour and wisdom; their
    sharp erudition and
    lexical fun.
    Grammar is not just for 
    disciplinarians.
    Shoot off your mouth if you're
    armed with a pun!
    
    
    Monahan (bless him) has
    held things together.  Though
    now he's off skiing, we 
    won't break the rules.
    He's shown us how to be 
    humanitarian.
    He knows that we're neither
    Trojans nor fools.
    
    
    Bob asked us, long ago
    (665 - check it out),
    for a "smart alecky"
    ultimate line.
    Dear Mrs Crippen said,
    unhesitatingly,
    "What did I think of that
    cookie?  Devine!"
    
    
    Closer to home, Knowles did
    Higgledy-counting and 
    asked us to ponder his
    artistic bent.
    Don't tell him...I think he's
    "supernumerical"
    ("adds up to something", I
    think that word meant).
    
    
    Over in Ireland, the 
    people of Limerick
    set up a football team,
    played for the cup.
    Failed.  But the notes from that
    municipality
    made sure a Reckard was
    truly set up.
    
    
    Little Miss Keating is
    bound to be burdened with
    names which read backwards and
    forwards the same.
    How would you like it if,
    involuntarily,
    you were called Otto?
    Make Hannah her name!
    
    
    Three cheers for Bonnie and
    yippee! for Haldane while, 
    down in Odixie, it's
    Cheers! to young Rick
    (he who lays claim to a
    duopaternity).
    Try for a girl now, and
    then you should stick!
    
    
    Hail Cousin Barnett, our
    deus ex machina,
    upholding law out in
    Washington State.
    What a creation was
    "endoPOboxical"!
    What a warped mind!  But your 
    talent is great.
    
    
    Now to young Jodie, our
    "earlie begetter" who
    to just around things turned
    prove that she can.
    world the gave was, it she,
    "polymerizable",
    at grepshot some firing
    her father, Dan.
    
    
    Finally, sadly, with
    love and humility,
    captain, my captain, a
    farewell to thee.
    Sure, you talk bull but it's
    incontrovertible -
    you have been mentor to
    Polly and me.
    
    
    Go for it Kalikow!
    Make the world know your name
    I know your wordplay could
    work for you, Dan.
    Be just like Digital - 
    entrepreneurial.
    Wield the pen mightily.
    Be what you can!
    
    
    
    Higgledy Piggledy
    I must be leaving now.
    Just a few moments, then 
    they'll switch me off.
    Hail! from this Joyoflex
    valedictorian.
    Joy to you all and
    
    
    
    
    
    

    Nothin' much happenin' around the office today, and I got to talking
    with Pam Levine about Higgledy-Piggledies...  Apparently this string
    was not their first appearance in DEC...  So I'm off to explore this
    new treasure-trove...  Happy Christmas, Jolly Solstice, Feliz Hanukkah,
    and Merry New Year to all.  Cheers, Dan
                 <<< FOO::DUA0:[NOTES$LIBRARY]TRIVIA.NOTE;3 >>>
                       -< Triviality is its own reward >-
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VAXWRK::LEVINE                                       50 lines  20-AUG-1982 11:28
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You have hit on one of my favorite things in the world.  A double dactyl (or
higgledy piggledy) is a poem composed of two stanzas.  Each stanza has four
lines and each line is two dactyls, except for the last line of each stanza
which is a single dactyl and then one more syllable.  The first line is
typically a nonsense word, the second line is a person's name.  The second line
of the second stanza is one word.  And the last line of the first and second
stanza must rhyme.  I have a friend who regularly composes them and the New
York Magazine competition every few years takes submissions.  Herewith, some
favorites:                                 


Higgledy Piggledy		|	Higgledy Piggledy
Sergei Diaghelev		|	Catherine of Arragon
Showed the Parisians a		|	Thought separation a
Primeval fling.			|	Terrible sin.
				|
We call the subsequent		|	Said to King Henry with
Incomprehensible		|	Irritability,
Uproar, "Stravinsky's		|	"Drop dead, you Anglican.
The Riot of Spring."		|	Take Anne Boleyn."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Higgledy Piggledy		|	Higgledy Piggledy
Henry Plantagenet		|	Soren O. Kirkegaard
Conquered at Agincourt		|	Writing a treatise on
Held France in thrall.		|	Forms of despair.
				|
Then Charles the Dauphin said,	|	Pitied the masses who
Epigrammatically,		|	Unexistentially,
"One thing for Henry, he	|	Hadn't been through it and
Really has gall."		|	Didn't much care.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Pattycake Pattycake		|	Labelly Shmabelly
Brigham of Deseret		|	Gloria Vanderbilt
Said when his host offered	|	Doodled some denim (her
Shellfish and squab,		|	Name lent them class).
				|
"Thanks, but my wives are so	|	Now she can bank on the
Philoprogenitive.		|	Entrepreneurial
I'll just have oysters then	|	Pleasure of reading her
Back to the job."		|	Name on your jeans.


Get the idea?

psl

    Polytics follytics
    George Herbert Walker Bush
    Geopolitically
    Always stands tall.
    
    Says William D. Clinton,	or	Says William D. Clinton
    "Econometrically,		    	Hyperpyretically,
    The state of this country	    	"Daniel Potatoe		
    Is his downfall."		    	Is his downfall."

    Explanation of the following:  Jodie (still working at Oracle) just got
    married last May.  Her cousin Barnett (whose hig-pigs have appeared
    several times in this very string (and who is still working in the
    wilds of Oregon as something like an Attorney General) sent her and her
    hubby a wedding present.  Jodie felt that -- after a Summer of
    honeymoon, moving apartments, and beginning the grad-school career of
    her hubby, the only proper coin in which she could write the
    long-delayed obligatory thank-you-note was an Hig-Pig.  Enjoy...

    
     	Higgledy Piggledy 
	Messed up chaotically, 
	Summer nonstop we've been 
	moving about. 
	Finally, an instant to 
	rest, breathe, reflect, and get 
	post-matrimonial 
	thank-you notes out! 

     
		Crockery coffeepot, 
		Earthenware coffeecups, 
    		Classical shape is the best: 
		short and stout. 
		Gift from my favorite 
		psychoceramicist -- 
		Coffee and poetry 
		equally spout! 
 
 
	-- Jodie                                                    

    Re: psychoceramicist
    
    Pottery thrown as if by an occult hand?

    No, "psychoceramicist" in honor of a legendary faculty member at Brown
    U., my graduate alma mater.  Josiah Carberry, Ph.D., Adjunct Associate
    Professor of Psychoceramics, and renowned crackpot.  One apparently
    passes such deeply moving r�le models along to one's progeny.
    
    Carberry was continually said to have been seen wandering about the
    campus, but every time the Daily Brunonian sent their photographer
    after a snapshot, it was as if an occult hand had wiped him from life's
    stage.  Curious, that...
    

    Hmmm.  The best MIT can do is Norbert Weiner, a visible legend in his
    own time and occult only to those trying to understand his lectures.

    .74
    
    "...and occult only to those trying to understand his lectures ..."
    
        and occult FIGURE to those who DID understand 'em...
    
    (Oops sorry, this isn't a pun-o-centric note, is it... :-)
    
    (Hmmm.  I suppose you COULD claim this to have been half your original
    point in .74, in which case sorry for belaboring it...)
    

    A bounty of one (1) Official JoyOfLex Kudo to the first denizen who
    creates a hig-pig with "lexicographically" in the seat of honor.
    
    (though I suspect that the late-of-DEC Brian Patman (DOOZER::VTX,
    DUCK::CLEARING_HSE) may have put one in here before leaving this file)
    
    Let the timer begin ticking!
    tick...
    
    	tick...
    
    		tick...   :-)
    

    Schmiggeldy Piggeldy
    Daniel Kalikow
    Issued a summons that
    Had us all vexed.
    Now it is met by the
    Self-referentially
    Lexicological		(close enough?)
    End of this text.

    Higgledy Piggledy,
    Notesfile of JOYOFLEX --
    	Open to DECcies
    	the whole planet o'er.
    Etymological,
    Lexicographical,
    Epigrammatical fun is in store!
    

    "Dan-i-el Kal-i-kow" has 6 syllables (when pushed), and 
    
    "Tho-mas Dou-ble-You Eg-gers" has 7...  "Tho-mas Eg-gers" only 4...
    
    Best I can do is "Eg-gers of COO-KIE::" but I'm too proud to use
    that... :-)
    
    Unfair advantage, sez I.  I will ruminate.  Boustrophedonically...
    

    Higgeldy Piggeldy
    Daniel Kalikow--
    Political Webster
    Shared his first name.
    His parents, confused, chose
    Daniel, not Noah, the
    Lexicographical
    Webster of fame.

    Re .76
    >A bounty of one (1) Official JoyOfLex Kudo
    
    For shame, for shame.  One official joyofleck kudos is still a kudos.

    Re: .-1

    For the differently humored, the humor was in the intentionally
    incorrect usage.  So, for penance, you're now required to explain the
    correct usage in a hig pig.  Sounds like a good place to work in
    lexocographical.

    Re: .76
    
    	Higgledy Piggledy
    	Jon Morris nervously
    	Takes up the challenge and
    	Takes up his pen
    	If he succeeds and gets
    	Subcutanealized			(with apology for the metre)
    	Lexicographically,		(pronounced lexicographic'ly %-{ )
    	What happens then?					 ^
    						does it still count?
	What of the future, oh
    	Doyens of OED?
    	Will the new version con-
    	Tain the new word?
    	Will we be able to
    	See it on VDU
    	Compact-discography?
    	Don't be absurd!
    	
    	Why would the diction'ry
    	First in my library
    	Recognise my verb, so
    	Gross and obscure?
    	Let's keep our language, our
    	Culture's inheritance,
    	Etymologically
    	Perfect and pure.
    	
    
    (Note - with spologies to anybody who doesn't recognise the OED as the
    _only_ authority!)
    
    Jon

    <<< Note 788.84 by KERNEL::MORRIS "Which universe did you dial?" >>>
    
    "spologies" ?
    
    That's not in my dictionary, care to elaborate?
    
    Jon (another one)
    
    
    

    Honeatly,  aome people csn be ao pedsntic aomtimea.

    Jon_intermittent_keyboard_dyslexia_sufferer_Morris
    
    p.s. but are you a -thon or a -than?

    (Gotta drum up bizniss, ya know... If that note flops, I'm likely not
    to get one single kudo!)
    
    (Question:  After you study judo, are the various maneuvers you've
    learned collectively called judos?  No?  I rest my case!)
    
    :-)
    

    Jon,
    
    ...than (or...athan to be precise), changed it years ago, cos I thought
    it was a bit of a wimpish name!
    
    Jon

    I came across this in a book of dinosaur poems for children, and
    thought there was something vaguely familiar about the rhyme scheme:
    
    	Leptopterygius lived in the ocean,
    	Leptopterygius swam very fast.
    	Its head was enormous, its fangs were abundant,
    	its temper ferocious, its appetite vast.
    
    	Leptopoterygius, big as a city bus,
    	was an insatiable ichthyosaur.
    	Anything captured by Leptopterygius
    	never was seen in the sea anymore.
    
    	Leptopterygius ate every morsel
    	it managed to catch in the long-ago sea,
    	so I am grateful that Leptopterygius
    	isn't around to go swimming with me.
    
    		- From "Tyrannosaurus was a beast,"
    		by Jack Prelutsky
    
    [I liked the rest of the poems, too, but the others didn't remind me of
    hig-pigs... Ogden Nash, maybe, but not hig-pigs.]
    
    -b

    A friend walked past my cubie a few minutes ago, while I was madly
    dashing off more text for our upcoming launch website of DIGITAL's
    Internet SW Business Unit based upon the AltaVista brand.  He dropped
    off an actual piece of cellulose with printing thereon!!  I idly
    wondered what this artifact might be, and laid it aside till my first
    draft was done.
    
    I just picked it up.  Pardon the abbreviations that I'll impose on it,
    but as I have no OCR I will be entering this via fingerpower.  But Oh
    my, is it worth it!!
    ======================================================================
    TELEFAX
    SCHWEIZERISCHE KREDITANSTALT
    CREDIT SUISSE CREDITO SVIZZERO
    LONDON
    
    To: Internet Software Business Unit           Sender:  Brian Patman
                                                     Head of Training & Mgmt
                                                     Development
                                                     Credit Suisse
    Attention: Dan Kalikow                        TELEFAX-No. 171 xxxxxxxx
    Telefax-No. 9001 5084862851                   Tel-No.  xxxxxxxxxxx
    Re:	Deja Vu                                   Number of Pg (incl. this) 1
    
    Date:  25-Apr-1996 (so it'd been sitting in our FAX dump for 5 days)
    
    On Thursday morning while surfing the Internet,
    I was struck down by a bolt from the blue.
    Nothing too harmful, just
    ULTRASENSATIONAL!
    Dan Kalikow, I was looking at you!
    
    
    Greetings Dan!
    
    I left Lloyds two years ago to become Head of Training and Management
    Development for Credit Suisse, the largest Swiss bank.  I run a team
    providing consultancy, advice and flexible learning solutions for our
    people throughout Europe.
    
    I am one of seven pioneers in the Bank just testing out the Internet to
    see if we want to buy in.  Of course, my first move was to zap "Dan
    Kalikow" into Alta Vista and, lo and behold, I'm looking at pictures of
    you and your family!  Congratulations!  You must, as ever, be very
    proud of them.
    
    I'll give you my comments on "The Eternal Concerto" at a later date.
    
    Sadly, as I'm a guinea pig, I have no e-mail facility yet.  Hence the
    FAX -- I hope you can cope with paper...
    
    THEBAY::JOYOFLEX is a fond memory.  Any websites you would recommend to
    rekindle the passion?
    
    From me and mine to you and yours, all the very best.
    
    /s/ Brian
    ======================================================================
    

By Dorothy Parker

Higgeldy piggledy, my white hen,
She lays eggs for gentlemen.
You cannot persuade her with gun or lariat
To come across for the proletariat.

    Re .-1
    
    Sorry, but including the pseudo-words "Higgledy piggledy" and
    calling it a higgledy piggledy doesn't make it one.  There are
    essentially two syntactic rules plus some other constraints that
    are neither syntactic nor semantic, and examples of prior art
    abound in this library.
    
    -- Norman Diamond

    So quoth the master of Limerick scansion.
    
    :-)
    
    (but we love ya anyways, Norman you ole curmudgeon you...)
    

    
  .93  Daniel! 8-)

	hello, dear.