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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

478.0. "THERE/THEIR HEAR/HERE TO/TOO/TWO" by STUBBI::S_LECLAIR () Mon Feb 08 1988 21:57

    
    
    If I see one more memo or mail message misusing THERE and THEIR,
    I think I shall screem.  Another two are HERE and HEAR.  And then,
    of course, there is TO, TOO, and TWO.  Correct usage for these words
    follows:
    
    There is a meeting in ten minutes.
    Their meeting has been cancelled.
    Here are the figures that you requested.
    Did you hear me?
    I am going to screem!
    He is going to screem, too.
    That makes two of us.
    
    Perhaps these words have been discussed in this notes file before
    this, but I just felt the need to speak up.
    
    Sue
    
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478.1Well, *someone* has to do it... :-)ZYMRGY::LAMBERTAnother day, another '$ ' promptMon Feb 08 1988 22:0416
re: .0

  >  I think I shall screem.  
	.
	.
	.
  > I am going to screem!
  > He is going to screem, too.

   If I see one more person around here mis-spell the word 'scream' I think
   I shall.


   (Many, many :-)'s)

   -- Sam
478.2sighTERZA::ZANEunique to one, common to allTue Feb 09 1988 00:3912
   Somebody ought to (oughtta) start a collection.  I wait at my terminal
   impatiently every day for a new memo from Facilities, so that I have
   a good excuse to break out into paroxysms of laughter.  Today it was,
   "If you have material that is to be scraped, it is your responsibility
   to fill out the proper paperwork..."
   
   How about my windshield on icy mornings?  :^)
   
   
   							Terza
   
478.3I can't bare it.DELNI::CANTORDave C.Tue Feb 09 1988 13:3515
      Re .0
      
      Their/there    also   they're
      
      More. 
      
      Wear/we're
      Bear/bare/beer
      
      Re .1
      
      'Misspell' doesn't need a hyphen.   One can often see that
      word misspelled as 'mispell.'
      
      Dave C.
478.4MetaplasmusKAOA08::CUSUP_LAPLANTue Feb 09 1988 16:239
    re .0
    
    Sue was using metaplasmus to make her point (in case anyone is
    interested) and most effectively at that.
    
    I often use it for one of two reasons:
    
    	1. most people don't know what it means
    	2. it covers my errors even when they know what it means
478.5metaplasmus?RAVEN1::MKENNEDYTue Feb 09 1988 19:062
    
    What is "metaplasmus?"  My office edition doesn't have it.
478.6GENRAL::JHUGHESNOTE, learn, and inwardly digestTue Feb 09 1988 20:099
    re: .-1
    
>   What is "metaplasmus?"  My office edition doesn't have it.
    
    Mine (Webster's New Collegiate) does:
    	metaplasm n 1[L metaplasmus, lit., transformation, fr. Gk
        metaplasmos ...]: alteration of regular structure usually by
    	transposition of the letters or syllables of a word or of the
    	words in a sentence
478.7Oh. Thank you.SEAPEN::PHIPPSSOCK it to ME??!Wed Feb 10 1988 00:380
478.8SCREAM - SCREEEEEAM17442::S_LECLAIRWed Feb 10 1988 16:296
    I am quite aware that I misspelled scream.  Just wanted to see if
    you all were paying attention.  You have to admit; it did grab and
    hold your attention! (at least for a few seconds)
    
    Sue
    
478.9Another metaplasmusJANUS::CROWLEesto quod esse viderisThu Feb 11 1988 13:2812
    Re: Screem - reminds me of a product which used to be sold in the
    UK in the fifties (that dates me, but do I care?). Rejoicing under
    the brand name of Brylcreem, it was (is?) a white, oily grease (John
    Travolta, eat your heart out) intended to be applied to the hair,
    producing those statuesque, shiny hairstyles so characteristic of
    the period. I think the Brylcreem "factory" still exists, adjacent
    to a railway line leading into London...
    
    So a "screem" is a rather slippery "scream" to me - less raucous,
    smoother, melodious even?
    
    -- brian
478.10RE: BrylcreemRAVEN1::MKENNEDYEschew sesquipedalianism!Thu Feb 11 1988 19:471
"A little dab will do ya!"
478.11Re: Brylcreem - LINE 2LAMHRA::WHORLOWProgress:=!(going_backwards>coping)Fri Feb 12 1988 07:244
    
    
    "The girls will love to run their fingers through your hair"
    
478.12AKOV11::BOYAJIAN$50 never killed anybodyFri Feb 12 1988 08:528
    Just as offensive is metaplasm on the part of manufacturers for
    their products. Not for purposes of trademark, but to fool the
    public into thinking it's getting one thing when it's actually
    getting another, without getting caught in a falsehood.
    
    The most obvious example: "creme (or even worse, "kreme") filling".
    
    --- jerry
478.13cooking with Brylcream?COMICS::DEMORGANRichard De Morgan, UK CSC/CSFri Feb 12 1988 09:275
    My "Bored of the Rings" says "[Boggies] ... fondness for dishes cooked
    in Brylcream".
              ^
    Maybe they spelt it differently in the US. I can remember the stuff
    still being around in the UK in the 60s.
478.14hear hear - here here, there there LAMHRA::WHORLOWProgress:=!(going_backwards>coping)Mon Feb 15 1988 00:497
    G'day,
    
    There is still oodles of Brylcream here to buy (or to cook in too)
    for Gentlemen to use on their hair, I hear. If you wish I can ship
    a jar or two too, to you - so There!
    
    Derek
478.15I think we're off the subject!SEAPEN::PHIPPSSOCK it to ME??!Tue Feb 16 1988 00:074
Checked it out Saturday and find you can still buy it by the tube. I Didn't 
look any further so I don't know if it also comes in jars.

        Mike
478.16I'd prefer an abstract alternative...JANUS::CROWLEesto quod esse viderisTue Feb 16 1988 11:127
    RE .14, .15 - Thanks, but no thanks. Have no wish to come into contact
    with the stuff again ...
    
    Now, a jar of Metaplasmus, that would really be something else  ...
    :-)
    
    -- brian
478.17Creative spelling & wordsVOLGA::S_LECLAIRTue Feb 16 1988 20:3113
    
    Re: .13
    < Maybe they spelt it differently in the US.  I can remember the
    
    There is no such word as "spelt".  The word is "spelled"
    
    And while I'm on the subject of spelling and wrong words - how 
    about IRregardless?  There is no such word in the English language
    as irregardless.  The word is regardless.  This is just another
    one that makes me want to scream.
    
    Sue
    
478.18OrientatedSEAPEN::PHIPPSTue Feb 16 1988 22:110
478.19Cultural imperialism strikes againLOV::LASHERWorking...Thu Feb 18 1988 01:0512
    Re: .17

                         -< Creative spelling & words >-
    	Re: .13
    	< Maybe they spelt it differently in the US.  I can remember the
    
    	There is no such word as "spelt".  The word is "spelled"

    Looks like another case of American nearsightedness.  I believe
    "spelt" is acceptable usage in the U.K.
    
Lew Lasher
478.20Not too bad a spellSSDEVO::GOLDSTEINThu Feb 18 1988 01:2610
    Re: .17
    
    >There is no such word as "spelt".  The word is "spelled"
    
    According to Webster's New World Dictionary, 'spelt' is an alternate
    past test and past participle of 'spell.'  The word is commonly
    used, perhaps more so in England than here, but one encounters it
    often enough in literature, criticism, and commentary.
    
    Bernie
478.21reminds me of a truly awful joke...JANUS::CROWLEOn a clear disk you can seek foreverThu Feb 18 1988 11:049
    What does a smelter tell you when you ask him what he does for a
    living?
    
    And when he tells you, do you wonder whether he's still in gainful
    employment?
    
    :-(
    
    -- brian
478.22This is a bilingual fileNEARLY::GOODENOUGHJeff Goodenough, IPG Reading UKThu Feb 18 1988 13:515
    Thank you .19 and .20 for putting right .17.  I get really hot under
    the collar when foreigners try to tell me how my own language should
    be spelt. :-)
    
    Jeff.
478.23SSDEVO::GOLDSTEINSat Feb 20 1988 21:523
    Think nothing of it.  It is something that I learnt.
    
    Bernie
478.24GLIVET::RECKARDJon Reckard, 381-0878, ZKO3-2T20Mon Feb 22 1988 18:561
re: .23 - Don't be shy about .22's gratitude - you earnt it.
478.25SorryTWEED::S_LECLAIRTue Feb 23 1988 16:204
    Most humble apologies!
    
    Sue
    
478.26Agsepted :-) :-)NEARLY::GOODENOUGHJeff Goodenough, IPG Reading UKWed Feb 24 1988 14:141
    
478.27Excepted?LOV::LASHERWorking...Wed Feb 24 1988 15:351
478.28Of coarse, how sly of me!NEARLY::GOODENOUGHJeff Goodenough, IPG Reading UKWed Feb 24 1988 21:531
    
478.29Heads or Tales?MEIS::FONSECAI heard it through the Grapevine...Wed Feb 24 1988 23:567
re: .10 or so

Rock stars from the late 50's used another product in their
hair: Preparation H.  I don't remember where I heard this,
but I imagine it had better holding power in the long run.

-Dave
478.30On too/to/twoCNTROL::HENRIKSONTue Jan 03 1989 02:569
I've found something you can say but not write.

We have the words too,to and two in the English language.

So, there are three ___s(?) in the English language.

Fill in the blank.

Pete
478.31and anotherCHEFS::LAWSONMStart 1989 with Jesus ChristTue Jan 03 1989 08:588
    I think there is another one along the lines of .30
    
    I sew my shirt, my brother is sowing some seed.
    We are both ...ing ??
    
    aa
    
    Mark
478.32et tu?MARKER::KALLISAnger&#039;s no replacement for reasonTue Jan 03 1989 13:589
    Re .30 (Pete):
    
    "tu" (phon)
    
    Re .31
    
    "doing different activities." :-)
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
478.33$$$VAXWRK::SIMONHugs Welcome Anytime!Tue Jan 03 1989 19:352
    By, Bye, Buy
    
478.34wrong order!IJSAPL::ELSENAARFractal of the universeWed Jan 04 1989 09:338
RE -1

>    By, Bye, Buy
    
I thought it was By, Buy, Bye!!!

:-):-)
Arie
478.35It *can* be done!SSGBPM::KENAHFull circle -- closureThu Jan 05 1989 23:119
    re: To/too/two  I read this puzzle once; the setup was similar to
    what Pete mentioned, where an executive was trying to outwit his
    secretary. 
    
    He dictated the sentence, and the secretary didn't hesitate; she wrote
    the sentence done as soon as she heard it.  How did she manage that
    trick?
    
    					andrew 
478.36CNTROL::HENRIKSONFri Jan 06 1989 02:114
	Must have been shorthand but, I'd like to see the letter she typed out.

Pete
478.37Indeed -- he was so flustered, he forgot to ask...SSGBPM::KENAHHappy Birthday, Mr. HolmesFri Jan 06 1989 21:520
478.38You can tie-dye your tutu, too.DDIF::CANTORLogout and hit break.Wed Feb 22 1989 06:577
Re .32 (ct 30)

> "tu" (phon)

Yes, but two "tu"s together make a tutu.  

Dave C.