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1900.1 | calendar | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Thu Oct 15 1992 14:58 | 17 |
| 1993 World Rally Championship Calendar
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21-28 Jan Monte Carlo
11-14 Feb Sweden
02-07 Mar Portugal
08-13 Apr Safari
01-05 May Tour de Corse
29 May-03 Jun Acropolis
18-23 Jun Ivory Coast
14-17 Jul Argentina
04-08 Aug New Zealand
25-29 Aug 1000 lakes
18-20 Sep Australia
10-14 Oct San Remo
01-04 Nov Catalunia
21-25 Nov RAC
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1900.2 | | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Fri Nov 13 1992 13:00 | 13 |
| Is the rally championship becoming F1 ?
Jolly Club and Martini Racing were very quiet about 1993, letting
everyone believe they would gradually retire, following Lancia's
decision to stop supplying DELTA INTEGRALE racing cars. This has led
Auriol to leave a very succesful team.
Now, the latest rumour is that Jolly Club/Martini Racing will be
present in 1993 with ... Carlos SAINZ as No 1 driver. Juha KANKKUNEN
could be exchanged with Carlos and be part of Toyota together with
AURIOL.
Musical chairs ?
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1900.3 | | WEOPON::LP12 | | Sat Nov 14 1992 03:59 | 10 |
| Yes, with Lancia entering 1993 weight cars in Australia, it seems clear
that they have some fairly active plans for 1993 despite their past
"decision" to withdraw.
I wonder if the success of this car, and Toyota's troubles with the
Celica have been an influence.
Shame about losing Auriol though. He's had such a good year.
-Dave.
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1900.4 | | ESBS01::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Mon Nov 23 1992 10:06 | 21 |
| At the end of the first day of the RAC, Carlos Sainz was in the lead by
20 seconds. I believe he was in the lead all day, having set fastest
time on three of the first 5 stages (of 9 run on Sunday).
During the day, Malcolm Wilson had been in 2nd place (in an aRSe
Cosworth Sierra Sapphire thingy). At the end of the day, he had
dropped down to something like 7th (memory's a bit dodgy).
Colin McRae (Subaru) was showing very well, ending the day in 3rd place,
with Miki Biasion in 2nd place in a Ford.
Auriol had not had a very good day (he says that he dislikes this event)
and I think he was at about 10th position.
I cannot remember quite where Kankunnen was, but he was above Auriol,
about 6th or 8th position...
Second day of the event started at 5am this morning. If anyone can
enter some accurate positions, I'd appreciate it.
J.R.
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1900.5 | It's not to far. | REPAIR::ATKINS | Comfortably numb | Mon Nov 23 1992 11:05 | 7 |
|
Does anyone know if there will be s stage at Blenhiem palace this
year?
If so,when?
Cheers
Andy.
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1900.6 | | ESBS01::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Mon Nov 23 1992 11:40 | 7 |
| � Does anyone know if there will be s stage at Blenheim palace this year
If so, I would have thought it to be held on the Sunday, as that is
when the [Mickey Mouse] spectator stages are held. The rest are in
*proper* rally locations (with the occasional exception).
J.R.
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1900.7 | McRae for Trabant works team next year ! | MANWRK::LEACH | | Mon Nov 23 1992 11:46 | 4 |
| Anyone know where the Trabant is currently. Last time I heard it had
overtaken 29 cars and was only 138 places of the lead ;^)
Shaun.
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1900.8 | McRae leads | YUPPY::PATEMAN | TOCA - Take Our Cocaine Abroad | Mon Nov 23 1992 14:44 | 4 |
| Colin McRae has taken the lead from Sainz after SS15. Lead is 1 sec!
Malcom Wilson is now around 8th.
Paul
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1900.9 | Lombards last yeart | UNTADH::WILCOCKSON | Brrrrrrr | Wed Nov 25 1992 15:03 | 8 |
|
I read (somewhere??) that Lombard are offering 100,000 quid to any
British driver (you mean McRae?) who wins the RAC Rally this year.
This is due to this being their last year of sponsership of the event.
That must be spurring him on a bit eh?
Anybody heard what Ford plan to do with their Cossie Escort, drivers,
when they plan to enter it?
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1900.10 | A very biased view on the rally scene... | ESBS01::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Wed Nov 25 1992 15:32 | 40 |
| � I read (somewhere??) that Lombard are offering 100,000 quid to any
� British driver (you mean McRae?) who wins the RAC Rally this year.
That's true. It is the last year of sponsorship of this event
by Lombard and this is their reason for offering this extra prize.
On the TV coverage, they keep on making a big thing of it, saying that
it will lead to a lot of pressure on McRae to win (bit late now?).
Personally, I would have thought that the prospect of winning
this event would cause so much pressure that the though of winning
a lump sum of 100 grand would actually fade into the background !
� Anybody heard what Ford plan to do with their Cossie Escort, drivers,
� when they plan to enter it?
Ford intend using their Cows-worth Escort in WRC events, since it has
a much better chance of winning than the Sierra/Sapphire.
My view is that they will have a large presence in British events and
will not do very well against existing World Championship teams (being
Lancia, Toyota, Subaru, Nissan and Mazda - probably in that order).
Near the end of the year, their team management will probably be
getting to grips with world-class events and the car should be
developed well enough under serious rally conditions to be in the
running for some wins, when the rules will all be changed for the
following year - WHEN TURBO's WILL BE BANNED !
All my opinion, but very likely to be the case.
Note that GM (or Vauxhall) are not bothering with the effort and
(more importantly) the expense of rallying the 4WD Calibra Turbo,
as they can use the 16v Astra right now (and there is a class for
cars without turbo-chargers in the championship as it is...)
Basically, (I think) Ford have forgotten how to win rallies.
Or maybe they never learnt how to win them following the end of Group 4 !
Just compare what the aRSe Cosworth Escort is compared to the [scrapped]
RS1700T which was proposed *many* years ago. Only 4WD as an improvement ?
J.R.
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1900.11 | | NEWOA::SAXBY | Mean and Brooklands Green! | Wed Nov 25 1992 15:41 | 25 |
|
> Note that GM (or Vauxhall) are not bothering with the effort and
> (more importantly) the expense of rallying the 4WD Calibra Turbo,
Not entirely true. The Calibra Turbo actually recently won its first
event (A Rallysprint like event in Denmark, I think, beating
Integrales and Celicas). There is also some question over what car some
of the other European subsidaries will run in their home championships.
The Belgians (whose 16v FWD Calibra recently finished well in Sam Remo)
are thinking of using the Turbo Calibra. You are, of course, right
about the Vauxhall entry, but that's a step UP for them, from the small
Nova.
> Just compare what the aRSe Cosworth Escort is compared to the [scrapped]
> RS1700T which was proposed *many* years ago. Only 4WD as an improvement ?
I hadn't thought of the comparison before, but there's not a lot of
difference is there? Although the RS1700T was _supposed_ to be a Group
B rally car and the RS Cosworth is a _supposed_ to be road car first and
foremost.
Mark
PS Is the turbo ban your opinion of what may happen or definite? I've
heard this talked of in many areas.
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1900.12 | No Nissan | MILE::JENKINS | Suitably refreshed | Wed Nov 25 1992 16:26 | 10 |
|
Ford should have no trouble beating Nissan next year as Nissan won't
be participating :-)
Although the Vauxhall rep said they'd decided to run the GSI because
it was cheaper, I also think that the Calibra is simply too heavy
to compete effectively against the likes of the Lancia or Toyota.
Richard.
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1900.13 | | NEWOA::SAXBY | Mean and Brooklands Green! | Wed Nov 25 1992 16:34 | 13 |
|
> I also think that the Calibra is simply too heavy to compete effectively
> against the likes of the Lancia or Toyota.
I doubt it. The Cavalier competes effectively in the touring car
championship against smaller cars and the 16v Calibra was head and
shoulders ahead of the other 2wd competition in San Remo.
The Celica and Integrale are limited to a minimum weight, I expect a
serious GM Turbo Calibra/Cavalier challenger could reach that limit
with ease.
Mark
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1900.14 | My tuppence, again | ESBS01::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Wed Nov 25 1992 16:57 | 26 |
| � PS Is the turbo ban your opinion of what may happen or definite? I've
� heard this talked of in many areas.
This is entirely my own opinion. No real fact to back it up.
Personally, I think that since Group A was brought in [partly] to
reduce performance of rally cars, then that would have been the best
time to ban turbos. After all, there had been a number of fires in
Group B cars. Without a red-hot turbo, you decrease the risk of fire
(although the brake discs would still get to be red hot in operation).
Also, there was never any worthwhile way to test the output of a
rally car to ensure that it didn't break the '300 bhp' rule.
With 'atmo' engines, this would be much less of a problem. If an
engine (of 2-litre capacity) is tuned to give over 300 horsepower,
it will not deliver good low-end power, so will not have much effect
in making a rally car go faster overall.
[I think] one of the reasons that turbos were not banned in the
original formation of Group A regulations would have been because a
fair number of manufacturers were fitting 'standard' cars with turbos.
Nowadays, that appears to have been something of a fashion (albeit one
that generates some pretty decent cars) that has been superseded by
the trend for more-than-two-valves-per-cylinder engines.
J.R.
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1900.15 | 1993 Changes | WEOPON::LP12 | | Thu Nov 26 1992 21:15 | 35 |
| The only changes due to the Group A regulations in 1993 are the
increased weight limit (to 1200kg) and a decrease in tyre widths from
660mm to 650mm.
There are no plans to ban turbo's.
Although it is clear that all the top contenders for the title are
generating more than the mandated 300hp, they are certainly nowhere
near the 550+hp that Audi annd Peugeot and Lancia were delivering in
the old Group 'B' days (pretty wild for mostly under 2 litre engines).
Interesting enough though, with advances in aerodynamics (following on
from the 205T16E2 and Quattro S1) and transmissions, cars with 350hp on
tap have been faster than the Group B cars over special stages at least
for the last 2 years. One of the reasons that Group B was banned was
that the cars weren't really able to handle all the power (an consequent
speed) that they developed (remember Vatanen's accident in Argentina?).
One of the reasons why people are suggesting Lancia may continue next
year (overiding their stated intention to pull out) is that they have
been running a 1993-spec car for the last few rally's (although with
660mm tyres). Toyota have clearly had their hands full getting the 1992
car to preform and haven't even started working on their 1993 car. So
Lancia may feel they they will continue to have a comeptitive
advantage. Maybe though 5 successive world championships is getting a
bit boring and they may be worried about what Mr Todt of Peugeot is
doing with his time (and a 405 4wd turbo)...
re: Ford. The car is clearly a good one with good aerodynamics. But so
was the Nissan. What makes a winning difference is the commitment of
the manufacturer, the professionalism of the team, the tyre
manufacturers and the drivers. There are a lot of things to get
together for Ford yet.
-Dave
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1900.16 | SAINZ will drive a LANCIA in 1993 | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Sat Dec 05 1992 11:16 | 7 |
| Official !
Carlos SAINZ and JOLLY CLUB/MARTINI have officially announced a
one-year contract (1993).
This really sounds like musical chairs: AURIOL leaves the LANCIA camp
(JOLLY CLUB MARTINI) for TOYOTA while SAINZ does the opposite.
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1900.17 | Kankkunen and Peugeot | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Tue Dec 15 1992 17:58 | 9 |
| Juha Kankkunen also leaves the Jolly Club camp (Martini have given up)
and follows Auriol at Toyota.
Peugeot have introduced the 405T16 at the Paris Auto Show. The 405T16
is a 4WD (with central viscodrive and a rear Torsen) equipped with a
2ltr 16 valve turbo-charged engine. Peak power: 200bhp with 220bhp on
overboost for 45 seconds max. This car will be available for sale in
France in Feb 1993. My guess is that Peugeot are getting ready to enter
another discipline in motor sport. Will they do it ?
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1900.18 | news from Monte Carlo | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Mon Jan 04 1993 10:19 | 20 |
| Happy New Year Rally fans !
The ACM (Automobile Club de Monaco) organisers of the MonteCarlo Rally,
report that they had received 160+ requests for participation by the
deadline 31-Dec-1992. Current regulations only allow 150 participants.
This is a good sign. Previous rumours indicated that there might be
less than 100 entrants, due to the current worldwide economy slump.
Most rally teams are (and have spent several weeks) testing their cars
at different places on the MonteCarlo Rally roads. The hilly area west
of the Rhone valley is the preferred area. Ford have been working on
the new 4WD Escort Cosworth more than any other team. Auriol and
Kankkunen have quickly set fast times with their Toyota Celica 4WD
while the Repsol sponsored Jolly Club Lancia team have had difficulty
finding a free area to have Carlos Sainz do some preliminary testing.
December has been mild and dry, but things changed a week ago with
temperatures below freezing, ice and even some snow.
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1900.19 | Gr A top teams/drivers/cars | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Tue Jan 05 1993 14:09 | 9 |
| The Gr. A works teams will look like:
Toyota Team Europe Auriol Kankkunen
Jolly Club Sainz Aghini
Ford Biasion Delecour
Mitsubishi Eriksson Schwarz
These 8 drivers/cars should be present for the whole season and will be
competing for the 1993 title.
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1900.20 | It's Monte Carlo time ... | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Sat Jan 23 1993 14:22 | 8 |
| Was in Lausanne on business trip Wed-Fri. So Wed night just got out in
the cold night for a walk when I walked into a crowd. It was the start
of the Monte Carlo. Lausanne is one of the 5 european starting points.
No big names (Serpaggi, Dor maybe). About 25 cars, mostly Escorts (the
new 4WD Cosworth).
No snow. Good weather for the time being ...
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1900.21 | Dawn of a new era in Rallying? | 49973::SIMPSON | The future sure isn't what it used to be | Mon Jan 25 1993 11:04 | 7 |
| Both Lancias have gone in accidents - just when Sainz was looking to challenge
the leader.
Delacour and Biasion are comfortably leading 1-2 in their Escorts - lets see if
Francois can keep it on the road this year. The two Celicas are 3rd and 4th.
-Steve
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1900.22 | | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Mon Jan 25 1993 15:54 | 20 |
| some details:
- Delecour decided to go flat out in the early stages and build a big
gap. Strategy worked fine
- Biasion is experiencing some problems with the engine
- Auriol has had problems with handbrake leading him to spin, crash
into a wall and puncture tyres
- Sainz has suffered from punctured tyres too
- Schwarz has crashed in the early stages
- a spectator has been killed when Jean-Pierre Ballet's 309 GTI 16 came
out wide from a corner
- Sunday: both Lancias crashed during the final timed stage. Aghini
could not restart while Sainz managed to bring the car home but lost
40' in the accident (ice on narrow stone bridge)
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1900.23 | MonteCarlo still far away | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Mon Jan 25 1993 17:59 | 8 |
| Monday 25 Jan - after 17th stage
1. Delecour Ford
2. Biasion Ford + 1'03"
3. Auriol Toyota + 1'11"
4. Kankkunen Toyota + 5'20
5. Eriksson Mitsu +11'...
......
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1900.24 | comments | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Mon Jan 25 1993 18:03 | 12 |
| Auriol is back into great shape. Today he has won several stages by a
very wide margin. Sainz has won one stage. The Ford guys are still in
the lead but the Toyota is closing up fast.
Schwarz who suffered transmission problems (after his initial mishap)
started the day with 4WD but soon found himself with a FWD car very
difficult to handle ("at those speeds I don't even need notes ...")
Biasion's Escort Cosworth cannot use full revs.
Auriol's Toyota works fine now that the engineers have retuned the
engine. No more mistakes in the tyres choice.
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1900.25 | | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Tue Jan 26 1993 08:56 | 4 |
| Today, 26 Jan, the drivers take a break in Monte Carlo. The final task
starts tonight around midnight. They will have to race 5 special stages
(Turini pass and others in the mountains north of Cannes-Grasse).
Finish line in MonteCarlo around 8am tomorrow.
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1900.26 | Auriol wins Monte | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Thu Jan 28 1993 13:32 | 3 |
| Didier Auriol has managed to win the MonteCarlo Rally with a gap of 15
seconds over Francois Delecour. I don't have any details on how he's
managed to do this, but it must have been something to watch.
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1900.27 | Oh to have seen it live! | UNTADH::WILCOCKSON | Smoke Tabs | Mon Feb 01 1993 12:40 | 9 |
|
Brilliant driving by Auriol - his co-driver even admitted to watching the
pace notes rather than the road (which he couldn't bare to watch!) when
Didier was really pressing on - must have been great to watch live.
The Fords look like they are going to be the cars to beat, it was
looking like an Escort Cossy 1,2 before Didier did his stuff.
Sainz doesn't seem 'at home' in the Integrale yet, but time will tell.
I reckon this will be the best season for a long time.
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1900.28 | mechanical problems on the new Fords | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Thu Feb 04 1993 09:47 | 15 |
| I've just got a report from friends who were standing by the last night
stages. Auriol and Sainz were going flat-out, late brakings, maximum
attack, spinning through hairpins at top speed, left foot braking and
right foot acceleration, everything.
The Ford men, Delecour and Biasion were noted for gentle driving, almost
stopping through hairpins. Sounds like they really had severe problems
with engine or transmission and were given instructions to bring the
cars home ...
Actually, during the final night, Delecour won the 1st stage (Turini
pass) by 5 seconds over Auriol. It turned out that Auriol had a slight
mishap during the downhill portion. The next (final) 4 stages Auriol
did not make any more mistakes and he always went faster than Delecour
by a wide margin.
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1900.29 | Jonsson wins Swedish Rally 2nd year in a row | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Tue Feb 16 1993 10:54 | 19 |
| Mats Jonsson, Toyota has won the Swedish Rally some 13 seconds ahead of
team mate Juha Kankkunen.
This year's event, unlike most previous year's, was run on 'dry roads',
no snow, no ice. Apparently the swedish forrest roads are covered with
all sorts of debris, stones, etc ... so most drivers experienced
punctures.
Also because of the dry roads most cars were set for icy conditions and
have suffered mechanical problems.
The strong men this year, except for Mats Jonsson who has worked his
way up to the top, were:
- Didier Auriol (engine oil pressure problems)
- Colin McRae
- Juha Kankkunen
No Lancias and no Fords present.
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1900.30 | Auriol may be back to 0 points | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Tue Feb 16 1993 11:01 | 15 |
| As indicated, Didier Auriol has suffered engine oil problems. He could
not finish the race but he is facing a more serious problem. During a
special stage the pressure dropped. Having stopped he took an oil can
and added 5l of lubricant into the engine and drove to the finish line.
Apparently the oil can was NOT carried in the car and was handed by a
spectator (a Toyota race team member ?). This is strictly forbidden by
the Championship rules. Didier has been disqualified (no problem since
the engine died later anyway).
What's more important is that if he is found guilty of the above the
rules say that he looses the points of his best result of the season ie
the 20 points of his MonteCarlo victory.
It will be interesting to see the results of the investigation.
|
1900.31 | Portugal results | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Tue Mar 09 1993 10:17 | 28 |
| Francois Delecour and Miki Biasion have won the Portugal Rally. This is
a first victory for both the new 4wd Ford Escort Cosworth and for
Francois Delecour.
Delecour and Biasion have led from start to finish. Carlos Sainz has
never been in position to challenge the Fords, he has left the rally
during stage no 22 when he crashed.
Portugal final results:
1. Delecour Ford
2. Biasion Ford
3. Aghini Lancia
4. Alen Subaru
5. Eriksson Mitsubishi
6. Fiorio Lancia
World Rally Championship standings after Portugal
Drivers Manufacturers
Delecour 35 Toyota 40
Biasion 27 Ford 37
Kankkunen 23 Mitsubishi 33
Auriol 20 Subaru 26
....
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1900.32 | almost 2 months to go .. | ULYSSE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584 | Tue Mar 09 1993 10:18 | 1 |
| Next race: Corsica 2-4 May
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1900.33 | Curious | SUBURB::GROOMN | Eating for England | Tue Mar 09 1993 13:21 | 5 |
| Can someone explain how it is the Ford drivers are 1st and 2nd yet
Ford are 2nd in the Constructors .
Nev
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1900.34 | Escort Cossie in the US | OASS::BURDEN_D | A bear in his natural habitat | Tue Mar 09 1993 15:46 | 11 |
| A regional SCCA PRO Rally will be held in Helen, GA, USA this
weekend (equal to a club event in the UK I gather) and one of the
cars entered is an Escort Cosworth 4WD! I plan on attending
the event to watch and take some pictures.
It has been entered by a driver from Maine and they evidently
built it up in the US with parts from the UK, since the car
is not imported into the US. John Buffum will be his co-driver,
so I have a feeling JB either built the car or helped.
Dave
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1900.35 | snowed out! | OASS::BURDEN_D | A bear in his natural habitat | Fri Mar 19 1993 19:59 | 17 |
| Would you believe they had to cancel the rally because of snow? As
you might have heard we had a massive snow storm up the entire
east coast of the US last weekend. Atlanta got between 6-10"
and the North GA Mountains (hills, really) got up towards to 2 feet
in places. Some places are still being dug out, 4 days later....
Everyone showed up Friday night, but the snow came Saturday and
shut *everything* down.
Rumor has it that the Escort has around 380 bhp and weighs 2600lbs.
It is expected to blow away the Audi Quattros and everything else
this year in the US SCCA series. It also has a 7 speed gearbox!
Dave
ps - I got the technical info from a driver who did show up, I stayed
home with the flu....
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1900.36 | Tolls in rallying ? | CHUND::EATON | A quattro is not a spreadsheet... | Thu Apr 01 1993 04:00 | 11 |
| Autosport reports that Toyota have been fined $300K for their infringement
in the Swedish rally when Auriol stopped to fill the engine with oil,
provided by a spectator in a no-service zone.
Apparently they would have faced disqualification but for the fact that
the appropriate rule had not been ratified.
Seems a bit hard on Auriol when the engine expired anyway, forcing him
out. (He was disqualified at the event).
-Dave.
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1900.37 | Safari Rally | RUTILE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux, DTN 885-6771 | Tue Apr 20 1993 08:51 | 22 |
| World Rally Championship Safari Rally results
======================== = ====================
1-2-3-4 win for the 4 car Toyota team.
1. Kankkunen Toyota Celica Turbo 4WD
2. Alen Toyota
3. Duncan Toyota
4. Iwase Toyota
.....
Drivers championship standings Manufacturers
---------------------------------------------
1. Kankkunen 43 1. Toyota 60
2. Delecour 35 2. Ford 37
3. Biasion 27 3. Mitsubishi 33
4. Alen 25 4. Subaru 26
5. Auriol 20 5. Lancia 14
Jonsson 20
........ .....
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1900.38 | McRae went faster than one Toyota Celica Turbo | RUTILE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux, DTN 885-6771 | Tue Apr 20 1993 08:54 | 4 |
| Apparently Subaru had entered 3 microcars (Subaru Vivio, 600cc,
supercharger, 70bhp peak, 4WD, 145kph top speed). One was driven
expertly by Colin McRae, who managed to get up to 4th place at some
point before he crashed and bent suspension links.
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1900.39 | Tour de Corse | RUTILE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux, DTN 885-6771 | Mon May 03 1993 12:05 | 10 |
| Tour de Corse.
End of day 1 (sunday 2-May)
Delecour, Ford Escort Cosworth leads by 1'05" over Auriol, Toyota. 3rd
is Sainz on a Lancia Integrale HF, 4th is Chatriot, Toyota. 5th is
Aghini , Lancia.
Local man Loubet on Toyota is delayed by punctures. Biasion has been
penalized 11 minutes.
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1900.40 | Is Juha Kanukken out ? | CHUND::EATON | A quattro is not a spreadsheet... | Mon May 03 1993 23:08 | 3 |
| Sainz 11 seconds back from Auriol. Should be good.
-Dave
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1900.41 | Tour de Corse 2nd day | RUTILE::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux, DTN 885-6771 | Tue May 04 1993 09:44 | 10 |
| Kankkunen and the other finns did not enter. It's a well known fact
that they don't like asphalt roads (unlike latin drivers).
Day 2
Delecour suffered engine problems (fuel injection) and lost 50 seconds
but kept the lead while Auriol was chasing him hard. With a revitalised
engined Delecour won 4 timed stages in a row to finish the 2nd day with
a 51 seconds lead over Auriol. 3rd man is Francois Chatriot (one time
Toyota driver).
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1900.42 | Delecour in Bastia | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 828-4150 | Wed May 05 1993 18:33 | 33 |
| Delecour did it again !
Final results:
1. Delecour Ford
2. Auriol Toyota + 1'02"
3. Chatriot Toyota + 2'42"
4. Sainz Lancia + 3'48"
5. McRae Subaru + 9'03"
6. Beguin Ford +16'31"
7. Biasion Ford +18'58"
8. Ragnotti Clio W +21'30" (1st 2 litre N/A)
....
Delecour has won 14 special stages on a total of 24 !
Rally Championship standings after Corsica
Drivers Manufacturers
----------------------------------------------------------
Delecour 55 Toyota 77
Kankkunen 43 Ford 57
Auriol 35 Subaru 36
Biasion 31 Mitsubishi 33
Alen 25 Lancia 26
McRae 24 .....
Jonsson 20
Eriksson 18
Aghini 12
Duncan 12
Chatriot 12
Sainz 10
....
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1900.43 | Grp N? | OASS::FLASHE::BURDEN_D | A bear in his natural habitat | Wed May 05 1993 18:49 | 5 |
| re: Ragnotti
Is that still Group N or did they change the classes?
Dave
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1900.44 | Group A, 2 litre category | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Wed May 05 1993 19:01 | 16 |
| .43� re: Ragnotti
.43�
.43� Is that still Group N or did they change the classes?
No, that's Group A. There's a movement towards 2WD, 2litre, normally
aspirated engines. No championship yet, but a category. The french
manufacturers are very interested.
Renault have developped a 2 litre version of the Clio 16S, called Clio
Williams, and have supposedly built 2500 units to get Group A
homologation. I looked at the road version which is spec'd at 150bhp
(129kFF).
Tour de Corse Group N winner is
10. Manfrinato Ford Escort Cosworth +40'49"
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1900.45 | understand | OASS::FLASHE::BURDEN_D | A bear in his natural habitat | Wed May 05 1993 19:28 | 14 |
| Okay, thanks for the clarification. So possibly there will be a split
inside Grp A, 4wd/turbo and 2wd/non-turbo, then still a Grp N. Sounds
good for the entrants.
We had a similar thing happen in the SCCA rallying over here. We have
Grp A (same as yours), but not too many entrants. The 'top' class is
simply named Open. That's were all the 4wd/turbo cars end up, like old
quattros and such. It's also were all the old Grp N (Production and
Production GT) cars end up. Lots of them are 2wd/non-turbo or at least
not 500bhp wonders like the top cars. Some regions have implemented an
'Open Lights' class for the older Prod/Prod GT cars which will at least
make them competetive within the class.
Dave
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1900.46 | | CHUND::EATON | A quattro is not a spreadsheet... | Thu May 06 1993 01:00 | 4 |
| Yes, on a national level, there seems to be a big future for the "Formula 2"
category because of it's lower costs...
-Dave.
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1900.47 | the Clio Williams | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Thu May 06 1993 14:39 | 11 |
| I forgot to mention that the Tour de Corse was the debut of the Renault
Clio Williams both in Group A (Ragnotti, Oreille) and in Group N form
(Jordan, Balesi).
The 2 GrA cars finished in 8th and 9th position. The 2 GrN cars led the
GrN for a good portion of the race but suffered lots of problems and (I
think) DNF.
The rumour (FFSA at least) is that there will be a 'formula 2'
championship in 1994. Will it be national (France) or international
(FISA), I don't know. Balestre (FFSA president) is pushing for it.
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1900.48 | *** COLIN McRAE WON NEW ZEALAND *** | MACNAS::GGARRETT | | Mon Aug 09 1993 09:32 | 2 |
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1900.49 | | WARNUT::ALLEN | It works better if you plug it in.. | Mon Aug 09 1993 12:09 | 7 |
| Now will people believe that Subaru isn't a joke?
Actually the win was probably engineered to solve the embarassment of running
the Impreza at the next round. Fuji industries originally said that Prodrive
could only do that if the Legacy won in NZ. Prodrive pressured and got the
decision overturned, however I doubt Fuji were very pleased. They can't say
a lot now though, can they!
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1900.50 | nope | SIOG::KANE | massively caramel | Mon Aug 09 1993 13:56 | 5 |
| ��Now will people believe that Subaru isn't a joke?
Tsck ! Good one :-)
I've got one: Paddy Englishman, Paddy Scottsma...
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1900.51 | McRae in NZ. | WEOPSS::SCHWABE | | Fri Aug 27 1993 00:47 | 35 |
| I followed the NZ rally. McRae certainly drove well and without his usual
over-exhuberant style !
Sympathy for Ari who lead after the 1st day (after Delecour had gifted him
the lead) and was flying on the Motu stage (The longest and probably toughest
of any SS in the championship) before hitting a rock and retiring during
the stage. We were in a 'copter following him at the time and the poor
guy was obviously very upset...
On the last day, Delecour was obviously in 2 minds about what to do. After
2 stages he was only 7 seconds behind McRae and it looked like he could
take the rally, but then he eased off, McRae went faster and Delecour
was luck to keep 2nd place from the hard charging Auriol. In the end
2 seconds was all that separated them. Auriol was unhappy.
This is my first look at the Escort. It is a very tidy car. It impresses
with the way it sticks to the road without needing lots of left foot
breaking, oversteering etc to make it work fast. Although Delecour has a
very even, tidy style anyway, even with Biasson the car looked very
composed. The whisper is that the trick rear diff is responsible. I had a
look at it and it looked pretty conventional to me.
I was present at the Ford service at the end of the 1st night and the
discussion between Delecour and the team management about the tactics for
the 2nd day were interesting. 30 minutes later Delecour deliberatley
incurred 20 seconds time penalties so as not to be the first car on the
Motu.
Sainz tried very hard but was denied a crack at winning by an engine
misfire during the 2nd day.
Great rally. Credit to McRae, in no way was this easy for him. Everyone
but everyone was pleased to see Subaru do it after 10 years of trying...
-Dave Eaton.
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1900.52 | | MACNAS::GGARRETT | | Sat Aug 28 1993 13:49 | 2 |
| After 8 stages, Kankkunen leads the 1000 Lakes in his Celica GT4 with
Ari second in a Subaru Impreza 555.
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1900.53 | 1000 Lakes Result | MACNAS::GGARRETT | | Mon Aug 30 1993 09:32 | 4 |
| 1st Juha Kankkunen Celica GT4
2nd Ari Vatanen Impreza 555
3rd Dider Auriol Celica GT4
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1900.54 | | WARNUT::ALLEN | It works better if you plug it in.. | Tue Aug 31 1993 18:03 | 7 |
| I keeps tellin people how good these Subarus are..........
Not a bad result for first time out eh! :-))))))
Mike
Yes of course I own one!
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1900.55 | anybody know .....? | AYOU35::WARREN | | Tue Sep 14 1993 16:26 | 9 |
| Now that Prodrive seems to be going well (initially) with the Impreza (imprezza)
is there any plans for them to introduce the car into the British Championship
next year, thus doing away with the Legacy ?
warren just-purely-and-utterly-curious
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1900.56 | Australia | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Wed Sep 22 1993 10:12 | 9 |
| Australia final results
1. Kankkunen Toyota
2. Vatanen Subaru
3. Delecour Ford
4. Dunkerton Mitsubishi
5. Raider Audi
6. McRae Subaru
....
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1900.57 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Wed Sep 22 1993 10:15 | 11 |
| Championship standings after Australia
Drivers Makes
1. Kankkunen 111 1. Toyota 151 (1993 champion)
2. Delecour 82 2. Ford 125
3. Auriol 71 3. Subaru 90
4. Biasion 66 4. Mitsubishi 69
5. McRae 50 5. Lancia 67
6. Sainz 35 6. Renault 4 (!)
..........
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1900.58 | San Remo WRC | MACNAS::GGARRETT | | Wed Oct 13 1993 09:23 | 9 |
| Delecour lead early on, with Liatti (Subaru) in second. However
Delecour has retired and Liatti has dropped to sixth.
After 20 stages:
1. Cunico Ford
2. Sainz Lancia
3. Snijers Ford
Ends today Wednesday.
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1900.59 | rain and haze | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Wed Oct 13 1993 12:38 | 7 |
| Yep, the Toyotas did not enter, Delecour went off road on stage 7,
Biasion disappeared shortly after, Aghini did the same, no Subarus, ...
that leaves us with Gianfranco Cunico in the Escort a couple of minutes
ahead of Sainz in the Lancia.
This was probably Delecour's last chance to challenge Kankkunen for the
title (arithmetically there's still a very small chance).
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1900.60 | Shock Result - Cunico Wins | MACNAS::GGARRETT | | Thu Oct 14 1993 09:14 | 1 |
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1900.61 | San Remo | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Thu Oct 14 1993 11:12 | 21 |
| San Remo results
----------------
1. Cunico Ford Escort Cosworth
2. Sainz Lancia Integrale
3. Snijers ....
...........
World Rally Championship standings after San Remo
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Drivers Makes
1. Kankkunen 111 1. Toyota 151 (1993 champion)
2. Delecour 82 2. Ford 125
3. Auriol 71 3. Subaru 100
4. Biasion 66 4. Lancia 84
5. McRae 50 5. Mitsubishi 69
6. Sainz 35 6. Renault 4
7. Vatanen 30
8. ... more
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1900.62 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Fri Nov 05 1993 11:20 | 8 |
| Catalunya Results
-----------------
1. Delecour Ford
2. Auriol Toyota
3. Kankkunen Toyota
4. Biasion Ford
5. Fiorio
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1900.63 | Bravo KK ! | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Fri Nov 05 1993 18:00 | 9 |
| Forgot to add the most important piece of data:
.62� 3. Kankkunen Toyota
With this 3rd place in Spain
Kankkunen wins the 1993 world rally champion title
(4th title if I count correctly)
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1900.64 | RAC Rally, results please | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Mon Nov 22 1993 12:25 | 5 |
| RAC Rally
Anyone listening ? UK readers please feed us with detailed info ....
Last night, 1st day of the rally, after 7 stages, Kankkunen was leading
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1900.65 | | WARNUT::ALLEN | It works better if you screw it in.. | Mon Nov 22 1993 14:14 | 25 |
| I went to the car to get the news. The news coverage you must understand is
somewhat thin unless you can get near a TV!
Here is what I gleaned.
As at SS15
Juha Kankannun is still 1st
Colin McRae now second only 13 secs adrift even after spinning off on SS13
Malcolm Wilson appears to be 3 1min 50 secs back (I'm not sure I believe the
position)
4th is Didier Auriol
5th Francois Delacour
13th Alastair McRae despite hitting a tree
Roger Clark's son has retired after an accident on SS11.
If anyone has any more details from any source (Internet??) please put us out of
our misery.
Like where is Ari?, the Mitsubishis? If Malcom Wilson is 3rd nearly 2 minutes
back is it a 2 horse race?
WHAT IS HAPPENING?????
Mike
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1900.66 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Tue Nov 23 1993 07:53 | 11 |
| RAC Rally - End of Day 2 - 19SS
-------------------------------
1. McRae
2. Kankkunen
3. Wilson
4. Eriksson
5. Delecour
6. Auriol
..... Sainz, Schwarz, ... ? Where are they ?
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1900.67 | Spain? | FUTURS::SAXBY | Is it friday yet? | Tue Nov 23 1993 08:59 | 4 |
|
Sainz is at home, isn't he?
Mark
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1900.68 | | WARNUT::ALLEN | It works better if you screw it in.. | Tue Nov 23 1993 09:54 | 25 |
| SS19
1 C McRae 1hr 48m 24s Subaru Impreza
2 Kankunen 2hr 48m 45s Toyota Celica
3 Wilson 2hr 50m 48s Ford Escort
4 Eriksson 2hr 50m 58s Mitsubishi Ralliart
5 Delacour 2hr 51m 08s Ford Escort
6 Auriol 2hr 51m 43s Toyota Celica
7 Burns 2hr 54m 20s Subaru Legacy
8 Vatanen 2hr 54m 27s Subaru Impreza
9 Jonsson 2hr 56m 40s Toyota Celica
10 A McRae 2hr 58m 28s Subaru Legacy
11 Head 2hr 58m 57s Ford Escort
12 Evans 2hr 59m 24s Ford Escort
13 Lindholm 2hr 59m 40m Ford Escort
14 Schwarz 3hr 05m 51m Mitsubishi Ralliart
Sorry I can't give much more as my phone line is down so I couldn't copy much
more from the ceefax.
Schwarz and Vatanen had major offs, it was VERY icy. Rumour has it that Kankunen
slowed down so that if it snowed he could follow McRaes wheel tracks. He didn't
confirm or deny it! I hope it doesn't snow!
Mike
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1900.69 | | WARNUT::ALLEN | It works better if you screw it in.. | Tue Nov 23 1993 10:08 | 2 |
| Carlos Sainz is indeed away because there are no Lancias. They weren't quick
enough so they took their ball and went home.
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1900.70 | | WARNUT::ALLEN | It works better if you screw it in.. | Tue Nov 23 1993 12:52 | 11 |
| Colin McRae is out. He hit a rock on SS21 and lost all the water from the engine
with the resulting obvious consequences. This time it was the stage after
Grizedale but it happens to be the longest stage thus no chance of repair before
the engine blew.
Several others have had the same problems, including Malcolm Wilson, though he
has managed to stay in 5th.
Again, complain to the BBC Radio 5 for the pathetic information!
Mike
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1900.71 | | OASS::STDBKR::Burden_d | Synchromesh gearboxes are for wimps | Tue Nov 23 1993 14:32 | 7 |
| Any chance of getting a complete list of entries? A fellow rallyist from
the US, Tim O'Neil, has been in England most of the year crewing and hoping
to get a ride at some point this year. I don't know if he managed to get a
ride for the RAC or just some club events.
Thanks
Dave
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1900.72 | rally latest | WARNUT::ALLEN | It works better if you screw it in.. | Tue Nov 23 1993 16:58 | 35 |
| Dave
Have you got a fax number at work, I'll bring it in if I remember.
In the meantime, hot off Ceefax
Colin McRae holed a radiator 5 miles into the 2nd stage of the day a 25
mile stage. The cambelt melted was the quote!!!! I would have thought
that was the least of his problems!
An accident on SS21 involving William Hill (broken foot) and codriver
Clive Hilton (broken hand) in a Ford Escort stopped the stage and crews
starting in 89th and after were credited with the same time.
6 inches of snow in Kielder
SS24 Wauchope East has at least 20 cars stuck in the stage because the
can't get any grip to get up a hill. Following crews have been diverted
and again been given the same time.
1 Kankunen 4hr 17m 03s
2 Eriksson 4hr 19m 47s
3 Wilson 4hr 21m 49s
4 Delacour 4hr 21m 56s
5 Auriol 4hr 23m 06s
6 Vatanen 4hr 23m 17s
7 Burns 4hr 27m 42s
8 Head 4hr 33m 47s
9 Schwarz 4hr 37m 37s
10 Jonsson 4hr 41m 39s
11 A McRae 4hr 42m 51s stuck in logs lost 12 mins
12 Evans 4hr 47m 23s
Mike
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1900.73 | | WARNUT::ALLEN | It works better if you screw it in.. | Wed Nov 24 1993 09:58 | 5 |
| Lots of arguments this morning, crews refusing to start because of the
conditions being threatened with disqualification! 40 minute delay in start
time, I'll post last nights final standings soon.
Mike
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1900.74 | | WARNUT::ALLEN | It works better if you screw it in.. | Wed Nov 24 1993 10:44 | 23 |
| Last nights results
1. Kankunen 5hr 16m 04s
2. Eriksson 5hr 17m 25s
3. Wilson 5hr 18m 20s
4. Delacour 5hr 19m 41s
5. Vatanen 5hr 21m 01s
6. Auriol 5hr 21m 12s
7. Burns 5hr 29m 02s
8. Schwarz 5hr 37m 37s
9. Jonsson 5hr 43m 26s
10 A McRae 5hr 44m 29s
11 Evans 5hr 49m 38s
12 Llewellin 6hr 02m 15s Vauxhall Astra
13 Jones 6hr 05m 69s Mitsubishi VR4
14 Triner 6hr 06m 49s in a SKODA !!!!!!
Kankunen lost several minutes with 2 punctures which has closed things up again,
it is still very much wide open, especially because of the conditions.
I'll try and get some more news at lunchtime.
Mike
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1900.75 | | WARNUT::ALLEN | It works better if you screw it in.. | Wed Nov 24 1993 12:13 | 13 |
| Still the same top 5. Kankunen is now 1m 30s ahead of Eriksson with Malcolm
Wilson a further 1m 30s back. Dalby is yet to come.
The problem at the beginning of the day appears to be that the organisers wanted
to change the route because of the conditions and lop 7 miles off the 1st stage.
Whilst this would have worked a few years ago we now have PACE NOTES and these
would have become somewhat superfluous! Needless to say Kankunen objected and a
40 minute delay ensued.
Of course I could be wrong and we will have to wait for next weeks Autosport to
find out what really happened!
Mike_who_is_trying_his_best_to_keep_you_updated
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1900.76 | | WARNUT::ALLEN | It works better if you screw it in.. | Wed Nov 24 1993 19:10 | 19 |
| With 1 stage to go the positions are basically as previously published
except that 22yr old Robbie Head has retired, stuck in a stage.
On the way home I heard that Kankunen had been recorded doing 130mph in
Dalby. Now I have driven the Dalby stage and I can tell you that 60-70
mph is real scary, 130 is completely unimaginable. This remember is not
tarmac, it's shale, it's icy, it's covered in snow.... The man is
totally insane.
Judging from the reports on BBC's Ceefax, everyone is having real
problems staying on the road.
I'll try and give the final positions later tonight, but you may have
to wait because I'm with a customer all day tomorrow, I have to earn
some money sometime!
Mike
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1900.77 | | LEMAN::CHEVAUX | Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150 | Thu Nov 25 1993 07:51 | 10 |
| RAC Rally brief results
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1. KKK
2. Eriksson
3. Wilson
4. Delecour
5. Vatanen
6. Auriol
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1900.78 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | Synchromesh gearboxes are for wimps | Sat Nov 27 1993 02:43 | 5 |
| Thanks for the updates Mike and Patrick. I can concur that the speeds
that the top drivers reach can be very outrageous. Sometimes I'm glad
I've taken up a slower sport now....
Dave
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1900.79 | Drool Drool | YUPPY::MILLARB | | Mon Nov 29 1993 09:21 | 13 |
| Hi
Warning ... Extremely creepy name dropping exrercise follows....
Toyota have just sent me two World Rally Championship Badges for my
"Carlos Sainz" Limited edition Celica GT4 Turbo. Which is black looks
gorgeous and goes like brown stuff off a blanket.
Have a nice day.
Bruce
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1900.80 | | NEWOA::FIDO_T | Conation is the key | Mon Nov 29 1993 11:40 | 4 |
| >and goes like brown stuff off a blanket.
I think you mean shovel !
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1900.81 | | YUPPY::MILLARB | | Tue Nov 30 1993 16:29 | 7 |
| re' Last.
There are no shovels in my bed.
Come to think about there is no brown stuff in either. :*)
Bruce
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