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    	Mike Foley
    
    	Man, guy, pick-up truck driver, gun owner, all-around man type
    	persona, etc...
    
    	System Manager for LKG Lab Services Group.
    
    							mike

    
    Andy Leslie
    Occupations:	Father, husband and digital employee
    Age: 		30
    Married 		10 years
    Location:		Reading, England.

    Kristy Gleason
    
    Married 4 years to a 'unreal' man :-)
    
    Secretary/System Manager, Advanced VAX Maintainability Engineering
    Group in Littleton, MA (LTN1) - LTN/LJO Notes DIG Site Coordinator
    
    					*** Kristy ***

    John Nogrady
    
    Single, 23 yrs. old, new to New Hampshire and New England women.
    
    Systems Engineer, ZK2, Nashua, NH.

    
    Michael Greenberg
    Age 22
    Software Engineer - ZK2
    Single
    Real Man

    Doug Hobbs
    Toronto, Ontario
    
    A 26 year old Senior Software Specialist working for Marketing in
    Digital. Definitely a downtown urban type (but definitely not a
    YUPPIE...I am not materialistic enough, however I do like the finer
    things in life...THERE IS A DIFFERENCE).
    
    Presently, happily single (I'm too busy trying new things
    and discovering the world and that tends to frustrate potential 
    partners). Noted for my carousing ability.

    Marie McCallion
    Occupation:		Secretary - Duty Drawback
    Age:		40 on friday
    Married:		10 years - no children
    Location:		Work in Northboro - live in Marlboro
    Years at DEC:	13

    Who? 	Michael W. Zaharee
    Age?	28+364days
    Does what?	Software Engineer
    Where?	ZKO
    How long?	6 years
    Any more?	Yes: Married 2yrs, got it right the second time around
    		2 daughters via previous marital disaster
    

        Dave Butenhof
        Principal Software Engineer, Commercial Languages & Tools
        Lives at ZKO2-3 and/or Hudson NH, depending on time of day
        Been married for 4 years, but lifemated for 6 (which is
        	the anniversary we celebrate).
        
        Regular reader/contributor to WOMANNOTES, and still follow
        MEN, though MENNOTES is off to a much better start (we'll
        see).
        
        	/dave

    
    Who?	George O'Grady
    What?	SW specialist - Internal Software Services
    Where?	Currently in Northboro, office is in MR3
    When?	Deccie for 6 years, 30, married, 2 little ones.
    
    		Been around, I'll add my $0.02 in every once in awhile...
    

    Ray Levasseur
    Bean Counter in an engioneering group at MLO - aspiring hacker!
    Athletic 39 year old
    Comfortable with my masculinity and don't have to bite the caps
    off bear bottles to prove anything, besides I don't need any more
    dental bills.
    
    Live in Nausea, New Hampster....longing to move back to Bahston

    Charles Haynes
    Programmer
    Californian
    Rock Climber
    Home Brewer
    Male
    
    Ex-moderator of (the now, sadly, defunct) men.notes

    
    Joe Bowker
    New Product Consultant for US Volume Operations,
    Used to be: Software Engineering Manager
    	        Sr. Diagnostic Engineer
    		Product Support Engineer
    working for Digital for over 11yrs
    
    Married for 8 yrs
    2 kids
    Work in MRO3, Home at Billerica
    major hobby is Amateur Radio
    

    
    Nancy Wolochowicz
    Component Engineer (used to be a Financial Analyst)
    LMO2
    
    A woman appreciative of men.

    Who?	Jeff Strait
    Age?	30
    Does?	Principal Software Specialist - Customer Support Center
    Where?	Westboro, MA = YWO
    Lives?	Hudson, MA
    Sex?	Yes, please .. I mean male.

    
    Lorna St.Hilaire
    Secretary in MSD Options Engineering, the Mill
    Employed by Digital for 11 years
    Divorced after 12 1/2 yr. marriage
    Presently single
    One daughter, age 12 
    37 years old
    
    

    Angeline JoVan
    ZKO
    Formerly of DECwest
    
    

    		Phil Cloud
    		Thin Films Operator
    		Guitarist
    		Ocean Lover
    		All around nice guy....(guitarist's rhapsody)
    		Been with DEC for seven years
    		A new resident of the sunny state of Massachusetts.
    
    		An "enlightened" man
    
    						Phil
    

    Philip L. Karlton
    Husband
    Father
    Programmer (I do windows.)
    Native Californian
    Old
    Fat
    Rock climber
    Feminist
    Quiche eater
    Volleyball player (I know how to set.)

    
    Arturo R Quiroga
    Married (3 years)
    Not a father (yet)
    Mexican
    27 years old
    Educational Consultant BUO/E39
    
    Ex-latin lover (he, he??!!) (gulp!)
    

	Here I am......Street cred. in absolute tatters......turning from
a Real man into a thoughtful and reflective fellow!

	Richard G. Keville-Evans
	CSS PGG-E Man. Ops. Reading
	"The one with the foolish grin!"

@ @
 ^ )
\_/

Richard.

    
    
    Name: Martin, Cary Martin
    Age : 37
    Work: CMB module tech extraordinar.
    Where: Colorado Springs. CXO-01
    Particulars: Man in metamorphosis.
    Status: Married 7 months. In this case "freedom" was just another
                              word for nothing left to loose.
    Dependents: Two dogs. "the kids"
    Likes: Camping with the boys or with the wife, but usually not 
           at the same time. (The boys can get a little rowdy)
           Fishing, except ice.
           Shooting pistols and hunting liberals but not in that order.
           Dancing with the wife.
    
    

    
    gailann Kimbrough
    admin secretary
    hardcopy engineering
    MLO 1-3
        
    mother
    would be  wife/lover/mistress... just offer me a job! :-)
    
    

Jerry Kew 

Reading, DB designer

WRU 567

    Craig Kosak
    Documentation Production Manager - DECwest Engineering - Bellevue,
      WA.  (Hi Angeline - I finally made it!)
    
    I've been with DEC for about four months now, love it so far.  I'm
    29, married for 4 years and have a five month old daughter (love
    her sooooooo much!).  My wife Dyanna works full time as well.
    
    

    
    
    Charlie (Cal) Calcagni
    Manager Info Systems PKO
    DECie for 5 months.
    ex Honeyweller (17 Yrs)
    ex Biker
    ex Trucker
    ex Heavy Construction
    ex Airborne Officer (pathfinders)
    and have Ex wife!
    Hell of a lot of ex's but fun is fun.
    Have a new life, family, and total outlook thanks to the new misses
    who will be starting here 12/1. A real DEC family!
     ( I hope this one last longer the "MEN".
    

Hi y'all. I am...............

	Bob Bate
	ADG European Sales Applications Support Specialist
	(Sounds sooooo good for a humble support programmer, doesn't it ?)
	Reading, UK
	Married (14 1/2 yrs. , most of it happy :-) )
	1 son 

	Been with DEC for 13 months
	Been NOTING for a few weeks only (sorry if I don't know the form yet)

	Likes.....
		Sport
		Drinking
		Eating
		Drinking
		Laughing
		Drinking
	and


		** EVERYBODY **

	at least to begin with :-)

	Bob

    sarah lemaire
    sr. s/w engineer
    married, 31, pregnant
    feminist
    mostly read-only
    
    think both this file and womannotes are good ideas.

    
    
    >Hope this lasts longer then MEN.
    
    What I mean't was ..This note file!
    Looked awful strange when I reread my intro.
    
    Later,
    Cal.
    

    
    	You know me right? I'm all over the place.....
    
    	Todd Survil
    	A real dude.
    	A Colorado Springs dude.
    	A Mechanical Engineering dude.
    	A 26 year old dude.
    	A active dude.
    	A partying dude.
    	A very single dude.
    	A-ok dude.
    
    
    	Bye for now, dudes....and dudettes!
    
    	Todd       
    

    Here goes,
    
    	Paul Forner
    	23 yrs (old, not with company)
    	been with DEC for 3 yrs.
    	A virtual dude (re .35)
    	Resident at SOHIO right now (what a mess!)
    	extremely single
    	love doing everything (at least once)
    	Trying to get along with what I have now, but willing to
    		expand my horizons.
    	live in Cleveland Ohio
    
    	Kristy, Glad to see that you visit more than just the select
    		few.
    
    

		Paul Connelly
		prin. s/w spec.
		Merrimack NH (MKO1)
		7+ years with DEC
		36 yrs. old, single

    Bonnie Reinke
    planner II -options materials group
    formerly taught college Biology for over 12 years
    married almost 20 years 
    five children
    many pets/criters

    Jim Ford
    Senior Software Specialist
    Minneapolis Minnesota
    DEC 7+ years
    Age 43
    Married 20+ years
    3 Children - ages 20,19,13
    

    	Roland Scott, well known twit and gibbering wreck
    	age 34 (but very high mileage!)
    	married 2 years (got it right second time)
    	RDC engineer (well I believe so) in Basingstoke
    	
    	likes                            dislikes
    	sport     			 paying maintenance to ex-wife
    	American football		 broken ribs
    	fantasy books
	German beer

    Cathy Giunta
    Program Manager
    FSL Engineering in WOO
    Age:  28
    Married to Mark for 3 1/2 years
    Working on a family
    Been at DEC 5 years (now I get that third week of vacation!)
            
    I think this file is a great idea, and will put my $.02 in now and
    then. Mostly, I'll probably be a read-only member.
    
    

Dave Kerrell
European CAS Implementation & Support
Reading, England
Married, no brats
In DEC for 2 years 8 months and counting

	Mike Ryan, 25.679 years old, software engineer at MKO (BCSE
	Advanced Derangement and Technocracy), two years at DEC, two
	years living in Arlington MA, single, softballer and
	ex-DIBOLer, guitarist, listener, Red Sox fan, ...

    Here I go again...I intro'd myself in MEN but that got the can.
    
    Liesl Kolbe, DBA for Information Systems Group in Colorado Springs.
    
    My job is "other duties as assigned" and my age is best left to
    the imagination. Married 10 years with 3 years of practice before
    that. No kids, 3 dogs, 1 cat, 1 horse. My favorite animal is my
    husband who plays with intelligence of the artificial kind. You
    guys sometimes give me great insight into why he sometimes acts the
    way he does. 

    Mike Morgan:
    
      Sometimes goes by Mikie?;
      Customer support engineer at the Digital Diagnosis Center;
      Live in Colorado Springs;
      31 years of age;
      Single and looking;
      Likes outdoor sports and indoor sports;
      Religion:  I'm a mystic, know what mystics believe in??  Well it
        has got me mystified too;
      I am not gay but understand where gays are at ( at least I think
        so).
    
      Mikie?
      

    
    Dennis J. Ahern
    Married since around '72 (I know it was May)
    One son who just turned seven
    JFK was murdered on my 20th birthday (though I didn't know it)
    On contract with Digital since November '85 as a Take-A-Nickel Riter
    

Karen Taber, sometimes known as Bugsy, depends on my mood.

I'm a software engineer in MKO, but I live in Pepperell, MA

I always wanted to be a boy when growing up because boys did neat
things and said neat things and got treated better in the real
world, and all the while at home I was living the life of a
princess and resenting it!

I have 1 husband, 1 father, 1 brother-in-law, 5 brothers, 4 nephews,
and several assorted male friends.

I have what I call a "vested interest" in this conference.

I'm hoping to get a better understanding of the men in my life, and try to
figure out Mom's favorite expression which is always said with a tone
of severe exasperation "Oh, that's the MAN of it!"
    
Karen

    	Vivian Sparrow
    	CSC/Networks Support
    	Software Specialist
    	nickname chirp
    	Been with DEC 6 years.
    
    	I like men, talking to them, understanding them, having men
    	friends and thats why I like this Notesfile.
    
    

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    Hi, my name is Lesley (Tweeky) McGuire.  I live/work ADG Support
    in Reading.  I am a virgin user of the Mennotes and any other notes
    for that matter.  But one learns quickly !
    

Tarik Sadat.
aka: Tarik Mahmoud Al-Sadat, Cairo Sid, "Oi", "Here he comes", etc. (name
						changes depending on location) 
Development Specialist, European Applications Development Group, Reading.
Confirmed Bachelor
30
Half Saudi, half Yorkshire, born Westminster therefore *NOT* a Cockney
DECie 18 months
Lives 'Over The Bridge' in Caversham
Tendency to Open Mouth Before Engaging Brain.

    OK, I've contributed, so I'll 'fess up
    
    Mary Ellen Zurko
    Sr. Software Eng.
    Secure Systems Group, LTN2 (and Boxborough, eventually)
    

    Carole A. Hebert
    Accounting Analyst
    DDD (DECdirect)
    
    
    Keep up the good work guys!

Peter Bailey
Computer Services, Reading
A DECie now for 6 months  (and not so sure about it either)
Manic Depressive + workaholic
Hobbies Work,Work,Work,Work,Work + Fixing up our house
Married 4 years





{Ps re my hobbies, yes I am very boring to know}      :-)

        Mark Chequer
    

Bob Lambert, (Max to very old friends, "rfl" to pen-pals)
Age: 36
Occupation: Life, fathering, husbanding, loafing, software engineer for
            field service engineering - Stow OGO
Married: Yes, once, 12 years, stepfather to 4 ages 15-22
Living in Hudson, Ma.

    I like this type of file, but maybe they should rename this one
    PEOPLENOTES. There's more woman in this than men. Is nothing sacred
    anymore???  Just kinding ladies!!!!
    
    Anyway here goes - - - 
    
    Frank Ciszek
    CSSE Manager - MK02
    Been with mother DEC - a touch under 15 years
    Married - 13 years, one daughter age 10
    Likes - cars, boats, good friends, having a good time (I've been
    		known to fall down having good times), skiing (down
    		hill), good women, sex and rock&roll (no drugs please!!).
    		Meeting new people that like the same things as I do
    		and even some that don't.
    Dislikes - pushy people, name droppers, people that complain about
    		everything, politicians.

    More from the man with the ever changing node!
    
    William j. Buckley jr.
    Engineer (audio), Producer, Musician
    I have served 8 years of my lifetime sentence @ DEC!
    Outspoken
    single for the time being
    Renaissance-period intellect
    Eccentric, eclectic, erotic, erratic, et cetera
    Music!!!
    Art!!
    `On the left'
    Magenta/Blood Red
    Fast Cars, Fast .......?
    Puligne Montrachet
    Into "X"
    
    William j. Buckley jr.

    34 
    single
    misanthrope
    misogynistic
    10 speeds 
    wargamer
    hopes better days come soon
    

Jym Dyer.

26.

Single, but engaged, and have been living in "sin" for four years.

I've been called a feminist but I am sick to death of "isms," feminism
 included.  Let's just say I believe that the traits we label "feminine" and
  "masculine" are simply human traits that all of us have.

Accordingly, I climb mountains and cuddle babies.
 <_Jym_>

        Tom Blinn.  You can read lots about me (history-wise) in ASKENET,
        or infer what you will from my writings in various conferences
        around the net.  Just getting into this conference, but looking
        forward to it.
        
        Tom

    Jim Adkins.
    Avid fan of MEN before its demise. Took a while to get into this
    one.
    Washington, DC Software.
    Punk ( Socrates was a punk and he said, " I drank what ? " )
    You can find me all over NOTEdom. Not an addict, just busy.
    Outspoken by reputation.
    Lazy by nature,
    
    Jim
    

    
     Peter Cook
    
     IND, Marlboro
    
     I do something here but I lost track of it
    
     Live in Hudson
    
     

    Ann Hakim
    
    Strategic Business Analysis (Don't ask, I didn't..it affords
                                  a good lifestyle)
    
    OGO, Stow (yep a CD :-) )
    
    Independent but not over-bearing
    
    Appreciate all the fine things in life...including men :-) 
    
    Limit my playground to the world
    
    Never ignore a good opportunity

    
    David Wall
    Software Engineer
    HPSCAD, Marlborough, MA
    
    Live in Worcester
    
    Along for the ride....
    
    DFW

    
    ......Philippe Roggeband
    28 Years old, married for 3 1/2 year, Father of Maud + ? (4 months
    left before delivery of # 2)
    I work for the local Engineering Group, been with DEC for 6 years
    and still like it here!
    Guitarist, book-lover , try to play squash on a regular basis to
    keep reasonably fit!

    
    Well, I've entered here, so I may as well introduce.  I've been
    read-only for a couple of months and will try to remain mostly
    that way.
    
    who:    Ellen Gugel
    what:   Software engineer, Secure Systems
    where:  Littleton

    I'm a 26 year old mechanical engineer working and living in Shrewsbury.
    I'm mostly reading this conference...
    
    I'm listed somewhere in WHOAREYOU (#750, I think).

I'm speechless today on the subject of me, so suffice it to say I'm 
interested in the male perspective.

CQ

    Ken Stevens
    
    You can find me here and there and all about in the world of NOTES
    and out...
    
    
    
    

    
    Rob Burton
    Junior tech-writer for ESD+P in MR02.
    30 yrs old (Gee, I didn't feel a thing)
    Been a Digit 12 years. (Like I was born here)
    married 8+yrs
    Dad to three sons ages 3,5+7
    Slightly overweight (Marie and I are great cooks)
    Hobbies; Hiking, fishing, beer, hunting, R.C. modeling (boats),
    beer, presently attempting to train two dogs to pull dogsleds, beer.

    
    David R Cunningham
    
    Southern Area Support Engineer (hardware)
    
    Enjoying the good life in Memphis, Tenn.
    
    Digit for 8 years.
    
    Married, Divorced, Remarried (same woman)
    
    4 children (boys and girls) ages 7 to 11
    
    Guitar player (Hi Max, remember me?) Chess player, Motercyclist,
    Psychology and Political Science buff.
    
    Likes people better than computers, understands computers better
    than people.
    
    Prejudice against sexist and bigots, especially sexist bigots.
    
    Struggling to understand myself and the world around me. 
    
    

    
    
    -sunny-  AKA  Janet Bader
    
    Albuquerque, New Mexico
    
    
    Thought it might be about time to register, I'm extremely shy and
    probably won't voice alot of opinions. ;-)
    
    WRU #550

    I thought I had entered here, but, as a result of my jumping into
    Note 30 with both feet, I was asked to speak up.  Here goes naught!
    
    Spence Frasher
    Electronics Technician, Design Engineering
    Colorado Springs, Colorado
    
    Very happily married, no children.  Ever.
    I've been with DEC for 3 years after 10 miserable years in the Air
    Force.  I'm still trying to learn how to be a civilian.
    I am very active in several notes files, somewhat active in others,
    thinking about still more.  They take so much time.  Noting allows
    me to voice my opinion without facing people, I'm a little shy,
    but improving.  I'm very interested in how the rest of the world
    feels about issues, I guess its an attempt to determine whether
    I'm more or less normal in my beliefs.  I tend to be very out-dated
    in my beliefs, as will become apparent, if not already.  I try to
    shut out progress.
    
    Interests:
    Wide open spaces, camping, flyfishing, hiking, 4-wheeling, skiing,
    cross country skiing, softball, lots of snow, Colorado (outside
    of the cities).   
    
    I hope I haven't made any enemies yet, I'm just getting started.
    (In MENNOTES, not making enemies)
    
    Spence

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    Name:           Peter Kobs
    Job:            Writer for INSIGHT magazine, an external publ.
    Location:       West Concord (I live in Lexington)
    Description:    I am a 28-year-old redhead from Michigan about to
                    resume the single life after four years of non-
                    matrimonial attachment. Seems a little scary.
                    I am somewhat confused by the conflicting demands
                    of feminism in the '80s. Gloria Steinem meets
                    Sally Success.

    
    
    	NAME: Jim Morin                                          
    	                                                        
    	FROM: New Ipswich, N.H.                                 
                                                         
    	LOCATION: TWO                                         
    
    	JOB: COMPUTER OPERATOR (Internal Software Services)
    
       	

    Dana Charbonneau  
    Springfield Mass Plant
    Whoareyou # 741
    various trivia ....

    
     Peter Cook
     PSE Diagnostics and Microcode 
     Tewksbury, MA
     live in Hudson, MA
    
     .
      .
       .     

    
    Mike McAnulty
    RSX Development
    Nashua, NH
    live in Salem, NH
    
    

    Lee Tatistcheff
    Materials Analysis (acoustic microscopy, anyone?)
    Northboro, MA
    
    (ps.  I'm female.  Aren't androgynous 1st names wonderful?)

    who? Ed Badowski
    age? 45
    does? stride training reassignable
    time in dec 14 yrs.
    status married with 3 kids
    location work- MK01  Home-Nashua, NH

    WHO: Robin Samms 
          (male)
    BORN:  Jamaica
    WHERE NOW: Seattle Wa. 
    AGE :  37
           Sales , (it appears the first to register in this conference
                    why is that?)
           Married 11 years ,fun so far and 2 wonderful daughters.
           Been at DEC 2 years , computer sales 15 years
    INTERESTS: All (Life's a gas)          
    

    Carol Johns
    Software Specialist
    Language Support Team
    Customer Support Center, Colorado Springs
    
    Usually will be in read mode.

    Rich Brake
    Mfg. Engineer
    DEC Burlington, VT
    Married 10 Years, Father of 2
    Anxious to Xfer to warmer climes.
    
    
    

    
    
    Lee Timmons
    Process Engineer
    DEC,So. Lawrence, Ma
    Married 13 years, divorced 10, father of 4
    Happy right here, going to Andover soon

    Ron Anderson
    Software Technical Writer
    Marlboro, Mass. - Hometown - Atlanta, Georgia
    Married 7 years - one girl, one boy
    I'll talk about anything

    Kathie Mitchell
    Financial Analyst for DIS HQ
    Concord, MA   (VRO)
    Divorced 
    
    Hope to learn more about the somewhat complex opposite sex.

	Jim McKenzie
	Programmer/Analyst
	HPS&C Computer Services
	Marlboro, MA
	Married, no little nippers (yet)

	I've been reading for a while, 'tis time to jump in head first!

    bruce laru
    senior software writer (dec 7 yrs) LTN2-2
    divorced
    44
    
    seeking secret of the universe in 25 words or less

        
        Rob Leas; 23
        Software Specialist; Dec 3 yrs
        Guitarist; aspiring professional rock-n-roller
        I often wish I was a brit, all the better bands
        are from England.
        
        Recently transplanted to California and dying to meet more
        people.
        

    
    Paul LaFosse, 27, friends call me Fra, among other things...
    PC Designer in LKG, DEC 8 years
    Married, 3 girls 
    Been busy, very busy....
    
    Just found this notesfile, have alot of reading ahead of me... mostly
    here to see how were supossed to handle everyday lifes trivialities.
    
    Fra

    Simon Clinch Age 27,  have worked as a statistician,  an
    applications programmer, a course developer,  a software
    engineer,  a systems programmer and a systems manager.
    Currently a sort of datacentre manager.  (Sort of because
    my job is still technical as well).  No current s.o.
    (to use a previous terminology).

    
    
    Vicki Kile-Flowers
    Married to a man I adore (11 months today)
    33 years old
    No children
    1 previous marriage
    Love men of all ages 
    Senior Software Specialist in Atlanta 
    Amateur ballet dancer

    
       Mike Bassett
      
       Stingle ( STill sINGLE )
    
       4-28-61 ( willb 26 this month )
    
       Computer Operator @WJO ( 2nd shift ) =|8vD
    
       WRU #730 ( I thin ?? )
    
       Nicknames - Hollywood 
                       +
                   Max Headroom ( I don't know why - He doesn't look
                                  anything like me )
    
       Hobbies - Sports
    
       Sports  - Hobbies
    
       Well thz iz awl - So HELLO and GOOD BUY 4RR now !! 
       

    ...I am...
    
    Well, my name is Mike Dobosz.  I just hit (*OOOOH NOOOOOOOOOOO*)
    three-oh.  I've worked here (in Westfield) for ten years as of January
    just past...
    I'm a metals inspector.  I play the guitar, ride motorcycles, camp,
    ski, travel (not enough), read...
    I'm single...it might have something to do with my hours...it's
    Firday night, 11:23, and I'm working...
    I *HAVE* to get off these hours...

    How rude, i created a note without introducing myself, i appologize
    
    Phil Taber
    Software Consultant
    Cleveland Ohio (and proud of it!)
    At DEC 8 years
    married 5.5 years and loving it
    
    Interests include nature, photography, people and sports (all)!
    

    John Miller
    Sr. Software Engineer
    AITG/AITC
    

        
    Who: 	Bob Lockridge
    Where: 	MKO2
    What: 	Principal Maintainability Engineer (I couldn't even
    		pronounce it, now I are one)
    How Long: 	15.25 yrs (DEC that is - 2 yrs in MKO)
    Home:       Nashua, NH
    Interests:  Music (Classical piano/organ mostly)
    		Wood working
                Cooking and eating (kinda' overweight at the moment - and now
    		TASTYKAKE has come to New England - oh well!)
    		Playing with my computer at home
    Age:	38 (can that be RIGHT?)
    Status:	Single (for ever and ever amen) [should probably have
	    	said "aperson" but *this* MANNOTES :-)]
    Children:	Two (four legged furry kind that meow)
    Other: 	I have the largest organ in the state of New Hampshire 
    		(musical - residential pipe organ -  that is)
                                           
    -Bob
                                                    

    Name: Cathy Tassone
    Occupation: Dept Coordinator, IN-DEC Field Service, Business Group
    DEC years: 3 on May 14
    Marital Status: Single (SO also works at DEC -- met him through
                    SINGLESnotes)
    Other Noting: WOMANNOTES, FRIENDS, HUMAN_RELATIONS, NO_SMOKING,
                  THEATRE
    Hometown(s): Born in East Boston, raised in Milford, living in
    apartment in Hudson, MA
    Likes: boating, fishing, dancing, reading, relaxing and of course,
    noting.
    
    Cheers everyone.....

    Blandine Milliot
    
    - Apprentice "Employe de commerce en gestion, informatique" in Digital
      for 3 years (exams in June... :-()

    - 20 years old
    
    - Single
    
    - Aries... gasp !
    
    - Crazy French girl
    
    - I'm trying MENNOTES, but... you can usually find me in WOMANNOTES,
      GDE and FRENCH.

    - Looking for a translator (my next entries will be in French)

    - Always hungry
    
    - Specialist of terrific angers (sp ?)

    Who: Rich Zore
    Age: 36
    Home: Brookline, NH
    
    Has: 1 house, 1 mortgage, 1 wife, 1 cat, 2 girls (2 & 4), 1 boy
    (1 month), 2.5 cars
    
    Likes: being a father & husband, shooting, hiking & camping,
    the sciences, cooking (though I seldom get the chance), programming
    and others to numerous to mention.
     
    Dislikes: People who pick on others & liver.
    
    Known as: A red-neck, a liberal, a storm trooper, a wimp depending
    on who you're talking to.

	George Mitchell
    	50 yrs +
    	Contract Consultant (HR) 3+ yrs @ 10-12 DEC locations
    	presently at NRO
    	Live in Merrimack NH since '66
        former Engineer W/Philco, Sylvania,IBM,Sanders
    	former Jet Jockey USAF 52-56
    	lots of miles and still in the fast lane
    
    Like:present wife..40 yr old Greek terrorist that looks like 25..people
    	 think shes my daughter...I refer to her lovingly as the Greek
         Goddess of WAR. She tries to keep a short leash on the kid.
       	:my 5 kids....sailing...eating out...drinking good scotch...
    	 diesel cars...travelling (B&B type)...oceans...women...sex
    	 not necessarily in that order.
    
    dislike: who cares! - lifes too short...
    
    				___GM___
    	                                    
    

    
    
    	LaDonna McDonald
     
    Occupation :    Associate Design Specialist (fancy word for programmer)
    		    former Registered Nurse been programming 2 years
    Nationality:    Texan
    Married    :    3 yrs to a Brit
    Children   :    2 Siamese cats instead
    Home       :    Camberley, Surrey, UK 
    Work       :    Reading, UK  (Acre Road)
    Leisure    :    rambling,tennis,reading(sci-fi,classics,fantasy)
                    gardening, redecorating house
    
                  
    Cheers,
    	LaDonna
    
    

    Lee (Loid) Cotton.  Dreadfully unhappy programmer, England.  Male.

                       -< GREETINGS >-
    
    Michael Conroy (Mike)
    Strategic Planning for CSM in WJO
    43 Years old
    19 Years with DEC
    Divorced after 20 years of marriage
    Presently single and hope to keep it that way for awhile
    Two kids(?) girl 21/boy 19
    Pets: 1 dog (Sandy), 1 cat (Merlin)
    Live in Bellingham, Ma.
    Interests: Fishing,Hunting,Workin' on the House,Mountain
    climbing,Boating,Real Estate,Reading,Listening,Participating,
    People in General,Helping......
    

    INDIAN::RECEPT
    

    Deb Pakkila
    Location: LJO1
    Job:      Programmer
    Married:  second time
    Children: Daughter, 17 years old
    Hobbies:  Swimming, relaxing, reading
    Age:      35
    

    Gary Robbins
    Loc: ASO
    Job: Computer Operator (Previously PC Planner,scheduler), recently
         changed career path.
    Married: 12 yrs.
    Children: Daughters; 11, 9 1/2.
    Hobbies: Hunting, Fishing, Woodworking, Fly-tying, reading.
    Age: 37
    Residence: Maine (native, ayuh)

    Anil Gupta
    Loc   : MVO (aka Mt. View, Silly Con Valley)
    Job   : Software Engineer
    Single and luv it                                          
    Something in common: Luv H-R notes - one of my after-work hangouts
    Something not in common with all of you: Luv SF Giants,             
                                             Hate Boston Redsox              
    
    									
    

    Billie Ackerman
    Business Account Specialist 
    Lynchburg, Virginia                      
                                             
    Married to Art for 10 years (today) :-)  
                                
    Have been reading only for a while now and figured it was about
    time to make myself known.  

    Pete Goodwin
    Loc:	REO2 (Reading, England)
    Status:	Single
    Age:	27
    Hobbies:	Reading, writing, TV, computers, walking, eating

    Hi..
    	Stephen Cloutier
    
    Loc: LKG (Littleton)
    Live in: Groton
    
    Age: 33, married, wife Pregnant (6 mos. as of this writing)
    
    Avid_died_in_the_wool_Do_it_yourself-er... Like the country, quiet
    people and places... don't like cities... crowded places..noise..
    Considered by most to be somewhat old-fashioned.
    
    Love the 60s.

    TOXMAN::MECLER = Frank Mecler
    Toxicologist
    Concord, Ma. (CFO2)
    Daughter - Erica age 7

    
    Name:	James Pflueger (jim)
    Where:	CKO (High Desert in CA -[can't wait to go bak2 Colo.])
    What:	Senior Software Specialist
    Age:	24 days till *30* (...life was so simple then..)
    How long:	15 days (joined up - next day came the quake..?)
    Likes:	SKIING, Bicycling, Flying, Photography, carbuff, guns,
    		fishing, hunting (2 & 4 leg wildlife), music, NOTES,
    		ect.
    Status:	Single so far
    

    Name:       Carolyn Cooper (CC)
    Where:      MPO (Minneapolis, Minnesota) GO TWINS!!!!!!!!!
                 (not really a sports fan but...what the heck)
    Job:        Sr. Sales Secretary
    Length:     10 months
    Status:     Single
    Children:   4 yr. old daughter (joy of my life)
    
    (Whoareyou #749 <or 7??>)
    
    Keeping the Faith...
    
    CC
    

    JOHN PAPA
    AGE 47
    DIVORCED
    4 KIDS 3 AT HOME WITH ME, ONE MARRIED
    DIGITAL 11 YEARS
    PRINCIPAL ELECTRONIC ENGINEER
    LIVE IN COLO SPRINGS CXO1-2
    
    

    
    	Dave Costa
    
        designer in ltn night shift
        I'm married (6 yrs) and have two sons
    	My wife Deidre is Irish and gorgeous
        My sons Dave(6) and Joe(5) are thee greatest
        
    	Have big ol american cars, oak furniture, 100 watt stereos
        AC judo belts, and spaghetti on wednesdday(mostly)
    
        see ya
        pisano
                                         
        

Chuck Stern
23 yrs. old
Jazz/classical trumpeter & pianist, bridge player, record collector.

Working at  Littleton  (LTN1)  as  a  contractor for 3 months on diagnostics
release for one of the projects here, as well as AXE testing.

Living in Medford, MA (pronounced Me' fuh), and putting a lot of miles on my
car every week.

    Colorado Bob Sabata
    29.8 years (ooooold!)
    Artist, jeweler, reader.
    Three little folk, 7 yrs (Girl) 5 yrs and 2 yrs (boys)
    
    Working at Augusta, Maine on comm equipment as a tech II, after
    a stint in Colorado Springs, then a two year sentance in Mass, 
    both DEC.
    
    Generaly an all around type guy, with biased and distorted views
    on just about everything...

    Mark Kowalski. Surprise parents, 1952 in N.J. (exit 5).  Grow up in
    last small town in South Jersey.  Tool of the Institute, still wear
    Brass Rat (after suitable expansion to account for inflationary
    tendencies).  Oceanographer, Chesapeake Bay and Midatlantic Bight out
    of VIMS.  Death and destruction at JHUAPL.  More near-death and much
    destruction in first marriage, RIP 1981.  Try system management with
    Red Cross, Bethesda.  Do not pass go.  Fool for love and the better for
    it, reboot new marriage in 83. Move to sunny Minnesota, buy shovel,
    work with SPSS, 1984-1987.  Join local men's group, use shovel on all
    **** in head, feel better. Get smart, join Digital, MPO.  Happy! 
    

    Karen Kolling

      occupation: Principal Software Engineer
      education: MIT
      kids: two furries (Sweetie and Holly)
      status: foot-loose, fancy-free (and cynical, sigh).
      origin: native New Englander.
      interests: cats, Arabic, North Africa, getting mighty tired of
          restoring old house.
      other Notes files: FELINE, ARABIC, SCANDIA.

    Peter Ollodart from Switzerland.  I am 23, an American Citizen,
    and lived in Vermont for a large portion of my life.  I'm married
    to a swiss woman, and work for Digital as a SW specialist (still
    training for the months to come). I went to school overseas and
    have lived in Europe for four years. If you need anything German
    translated, I can do it for you.
     
    I guess I am a normal guy re .125, with plenty of biased attitudes,
    but I am open to change...you have to be in a International enviroment.
    
    We don't have children, my wife is a medical student in Zuerich,
    and we plan on enjoying life to its fullest. (i.e. travel etc.)
    
    That is about it.   Peter
    

    Mike Brouillette
    32
    Single
    mk02
    Industry Marketing IS

    Jim Melanson
    36
    Single
    NIO
    Programmer/Analyst QIS
    

	I'mmmmmm   bbbbaaaaaccccckkkkkkkkk.......

			Michael



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                         -< Topics of Interest to Men >-
================================================================================
Note 2.84                         Introductions                        84 of 130
BEING::MCANULTY "Mr. Boston...where are you Mr. Bost" 7 lines  24-FEB-1987 13:48
                              -< I'm here now... >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    
    Mike McAnulty
    RSX Development
    Nashua, NH
    live in Salem, NH
    
    

    You know, I've been noting away and never bother to introduce myself
    anywhere!  I don't tell anyone who I am, but figure that can be
    learned as noting goes on.
    
    I am: Cindy Jacques (cj I am)
          alias FSLENG::HEFFERN, EXIT26::READ
    
    I do not work: Woburn (WOO)
    
    I used to work: Export Documentation
      (now I just note all night)
    
    I live: lovely Lowell, MA
    
    I love: MENNOTES! It has to be my fav conference,
            but then I do have a soft spot for men and
            love to talk to and here their thoughts and
            opinions.
    
    I work third shift (Midnight Rider) and wish I had my own account
     to note out of so people won't mistake my identity.
    
    I LOVE watching football (as stated in one of these topic, er,
     arguments) and watching the Celtics
    
    I quite often sign with my trademark rose  *->
    
    Lastly, I have been known to ramble off at the fingers......
    
    
                                            cj
    

re.132  I should have mentioned I'm the never seen DECXPS::CJACQUES
        Just to avoid cases of mistaken identity. Although if you
        knew me, you could never mistake anyone for me again! :-) :-)
    
                                      cj  *->
    

    Who:            Mark Sawyer
    What:           Principal S/W Engineer
    Where:          PCSG, Littleton/LJO2
    How Long:       14 mo. contracting, direct since 12/28/87
    Marital Status: Limbo
    Other:          Typically a read-mostly noter

    Hi,  I'm Judy Kilgore, work at CXO's Eng Documentation Services
    Dept in Engineering.  I've been with DEC 6-1/2 years. I've just 
    recently got in to 'noting'.  I've been married to the same wonderful 
    guy for over 16 years...my!  Hard to believe how time flies when 
    you are having fun!  

    Howdy!
    
    Name:  Tade Thomas (you can't tell by my name but I'm a girl)
    What:  Senior Secretary
    How Long:  Almost three months!!!
    Martial Status:  too single
    WHOAREYOU:  #902
    
    
    
    (Oh my god!  I said the G word!)

	Eric A. Sohn
	29 next week, and not looking forward to it
	BXO
	Software Specialist IV
	Banking Industry SWS - EFT speciality
	Quite single
	Live in Chestnut Hill, but my landlord's probably not going to renew...

    
    Theresa Carlson (don't call me TERRY!)
    
    single
    
    29.4 years young
    
    7 years with DEC
    
    DIS Operations - Atlanta GA
                    
    Lead Computer Operator
    
    like jazz, men, eating, drinking, sleeping, reading, watching, noting
    to mention a few...

    
    	Paul Cormier 
        
        married 5.5 yrs
    
        Project Specialist/SWS Forecasting Group - Stow, Ma.
    
    	Been at DEC 12+ years.....
    
        Likes - Celtics, Harleys, Rock & Roll, American Cars, Fishing
                but not necessarily in that order.....

    
    Julie Plamondon
    
    Divorced
    
    Sr. Secretary at the moment in Bedford but am trying to get into
    OTP.
    
    I live in Leominster
    
    Likes: many, but to name a few, Camping, partying, all kinds of
    music, swimming, reading.
    
    Mennotes???  because I like to know what and how men feel and think
    about things.
    

    
    Thomas R. Gallo
    
    Job:	Instructor  
    Loc:	Field Service Training (Bedford,Ma.)
    Age:	26
    Married:	Yes,with two boys Rich age 5,Jeff age 3.Wife=Debbie
    
    Hobbies:	Computers
    		Scale Modelling
    		Military Jets
    
    EMAIL:	FSTVAX::GALLO
    
    

    WILLIAM BURNS]
    
    JOB: ENGINEER
    LOC: SHR TAPE ENGINEERING
    AGE: 32
    MARRIED: YES, 1 BOY MICHAEL AGE 5, 2 GIRLS, CHRISTINE AGE 5 AND
             STEPHANIE AGE 9 MOS,
    HOBBIES: COMPUTERS
             WEATHER
             MUSIC
    

    Sherry Litasi
    
    Job: Sr Prog/Analyst
    Loc: CXO - Colorado Springs
    Age: 37
    Status: Separating on April 2nd
    Kids: Tina, age 11 1/2
    Likes: Most sports, ie skiing, tennis, swimming, cycling, hiking,
           etc., watercolor painting, work, remodeling my house, horses,
           traveling, people, etc.
    Dislikes: Smoking, wasting time (life is too short)
    Why am I here: Being married 17 years (this May) to a Man, I think
           it is about time I learn to understand men.  I didn't do
           so good the first time...but plan to stay friends anyway.
     

    
    
    
    Mary Beth Mackey
    
    
    location:    CXO - Colorado Springs 
    Why:         I am intrugued by people, in general, and have a keen
                 interest in understanding the thought processes of
                 men.  
    Personal:    33, divorced, two daughters; 7 and 6
    Likes:       Having thought provoking conversations with others,
                 playing, singing, dancing, reading, listening to music,
                 walking, exploring new possibilities, sitting alone
                 in the dark being intraspective.
    Dislikes:    Dishonesty, incompetence.
    
    

    Wes Wilson
    Approaching the big three-o
    ESDP Editor
    PKO3
    Interests: Philosophy, art, literature, coffee conversation, ideas,
    ice cream, exercise
    
    Sign my name cryptically as ``WW''
    
    
    WW

    Since I have entered a note, I guess that I should introduce myself.
    
    name: Martin Haskins
    
    work: contract mechanical engineer
    
    where: Acton ACO
    
    duration: 4+ years
    
    age: 48
    
    married/divirced/married
    
    children 5 ages 24,22,15,6,4
    
    interest: everything
    
    AKA: The old F_rt (the younger)

    Doug Olson
    2 months with DEC
    PSS Santa Clara (California transplant finally...)  
    Just 27, single and still waiting
    Ex Air Force and I'll never work for a committee of 500 again (thats
    the Congress if it isn't clear...)
    
    Looking forward to MENNOTES.

    Name:	Edward Fultz (Ed..)
    Where:	AKO (Acton - Nagog Woods)
    What:	Senior Business Systems Consultant
    		   (Sounds Important Doesn't It?)
    Age:	29 years 7 months - (Let that last 5 months go slow)
    How Long:	4.5 years
    Likes:	Water Skiing, Guns, most outdoors stuff, photography
    
    Status:	Single but looking

    Name: George K. Rauh
    Rank: yes, not often though
    Title: Tech Rep at 1-800-343-4040
    Serial #: Hmmmmmmm...
    Years in service: 8 fun filled ones
    Marital status: wife, newborn, house.
    Activities: BB'er, hiker,

        HI,
    
       MY NAME IS CHUCK. I`M A TECH. WORK COOR. ON THE EVENING SHIFT
    AT WFO. I`M 30 YEARS OLD, DIVORCED TWO YEARS AFTER MARRIED FIVE,
    AND MY NEW LADY AND I ARE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THE BIRTH OF OUR BABY IN
    NOV. NIETHER OF US ARE LOOKING FOR MARRIAGE (AT LEAST IN THE NEAR
    FUTURE) BUT ARE HAPPY TO BE TOGETHER AND SHARING THE BIRTH EXPERIENCE.
       WE BOTH WORK FOR DEC, HER TEN YEARS, ME EIGHT. WE BOTH ENJOY
    THE FINER THINGS LIFE HAS TO OFFER, ESPECIALLY GOOD FRIENDS. LOOKING
    FORWARD TO MAKING MANY IN MENNOTES.                                        
                                    
                                           TAKE CARE,
    
                                                 CHUCK
    	

    Steve Lokietz (pronounced LOW-keetz)
    work: now in NYO-7 (Penn Plaza, Manhattan)
          in mid-July will be in AWO (Wall Street office)
    designated job title: software specialist (NY Financial District
      pre-sales) 	
    single, 31 years, feel like 19
    live in Westchester County (north of NY City)
    enjoy most kinds of music, wide open spaces, shmoozing (look that
      up in your Funk & Wagnalls), culcha (i.e. theatre and the like)
      ,intimate dinners, boisterous and unruly partying, eastern religion
    1 pound of turkey breast  }
    1/2 pound swiss cheese    }       :^)
    1/2 pound cole slaw       }
    2 bags potato chips       } 

    Hi,
    
    Haven't been noting in a while almost a full year to be exact.
    
    so my name is Tammy Gryniewicz (GRIN_O_WITS) and I work at CFO
    (Concord, Mass), 22 yr old, vette driver, secretary in SR & PD
    for Corporate EEO/AA/Vd.  th th th that's all folks.
    

    I'm Linda Huxtable, a Software Specialist in Software
    Services, Great Plains District in Kansas City.  I've been
    with DEC since October '87, like the company and the work
    I've been doing.

    I'm 28, a homeowner, a non-parent, mildly hearing-impaired,
    and an avid SF reader. Since July '84 I've been married to my
    best friend, John, a fellow programmer and computer nerd.  :) 

    I intend to sit firmly on my hands and be a read-mostly noter
    in this conference.  I'm curious what's interesting to men,
    and whether men communicate differently than women.

    -- Linda

    Since I replied already let me introduce myself.
    
    I'm Ad Vissers, PC and Terminals specialist at the Central Response
    Group in Holland. I work for DEC some three years now.
    
    I am single, 30 years old. Major hobbies are photography, going
    out, reading, computers :-}, talking, and music. When nobody can
    hear me, I occasionally try to play the guitar ...
    
    I think I'll be read-only most of the time, depending on the topics
    discussed. 
    
    Ad

I'm Meredith Daniel, working with DBS (Data Base Systems) West in Colorado 
Springs.  I'm 28, female, and feel too old to be this young.  That came from my 
studies at the School of Hard Knocks.  ;-)

    I just added this file to my list so let me introduce myself.
    
    Ben Tyler  I work in the Quality dept. at GSO. I'm 35 yrs. old.
    A divorced male that doesn't want to stay that way. I read several
    other notes conf. "Friends" the most. I like to get mail from others
    and have several penpals. If I at anytime put something in you want
    to talk about more just send me mail. Or if you just want a penpal,
    send me mail at RAVEN1::TYLER

    
    Discovered this browsing through Easynotes .
    
    Responsible for two overtly sexual notes (out of two) so 
    
    	Name	:	John J Phipps

	Current	:	Consultant with ADG Munich
	Post	:

	Age	:	29 years and 11 months (help!)

	Status	:	Single (but had a couple of close calls)
			Children ( possibly :^) )

	Home	:	Windsor , England

	Likes	:	Participating

	Dislikes:	Violence against women , children and animals
			Loud barking dogs
			Being called a "Brit"

	Ultimate:	To think of something really witty to put on my 
	Goal	:	headstone
    
    
    
    John J   All criticism gratefully received .
    	     All responses hopefully better .
    
    

     name: Chris Boone
     job:  Computer operator
     site; BXB1 and BXB2
           Boxboro, mass.
    
      
       MARRIED WITH CHILDREN.
    

    Rumi Sheryar Gonda      Software Engineer 
    Been with DIGITAL for two years now.  
    
    Reason for being in this and other similar conferences,
    am interested in learning from other peoples experiences
    views, opinions so as to form my own views, opinions, and
    to avoid the pitfalls of life described here.  Am recently
    beginning to ponder about the philosophical aspects of life.
    
    For more personal information please see WHOAREYOU note 957
    or FRIENDS note 2.307.
    
    Because I am very shy in front of people I am not fimiliar with
    at first I have difficulty expressing myself at a personal level 
    and also find it difficult to start a friendship.  (Trying to
    overcome this :-)
    
    NOTES utility is a great tool for me because it allows me to 
    discuss things without being self conscious.  It is my third eye
    to the world.

    Ray Pelkey  EDP Consultant 
    been with DEC for 11 years this last august.
    
    Interests: Photography
    	 Performing Arts (as it lends itself to Rock and Roll)
    
    Married to a wonderful loving wife, have two great kids, and a
    classic american mut.  Guess you could say I sound fairly average.
    
    Well, I am.
    
    Among workign at DEC, aspiring to be a reknouwn photographer, I'm
    also a serios dedicated musician.  I've played gutiar for well
    over 20 years now and am as active as possible in performing.  I'm
    also getting my 9 year old son hooked on guitar as well, so hopefully
    in a few years, I'll be able to enjoy this with him too..
    
    Even though I've been noting and moderating conferences for a few years
    now, I found this conference just recently, (see what happens when you
    read (at long last) the list of available conferences.... 

    
    Ron Brown
    Writer at ZK (Nashua, NH)
    At DEC just over a year, but have spent the last 12 years writing
    	professionally in Virginia and Massachusetts.
    
    Interests: Music, reading, old houses, dogs, cats, food (especially a
    	long Sat. night meal of Thai food with close friends)
    
    Married for 13 years to my best friend (a 9.5 year veteran of DEC)
    
    I've been reading for a while, and may not jump in often, but I'll
    	try to make it worthwhile...

    Linda Saisi

    Software Engineer - APO, assembly process development
 
    I am joining this file to get in touch with men's issues, to hear
    some relatively uncensored male thoughts, and (I'll admit!) to 
    express my own opinions on some issues of interest to men.

    
    
    NAME:  Glen Johnson
    AGE:   21
    OCCUPATION:  CRR for DEC--Colorado Springs
    ORIGIN:  Native New Yorker(Yahnkers), mostly Coloradan, future
             Californian(S.F. Bay Area)
    STATUS:  Single(any question), but searching for the right woman
    INTERESTS:  Sports, music(knowledgeable fan of all types), good
                books, cooking, semi-avid baseball card collector
    NICKNAME:  Dr. G.
    
               
    

    I am Pat Wilson and I work at DVO for Facilities.  I have been at
    DEC for 8 1/2 years.  I am married to a beautiful woman named Nancy.
    No kids unless you count the two cats and two dogs.  I am also involved
    in the Wiccan community in the Denver area.
    
    Blessed Be,
    
    Pat

    I'm Jim Henderson and I work for Field Service Logistics in Andover,
    Ma (Dascomb road).  I've been with DEC for 11.5 years and currently
    am a materials manager.  I've been married for 13.5 years (may not
    make 14) with 3 boys 18,12 and 6. Been in New England for 5 years.
    Been a read only noter here for a month or 2.
    
    
    

    Elizabeth Douglas
    Principal Software Specialist, Automotive District.
    Live in MOTOWN.
    Been married for 5 years to a wonderful man!
    And am wondering what people mean in this notesfile when they refer
    to 'Real Man'.
    I'm 26.
    

    
    	Allow me to introduce myself to you....
    NAME:	Donna Gamester
    AGE :	23
    LOCATED:	Concord Ma.
    DOING:	Temporary Secretary
    MARRIED:	No, I'm in no rush
    KIDS:	No.(See above)
    LIKES:	Alot of things - Music, reading, Psych.,Theatre(I'm
    		a ham), Cartoons, cursing Jane Fonda tapes..Lots of
    		other "stuff" but, I'm boring you now....
    DISLIKES:	Mainly two - Disco and Rap music.  My logic...Disco
    		died around 1977-78 Rap is it's offspring seeking
    		revenge...
    
    	I've been reading the file for some time now and thought that
    I'd better introduce myself...I'm gonna leave myself at that...If
    you would like to write please, feel free.  I've already made some
    friends through the notesfile and am always looking for more(I'm
    greedy alright...:-))I am a nice person...My mom likes me...

       Hi,
           I've been reading this notes file for a while and thought I
       should introduce myself.

           Name:  R. Richard Gray
           Job:   Senior Software Engineer, VRO
                  I've been with Digital for 5 yrs.
       
           Marital Status:
                  I am in the process of ending a 14 yrs+ marriage
                  I have two children
       
           Likes: Discussions on how and why people do what they do,
                  coaching basketball, flying gliders, playing chess
       
           Dislikes:
                  Having discussions (?) with people who keep saying 
                  the same thing only LOUDER.

    Name         :   Daniel Ng (Have fun trying to pronounce it!)
    Sex          :   Male, I hope. Let me check.
    Age          :   26
    In DEC since :   October 1988
    Job          :   Software Specialist (SPB), DEC Malaysia
    Was with     :   Nixdorf Computer for 4 1/2 yrs.
    School       :   U of Toronto and U of Guelph in good ol'Canada
    Interest     :   Atheletics, weight-training and jazzercising
    Marital stat :   Very single
    Race         :   Chinese (actually Manchurian)
    
    Guess that is enough for now. Would welcome any question on anything.
    Discovered this note yesterday and walla! stuck to it! Don't tell
    my boss!
    
    Bye now. Selamat tinggal.

    
    Donald Henninger
    COOP Student for hire
    CXO RA90 manufacturing
    
    Currently pursuing 2nd BS.  First was in math SD School of Mines, 
    this one in computer science Univ of Colo - Colo Spgs.
    
    Occasional househusband, Army reserve officer, and cake decorator.
    
    Married a second time.
    
    4 children;
      1 adopted daughter from second wife,
      2 estranged sons from first wife,
      1 gregarious 6 year old daughter from second wife.
                  
    Don

    Bob McBride
    
    A field service product support guy in a much maligned city on the
    east coast.
    Twice divorced father of two boys (who live with their mother) whose
    interrests lie in doing it yourself.  This includes running, swimming,
    bike rideing on rare occasions doing all three the same day,
    music-with-stringed-instruments, reading and various other activities.
    I heartily recommend you don't eat my cooking, it is edible but
    overspiced.

    my name is henry mensch, and i am with digital's brisbane (australia)
    office where i am currently helping install an athena-type workstation
    environment at a new university on australia's gold coast.  i'm
    originally from new york city, and most recently worked at mit's
    project athena.  while there, i maintained and moderated the internet
    men's issues mailing list.
    
    

    Lynne M. Sigel
    MRO1-1/A65...for fan mail
    Marlborough MA.
    I am an admistrative secretary for TPSEC (Transaction Processing)
    

                  -< new member to conference >-
    
    Bill Knight
    Westfield
    Elect. Syst. Tech I
    been with DEC 16 and a half years, and crying!
    married 4 years have been with her for fourteen
    Recovering drug addict and alchoholic
    softballer
    drummer/singer
    36 years old, still trying to figure out who I am
    Enough intro, I'll be writing in for help!
    

        Name: Greg Teater
        Age: thirty something
        Occ:  Network Project Manager ( Field Service )
        A Deccie for almost 10 years.
        
        My current status is ending a 11 year marriage and
        keeping civil with my ex ( I have two boys 7 & 5).
        
        I am interested in learning more about myself which is
        why I'm here.
        
        previous notes:  Rainbow, Turbo, TCL (I have turned my PC
        off for good)
        
        current:  Music, Guitar, Men (This one here) and I may
        join the Women's notes.
        
        I have been a weekend musician for the past 13 years and
        I find it very enlightening to find all the references to
        music in the previous entries (I just read replies 1 -
        177).
        
        gt (prev. greg_t)
        
        

Name: Becky Mattson
    Location: SCA
    Job: Admin. Secretary, been with DEC, for 3 years now. (current
         job, 3 months)
    Age: almost 35
    Status: divorced for 6 years, (married for 10) 1 son, lives with
            me.
    
    I've been reading Mennotes for a couple of months now, and I would
    like to say, that I have REALLY gotten a lot out of it.  I have
    learned SO MUCH about men, and men's issues, that I really can't
    believe it!  So, thanks guys!  You've taught me that you're not
    all jerks, and can really be neat people with feelings.  I'm not
    trying to be sarcastic or cute, I really mean it. I had some bad
    feelings when I got my divorce, and they are going away, thanks
    in no small part to this Notes conference.  I plan to keep reading,
    and may even respond once in a while.
    
    Thanks, again, guys!  And if anyone wants to, send me some mail.
    I'd like to correspond with anyone out there who is interested.
    
    Becky   oo
            \/

    ...I don't think I ever introduced myself here, so...

    Name: Amy Goldman
    Location: MLO
    Job: Software Engineer, been with DEC a little over a year and a
    	 half
    Age: 23 (almost 24)
    Status: Single
    Interests:  Pretty diverse, actually.  I love music and the arts, 
    	        as well as sports, books and lots of other things.  
		I love to laugh, and I'm trying to get the most I can
    		from life.

    Feel free to send me mail anytime!

	Amy    

    Another newcomer ...
    
    	Guy Bottiglio
    
    	Systems Analyst PK03 (Maynard, Ma.)
    
    	Married, 4 children, 1 grandchild
    
    	Age 51
    
    	Activities -
    
    		Teach programminmg courses evenings Northeastern University
    
    		Square Dancing
    
    		Reading - philosophy, life-styles, self improvement
    
    	Other -
    
    		Almost 1 year into a recovery program - functional
    depression since age 4, not previously detected.
    
    	DEC - Employee 4 years, prior to that contractor priarily DEC
    for about 7 years.
    
    	Before DEC - Burroughs Honeywell Raytheon & a host of others
    ...
    
    

    Hooray!  MENNOTES has moved to a machine which is up most of the time
    and I have quick access to!  I read off/on before, but gave up when it
    was on a machine I could never seem to get to.  Anway...


    Name:  Brian Nelson
    Loc:   ZKO2-1
    Job:   Software Engineer
    @DEC:  Temped last 2 years in college, full time for almost 4 years
           now!  (Gads, *that* long?!)
    Age:   26.5  (that .5 is important ya know!  ;-) )
           Single

    Other: I'm not going to list what I *like* to do, because I'd be old
           (well, *older*) before I finished.  Not too much I don't like
           to do.  Love to joke/laugh/tease with folks, and have a good
           time!  I love to meet and talk with new people, so don't be shy
           if you'd like to make a new friend. See WHOAREYOU #716 for more
           info.


    Brian

    Karen Godin - Corp. Compensation and Benefits in West Concord, MA.
    Married to Ron, who works for GIA in Acton and introduced me to
    this conference.
    Two children, teenagers, one entering college in the Fall.
    Started with DEC as a contractor last September; delighted to be
    a real, full-time, permanent employee.
    

    
    Frank Ciszek - Project Manager, International Engineering 
    		   Mk01  (CUERVO::CISZEK for those who are interested)
    
    Married 15+ years to Fran, 1 daughter (Jackie) age 12.
    Been with DEC for 16+ years. After all these years, still having
    fun.
    Have lived in Nashua for the last 9 years. Coming from Upstate N.Y.
    to here was the best move I could have made....love it!!!

Update: was 2.145
    
    Who: Bob Early (aka AHIKER::EARLY) also known as Bob_the_hiker
    Age: WHO_ARE_YOU 450.2
    Does: CSS/NSG Sustaining Engineering Support
    Where: MKO1-2
    Lives: (home) Leominster, Ma.
    Orientation: Male, polarized toward women.
    Other  interests: Old House, Hiking, Family, Contra Dancing, preserving
    			marriages (my own !).
    Light_of_my_life: Wife Marie Jose, and our (at home) two boys:
    	Stef & Chris Kychler
    
    Amongst other things, its fun learning French on the fly.
    
    When most parents say "My kids seem to speak another language",
    its is euphemism for mis (mz.) -understandings. 
    
    With us, it is  point of fact. 

    I am...
    
    James Bushnell
    Support Specialist
    Discount Reference
    Reading
    UK
    
    Single/Attached to my Girlfriend
    
    17
    
    I've got lots of nicknames. They vary from "Bugsy" to "Gringo" and
    "Hitler" (some people say I look like Bugs Bunny/A Mexican/Adolf
    Hitler)
    
    Likes:
    60's Soul, 
    70's Soul,
              
    Old Scooters ( Lambrettas ). I customise old scooter and will show
    them when they reach a high enough standard.
    
    James.
    

    William Lee  Tech.  Andover Ma.
    
    Still single and having a blast. 
    
    
    All my friends call me Bill, That means all of you too.
    
    
    Bill
    

    Kenneth (Ken) Hopkins
    
    Inventory Controller, Sunnyvale California
    
    25 years old, married with two kids (not as normal as it sounds)
    
    putting everything into life to get as much out of it (intensity...what
    a concept)
    
    final: thanks for the conference. It helps men to be men. Awesome.
    

    Chelsea Christenson
    Senior Software Specialist, SWSE Commercial ACES, Merrimack
    with Digital since October 1987 and noting almost as long
    
    Just poking around....

    
    Michael Lehmann 
    Frankfurt,Germany
    age 29
    single
    individual
    
    
    

    Stefaan Devos
    Brussels, Belgium
    Age : 27
    Single

    
    Wes Mallory
    Marlboro, MA 
    Age: 45
    Married
    Grandpa
    

    Russell Anderson
    Atlanta,Ga.
    Age:30+a pair
    Status:recovering divorced man..got out with a small bit of sanity left
    Kids:boy(8),girl(9)
    Likes:YES!!
    Dislikes:Some.....
    Reasons:A place where I might a little more about.....
    Purpose: In life the best leader does not have an ego...He sets
    	     up the points for everyone else to score...just win baby!!!
    
    	

    
    Robert Holt
    Mt View, CA.
    Age:37
    Status:divorced for 8 years,unattached
    Resident cynic

    Alexis von Croy @ RTO
    RTOIC1,2,3,4
    Munich
    copywriter in MARCOM
    my friends call me sascha...
    
    ...sascha van halen
    sascha senna
    sascha garfield
    sascha hemingway
    sascha costello
    sascha robinson
    sascha bukowski    because I play (play?) electric guitar, drive
    and repair fast cars, try to write short stories, have the same
    glasses, live on an island beeing a former factory building close
    to the woods and...sometimes...like to drink some beer.
    
    
    sascha

    
    HELLO MY NAME IS STEVIE 
    I AM A SENSITIVE YOUNG GUY  (19)
    IM IN AYR SCOTLAND,
    I HAVE FAIR CURLY SOFT HAIR
    DARK COMPLECTION WITH PIMPLES
    I HOPE TO ENJOY THIS CONFERENCE
    
                                                    < STEVIE BOY >

    Name: Rachael
    22 years old
    software engineer
    Stow, MA
    engaged to be married on April 21, 1990!!! (and counting)
    Since I have started reading womannotes-v2, I thought it only fair to
    read mennotes.
                

    Dan Penny. I'm a Process Eng'nr. in Systems Mfg. in Kanata. (Canada)
    I've been reading this notesfile for quite a while now. (Mostly read
    only, so I don't know if I've had any input as of yet). 
    I'm married, (12+ yrs.) and have two wonderful children, Mike 7 1/2,
    and Nebraska, who just turned 5. I've been with DEC 10 years. (And only
    found out about notes about three years ago!)

    LARRY ANDRIES
    AGE: 32 (that can't be, I feel like a very wise 24 year old)
    DEC employee for all of the three months (managed to thaw the hiring
    freeze)
    A die-hard New Yorker living in Los Angeles
    Single and like it that way
    Interests: Writing, photography, youth counseling
    
    A great forum, MENNOTES.  If only men could assemble in person on a
    regular basis to thrash out these issues.  This will do nicely in the
    meantime.  Looking forward to sharing my small corner of the world with
    all of you. 
    
     

    Name    : Jeff Dudman (aka. SKULL_OF_DEATH)
    Age     : 21
    Work at : ZK0-Computer Operator
    
    Likes   :Driving fast, B-Ball, Vodka, My .357 magnum, and
    	     Tom&Jerry/Bugs cartoons.
    
    			 

Hello All,

I've been reading thru this conference off and on for a couple of years,
find it interesting and thought provoking.

I'm Karl Reebenacker, presently a Hardware Test Engineer at FXO, until the end 
of next week. After a much needed week of skiing out west, will start a new job 
at PKO, much closer to home for me.

I'm 37, presently in the process of undoing a 6+ year old marriage, and skiing 
as much as my body, job, wallet, and the weather will allow. I participate in 
several other conferences in read only fashion, actively note in SKIING. Been 
a Deccie for 3.5 years.

I'll probably continue to participate in a 99+% read only mode here, but may
enter a note on occaision.

Name: Phil Rayer
Work: Mech. Tech.
Where: Colorado Springs, Forge Rd.
Married: 22 years
Childeren: 1 thanks god, son 20
Age: 45
Wife: Ellen
Hobbies: Cars, Hiking, camping Dancing, when ever posible, remodling,
mostly my own, hot tubing, try anything once.

This looks like my kind of conference, I love the topics. Its good to here 
how others feel.  

Name:		Andy Brunnock
Work:		EDI Consultant
Where:		Ex-Crescent, Basingstoke, UK (the one that burnt down)
		Now in DEC Park, Reading, UK
Married:	2 weeks :-)
Children:	3 (fast worker), son aged 15, daughter aged 9, son aged 8
Partner:	Carole-Ann
Hobbies:	Not a lot of time at the moment. Don't have time

    
    frank pagliuca
    contractor
    mro1
    
    likes
    camping
    motorcycles (4)
    women
    single
    

    
    So many men, so little time!  So why are all these women in here
    anyway?
    
    			UOB - 49
    			Secretary
    

    
>    So many men, so little time!  So why are all these women in here
>    anyway?


	 Because some of us find it to be a sanctuary from other
	 conferences.

	 I'm here because I'm accepted at face value.......people
	 aren't always trying to find my nonexistent "hidden agenda."


	 kathy

    
    	hello, my name is denise....
    	and i'm an employee at DEC....
    	i was told that there were some men in here willing to 
    	discuss the religious and political significance of the sexes.
    
    	fancy meeting up with ::GALLUP here...small world, eh???

    
    
    I've heard about this conference for quite some time, and decided it
    was time to get involved.
    
    Name:  	   Greg Diercks
    
    Job:	   Principal Ed. Specialist, Chicago (4 years with DEC)
    
    Other Stuff:   I've had ~10 years of operatic training (dramatic
    		   baritone) and still sing as much as my job allows.
    		   I do lots of weddings, etc. (current going rate
    		   in Chicago is $75.00, if anybody out there is
    		   interested).  I'm also the bass section leader for
    		   the Windy City Gay Chorus, one of the premier men's
    		   choruses in the United States.  (And, yes, I'm gay.)
    		   I've never been terribly politically active, but
    		   since I was recently the victim of a gay-bashing 
    		   (no serious injury, but I and several friends were
    		   shot at with a shotgun -- luckily from quite a
    		   distance) I've become somewhat more active in
    		   trying to help the population in generation come
    		   to a better understanding of the gay community.
    		   And, I'm also trying to help the gay community
    		   come to a better understanding of the heterosexual
    		   community.  I don't think either group understands
    		   the other terribly well.
    
    	Well, enough.  I've got a few thousand notes to wade through!
    
    		Greg

    I'm 42, been with DEC for almost 21 years, been married for 2.5
    years, been a Dad for a little over a year.  Life has been quite
    a journey so far, figuring out Who I Am.  In college I thought
    I knew, and I laughed at all those people going through a "search
    for identity."  Then about 10 years ago I woke up and realized
    what the question was, and realized I didn't know the answer
    after all...not a clue.  I've got a pretty good idea now though...
    I think.
    
    

    
    Hello, I'm Denis O' Donnell from Galway, Irl.
    Mostly read only.
    Cheers.
    
    

    
    Name          : Ian J Crossley
    DOB           : 4th April 1965
    Location      : Great Britain
    Occupation    : Programmer for ADG
    Personal bits : Single, Gay e.t.c   
    
    So why inform you all I'm Gay?
    
    Well, if I'm going to reply honestly to topics in this notes file, I
    want to put in exactly what I mean, and not have to edit bits out for
    the sake of an image.
    
    Ian.
    
    

    I'm Hoyt Nelson, a contractor writing DECWindows/C/RDB code in
    Marlboro, MA. I've only just discovered this conference, and I'm amazed
    and delighted that it exists. I've been waiting for a men's movement
    for years. It seems less urgent now, but the need is still there. The
    sky opened up and the sun started to shine, when feminism first hit the
    scene (circa 1970, in my case). Men never coalesced the same way,
    unfortunately.
    
    I used to have fun with it. I used the term "menist" to correnspond to
    "feminist" -- which fit in with my gripe that women out-live men by
    such a large margin. "Menist" == "menaced"?! I had a bunch of buttons
    made up with "54 seconds" inscribed -- which is how long men live for
    every minute women live (analog to the old "59 cent" button). Those old
    radical days. Now I grieve with how few and how poor my friendships
    with men are (I'm an old married guy with kids, home improvement
    projects, a station wagon, the works!).
    
    I look forward to reading this conference, and getting to know some of
    you a bit better -- the community of Notes is a wonderful thing.
    
    - Hoyt

     
    Name: Bob Reilly
    Work: Lead Security
    Where: MILL (MLO) Maynard,Ma.
    AGE  : 35 
    I have been with DEC 2 years, I was born and raised on Long Island N.Y.
    I am married (2yrs) second time around. I use to say proir to my 2nd
    that I was married but now I'm happy".
    I belive in equal rights/pay for all.....
              

    
    Hi. I'm Sylvia Wrigley, working in Mannheim W. Germany.
    
    I have spent alot of time working with women's issues, and I've caught
    myself getting rather one-sided. I sometimes will stereotype men, or
    get overly defensive...I'm hoping involving myself here will keep me
    from getting too one-sided.
    
    I'm single (and happily so), cheerful, and talk alot.
    
    Don't say you weren't warned!
    
    * Sylvia *

    I'm me and enuff said.

    Bill Waxman
    F.C. Technician HLO Hudson Ma.
    22
    single
    read only

    Time for intros..............
    
    Sandie Ucci from DEC in sunny California
    
    I work in Customer Services, (enough for work),
    
    Love boating, fishing, motorcycles, playing cards, NINTENDO!!,
    animals, water skiing, etc.
    
    Decided to come over to mennotes as, womannotes is getting too
    out-of-hand for me.  Some of the "women" (uh-oh, I'm in trouble now!!
    I've said THAT word), seem to take 1 step forward, and 3 steps back.
    Well, I still have MY bra and MOST of my best friends are MEN.
    
    On with the reading............
    
    Sandie
    

    
    Holly Wright
    Sydney
    Australia
    
    My title "Sales Information Systems Administrator".  
    I've been at Digital 3.5 years and started as a computer operator.
    Have been read only for  while now so thought I better annouce myself.
    
    I am doing a part-time course at university and play waterpolo, between
    the two it keeps me pretty occupied.  Enjoy most watersports, reading
    and just about all the other things most people like.
    
    I also note accasionally in WOMANNOTES and FRIENDS and read several
    others.
    
    		Holly

	Mark Boyes
	Reading
	UK

	I sit in a cube writing MAILBUS. Been a man for twenty two years.
	Only started actively discussing "issues" after many of my friends
	came out as gay or bi and started being politically correct at me.

	Sufficiently ignorant of such issues that I don't know whether that
	should be "gay or bi" or "Gay or Bi". Mainly read-only.

    Bill Kohlbrenner
    Software Engineer in Corp. User Publ. Eng., ZKO
    Around Digital in one form or another for ~ 17 years
    54 years old
    Married for 23 years, 4 grown kids, three grandchildren
    Divorced for 5+ years
    
    Started life over again after getting divorced, growing up
    differently this time, enjoying it...

    Jim  "dinz"  Dinsmore
    
    littleton mass
    
    

Kenn Jackson
Colorado Springs
Divorced and remarried
2 wonderful daughters from prior marriage
another wonderful daughter by current marriage
Moderator of NCPI (Non-Custodial Parents Issues)
Advocate for Non-Custodial Parents 

    well, since i finally went and entered a reply after being a read-only
    lurker for some time i suppose i should enter the intro....
    
    i'm dave west...  i work in hlo...  divorced and still divorced...:^)
    one daughter...  personality type?  rotary adjustable...  :^)
    
    				da ve

    Name:		Dave Lewis
    Status:		Married, wife works here in CXO3 also
    Years at DEC:	13, worked as hardware support, now VMS support
    Years on Earth:	36 (soon to be 37)
    
    Enjoyable activities:
    			Sitting on the beach in Jamaica, holding my
    Sweeties hand, watching the sun set on the horizon.
    
    I participate in several other notes conferences also.
    
    		Dave L....

    Hmm, Well, I feel if I want to respond to any topics, I have to
    ID myself, although I feel quite the loner.  Maybe I'll add a fresh
    perspective...
    
    I am a 21 yr old woman who is only temping for a while.  My name
    is Karen Sloane, but I usually sign KarenKay or Kk.  I have decided
    after looking over this file that I will no longer date people my
    age.  All of you "older" (no offense intended) seem/are much more
    my kind of people.  This is one of the most interesting notes in
    the notesfile.  I am currently a secy at MKO2, although I just got
    my BA in May.  This is a summer job, and I hope to move to DC in
    mid-Sept and get a "real" one.
     
    You'll be seeing me around, I don't have too much to do besides
    fool around in here!
    
    KarenKay     

    Who: Debbie Chatham
    
    Where: Tallahassee Florida
    
    What: Customer Services Engineer (Terminals Tech.)
    
    Status: Married, Bobby 
    
    Chains: 2, Sheri, 13, Tommy, 9.
    
    

    I just added a note, and it did good...
    
    That's the person:
    
    Paul Liesenberg
    
    Software specialist ACT Telecom
    
    27, married for 5 years, unfortunately up for mischief now...
    
    No children, though I get along wonderfully well in the age bracket
    between 2-14, guess I'm just as lunatic as they are...
    
    Oh yes, I live in Frankfurt, Germany, and grew up in Spain.
    
    I enjoy everything that is intense and makes me feel like I'm alive,
    lots of sports, hobby-zoologist, I love reading, and I write poems and
    draw (cartoons, water colours) to cultivate my need for creativity. A
    firm believer that life is too short and you shouldn't waste a single
    second doing things you do not believe in.

    	
    	Hi,
    
          My name is Fabian Badillo. I am 22 years old and am employed by
    DEC in Cupertino,Calif.  I am currently an operator but I am also
    trying to attain my BA in the mean time.  At this time, I have no wife,
    no kids, and no clue.  Just a single kind of guy in a single kind of 
    city. Preying on a happening scene.
    
                                            Catch ya on the 7th wave dudes,
                                                        THE FABE
    

    Name:  Mark Stull
    Age:   32
    Where: Lanham, MD, USA
    
    Personal:  Married 4 years, no children quite yet, although that will
               probably change before you read this, as one is due any day 
               now.
    
    Interests:  I play 'cello, and do woodworking, mostly furniture
                building and carving.

    Sorry, I have been reading this for a while, even writing a few replys, 
but forgot to introduce myself!

Vic Hamburger, Unit Manager, Customer Services, IN-DEC region
IND, Marlboro Mass

Married 23+ years, 
two children, son 19 (20 end of this month!), daughter 15

Interests are woodworking and carving, model railroading, photography
Co-moderate several other notesfiles around the net.

    Vic H

    Kelly Costello
    Santa Clara, CA
    
    Female
    
    I've enjoyed participating in this file for about 
    2 months now, it's nice to get a glimps of the 
    "other side".
    

        Name   - Matthew Bagdy
        Age    - 27 years (or is it days ?  I don't remember)
        Gender - Hopefully obvious, male. 
        
        Habits - Bass guitar playing, amature guitar repair/rebuild,
                 and living dangerously.
        Non-
        habits - I don't know.  They aren't habits. (YET!)
        
        Matt
        
        

    
    Name - Estelle Shields
    Age -  Not yet 40 !
    Married 9 years
    Three teenagers 14 - 16 - 18
    Occupation - Admin 
    Past times - Reading, gardening, knitting, rainy mornings with
                 lots of champagne (not necessarily in that order)
    
    
    

    Christine Rainey signing in.
    
    Work:  MLO
    Position: (ok, knock it off!)  Lead Security Officer
    Age: gulp-27
    Marital status:  engaged, married on 10/12/91
    
    I have enjoyed reading this file for quite a while and finally
    started participating little by little.  I also hate these 
    intos (doing them that is!).  I enjoy reading, camping, baking,
    and the list goes on.  I look forward to hopefully meeting some
    of the members here.  
    
    Bob Reilly-I miss you!  Come back!
    
    Christine

    
    Ian Johnston
    Occupation:		Technician
    Age:		20
    Marital Status:	Single
    Location:		South Queensferry, Scotland
    Hobbies:		D.I.Y Car Mechanic, Skiing, Swimming and Having fun.

    Joseph Schlam
    software performance analyst for transaction processing
    2.5 years with DEC, now in Littleton, MA
    
    married with 2 children
    
    mostly read only 

    Tracie Baker
    A & L Support in Dec Park 
    Reading.
    
    
    Support Specialist ....so they say !
    
    23, single, tall 'n' Blonde
    mad,crazy,insane.
    likes : Skiing, drinking, meeting other crazy folk and camokazi skiiers
    !...swimming (even though I drink the pool rather than swim in it !)..
    Riding (or should I say falling off of horses , and only when the fancy
    takes me)...talking, noting, mailing .....and anything else to get out
    of working !
    
    
    dislikes: Carots, racialists, Death park, Canteen food, and people who
    don't like a good p*ss up !
    
    
    known as
    
    Tracie/Peachy T/Treacle/bakertart...
    
    Ofense will be taken if refered to as Trace ! or SHARON ...
    

    Well, it's the same guy of 2.229, but wishing you well this time.
    
    Professionally my (short) time at DEC didn't fulfill my expectations,
    and so I've decided to turn the page.
    
    I really enjoyed the exchanges in this note and learned from it, and so
    I'd like to thank you all for your enriching contributions. 
    
    Life tends to surprise us with some funny turns of fate, so this is not
    a farewell, but rather...
    
    See you & "alles Gute" (*)
    
    ...Paul
    
    (*) nice German goodbye-form, meaning "all the best"!

    Hello all,
    
    I'm Mickwid Lam, a male cooperative student from Hong Kong. I'm
    now working for ISEDA/HK (Internation Software Engineering Development
    Architecture/Hong Kong.) My during in Digital will last to
    30-June-1990.
    
    Very happy to work in such a large company. Hoping that in my time
    in Digital, I can learn more, both from my job and from other
    colleagues.
    
    Hong Kong is nice place. If anyone of you would come to Hong Kong,
    I hope I may give help to you.
    
    
    Mickwid.
    
    
    

    Hi,
    
         My name is Paul & I'm a new user of this conference. I may be a
    'read-only' but you never know...

    Gawd, it's been 4 years since I updated my intro (.59), so...
    
    William J. Buckley (wjb aka Lucifer aka moi aka 'hey you' aka Buck)
    
    Misc interests:
    
    ROLLER COASTERS!!! (see CAVLRY::COASTERS)
    Snakes, wolves, and owls
    Driving to endanger
    Fine wines
    Motorcycles
    Fist fighting
    L O U D  music
    Rolling Rock "33"
    Extreme leftist
    Moshing
    Generally being obnoxious
    Hiking
    Natural disasters  \_____ Can be considered the same thing quite often
    Social gatherings  / 
    "X"
    Playing rock n roll guitar
    Horses
    Discussing politics and religion ];^>
    Harry G. Traver designs
    Beaches
    
    ...and yes, this conference still amuses the heck outta me!

    Hello (wo)men,
    
    Name is (Mr) Hemant Babtiwale
    
    Work : 	QCA (Bangalore, India)
    Title:      Product Engineer, Software
    Age:	26
    Likes:	Music, Books, Movies,  Ham Radio, Photography ....
    
    Joined Digital an year ago.
    Hope to have fun.
    

    Hello y'all,
    
    David Jenefsky
    AGe 20
    ES - Geneva, Switzerland
    
    Interests : Music, design, advertising, etc
    
    Voila, see you around
    
    David

    Hello,
    
    	I'm Chris Hooper, 27 years old and single.
    
    	Born in Springfield, Mass. (father was in USAF). Parents moved back 
    to Greenville, SC (when I was 6 months old) where I have spent my entire
    life.
    
    	I currently work at GSO where I am employed as a Manufacturing Tech
    I. I have been with DEC for 7.5 years.
    
    	BTW, my friends call me........
    
    		-Hoop-                 

    
        Hi,
    
        Dave Savage, 33, male, straight and single.
    
        UK born but RAF father provided an interesting variation on where
        raised... varied from Malta, Singapore, Cyprus, Kenya etc. etc.
    
        Travelled and worked in Europe and the US since then, a lucky bloke
    	with some good friends.
    
        The tech. side is that of business analyst, specialized in CASE tools
        and methods.
    
        Good to meet you.
    
    [

	Karen Barth here.

	I'm a software engineer in the VMS development group.  
	Thirtysomething.
	Separated about 6 months ago after 11 years of marriage.
	Live with 2 cats, Ryan and Tenzing.

	A (sometimes more radical than other) feminist who loves hiking,
	cats, FRP (Fantasy Role Playing for you uninitiated out there),
	good music (usually of the heavy metal kind), pottery, and (most
	days) work.

	Karen.

Since I've started noting here, I may as well introduce myself.

Ken Mattsson

27 years old.

Maynard native.  4th generation to work in the Mill.  Started working for
mother DEC 11 years ago part-time in high school, and have been working on
and off (fulltime, parttime, co-op and temporary) since then.  Presently
a DEC temp looking for permanent work.  Tend to move around node-wise.

Graduated from Hamilton College in Upstate New York (...nestled in the 
foothills of the Adirondacks...) in 1987 with a degree in Linguistics.
Lived in Germany for a summer and Taiwan for one year.  Speak German,
Chinese, Esperanto and currently studying Swedish (check the last name,
that's why 8-) )

Hobbies include Dancing (all kinds), singing (currently lead tenor in 
Scandinavian Chorus), racewalking (knees can't handle the running), bicycling,
orienteering, and other assorted activities that come my way.

Nice to be here,

>>>Ken

    
    Victor (Vick) Lawrence Bennison:  Victor   = conqueror
    				      Lawrence = conqueror
    Do you think my parents had something in mind for me?  :^)
    
    Grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma.  Married twice.  Second marriage in it's
    20th year.  Two daughters (11 and 14).  44 years old.  Ph.D., Computer 
    Science, University of Chicago, 1976.  Taught 2 years at SUNY Binghamton.  
    Worked for Bell Labs in Naperville, IL, for 2 years.  Here at DEC for 
    10 years.
    
    Pursuits:  Genealogy (world's leading authority on the Loop family), 
    	       ham radio (call NO1I), photography, poetry, painting, 
    	       Shakespeare, singing (Souhegan Valley Chorus), stained glass, 
    	       reading, travel.
    Sports:    Tennis (I have a wicked serve, but go to my backhand and 
    	       you will win.)
    
    All that, and yet I suffer from a lousy self-image. :^)  I am a gentle
    non-agressive (except in notesfiles :^) person.

    
    Name:	Bert Elkins
    
    Residence:  Vermont
    
    Job: 	System Operator
    
    Status:     Single, For now...
    
    Job locale: Burlington   BTO
    
    Interests:  4-wheelin, trail biking, Notes, Men's issues, 
                & the list goes on..... 
    

    Greetings,
    
    	My name is Ron Matthews and I'm an Electro-Magnetic Compatibility
    engineer wroking in Marlboro at "the Bubble" behind MRO1.
    
    	I'm originally from Vermont and miss it terribly.  You know the old
    saying, "You can take the boy out of the country but your can't take
    the country out of the boy".  Well, that's me.
    
    	I presently live in Lowell, MA with my wife of 14 years, my 11 year
    old son, my 9 year old daughter, and a very stupid cocker spaniel.
    
    	My interests are martial arts, music, Eastern Philosophy and
    comparative religion (not necessarily in that order).
    
    	I look forward to noting with all of you.
    
    
    				Regards,
    				Ron Matthews

Gee - it's been almost five years since I wrote my last introduction.  How
time flies!

I'm Steve Lionel, your friendly (well, that's a matter of opinion to some of
you!) local host-moderator.  On Friday, June 7 I married Leslie Richardson,
whom I met through the HUMAN_RELATIONS conference two years before.  Leslie
and I live in Nashua, NH, with my son Tom, 7-1/2, and our cat, Moet.

					Steve

    Steve?
    
    is there a responses to introductions in H_R? if so would you 
    move this there....
    
    congratulations and lots of love to you and Leslie and Tommy.
    
    Bonnie

    Steve,
    
    	Congrads!! It gives me a good feeling that marriage is still a
    wounderful instution! NO! I am not going to say, 'But who wants to live
    in an instution!!'.  
    
    	Maybe its a good moment for me to introduce myself. My name is 
    George Rauh. I work in MK0, am in the final rounds of a divorce, have
    custody of my three year old daughter, Eva, and custody of three house
    cats. 
    
    George

    David Wadleigh
    married, 2 daughters
    pushing 40
    Sales Support
    usually read only, or even not-reading
    Calgary, Alberta

    George Rauh
    Divorced
    Custody of 3 year old daughter
    pushing (ahem) something of 40
    TCC 
    Merrimack N.H.

    Jerry Beeler
    Divorced
    Kids in Texas
    Sales
    Bakersfield, California

John Hicks-Courant

Married father of two girls

Freshwater Environmental Activist

Proposal Writer

Home is northeastern Massachusetts

    My name is Hoyt Nelson, and I'm a Note-aholic.
    
    This has been too much fun, and has taken too much time, so I'm out of
    here for a while. Keep the controversy (and the firm handshakes) warm
    for me... I'll be back.

    Rick Fritz
    27 yrs
    Single
    California (San Diego) native residing
      in Exeter NH
    Material Analyst/Logistics
    
    Like:  Swimming; camping; traveling; reading;
           weight-lifting and saunas!
    Hate:  Complainers; bugs; Andrew Dice Clay;
           incompetence and a dirty house.
    

    Hi,
    
    John Bex, married, two kids of 9 and 12 years old, and 37 of age.

I confess...I've been a very quiet r-o for some time now....so, I'll stand
up and make a better target...8^}

I am middle-aged, female, software specialist type out in Silicon Valley...I
like my job when I get to design and program - I suffer through the more
esoteric stuff.  I especially like designing and messing around with DBMS
databases (elegant stuff) and ACMS, my favorite software development tool
set...again, I appreciate the clean elegance of it.

Personally, I love my five four-legged housemates, cat Missy Hannah, cat
Dilly, cat Samson, cat The Jersey Flash, and dog Sadie....and I am very
fond of my best friend and two-legged housemate, Marge.  I am unmarried,
and always have been - no offense, gentlemen, I lust after/like/adore/love
men, I just haven't had the right opportunity when I was young and idealistic
enough to belive I could pull it off.  Now, I fear, that window of opportunity
is forever past...not that any man that I know of is mourning over this, mind
you.  I am fat and I have red hair.  the rest is pretty ordinary except for
my slightly demented sense of humor - for which I am somewhat noted amongst
my co-workers.

I find that the conversations here are illuminating... sometimes they make me
laugh out loud with pleasure as ideas are lobbed about...sometimes, the
opinions expressed here also make me very, very sad.  Very rarely, an idea
or opinion even gives rise to a feeling of frustration.  Par for the course, 
I believe.

I promise to listen attentively, and try to keep my thoughts to myself unless
I think they can ADD something to a stream....

So, can I visit occasionally?

Hi,

Name is Bob, been working for Dec for 4+ years, now in MLO.
Divorced, two great kids.
I'm 34 (but working on 21).
I like sports, reading, music, motorcycle and out having fun.
Mostly a read-only noter (in many people-oriented conf. (HR, Soap, etc.)
and in sports related one, oh and yes some even work related!!)
This conference is great to get all points of view on topics, many that 
really hit home........

see ya,
	

    I'm Laura Steinhart.
    
    I'm married, and have a baby daughter.
    
    I work as a tech writer in Littleton, Mass. and have been in the
    industry 14 years, mostly in the field.
    
    I really enjoy this conference, and hope you don't mind hearing a
    woman's opinion now and then.  By the way, one of my favorite magazines
    is Esquire.  A bit of wit makes my day.  I find the company of women to
    be like matzoh balls - nutritious and tasty, but tends to be heavy.  I
    find men to be like seltzer - refreshing!  And a twist of lemon - ahhh!
    
    Thanks for being you!
    

    Hi,
    
    I'm Janice Cassin, a consultant from the CUIP External Consulting
    group.  I've been read-only for a week or so now, but will undoubtly
    begin chattering in this file soon.
    
    Nice to meet you.
    
    -Janice

    Hi,
    
    I'm Jonathan "but my friends call me Hamp" Hampton, a hardware
    engineer in the ECAD System Simulation Group at MSO1.  Married
    to a wonderful woman, Tamara, and father of a radical 18 month old
    son, JC.
    
    Good to be here.
    
    Hamp

Hi,

Wendy Boards, long time occasional reader, ex-pat Brit in Holland for the
last 6 years, about to return to Blighty next week.  I find this conference
really enlightening at times; the disparity in opinion and attitude
doesn't make the way men think much clearer, but it does prove fascinating
reading !


-W

    
    robert holt, (back with my original username)
    
    yes, its fascinating reading, and edifying as well..

    Michael Zarlenga, checking in.

    Holey smokes!  "He-of-the-infinte-personal-name-variation" has
    returneth to the fold.  Welcome back, Mike.
    
    Kris

    Thanks, Kris, it's good to be back.
    
    And to Dwight B ... yo!
    
    You'll be seeing more of me around here in the future...

    
    
    Hi ya'll, Bob Montville (friends call me Monty).  I've been with
    DEC for almost 15 years.  Most of the time in some sort and fashions
    with Customer Services.  I am married and have three (growing to
    fast) children.
    I have many outside interest, especially GOLF.  I am the Deputy
    Fire Chief in my town and have served on the department for 21 years.
    I am also a part time police officer (rent-a-cop) in the same town.
    
    Majority of the time is "read-only".
    
    See ya-
    Monty

Karl Reebenacker

Software Test Engineer in USS/SECG at PKO, formerly a hardware test engineer.

Avid Skier, for 25 winters and counting, and Pool Player (mostly 8-ball, but 
am playing more 9-ball and straight pool lately, and getting better).  Pool is
experiencing a real surge in popularity, and there are nice pool rooms opening
all over, where you can bring a custom cue without a hassle.  I'll never play
in a bar again.  More women are taking it up, too, which I find refreshing.

Getting married in about 3.5 months, second time around for both of us, got it
right this time.  No kids of my own, but have stepped into an instant family 
with my fiance and her son, a very bright, headstrong 17 year old, talk about 
culture shock.  He's a good kid, but sometimes I think I'm doing penance for 
all the grief I gave my parents.

My political leanings tend to be right of center, the only exception might be
that I'm pro-choice on the abortion issue.  On men's/women's issues, would
consider myself an "equalist".  Affirmative Action, or anything else that might
have the effect of punishing me for the sins of my ancestors, is kind of a hot
button.

Have been a 99+ percent read-only noter in this conference on and off since I've
been a Deccie, 5+ years.  It's been interesting and thought provoking, lately
have been reading 716.* with interest.  From 716.0, I'd consider myself a 2 or 
5, depending on when you asked me, definitely not a 1, 3 or 4.

There are times when I've considered entering a reply to some of the more
controversial notes.  But, to me, some of the more interesting notes often seem 
to turn into platforms for pushing the agenda of one or two noters who tend to 
bury those notes under the sheer weight and volume of their replies, while they 
seem, to me, to be trying to invalidate the opinions or feelings of anyone who 
disagrees with them.  It doesn't seem to be a style of noting that promotes 
understanding, more like it seems to put people on the defensive and tends to 
polarize them.  Probably because of my own perspective, to me it's more 
noticeable coming from a small number of strident feminists who note here.

When this happens, this doesn't feel to me like a place where men's issues can
be freely discussed, and for this reason I'll probably continue to be a mostly 
read only noter here.  I'd like it to be different, but haven't figured out how 
I can participate actively without helping to perpetuate the problem.

Interesting reading, though.

	Ray Hayes
	Information Systems Specialist
	DECTemps

	Keywords:

	Musician,Buddhist/Taoist,macrobiotic at home,sci-fi,folk music,
	blues,programming,Shim Gum Do,Zen,Telemark,bicyling,hiking,b.9/25/60,
	Portsmouth, NH., Compuserve 76616,2500

	Other and Conference Specific Info:

	Primarily a readonly noter here though I've added one or two and
    	replied every so often.
    
 	Path to current exploration of being:

	Marriage->Marriage Counseling->Divorce->Individual Therapy->
	Group Therapy(5 men/4 women) evolved to current Men's Group(5 Men)
    
                         

    
      Carl Scarborough
      Advanced Semiconductor Development
      Hudson MA.
    
      Hello folks,
    
         I've been a read only note until now.  Tonight I replied to a
    note, so I thought it would be only descent to introduce myself here.
    It's a pleasure to meet everyone.
    
          Carl S.
    
    
                  Carl S.

    Well, since I've begun replying here and there, I figured it was about
    time I introduced myself.  
    
    Shilah Bartholomeus, born and bred in the Pacific Northwest 22 years
    ago.  Working as a Project Specialist in association with the SMARTS
    Program.  Currently getting the Integration Services Group up and
    running for the BBG (Boeing Business Group) to help redeploy resources
    that will be transitioning off the program over the next year.
    
    Interests include everything from *real* camping to the theatre to lazy
    afternoons reading a book.  
    
    I've tremendously enjoyed the conversations in here thus far, and look
    forward to many more.
    
    Shilah (and that's pronounced shy-la, btw)
    
    :-)

	Now that ::DENISE has qualified me as a successful noter
	by acknowledging I had a good point, it's time to introduce
	myself.

	I'm Jim Wiechmann, fom the Chicago Loop Office, doing goofy
	sales support kinds of things.  I used to be a software
	engineer back in New Hampshire -- even worked with Vick
	Bennison while I was there.

	I've been reading for awhile.  I'll only write when I have
	something I think is worth saying.

	-Jim

    <something I think is worth saying>
    
    as with all of us
    
    of course judgement is not uniform among any random sample of humans
    

    
    
    
    				@ @
			         > 
				\_/
    
    

    .284
    
    Yha know Victor!! Wow! Guess everyones got a cross to bare.......:) How
    long have you had this afliction? Hope its not fatel....... .)

    Don't worry George, I'm not bringing anything more lethal than my mouth
    to the party.  :^)
    					- Vick

	Worse than that -- I actually *like* Victor, *respect* Victor,
	and *admire* Victor, especially for his child-rearing abilities.

	He does look pretty silly in a wig, though.

	-Jim

    OHHH! Vicks a lumberjack and he's O.K.
    He sleeps all night and he works all day!!!!
    
    Vicks a cross dresser?? Gee. I am happy for him.
    
    Jim,
    
    	I am glad you adore Vick. And I hope that if the two of you elope
    and try to have children together. Lemme know if your sucessful. Cause
    some folks at the National Inquire wanna know. :)
    
    With much Humor
    George

    Point of information:
    
    I wore the wig for a part in a play wherein I was supposed to be a
    25 year old ->MAN<-.  That's ACTING when your a 43 year old bald guy.  
    It was tough even with the wig.  I got a lot of laughs, but that's okay, 
    it was a comedy.  :^)
    					- Vick
    
    P.S.  Thanks, Jim, for the adulation.  ;^)

    G'day,
    
    My name is Sunil Sethi and I have been in Australia for 2 years but I
    don't know how long I am going to be here.  I am working at the CSC.
    
    I enjoy sports but I can not do much because of my back so I do yoga
    and meditation.  I am married to a French lady who is typically French.
    
    Sunil

>    Looking forward to discussing MEN things in this notes conference.

 Prepare for a major disappointment...

    Gentlemen:-)
    
    Thought it was time to introduce myself.
    
    My name is Ellen Wilkes
    I'm helping in the Fresno Office (for a while)
    I have a background in accounting and programming (etc)
    I am considered a "California Girl" (love to swim)
    One of my most favorite hobbies is playing the "Devil's Advocate"
    hope you guys in 731 will forgive me I didn't have your codes for
    expressions:-)
    
    Nice to meet all of you and I'm looking forward to noting with you (for
    a while)
    

    Hi,
    
    I'm Michael Tillison, originally from Tennessee but transplanted to
    Colorado 15 yrs ago.  I am a new Digital employee.  I just jumped ship
    from TRW.  I've been married 13 yrs and have 2 kids/boy 12/girl 7.  
    I live in Aurora, CO and commute to Colorado Springs to CX01-2 where I
    am a security consultant. I enjoy reading, golf and excercise but spend
    most of my time ironing/doing laundry/bathing kids/doing elementry
    school homework/cooking/mowing/and generally fixings things that break
    around the house. I'll be talking to you.

    G'dday,
    
    Peter McCallum (Software Licensing Specialist) calling from Sydney.
    Have been married (to another Digit!!) for just over 8 years.  Looking
    forward to this conference.  Hope to contribute occassionally.

    Daniel Katz
    
    DECTEMP currently searching and searching for a more fulfilling career.  
    
    I'm a recent graduate of the M.A. program in creative writing at Johns
    Hopkins which means I'm highly qualified to either starve or continue
    working as a DECTEMP.
    
    I'm pretty active as a noter on some other files -- I've been read-only
    for about 6 weeks here and am tired of feeling like a voyeur.  Don't
    know how much I'll actually note though.
    
    peace (and other out-of-fashion stuff)
    
    Daniel

    Dan, 
    
    Thats now Peace, Love, and Surrand Wrap!:_)

    hi !

    iam nasser, i live and work in the beautiful suburban city of Nashua,
    iam told iam a software engineer, and i will be hanging around this
    notes files to learn more about contemporary mens issues and their fears and
    aspirations .

    do people scream at each others much in this notes file ?

    thank you very much, and look forward for future discussions about
    this many multitude facets of topics. 

    /nasser

>    do people scream at each others much in this notes file ?

 Habit.

    >> do people scream at each others much in this notes file ?
    
    Do bears poop in the woods? ;^)
    
    

    <<< Note 2.301 by AIMHI::RAUH "I survived the Cruel Spa" >>>

    � Do bears poop in the woods? ;^)
    
    Does a pork chop float ? Think about it.
    
    - acp

Wally Neilsen-Steinhardt

I was raised as a typical guy in the 1950s, with maybe a little more freedom 
to think for myself and maybe a little less freedom to have feelings.  Since
I was the smallest/weakest guy in my class from kindergarten to high school,
I lived in a state of passive rebellion against a lot of guy stuff.

I acquired the hyphen when I married, twenty years ago.  Seemed like a good 
idea at the time.  I am still happily married.  No children.

A few years ago, I got to thinking about a lot of things that were missing 
from my life.  Curiousity has finally overcome repeated warnings against
this conference, so here I am.

I've been noting here for a little while, now, so it seems only fair that
I introduce myself:

My name is Jon Tanguy (pronounced Tanguay).  I'm a 26-year-old Manufacturing
Engineer for the CXO Small Form Factor disk business.  We build 3.5", high-
capacity SCSI and DSSI drives; and we're actually making money!  I first worked
with DEC in 1987 as a summer co-op, and hired on permanently in 1989.

I got my EE degree in 1988 from the University of Colorado in Boulder (Go 
Buffs!).  My parents marched with MLK in Chicago in the '60s, so between my 
upbringing and the place I got my college education, I ended up being pretty
liberal.  I think I'm stuck that way, even after living for 4 and a half years 
in Colorado Springs!  

I'm single. I enjoy hunting & fishing, most spectator sports, the Colorado 
Buffaloes, the Denver Broncos (oh, you guessed), the Denver Nuggets, boy toys 
(that is, cars, 4x4's, motorcycles - I ride a Ninja ZX6, stereo equipment, etc),
real rock-n-roll (I really dig this new "grunge" thing!), and, um, girls.

Pleased to meet ya!