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Title:Racers and Racing
Notice:As long as it's not NASCAR or F1 or Drags...
Moderator:RHETT::BURDEN_D
Created:Tue Aug 08 1995
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:391
Total number of notes:4486

49.0. "1995 IndyCar note" by AIMTEC::BURDEN_D (A bear in his natural habitat) Mon Oct 17 1994 15:36

1995 IndyCar Schedule

Miami, FL                    Mar-5        ABC
Surfers Paradise, Australia  Mar-19       ABC
Phoenix, AZ                  Apr-2        ABC
Long Beach CA                Apr-9        ABC
Nazareth, PA                 Apr-23       CBS
Indianopolis, IN             May-28       ABC
Milwaukee, WS                Jun-4        ABC
Detroit, MI                  Jun-11       ABC
Portland, OR                 Jun-25      ESPN
Elkhart Lake, WS             Jul-9       ESPN
Toronto, Ontario, Canada     Jul-16       ABC
Cleveland, OH                Jul-23       ABC
Brooklyn, MI                 Jul-30       ABC
Lexington, OH                Aug-13       ABC
Louden, NH                   Aug-20  ESPN & ESPN2
Vancouver, BC, Canada        Sep-3       ESPN
Laguna Seca, CA              Sep-10  ESPN & ESPN2
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49.1misc.PCBUOA::PLATTTue Oct 18 1994 09:586
    Oh god -- Paul Page commentary 90% of the season -- aarghhh!!
    
    Dave, I'm ashamed of you.  "Louden"????  Really
    
    
    
49.2not my fault....honest....AIMTEC::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatTue Oct 18 1994 11:373
Sorry, missed the typo - I pulled the schedule off the internet.....

Dave
49.3Say it ain't so...NETCAD::CARUSOWed Oct 19 1994 22:516
    
    Please tell us your kidding. This means us Bostonians on Cable are
    going to miss the entire season while we watch "Star Search"...aaaarrrgghh.
    
    Ken
     
49.4Suggestion? TNPUBS::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LKGThu Oct 20 1994 08:579
    Actually WCVB was better this year.  They only pre-empted two of the
    ABC-covered Indycar races, a huge step up from 1993, when I think they
    only carried Long Beach and Indy.  They also carried both ABC NASCAR
    races.  If all you race fans out there get a thank-you letter out to
    WCVB, it might convince them to carry the majority of races in 1995 as
    well.

    If we thank them for doing the right thing, rather than beat them up
    for being anti-racing bigots, we might have more success.
49.5IRL '96 rules released?TNPUBS::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOTue Dec 20 1994 09:2311
    I've seen some cryptic messages on r.a.s.indy that imply Tony George
    and the IRL have released their 1996 chassis rules.  I have seen no data
    on the rules, though.  Tony Bettenhausen said that he expected the
    rules to reduce the size of the 1996 Indy 500 field, which implies the
    current generation cars could not be easily retrofitted to meet the '96
    regs.

    Does anyone have more details on the new regs, or a pointer to same?

    Thanks,
    George
49.6Any news on Goodyear? Scott that isBRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @13k music to my earsWed Dec 21 1994 09:013
    Anybody know if Goodyear has signed with a team yet ?
    
    Fred
49.7TNPUBS::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOWed Dec 21 1994 11:187
    Re: Goodyear
    
    No word yet.  Supposedly he is very close to completing a deal with
    Walker to pair up with Robby G., but of course gaining sponsorship is
    the key problem.
    
    George
49.8precision measuring devicePROXY::J_EVANSMon Jan 16 1995 12:1612
    During the NER SCCA's annual banquet - this past weekend, I had
    breakfast with Ted Goddard from NHIS. He was talking about the INDY
    cars and how some of the drivers were complaining about slight bumps,
    like where new pavement was put down, etc.....
    
    He had asked some of the top teams how they adjust the ride height and
    was told "we put a piece of duct tape across the bottom. If it has
    scratches after practice, it's ok. If no scratches, it's too high".
    
    Nothing like getting as close as you can......
    
    jim
49.9bra sizePCBUOA::PLATTTue Mar 07 1995 15:3312
    Not sure where this belongs since it's a "trivia-type"/joke question
    based on Sunday's Miami race, so here goes:
    
    	If anyone saw Paul Tracy walking back to his pit after
    	he hit the wall, what size BRA must he wear?
    
    IMHO, that was grotesque (of course, I hate anyone -especially
    	male - who has bigger boobs thanI do??!?!
    
    
    
    
49.10TNPUBS::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOTue Mar 07 1995 16:145
    My wife made a comment about that too.  Must be a female thing :-).
    
    (Memo to Paul: think about a salad.)
    
    George
49.11PROXY::J_EVANSTue Mar 07 1995 16:542
    boob envy?  :-)
    
49.12okay, back to the serious stuff......AIMTEC::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatWed Mar 08 1995 09:1127
Pos  Driver                Nat  Chassis-Engine              Time
----------------------------------------------------------------
 1.  Jacques Villeneuve    CDN  Reynard95-Ford XB        90 laps
 2.  Mauricio Gugelmin     BR   Reynard95-Ford XB         +1.022
 3.  Bobby Rahal           USA  Lola95-Mercedes 108       +1.351
 4.  Scott Pruett          USA  Lola95-Ford XB            +2.030
 5.  Christian Fittipaldi  BR   Reynard95-Ford XB         +5.082
 6.  Raul Boesel           BR   Lola95-Mercedes 108       +5.230
 7.  Christian Danner      D    Reynard94-Ford XB        +15.720
 8.  Jimmy Vasser          USA  Reynard95-Ford XB        +54.446
 9.  Danny Sullivan        USA  Reynard95-Ford XB        -1  lap
10.  Bryan Herta           USA  Reynard95-Ford XB        -3 laps
11.  Adrian Fernandez      MEX  Lola95-Mercedes 108      -3 laps
12.  Dean Hall             USA  Lola95-Ford XB           -3 laps
13.  Robby Gordon          USA  Reynard95-Ford XB        83 laps  Accident
14.  Eddie Cheever         USA  Lola95-Ford XB           83 laps
15.  Al Unser Jr.          USA  Penske95-Mercedes 108    83 laps
16.  Teo Fabi              I    Reynard95-Ford XB        83 laps  Header
17.  Eliseo Salazar        C    Lola95-Ford XB           83 laps  Spun
18.  Dennis Vitolo         USA  Reynard94-Mercedes 108   83 laps  Turbo
19.  Eric Bachelart        B    Lola94-Ford XB           83 laps  Suspension
20.  Michael Andretti      USA  Lola95-Ford XB           49 laps  Accident
21.  Andre Ribeiro         BR   Reynard95-Honda          47 laps  Accident
22.  Stefan Johansson      S    Penske94-Mercedes 108    46 laps  Gearbox
23.  Alessandro Zampedri   I    Lola94-Ford XB           34 laps  Accident
24.  Emerson Fittipaldi    BR   Penske95-Mercedes 108    24 laps  Engine
25.  Gil de Ferran         BR   Reynard95-Ilmor D        14 laps  Gearbox
49.13STAR::KINGWed Mar 08 1995 18:024
Re. a couple back.

Yeah, I noticed.  Anyone see the recent Seinfield where Kramer invented
the Bro for George's father?!!
49.14Sternum support?VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyTue Mar 14 1995 23:124
    I don't follow indy racing, but I'll bet whatever paul tracey was
    wearing helped keep his chest from spliting open upon impact with
    a stationary object.  Given the choice of wearing a "bra" or being
    carted off in the meat wagon, I'd take the bra. 
49.15Surfer's Paradise was funLEMAN::SIMPSONStephen Simpson@GEO, DTN:821 5105Mon Mar 20 1995 04:0112
Well Michael Andretti must HATE Bobby Rahal this morning ;-) !!

Rahal's unrelenting pressure caught up with Andretti, causing him to touch the
barriers half way round the final lap. So Rahal inherits Andretti's second
place, and rubs it in by stopping to pick the guy up on the colling down lap!

Seriously, all credit to Newman-Haas, Tracy (and nearly Andretti) - they've come
bouncing back with a vengeance. Rahal showed what a superb driver he is - and
how much class he's got.

What's gone wrong with Penske - are they putting their effort into the ovals?

49.16STAR::KINGMon Mar 20 1995 12:429
Yeah, I enjoyed this race.  I'm happy for Paul Tracy, I hope he continues to
do well and win a few.  Though yet again, Michael looked to be real strong
and if he hadn't had gearbox problems may have run away with this one.

As for the Penskes, I think this is just racing luck (or bad luck).  Al had
2 stop and go penalties - he's own fault - but that put him well out the
running.  Its too early to cound them out yet!

martin
49.17ABACUS::STEVENS_MWed Apr 26 1995 18:0210
    Is it me, or over the last 10 years or so the Indycars have had lousy
    rolling starts? 
    
    That was always one of the big deals about Indycars vs. say F1.
    
    I know they did give them the green first time by at Long Beach, but
    couldn't they get this straightened out?
    
    
    Mark
49.18Ve vill haff clean starts!LJSRV2::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOThu Apr 27 1995 09:5624
    It does seem to be an ongoing problem.  I was at Nazareth this past
    weekend, and aside from the first three rows, everybody was all over
    the place on the start.  So it's not limited just to street circuits. 
    The series is so competitive now, it makes the motivation to shoot for
    the tiniest advantage too attractive to pass up.

    One possible way to make changes is to announce at a driver's meeting
    that "we'll keep doing yellow flag starts until you nitwits line it
    up," then DO IT and keep doing it at every race until they get the
    message. Also, don't drop the green until the front row is almost at
    start/finish (NASCAR handles this very well), and penalize the hell out
    of people who jump the start. (Passing under the yellow is illegal, you
    know :-) ).

    A long time ago, the widely feared USAC chief steward, Harlan Fengler,
    made this one of his prime hot buttons.  An entire generation of
    drivers came up in an environment where clean starts were mandatory and
    you got your ass kicked if you didn't fall in line. NASCAR doesn't seem
    to have the problem, although that may be because a Winston Cup car
    doesn't accelerate as well as an IC.  Perhaps we need some dictatorial
    behavior from the officials on this subject.  Think of it as training
    the next generation. :-)
    
    George
49.19Be strict!ASABET::JROGERSFri Apr 28 1995 11:596
    Indy did this for a while.  No start unless everyone was lined up.  
    There was some disaster at the start and for the next few years they
    were very strict.  It is easier to do at Indy with the visibility 
    around to Turn 4 and down the front straight.
    
    Jeff
49.20GoABACUS::STEVENS_MFri Apr 28 1995 16:3622
    I agree with the last two noters, be strict.
    
    They always have said you can't win the race on the first lap which is
    true. With the talent the IndyCar series has, they could get this 
    straightened out rather easily I would think. 
    
    I'd suggest that they practice it a bit. For the drivers coming into
    the series that are not used to ovals or the rolling start, why not
    practice it? 
    
    I would agree to have them yellow flag the start as long as
    the laps did not count until they went green initially.
    
    I remember hearing something at the 500 a couple of years ago that they
    actually like them "strung out" so as to reduce the risk of an accident
    at the start.
    
    Maybe a write in campaign to Andrew Craig and/or Tony George would
    help...
    
    
    Mark
49.21I brought the ball...where'd everyone go???POLAR::RENAUDPTue Jun 13 1995 09:4722
    
    There is still a season going....at least up here we get the coverage.
    
    It appears as though the points race is looking more like a Nascar
    series, what with a new points leader every race or so. This will make
    the racing alot more exciting throughout the season, unlike last year.
    With Penske, and little Al, being so dominant last year the season was
    so unbalanced that the races weren't even fun to watch. IMO it would be
    interesting to see the championship go to one of the so-called Brat
    Pack ( Gordon, Villeneuve, or Tracy ). But it would also be nice to see
    Scott Brayton finally get one. That would be especially good for
    Firestone in their first year back.
    
    I wonder if Andretti will get that elusive win he's fought for this
    season. At the end of the 94 season when I heard of the Newman/Haas
    team line up of Andretti and Tracy, I figured it would be Michael
    upstaging Paul all year, but it appears I was wrong. Michael is
    consistantly faster than the rest of the cars, and really does deserve
    to win one.(even though I hate the BUM)
    
    Pablo
     
49.22LJSRV2::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOTue Jun 13 1995 14:545
    Re: last, do you mean Scott Pruett?  Brayton is (was) on Goodyears.
    
    I agree, it's a great, really competitive season.
    
    George
49.23OOPS!!! DARN FINGERS.....POLAR::RENAUDPTue Jun 13 1995 16:378
    Of course I meant Pruett!! The name was on my mind but it didn't
    transform to my fingers very well.
    
    You seem to know alot about this sport, George. It's nice to see a
    fanatic like myself!
    
    Pablo.
    
49.24LOST UP HERE!!!POLAR::RENAUDPWed Jun 21 1995 12:5111
    Anyone hear anything on the race in Portland this weekend? 
    Up here in the "Great White" we don't get a lot of coverage of the
    qualifying or an pre-race news (unless Jacques or Paul crash, get pole,
    or do something interesting). 
    Any news on the qualifying??
    
    In note 49.0 it says this is being telecast by ESPN, which we dont get
    so I wonder if I'll see the race at all.
    
    Pablo
     
49.25LJSRV2::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOWed Jun 21 1995 13:537
    Re: last
    
    Qualifying doesn't start until Friday.  TSN carries each race live in
    Canada, I believe.  Check note 99.last for the latest coverage
    details.
    
    George
49.26Unser was disqualified.VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flySun Jun 25 1995 22:322
    Al Unser jr. got disqualified as race winner.
    Vasser is the winner.  I don't know what happend.
49.27You can drive fast, but you can't hide!!!POLAR::RENAUDPMon Jun 26 1995 09:2211
    It was reported that upon a post race inspection, Little Al's car was
    below the 2 inch ground clearance which is regulated. That would
    certainly explain the smoke coming out from under his car and the
    constant bottoming out on the bumpy course.
    
    All I have to say on this matter is ......HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
    
    I guess that number 1 plate is a curse for some people!
    
    Pablo
     
49.28STAR::KINGMon Jun 26 1995 10:119
Great race, I enjoyed it.  Lots of changes and close racing.  Al certainly
had a lot of smoke from the plank rubbing along the track all through the
race, I was surprised he hadn't worn away a 2 inch height gap by the end!

Michael punted 2 others off this race - Herta and then Johanson on the last
corner of the race.  He drives like I play Indy Car Racing on my PC - except
I have 'No crash damage' on my car, how does he manage it ? :-)

martin
49.29"You got a burning permit?"JARETH::WIGGINSMon Jun 26 1995 12:0316
    Yeah, I really enjoyed the race too.  That was a great move 
    Al put on Villeneuve---faked him right out of his jacques, you 
    might say.
    
    It's really not that surprising to find out that Al's car was 
    too low. I can't recall seeing a wood fire under an Indy car 
    before.
    
    And, yup, Michael is taking up right where his old man left off.
    If you can't pass 'em, punt 'em.  (Even if they're parked at the 
    time!)
    
    Looking forward to the NHIS race.
    
    Ken
    
49.30"I'll bring the marshmallows!"CTHQ::EHRAMJIANSanka...Ya Dead?!Mon Jun 26 1995 12:5711
    I had heard that little al got DQ'd, and so I came here to see if it
    was true.  Well, well, well, what's the word on how Roger is taking
    this?  I, too, thought it quite odd to see that only Al was smoking
    going round the course and noone else, not even Emmo.  (This of course
    does not include smokin tires from locked-up brakes!)
    
    The commentators weren't joking when they said Al had is car dialed
    with lots of down force 8*O
    
    Carl
    
49.31NOVA::BOIKOMike BoikoMon Jun 26 1995 16:548
    re .30
    
    >The commentators weren't joking when they said Al had is car dialed
    >with lots of down force 8*O
    
    ....and very light springs..
    
    						-mike-
49.32You could see under Unser's car, sometimesBRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @17.5K music to my earsMon Jun 26 1995 17:4213
    Did CART bring in the plank rule that F1 is using ?
    
    You could see all the way under Unsers car on some of the views during
    the race. Did he lose because the plank is worn, if so he should have
    pulled in on the first corner.
    
    Unser seemed more happy than usual I think there is a lot of pressure
    to win (him being number 1 and all) no to  mention Indy.
    
    I haven't heard anything on this, so keep the info coming.
    
    Fred
        
49.33LJSRV2::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOMon Jun 26 1995 20:1810
    Re: last
    
    No, but CART has a longstanding ride height rule.  Combined with soft
    springs, a lowered ride height will increase downforce by making the
    shaped underbody more efficient in generating negative lift.
    
    Penske uses the F1-like Jabroc panels for protection.  The plank rule
    would only be effective with a flat-bottom formula.
    
    George
49.34The Curse of the Red #1CTHQ::EHRAMJIANSanka...Ya Dead?!Tue Jun 27 1995 10:1513
    Little Al, must be under tremendous pressure, considering the thromping he
    and his Penske teammates did last season.  Then there is also the "red
    #1 curse.
    
    Still, I wonder what's happened to Roger's operations?  I mean to go from 
    a hugely successfull season to a mediocre one, has parity reached CART?  
    Are they beginning to feel some pressure from the pending IRL?
    
    Secretly, I am glad to see that they aren't dominating again.  Last
    season was a bore...this season has turned out to be very, very
    interesting.
    
    Carl (the arm chair race driver)
49.35DQ ProtestASABET::JROGERSWed Jun 28 1995 07:3855
    Following is a statement from Galles team protesting the
    disqualification of Little Al.
    
    
    
    
    The following is text of the protest Team Penske has filled following the
    disqualification of Al Unser Jr from the Budweiser/G.I. Joe's 200:
    
    6/25/95  Portland Oregon
    
      Penske Racing hereby protests the decision of the stewards to disqualify
    Al Unser's car as the winner of the Portland Indy Car event.
    
      Penske's position is that the car experienced a mechanical failure (IE:
    The rear skid plate was broken off the car as a result of the car riding
    over uneven surfaces on the race track).  Penske's points are as follows:
    
      1) Under Rule 6.13, the stewards have the authority to disregard the loss
    of the skidplate "for all purposes".
    
      2) The car was inspected repeatedly during the course of the weekend and
    passed inspection in every case.
    
      3) The car should be reinspected with the damaged part re-installed as
    established by past precedence.
    
      4) Failing the location of the damaged part, the car should be reinspected
    with a substitute part.
    
      5) The car is to be impounded under the auspices of CART/Indy Car for
    further evaluation.
    
      Chuck Sprague, Team Manager (610) 376-2966
      Penske Racing, Inc
      366 Penske Plaza
      Reading, PA  19603
    
    
    --------------------------------
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                          (614) 890-5442  fax: (614) 890-5083
                                     [email protected]
                     http://enet.colmicrosys.com/mktg101/index.html
    
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    Internet
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    --------------------------------
    
    
    
    
    All information courtesy of MNI - Motorsport News International 
    
49.36nice try.....AIMTEC::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatWed Jun 28 1995 10:5011
>3) The car should be reinspected with the damaged part re-installed as
>   established by past precedence.
>    
>4) Failing the location of the damaged part, the car should be reinspected
>   with a substitute part.
    
So, what they are saying, is that if, say, the turbo pop-off valve fell off they
should be allowed to continue running, win the race and put a new one before
inspection?

Dave
49.37over easy or scrambled?????POLAR::RENAUDPWed Jun 28 1995 11:299
    The moral of the story is....
    
    
    
    ROGER PENSKE IS TRYING HIS DAMNEDEST TO SLIDE THE EGG OFF HIS FACE THIS
    SEASON
    
    PABLO
    
49.38LJSRV2::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOWed Jun 28 1995 11:3613
    Well, we need to be realistic when comparing seasons.  He's made a few
    mistakes, sure.  When compared to the dream season of 1994, he's not
    doing very well.  But, compared to the last eight or so seasons, he's
    doing just a little worse than average. Remember, 1994 was Penske's
    first championship year since 1988 (Sullivan).  He's always been a
    strong contender, and his drivers have won races, but he's not been
    really dominant in the way McLaren was in F1 during the late 1980s
    (except at Indy).
    
    Penske has to protest to save face, but I'm sure he doesn't expect the
    protest to be upheld.
    
    George
49.39He was driving a WHAT?!?!?POLAR::RENAUDPThu Jul 06 1995 05:5324
    Read in the paper yesterday that my man Tracy went and broke his foot.
    I would imagine this can only fuel the fire in his relationship with
    Carl Haas. The article stated that Tracy was at a Go-cart race as a
    celebrity host and decided to get into the race instead. He then got
    angry with another racer on the track and gave him a GOOD bump and
    ended the day with a broken appendage as a result. The silver lining of
    it all though is that he was authorized by the CART medics to race on
    Sunday. Good thing too...not good for the career to get injured playing
    around and have to sit out a race or two. It would almost be
    disasterous for the Newman/Haas team to lose the only driver they have
    who's winning any races.( no disrespect to Michael )
    
    The article also stated that Tracy and Haas got into a bit of a verbal
    scuffle over the condition of Tracy's car in the last race. It seem's
    that Paul thought his car had a used clutch in it for the race, which
    was the reason the car broke in the race. Carl promptly chastized him
    and stated that it was a new clutch. I can't forsee this team staying
    together next season. I hope that Penske ( as much as I hate the BUM )
    decides to exercise his rights on Tracy for the next season. Given the
    expert training with Mears combined with Penske's ( usually ) excellant
    chassis', I think Tracy could actually win a championship.
    
    Pablo
     
49.40ONE MORE FOR THE RED,WHITE, AND RED!!POLAR::RENAUDPMon Jul 10 1995 11:0418
    
    Well, chaulk up another win for the Canadians. Jacques Villeneuve
    repeated last years performance ( minus the SMALL fuel problem at the
    end of last years race ). He seems to be a very strong contender for
    the championship this year.
    
    Outstanding driving by Tracy as well, considering the problems with his
    lower left extremity. I was hoping on the restart on lap 48 that he
    would overtake Villeneuve, but the Reynard was far too strong. Second
    still gets you points!!
    
    DNF #6 for Andretti..........OOOPS! From the way I saw it, it appeared
    to me that Little Al turned into him at the last minute, but the
    commentators kept saying that Michael moved over onto Al. Either way,
    nice to see no serious injuries resulted from the 170 MPH connection.
    
    Pablo
    
49.41170mph love tapsSTOWOA::EHRAMJIANSanka...Ya Dead?!Mon Jul 10 1995 12:5521
    Good strong race all in all...Paul must certainly be hurting today.  
    Jacques is certainly very, very strong this season.  I hope the rumors 
    of him moving to F1 next year are false!
    
    It was a good show for the most part, lot of the "new" drivers up near
    the front.
    
    Interesting quotes from both drivers listed in the ESPNSportzone WWW.
    Michael admitted that Al was moving a little faster, but then 
    disappeared from view, so he went to take his driving line and the rest
    is history.  Little Al simply said that he was very disappointed in 
    Michael'd manuever.
    
    I too thought Al turned into MA, but when you think about it he turned
    as MA was entering his line into the curve.  Al turned probably was
    trying to avoid contact and get behind MA.
    
    Oh well, chalk it up to experience.
    
    Carl
    
49.42They're called Mirrors, Michael!NETCAD::CARUSOTue Jul 11 1995 23:418
    
    
    Yeah, they forgot to tell Micheal what those pesky things stuck on the
    side of the car that sometimes causes glare from the sun were....
    
    Thank god they walked away from that one..
    
    Ken
49.43Mirrors, so that's what they're for!BRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @17.5K music to my earsWed Jul 12 1995 10:146
    Michael thinks they are to watch the guy crash that he just passed ;').
    
    This has got to be Michaels worst year for screw-ups he is not helping
    his carear at all. Even Tracy is looking good these days.
    
    Fred
49.44GOODBYE EMMO....WELCOME BACK TRACY!POLAR::RENAUDPWed Jul 12 1995 10:5617
    
    Fred..Fred..Fred.... "Even Tracy is looking good these days"?!?
    
    You call yourself a Canadian?? No self repecting Canadian should be
    making statements like that. When you consider that Canada is running a
    REAL close second in the Nation's Cup points with only 2 drivers,
    versus the dozen or so from the US.....well need I say more?!? I'll say
    it again as I did back in April...THIS IS THE YEAR OF CANADIAN
    DOMINANCE IN THE CART SERIES!
    
    Tracy has matured ALOT since last year and has finally proved that he
    deserves respect from the likes of the Unsers, Andrettis, and most of
    all Roger Penske. I look forward to the end of August when Penske
    announces his intentions for the remaining year of Tracy's contract.
    
    Pablo
    
49.45Canadians 1 and 2BRADOR::ZUFELTV12 @17.5K music to my earsWed Jul 12 1995 16:3310
    Canadians all the way, too bad we have our right hand tied behind our
    back with Goodyear not behind one of those Hondoos. I think it could be
    1,2,3, Canadian. Instead of Canadian 1,2.
    
    Fred
    
    	P.S. I don't think this will be Emmo's last year, he will need a
    big send off like Mario had. It will take a year to say goodbye.
    
    
49.46THIRD CONSECUTIVE POLE FOR VILLENEUVE!!POLAR::RENAUDPMon Jul 17 1995 13:0215
    Well..no surprise here on the result of the TO Indy. I speculated that
    it would be Bobby Rahal or Michael A. And OH...look at that....1 and 2.
    
    I figured that Michael would end the losing streak here,
    since...well...except the year he was in F1, and the year the morons in
    his crew put his tires on backwards, he hasn't lost it yet.
    Sorry to see Jacques miss the win but the experienced drivers definately 
    took over. 
    
    Paully
    
    P.S. Tracy also fought a great race but the spin trying for 2nd really
    messed his day up. Also sad to see Pruett lose it over a rad hose. Nice
    paint job on the car though.
    
49.47HHEEEELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOPOLAR::RENAUDPTue Aug 08 1995 12:4212
    Has nobody gotten any interest in the F1 testing that Villeneuve has
    been up to ????
    
    How about Sullivan's crash? No speculation on who will replace him for
    the remainder of the season??
    
    Did noone watch the Michigan 500.....I missed it and was looking
    forward to hearing the highlights from y'all  but it appears that I'm
    standing here alone!!
    
    Pablo
    
49.48LJSRV2::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOTue Aug 08 1995 14:0715
    Villenueve is within 0.5 sec. of Hill; no word on how the engines,
    setups, tires, etc. compare, so it's hard to draw any conclusions.
    
    No question the kid is fast, though.
    
    Juan Fangio II will be in the PacWest seat at Mid-Ohio.  This deal is
    sanctioned by Dan Gurney, BTW.
    
    The Michigan race was great.  Having seen the race in person last year,
    I got so much more out of the coverage this time around (as did the
    boys in the truck, obviously ;-) ).  Hats off to Johnstone and Ribero
    for their outstanding performances, and how about that Scooter Pruett?
    His duel with Mr. Unser was one for the archives.
    
    George
49.49More Silly Season StuffBRAT::STEVENS_MTue Aug 08 1995 14:1614
    Talk is that Robby Gordon is now looking to get out of his contract
    with Derrick Walker. Seems they've had a bit of a falling out. Gordon
    is rumored to be talking to Arciero/Wells Racing. Newman/Haas was also
    talked about, but after his incident in Cleveland one would think that 
    that is over.
    
    Also, it looks as though Emmo is going to leave Penske racing. No word
    yet if Tracy is going back to Roger. If he returns to Patrick racing what 
    does that do to Scott Pruett?
    
    Danny Sullivan is also contemplating retirement.
    
    
    Mark
49.50Indy Vancouver SponsorshipCGOOA::OWONGSKIWI in Canada (VAO)Wed Aug 09 1995 02:14105
    Crossposted KAOSWS::CANADA, OASS::RACERS, LJSRV2::INTERNET_TOOLS
    
    Digital Canada is one of the sponsors of the Molson Indy in Vancouver
    1-3 September, 1995.
    
    WWW pages mentioning Digital are in place:
    
    	http://indy-vcr.molson.com/guide11.html
    	http://indy-vcr.molson.com/press-releases/digital.html
    
    	Owen.
    
    The text of the press release follows:
    
       
    
      Digital Equipment of Canada Limited is partnering with EDS
      Motorsports to provide the official EDS Timing and Scoring
      System at this year's Molson Indy Vancouver during the
      Labour Day Weekend. Earlier this summer in Toronto's Molson
      Indy, and for the first time at any IndyCar event, the
      attendees were able to access real-time race statistics in
      the Executive Pit Suite. Up until this event, access to the
      real-time Timing and Scoring data had only been available to
      race officials, the media, and the race teams in the pits.
    
      Through use of Digital Equipment's Venturis 575 PCs on a
      Fibre Optical and Ethernet network connected to a feed
      provided by EDS to their race server, Digital is able to
      provide access to access to the EDS Timing and Scoring
      real-time data to attendees in all Pit Suites throughout
      the weekend event in Vancouver. Executive Pit Suite attendees
      will be able to view up-to-the minute information, which
      adds to the involvement and enjoyment of the race activities.
      It also demonstrates a working partnership between EDS and
      Digital to deliver this solution in an environment hostile
      to electronic equipment.
    
      The timing and scoring system developed by EDS provides
      immediate access to nearly every aspect of the operation of
      of an IndyCar while functioning in one of the world's most
      hostile testing environments for technology. The EDS system
      system allows the viewer real-time access and details to
      driver position, lap and speed, number of pit stops and laps,
      time and distance between drivers, and the distance a driver
      is from the leader. The system which operates by placing a
      a transmitter in each car, also provides historical data and
      general information on each driver and team, as accurate as
      .0001/second.
    
      The network receives data that is transmitted from the cars
      to seven time lines embedded in the track, then it processes
      the information and immediately delivers it to race officials,
      teams, media and fans in real time. The recipients can then
      view and/or configure data in a variety of ways to suit their
      individual purposes. The EDS system uses wireless technology
      for the distribution of data and the information can be
      accessed by use of a laptop PC.
    
      "The decision to partner with Digital to provide the EDS
      Timing and Scoring System to the Executive Pit Suites was
      simple. We knew we could rely on Digital to do the job right,"
      said Susan M. DiCosmo, project manager for Motorsports at EDS.
      "This involvement by Digital to provide EDS data in an easy-
      to-view format to Pit Suite attendees greatly assists in
      enabling the viewer with the knowledge how competitive
      IndyCar is, and keeps those attendees, who may be potential
      sponsors or future business partners, directly involved with
      the fast moving activities trackside."
    
      "This business partnership between Digital Equipment of
      Canada and EDS Motorsports to provide their Timing and
      Scoring System data to the Pit Suites gives me the opportunity
      to invite guests that are not avid IndyCar fans and within
      minutes increase their knowledge and enjoyment of the sport
      exponentially. By providing this service to all the Pit
      Suites, Digital is able to show our customers and future
      business partners that we are able to work successfully in
      a hostile environment, and can provide the products and
      technical expertise to maintain such projects." said Ron
      Catcheside, Canadian communication manger, Digital Equipment
      of Canada. "This on-going partnership with EDS to provide
      this service has proven to be successful."
    
      EDS is a leader in the global information services industry.
      The company's 80,000 employees specialize in applying a
      range of ideas and technologies to help business and
      government customers improve their economics, products,
      services and customer relationships. EDS, which operates in
      40 countries, reported revenues of $10.5 billion in 1994.
      EDS Motorsports, a division of EDS is the Official Information
      Technology Provider to IndyCar.
    
      Digital Equipment of Canada Limited, a wholly subsidary of
      Digital Equipment Corporation with a revenue of $14 billion,
      and its Partners provide industry leading client/server
      solutions to business across Canada. Digital's Alpha
      platforms, personal computers, networking products and
      services, together with industry-focused solutions from
      business partners, help organizations compete and win in
      today's global marketplace. In addition to facilities across
      Canada, the company has a major manufacturing and R&D
      facility in Kanata, Ontario and a major service and support
      centre in Hull, Quebec.
    
49.51BRAT::STEVENS_MFri Aug 11 1995 17:4614
    Jacques Villineuve will be leaving IndyCar and going to Formula 1 it
    has been reported. No word yet as to who is will be going to drive for.
    
    Also, Christian Fittipaldi may be moving to Newman/Hass from Walker
    racing. If so, Derrick Walker could lose both Robby Gordon and
    Fittipaldi leaving him searching for new drivers in '96.
    
    Carl hogan may also team up with Roger Penske and field a 3rd team with
    Paul Tracy behind the wheel. That will be decided by next week.
    
    Rauol Boesel could also be shopping for a team if Rahal goes with just
    one team (himself) next season.
    
    Mark
49.52Mid OhioAIMTEC::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatMon Aug 14 1995 10:4710
I caught the last 30 or so laps of the race yesterday.  Another case of Andretti
luck just a few laps from the end.  Jacques bouncing off Rahal and kicking him
into the wall and it looks all but sewn up for Jacques to win the championship.  

Three races left and he has a 152 to 111 point lead or something close to that.

Glad to see Al Jr winning again, even though it looked like Michael had it all
going his way until the car died.

Dave 
49.53Contact at Digital for Indy Timing?YUPPY::PATEMANCuore SportivoTue Aug 15 1995 12:1713
    Re Digital at Vancouver....
    
    Does anyone have a contact in Digital Canada regarding the EDS deal for
    Digital to provide timing systems?
    
    We are going out to Laguna Seca and as RAC timekeepers in the UK would
    like to have a look at the Indy Car system in action. The people we
    work with in the UK also provide the systems for FOCA/Tag Heur at GPs
    and we would like to do some comparisons.
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    Paul
49.54Sat schedule for NHISWONDER::BRODEURWed Aug 16 1995 12:235
    Anybody have an idea what the schedule looks like at NHIS this Sat.? Ide
    like to go up then and leave race day to the VCR. I assume there is
    plenty of practice going on but any support races happening?
    
    Paul
49.55LJSRV2::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOWed Aug 16 1995 12:585
    Re: last
    
    7.40 has what you need.
    
    George
49.56CGOOA::OWONGSKIWI in Canada (VAO)Thu Aug 17 1995 03:289
    Re .53
    
    This partnership is only occurring for the Toronto and Vancouver races
    so I doubt you'll see anything at Laguna Seca.
    
    Canadian contact is Ron Catcheside, Canadian Corporate Relations
    Manager.  Ron is located in Toronto (TRO).
    
    	Owen.
49.57WHO'D HAVE GUESSED???POLAR::RENAUDPThu Aug 17 1995 08:206
    Confirmed in the morning papers.......Villeneuve to Williams!
    
    What a surprise!?!
    
    Pablo
    
49.58Driver AppearancesBRAT::STEVENS_MThu Aug 17 1995 15:317
    Robby Gordon, Jimmy Vasser, and possibly Scott Pruett are going to
    appear at Murphy's Steak House in Concord, NH. tonight from 6-8.
    
    Also, Bobby Rahal will be at the Silver City Saloon tonight raising
    donations for Charity. For 10 dollars, he will race you in the 
    Marlboro Simulator. The saloon is located off Route 106 (North of
    the Speedway) in Belmont.
49.59Marlboro Simulator (aka VR) alot of fun..ORAREP::BOIKOMike BoikoMon Aug 21 1995 12:5310
    The Marlboro/Penske simulator was alot of fun....(aka VR)
    
    ...I took 2nd on Friday night..
    
    ...and my friend John took 1st on Saturday night...
    
    I turned in a 52.00 (I've done 50.00 in the past..) and John turned in
    a 50.68 lap.
    
    								-mike-
49.60As I said before....THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE CANADIANS!!POLAR::RENAUDPMon Sep 11 1995 11:526
    
    History has been made!
    
    Indycar is no longer just an American sport!
    
    CONGRATULATIONS TO JACQUES!!
49.61STAR::KINGMon Sep 11 1995 13:194
Yes, great result for Jacques!  However, if the history being made is
that Jacques is non American, dont forget Mansell two years ago...!

martin
49.62WORLD SERIES, PPG CUP, ....WHAT DO WE WANT NEXT?? NBA PENNANT!POLAR::RENAUDPMon Sep 11 1995 14:536
    Not that he's non American....But that he's Canadian!!
    
    There's lots of non American's in the series.........EMMO, FABI,
    JOHANSSEN, ETC.
    
    Pablo
49.63SILLY SEASON RESULTS???POLAR::RENAUDPWed Sep 20 1995 13:587
    Does anyone out ther have the scoop on where everyone is going for the
    96 season? Who is coming up....who's going where.....who's staying
    put....
    Surely Mr. Allegrezza must have the scoop! 
    
    Pablo ( who already knows where Jacques will be)
    
49.64ABACUS::STEVENS_MThu Sep 21 1995 15:4515
    Here's what has been said in the NSSN -
    
    Christian Fittipaldi to Newman-Haas
    Paul Tracy back to Penske
    
    Players Ltd. sponsorship going to Forsythe Racing with Teo Fabi
    Greg Moore driving a 2nd car for Forsythe
    
    
    Not official yet:
    
    Scott Goodyear driving 2nd Tasman car    
    Arie Luyendyk to Arciero Wells
    
    Mark
49.65Add 1 more win for Al JrAIMTEC::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatMon Oct 02 1995 18:135
Al Unser Jr had his disqualification overturned from the Seattle(?) race.  It
doesn't effect the winner of the PPG Cup, but probably shuffles the order near
the top - I don't have the final standings handy.

Dave
49.66Interesting developments.....POLAR::RENAUDPThe Neighbor of the Beast...667!Fri Nov 03 1995 14:0413
    Rumor has it that.....
    
    
    Emmo has left Penske to join Hogan Racing (split from Rahal).
    The same source also stated that he has taken everything with him...and
    I mean EVERYTHING!!
    
    A 96 Penske chassis, engine, sponsers, pit crew, mechanics, and
    engineers.
    They say it's been coming since the "infamous" wave off in the final
    qualifying session for the Indy.
    
    Hmmmmmm, so where does this place everyone for the 96 season?????
49.67CHEFS::16.196.112.122::PaulPatemanCuore SportivoMon Nov 06 1995 11:107
Autosport in the UK reported this as a satellite operation from Penske. Tracey 
& Unser are the main team and Emmo & A N Other are a semi-Penske team 
run from Phoenix?

They also stated that this year was expected to be Emmo's final one in racing.

Paul
49.68POLAR::RENAUDPGUMBY was MORE than just CLAY!Tue Nov 21 1995 14:115
    Any one else hear anything about Danny Sullivan getting arrested for
    choking his girlfriend??
    
    Paully
    
49.69BSS::JILSONCOSROCS -- In Thrust We TrustTue Nov 21 1995 16:034
Been looking at those supermarket tabloids again ;*)  That was where I saw 
it but I didn't bother reading it.

Jilly
49.70AIMTEC::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatTue Nov 21 1995 16:587
>Been looking at those supermarket tabloids again ;*)  That was where I saw 
>it but I didn't bother reading it.

Yeah, me too, but I never picked one up.  Nice shot of Danny with a 5 o'clock
shadow, trying to make him look nasty or something.

Dave
49.71maybe they should put MAD magazine there instead..POLAR::RENAUDPGUMBY was MORE than just CLAY!Wed Nov 22 1995 08:178
    It is amazing that EVERYONE just sees them in the grocery lines!
    I believe they are reaching out to get a whole new audience by trying
    to exploit the sports figures, other than their #1 target....TYSON!
    
    But yes that was quite the photo...
    
    Pablo