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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

575.0. ""to dial" vs "to ??"" by EAGLE1::EGGERS (Tom,293-5358,VAX&MIPS Architecture) Mon Oct 24 1988 13:53

    When people use a telephone with a rotary dial, they "dial" a telephone
    number. 
    
    What do they do on a telephone that has no dial but rather a number pad
    that sends tones? Do they still "dial" the number? Or "tone" the
    number? Or "intone" the number? I have heard "feep" (feeped, feeped)
    used as a verb by hackers as an onomatopoetic representation of the
    signal tones. 
    
    "Touchtone" is a registered trademark of the phone company. Perhaps one
    "touches" a number, as in "Reach out and touch someone."
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575.1how about 'digi-dialled' ???EGAV01::DKEATINGRoamin' Cadillac Church SAVESMon Oct 24 1988 14:571
    
575.2It's only the shape that's wrong.VISA::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseMon Oct 24 1988 21:554
    	Dictionary consultation suggests that "dial" is a ring, disk,
    or circular arrangement of figures. Maybe the answer is just to
    move the buttons out of that silly square arrangement, and then
    we can continue dialing, even with buttons.
575.3AITG::DERAMODaniel V. {AITG,LISP,ZFC}:: D'EramoMon Oct 24 1988 22:261
    call, reach, get, ring, ...
575.4Punch?AYOV27::ISMITHConsidering a move to MemphisTue Oct 25 1988 09:094
    Just to add to the confusion, what do the things (e.g. modems) that
    'dial' numbers automatically do??
    
    Ian.
575.5punch out that phoneMISFIT::GEMMELand now here's Mac and Tosh...Tue Oct 25 1988 14:478
    Using the old button pushing description of "hitting" keys - you
    could always "punch out the number".
    
    After we figure out the regular "dial" vs "??" can we move to the
    memory phones which do all the work for you?
    
    Just asking,
    Steve
575.6punch those tonesEAGLE1::EGGERSTom,293-5358,VAX&MIPS ArchitectureTue Oct 25 1988 15:465
    The manual for my DF2400-AA modem, Digital's Scholar (tm) modem, says
    it has an "Advanced Automatic Dialer (Autodialer)".
    
    It also says, "'P' indicates pulse dialing of the digits that follow.
    'T' indicates tone dialing of the digits that follow."
575.7You gotta have a score card.SEAPEN::PHIPPSMaybe her subroutines need debuggingTue Oct 25 1988 17:513
        All of these are initating a telephone line transaction using
        the appropriate method for the device used.

575.8It's a verb, not a parts listCLOSET::T_PARMENTERTongue in cheek, fist in air!Tue Oct 25 1988 20:466
    Definition:
    
    dial: initating a telephone line transaction using
        the appropriate method for the device used.
                         
    It's called a "figure of speech", folks. 
575.9grab for the ringMARKER::KALLISAnger's no replacement for reasonTue Oct 25 1988 21:106
    ...
    To "ring up" is to establish a telephonic connection; 
    
    to "ring off" is to terminate one such.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
575.10Matter of PerspectiveSEAPEN::PHIPPSMaybe her subroutines need debuggingTue Oct 25 1988 22:527
        It meant something quite different when you told a young lady
        you would give her a ring some day.

        I know of a case where he meant phone call and she had
        something entirely different in mind.


575.11EAGLE1::EGGERSTom,293-5358,VAX&MIPS ArchitectureWed Oct 26 1988 00:041
    I guess "punch your number" could have a similar misinterpretation.
575.12tap your interupt driven devices access code!LAMHRA::WHORLOWPrussiking up the rope of life!Wed Oct 26 1988 00:1419
    G'day,
    
    If dial is having a new connotation (I'll punch your dial) the ring
    up and ring off have changed too. They are hang-overs from the days
    of manual exchanges and party lines when you rang up to use the
    line and then rang off to tell every one you had finished. Long
    gone technology, but he phrases linger on.
    
    About touch dialing on a round button set - yuck really hard 'cos
    the fingers want to rotate the dial but have to move around to each
    number instead.
    
    Though it could be that the first one I used was in New Zealand
    where the numbers on the phone dial are frack to bunt - reading
    from longest dial point they go 0123456789 so 999 is the quickest
    number to dial!
    
    Derek
    
575.13DIAL me upCLO::FORNERHave you hugged your VAX today?Thu Oct 27 1988 14:2312
    re: .8
    
    	Jeez, and I thought this
    
    	D igital's
    	I dle
    	A ssets
    	L isting
    
    	Oh well, learn somthing  new everyday.
    
    /p
575.14say watt?NYSSA::BIELSKILet's Digitize...Thu Oct 27 1988 16:517
    
    So now I have to worry about what kind of device on the other end
    alerts the called party that I have dialed/punched them?  No more
    "will give you a buzz" until I am familiar with their innermost
    sanctum?
    
    Gottago, I'm agettin buzzed....
575.15Crank me up!SEINE::RAINVILLETrace this call, where am I!Fri Oct 28 1988 00:5011
    I grew up in the boonies with a magneto-phone, we didn't 'crank'
    each other up as I remember, but often we'd ask the (human)
    operator to 'ring' someone, and she'd say "Oh, the're visiting
    the Gleason farm, I'll ring them there."
    
    On "VE" day when the operator received news of the WWII allied
    victory in Europe, her son went outside to fire a few shotgun
    blasts in the air to alert the village.  Not aiming, he managed
    to blow the phone trunk right off the pole.  Lit up the switch-
    board real good.  Anybody got a word for that action???...MWR
    
575.16Tell if any -> Telephoney (?)MISFIT::GEMMELand now here's Mac and Tosh...Fri Oct 28 1988 21:088
    Sounds to me like that would be :
    
    	Giving a blast on the phone - - 
    
    I might reference a Heinlein short story (the title escapes me at
    the moment) in which the actual phase was something like :
    
    	"I'll give you a blast on the horn when I gits inta town"
575.17HWSSS0::SZETOstill unlicensed noterSat Oct 29 1988 04:238
.12>About touch dialing on a round button set - yuck really hard 'cos
.12>the fingers want to rotate the dial but have to move around to each
.12>number instead.
    
    Nah, nuthin' to it.  One of my phones at home is like that.
    
  --Simon
    
575.18It's all too confusing!GIDDAY::PARSONSSo many notes, so little time.....Tue Nov 01 1988 03:212
    Do we really have to worry about the methods used to establish the
    links? Can't we just "'phone" or "contact" somebody or something?
575.19Mais ouiAYOV27::ISMITHHere's one I prepared earlier.Tue Nov 01 1988 09:1510
.18�< Note 575.18 by GIDDAY::PARSONS "So many notes, so little time....." >
.18�                          -< It's all too confusing! >-
.18�
.18�    Do we really have to worry about the methods used to establish the
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    
    Of course!!  If we don't, who will?  Indeed, who needs to?
    
    Ian.
    
575.20It's all in the (r)evolution.DSSDEV::STONERoyTue Nov 01 1988 19:5611
    I suspect that people will be 'dialing' touchtone phones for quite
    some time without even thinking that the term evolved from the rotary
    pulse generator mechanism.  To draw an analogy, consider everyone
    who 'drives' an automobile...people used to 'drive' oxen or horses
    in order to get them to pull a wagon or whatever, and the term was
    carried over into the operation of self-propelled vehicles.  Now, an 
    automobile is more properly 'driven' by its engine and and is 
    'operated' by a person at the controls (the 'driver'???).
    However, our dictionaries give one definition of 'drive' as "to
    operate (a vehicle)" so the term is generally accepted without thinking
    about its evolution from the times of animal-powered conveyances.
575.21More nonsense.GIDDAY::PARSONSSo many notes, so little time.....Wed Nov 02 1988 07:312
    When I fly to London, I always arrive wondering why my arms aren't
    tired.
575.22Auto; put it another way.45466::RANDALLThu Nov 03 1988 15:267
    
    
    So if I instruct my computer to ring up your car phone...it ought to
    auto Autodial ????
    
    Mike Randall
    
575.23ri-ri-ri-ridiculousEAGLE1::EGGERSTom, VAX &amp; MIPS ArchitectureThu Nov 03 1988 15:465
    Right. And if he has two cars, only one of which has an automatic
    transmission, then your computer ought to 
    
				auto auto autodial.
    
575.24TKOV51::DIAMONDThis note is illegal tender.Fri Apr 13 1990 09:3716
    Re .23
    
>   Right. And if he has two cars, only one of which has an automatic
>   transmission, then your computer
>    ought to 
>			auto auto autodial.
    
    And if his name is Otto .........
    
    
    
    Re .0
    
>   "Reach out and touch some one".
    
    Still doesn't explain how you hit the OTHER numbers, does it?