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Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

535.0. "Names of inhabitants of locations" by CSOA1::ROTH (Hey Moe... what's a VAX?) Thu Jun 23 1988 19:16

I've pondered this for ages... hope you experts come forward. If this is
already covered in another note, forgive me.. couldn't find it with a DIR/TIT.

What are the rules for selecting the name that refers to the inhabitants of a
particular location? i.e. Why is someone from Boston a "Bostonian" instead of
a "Bostonite"? Is there a more correct term for this type of naming?

For instance, what do they call the citizens of the following:

Worcester (MA)

Wooster   (OH)  !This is the correct spelling, not the perverse MA spelling ;^)

Detroit   (MI)

Gettysburg (PA)

New Orleans (LA)

Thanks-

Lee (An Ohioian- I'm at least sure of that.)
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535.1Another strange oneTLE::SAVAGENeil, @Spit BrookThu Jun 23 1988 19:211
    Exonian -- a native of Exeter (NH)
535.2reversalsDOODAH::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanThu Jun 23 1988 19:277
    I don't know if there is a rule.  I was born a Bozemanite and a
    Montanan.  Now I'm a Nashuan and a New Hampshirite. 
    
    My father used to refer to the residents of Seattle as
    Seattle-ites. 

    --bonnie
535.3RUTLND::SATOWThu Jun 23 1988 21:359
    Inhabitant of Crete, Nebraska:
    
    	Cretin
    
    Person who moves out of Crete, Nebraska
    
    	Excretin
    
    Clay
535.4ERIS::CALLASWaiter, there's a bug in my codeThu Jun 23 1988 21:464
    Residents of Charlotte, North Carolina are Charlottans. Residents
    of Baltimore are Baltimorans.
    
    	Jon
535.5Massachusettsian?ME::TRUMPLERI juggle tectonic platesThu Jun 23 1988 22:3210
    A recent Smithsonian magazine had a short article on this subject.
    Residents of Connecticut ended up being called
    
    commuters.
    
    Inhabitants of Los Angeles are called Angelenos.
    Inhabitants of Syracuse (NY) are called Syracusans (or Orangemen,
    	if they're students at the university).
    
    >M
535.6It depends on whether or not you live there.GRNDAD::STONERoyThu Jun 23 1988 23:0414
    Re: .5  -< Massachusettsian? >-
    
    No, he's a Bay Stater!
    
    
    Residents of Maine are often referred to as Maniacs, but the natives
    prefer to be called Mainians instead (spoilsports!!).
    
    
    
    Re: Worcester, MA vs. Wooster, OH  - They aren't even pronounced the
        same anyway, even though furriners sometimes think they are.  I
        guess the people in Ohio decided that since they couldn't pronounce
        it right they might as well spell it as best they could.
535.7From a DECalogueSSDEVO::GOLDSTEINFri Jun 24 1988 02:0915
    I like Clay's attitude in .3.  The British seem much more creative
    with Glaswegians and Liverpudlians.  It was bad enough having been
    a Californ-ee-ann and a Palo Alt-ann, now I am a Colorad-ann.  How
    boring.  I'm sure the particpants in this conference can do much
    better.  Here a few to start:
    
    Hilotider
    Omahagotchya
    Kankakeeholer
    
    and even Coloradodo
    
    Any others?
    
    Bernie
535.8a real oneQUOKKA::SNYDERWherever you go, there you areFri Jun 24 1988 02:274
    Sydneysider
    
    Sid(ney) Snyder
535.9AKOV11::BOYAJIANIt&#039;s a dream I haveFri Jun 24 1988 10:085
    I prefer to think of someone from New Hampshire as being a
    New Hampster. And someone from Rhode Island as being a Rhodent.
    (And I'm tempted to call someone from Vermont a Vermin :-).)
    
    --- jerry
535.10smirk, smirkNEARLY::GOODENOUGHJeff Goodenough, IPG Reading UKFri Jun 24 1988 12:584
    OK - hands up all those who know the original Latin name of their
    home town ...
    
    Jeff :-)
535.11Now I got youYIPPEE::LIRONFri Jun 24 1988 14:155
	re .-1
    
    	Valbonne: from 'vallis bona', good valley.

    	roger 
535.12sick of it allDOODAH::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanFri Jun 24 1988 15:027
    If we're being creative here, and since local wits refer to Nashua
    as Nausea, I guess you could say I'm Nauseaous.
    
    --bonnie

    p.s. re: .9 -- I always thought someone from Vermont was a Varmint? 
535.13MEMV01::TROYFri Jun 24 1988 18:3510
    Re: .4
    
    I thought residents of Baltimore were called Balmorans (at least
    that's how they say it!).
    
    Re: .9
    
    Residents of Vermont are called Vermonsters.
    
    Karen (a confirmed Actonian Bay Stater)
535.14... If you were from D.C. ? ...CURIUS::CIUFFINIIf my Personal Name were a song, it Fri Jun 24 1988 18:425
    
    Thankfully, from Newton I'm a Newtonite and not a Newtonian. 
    ( But, I do subscribe to his laws - quite faithfully I must
      admit. )
    jc
535.15DANUBE::B_REINKEwhere the sidewalk endsFri Jun 24 1988 19:391
    I always thought that Maniacs were Down Easters
535.16ERIS::CALLASWaiter, there&#039;s a bug in my codeFri Jun 24 1988 21:056
    It doesn't matter how much of "Baltimorans" you elide, as long as you
    leave the moron at the end. I heard the natives pronounce it that way
    first, so I figure that it, like "Bawlmr" and "Murrilund," must be
    correct. :-) 
    
    	Jon ex-Marylander
535.17?VENICE::SKELLYSat Jun 25 1988 07:416
    I was born a Utican, a kind of New Yorker, and now, I'm an Irvinite,
    a kind of Californian. Since people from Boston are called Bostonians
    and people from Massachusetts are called weirdos, I'd guess there
    is no rule and it's simply what sounds good.
    
    Is what sounds good in a language called "sonority" by linguists?
535.18Frankfurters are not necessarily the wurst.DELNI::CANTORDave C.Sat Jun 25 1988 17:1321
      I'm a native Massachusettsian or is it Massachusettsite?  I
      was born in Everett, and as a kid, I wanted to say that I was
      an Everettian (pronounced ev'ree-shun), but there is one too
      many ("one, two, many") T's.  Maybe the word is Everettite.
      We just said "I'm from Everett [pronounced ev'rut].  Wanna
      make somethin' of it?".
      
      We moved to Lynn, but I never heard a term for a resident of
      that city.  I guess we were Lynnians.
      
      I was stationed at Fort Jackson, South Carolina for a while.
      People who live there are called soldiers.
      
      Later on, I moved back to Mass. and became a Winthropian and
      an Arlingtonian.   Still later, as a San Diegan, I learned
      that being a Californicator is not against the law.
      
      Still later, I moved back to Mass. again, and became a Walthamite,
      a Lowellian, and now I'm a North Reader.
      
      Dave C.
535.19euphonyDELNI::CANTORDave C.Sat Jun 25 1988 17:169
      Re .17
      
>    Is what sounds good in a language called "sonority" by linguists?

      My high school French teacher called it 'euphony,' but she
      may have been talking about the lame excuse someone gave for
      not turning in their homework.
      
      Dave C.
535.20SSDEVO::GOLDSTEINSat Jun 25 1988 22:484
    I recently encountered some tourists from Alaska.  I think they
    were all Nomedeplumers.
    
    Bernie
535.21Random additionsMARVIN::KNOWLESAnother day, another document.Mon Jun 27 1988 15:1331
    Re: .10
    
    Cinch.  Londinium - one of the very few town-names I know the Latin
    for, as it came up in Ast�rix chez les Bretons.
    
    People from London are called Londoners, tho' I may have come across
    the term `Londinensian' somewhere.
    
    Posh schools favour fancy names:
    
    	Harrow - Old Harrovian
    	Eton - Old Etonian
    	Salisbury - Old Salopian (I think)
    	Winchester - Wykehamist
    	Stowe - Stoic
    
    There must be more. Upwardly-mobile schools do the same sort of trick,
    but I suspect it's only for show: 
    
    	Ealing (to which I _didn't_ go, tho' it was 10 mins walk away
    	from my home at the time)
    		- Old Ealonian
    
    	Reading
    		- Old Redingensian (I think)

    People from Glasgow are Glaswegians...  
    
    I can't make out any rhyme or reason to it. 

    b
535.22I'll have mine medium rareHOMSIC::DUDEKIt&#039;s a Bowser eat Bowser worldMon Jun 27 1988 19:259
    Here in Schaumburg, Illinois, we call the natives Schaumburgers.
    (We also refer to this little grotto as "Scumburg", but that's another
    story.)
    
    I'm from Wheaton; they always called us Wheatonites.  Now I live
    in Willow Springs.  Anyone have any hot ideas?  
    Willow Springer (spaniel)?
    
    Spd
535.23I believe what I readGAOV11::MAXPROG6If you can&#039;t beat &#039;em .. join &#039;emTue Jun 28 1988 15:475
    
    I'm from England .... so I'm a 'rampaging yobbo' .
            
    John J
    
535.24DELNI::SILKserving timeTue Jun 28 1988 19:549
    I live in Cambridge, where the residents are Cantabridgians... which
    is why I spell everything out.  But I was born in Michigan, home
    of the Michiganders...sexist, huh?  They could just as well have
    called themselves Michigeese, which is like a root word of what my family
    called ourselves, Michuganahs. 
    
    By the way, I thought people from Maine called themselves Mainers.
    
    Nina    
535.25Hey, I only live here. I'm not on the team!GOLD::OPPELTHDMAMMF?Tue Jun 28 1988 22:545
    
    	I've heard that people from Massachusetts could be called
    	Massholes.
    
    	Joe Oppelt
535.26CestriansCOMICS::DEMORGANRichard De Morgan, UK CSC/CSWed Jun 29 1988 10:531
    People from Chester, the Roman town in England, are called Cestrians.
535.27More -niansMARVIN::KNOWLESAnother day, another document.Wed Jun 29 1988 15:216
    ...but people from Manchester are Mancunians.
    
    Recent replies to 396 have reminded me of another one: Aberdeen
    => Aberdonian.
    
    b
535.28 Are people for Witchita called Witches ?GAO::DKEATINGReminiscing about tomorrowThu Jun 30 1988 13:526
    
    Galway...Galwegian...'herring-choker' (slang/insult)
    Dublin...Dubliner...'jackeen' (sl/ins)
    Cork.....Corkonian or Leesider.
    
    - Dave K.
535.29Berkshire HillBillySEINE::RAINVILLEMore fun than juggling cats!Wed Jul 06 1988 06:584
    Being from Heath, we were simply 'Heathens', next to Rowe, populated
    by Romans, but what did we call people from Charlemont and Shelburne
    Falls?, Why, Flatlanders, of course...MWR
    
535.30A bit from Oz.GIDDAY::PARSONSSo many notes, so little time.....Tue Jul 26 1988 11:466
    In Aussie, people from the state of New South Wales are New South
    Welshmen (no, it didn't go to New South Welshperson!) and the people
    of Newcastle (in the same state) are Novocastrians. Latin, for those
    who didn't recognise it. Who said all Aussies are beer-swilling,
    crocodile-wrestling larrikins ?  There's a faint smear of culture
    here!                               Regards   Guy
535.31Ouch! Where's your sense of humour? :-)NEARLY::GOODENOUGHJeff Goodenough, IED/Reading UKTue Jul 26 1988 15:228
    > ... the people of Newcastle (in the same state) are Novocastrians.
    > Latin, for those who didn't recognise it. Who said all Aussies are
    > beer-swilling, crocodile-wrestling larrikins ?

    Me.  You just took it straight from the English usage.  It doesn't mean
    you understood it :-) :-) :-)
    
    Jeff.
535.32The only live culture, downunder!LAMHRA::WHORLOWAbseiling is a real let-down!Wed Jul 27 1988 02:5411
    G'day,
    
    Don't you worry, Jeff. He dropped his yogurt. It's the only smear
    of culture he gets!
    
    
    :-)
    
    djw
    
    
535.33AKOV11::BOYAJIANCopyright � 1953Wed Jul 27 1988 09:488
    �Who said all Aussies are beer-swilling, crocodile-wrestling
    larrikins ?�
    
    I can't imagine why anyone would say that. After all, I'm sure
    that at least some of you are beer-swilling dingo-wrestling
    larrikins.
    
    --- jerry
535.34THEONE::PARSONSSo many notes, so little time.....Wed Jul 27 1988 09:522
    Help! Calling all Aussies!
    We need a collective smart-*** reply for these unfortunate non-Aussies.
535.35a sample answerHAMPS::HILLTechnology Consultant - sometimesWed Jul 27 1988 14:4810
    Surely the answer for you to give all non-Aussies is an expression
    of sadness or commiseration that the rest of the world aren't members
    of the chosen race.
    
    Still it was the race chosen by the highest officers of the English
    judiciary.

    Sorry but I like cheap jokes!!
    
    Nick :-)  
535.36naw, keep 'em in the darkDOODAH::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanWed Jul 27 1988 15:238
    I'm not going to correct their ignornace. I spent three weeks in
    Australia savoring Australian wines, Australian cooking both
    gourmet and plain, and in general enjoying an experience that was
    as close to heaven as I expect to come in this life. But I'm
    afraid that if they find out the truth, they'll all want to go
    there, and they'll ruin it for the rest of us. 
    
    --bonnie
535.37BUNYIP::QUODLINGAnything! Just play it loud!Fri Jul 29 1988 10:445
        in the light of .36, I would say that a large number of
        Australians are just plain hedonists...
        
        q
        
535.38THEONE::PARSONSSo many notes, so little time.....Fri Jul 29 1988 10:533
    Or is that "a number of large Australians are just plain hedonists..."?
    
    :-)
535.39Hedonists?..Nope!GIDDAY::VISSERSun Jul 31 1988 10:395
    Having just moved to Australia from New Zealand, I would have to
    sy that Australians aren't hedonists, merely Americans in training!
    
    	Klaas
    
535.40BUNYIP::QUODLINGAnything! Just play it loud!Fri Aug 05 1988 06:5315
        re .38
        
        I resemble that remark.
        
        re .39
        
        New Zealand, where if you ask for spicy food in a restaurant,
        they bring out the salt and pepper. Where many vineyards have
        closed down over the last few years, Where the restaurants
        close at some early hour...
        
        sigh....
        
        q
        
535.41not what one might expectERICG::ERICGEric GoldsteinThu Jun 08 1989 17:185
Back in college, I knew a fellow who grew up in or near the town of
Maxico, New York.  He claimed that people from there would be offended if
referred to as Mexicans; the correct term for them is Mexicanians, pronounced
"mex-i-KAY-nee-ins".  Similarly, the term for people from the town of
Cuba, New York, is pronounced "kyoo-BAY-nee-ins".
535.42TKOV51::DIAMONDThis note is illegal tender.Mon Apr 09 1990 04:4712
    Re .41
    
    > the term for people from the town of
    > Cuba, New York, is pronounced "kyo-BAY-nee-ins".
    
    Not Cubists?
    
    I refer to Waterloo graduates as Waterloonatics, but for some reason
    no one else does.
    
    Hmm, in India, I should have asked if the natives were called Americans.
    Forgot to ask.