Conference oass::racers

    Looks like two drivers won all the money this weekend.  Of course
    there was Dale, but a big job well done to Mike McLaughlin who
    took BOTH the Grand National and the Modified checkers at the
    Triple Header.  Mike took home over $35,000 for his efforts Sunday.
    I thought the G.N. race was pretty dull, but then again there still
    isn't too much rubber laid down yet.  The Modifieds put on a much
    better show, with quite a bit more passing.  The 3rd division was
    the Charlotte Sportsman cars.  They were OK, but it's hard to sit
    through something like that, following the Mighty Modifieds.
    Track attendance was down from the B.G.N. opener, so traffic
    wasn't nearly as bad.  
    
    Gaff

The Boston Chapter of the BMW CCA held its first driver's school at NHIS on
Sept. 21.  Eighty enthusiastic students and twenty-five instructors 
participated on a beautiful autumn day.  We had a very interesting
cross-section of BMWs on the track, ranging from M-cars (M1, M3, M5, M6) to a 
1967 1600.  We also had an assortment of Porsches, VWs, etc., and a Ferrari.

The NHIS staff was very professional and helpful throughout the day.  NHIS is a
first rate physical plant and should be even better next year.  I had some
interesting discussions with Ted Goddard over the summer about the track layout
(south end chicane and turn 3, in particular) and have developed an
appreciation for the design constraints that the various sanctioning bodies and
environmental laws have placed on the facility.  We were fortunate to have Bob
Chausse of the SCCA to lead the flagging and communications activities. 
Everyone learned a lot from Bob and the three SCCA workers who also came up for
the day.

We used the "club" course for the school.  This reduced the approach speed to
turn 3 by anywhere from 10-20 mph.  The instructors who instruct at PCA events
wanted to run the oval turn, but we will probably continue to use the "club"
course until we develop a more experienced student group.  Thirty-four of the
students had never been on a track before.  The transitions into and out of the
south end chicane were fairly severe as paved initially.  Additional paving was
completed in late August to allow shallower, less abrupt transitions.  It is
now possible to enter and leave the chicane fairly smoothly; however, the
transitions on the fast line remain quite abrupt.  Curbing has been added to
the road course all the way to the turn-in point for turn 10.  A thick layer of
loam had been spread all around the course; it should be very pretty by next
summer. 

The students behaved very well.  I attribute much of this to instructors being
in the cars with the students at all times and, thereby, being able to instill
in the students healthy doses of respect for the course.  There were only two
spins in turn 3 and no off-course excursions; fortunately, there were no cars
following closely in either case.  One of the instructors hit the outside wall
in turn 2 when the right front tire blew as he entered the banking from the
chicane.  He was  able to pull out the sheet metal, mount a spare, and drive
home.

Everyone in the club is looking forward to next year's event(s).  
 

    
    The Monday edition of the Nashua Telegraph (N.H.) carried an article
    that announced a CART race at NHIS July 3rd, 1992. This CART race came
    into existance when the Cleveland Grand Prix was canned. The NASCAR
    folks show up the following weekend at NHIS. Should make for a busy
    racing summer here in New Hampshire.
    
    
    Dick
    

    	Well, true to their word, NHIS did send out notification to
    previous ticket purchasers for first dibs on the 7/5 CART race.  The
    prices are, a bit, outrageous.  $35 each for the cheap seats down front,
    rising steadily to $75 each for the rows underneat the suites.  The
    cheapest seats are $25 per only in the Laconia Grandstands which they
    termed as the "family" section.   
    
    
    Price, however, be damned -- I got three at $55!!!

    re .177
    
    Gee, you must be special. I received a brochure from them yesterday
    to order tickets. I called the number they gave and said I had to
    mail the request in. By the time my request goes through the mail I'll
    probably have to stand!
    
    bob

    I believe they are giving 1st shot to everyone who had
    tickets for the Bud 300 NASCAR race.  I was offered the
    same 5 tickets I had for the 300.  If you went to the
    300, but someone else bought the tickets, I'd check
    with them.
    
    I'll be there
    Gaff

    Could you post the phone number of the NHIS ticket office?  For
    those of us that didn't make races this summer, we would like a
    chance at next summer's racing schedule!
    
    
    thanks,
     Dick
         

I just got off the phone with the ticket folks at NHIS...lemme see...8 
tickets in the top row and another 8 in the family grandstand...carry the 
one...uhhh...over six hunnert bucks!

According to the person on the phone, the race is a 200-lapper.  I'm 
disappointed...I've been to the 200-lapper at Nazareth and it's over 
entirely too quickly.  300 would have been more realistic...

I figure they'll be qualifying at about 180...assuming a race average of a 
speed as low as 125 and we're looking at about an hour and 40 minutes of 
racing.  Not enough...8^(

.182> I figure they'll be qualifying at about 180...assuming a race average 
.182> of a speed as low as 125 and we're looking at about an hour and 40 minutes
.182> of racing.  Not enough...8^(
    
    an hour and 40 minutes of racing seems like a nice TV package.  It
    works out to about an hour and a half of wife shots, ten minutes of
    cars on the track, and twenty minutes of commercials...	:-(

I'm going to NHIS for the first time Sunday.  Could someone give me directions?
I was told to get there by 8:00 am, otherwise don't count on seeing the start.
Also I was told to park far away for a quicker exit.  Any comments on this?
Anyone know a good place to park?

Thanks.

Bill

That would be directions from the Maynard area.

Sorry, just a little exited about the whole thing.

Bill

Route 3 north through Nashua (assuming you can find that...:-))
FE Everett Turnpike (get your quarters out) up through Manchester and into
Concord (rt 93 by that point).  Get off at exit 15 and head east (393?).  From
that road take 106 north towards Loudon.  The track will be on the right about 
8 miles up.

Figure on 1.5 hours from Maynard (45-60 minutes from Nashua, depending on
traffic and 'other' driving conditions).

Dave

    That is pretty good. Bill got directions from Dave , who lives in Hot-
    Lanta, Ga.
    
    Bill, who told you 8am? I was at the first race for the BGN and it was
    hectic. Since then they have gotten their stuff together. Last year I
    was there at 10 and I got right into a good parking spot and had,
    plenty of time to check out all the vendors. Unless the Indy people
    are different..(I can't see how they could be as resless as GOB fans)
    You'll have plenty of time on your hands if you arrive at 8am.
    
    TMW

I've attached to this message a schedule for the weekend.  The information 
is from a phone conversation I had recently with the folks at NHIS.  As you 
can see, there is a pretty good incentive to get to the track early on 
Sunday...the Indy Lights race at 9:30.

I loooove the smell of racing fuel in the morning...
								Mike


			NHIS -- July 3,4,5
			------------------

   Types of racing: IndyCars, Indy Lites, Barber Saab, Winston Modifieds.

   Friday:   Practice from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.  
             General Admission: $10

   Saturday: Practice and Qualifying from 9 a.m.
             Winston Modified race at 1 p.m.  General Admission $20

   Sunday:   Indy Lights at 9:30 a.m.
	     IndyCars at 12:30 p.m.
	     Barber Saab at 3:00 p.m.

TMW,

I don't know who...my sister talked with someone who had been to some event up
there.  I asked the question prior to finding out about the indy lights race.
I would like to be up there for that, though, but some of the other people Im
going with (not really racing fans) want to get there a little later, they'll
be happy to hear it should be a problem.

The problem as I understand is with the access road getting in.

>>    That is pretty good. Bill got directions from Dave , who lives in Hot-
>>    Lanta, Ga.

Oh well.  I was planning on going by way of there anyway.

Thanks!!!!

Bill

         Anyone want to comment on the traffic this Sunday? Was it as bad
    as predicated?
    
                                      Thanks
                                      Rich

    It was very bad. It took us two hours, 20 minutes to get from
    Londonderry, NH to the track. That was a normal 45 minute drive, for
    about 40 miles. We got to within 12 miles of the track in 30 minutes,
    and spent the rest of the time doing 0-15 MPH. Lots of stop time. 
    
    We got to the track at 11:35. I felt terrible for the poor folks that
    were still driving in 20 minutes after the race started. Exiting was
    not too bad. We decided to head north, which went well. I heard that
    the I93 was backed up 8 miles above where 393 hooks in in the
    southbound direction, all the way to the tolls in Hookset. That
    probably translated to about 2 hours to go the 8 miles from Concord to
    the toll station. 
    
    Mike

The traffic all depended on when you got there.  As mentioned in .-1,
it got very bad as the morning progressed.  I left from Merrimack,
NH, at 8:00 AM.  I very little traffic problems.  Route 106, the
piece of highway between Interstate 393 and NHIS, was very heavy
traffic, but it moved at 55 MPH until about 1/2 mile before the track,
at which point it slowed to a steady 5-10 MPH all the way to the track
and into the parking lot.  I got to the grandstand area for the last
5 minutes or so of the IndyCar practice (9:00-9:30 AM).

Bottom line:  get there early and enjoy the support events.

--PSW

         Can anyone recommend a campground NORTH of the track?Can you camp
    at the track itself?
    
                                             Thanks
                                             Rich
    
                                                     

Re: Note 504.193 by MSD26::WOJDAK 

>         Can anyone recommend a campground NORTH of the track?Can you camp
>    at the track itself?

These topics in the VMSMKT::NEW_HAMPSHIRE conference (press KP7 or SELECT 
to add) would be a good place to look...

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   179       CSSE32::APRIL         8-JUL-1987     5  Campground info wanted 
   397       MARRHQ::SHARRIS      13-JUN-1988     5  NEW HAMPSHIRE CAMPSITES
   710       CHEZIT::T_THEO        1-MAY-1989     0  Sunapee Area Camping & Lodging
  1167        IAMOK::SHARROW      25-APR-1990     9  summer campground info wanted
  1186       SENIOR::CHAMBERS      4-MAY-1990     5  Looking for a riverside campground in NH
  1288       HPSTEK::SKIEST       17-JUL-1990     2  WATERFALL'S IN CAMPGROUNDS
  1320       ENOVAX::DREYER       15-AUG-1990     2  Plymouth Sands Campground Info?
  1666       SCARGO::DRY           8-MAY-1991     5  MOUNTAIN CAMPGROUND WANTED
  1684        PHONE::POIRIER      17-MAY-1991     1  Wanted Cabin/Campground in NH, ME or VT

    A new track record was established over Labor Day weekend 9/5 in SCCA's
    Club Ford class by Peter Symonds in a 1980 PRS.  The old record was
    109.665.  Peter now has it at a 108.980.  He also wrapped up the E
    Production NERRC championship on 9/6.  This makes it a three-peat in E
    Prod.    
    
    Just thought I'd let you folks know.  I'm kind of proud of it.
    
    Regards,
    
    	Barb
    

    Barb,
    
    Peter still owes me that beer for pushing him half way up the
    straightaway during that red flag _stuff_.  :-)  It was hotter than
    hell out there.....
    
    jim

All things considered, what actually did go on at NHIS?

My network of spys fed me lots and lots of nice rumors, saying that
the last race weekend there was more like Payton Place than a sports car
race.  Matter of fact, if HALF of the stories are true, then Payton Place is
a laid back calm and normal little town.

I have heard stories of every type, from Stewards yelling at each other, drivers
getting into fist fights (all on vidio tape, made by one drivers brother, who
just happens to be a lawyer), spousal arguments and even a little bit of husband
beating, various workers getting real annoyed and protesting the stewards (never
mind that workers have absolutly no right to file a protest! Read the GCR, 
drivers and entrants may file a protest, but workers need to file a RFA), one
person telling the drivers to cool it because they were just racing for 
"F&*^ing  ashtrays" , and so now, everyone is looking for "F&*^ing ashtrays" ....

and the saga goes on. (I'll skip all the stories of a personal nature, but
some of the words related to drivers, snakes, and what they would do...)

Geez, stories like these might even get me to renew my membership in the
Silly Car Club of America, as the entertaiment value sounds real high.  
It would certainly be worth the $10 it would cost me per year to get into 
see this show....

    Dave,
    
    Even you were there, this stuff doesn't belong here. I'd vote for
    deleting .-1 from this note. It serves no purpose being posted.
    
    Just my opinion.
    
    jim

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    Dave,

    Even you were there, this stuff doesn't belong here. I'd vote for
    deleting .-1 from this note. It serves no purpose being posted.

    Just my opinion.

    jim


From the base note:

>This notes file is intended for discussion of racing, racing related stuff,
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
>and other such stuff.  Entries not related to racing and such will be removed,
>and the only for sale adds accepted will be for race cars.


Seems to me that the post exactly fits the reason for this conference.
Granted, it may poke fun at your favorite organization, but a note directly
                            ^^^^
about the personalities in the organization is directly related to racing.

Many, many of the posts in this notes file complain about various people
in various aspects of racing, and if people want to make their behavior
public at some racing event, well then its part of the racing environment.

I have never read a post where you complained about some note saying the
Senna or Dale, or Little Al were driving or acting like something other
than a businessman, so I can only assume that you have had your feathers 
ruffeled because this one "strikes a little close to home."

Also, if you are going to mail me a request to delete a note, dont also 
post it here...

I say leave it. There hasn't been any good arguments in here since the 
NASCAR fans started their own conference.

    
    Leave it, Nothing like a good trackside spat to rile everyone up. Heck
    I may even purchase tickets to go see it ! 8*)
    

    I say leave it to.  It's nice to know you SCCA boys are racin' for
    ashtrays.  What type of ashtrays?   Anyway, sounds like a typical 
    saturday night a Lanier.  Except there we win MONEY (almost enough
    to buy an ashtray even).

    Looks like it stays. Our next event at NHIS is Oct 24th. It's our
    Racing Against Leukemia weekend. There'll be fund raising, etc for the
    hospitals, so come on out and "see the action".
    
    jim

From the January 17, 1994 edition of AutoWeek:

IMSA Adding Two: (page 46)
IMSA will add two races to it's 1994 WSC and GTS-O-U schedules:  It has 
confirmed a July 8-10 date on the road course at Indianapolis Raceway park, 
where a $500,000 improvement project is already underway.  IMSA is also 
negotiating toward a Labor Day-weekend program at New Hampshire International 
Speedway, where competitors would race on an oval-and-infield circuit.
--
Courage Update: (page 47)
Yves Courage's WSC car is moving along.  Plans now call for the car to be 
powered by a Chevrolet engine, to debut at LeMans and to be entered in IMSA 
races later this year at Laguna Seca, Portland, New Hampshire and Phoenix.  
Former Peugeot 905 engineer Paolo Catone is in charge of the project.

    There is an article in todays Nashua Telegraph (Nashua, NH.) about the
    upcoming "battle" between the IndyCar series and the new series
    proposed by Tony George.
    
    It should be interesting to see what happens. The Bahres have said that
    they would want to be a part of a series that included the Indy 500.
    IndyCar tried to sign them up to a longer term contract than this one
    just signed (1 year I believe) after this one.
    
    According to the Boston Globe this past Sunday, the IndyCar race this
    year is selling at about the pace of last years (41,000). However, the
    day after the Winston Cup race they sold more tickets for the IndyCar
    race in one day than any previous day in the past 2 years.
    
    Mark

          The NHIS folks would be doing themselves a big favor if they
     would lengthen the race by at least 100 more laps. Going further
     than that wouldn't probably prove much regarding the outcome, but
     for me, 200 laps that I've watched over the past two years for the
     Indycars was an awfully quick race, and not even close to worth the
     ticket price. As an aside, if you are contemplating going to this,
     by all means, buy the cheap tickets! After the race starts, look
     around and see what seats are available. With over 20000 seats
     available, you'll have no problem relocating to a better viewing
     area. I saw loads of open seats last year along the very high
     levels of the grandstands, all race long. 

          Mike

          -not going this year-

    I seemed to remember that IndyCar will not run any race over 200 laps.
    
    I agree it is short, but I think it's still worth the trip. 
    
    I go up all three days in fact and go into the infield. It is easier to 
    get to talk to a driver here than trying to run them down at say Indy.
    However, IndyCar drivers should take a lesson or two from the Nascar
    drivers. Very few if any drivers or other sports personalities are as
    accessible and friendly as the Nascar drivers. 
    
    Good idea about snatching up a good seat for a lower price ticket. I'll 
    bet that a lot of the Laconia (turn 4) grandstand will be empty too.
    
    
    Mark   
    
    

    
    
    
    This note looks pretty quiet, 
    
    
    Does anyone have a schedule for Loudon Raceway? Are there any races
    
    this month? Or any other track in So. New Hampshire.
    
    
    Thank in advance,
    
    Jeff
    

Article 17304 of rec.autos.sport.nascar:

               New Hampshire International Speedway
                           Race Dates


April 1-2		World Karting Association
Arril 8-9		NASCAR Twins Presented by: Tri-State Megabuck's
April 15-16		AMA Loudon Road Racing Series
April 21-23		SCCA New England Championship
May 6-7			AMA Loudon Road Racing Series
May 12-13		NASCAR New Englang Chevy Dealers 250
May 20-21		World Karting Association
May 27-29		SCCA National Championship
June 10-11		AMA Road Racing Series
June 16-18		72nd Loudon Camel Classic AMA National Motorcycle Races
June 28-July 2		The Evan G. DeMoulas Memorial Vintage Celebration
July 7-9		NASCAR Slick 50 300 & Auto Palace 150 by Slick 50
July 15-16		AMA Loudon Road Racing Series
July 22-23		World Karting Association
July 29-30		SCCA New England Championship
Aug 12-13		SCCA New England Championship
Aug 18-20		New Englang 200 PPG Indy Car World Series
Aug 26-27		AMA Loudon Road Racing Series
Sept 2-4		SCCA New England Championship
Sept	9-10		World Karting Association
Sept 16-17		AMA Loudon Road Racing Series
Sept 23-24		Nynex Yellow Pages Doubleheader
Sept 30-Oct 1		World Karting Association
Oct 7-8			AMA Loudon Road Racing Series
Oct 21-23		SCCA Race Against Leukemia

What are the COM dates?  Looks like:

April 29-30
June 3-4
Aug 5-6
Oct?

One of those may be in conjuction with a PCA and/or BMWCCA event on a Friday.

Dave

    Does anyone have a schedule for this Sunday at NHIS?  I know the
    following are going on:
    
    NASCAR Featherlite Modififieds
    Skip Barber Dodge Series
    Firestone Indy Lights
    IndyCar New England 200
    
    Thanks,
    Steve
    

    Last year, the Barber guys ran late Sat. afternoon.  Sunday's events
    were the Indy Lights race, IndyCar, the modifieds, and a huge freakin'
    rainstorm, in that order.
    
    George

    I called them to find out about the weekend schedule... 
    The following list was sent to me via fax from NHIS.
    
    -Steve
    
Friday, August 18th
-------------------
8:00am		Spectator Gates Open
8:15 - 8:45am	USAC/SCCA Formula 2000 Practice
9:00 - 9:30am	Barber Dodge Pro Series Practice
9:45 - 10:45am	Firestone Indy Lights Practice
11:00- 12:30pm	PPG Indycar New England 200 Practice
1:15 - 1:45pm	USAC/SCCA Formula 2000 Practice
2:00 - 2:30pm	Firestone Indy Lights Practice
2:45 - 3:30pm	PPG Indycar New England 200 Practice
4:15 - 4:45pm	USAC/SCCA Formula 2000 Qualifying
5:00 - 5:30pm	Barber Dodge Pro Series Qualifying

Saturday, August 19th
---------------------
8:00am		Spectator Gates Open
8:00 - 8:30am	Firestone Indy Lights Practice
9:00 - 10:00am	PPG Indycar New England 200 Practice
10:15- 10:45am	NASCAR Featherlite Modified Practice
11:30- 1:00pm	PPG Indycar New England 200 Qualifying
2:15 - 2:30pm	USAC/SCCA Formula 2000 Warm-Up
2:45 - 3:15pm	NASCAR Featherlite Modified Practice
4:00 - 4:45pm	USAC/SCCA Formula 2000 Race - 40 laps
5:00 - 5:30pm	NASCAR Featherlite Modified Qualifying
5:45pm		Barber Dodge Pro Series Qualifying

Sunday, August 20th
-------------------
7:00am		Spectator Gates Open
8:00 - 8:15am	Barber Dodge Pro Series Warm-Up
8:30 - 8:45am	Firestone Indy Lights Warm-Up
9:00 - 9:30am	PPG Indycar New England 200 Warm-Up
10:15- 10:45am	Barber Dodge Pro Series Race - 50 Laps
11:00- 11:45am	Firestone Indy Lights Race - 70 Laps
12:30pm		New England 200 Pre-Race Activities
1:00pm		4th Annual New England 200 PPG Indycar
		World Series Race - 200 Laps
3:15pm (appx)	NASCAR Featherlite Modified Race - 40 Laps

NOTE: Tentative Schedule - all times subject to change.
SOURCE: Press Release from NHIS

    re .39
    
    I just hope the remains of Felix don't find their way north this
    weekend... it would be the second time in a month that my race weekend
    was effected by the remnants of a hurricane.  8^)
    
    -Steve
    

    re: last
    
    Bob Bahre has had the worst luck with weather.  Every IndyCar race
    run at NHIS has been threatened with rain.  It seems like every one of
    his spring and fall Busch dates have ast least one rained out day over
    the weekend.
    
    I'm hoping this year is different, but I'm packing the poncho.  I
    haven't had the best luck this year; I went to Lime Rock for the
    IMSA/SCCA event and a tornado broke out!
    
    George

Saw a report on this morning's news that the Bahres have purchased 50%
of the North Wilksboro (is that in NC or VA?) and would like to move one
of that track's NASCAR WC events to NHIS, thus giving NHIS 2 WC races.
I guess this would make the WC fans happy . I just wonder if the Bahres are
doing this in case their IRL event is a flop?

    Well, the NHIS has been practically printing money since they got the
    first WC date, so this is a good business move regardless of what
    happens with IndyCar/IRL.   Although, I think they will have a hard
    time getting a good IRL crowd if the non-Indy IRL entry list remains
    in the "pathetic" class.
    
    George

From:	US1RMC::"[email protected]" "Paul Czarnecki" 14-MAR-1996 11:03:58.18
To:	"Jim Evans" <proxy::j_evans>
CC:	
Subj:	NHIS

Subject:     NHIS bump fixin'
Sent:        3/13/96 3:56 PM
Received:    3/13/96 7:53 PM
From:        [email protected]
To:          Multiple recipients of, [email protected]

  If you haven't heard, it appears that NHIS
  took care of the ruts in T-3 and the Esses
  late last fall.  If we chased anyone away 
  because of the less than desirable track
  conditions ... come on back !!
  
-Bob

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