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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2331.0. "1994 NEC Motor Show" by FORTY2::HOWELL (Just get to the point...) Mon Oct 24 1994 10:48

    Ford
    	o Nice stand, lots of money spent, but couldn't be bothered to
    visit it
    
    Vauxhall
    	o Nice new Tigra, Omega, etc.
    
    Rover
    	o 'John Cooper' Mini, but nothing special. No MG Roadster. Did MG
    appear anywhere? I don't think I saw them if they did.
    
    Citreon
    	o Nothing special
    
    Renault
    	o New Espace, Laguna, etc.
    
    Peugeot
    	o 306
    
    Fiat
    	o Hitting on the new Fiat Coupe in a BIG way, plus Punto.
    
    Jaguar
    	o New XJ6 pretty tasty
    
    Porsche
    	o Closed stand, restyled machines but same old bumf as usual
    
    VW
    	o New POLO this, new POLO that, just the new POLO basically.
    
    BMW / Mercedes
    	o Closed stands but lots of very nice vehicles - as usual.
    
    Bentley
    	o Closed stand (are you surprised) but pure sex sculpted in metal
    
    Daewoo
    	o The big car manufacturer you've never heard of (with restyled
    old Astra's ... woopee )
    
    Proton/FSO/Skoda
    	o Didn't approach the stands, sorry.... :-)
    
    Lots of others :-
    
    	o Some very good stands, generally interesting, kept me and my
    friends busy for a good 4hours+.
    
    General Impressions
    ===================
    Either I missed them all because I didn't buy a show guide, or else the
    big supercar guys were absent - Ferrari, Bugatti, Dodge, Lamboghini,
    etc and McLaren
    
    re.McLaren - I must have missed this, yes? I could have sworn they were
    supposed to be at the show????? I didn't see the F1 anywhere.
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2331.1RIOT01::KINGbeers 'R' usMon Oct 24 1994 10:5915
    
    The Bugatti supercar (the one on the cover of Top Gear magazine
    recently) was on the Lotus/Bugatti stand, it was right in the centre.
    Either side were a few Lotus cars, all of which looked good.  There was
    a racing version of the Esprit (300?) round the side of the stand.
    
    The Lamborghini stand was a bit pathetic I thought.  All swirling
    artificial smoke and one Diablo (Diabolo?!) - it looked like the
    reduced-weight version that really shifts though.
    
    Can't remember the name, but some company was plugging the SEiGHT,
    small yellow thing with a huge engine and three spoke alloys...looked
    amazing.
    
    Chris.
2331.2FORTY2::HOWELLJust get to the point...Mon Oct 24 1994 11:2211
    re.-1
    
    	Oops, I missed the Bugatti AND the Lambo stand, so I take it all
    back!
    
    re. Westfield SEIGHT
    	Yeah, it's Westfield, Lotus 7 replica, VERY pokey (for 'pokey' read 
    'F40 performace' (okay not the top speed but....)
    
    	Uses Rover V8 engine last time I looked.... albeit a highly
    modified one!
2331.3METSYS::ALLENFink - The Funky FishMon Oct 24 1994 11:563
    Can anyone explain the Volvo stands "weird-room" with an egg harnessed
    onto a wooden trolley and spinning TV's and a circuit board with cars
    driving around it?!?
2331.4Can you say Humpty Dumpty?BAHTAT::DODDMon Oct 24 1994 12:105
    re .3
    
    Was the egg wearing a trilby?
    
    Andrew
2331.5another egg on wheels!!AIMTEC::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatMon Oct 24 1994 13:055
re .3

Are they building a new Isetta!!! :-)

Dave
2331.6Nah Nah NaNa NahAYOV25::SMOOREThu Nov 10 1994 05:0214
    I was at the NEC on the first Sunday,and it was very busy but I did see
    some of the cars others didn't ,the Lamborghini was the SE30 210mph
    0-60 in 3.something seconds,Ferrari weren't there because they were at
    the Paris Salon the week before and couldn't get the cars over quick
    enough,the Porche stand wasn't closed when I was there and they did
    have a 959,the Bugatti as mentioned before was at the Lotus stand,and
    the McLaren F1 was at the BMW stand (allegedly,'cos I never seen it and
    I walked right through it)presumably because of it's BMW Motorsport
    engine.
    With the show being so busy it took the enjoyment out of it slightly so
    next year I'll go mid-week.
    
    
         Steven.(from note 256.)
2331.7How much were the Hotdogs at tne NEC ?MOEUR8::VIPONDThu Nov 10 1994 08:4420
    
    If your ever in the Munich area and want to go to a free car show drive
    out past the old airport towards someplace I cant remember and go to
    AutoKonig. Its the Range Rover dealer and its the place where they keep
    all the exotic cars that you see for sale in the motoring press. If
    you've ever wondered about those adverts that have a 01049 number 
    this is the place. I used to get my Rover serviced there
    and the last time I was in there they had, 2 Lotus Esprit's, 2 Jag
    XJ220's, the new Aston, a Bugatti EB110, Diablo's and an assortment of
    other new, plus some very nice older cars as well. Its as you might
    expect a very nice garage, they even supply free coffee (in real china
    cups). AutoKonig also have a garage in town (Nymphemburg strasse) where
    they sell the Ferrari's and Porches, I wouldn't go to Munich just for a
    visit but if you have a few hours to kill its better to go there than
    to the Car shows and its free. I was also disapointed when attending
    the Munich car show to find the Porsche stand closed, is this standard
    practice for Porsche ? if it is I hope they never sell another car.
    
    
      
2331.8New cars at the NECUNTADE::TOPThu Nov 10 1994 14:0115
    I was watching Super Channel (groan) the other night, and they had a small
    report on the NEC. The cars they featured were :-
    
    Bentley Turbo S  - F1 mapped engine, 0-60 in 5.3 secs (in that monster!)
    TVR Cerbera(sp?) - looked stunning to me, but they didn't say much
                       about it. Hard top coupe.
    Jag. XJ          - looked better than the old one. They mentioned a
                       supercharged version that did 0-60 in 5.6, pretty
                       impressive.
    Aston DB7        - I want one.
    Merc.            - some sort of new, small, open top, pig ugly thing,
                       which according to the presenter was the star of the
                       show - dont ask me why.
    
    Al.
2331.9LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Thu Nov 10 1994 14:363
    .8�    Aston DB7        - I want one.
    
    Me too !
2331.10CGOOA::PITULEYAin't technology wonderful?Thu Nov 10 1994 15:164
    I'll take the new Jag.
    
    Brian
    
2331.11UNTADI::SAXBYI want to mow the grass on Sunday!Fri Nov 11 1994 13:134
    
    Is (was?) there a Munich motorshow this year?
    
    Mark
2331.12Waste of 50 MarksMOEUR8::VIPONDMon Nov 14 1994 08:438
    
    I seem to recall its earlier in the year, maybe April/May time
    frame, and it is (was) definately *NOT* worth going to. Walk down
    Leopoldstrasse or go down to St Emmerans Muhler for a drink nicer
    atmosphere, and better cars. 
    It was maybe 3/4 halls big and consisted mainly of jack and spanner
    salesmen, with a few Renault clios's and a Z1 (!!)
    
2331.13UNTADE::TOPMon Nov 14 1994 09:575
    re.-1 Agree entirely. Its crap.
    
    I heard TVR took 10 million quids worth of orders at the NEC!!!
    
    Al.
2331.14MOEUR8::VIPONDMon Nov 14 1994 10:053
    
    Finally doing something with all your dosh then Al !!!!
    
2331.15FORTY2::HOWELLJust get to the point...Mon Nov 14 1994 10:194
    Now the motorbike show.... hmm... there was some seriously horny
    machines there this weekend....
    
    ...sorry, this is the cars conference, isn't it ;-) !!!!!!